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worn falcon
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Pepejands

tawdry hamlet
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But hey, this at least shows imo why philly was good in early season and bad now

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Ball

ebon aurora
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close map 1

tawdry hamlet
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Ever since ball became the main apac meta philly has gotten worse and worse

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So it makes sense now catplobbers

humble yarrow
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@ebon aurora is that you in your pfp?

ebon aurora
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yeah, why?

humble yarrow
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Neck beard

upper niche
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The idea that teams get 'worse' is kinda amusing.

humble yarrow
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Dallas did it

mortal abyss
tawdry hamlet
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I said a week ago that Mano probably doesn't have a good ball and now it is all making sense

mortal abyss
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Nah

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Manos ball is good

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Philly just

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Can’t play ball comps on a team level

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Partly due to their tracer/sombra situation

tawdry hamlet
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Nyxl and Valiant have been running ball comps all season catplobbers so the losses and dropped map make more sense to me at least

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Idk, jjonak was getting picked first every fight by eqo

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And then philly still would fall apart

mortal abyss
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Map 1 eqo was fucking ye

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But like

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Against shanghai

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Their dps got completely outclassed

tawdry hamlet
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Also I can't believe ivy went from top 5 to retired without even playing more than a map 😭

mortal abyss
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😦

tawdry hamlet
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Also yeah eqo can run wild against teams like Chengdu and new York without as much punishment because those teams make mistakes but the Shanghai peel is just the easy shutdown because on new York eqo is evenly matched with flora + mistakes

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Against Shanghai fleta outclasses and there are way less mistakes

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So the wombo combo just shuts them down

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Like all 3 dps they played were just stomped into the ground 😭

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On top of that iziyaki can actually defend himself jjonak just accepts the death lmao

forest raven
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Izayaki is a freak

tawdry hamlet
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I know I had him the number 2 flex support all last season even tho people usually put violet alarm above them

humble yarrow
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Doha is good but leave is better

balmy wolf
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ggs dallas L

tawdry hamlet
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I knew leave was good watching Chengdu last year

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He just had nobody around him

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He had Elsa ameng baconjack yveltal and Molly

balmy wolf
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doha is boomed

tawdry hamlet
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Only half his team was any good :OmegaLUL:

dreamy cave
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CDH10k LEAVE IS FUCKING

forest raven
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Pure

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Domination

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Leave suprCOOL

balmy wolf
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god get dallas out of there

tawdry hamlet
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Mfw Chengdu's wacky comps actually become meta

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And they go brrrr

humble yarrow
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Breaking news: mmonk and leave take out the entire dallas fuel

tawdry hamlet
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We need to build a bench team and find a billionaire to buy a spot in the league for them and then see how they do

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Too many good benched talents 😭

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The amount of benched flex support talent is crazy

humble yarrow
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Pine, Poko, Ans, and many more

tawdry hamlet
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Molly, 1987, aztac, twilight, coldest

humble yarrow
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Twilight plays

tawdry hamlet
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Twilight not including recently

worldly flax
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twilight is insane

tawdry hamlet
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When they decided to Perma bench fdgod

worldly flax
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pine has visa issues, I think?

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not sure though

tawdry hamlet
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Yes

humble yarrow
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So does poko

keen abyss
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do you need to update battlenet or something to get the tokens

keen abyss
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i haven't gotten any in the past few hours

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it says connected, i have the volume on

tawdry hamlet
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Also tons of benched dps talent

humble yarrow
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Are you tabbed out?

keen abyss
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does that matter

humble yarrow
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Yes

worldly flax
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lol

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you gotta actually watch...or let them think you're watching SombraGiggle

keen abyss
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do you just have to be on the browser or on the tab

dreamy cave
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it matters when ur not getting the coins bro

humble yarrow
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On the tab

tawdry hamlet
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Checkmate, jimmy, tarocookie, develop, whoru, ivy, shockwave, seominsoo, sbb the list goes on

humble yarrow
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Ivy

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Is gone

worldly flax
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either let it play on a second monitor or half of your monitor

humble yarrow
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He retired

tawdry hamlet
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I know

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But that was this morning so my point he didn't ever get used still stands

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😭

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Chengdu moment

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Lmaoo

humble yarrow
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Lmao

forest raven
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SEAAAAAAAAAA

balmy wolf
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wait what

forest raven
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NIIIIIIIIIIIINE

balmy wolf
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how

humble yarrow
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Phat

worldly flax
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c9 SymmetraGiggle

humble yarrow
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C9

tawdry hamlet
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Lmao

forest raven
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DOMINATING SO HARD THEY GET BACK CAPPED OMEGALUL

worldly flax
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oh wait

humble yarrow
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Bro that's like bottom 500

worldly flax
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it's a backcap

humble yarrow
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500

unreal raven
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Greatest c9

tawdry hamlet
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If owl wasn't losing money every year they could have so many teams with the amount of talent in owl that's just on the bench

humble yarrow
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They should have a join feature

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So people get like more tokens the higher the subscription

dreamy cave
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OBLITERATED

tawdry hamlet
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Also I think that echo being so relevant made the flex dps that were good last year but not good on echo just look so bad this year

humble yarrow
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Oviserated

tawdry hamlet
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Bruh

humble yarrow
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Hanging

tawdry hamlet
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This whole thing is scuffed as fuck lmaoo

mortal abyss
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Dallas boomed

humble yarrow
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Hanbin

worldly flax
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chat's spamming c9 lmao

tawdry hamlet
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Double c9 moment

dreamy cave
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WELCOME TO THE CHENGDU ZONE

humble yarrow
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Most scuffed map in history

green dust
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DUDE BACK TO BACK C9'D

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LETS GO

tawdry hamlet
humble yarrow
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I hope they draw for the vine

tawdry hamlet
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I wish I had some form of talent or money to try and scout my own roster, like imagine being a contenders manager or coach, you can offer players a spot monkaS

worldly flax
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that time bank

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damn

shadow ridge
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its winnable for dallas

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gg close one

mortal abyss
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Lolll

humble yarrow
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B9

tawdry hamlet
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Fantasy rosters because some players will never touch another map are fun. Like how else am I supposed to think about sbb playing if he never plays lmao

humble yarrow
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Come on else

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Why did you have to reture

tawdry hamlet
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Genuinely there's literally 4 games for every team besides the top ones at this rate, like that is a rip

humble yarrow
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Retire

forest raven
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HE SMILED

tawdry hamlet
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Like any big changes are done now with us being in the final month soon 😭

forest raven
humble yarrow
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Chengdu would not be here if they where runny elsa

tawdry hamlet
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I mean tbf nobody had any faith in lateyoung lmao

worldly flax
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what happened to elsa?

humble yarrow
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Retire

worldly flax
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oh TracerSalute thanks

dreamy cave
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rip to pine actually getting no play time

humble yarrow
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Late young is so much better than Elsa has ever been

tawdry hamlet
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Also I sense 1987 or someone in chengdu will be demoted to chaser or dropped soon

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To save money now that they've gone this far and mmonk has solidified his starting spot for sure and Nisha hasn't played in forever it'd be a waste to keep a big roster since your starting six are mostly set in stone besides Jinmu at this point

humble yarrow
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Swap 1987 for jecse

worldly flax
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soe vs the wind again lmao

humble yarrow
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Cute outfit tho

worldly flax
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aye PogChimp y'all got your dva skins yet?

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah I got it first day

humble yarrow
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I got mine during the encore

tawdry hamlet
worldly flax
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PogChimp nice

humble yarrow
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I was on vacation until the knockouts

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Lol

worldly flax
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rip tokens

humble yarrow
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Yea

forest raven
humble yarrow
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I got a good eco rn

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I'm at like 350

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And I've bought 2 legendary skins

wicked pendant
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Wait holy crap

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I fell asleep

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Is the stream STILL going?

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What happened?

humble yarrow
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Yes

tawdry hamlet
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I'm at 560 and I've bought every monthly skin and a Shanghai skin

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And roadhog and echo

humble yarrow
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I don't watch the apac games tho

tawdry hamlet
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All free from owl streams lmao

humble yarrow
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I'm not up that early

dreamy cave
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free tick

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EZ

wicked pendant
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So obviously if I'm watching Dallas-Chengdu right now, then Dallas beat Reign and Shanghai beat Chengdu, but what were the scores?

tawdry hamlet
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Last two were both map 5

wicked pendant
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Wild

tawdry hamlet
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But yeah

dreamy cave
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SO BAD

tawdry hamlet
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I hate fans of top teams when they win something lmao, their only comeback is my team (best in the league) beat your team that everyone predicted would lose anyway stay malding bro

dreamy cave
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wait noo

tawdry hamlet
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Like the comeback of haha better team did the expected result is just hella boring

humble yarrow
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I'm not waking up at 4am to watch apac games lmao

mortal abyss
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Hanbin is carrying

humble yarrow
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I watch like the last hour at like 8

tawdry hamlet
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Mmonk moment

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Dallas need to force a genji meta lmaoo

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Then ez dubs

humble yarrow
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Ye

dreamy cave
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if thats the case, wouldnt they lose to better genji?

tawdry hamlet
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Sparkle beats fleta and whoru genji

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The fact he finds value in Sombra brig is so wild

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Lmao

dreamy cave
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in apac yeah i guess he is best genji

tawdry hamlet
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Hanbin and fury are the dva kings

dreamy cave
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space? void?

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old poko

humble yarrow
tawdry hamlet
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Space overrated catplobbers But void and Choi yeah

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Jfc

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Ball is such a dumb hero lmao

humble yarrow
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Molfig is best dva

ebon aurora
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good hold

tawdry hamlet
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He literally almost turned a whole fight with ball and mines

humble yarrow
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Hi neck beard

tawdry hamlet
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At least Dallas can win on their map

fast tusk
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oh wow, dallas are losing to chengdu

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what a surprise

tawdry hamlet
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Well not their map but the na map lmao

humble yarrow
fast tusk
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obviously not

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why would i

dreamy cave
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okay so hunters lose on dallas map pick but just win it in their map pick to finish it out

humble yarrow
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Maybe dallas have learned to beat hunters

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Sparkle

tawdry hamlet
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If Chengdu loses this series it's easily Shanghai in 4

humble yarrow
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Let's goo bug man

wicked pendant
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Genji Great Value

ebon aurora
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why did Dallas not run Ana before with the genji

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it's clearly working now

tawdry hamlet
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Sparkle genji is still number 1 praydge

humble yarrow
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Hi neck beard

tawdry hamlet
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Summer showdown genji returning praydge

ebon aurora
humble yarrow
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Why not??

ebon aurora
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I don't like it?

humble yarrow
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I think neck beards are funny lmao

ebon aurora
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you might, I don't like it

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so stop mocking me for it pls

humble yarrow
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Then shave it

ebon aurora
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dude

wicked pendant
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Looking like a COMP DIFF

ebon aurora
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seriously

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stop

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you're mocking my appearance

humble yarrow
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Not really

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But ok

tawdry hamlet
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So are they allowed to cuss now on stream or what it seems like they just gave up on stopping themselves

dreamy cave
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not really?

ebon aurora
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do you want me to get mods involved?

humble yarrow
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Nah

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I'm ok

ebon aurora
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stop then

wicked pendant
humble yarrow
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I did

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I said it twice

tawdry hamlet
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He said damn and shit earlier iirc ded

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He is going off the rails with wild language aPES3_GeOmegaLul

wicked pendant
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Eh, if a PG-13 movie can curse several times, I think they'll be fine.

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Wow how did that Lucio live

dreamy cave
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i just wanna hear the big F word

humble yarrow
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There is always a chance

tawdry hamlet
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Na hopium πŸ˜†

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Lmaooooo

dreamy cave
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BOOSTIOOOOO

wicked pendant
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BOOOSTIOOOOO

tawdry hamlet
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Last fight they miss the nano

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That's fucking depressing

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They miss it on a bitched nano

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Lmao

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God

wicked pendant
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APAC-ONLY FINALS

unreal raven
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Gg

forest raven
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APAC SUPREMACY

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APAC SUPREMACY

small breach
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ball so strong

wicked pendant
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RECOGNIZE BALL, NA

polar dirge
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nano lucio

shadow ridge
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boostiooooo

wicked pendant
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RECOGNIZE HIM

unreal raven
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That nano was disappointed

polar dirge
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XD!

forest raven
fast tusk
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oh

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it ended

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XDDDD

polar dirge
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did pine get any playtime

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at all

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or is he not allowed to

small breach
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i dont think pine is in na yet?

dreamy cave
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i wish bro i wish

small breach
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unless thats recent

tawdry hamlet
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No none of the hitscans really did

polar dirge
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no visa

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im guessing

tawdry hamlet
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Besides tracer

polar dirge
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unlucky

tawdry hamlet
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And cree on leave

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Well backwards

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Leave on cree

wicked pendant
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Fielder and Jecse must be kicking themselves for that boostio

polar dirge
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so chengdu vs shanghai rematch

balmy wolf
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Bye Bye Dallas

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Bye Bye NA

wicked pendant
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Yveltal has had a hell of a day today

dreamy cave
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pov the boostio kills your own team

humble yarrow
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My friend had that ad his pfp for a long time

young fractalBOT
sullen berry
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it's an emoji from yours truly

wicked pendant
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Man

sullen berry
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my day has been made

forest raven
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NA took one map against APAC this tournament

dreamy cave
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u made that?

wicked pendant
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These Summer Showdown scorelines really telling a story here

sullen berry
# dreamy cave u made that?

I bet someone they couldn't compress it down to a readable animoji and because they actually fucking did it I have nitro now

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animoji for a server boost was totally worth it

dreamy cave
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ahh

wicked pendant
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Actual APAC supremacy, making Dallas Fuel look like they have a serious case of Big Fish, Small Pond

earnest leaf
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it's not apac supremacy

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it's shanghai supremacy kekw1

dreamy cave
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them being tired didnt really help much either.

dreamy cave
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ima nut. if hunters win the finals.

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ima swap to a hunters fan

green dust
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Anyone elses drops option disappear from the stream? LOL

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The "connected" just went poof

earnest leaf
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chengdu finally doing well for once doesn't mean all of apac

forest raven
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Dallas and Atlanta doing well doesn't mean all of NA

earnest leaf
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remember they only beat florida last time in a stage

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and got shit on by dallas/shd

wicked pendant
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You can't say they got lucky once when Chengdu 3-1'd Dallas yesterday in an absolute stomp, and 3-0'd them today, while they went to a very competitive 3-2 with the other APAC team that 3-0'd the other NA team

earnest leaf
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I never said chengdu got lucky

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I said they finally did well for once

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like I said before

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Apac is pretty much shd and their little kids

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with one other team being decent every stage

wicked pendant
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Custa out here lookin' like graphing paper

mortal abyss
ivory mason
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Atleast after last tournament ppl can't make the excuse of "well they played 2 back to back matches"

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Because Shanghai did and won back to back

tawdry hamlet
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Ok shock, now it's time to reveal a new signing, and win the whole thing TE_Copium

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Seriously though, shock actually have run ball before, so they could do this in some shocking way

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Maybe

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😭

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And Nero has a decent pharah

earnest leaf
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shock needs to do something

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Look at all the teams that go to hawaii

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Want to know what they all do 99% of the time?

forest raven
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Have the same lineup

earnest leaf
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RUN THE SAME LINEUP 24/7

sullen berry
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Pixie pogging

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same energy as the rest of Shanghai and Chengdu fans after today's matches

wicked pendant
earnest leaf
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It's just sad

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because shock shouldn't be this bad

tawdry hamlet
# earnest leaf RUN THE SAME LINEUP 24/7

Justice and shock are the only ones I have hope for rn. Stand1 can't run ball, philly sucks ass, hz can't beat new York who can't beat Shanghai or Chengdu. Dpei is glads coach, Houston is rush one trick

earnest leaf
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Imagine if shock/dallas were both peak of na trading blows

tawdry hamlet
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Dallas is just existing

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Florida has no main tank

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There's no hope for so many teams 😭

sullen berry
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Dallas the hover parent teaching his kids a lesson

tawdry hamlet
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Like I genuinely believe Florida's season is dead now

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Like what the hell

sullen berry
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after those teams

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who else is really in contention in the West

tawdry hamlet
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I wouldn't even put Toronto or Boston in there

sullen berry
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oh right BAWSTON

hollow bough
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It felt like a pretty big disadvantage for Hawaii

earnest leaf
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The only teams in NA that I would trust to make a run for the finals atm is shock/fuel

hollow bough
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i mean

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for the West

sullen berry
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just watch paris and boston shift the outcomes

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maybe paris just might be a fluke

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and boston couldn't make it work with Punk in the end

hollow bough
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they lost a day from travel so they had to deal with jetlag, had early morning content shoots and had to compete with no practice

sullen berry
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so they run GBS

tawdry hamlet
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Ok but guys we shit on dpei for throwing last series BUT he predicted pharah meta before all of them ablobthinkingeyes

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Lmaoo

sullen berry
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given a week in quarantine

hollow bough
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i dont know what happened

earnest leaf
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two weeks, on laptops, given shit food

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but that shock was op

sullen berry
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that's not much better being stuck for days unable to leave your room in a new country

earnest leaf
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Still was an extreme disadvantage

hollow bough
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I mean yeah but

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Apples and oranges

earnest leaf
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oh and they had to throw together mashup teams to scrim with

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and scrim t2 korean teams

hollow bough
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A disadvantage is still a disadvantage

sullen berry
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they also set the gold standard for any team that was going to perform to expectation originally in season 3

hollow bough
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Im not talking about the past

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Im talking about right now

sullen berry
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with homestand to homestand travel, do you think that excuse flies if everyone had to travel though?

balmy wolf
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Chengdu Hunters are just a shit fluke team that abuses ball and lack of preparation. Dallas will win the OWL that’s all that matters

hollow bough
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Thats not necessarily true

earnest leaf
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wait lemme find the copypasta

tawdry hamlet
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Dallas is a team that literally cannot adapt to ball after being rekt by it last time

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Chengdu has been using ball for two years

earnest leaf
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APAC teams are garbage and they are cheating and if you are okay with that you are the reason it’s happening. It’s corruption and it’s popular for the league to hate on the Fuel and the Reign and give them disadvantages. But despite all the corruption and cheating Dallas Fuel will prevail from the losers bracket. And beat everyone including Shanghai in the final. Dallas Fuel will be the most hated and misunderstood heroes of esports. No of all time.

hollow bough
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lol

shadow ridge
tawdry hamlet
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It doesn't matter if the meta shifted towards Chengdu Dallas got comp diffed hard lmao

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If Dallas can't win the mirror how is Chengdu a fluke

balmy wolf
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If you are happy Dallas loss today then you support communism and corruption

shadow ridge
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they got shat on by a ball even with a sombra

earnest leaf
shadow ridge
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suddenly i am a commie

hollow bough
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Josh is upet

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upset

tawdry hamlet
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!jumbo TE_KKona

young fractalBOT
tawdry hamlet
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Oh my god that resolution

hollow bough
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lol

sullen berry
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ChengduHunters Chengdu Hunters is not owl OWL level, as fanboy-triggering BandrewHyperCringe as that sounds OMEGALUL People loved them for their underdog streak stonks, RUI's coaching 02ShrugπŸ“£ and their wacky brand cdhPog, but expecting them to get to Summer Showdown πŸ–οΈ is very unrealistic cdhCry. They still have to actually win something first wewantthetrophy

forest raven
sullen berry
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damn

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banger weibo

tawdry hamlet
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Anyway, I want a benched team who's a benched main tank

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Besides super

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😭

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Fusions lmaoo

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I wanna see fusions play a map pls lmaoo

hollow bough
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Im not happy with dallas' performance but it was a good series. I believe it was more of an uphill battle for the western teams to fight this tournament because of fight delays and not being able to practice before competing

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regardless it was fun to watch

willow tartan
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yeah it was a comp diff coming into it

hollow bough
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dallas needs to learn ball

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for sure

willow tartan
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the problem with that is

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no one else in na plays ball so who do you scrim with

earnest leaf
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no one

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah Danny said while the lack of scrim time sucks they didn't have anyone to scrim with nobody played ball and everyone was in break

hollow bough
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Guess you're just gonna have to pull up shanghai vods and practice by yourself

tawdry hamlet
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They'd have to scrim with american tornado or some shit lmao

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Tbh scrimming with a Korean team could've helped a lot tho but I doubt it's feasible or enough

willow tartan
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so anyway

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dragons 4-0 right guys???

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😎

forest raven
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My brain says 4-2 dragons

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My heart says 4-3 Chengdu

tawdry hamlet
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Chengdu can take a map or 2

willow tartan
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it probs gonna be 4-1

hollow bough
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Dallas support line was kind of lacking this time around as well, Jecse isn't the greatest at brig and his lucio beats got cancelled a lot

tawdry hamlet
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it's weird because I feel like if Shanghai kept diem and kept trying to use him they'd be far worse than they are because committing to lip completely made them way better than swapping back and forth when ashe isn't good enough to one trick in owl anymore

forest raven
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All I'm saying is how could you not support Chengdu with this guy on the team

willow tartan
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having a 6 mean team thats flexible is way better

tawdry hamlet
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Like notice the second they committed to a consistent roster they could have Sombra or ashe or widow or tracer or mcree in with fleta rather than just ashe widow cree and it allows them to find the meta faster I think

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Because they realized with leave we can adapt when we need to and just play Sombra tracer everywhere else

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Lip

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Not leave

willow tartan
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i mean diem really only came in when they hard knew they had to commit to the hitscan

tawdry hamlet
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Those early Gibraltar maps with diem were kind of rough for him Lowkey, he hit shots but he didn't look nearly like I remember. But fate had no synergy at all in those games

willow tartan
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since both teams are eastern can they be hosted at a better time for us? thx.

tawdry hamlet
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And pre season when he got shit on by mykayleee lmao that was a rip for diem

willow tartan
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mmhm

tawdry hamlet
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This off season is going to be so bad ablobcry

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There's going to be so many retirements

forest raven
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I am now a Yveltal stan

willow tartan
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yveltal is gamer

forest raven
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Yveltal is beautiful

willow tartan
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have NA fans OD'd on copium yet?

feral zodiac
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What's happening in summer showdown now

willow tartan
#

Shanghai vs Chengdu grand finals

feral zodiac
#

Can we get an L for the west

forest raven
#

NA won 1 map against APAC teams this tournament

feral zodiac
#

Does NA legit just

#

Not understand ball at all

willow tartan
#

the one map that they did won was dallas against chengdu

#

and that was on volskaya i think?

forest raven
#

Lijiang

willow tartan
#

no

#

yeah

#

the first one

feral zodiac
#

Would you say shock can do well against ball

#

Or is it just the weakness of every na team

willow tartan
#

the lijang one was pretty close right?

forest raven
#

Shock can't beat Atlanta or Houston lole

willow tartan
#

i rem it went to map 3 99-99

sullen berry
#

55 OWL Tokens

#

you're joking this was all from today

willow tartan
#

tbh i think 50 tokens is the upper limit

sullen berry
#

tokens went up from 241 to 296

willow tartan
#

i notice i never get more than 50

sullen berry
#

I've never refreshed a YT uploads page in my life

#

but I guess I gotta do it today

#

strange to think Atlanta never faced chengdu with the way the bracket was set up

#

would they have stood a change against them instead of Dallas?

willow tartan
#

A solid "maybe"

#

since they can run different comps

earnest leaf
#

only team in na that could match the apac ball comps imo is shock

#

but that's if shock stops throwing

sullen berry
#

memeing on your own team lol, this never ends well

#

Clownbin?

#

that's what I'd start to call choihyobin, not hanbin

willow tartan
#

actually you're right

#

smurf can ball

earnest leaf
#

super can play ball too

#

just not very well

#

The few times he's ran it, uh

#

was not too hot

sullen berry
#

can you really point at chb for looking mediocre at any point this season, though

willow tartan
#

yes

sullen berry
#

I haven't watched any shock matches long enough to notice

willow tartan
#

the shock has been mediocre this season

tired zodiac
#

πŸ₯²

earnest leaf
#

they've been top 5 but just can't get to hawaii

#

and does silly things too often

tired zodiac
#

too inconsistent ill admit that

willow tartan
#

maybe this means that

#

teams wont get fucked over by dallas during knockouts anymore?

mortal abyss
#

just play twilight fdgod how hard can it be

willow tartan
#

theyve been getting a lot of map 5's lately

tired zodiac
#

too many for my taste

#

they should be dominating

willow tartan
#

NA freed from dallas?

earnest leaf
#

Well

#

shock's first match is vs dallas

#

so that will tell us a bit

willow tartan
#

yes

#

shock can slay the tyrant

earnest leaf
#

but I mean shock beat them 3-1 last time and lost to reign in knockouts

willow tartan
#

free all of america

tired zodiac
#

amen

#

ok but crustys been v weird this season

willow tartan
#

he's going through withdrawal

tired zodiac
#

like the comps he puts them on and the players he puts on maps are just messed up

forest raven
#

Shock needs a consistent lineup

tired zodiac
#

like they didnt put ans on junkertown

forest raven
#

Constantly subbing out players doesn't work when you no longer have the goats of each role

willow tartan
#

^

tired zodiac
#

true

forest raven
#

super/choi/ans/glister/fdgod/twilight

tired zodiac
#

nero?

willow tartan
#

yes why dont they run fdgod twilight

#

i dont want fdgod wasting on the bench :(

#

viol2t lucio zzz

tired zodiac
#

yea ok that ws dumb asf

#

they couldve just put fdgod

forest raven
#

I think in a meta like this nero should be in

forest raven
#

Ans played a good sombra last year

willow tartan
#

glister doesnt have a deep enough hero pool i thought?

forest raven
#

Glister's a huge flex player

mortal abyss
#

i think the only roles they should be subbing is ans for nero and maybe super for smurf but idk

tired zodiac
#

YES

willow tartan
#

when he was on hz i didnt see him play too much

forest raven
#

He plays hard hitscan, tracer, doom, etc.

#

All that shit

mortal abyss
#

glister is a hyperflex

willow tartan
#

but i mean that was also because architet existed

forest raven
#

Like, if tracer needs to be played

#

And she basically always does

#

Glister needs to be in

willow tartan
#

wait

#

which one is the hangzhou one

mortal abyss
#

do you mean seominsoo?

forest raven
#

Glister was never on Spark

mortal abyss
#

glister wasnt on spark

willow tartan
#

yeah who the fuck on shock was on hz

tired zodiac
#

neor

#

nero

forest raven
#

Nero was on Charge

severe tusk
tired zodiac
#

oh wait ye a

willow tartan
#

no

forest raven
#

You're goin crazy mate

willow tartan
#

idk man forget it all i know was architect was benching someone

#

im losing my brain

forest raven
#

GodsB

worldly flax
#

ta1yo NotLikeSoldier

sullen berry
# severe tusk what

some random decides to respond to sparkle saying sorry by telling him he's now supporting the shock - a terrible copypasta

#

poorly timed tweets

willow tartan
#

why is it poorly timed?

sullen berry
#

posted in bad taste, like most of twitter

#

what I was replying to

willow tartan
#

yeah but why was it poorly timed

#

seems timed fine to me

#

doing it when they lose

sullen berry
forest raven
#

Yes

sullen berry
#

me trying hard to pretend anyone's Twitter opinion should matter when you're down bad

tired zodiac
#

how did chengdu loose

#

did they hard throw

#

i didnt watch

sullen berry
#

the winner's match?

willow tartan
#

they got diffed on map 5

forest raven
#

Shanghai played pharah on downtown and Chengdu tried to play echo

#

And then Shanghai boomed them with rush on meka base and Chengdu ran real 2019 Chengdu shit

#

Orisa/dva with zen/brig

willow tartan
#

the second chengdu had to play into the rush they lost

willow tartan
#

now this is a weird development though

tired zodiac
severe tusk
#

but like, thought there was a reason i wasn't catching why it was posted here

forest raven
#

Nope

#

Or Jinmu

tired zodiac
#

🀑

willow tartan
#

the dive comp may be the best comp currently, but its also the only composition that chengdu can really match the dragons on

#

so maybe shanghai will change entirely and play brawl maps

sullen berry
forest raven
#

I think they stayed on echo the entire time on downtown?

#

idr

sullen berry
#

seems like it but memory is too dazed

#

woke up at 2pm

earnest leaf
#

Chengdu turbo threw busan

sullen berry
#

!jumbo cdhPog

young fractalBOT
willow tartan
#

the compositions played today and tomorrow can be entirely dif

tired zodiac
#

also is sparkles doom better than his genji

willow tartan
#

uh

#

good question

mortal abyss
#

hard to say

forest raven
#

There's less competition on doom

mortal abyss
#

mainly because he doesnt play doom as much

tired zodiac
#

wasnt he once the legendary genji player on paris

mortal abyss
#

yeah

#

his genji is the best in the league but his doom might be aswell

#

sooo

tired zodiac
#

zzz

willow tartan
#

sparkle best genji in the league?

tawdry hamlet
#

oh yeah apply said on stream London was choosing between him blase hybrid and aspire and they chose hybrid and blase 3Dlol

#

they could have had aspire

forest raven
#

Cloud9

#

L

tawdry hamlet
#

hence why halo had a wrong prediction of apply to spitfire in off season

tired zodiac
#

asprire ws a surprise

sullen berry
#

voting him in for NA All stars

tawdry hamlet
#

it is odd actually, because on paper toronto have the pieces to be top 5 na but they just aren't able to do it lmao

tired zodiac
#

bad coaching?

tawdry hamlet
#

basically if everyone on this team played like they did last season they probably would be top 5

#

s3 lastro s3 sado were way better Salutations

sullen berry
#

for whatever reason, Na1st's performance was going to be bad

#

but you were still disappointed they didn't manage to shape him into something bigger

#

KDG / Yang1 & HoChiLee should be really really good

#

Aztac should return to Uprising Academy and see if Arachne's coaching will work out

balmy wolf
#

Saw the results now Atlanta lost 😭

forest raven
#

Good

balmy wolf
#

Don't say good

forest raven
#

I think I will PeepoGlad

balmy wolf
#

😭

forest raven
#

NA won one map against APAC this tournament

balmy wolf
#

My hopes for Atlanta rip

forest raven
#

I did kinda want Atlanta to beat Dallas just so Leave could pound Pelican into the dirt

balmy wolf
#

Hmm

tacit skiff
#

apac v apac huh? interesting

tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
#

I don't understand how can they be so bad

forest raven
#

Atlanta?

balmy wolf
#

Yea

forest raven
#

Well first they can only play rein and orisa comps because gator can't play ball or monkey

sullen berry
#

hawk will die first whenever a teamfight doesn't go their way

tawdry hamlet
#

secondly they don't have any experience playing against a ball comp, third mechanically shanghai is just better

sullen berry
#

if they have to give up anybody in a winnable teamfight it's going to be either masaa or a dps slot

tawdry hamlet
#

considering this is nearly the same roster they fielded last year they are doing really well though

#

all that changed is sharp for kai

#

and pelican

sullen berry
#

yeah that's the point

#

pelican diff

#

is it a regular season thing or are they leaning into it to just suddenly let him win the match

#

RNGesus with Pelican carry is hard to judge, because his mechanics are as off the chart as your sp9rk1e and Leave in the right 1v1 matchup

tawdry hamlet
#

also charge need to get a new coach or some shit because their tempo and timings are non existent, they played against new york with rein hiding and waiting for new york to engage, like wtf happened to them they literally look like a t2 team 3Dlol

#

they just have no timing or synergy and then easy mistakes

#

really thought they would be better this year

#

like not a lot better because downgrades but they looked at least a little promising

sullen berry
#

the first hurdle with the org in the past 3 years was a language barrier (lol)

#

now it's just being able to agree on how to play the game

tawdry hamlet
#

the fact they genuinely thought getting neptuno a visa and playing him over chara would be worth their time is the first red flag lmao

sullen berry
#

well I was hoping there was something there in Mandu's signing none of us could see

#

nah, his comms are just as bad as the rest of the team who aren't making the right calls

tawdry hamlet
#

kariv sucks and their tempo sucks

feral zodiac
#

Aztac being wasted :(

tawdry hamlet
#

and their hitscan sucks

#

eileen has a better cree than mykaylee and a better tracer

sullen berry
#

the hanamura frame perfect nade

willow tartan
#

i think that was luck bro

feral zodiac
#

That was 90% luck

forest raven
#

10% skill

willow tartan
#

i aint timing that shit

forest raven
#

15% concentrated power of will

feral zodiac
#

50% pain

willow tartan
#

void 5 man bomb on rialto was 100% skill

tawdry hamlet
#

eileen is a better hitscan than mykaylee and choisehwan is somehow a better flex than eileen

willow tartan
#

triple remech on dorado?

#

skill.

feral zodiac
#

Lol

tawdry hamlet
#

idk if eileen is overrated but he's like really good lmao

feral zodiac
#

Is most of charge korean?

sullen berry
willow tartan
#

all of the charge is korean i thought

sullen berry
#

you think ana's left click could bust down a barrier?

tawdry hamlet
#

charge literally only have chr0ng Choisehwan and Eileen to build around, just ditch the rest and pick up new people

sullen berry
#

pick up the rest of talon

willow tartan
#

yes pls

tawdry hamlet
#

sign pineapple and 800 3Dlol

willow tartan
#

pick up talon

sullen berry
#

sign dank

tawdry hamlet
#

sign proper πŸ™

sullen berry
#

sign @devout path

tawdry hamlet
#

think adam will ever get an opportunity to go to owl

sullen berry
#

easiest money of her life playing in OWL

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean I doubt it

feral zodiac
#

Drop everyone, send eileen cr0ng and choisewhan to a decent team, pick up the entire runaway roster

tawdry hamlet
#

but he is playing his best overwatch yet rn

forest raven
#

Adam peepoSad

feral zodiac
#

Adam probably would have played 3 games at the most

forest raven
#

Will forever despise Valiant for fucking over an AU player

feral zodiac
#

Haven't 90% of AU players gotten fucked over

forest raven
#

I mean yeah lol

willow tartan
#

Getting fucked over is part of their culture.

forest raven
sullen berry
#

meanwhile, Colourhex

forest raven
#

Kiwi OMEGALUL

sullen berry
#

his contract game is looking strong JJonakstrong

willow tartan
#

too good

sullen berry
#

even if he isn't relegated to content creator like Fusions for their own YT channel

#

this is him living his best life

#

setting a passive example of how being ranked 1 in NA Comp will net you x number of years in the Overwatch League

#

and they're not all toxic POS

willow tartan
#

do you think hex boy scrims?

sullen berry
#

that's about as much value as you can get from him

willow tartan
#

i guess he just helps the other guys on the team

sullen berry
#

put this guy in front of Microsoft and see if they can push him into the London Spitfire roster with his homeboy Blase

willow tartan
#

uprising is owned by microsoft?

sullen berry
#

what

tacit skiff
#

man Chengdu almost reverse swept the Dragons

#

guess that shows the Dragons aren't unbeatable

#

CHENGDU IS TRENDING ON TWITTER

willow tartan
#

dragons never get reverse swept idk wym bro πŸ’ͺ

tawdry hamlet
#

I really hope titans do it right and go for contenders pick ups instead of aging veterans pls

#

next season

#

I hate the org but man this is one of the few rosters that is free to get new talent

#

since their talent sucks ass

feral zodiac
willow tartan
#

seoul reverse swept them when?

feral zodiac
#

No

#

As in seoul always get reverse swept by shanghai

#

It is always either 3-0 to one of them or 3-2 to shanghai

#

There is no inbetween

willow tartan
#

Shanghai either loses hard or doesnt lose at all

feral zodiac
#

Or ljg activates feed drive

willow tartan
#

still won

feral zodiac
#

If chengdu lose a single map shanghai will win

willow tartan
#

That is truth

#

4-0 or bust

candid gyro
#

You guys reckon chengdu takes the rematch

willow tartan
#

no

#

It makes less sense than Atlanta beating Shanghai.

#

Wouldn't make sense for Shanghai to lose when it's someone they've regularly scrimmed with in their region

#

only way Shanghai loses is if they shit the bed

vagrant cargo
#

i still hope chengdu wins tho

candid gyro
#

Same here

#

I think it makes sense for shanghai to win but Chengdu just make me want to root for them

#

Something about how they play

tacit skiff
#

Chengdu hype squad

sand cloak
ivory stag
#

Hunter could really win tbh they brought dragons to map give yesterday so I believe

cursive plover
#

Since they dropped Dallas I can only root for Chengdu

ivory stag
short urchin
#

super bad

#

πŸƒ

candid gyro
#

Would've been closer if they played what they were playing the past couple maps

ivory mason
#

I think it will be closer

#

Like a 4-2 shanghai but if hunters take dragons to map 7, hunters are winning

nocturne yacht
feral zodiac
#

What are rts

little tusk
#

who is kindred?

nocturne yacht
raw ermine
#

jinmu is a cruel man

willow tartan
#

hey uh

#

we will get skin per stage

#

but will we get skin for end of season playoffs?

north relic
willow tartan
#

mvp skin?...

north relic
willow tartan
#

well it wasnt based on him

#

but like other mvp skins id assume he was consulted on what he would like to see

#

what part of the mvp skin looks like fleta lol?

#

i mean the height ig

north relic
#

Probably the same thing with last year then

cursive plover
#

wait is all stars gonna be dps this year again?

#

I'd love to see heroes like pharah, doom, junk or such get an all stars skin

ivory stag
#

anyone have tracers owl grey skin?

barren quest
#

I have it

ivory stag
#

can you view the grey skin gun and screenshot the sides front and back and send them to me i wanna use it as a base for a prop im building for color scheme

barren quest
#

Can't do it rn since I'm not home

ivory stag
#

thats fine

sullen berry
willow tartan
#

would love to see that

#

no encore tokens? blizzard pls fix

unique stream
#

Guys you won't earn OWL tokens while watching encore?

willow tartan
#

the thing is broken

#

you should get

unique stream
#

Oh

plush grail
#

brenn is so talented

dull grotto
#

league tokens for this 12:30 game?

balmy wolf
#

hate encore matches

willow tartan
#

Y

sullen berry
#

just to be relatable with the kids

chilly jolt
#

how about that match yesterday huh

#

dallas vs atlanta

sullen berry
#

dat lanta

#

what is there to say about it

#

it was a glorious map 5

#

at least their performance isn't a fluke two tournaments in a row

chilly jolt
#

oh nothing im just sayin it was very entertaining

balmy wolf
sullen berry
#

for EU

chilly jolt
#

unlike some other team...

sullen berry
#

they can watch it during regular hours

chilly jolt
#

that may happen to be on my profile picture

#

OH i didn't even think about that

sullen berry
#

they're not stuck watching at 12am local time for it to finish at 7am

#

no sleep

chilly jolt
#

i thought it was like just for fun

#

that makes a lot more sense now

plush grail
#

i will eat you

sullen berry
#

but he is worthless

#

reinforce, sideshow and goldenboy combined to reduce their salaries just to bring on bren for the OWWC

tired zodiac
#

2cp should be banned in owl

#

imo

willow tartan
#

brenshow funny

#

me like funny

#

funny good

keen abyss
unique stream
willow tartan
#

we will get tokens

#

theyre fixed now

unique stream
willow tartan
#

yes

keen abyss
#

i had it on my second monitor for the entirety of yesterday and when i went to bed i put it in focus on my main monitor

unique stream
keen abyss
#

oh were tokens broken for evreyone yesterday?

willow tartan
#

yes

#

i got em

keen abyss
#

i haven't gotten mine yet sad

keen abyss
#

wait

#

are we going to receive the ones from watching yesterday or just the ones from the encore

unique stream
keen abyss
#

i'm 11 away from the ana skin if it keeps fucking up i will cry

unique stream
#

You don't have to watch just open

keen abyss
#

usually i just have the tab on my computer somewhere and at minimum volume

willow tartan
#

i received the ones from yesterday

sullen berry
willow tartan
#

they were retroactively added

sullen berry
#

true

willow tartan
#

since they werent working before

willow tartan
#

it has to be the focus of your device

#

if its in the background and not forefront

#

no tokens

keen abyss
#

i haven't gotten tokens either way

willow tartan
#

like even when im watching OWL and i move my mouse to my second monitor to type on discord

#

dont get tokens

#

well are you sure your bnet is connected properly to your yt?

#

if it is

keen abyss
#

did anything in particular trigger the tokens being added to your account

willow tartan
#

try watching on the OWL website instead

keen abyss
#

i've got this error on the OWL website

willow tartan
#

your bnet is cursed

keen abyss
#

i've managed to get aroudn it on an incognito tab before but

#

will i still get tokens on an incognito tab

#

whatever i guess i'll just open it on my phone

keen abyss
willow tartan
#

well thats been my experience

keen abyss
#

i swear i've gotten tokens just by having it in the background

willow tartan
#

dont get tokens when its not at the forefront

keen abyss
#

or on a second monitor

#

while doing something else

willow tartan
#

like if i occasionally moved my mouse to my second monitor

#

to do other stuff as i watched

#

id get less tokens

#

has to be focus of your pc

keen abyss
#

well i didn't get tokens either way

unique stream
#

I opened both YT and OWL website and I got the tokens

#

Not sure which one worked

#

But I can confirm Encore gives you the points

willow tartan
#

yea it does

ivory stag
#

fuel went πŸ’© last night whilst i slept like a baby

willow tartan
#

chengdifference

#

seoul did better than fuel

ivory stag
#

didnt excpect either na team to do well being as they not on the level of dive as apac

willow tartan
#

well then you got what you expected right?

#

NA winning 1 maps total

sullen berry
#

rewatching the stream these pickems are looking pretty good for a perfect bracket

ivory stag
#

did they i watched first hunters vs apac then by time the dallas vs reign started was like 11 clock so i went to bed figured today was gonna be hunters vs winning team but then found out that was last night too l;ol

willow tartan
#

whats your grand finals pickem prediction?

ivory stag
#

either hunters or dragons in final map

north relic
#

4-0 reign

sullen berry
#

Chengdu 4-2

willow tartan
#

no perfect bracket then sorry to break it to ya

ivory stag
#

it was too close last match so one of them gonna win final map no clean sweeps

sullen berry
#

😌

#

the king of the summer showdown about to win it again

#

or get really good second

willow tartan
#

dude i hate how the kings row OWL song has the match found/joining game sound

#

it gives me anxiety

willow tartan
#

that is how these will go

sullen berry
#

Chengdu giving it their 110% for their first championship title

#

it'd have to be at least 4-2

#

but the 4-0 that lingers for shanghai is also more convincing if you never watched a single match this stage

#

Chengdu have their set plays on lock

#

and lateyoung when he's not on full tilt is nothing short of spectacular

dull grotto
#

What does that girl do? Just pose in front of the camera?

sullen berry
#

just keep watching

#

that's not going to be the first time you see her

#

Soe just chilling in Hawaii

#

Meanwhile, because I'm watching the encore blind

#

this was an interesting note how Chengdu should win this matchup:

One of the narrative threads that seem most consistent throughout the 2021 OWL season has been teams enabling their own style through comfort picks. Here, the Chengdu Hunters have an incredible opportunity. LateYoung’s Zarya has come online.
As odd as it sounds, not only is Zarya a signature pick for the veteran, but it enables the Hunters’ Wrecking Ball to become more of a threat. Hybrid and Escort could become tricky for teams unfortunate enough to draw the Hunters due to how drastic the map geography tends to be on, but outside of that Zarya is going to be the pick that differentiates the Chengdu Hunters from the pack. 
willow tartan
#

is this the script notes

sullen berry
#

yeah

ivory stag
#

I like that reaper guy

sullen berry
#

scripts for the summer showdown

ivory stag
#

and his dual revolvers

willow tartan
#

Nah I think Shanghai still wins because I prefer the dva over the zarya

#

on paper, more skilled roster

#

more flexibility in composition choice so map picks will be in their favor

sullen berry
# ivory stag I like that reaper guy

@RadicalYue @overwatchleague @Custa @Reinforce gotta say my favourite character is definitely the reaper guy very powerful special move is honestly one of the best in the game & he comes equipped with these 2 revolvers, only takes 3-4 shots to actually execute a kill, so it comes in really handy when he come in from the side!

ivory stag
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i feel like if leave stuck on tracer and jimnu on pharah they would be better off but lips sombrah just beats jimnus outright

willow tartan
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i dont think they will be able to abuse the pharmercy too much

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because shanghai can mirror

ivory stag
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fletas pharah is ass compared to jimnus though

willow tartan
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they ran the pharah comp on busan against the hunters

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and won that map

sullen berry
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yveltal's understanding and mercy mechanics are the envy of many a pro mercy main

willow tartan
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now granted chengdu was choking

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but it shows that he can be effective

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fleta isnt a bad pharah bro

ivory stag
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i think if hunters dva was better it would be a closer game

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i feel thats their main weakness

willow tartan
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he's one of the top three pharahs in the league (and like the only 3 pharahs in the league)

barren quest
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Chengdu choked in Busan

willow tartan
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yea

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i just believe in shanghai to not choke and perform at the day

ivory stag
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imagine if they hard hard choke and get sweeped clean

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would be embarassing

willow tartan
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to be honest that is more believable than 4-2 chengdu

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as i said

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chengdu will have to either win hard or they dont win at all

plush grail
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dab on shanghai

willow tartan
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if you look at the shanghai dragons across this season, the only times they lose is where they absolutely get diffed

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like dominated

sullen berry
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There is no team even close to how consistent Shanghai can find early kills. Specifically for the Summer Showdown, the Shanghai Dragons have a 64.7% first elimination rate. The next closest team has a first elimination rate of 54.8%
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2 in 3 matches with the first elim?

willow tartan
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not like the first blood of the series lol

sullen berry
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assassin living up to his name, not exactly efficient though

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why isn't he even in mvp conversations yet

willow tartan
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idk he hasnt been doing particularly well in my eyes

sullen berry
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even for a rookie, those are some top numbers

willow tartan
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like he hasnt got that "fuck you" mvp energy

dull grotto
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When is next all star skin?

sullen berry
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postseason justice, bet

sullen berry
willow tartan
sullen berry
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all stars event won't be until the end of the regular season early september

willow tartan
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ye

sullen berry
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@dull grotto use this time wisely and save up for 400 tokens

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or you know, spend the monies for both East and West division skins

willow tartan
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not 400

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800

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wait no

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1000

sullen berry
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100,000

willow tartan
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200 for countdown cup, 200 for east, 200 for west, 200 for mvp, 200 for championship

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1000 tokens