izayaki has been really good this year
#esports-discussion
earnest leaf
polar dirge
Really hype
earnest leaf
he's overall just consistent af
lilac kestrel
tracer gameplay at its finest is always peak OW
upper niche
lol, these Soe clips. It's starting to look like the directors keep putting her in more and more ridiculous sitting-around situations to see what she'll put up with.
magic imp
this is the best meta for viewers thats the actual difference from goats
severe tusk
tracer gameplay at its finest is always peak OW
fleta v leave this match is so good
forest raven
Leave is simply the greatest player to touch the game
lilac kestrel
a hot take
worn falcon
izayaki has been really good this year
I find funny when some players were like in not so bad/bad teams, put with others and they improve
lilac kestrel
he is cracked af tho
worn falcon
Izayaki was with Valiant iirc
candid gyro
tracer gameplay at its finest is always peak OW
To be saying this means you have not seen the legend of silver3 play
worn falcon
Same Fate
fast tusk
i like to file a report on the water for harassment on soe
worn falcon
Striker came from Uprising
humble yarrow
Someone said this isn't Hawaii and got their message deleted
worn falcon
Striker 
severe tusk
Leave is simply the greatest player to touch the game
just wait until chengdu whip out jimmy
lilac kestrel
To be saying this means you have not seen the legend of silver3 play
i religiously avoid valiant games, is it that obvious?
worn falcon
Poor soe
ivory stag
does soe know that water is wet?
magic imp
Is Gibraltar jimmy coming up?
fast tusk
send the water to jail for harassment
gilded carbon
lol
tawdry hamlet
fast tusk
ocean cancelled
tawdry hamlet
worn hornet
woah now
ivory stag
anthony down bad
lilac kestrel
he is too down bad to be left alive
ivory stag
lol
gilded carbon
mr martial please
fast tusk
leave
humble yarrow
Leave
worn hornet
straight to horny jail. solitary confinement
humble yarrow
Lmao
ivory stag
she got some nice ink though
hollow bough
LMAO
worn falcon
candid gyro
Leave is deceased
hollow bough
Her tats are really cool
forest raven
hollow bough
lol
humble yarrow
What a guy
hollow bough
Self Care Leave
candid gyro
Fleta waterboarding leave for tracer knowledge
lilac kestrel
any time he isnt actively playing he plugs himself into a wall socket to recharge
worn hornet
my conspiracy is NA teams throwing for more free time in hawaii
hollow bough
lol
fast tusk
hes up
hollow bough
Leave is alive
humble yarrow
What a guy
candid gyro
I would probably be just as entertained if half of the screen was permanently taken up by gaga's facecam
Shit makes me wheeze
nocturne yacht
Twitter
hollow bough
MMONK
lilac kestrel
mmonk saw the zen stats and said fuck it
magic imp
Chengdu is the reverse sweep team because it takes them all time to wake up
game 3 leave game 4 mmonk
lilac kestrel
chengdu dont want to lose
lilac kestrel
well you can see it in the gameplay
north relic
source on that?
they arent on ameng
lilac kestrel
they like, dont die and kill the red people
gilded carbon
they arent on ameng
LOL
dreamy cave
Come on hunterrrrs
north relic
isnt izayaki first in all zen stats
lilac kestrel
yes
dreamy cave
lilac kestrel
aside from def assists
crystal kite
Getting flashbacks to the first ever league match I’ve watched
This exact point on wpg
north relic
first ever league match i watched was like glads washington on volskaya last year
crystal kite
That must’ve been good
north relic
i remember nyxl clutching againist chengdu on wpg last year
forest raven
SHANGHAI IS ELITE
gilded carbon
whats wpg mean?
lilac kestrel
watchpoint gibraltar
north relic
whats wpg mean?
the current map
gilded carbon
oh right lol
magic imp
fleta deserves potm
severe tusk
fleta deserves potm
first shd have to win
severe tusk
you never know
north relic
2 lip emps
lilac kestrel
all this is telling me is how sloppy fuel look by comparison
even fearless' winston doesnt look this good
sullen berry
The May Melee Chengdu was all a lie 
The one that swept Shanghai 3-0 with Elsa and Jimmy
raw ermine
Twitter
lilac kestrel
which team is roolf?
north relic
https://twitter.com/Gandala_/status/1416086937417527298
where is kaan
stuck radish
vancouver
lilac kestrel
i really wanna say titans
stuck radish
where is kaan
roolf just better sadly
ivory stag
lets go
lilac kestrel
i just wanna go to sleep
humble yarrow
Reverse sweep
supple prism
no
candid gyro
GIVE ME THE REVERSE SWEEP
supple prism
no sleep for you
small breach
we're in the CHENGDU ZONE now
dreamy cave
LETS FUCKING GOO
lilac kestrel
priorites: 1. watch leave 2. my own health and wellbeing
candid gyro
Aren't there 2 more matches after this?
worthy void
leave is carrying
lilac kestrel
Aren't there 2 more matches after this?
i dont care about watching Atl lose reallly
sullen berry
Here we go, for all time
severe tusk
Aren't there 2 more matches after this?
ye
worthy void
That nano saved leave gg
north relic
its going to be a long night...
rotund sail
candid gyro
I feel 15 maps tonight
worn hornet
Shipwrecked Soe now?
ivory stag
didnt age well
sullen berry
Chengdu will be prepared to go map 5 if they can continue to take team fights convincingly
humble yarrow
Soe is dying out there
stuck radish
dragons boomed?
candid gyro
dragons boomed?
God I hope so
worn hornet
same music, but in a minor key
sullen berry
Replace it with a draining health bar
worn hornet
and at like 50% speed
candid gyro
They aren't really the type to boom though
north relic
do they just say to soe that they are going to record her just buried in sand for 5 minutes
sullen berry
Pandamonium
north relic
any idea if past owl skins are coming back/
dreamy cave
sos
sullen berry
Brackets get busted except me
midnight schooner
This is insane. Map 5
lilac kestrel
Brackets get busted except me
that is the right answer, lmao
sullen berry
S O S
midnight schooner
Pickems about to be destroyed
dreamy cave
The soe Simpson are gonna go save her.
midnight schooner
Reverse sweep
sullen berry
is how the chengdu doubters will feel, and I can relate
north relic
will there be an encore tomorrow
candid gyro
You already know yt chat is down bad
worn hornet
Wilson!
worn hornet
or is it gonna be Danny?
dark hedge
shanghai trash smh
hollow bough
its fucking Carl
midnight schooner
shanghai trash smh
Nah. Leave just better.
sullen berry
If Soe does come come back with an eye patch and Carl
worn hornet
of course. Reinforce as drawn by a child.
sullen berry
The continuity will be broken
dark hedge
Nah. Leave just better.
nah shanghai just a bottom tier team
dark hedge
worse than valiant
candid gyro
Who wins?
A big fucking dragon
Panda
safe marsh
I don’t see how twitch chat will be any better lol
dark hedge
smh
midnight schooner
Shanghai's not the same without Diem 
safe marsh
Just a bunch of zoomers spamming emotes instead of c9
ivory stag
imagine if shd loses kek
worn hornet
All the simple want a nip slip lmao
Funniest part is them thinking they'd use a take with a nip slip
frosty shell
CARL IS MVP
crystal kite
The YouTube live chat is full of ppl simping soe in the mid map little skits
It’s hilarious
frosty shell
CARL IS hot
humble yarrow
Funniest part is them thinking they'd use a take with a nip slip
Yea. Simps have a mind of their own
safe marsh
I doubt they’re serious about it xd
frosty shell
CARL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
crystal kite
You never know
worn hornet
then there's me sitting here all like "I wonder where I can get the suit she's wearing"
crystal kite
Nip slip soe would break the fanbases mind
sullen berry
https://twitter.com/obiwank52854234/status/1416230767135363072?s=19
Looking for votes
crystal kite
MMonk is insane
humble yarrow
then there's me sitting here all like "I wonder where I can get the suit she's w...
Search the web. As long as you know what it's call you can probably find it.
humble yarrow
Is late young small or is it a big chair
fast tusk
yeeeeeeee
candid gyro
Yeeeeeeeeeee
safe marsh
What are mods deleting
worn hornet
lots and lots of hornyposting
fossil sand
God damn bro I didn’t realise that legit every team in OWL is korean
hollow bough
pretty much
Except for the chinese teams, but even then a lot of chinese teams have koreans
barren quest
Hunters and Valiant are full Chinese
north relic
The only non Korean is like London
barren quest
And Paris
north relic
Yea
fossil sand
Yeah it seems like most teams don’t even com in English because they’re all just korean/Chinese
humble yarrow
lots and lots of hornyposting
As to be expected.
barren quest
Mixed Western rosters communicate in English
dusty hound
Yeah it seems like most teams don’t even com in English because they’re all just...
mixed teams do like shock, fusion and glads
north relic
lots and lots of hornyposting
Oh I thought you meant this channel lmao
fossil sand
mixed teams do like shock, fusion and glads
Even then bro it’s like 4/5 korean/Chinese
north relic
the OWL gods really do hate my sleep schedule
Encores exist for a reason
green dust
true but for some reason, encore doesnt seem as fun
forest raven
My entire Saturday is just gonna be OWL at this rate
lilac kestrel
im emotionally invested at this point
forest raven
green dust
alright here we go, map 5
fossil sand
Bro I just wanna watch the aimlabs tournament tomorrow
worn hornet
aimlabs...tournaments?
fossil sand
Yeah bro
humble yarrow
Apparently
humble yarrow
Sounds cringe
fossil sand
It’s got a 50k prize pool in it lmao
humble yarrow
Bruhh
worn hornet
50k prize pool for what is essentially a skills competition
dusty hound
Why doesn't leave play cree?
both teams are running high mobility comps cree would get 100% destroyed
upper niche
50k for a pro sport isn't anything to write home about, especially across the tourney
Think about it - if you split that 25, 12, 6, 6, so now you're down to 25k just for winning.
hollow bough
50k prize pool for a mini tournament is still great
upper niche
Now you have to split that between expenses of getting to the tourney, and the players are required to get 50% as per the player contracts.
so now you're dividing 13k 9-ish ways.
fossil sand
Now you have to split that between expenses of getting to the tourney, and the p...
Half the people in at aren’t in contracts lmao
worn hornet
wouldn't aimlabs be competing as individuals though?
upper niche
oh, my bad, I thought you were talking about Summer Showdown.
hollow bough
Yeah
Summer showdown prize pool is 100k for first place, and i forget the 2nd and 3rd place prize
fossil sand
There’s only like 1 contracted player in it and that’s TenZ
worn hornet
for team games yeah the prize pool spreads thin pretty quickly
fossil sand
Valorant pro
ivory stag
ggs
upper niche
Yeah, so 50k goes to expenses, by the time you play travel and accommodation for say 12-15 players+staff, tehre's not much left.
And hotels in America are expensive AF.
worn hornet
and hotels in Hawaii are expensive relative to America
upper niche
Though I think the university has them sorted for dorms.
humble yarrow
Biiiig
worn hornet
unless the league's paying lodging for them
fossil sand
Wasn’t FaZe meant to taking tons of money from earnings?
hollow bough
Pretty sure you don't pay expenses out of the prize pools, but okay
upper niche
and hotels in Hawaii are expensive relative to America
Hotels in Hawaii were the cheapest of any place I've visited except for Vegas.
upper niche
Pretty sure you don't pay expenses out of the prize pools, but okay
They would pay it out of general revenue, but that money has to sit as a line on a budget sheet somewhere - the cost of getting to the tourney ends up canceling itself out pretty quickly.
tawdry hamlet
chengdu threw with that comp choice lmao
barren quest
Gg
candid gyro
I don't really understand why they went orisa
green dust
wtf happened to chengdu lmao
worn hornet
Hotels in Hawaii were the cheapest of any place I've visited except for Vegas.
recent development with reduced travel or was it always weirdly low relative to what one would expect?
dusty hound
i wanna see this again tomorrow, i hope chengdu roll dallas or reing whoever win next
earnest leaf
god i'm malding
dreamy cave
Tactical technical difficulties
earnest leaf
chengdu did the biggest throw of all time on that last map
tawdry hamlet
lets play orisa 
candid gyro
3?
fossil sand
Yo bro I thought point maps were first to 3?
fossil sand
When’s next match?
hollow bough
so 15 credits for 1 match B)
earnest leaf
koth hasn't been first to 3 for years
devout path
3 hours for the first match btw
2 and a half
fossil sand
koth hasn't been first to 3 for years
Think last time I watched was when goats was meta so I got no clue anything about the game anymore
earnest leaf
yea a lot has changed since goats
fossil sand
Just started playing again
devout path
Like echo being a character
fossil sand
And the last time I played was like season 3
nocturne yacht
I’m so close pls RT guys https://twitter.com/fs4sniperr/status/1415391406726787079?s=21 
Twitter
dreamy cave
Giving a interview to the winning team is kinda biased. I feel like they should pick the player who did the most in the match in general. Not from the final winning perspective.
fossil sand
Dunno if you would wanna get interviewed after losing
dreamy cave
If you played well, you played well.
worn hornet
they should adopt a 3 stars system like ice hockey IMO
fossil sand
What’s that
barren quest
The 30 seconds of Chengdu brawl 
worn hornet
pick the 3 most impactful players across both team
fossil sand
I can’t even tell the difference between people in ice hockey
candid gyro
Racist smh
fast tusk
cmon atlanta
ivory stag
whose ready for hunters vs dragons tomorrow lol
fast tusk
dammit
fast tusk
we win next fight
worn hornet
over/under on a "hawaii kind of sucked" quip from Soe when she gets back to the desk?
forest raven
I really hope Atlanta goes 0-6
fast tusk
thank god there atleast playing better then against shangai\
dreamy cave
Let's gooooo
fast tusk
YEAAAA
dreamy cave
YESSSSSS
fast tusk
lessss gooo
dreamy cave
YOU LOVE TO SEE IT
fossil sand
What orgs are both these teams?
dreamy cave
No idea.
digital cloud
dallas nv
dreamy cave
I am a fan. Not a fucking librarian
fast tusk
5 min
fossil sand
It’s 5am I should probably be sleeping
fossil sand
I am a fan. Not a fucking librarian
Ass fan?
digital cloud
some of the orgs for apac teams are hard to remember
dreamy cave
I'm more of a boob fan.
worn hornet
anyone who claims to not be a fan of ass is a liar
digital cloud
ass overrated
tawdry hamlet
Atlanta is an esports venture that owns the atlanta reign of owl and the altanta faze of cdl but is ultimately owned by an internet company iirc
dreamy cave
But what about the plot? :0
tawdry hamlet
digital cloud
you haven't watched for a while, I guess
worn hornet
OMG
worn hornet
Stunning stuff
dreamy cave
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
fast tusk
YESSSSSSS
digital cloud
ball comps are all about getting in there and murdering everything that moves
dreamy cave
fast tusk
WE COME BACK
fossil sand
you haven't watched for a while, I guess
Bro it been like 3 or 2 years
worn falcon
Ratlanta
fossil sand
Like goats was the last time I watched
digital cloud
I could have sworn goats was last year
shadow dagger
it's rush, that is how it is played, just tactical inting
lmfao
fast tusk
5v5
digital cloud
god, that means that titans have been trash for two years
has it truly been so long
dreamy cave
Indeed
digital cloud
fuck you titans org
tawdry hamlet
titans officially dropped that roster may 5th 2020
fossil sand
I 100% haven’t watched anything last year
digital cloud
fuck you
digital cloud
fuck you valiant org too for good measure
fossil sand
I was probably professional level as a console roadhog hook 1.0 1 trick ngl
fossil sand
Yeah bro
digital cloud
probably gold on pc
fossil sand
Nobody escaped me
digital cloud
nobody can do shit on console
dreamy cave
No. People did escape you. You can only grab 1 target.
digital cloud
the game is basically built for mouse and keyboard
fossil sand
No. People did escape you. You can only grab 1 target.
Didn’t matter?
They all died to me anyway
dreamy cave
I mean. If u hook the wrong guy.
fossil sand
You think I made such shit mistakes?
dreamy cave
If u hook a ana and kill them but the annoyed genji is already on your backline... then yeah.
Nanoed*
fossil sand
Bro you acting like people played ana on console
dreamy cave
I play console and I can confirm that ppl play ana
fast tusk
ye same
fossil sand
?
dreamy cave
Throw the hole conversation away.
fossil sand
Whole
dreamy cave
Okay.
fossil sand
I never stuck top 500 I don’t think
dreamy cave
Kings row.
fossil sand
I was top 500 for like 3 games or something but good enough for me
digital cloud
scrims row
worn hornet
I need someone to explain that one
dreamy cave
Wait, what just happened?
fast tusk
i dont even know
supple prism
seems like the gap between the S tier teams and the A tier teams has collapsed
fossil sand
This team getting rolled rn
dreamy cave
LETS GOOOOOOO
fast tusk
is that a c9 ?
supple prism
no
fossil sand
Envy clear like being a T2 team in everything they play
dreamy cave
No it wasnt
fast tusk
k
supple prism
the term c9 is abused so bad
dreamy cave
DOHA STOP TRYING TO CARRY
supple prism
these tele plays are crazy
fast tusk
nicceeee
dreamy cave
BRING IT IN ATL
supple prism
making orisa a dive hero
dreamy cave
supple prism
i need to see that shatter replay
fossil sand
How that shatter not hitting anyone?
fast tusk
im glad that shatter didnt connect but how did it not connect ???????
tribal canopy
What is ajax
fossil sand
The sym wall blocked it?
tribal canopy
im glad that shatter didnt connect but how did it not connect ???????
Masaa
dreamy cave
Do you have a slow horse? Just teleport it. 5 head.
supple prism
he was past the sym wall but it may have been the map geometry
fast tusk
What is ajax
its wasting beat
fossil sand
What is ajax
Football team
tribal canopy
he was past the sym wall but it may have been the map geometry
Masaa
fast tusk
:OOO
dreamy cave
COME ON ATL.
fast tusk
legs
digital cloud
legs?
fast tusk
screw atlanta
why do yo hate atlanta ???
fossil sand
Atlanta chokers
stuck radish
because my team got rolled by them so naturally i dont like atlanta
fast tusk
wow
dreamy cave
supple prism
im looking back at the shatter and its so hard to tell. The orisa shield broke, he went around the sigma shield, brig was too far off to the side to save mei who was dead inline with the shatter but he is 50/50 past the sym shield and he the maps floor is too funky to tell what denied it
fossil sand
Are gladiators shit?
fossil sand
Makes sense
fast tusk
YEEAAAAA
dreamy cave
Let's goooooooooo
fossil sand
They do share owners with Arsenal
dreamy cave
RUN IT
stuck radish
why are the teams with stacked ass rosters not performing nearly as well as expected this season
fossil sand
And arsenal are a team fighting for top 6
stuck radish
minus shanghai and dallas
fast tusk
YESSSSSS
supple prism
i think hero bans messes with these supposed stacked teams
worn hornet
hell of a push
dreamy cave
WE TAKE THOSE
fast tusk
sooooo winnable
supple prism
what is sleep?
fast tusk
doha on legs ?
stuck radish
and tbh dallas isnt THAT stacked on paper
but they do better than teams like shock and glads
way better
fast tusk
tru
severe tusk
atl getting fleta flashbacks
severe tusk
Not running hitscan vs pharah?
hitscan would get dove pretty hard by the rest of the team is the problem
next mesa
None of these teams are gonna win against chengdu
stuck radish
dallas looks way more sloppy than usual
fossil sand
Another NA near airport speed run
dreamy cave
COME ON ATL
fast tusk
DAMMIT
digital cloud
sparkle doom so fucking clutch
fast tusk
FUCK OFF DALLAS
stuck radish
doomfist worst hero in the game BTW
supple prism
hack fist
worn falcon
Sparple pharah
supple prism
sparple
fossil sand
When will NA manage to stay consistent at a game
worn falcon
they are consistent
Consistently losing, yes
stuck radish
yeah but theyre consistent
worn falcon
apac finally has a team that is consistant
Chengdu
dreamy cave
Are u sure about that one cheif?
worn falcon
:PogChimp:
digital cloud
(marve1 joke here)
stuck radish
how is philly not a top tier team tbh
i thought they would dominate every team but shanghai in apac
digital cloud
bad
balmy wolf
anyways if fraudlanta loses this game they're eliminated from the tourney right
stuck radish
yes
dreamy cave
They went from being the justice league to the guardians of the globe.
balmy wolf
Good
stuck radish
dw guys shock will get it together and win the countdown cup
fast tusk
pffft
balmy wolf
😂
worn falcon
Ratlanta is like not a very flexible team tho
balmy wolf
muze MTD super easily
digital cloud
3peat incoming
balmy wolf
They can gatekeep low teams
well anyone can gatekeep vancouver
stuck radish
they almost lost to london
balmy wolf
still waiting for vancouver v london
digital cloud
muze has not impressed me, nor mag this year
fast tusk
They can gatekeep low teams
who ?
stuck radish
vancouver v valiant would be the true test of skill
worn falcon
they almost lost to london
Almost
digital cloud
jjannggu, piggy, and gaga have been the only good noob tanks
stuck radish
london would win vs vancouver
worn falcon
But not lose
balmy wolf
when i wake up tmr
worn falcon
Mag was solid
balmy wolf
i expect to wake up to Dva gray skin
worn falcon
Muze took much time to get used to OWL pace
balmy wolf
dont need to ask
fast tusk
did kai not come with atlanta to hawaii ???
stuck radish
or more specifically
worn falcon
Hawk and Pelican are like devastated
stuck radish
pelican dont be good challenge
stuck radish
atlanta getting rolled because they play rush against winston dva pharmercy
supple prism
because reign isnt an adapting team, they run what that scrimmed
stuck radish
wtf are you gonna rush
balmy wolf
because reign isnt an adapting team, they run what that scrimmed
they still manage to get into the ss though
sadly
dreamy cave
come on atl!
balmy wolf
ur team is boomed man
tawdry hamlet
honestly imo none of the na teams besides dallas would do any better than atlanta is doing
worn falcon
Sparple again
stuck radish
shock would do good if it would be one of the 1/50 games where they do good
balmy wolf
like maybe just maybe glads
if David doesnt fall over yes
dreamy cave
Please just play bastion or something
worn falcon
I wonder where Valiant would be placed before imploding
worn falcon
Yeah, probs
stuck radish
mildly sized emp
worn falcon
Hope xzi come back next year
balmy wolf
yeah waiting for some REAL apac competition 🥱
worn falcon
Or depends on health thing
fast tusk
WE COME BACK
dreamy cave
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
fast tusk
LESS GOOOO
worn hornet
does ATL have the lights out in their room?
forest raven
Another match after this 
dreamy cave
green dust
scriptwriters really popping off
supple prism
why is Reign playing in the dark?
hollow bough
i went to the gym and back and dallas vs atlanta is still going. jesus christ
forest raven
why is Reign playing in the dark?
It's 7:15pm in Hawaii
humble yarrow
i went to the gym and back and dallas vs atlanta is still going. jesus christ
How late you going to the gym my guy
supple prism
lights exist
dreamy cave
Someone did say it was going to be a 15 match day today right??
worn hornet
oh shit I thought they were playing that one tomorrow
hollow bough
How late you going to the gym my guy
I left at 8 pm, its 10 pm now
supple prism
does Hawaii not have electricity?
worn hornet
think I'm gonna have to catch the encore for the 3rd one. can't keep staying up until 3
humble yarrow
I've seen this one before
supple prism
they ran out of Soe shots
humble yarrow
I gotta stay up till 3 so I can get the token
dreamy cave
I feel 15 maps tonight
^
upper niche
it hasnt been giving me tokens 😦
humble yarrow
Gotta connect
upper niche
no, I mean it always have in the past, but it hasn't for the tourney.
fast tusk
does it say connected at the bottom of the video
upper niche
yeah lol. Tides coming in
dreamy cave
^ facts
fast tusk
its 10:18pm for me
humble yarrow
Western time moment
humble yarrow
I think
dreamy cave
Yeah son
fast tusk
oh wow
balmy wolf
forest raven
fast tusk
atlanta ?
fast tusk
where are your lights
balmy wolf
so chengdu is probs gonna win regardless
worn falcon
Dallas boomed now
dreamy cave
RUN IT
worn falcon
Which map
humble yarrow
Yea shd is gonna win the tournament again
worn falcon
Oh damn
dreamy cave
Napal
tired zodiac
is it 2-2 rn?
fast tusk
first win reign
balmy wolf
when Fleta
supple prism
"Oh Pharah you piece of shit" - ZP
forest raven
Hawk DM a barrage challenge (impossible)
dreamy cave
LETS GOOOOOOO
tawdry hamlet
dallas beat atlanta challenge (unlikely but possible)
humble yarrow
Dallas is slowly but surely getting worse
supple prism
more like others are catching up
tired zodiac
nano phara??
humble yarrow
But...
tired zodiac
called it
humble yarrow
Fearless on ball
dreamy cave
COME ON ATLANTA.
humble yarrow
How far are you behind @tired zodiac
dreamy cave
fast tusk
YEAAAAAA
tired zodiac
sadge
humble yarrow
MASAA
balmy wolf
whoever wins is just gonna get rolled by chengdu so i honestly dont even care at this point
fast tusk
still entertaining tho
humble yarrow
Speedy
tired zodiac
bring the sparkle genji
tawdry hamlet
so how is my Atlanta Shanghai finals pred looking now 
humble yarrow
But hunters will roll both of them
balmy wolf
^
stuck radish
so how is my Atlanta Shanghai finals pred looking now <:hmm:782847820452855818>
still bad because chengdu
balmy wolf
not shanghai
dreamy cave
EDISON
balmy wolf
how do i force myself to do preds for countdown cup
stuck radish
no way atlanta wins against chengdu if jinmu runs pharah
humble yarrow
Yummy blade
severe tusk
"reign are flying qatar airways right now"
lol
i wonder where doha's name comes from
humble yarrow
Sparkle
fast tusk
XDDDD
humble yarrow
Just a flyy
dreamy cave
Big question mark
tired zodiac
n1
stuck radish
i wonder where doha's name comes from
do the haha funny
do the haha
do haha
do ha
balmy wolf
galaxy brain
humble yarrow
What if dallas beats hunters
tired zodiac
i will coom
stuck radish
they wont if chengdu doesnt throw
humble yarrow
Hunters get 3rd place????
balmy wolf
oh they went back to mei zzzzzymetra mirrors
humble yarrow
Except London and titans
stuck radish
london has an alright coach
humble yarrow
What happened to soon?
tired zodiac
that fcking sym ult tho
upper niche
This is it, winner of this fight goes through.
tired zodiac
LETS GOOO
upper niche
oh wow, okay, that was over quick lol
forest raven
ATLANTA ON MAP 5 
gilded carbon
yo the two games played tonight were good games
humble yarrow
There is 1 more game
gilded carbon
oh shit
upper niche
Dallas Chengdon't time?
severe tusk
yo the two games played tonight were good games
the next one tho >_<
worn falcon
Geeez
dreamy cave
Damn. That was a good match
gilded carbon
Imma watch dallas get rolled again
upper niche
1 more game? Oh, it's first to 4?
balmy wolf
bye bye atlanta 👋
stuck radish
1 more game? Oh, it's first to 4?
only for finals
severe tusk
1 more game? Oh, it's first to 4?
nah, one more match
upper niche
that's what I thought
severe tusk
loser of the winners bracket plays winner of the losers bracket
upper niche
oh, one more match, not map.
humble yarrow
Yes
worn falcon
Chengdu vs Dallas
stuck radish
alright
upper niche
Well yeah duh, that's what I said, what was the point of that commetn then?
stuck radish
time to get rolled by chengdu
worn falcon
Isnt that tomorrow?
upper niche
nah today
humble yarrow
What if sparkle pharaoh diffs jinmu?
stuck radish
he wont
upper niche
tomorrow is just SHD vs the winner of the next one.
worn falcon
Bro, its 12:38
stuck radish
its jinmu
worn falcon
Jesus
worn falcon
Those kids gotta drink a lot of monster to keep up the pace
And Chengdu have time to refresh themselves
balmy wolf
please dont be a 5 map series
hollow bough
just barely
stuck radish
Bro, its 12:38
hawaii timezone
worn falcon
Meanwhile Dallas is drained
balmy wolf
i want to sleep
severe tusk
And Chengdu have time to refresh themselves
it's 7:40pm in hawaii
upper niche
pft it's like 3:40pm here 😄
severe tusk
& chengdu are winners' bracket
dallas are losers' bracket
that's just how it works
humble yarrow
Hunters just 3-0 plz
upper niche
This is actually decent time for OWL to play matches, unlike the normal stupid 4am matches.
severe tusk
shanghai had to play back-to-back last tournament too
worn hornet
I'm out of juice. Have fun with match 5
severe tusk
gn
balmy wolf
😬
worn falcon
I dont remember how much time have Dallas
severe tusk
I dont remember how much time have Dallas
not long
worn falcon
They gotta pull teh Adderall and monsters
severe tusk
but it's been like this every tournament
worn falcon
I mean yeah, but when you have long ass maps it's draining af
severe tusk
agreed
personally idk what format i'd go with, maybe stretch it out another day
but that's the compromise made when coming from the losers' bracket and i think it's fair because of that
imo
dreamy cave
So are we all in agreeance that its hunters vs dragons?
ebon aurora
So are we all in agreeance that its hunters vs dragons?
most likely, if any team could somehow win back to back from NA though it's Dallas
dreamy cave
They just played a long 5 map match. And wont have long to breath.
ebon aurora
having said that, Shanghai in JJ won back to back 3-0
then again, NY are a much weaker matchup than Chengdu
forest raven
Shanghai has to play two series back to back: "It's not fair they got to carry their momentum forward"
Dallas has to play two series back to back: "It's not fair they have to play again and can't rest"
NA 
ebon aurora
yeah I agree that it's right that lower bracket should have a disadvantage
but maybe change it so upper bracket winner gets a 1 map headstart in the final and have the lower bracket played another day?
idk it's tough
As a tournament organiser/admin myself I hate having to make these sorts of scheduling decisions
severe tusk
but maybe change it so upper bracket winner gets a 1 map headstart in the final ...
1 map headstart is waaaay too much imo, that's just a bad place to start
especially in a bo3
ebon aurora
it's a bo7
forest raven
Grand finals are first to 4
severe tusk
oh, you mean grand finals?
dreamy cave
Let's get that map 15 bay-beeee
ebon aurora
yeah
severe tusk
hmm
ebon aurora
currently, the only advantage upper bracket gets is opening map pick
forest raven
Tokens
severe tusk
i feel like grand finals should definitely be a 0-0 start
ebon aurora
but then they don't have to play 2 matches back to back
severe tusk
but like, i feel like the run through lower bracket is punishing enough
that it kinda makes being upper bracket worth it
ebon aurora
it's a really tough situation
severe tusk
if you wanted to say let the upper bracket loser have an advantage in match 5 (the one that's coming up) and then hold that match on a different day i think that makes sense
dreamy cave
That's why you play so hard in winners. So its easier
severe tusk
but it's a bo5 so a map diff is too rough
ebon aurora
I'm glad I'm not having to make that sort of decision
severe tusk
tbh nobody complained about the dragons having to do it back-to-back
ebon aurora
tbh nobody complained about the dragons having to do it back-to-back
yeah I know, however they "only" had to play NY compared to Chengdu
severe tusk
back then everybody just accepted that it's what lower bracket teams have to do, that's why you work hard to be upper bracket
ebon aurora
both played Reign
mortal abyss
If dallas loses you just know people are going to claim bad schedule
ebon aurora
yeah as I said, it's a hard situation whichever way you look at it
forest raven
but what else can you do
Win in round 1 lole
severe tusk
and hawaii diff
ebon aurora
can't please everyone
mortal abyss
Because it’s obviously impossible for apac to be better then NA 🥱
severe tusk
Because it’s obviously impossible for apac to be better then NA 🥱
not just NA, but the dallas fuel
earnest leaf
Regardless of teams and skill
severe tusk
the best team in the entire league by a mile
severe tusk
But na having to go to hawaii is a disadvantage
yeah definitely
tawdry hamlet
I would care about the travel diff if shanghai wasn't going to win anyway, but if it was like may melee where all the teams were actually close I would actually care
green dust
one more game lets gooooo
severe tusk
idk why they don't have qualifiers end earlier
mortal abyss
Well they’re clearly not the best team anymore 
severe tusk
or like a week inbetween for hawaii teams to get set up
ebon aurora
IF Dallas somehow wins this, would you make them favourites then against SHD
mortal abyss
No amount of “travel disadvantages “ is going to fix that
severe tusk
Way behind on the meta
yeah, plus they don't have ball players
severe tusk
IF Dallas somehow wins this, would you make them favourites then against SHD
shd are favourites cos of meta atm
next tournament will depend on the meta
tawdry hamlet
Way behind on the meta
yeah that is why apac looks so much better, because na didn't know pharah ball was going to be hard meta
so they practiced mei sym rush
which was not the play
ebon aurora
shd are favourites cos of meta atm
my point is, if Dallas counter Chengdu that's basically what SHD will play
severe tusk
ohhh by "this" i thought u meant the tournament lol
mortal abyss
yeah that is why apac looks so much better, because na didn't know pharah ball w...
The NA teams that did play pharah ball (glads) also didn’t have the macro to pull it off
ebon aurora
no I meant the final tomorrow
severe tusk
hmm
it depends on what chengdu come out and run, but shanghai still have an advantage i think
tawdry hamlet
like if NA wasn't blatantly worse this time around I would care about travel diff, but there is reason why everyone said "this is pretty much guranteed for shanghai" lmao
but the meta just so far behind for na atm
earnest leaf
I wouldn't say na is behind on meta
ebon aurora
in all likelihood though, Chengdu wins this comfortably
Dallas just looked shattered
earnest leaf
both regions just ran drastically different comps
severe tusk
in all likelihood though, Chengdu wins this comfortably
yep, all eyes on leave
earnest leaf
and apac meta this time around apac comp was better
forest raven
I mean if the ball comp keeps winning then uh
worn falcon
Both regions tried the same meta, apac preferred other
severe tusk
the thing is, chengdu had massive carry performances in their game against shanghai earlier today which is why I think it was close
ebon aurora
if ball keeps winning, I wonder if it would get banned for CC
earnest leaf
When the regions are seperate
worn falcon
Ive seen some APAC teams pñaying the same meta as NA
earnest leaf
we don't know which meta is better until they go vs eachother
worn falcon
Yeh
severe tusk
i don't think dallas have the same carry potential and rely on teamwork, so even if dallas win, i think they'll be a different opponent for shanghai
earnest leaf
NA would be behind if they also ran the meta but were just straight worse
severe tusk
we don't know which meta is better until they go vs eachother
essentially when this happens in may melee, nobody bats an eye because it's NA out on top
ebon aurora
jinmu v sparkle pharah matchup let's go
severe tusk
jinmu v sparkle pharah matchup let's go
i'm surprised we didn't see any pharah v pharah in the shd-chengdu matchup
tawdry hamlet
idk why dallas or atlanta didn't just say fuck it and go for the hail mary and mirror the pharah comp in the later maps lmao
ebon aurora
straight into the dive
worn falcon
I wonder if sparkle pharah was their hidden ace
ebon aurora
this is going to be fun
wet oak
What time is the encore tomorrow?
worn falcon
The weren't ready lol
tawdry hamlet
yeah dallas whipped out the pharah finally in their games
so at least they are trying to adapt
dreamy cave
LETS GOOOO HUNTERRRRS
tawdry hamlet
would be comeback of the century if Dallas ends up winning this whole tourney
tawdry hamlet
fearless not having a ball is the biggest bruh moment
worn falcon
Gaga
tawdry hamlet
like everyone thought shanghai was bad in the beginning because fate couldn't get value with monkey
worn falcon
Wtf
tawdry hamlet
but it turns out he found out ball is just better way back then
blades into an emp shield bash
Finally night time so I can toke up
Hate watching knockout games sober they make me anxious lmao
worn falcon
Doha emps are odd
mortal abyss
See overall in the league dallas will get exposed a lot because of their inability to play against ball properly, but because they’re in NA that doesn’t matter nearly as much because none of the teams play ball, so they can still go to hawaii easily
humble yarrow
I'm so tired
dreamy cave
lets gooooo
mortal abyss
Nice blade lol
worn falcon
Sparple forcing genji into brig/sombra is rough
tawdry hamlet
It isn't rough it's fucking dumb lmao
worn falcon
I don't know why he didn't tried pharah on gardens though
dreamy cave
come on hunterss
tawdry hamlet
So all we're learning here is there's only two good teams in the whole league
worn falcon
Holy fucl leave
tawdry hamlet
:OmegaLUL:
worn falcon
If only was xzi here