esports-discussion

[next mesa]

we dicked u guys last map

[willow tartan]

the whole season people were talking about the mega matchup between shock and dragons

[next mesa]

gesture hog literally so good

[willow tartan]

but then coming in theres a meta where dragons cant even play fearless

so it just feels like a let down

[tawdry hamlet]

As an avid philly supporter, I agree that is pain losing after having all the pieces and doing super well all season :OmegaLUL:

[next mesa]

Idk fearless hog aint even bad ngl

its great actually

[willow tartan]

like...

[next mesa]

they played it in apac finals

[willow tartan]

it just feels like i was robbed of an epic match between dragons and shock in a different meta

diem tried so hard to carry

[tawdry hamlet]

When fusion beat shock in summer showdown I had them going all the way in the playoffs, then it turned out Heesu and Sado were vastly overrated by the success of the team

[willow tartan]

when fusion beat shock and lost to paris

[earnest leaf]

fusion only beat shock in some random regular season game

[next mesa]

Diem so good

[earnest leaf]

with hero bans

[next mesa]

when diem in the game its just not his fault

[earnest leaf]

And shock proceeded to beat them in the countdown cup like two weeks later

[next mesa]

mans cracked

[willow tartan]

yes im simp for diem

[next mesa]

same

[earnest leaf]

It's funny

[willow tartan]

he'll be back right guys???...

[earnest leaf]

Ans retired, diem stays

[next mesa]

Diem >= Ans

[willow tartan]

right?....

[earnest leaf]

diem retires, ans comes back

Nah I love diem but ans is built different

[next mesa]

U can only get 1 goat sniper I guess

idk dawg

Diem widow is goat widow

[willow tartan]

diem beat ans in the widowmaker 1v1

[earnest leaf]

Ans unironically carried s3 shock

[tawdry hamlet]

Mfw Dps is so stacked that both Libero and Ivy can't find teams this year 😭

[earnest leaf]

diem goat at the widow 1v1s, ans goat at the widow in game

[willow tartan]

dude

[next mesa]

If only diem and ans

played against eachother multiple times

sigh

f

[willow tartan]

^^^

[earnest leaf]

yea

Also remember

[willow tartan]

unfortunately we didnt get to see diem play in the regular season

[next mesa]

we'll never really know

[willow tartan]

all too much

[tawdry hamlet]

Xzi, Diem, Striker in Return for Ans Back and Pine Back

[earnest leaf]

only one person truly hard widow diffed ans

[tawdry hamlet]

So sad trade

[next mesa]

Also Ans only had like

xzi

[earnest leaf]

it was the one and only chad BabyBay

[next mesa]

and like what

birdring

[willow tartan]

not worth trade:(

[willow tartan]

KSP

[mortal abyss]

carpe? though they werent on mirror picks a lot when shock and fusion played

[next mesa]

oh yeah

carpe

[hot onyx]

Uhh it was actually Paris that beat Shock in the Summer Showdown but I wish I had your memory system where I could be happy

[earnest leaf]

Shock was so fucking scary when tracer/widow was meta

because you aren't tracer diffing striker

and you weren't widow diffing ans

[next mesa]

[willow tartan]

diem just left to get milk guys

[mortal abyss]

the only team that came close was mayhem tbh

in that meta

[willow tartan]

he's at the store

[tawdry hamlet]

Carpe usually played tracer last season and Heesu did the ashe widow sombra right?

[willow tartan]

yes

[earnest leaf]

may melee when ashe/tracer was meta yea

[tawdry hamlet]

Or did carpe play sniper

[earnest leaf]

and bqb/yaki were giga chads

[hot onyx]

Depended on the meta that season

[barren quest]

How well Valiant did during that time

[hot onyx]

If it was tracer + hitscan it was Carpe tracer Heesu hs

[mortal abyss]

in double hs carpe played tracer or if it was hs + sombra then carpe would play hs and heesu sombra, a couple of times they mixed it up though

[hot onyx]

But normally it would be Carpe hs + EQO or Ivy fdps

[mortal abyss]

ivy

[hot onyx]

Another promising talent robbed by the dogshit system of the NYXL

[next mesa]

fits is built differently

[willow tartan]

is that during the final four

because fits did clap

[next mesa]

yes

[willow tartan]

dude

[hot onyx]

Heesu > Ans

[willow tartan]

playoffs profits and playofs seoul in general were scary as hell

[earnest leaf]

is that this season

[willow tartan]

no

[next mesa]

Too bad marve1 doesn't have a playoff form

[willow tartan]

s3 final 4

[hot onyx]

Mans got 3-0’d twice and still put up a better performance lmfoa

[next mesa]

nor does creative and

whatever

[willow tartan]

ans kinda got doinked on during the finals

[next mesa]

ans big nerves

[tawdry hamlet]

I think if Boston had gotten Heesu sado instead of stand1 im37 they'd be a top team rn, with the philly coach and Heesu sado to fill those roles they could be good

[willow tartan]

but he did well all season

[next mesa]

i understand

he still came in clutch in some moments

[willow tartan]

mhm

[next mesa]

for example

[earnest leaf]

Ans never truly got hard widow diffed during finals even

[next mesa]

busan 2 kills profit and tobi

won them the map unironically

[earnest leaf]

mainly was getting matched

[willow tartan]

diem had the better widow over ans though i say ans had a better ashe at that point

[tawdry hamlet]

Like imagine, Sado Gaebullssi Heesu Valentine Myunb0ng Faith

[willow tartan]

actually good?

[earnest leaf]

but usually when ans was getting matched was when shock was falling behind in that map anyways

Sado is hella overrated

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah but better than stand1 :OmegaLUL:

[next mesa]

why doesnt boston try ball

[earnest leaf]

Man is just another mid tier korean MT

[tawdry hamlet]

I need to restart discord to fix that broken emoji but it still doesn't work lmao

[next mesa]

stand1 ball is like unironically good

[hot onyx]

Bostion without a bottom 5 hs and mt

[tawdry hamlet]

Pretty much lmao

[hot onyx]

Sounds like a good team

[willow tartan]

so

[tawdry hamlet]

How much of an improvement is soon to im37

[willow tartan]

who is currently the best widow in the world

ik we havent seen much widow

[next mesa]

hard to say

[willow tartan]

and i hope that we will get more widow during countdown cup

[next mesa]

Ans probably

[hot onyx]

For tracer, massive. For general hs idk how good he stayed for that role

[tawdry hamlet]

From the widow we've seen so far this season tbh I'd say carpe because that Shanghai fusion may melee was insane

[willow tartan]

ok yeah

carpe kinda was cracked during that

[tawdry hamlet]

But lip had moments

[hot onyx]

Carpe washed

[tawdry hamlet]

So did glister and gwangboong

[hot onyx]

Carpe was the best widow

[earnest leaf]

lmao when glister felt himself and just started perma flanking dallas as widow

[hot onyx]

Now it’s Dalton time

[tawdry hamlet]

True

[hot onyx]

Just imagine

[tawdry hamlet]

Logix off the bench when?!?!?!

I like how Logix is double benched now lmao

He was single benched before now he's double benched

[next mesa]

Gwangboong is very good at widow actually

[hot onyx]

The whole play ins tournament is made inter regional

[next mesa]

like hes very good at dueling

[hot onyx]

And in the first match

[next mesa]

like the opposite of kai

[hot onyx]

We get the legendary widow matchup of the century

Dalton

Vs

Kariv

[tawdry hamlet]

I find aspire to be kind of like wub in the way he's all around solid flex but not s s tier

I like aspire

[willow tartan]

aspire is like a mini leave

[hot onyx]

Sp9rk1e is the new EQO

[next mesa]

wrong

eqo radiates no fuck energy

[hot onyx]

Making an absolutely absurd play in a tournament game and it counts for nothing because they lose the map anyway

[tawdry hamlet]

Eqo and Ivy were both top 5 flexes last year and now they're dead 😭

[next mesa]

eqo was top 5 flex?

[willow tartan]

yes

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-press-la-noire-gif-18717264

[hot onyx]

Ok hang on

[willow tartan]

he was very good

top 5 maybe a stretch

[hot onyx]

Literal season 1 Fusion fan

[willow tartan]

but he was still cracked gaming

[hot onyx]

And it’s a stretch to call EQO top 5 fdps in season 1

At his peak

[willow tartan]

not season 1

last year

[hot onyx]

No I know

[next mesa]

he had 1 exceptional summer showdown performance but nothing else

like he got replaced by ivy for genji too in countdown cup

[willow tartan]

i only remember him playing in the summer showdown ngl...

[hot onyx]

I’m saying if it’s a stretch to call him too 5 in season 1 how tf would he be top 5 season 3?

[willow tartan]

i think thats the only time he came in

[tawdry hamlet]

Luigi always hyped up eqo back then iirc

[hot onyx]

He also played the echo when she first came out

And was one of the best

[willow tartan]

o yea

[tawdry hamlet]

Apply played a game of echo and 3 maps of brig his whole valiant career 😭

They had shax ksp ksf lmao

Dreamer Shax ksp ksf lastro rain

McGravy just exists

[noble nexus]

I loved valiant last season

[tawdry hamlet]

But the rest pretty good

Packing10 and a bunch of na players goin big

[noble nexus]

probably like one of my top 3 fav teams

[willow tartan]

i just liked to watch ksp play

ksp birdring bqb

me likey good shooty

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean back then it felt like wow how did packing10 do so good with that roster but tbh looking back ksp shax in ashe tracer widow metas and a slightly above average backline in lastro rain and a mid tier tank in dreamer I can see the top 5

Like that's actually a better roster than I remember I mean

Back then it felt weak and the underdog team but by s4 standards they'd probably be better than Toronto lmao

[willow tartan]

ksp shax in an ashe tracer meta

[next mesa]

they couldve been better if mcgravy's sig didnt suck

[willow tartan]

yummy

[next mesa]

said by mcgravy himself btw

[willow tartan]

yeah wtf happened to mcgravy

[hot onyx]

Assuming we clone all the other players

[tawdry hamlet]

McGravy is a dva one trick 😭

[hot onyx]

Probably rate Valiant above NYXL

[earnest leaf]

I think he rated himself like c tier on a OT tier list he was making

[next mesa]

okay guys would you rather have 2 fletas 2 profits or 2 leaves

[willow tartan]

2 leaves since leave can hitscan

[hot onyx]

Leaves

Hs

Damn it Dragons man

[willow tartan]

now if you were giving the option though, I would take 2 LIPs.

[next mesa]

looks like u guys have never seen s1 and s2 fleta

[hot onyx]

Let me have a unique opinion

[earnest leaf]

Let's be honest

[willow tartan]

I have seen fleta on the cree this season. It is enough.

[earnest leaf]

no one gives a fuck about s1 OWL

[hot onyx]

Looks like you’ve never seen season 1 TviQ

[earnest leaf]

xqc was considered a top tier Mt in s1

[next mesa]

Fleta has a top cree soldier and widow

[earnest leaf]

just think about that

[next mesa]

no he wasnt

best it was like

[willow tartan]

its pointless to compare players across seasons

[next mesa]

"potential to be top 5"

[hot onyx]

So was Muma

[next mesa]

except fleta still does

I mean

kings row clutch

[earnest leaf]

god imagine

[next mesa]

just be that way

[plush grail]

Shut up sans

[willow tartan]

but yes

[next mesa]

also profit can hitscan as well

[hot onyx]

And best s1 mt’s consisted of Gesture Mano Fissure and Fate

[earnest leaf]

the skill of like any top 5 team atm, and put them into S1

[next mesa]

one of the best ashes

[willow tartan]

i'd rate leave's hitscan over profit's hitscan

but also i havent seen much profit hs

[next mesa]

fair

[hot onyx]

Fuck you, Ingerland has human rights

[willow tartan]

but as i was saying

i would take 2 LIPs over 2 leaves or 2 fletas or 2 profits

[plush grail]

Are u british

Wait fuck yeah u are

[next mesa]

Lip cant really flex

[hot onyx]

Sadly

[plush grail]

I remember u using the word nan

[willow tartan]

yes but i would coom over LIP widow and LIP ashe at the same time

[plush grail]

HAHAAHAH HOLY SHIT HE'S BRITISH AND A FUSION FAN

[earnest leaf]

that is very tragic

[next mesa]

yea fair

[hot onyx]

Time for Luigi to use the Euro Finals as an insult in 3

2

[willow tartan]

besides

[hot onyx]

1

[willow tartan]

LIP tracer was good

[next mesa]

also fits is so underratedbly (not a word) flexible

[noble nexus]

haha yeah imagine being british

fuckin weird tbh

[next mesa]

profits most flexible duo

[willow tartan]

yea

[next mesa]

theres no 2 hero combination that they cant play

[willow tartan]

tracer echo

[hot onyx]

Dude I want to change my ethnicity

[willow tartan]

wait

[plush grail]

Sans england came 2nd

[next mesa]

fits can tracer

[plush grail]

Just like fusion

[willow tartan]

does fits play

o

[plush grail]

Every year

[willow tartan]

he does

[noble nexus]

lmfao

[willow tartan]

uhh

[next mesa]

yea he did play it

[willow tartan]

let me try again...

[hot onyx]

Andiamo Italia stfu

[next mesa]

yes welcome

feel free

[willow tartan]

uhm

what would actually be a legitimate comp that they cant urn

im tyring to think

[next mesa]

imagine profits but on a good team

I coom

[plush grail]

SBB > profit

[next mesa]

damn why he no play then

[plush grail]

Too busy fighting ccp

[willow tartan]

have we seen

profits sym mei?

[next mesa]

yes

fits plays sym

[willow tartan]

when did they run rush

[next mesa]

they kinda got fucked by leejaegon though

[willow tartan]

o

[next mesa]

LOL

[willow tartan]

that match

no wonder i forgot about what the teams were doing

[next mesa]

seoul just has no plan B

[willow tartan]

plan b is gesture hog

[next mesa]

like fleta said

like if seoul plays what they prepared

its pog

[willow tartan]

uhmmm what aboutttt

[next mesa]

but no adaptibility

yes

[willow tartan]

do either of them play junkrat?

[next mesa]

profit

[willow tartan]

man this is hard

[next mesa]

wait wait

I think I got one

[hot onyx]

Krystal > Onigod

[next mesa]

a junkrat pharah meta

maybe?

[willow tartan]

how in the world would that ever be meta

in what alternate reality

[plush grail]

Onigod is hot

[next mesa]

we're brainstorming like potential comps that they cant play

all of them

[willow tartan]

torb reaper

[plush grail]

Pharah is not meta unless Chengdu decides she is

[next mesa]

fits can reaper

torb profit

[willow tartan]

profit torb 2nd best in the league

[hot onyx]

Unlike your girlfriend

[next mesa]

behind carpe of course

[willow tartan]

yeah

fleta 3rd and valentine's turret 4th

[jovial leaf]

mei pharah could be intresting

[plush grail]

London Spitfire

Is that your team??

[willow tartan]

what about hackfist?

wait

[plush grail]

show some pride man support your local team

[next mesa]

profit can doom

[hot onyx]

Literally not a London fan and almost cried at the 2018 grand finals

[willow tartan]

i dont think ive seen profit play doom this season

but probs can do it well

[next mesa]

yeah

[hot onyx]

More British rep on Fusion than Spitfire

[next mesa]

he does not doom like almost at all

he did pull it out in apex though basically counts

[hot onyx]

But I don’t support for the British rep it’s jus a nice bonus

[plush grail]

Sadly poko is on fusion

[willow tartan]

uhhhm....

[plush grail]

Fusion shitting the bed and paris over performing

Pog

[willow tartan]

symmetra sombra

[next mesa]

i bet profit can sym

[willow tartan]

yeah

[next mesa]

has he?

[willow tartan]

not too difficult to pick up i would imagine

[next mesa]

idk

[willow tartan]

to be honest

both of them are too intelligent as players

[plush grail]

Who is more flexible, profit or Naga

[next mesa]

profit

[plush grail]

You sure because I'm pretty sure Naga has played every dps except for like 2/3

[willow tartan]

you could put profit on tank if you want and id imagine he would do good

(with practice of course)

[plush grail]

That's a dumb statement

Using your logic I could MTD fearless

(with practice of course)

[willow tartan]

no i am saying

that

given time to prepare

i think that profit is a good enough player to adapt to a different role fairly well

[plush grail]

Profit isn't Batman

He has his limits

[willow tartan]

checkmate did

[noble nexus]

profit doesn't have limits

he's a being of immense power

[plush grail]

But can he beat Goku

[willow tartan]

superman would wipe his ass with goku and if you think otherwise youre stupid

[next mesa]

doubt

Goku limitless as well

also yes I agree

[plush grail]

Ah yes esports discussion

[next mesa]

Profit has no limits

its like

Leave has a nice ball

Its actually a tragedy

that role queue limits the flexibility of these players

[plush grail]

I can beat up profit irl

He has a limit

[chilly jolt]

has anyone been randomly getting OWL tokens out of nowhere?

[next mesa]

u cant nobody can beat profit

not to mention he'll roll up with gesture and just roll u

[willow tartan]

ive been randomly NOT getting my fucking owl tokens

[chilly jolt]

there hasn't been a match since liek midnight yesterday and i got my tokens for that match

but now they are just popping up like crazy idk how

but i'll take it

[willow tartan]

don asking the real questions

[hot onyx]

Titans representing the peak of NA Contendies

[willow tartan]

o7

paris is EU contenders

[hot onyx]

New York is South America contenders

Because they might as well not exist

[willow tartan]

chengdu and valiant representing CN

[hollow river]

why are the games scheduled in such times

[willow tartan]

to make it available to watch for everyone

by everyone I mean NA and East Asia

[next mesa]

Titans unironically drop all their players and sign all of AT +aspire

[earnest leaf]

keep teru

[wicked pendant]

Oh. Huh.

I somehow had it in my head that Match 5 would be tomorrow.

[willow tartan]

Nah, finals are always alone

that's why they had the preshow shenanigans last time with the Widowmaker 1v1

[crystal kite]

I keep hearing abt a dva skin is it a new one like the ana one and my game won’t update

[worn falcon]

retire all the owl players

so no more owl

[crystal kite]

Woski broski

[wintry kraken]

poor Custa

name forgotten

[dusky canopy]

Jonathan "Tactileneck" Larsson!

[gilded carbon]

are only 4 teams left?

[dusky canopy]

Yes

[gilded carbon]

o ok

okay they skittin

[supple prism]

im not familiar with the type of thing im seeing

[balmy wolf]

whats up with this tom and jerry music

[hollow river]

where's soe?

[dusty hound]

hawaii

[hollow river]

enjoying summer

is it even summer in hawaii rn ?

[fast tusk]

its always summer in hawaii

[wintry kraken]

you realize it is near equator

[balmy wolf]

atlanta should win

[wintry kraken]

that is like asking if there is winter in antarctica 😄

[fast tusk]

amen to that

[willow tartan]

dragons 3-0 hunters

or hunters 3-0 dragons

There is no in-between

[balmy wolf]

is their a lag in this stream

[wintry kraken]

The summer season stretches from May to October and winter, the cooler, wetter season, lasts from November to April. The average daytime summer temperature is 85 degrees Fahrenheit (29.4 degrees Celsius), while the average daytime winter temperature is 78 degrees Fahrenheit (25.6 degrees Celsius).

so it is hot and hotter 🤷‍♂️ 😄

[willow tartan]

Summer in different countries take place in different months

[balmy wolf]

asia summer over

[hollow river]

does not compare with were i went last week (it was 40* celius at 9am) LOL

[hollow bough]

we have no precedent for "angry" dallas

[wintry kraken]

helps that you have ocean for thousand kilometers around 🙂

[willow tartan]

angy shock >:(

[wintry kraken]

are they going to shoot birds at enemies ?

[fast tusk]

im really rooting for atlanta to win or atleast show a good performance, but i think dallas is gonna win the match

[willow tartan]

I'm rooting for Atlanta to put Kai in the game

I wanna see him play, Kai so sexi

[fast tusk]

thats a fact

[supple prism]

spongebob music?

[willow tartan]

Hawaiian music

3head

[fast tusk]

OOOOOOOooooooo

[hollow river]

his hanzo is c r a c k e d

[fast tusk]

who lives in a pineapple under the sea

[supple prism]

spongeboob squirepants

[wintry kraken]

for me, this music somehow gives Bioshock vibes 🙂

[balmy wolf]

[fast tusk]

i kinda forgot the lyrics after that

[balmy wolf]

hate monk

[fast tusk]

dragons is gonna sweep hunters, even when they looked good on dallas dragons looked better

[dreamy cave]

LETS GOOO HUNTERRS

No one plays ball better than the pandas

[willow tartan]

LIP will Sombra diff

[balmy wolf]

is she drinking empty mug

[worn hornet]

can we get Hosting 101 in paperback?

[hollow river]

dragons for the win

[ivory stag]

i thing hunters will get at least 2 maps before they lose

[hollow river]

3-1

[fast tusk]

shangai built diff

[willow tartan]

Dragons won't make this close

[candid gyro]

Shanghai are gonna win but man do I want hunters to

[willow tartan]

I believe in LIP

[worn hornet]

obviously they're both jerries, right?

[candid gyro]

Chengdu it to em

[worn hornet]

more like 5 years late tbh

[gilded carbon]

shangdu

lol

ahah

[worn hornet]

my money's on chenghai

[gilded carbon]

agreed

[candid gyro]

Crying rn

[willow tartan]

lateyoung looking like he just broke out of prison to play ow

[candid gyro]

Why no 3ps gaga cam?

[willow tartan]

They must know it's just not worth it

[candid gyro]

Malding rn

How dare they

[raw ermine]

ok lez go

oh man leave

[ivory stag]

pog

[gilded carbon]

that was

an interesting miss

on the dva

[fast tusk]

that was epic

[balmy wolf]

ll

lol

[true hound]

chad

[raw ermine]

fitzyhere move

[ember turret]

LIP IS A MAD MAN

[willow tartan]

???

literally a ranked play

[earnest leaf]

fucking chad move

[gilded carbon]

lol lip watching too much noobhunter

[raw ermine]

izayaki was hovering

[willow tartan]

LIP is such a fucking gamer

[raw ermine]

and he fell

[willow tartan]

holy shit I love LIP so much

[ember turret]

Lip's was smacking his lips for that EMP

[north relic]

this is shaping up to be a good series

[fast tusk]

omg

[balmy wolf]

brig packs amazing

[gilded carbon]

regijouhwyeirsohugerusi;gr\

this is

something

[fast tusk]

that was so much to fun

[dusty hound]

looks like we have a banger in our hands

[ember turret]

Jinmu and Yveltal wasn't expecting him to do that LMFAO

[ivory stag]

when dive is so meta that you cant even group up as a team so it appears to look like a high masters game lmao

[magic imp]

LMFAO lip

[willow tartan]

Big dick energy

[ember turret]

I'm so shock Jinmu survive that

[north relic]

zarya is lateyoung's best hero right

[wicked pendant]

Pure luck he survived it

[gilded carbon]

shanghai its too early to go to monkey comp practice

silly geese

[willow tartan]

I don't like the leave echo here, I think tracer gets more value

[ivory stag]

hunters look like they controlling the madness better but dragons just have the better picks and map placement

[raw ermine]

hm

?

[fast tusk]

what ?

[dusty hound]

i mean when wacky funny ball team goes monkey you do the same to assert dominance

[willow tartan]

Was that a fatfinger?

[gilded carbon]

yep

[balmy wolf]

that zarya

[earnest leaf]

was that a nenne grav

yeet and pray you hit the sombra

[gilded carbon]

custa moment

[willow tartan]

accident q?

[worldly flax]

zoning grav

[gilded carbon]

went to itch his face, went to touch w again and missed by a key.

[magic imp]

Fleta's been so strong this last couple days

[gilded carbon]

bruh...

😭

[willow tartan]

izayaki sleeps are tasty

[gilded carbon]

tasty sleep into his own sombra dies

[ivory stag]

lets goooo

[willow tartan]

literally cannot be closer

[magic imp]

Lateyoung flexing

[dreamy cave]

LETS GOOOO

[willow tartan]

100-99 first, 99-100 second

[wicked pendant]

This is nice.

[magic imp]

also Yveltal brig is pretty fucking good

[fast tusk]

bren thirsty

[earnest leaf]

gonna be a long night maybe

[dusty hound]

if the whole series is like this im gonna be swimming on owl tokens

[gilded carbon]

fate you buffoon

nvm tactical feed

huge brig wave

[worldly flax]

"not a striker"

[candid gyro]

If there was ever a time

Please, feedjaegon

Do your thing

[worldly flax]

https://twitter.com/bonniequeue/status/1416205337321947139?s=20 lmao

bonnie qu (@bonniequeue)

who the hell goes for stuff like this HAHAHAHAHA https://t.co/hJRsK9ptWQ

Twitter · Jul 17, 2021, 1:17 AM

[fast tusk]

OMGGGG

that read

[dusty hound]

sheeeeeesh

[worldly flax]

that cancel

[gilded carbon]

lip you silly silly goose

[true hound]

damn

[worldly flax]

[raw ermine]

yveltal cracked

[willow tartan]

LIP was kind of asking for it... EMPing next to a brig

[dusty hound]

"hey nice ult wanna see my shield?"

[fast tusk]

FLETA

[candid gyro]

FLETA

[raw ermine]

anddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[willow tartan]

lmao

[candid gyro]

Stop

[true hound]

fat stick

[raw ermine]

like that

[candid gyro]

I beg of you

[raw ermine]

he gives it up

[willow tartan]

dude this happened the last game and the game before that

[balmy wolf]

fleta is meta bro

[willow tartan]

Whenever LIP fucks up, fleta says "shit I gotta carry now"

[gilded carbon]

izayaki moment

[true hound]

lmao my man walked into them

[gilded carbon]

most izayaki play ever to izayaki

[willow tartan]

bro izayaki you're not playing against NYXL anymore

[gilded carbon]

lul

[willow tartan]

LIP emp let's go

Just Better ™️

[fast tusk]

oh my fucking god

[worldly flax]

another 99-100

[ivory stag]

this isnt aging well for how close it's been so far

[candid gyro]

:Cryy:

[willow tartan]

we will see

[fast tusk]

i had so much more fun watching this then i do watching any na match holy shit

[willow tartan]

Control maps tend to be the closest

[fast tusk]

ive been missiing out so much

[wicked pendant]

Damn, bro. That last Pulse on Izayaki got me to sit straight up

[dusty hound]

torb in his summer skin dancing to Hawaiian music is a blessed image

[willow tartan]

leave tracer fricks crap up

[humble yarrow]

Soe looking like a hot tub streamer rn ngl

[ivory stag]

and i dont mind one bit

[willow tartan]

She's too clothed for that, let's be real.

[fast tusk]

the old man in the background

[willow tartan]

what?

taking a walk on the beach bro

[fast tusk]

he was lookin at soe, sus

[wicked pendant]

I'm jealous of that beach. It looks so good.

Look at that water

[upper niche]

The funny thing about these intermission clips is that they had to actually have Soe go out on to all these locations and film 5+ minute rolls of her doing nothing but staring at stuff.

[willow tartan]

water looks like water to me dawg

[ivory stag]

just think that could be us but we all sitting in a dark musty room watching owl on a pc thats meant to run a game five times better than plants vs zombies

no? just me

?

[upper niche]

Like, just film 10 minutes of her being buried in the sand.

[willow tartan]

Just you.

Lmao you think I want to go to the beach?

[upper niche]

Or 10 minutes of sitting on a boat trying to stop her hat blowing away

[humble yarrow]

At least she looks good doing it

[willow tartan]

I don't like sand. It's rough, course, and irritating- and it gets everywhere.

[fast tusk]

was it like this in every other match in apac

[tawdry hamlet]

[ivory stag]

truuu lol i hate being in water or wet only time im okay with it is hottub or shower lol

[upper niche]

When I went to Hawaii I was looking for things to do and they were trying to convince me that the beach is this awesome magical place and it's like "Dude, I'm from Australia. We have beaches".

[willow tartan]

apac matches be like

[humble yarrow]

Chunky man

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't understand beach hype lmao it just sand and water

[fast tusk]

wow, if so then i missed out on so much

[willow tartan]

It's watery sand

[earnest leaf]

beaches are nice

[tawdry hamlet]

id probably have more fun at a hotel pool lmaoo

[wicked pendant]

I love going in the water, dudes.

[earnest leaf]

It's fun to walk along the ocean early in the morning

[willow tartan]

I do

Pools > Beaches

The cleanup is a lot more fun at the pool than the beach.

[upper niche]

I hadn't been in water for at least 15 years when I was there, maybe even 20 - jumped in the ocean and was doing laps in no time. It's incredible seeing how many people around aren't taught to swim as kids.

[wicked pendant]

A good beach over any pool except maybe a sick wave pool.

[fast tusk]

also does anyone know what the next hero pools are gonna be next month ?

[willow tartan]

We don't know

[earnest leaf]

we don't know yet

[willow tartan]

Not released yet

[upper niche]

Hanuama bay was pretty cool. The reef was dead as, but there are at least fish.

[fast tusk]

mm

[north relic]

dva is almost a guarantee

[wicked pendant]

They usually whip it out after the finals.

[willow tartan]

Hanamura has a beach???

[earnest leaf]

I think we'll learn a week before the games start, but players learn earlier

[fast tusk]

pls dva ban

[balmy wolf]

2cp eww

[upper niche]

You idiot 😄

[ivory stag]

dva tracer sombra lol

[wicked pendant]

Leave Echo ewww but also sensible I guess

[upper niche]

Yes, Hanamura Bay lol

[north relic]

tracer sombra isnt possible

since they have already been picked

[ivory stag]

dva echo ana

[dusty hound]

they cant ban the same heroes in a row so tracer and sombra are here to stay

[upper niche]

What tank was banned last time?

[north relic]

rein

[dusty hound]

rein

[upper niche]

Hoping for a Dva Genji Doomfist ban, but I dont think they're in the top used.

Well, Dva certainly is, but the others

[ivory stag]

just make it 5 bastions one brig for a season lol

[upper niche]

Imagine Sym got banned.

[north relic]

dva is around 80% pickrate

[upper niche]

51

[ivory stag]

sym wouldnt be crazy she only big on 2cp most time

[north relic]

last time i checked she was stupid high

[upper niche]

Her total time used was very low so she won't be in the top 5 eligible for removal

[candid gyro]

Please, 2cp, work your magic

[upper niche]

Even though she's had huge impact in the few minutes she gets use.

[dusty hound]

they banned based on play time son in tanks are winston/dva, dps; echo, reaper and i don remember who else, support: lucio, moira, ana

[ember turret]

Yo monk just got jumped

[ivory stag]

just dont pick hanamura lol

[supple prism]

dva, pharah, tracer, ana ban?

[upper niche]

Ana would be rough.

Likely. But rough.

[ivory stag]

we all want dva but watch it will be monke

[supple prism]

what was the last bans?

[candid gyro]

GAGA CAM

JUST REALISED

[upper niche]

Rein Sombra something Mercy wasnt it?

[barren quest]

Reaper guy

[ivory stag]

zenn

i think

[upper niche]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1392873103521423369

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

A new month, a new Joust... and a new #OWL2021 meta.

Hero Pools are back! Check out who's on the chopping block. 🪓 https://t.co/CB5T7diVYd

Retweets

391

Likes

4566

Twitter · May 13, 2021, 4:03 PM

[ember turret]

Rein, Sombra, Tracer and Zen

[candid gyro]

Just get rid of dva and I'm happy

[supple prism]

oh, does the previous bans impact the next bans?

[ivory stag]

leave kinda crazy on tracer and echo

[quaint aurora]

Leave mvp

[willow tartan]

Just 2cp things

[candid gyro]

Please

2cp

Work your magic

[upper niche]

haha, spotted on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattMersel/status/1416205466649063427/photo/1

BackpackMatt 🦉 (@MattMersel)

https://t.co/j5CMbM9BPT

Likes

355

Twitter · Jul 17, 2021, 1:17 AM

[north relic]

beyblade

[willow tartan]

finally they cap

[balmy wolf]

reaper was good

ezy clean up

[willow tartan]

Reaper ULT for finishing targets so they don't get 2cpd

[humble yarrow]

Now dallas has to do this

[candid gyro]

Shanghai are gonna win but I'm really rooting for hunters

[willow tartan]

Shanghai 3-0 😎

I'm believer

[worn falcon]

jesus void

[humble yarrow]

I have a wierd hunch that Hunters are gonna get 3rd in the summer showdown

[candid gyro]

I think 2nd

[dusty hound]

second is more likely

[humble yarrow]

I think dallas is gonna beat Atlanta and then learn from the first time and best hunters

That is if hunter loose here

[ivory stag]

oh this gonna be gg not feeling hunters comp

[worn falcon]

to think Fate was with early valiant

now he is a chad

[quaint aurora]

I’d watch apac more if it wasn’t at awkward times for me

[candid gyro]

I'm a massive fan of genji getting play

[quaint aurora]

Because damn NA sucks

[humble yarrow]

Apac is at 4am for me

I ain't waking up for that

[quaint aurora]

Apac is the only place where you can see a genji playing and winning

Ah sibal

[balmy wolf]

RIP BLADE

[humble yarrow]

Sparkle genji

[quaint aurora]

The blade was okay

[dusty hound]

they got a whole month to figure out a ball counter after june joust just find a counter in a day is way to unlikely

[quaint aurora]

We don’t talk about that

[humble yarrow]

Too late

[candid gyro]

Fearless honestly has PTSD from that

[quaint aurora]

Never too late

[humble yarrow]

Yes it is

[quaint aurora]

Poor fearless

He couldn’t do shit

Bruh wtf was that nano

[humble yarrow]

Bad nano

[candid gyro]

??

[quaint aurora]

Both had nanos

[humble yarrow]

Mmonk is masters?

[quaint aurora]

Bad*

[humble yarrow]

He be looking masters rn

[willow tartan]

limp EMP strikes again

[humble yarrow]

Limp

Lol

[ivory stag]

surprises my that OW didnt make it to where you dont gain ult charge while hacked

[worn falcon]

fleta

[quaint aurora]

That would make emp even better

[ivory stag]

i know and i know its already busted but it would make more sense in regards to that abil

just make emp radius smaller?

[dusty hound]

you only gain the passive but if you deal dmg while hacked you dont get ult

[quaint aurora]

It’s still good

This hurts to watch

[supple prism]

i dont think it makes more sense

[quaint aurora]

On 2cp you can just sp

Awncamp

[next mesa]

feel like leave should go echo here

idk

[quaint aurora]

And still have another free touch

[quaint aurora]

He is

[next mesa]

o

I am like 1 min behind

mb

[quaint aurora]

Oh okay

But yeah this hurts to watch

Drawable

[worn falcon]

holy chengdu

they had it

[quaint aurora]

Hopium

[humble yarrow]

They had it multiple times

[quaint aurora]

Ahhhh

Unlucky

[balmy wolf]

zarya tried bro

[quaint aurora]

They’re on a live stage?

[tawdry hamlet]

wouldn't you know it, when the best roster in the world stops trolling, they win all the time

[lilac kestrel]

the dragons are so dominant

really showing dallas how to counter this brig zen

i hadnt watched them all summer showdown and they dont dissapoint

[humble yarrow]

It's looking like shock isn't gonna win this one

[tawdry hamlet]

as much as I miss diem I don't see this version of shanghai existing if they hadn't streamlined their roster, because when they kept not being able to decide between diem and lip they kept dropping maps

[humble yarrow]

So many more dominant teams

[hollow bough]

yt chat thinks that was a c9

[lilac kestrel]

shock has time to pull it out the bag

but they wont

[humble yarrow]

They get 4th in countdown cup max

[lilac kestrel]

they need the 3 peat and even then this isnt considered shock's year

[humble yarrow]

It's an apac year

[dusty hound]

those are a nice looking logos

[worn falcon]

At least Dallas is much better than when a few were in Paris and than previous seasons

Including streamer season

[humble yarrow]

Who are there people again?

[worn falcon]

Just fans

[north relic]

everything is a c9 to yt chat

[humble yarrow]

Oh ok

Why do so many people simp for soe? It's popping up alot on the YouTube chat.

[worn falcon]

Carl still appearing i see

[tawdry hamlet]

because young people unfortunately have access to a yt chat

guys I called a female sexy and got my message deleted by mods im funny as fuck

[fast tusk]

why do they keep showing us that stupid carl drawing, just move on from it god fucking damm

[humble yarrow]

I hate it

So much

[hollow bough]

funny joke

that's all it is

[worn falcon]

Because is the superior draw

[humble yarrow]

It's only up there bc a caster drew it

[willow tartan]

You don't like Carl?

[lilac kestrel]

who is excited for hunters fuel rematch

[hollow bough]

Carl haters BTFO

[fast tusk]

it was funny when it first showed but now its just annoying

[humble yarrow]

Me

[slow lodge]

yo

is there a link to OWL music

cause it's so good

[lilac kestrel]

fallout NV vibes

[willow tartan]

Damn bro didn't know a still image of a drawing could be annoying 😎

[slow lodge]

and I need the Dorado remix too

[willow tartan]

Carl for life

[humble yarrow]

Haroeris is a God skin change my mind

[hollow bough]

dont need to

[fast tusk]

someone in yt chat said nerf shangai

[humble yarrow]

Smh my head

[hollow bough]

I wish I had a dorado remix but

I know that the hawaiian break music is "Hawaiian Lullaby" by tropical cafe society

[north relic]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYexv1BYLCoOaM4MEJy32bIB13rWUrDGV

[hollow bough]

well, shit

nice

[humble yarrow]

Yo

Fleta

Chill out

[fast tusk]

i like these zoomed in shots they have

[novel owl]

gaga facecam

[slow lodge]

thanks

[hollow bough]

gaga looks so weird lol

every time his facecam is on

[novel owl]

he looks like lady gaga

[ivory stag]

leave tracer > fleta tracer

[humble yarrow]

Has leave always been on the hunters?

[supple prism]

always? no

[humble yarrow]

What team was he on previously

[supple prism]

not a OWL team

[humble yarrow]

An*

[supple prism]

was in Overwatch World Cup 2018 and 2017

[humble yarrow]

Oh ok

[fast tusk]

the c9

[humble yarrow]

Everything is a c9

[hollow bough]

that was a real c9

[humble yarrow]

Yea ik

But in ow

[ivory stag]

how long has it been since cloud 9s team been gone?

[humble yarrow]

Every cap is a c9

[fast tusk]

cheng9

[gilded carbon]

not a real c9 if the dont win the fight 😐

[worn falcon]

Chengdu needs some leadership, they're a mess

[hollow bough]

I like that sombra spot

[fast tusk]

the c9 again

[humble yarrow]

C9

[severe tusk]

the c9? again?

[humble yarrow]

Not really a c9

[candid gyro]

C9 amiright

[severe tusk]

not c9

[humble yarrow]

Kinda a c9

[worn falcon]

Not c9

[humble yarrow]

But not reallu

[severe tusk]

but gaga coulda kinda stayed on cart

[willow tartan]

that's what we call a "forgot to fucking touch point" moment

[candid gyro]

Every single cap is a c9

[fast tusk]

whats a c9?

[severe tusk]

not a c9, but a half c9

[willow tartan]

C9 is where a team wins a fight but forgets about the objective and loses because of it

[severe tusk]

formally, when a team chases after players off the objective, losing the fight due to it

[worn falcon]

C9 is when you have the point but you left overtime

[fast tusk]

i was joking

[humble yarrow]

Bro

[north relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlI24U4wshU

[humble yarrow]

Gaga

[raw ermine]

fucking legend

[north relic]

a lot more fuel's than expected

[candid gyro]

Twitch chat thinks c9 is whenever you leave the point for any reason

[fast tusk]

atlanta 1st ??????

[willow tartan]

twitch chat?...

what's twitch

[candid gyro]

YouTube

My bad

[humble yarrow]

Jon is a legend

So is Karon

[north relic]

jon the meme

[humble yarrow]

Karson

[worthy tinsel]

putting shd 4th is just dumb, not even a hot take lmao

[humble yarrow]

Nice bash

[severe tusk]

yveltal

ilios too

[humble yarrow]

Mvp canadate?

Hunters are gonna take this map

[tawdry hamlet]

iziyaki existed

[supple prism]

or?

[raw ermine]

Izayaki
zayaki
ayaki
yaki

[worn falcon]

At least Chengdu is playing way better than Atlanta lol

[severe tusk]

holy fucking leave

[worn falcon]

Some mistakes with call outs here and theee

[north relic]

would you guys say chengdu is the 2nd best team rn

[tawdry hamlet]

chengdu has played into comps like these before and they have leave

[worn hornet]

I'm questioning that primal

[severe tusk]

lowkey depends on the meta

[hollow bough]

Funny LIP emp

catches 1 person

[humble yarrow]

Quite silly

[worn falcon]

Hail Chengdu

[polar dirge]

These casters are so good

[severe tusk]

caught 2

:(

[severe tusk]

bren/sideshow, achillos/AVRL, uber/mrx are so good

[worn falcon]

Wait for uberx

[hollow bough]

I hope uberx casts the grand final

[raw ermine]

uberx best duo

[severe tusk]

uberx is incredibly hype and uber's wordplay is best in class, but bren/sideshow have such great analysis i think

[hollow bough]

Very true

Absolutely correct

They tie #1 duo for me

[severe tusk]

and i love AVRL for the same reason, he's an amazing analyst and points out really small things in the game

[earnest leaf]

Bren/sideshow have gotten a lot better as a caster duo

[severe tusk]

^^ this year they've been hitting their stride

[earnest leaf]

They were never bad but they definitely are much more comfortable now

[severe tusk]

last year they were #2 duo, this year they're tied #1 in my books

[magic imp]

JINMU

goat

[fast tusk]

that was so good

[worn falcon]

I chuckle a bit when i heard "oh my goodness" every time

[hollow bough]

Lip is both the best and worst sombra ive ever seen

[worn hornet]

god tier shot calling

[humble yarrow]

Crisp

[raw ermine]

wow

[severe tusk]

that lip/izayaki play

[raw ermine]

thats the map

[severe tusk]

hoooly

[earnest leaf]

Lip is really fucking good at sombra in the neutral

[severe tusk]

nah, we'll see

SHD have <1min

[earnest leaf]

his emps are a coin flip though

[lilac kestrel]

i think SHD is the peak of all ow ever rn

[earnest leaf]

peak goats >

[severe tusk]

shock 2019 goats was amazing tho

[humble yarrow]

Jinmu is playing checkers while lip is playing chess

[lilac kestrel]

as good, if not better than s2 shock

[hollow bough]

They've been really dominant

[magic imp]

Also chengdu is strangely good at eichenwald defense sometimes

[lilac kestrel]

i legit think this brig zen is harder to play than goats

[forest raven]

Leave and Izayaki are unhinged freaks

[magic imp]

yeah no shit it is

[worn hornet]

I'd believe it

[severe tusk]

at the level SHD are playing at yes

[earnest leaf]

Most pros have said goats was really hard to play

[magic imp]

in goats when morons take damage it benefits the team by charging the support ults

[supple prism]

nah, in a time where everyone was playing the same comp, Shock was rolling everyone

[earnest leaf]

There is a reason pretty much only two teams were really good at it

[severe tusk]

but nobody else is playing the comp to their level

so we don't really know if they're pushing the comp as far as they can

[lilac kestrel]

its coz it lasted so long, everyone played so optimally that a brig pack misplaced would lose a fight

[worn falcon]

Goats was so many micro stuff

It's just that brig

It was the whole setup

[severe tusk]

when shock played goats and was definitively the best at that comp, there was more competition if u get what i mean

[worn falcon]

One mistake would make them lose

A small one

[earnest leaf]

Goats as a whole was probably the hardest comp to play and play perfectly

[severe tusk]

we don't know how NA teams would do if they were in APAC

[lilac kestrel]

i guess i think so because this meta is alot more mechanically impressive as well as having insane comms

[earnest leaf]

apac is a coinflip of skill outside of valiant and shd

[worn falcon]

Also that season was before the teams were NA and APAC

[ivory stag]

lets go

[worn hornet]

[magic imp]

Told u

[worn falcon]

Chengdu poggers

[quaint aurora]

Reverse sweep

[magic imp]

CHengdu and eichenwald first point defense

[severe tusk]

yessir

[worn falcon]

They're a coinflip too

Sometimes they are a mess

[worn hornet]

we saying this A defense is formally the Chengdu Zone?

[worn falcon]

Sometimes are solid af

[lilac kestrel]

god, i just wanted to go to sleep

alas

[candid gyro]

Reverse sweep, give me

[lilac kestrel]

please no

[earnest leaf]

no sleep, map 5 mofo

[severe tusk]

it was mainly just leave popping off even harder than fleta

[magic imp]

Leave fucking clapped seoul on it the other week

and they've won it a lot all season

[severe tusk]

i think what makes this meta different to goats is that the best teams have not only incredible coordination but also mechanical skill

even if you outcoordinate the other team, they can still have a DPS pop off

[lilac kestrel]

has anyone mentioned Iziyaki for MVP? i hear fearless and leave alot but he has to be a contender

[humble yarrow]

That's a nice tat

[fast tusk]

b o o b is

[worn hornet]

This must be the "my preds were all wrong" break sequence

[worn falcon]

I think Chengdu needs to improve support and call outs maybe, some coordination

[polar dirge]

These games are so nice to watch