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#esports-discussion
forest raven
green dust
Okay good lmao
tawdry hamlet
barrage bomb synergy and the res lmao
literally like 5 things in a row that atlanta couldn't stop because they fall right into it
balmy wolf
duh
tawdry hamlet
Moon must have found the good kush and not the weird shit he had round one last month
green dust
LOL
balmy wolf
fleta is Carcrked
forest raven
Thank you Atlanta for padding Shanghai's stats 
ivory stag
fleta is Carcrked
meh its pharmacy
stuck radish
and hopefully they reuse the part where shock wins the grand finals
barren quest
mm yes lets play standard rush against ball dva pharah mercy
So brawl is bad against that comp?
balmy wolf
So brawl is bad against that comp?
id say so
raw ermine
I feel like hawk is gonna retire soon
forest raven
Guys
stuck radish
the pharah?
devout path
So brawl is bad against that comp?
not necessarily
forest raven
SHANGHAI DRAGONS IS .500
stuck radish
this looks like a ranked game
worn falcon
Bro
stuck radish
with shanghai being the enemy team
upper niche
lol, 'ZP and Hex back in the day'. Back in the day?! It was last year!
worn falcon
Shd is just spawncamping them
upper niche
Wait Shanghai are doing this with Zen Brig heals?!
devout path
who needs heals on shanghai
raw ermine
gg
upper niche
ahahahahahaa Frontline Josh Zen
worn falcon
See izayaki
worthy void
3-0 LOL
hollow bough
These micro resets are insane
raw ermine
It's not coming home AGAIN
tawdry hamlet
expected 
stuck radish
good
forest raven
stuck radish
screw atlanta
worn falcon
What a spawn camp
tropic herald
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
worn falcon
So
earnest leaf
where's the atlanta fan
devout path
they capped 1 point
earnest leaf
someone see if he's doing ok
balmy wolf
holy shit that was a beatdown
forest raven
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DRAGONS HAD ZERO RESPECT FOR ATLANTA 
devout path
@balmy wolf rip
stuck radish
now atlanta fight dallas
fast tusk
atlanta was just unlucky
tropic herald
says "fan of pelican"
i like pelican
worn falcon
Says SFS fan
earnest leaf
name change to "fan of leaveORfleta" in 3...2....1
worn falcon
Smh
tropic herald
but im also a major shanghai fan
hollow bough
you can still like a player of a team
devout path
leave so insane tho
worn falcon
I am just certified sbb simp
hollow bough
no you can only be a fan of ONE team you cant be a fan of anyone but ONE team thats ALL you get
forest raven
Izayaki was literally frontlining on zen against a mccree with his cooldowns up at the very end
The level of disrespect required to do that
balmy wolf
ball best MT
worn falcon
Fleta is meta
stuck radish
16.2 final blows per 10
tropic herald
name change to "fan of leaveORfleta" in 3...2....1
.
tawdry hamlet
expected regardless of travel or not, although if they had only been in hawaii for less than 24 hours 
devout path
fleta deadlift
dreamy cave
no you can only be a fan of ONE team you cant be a fan of anyone but ONE team th...
I'm not too sure about that one cheif
stuck radish
thats all the matches today right
forest raven
Ye
hollow bough
thats all the matches today right
yeah
hollow bough
I'm not too sure about that one cheif
irony
balmy wolf
its been a while since we've seen a sweep like that
dreamy cave
I live in Atlanta. But I was a nyxl fan since 2018. And neither are doing super hot apparently
hollow bough
Atlanta has been doing well this season
tawdry hamlet
I just hate the smugness of people when the underdog loses like tf you think was gonna happen lmao
dreamy cave
True. And I am a fan of both
tawdry hamlet
like shock vs seoul lmao
stuck radish
I just hate the smugness of people when the underdog loses like tf you think was...
i just hate atlanta
tawdry hamlet
nobody thought seoul would win but it was a meme to hopium and shock fans were like "seoul simps where you at" as if they didn't have literally the best roster in the world lmao
fast tusk
why ?
forest raven
I just hate the smugness of people when the underdog loses like tf you think was...
It's fun making fun of the people that thought Atlanta would win
hollow bough
lol
tawdry hamlet
but nobody thought that genuinely
forest raven
Especially when so many people from NA don't watch APAC games
dreamy cave
No one ever thinks Atlanta will win. They just hope. Big difference.
hollow bough
apac is on a crazy level
tawdry hamlet
like show me one person that wasn't just hopium for their team and genuinely believed atlanta was better lmao
hollow bough
I like watching apac, games are just on a much crazier, faster paced level imo
Most teams anyway
tropic herald
i hate people who dont watch a second of apac and then just talk like they know what goes on there
tawdry hamlet
I watch the na games live and the apac games live
hollow bough
same here
balmy wolf
apac has a lot more dive and ball comps compared to NA
dreamy cave
No offense, but fuck this interview.
tawdry hamlet
I don't think the NA sucks or APAC sucks takes are valid either way because outside of two teams the middle is completely evenly matched like Seoul vs Glads, Spark vs Houston etc.
forest raven
No offense, but fuck this interview.
hollow bough
No offense, but fuck this interview.
why
tawdry hamlet
like nyxl spark seoul could face most of na mid and be competitive
fervent acorn
casually walking behind
hollow bough
i saw that lol
fervent acorn
na production chroma key
forest raven
The Los Angeles Valiant performed better against the Dragons than Atlanta did 
tawdry hamlet
the valiant didn't face a pharah comp that nobody was expecting in fairness
they faced the regular apac comp everyone in apac was running
forest raven
Michael
tawdry hamlet
so they had prep time
forest raven
You're gonna make me post the copium
tawdry hamlet
ok Valiant, arrives in hawaii less than 24 hours before their match, runs normal comp into shanghai today, and does better than atlanta? 
forest raven
Yes 
tawdry hamlet
forest raven
dreamy cave
I just wanted them to put up more of a fight. They didn't have to fall over n die.
tawdry hamlet
all the teams that keep trying to force bunker style comps have lost those games lmao
atlanta this tourney
shanghai last time
tawdry hamlet
gladiators
forest raven
Unforgivable
fast tusk
it was just bad luck, atlanta will pop off against fuel
tawdry hamlet
I just genuinely don't think it matters though, there isn't any team in the league that would have faired much better in that instance besides chengdu, nobody in na knows how to do anything with or against pharah
I have been saying for months someday na will realize the power of pharah
and they still haven't
dreamy cave
Wait. There going to do the losers bracket until Tomorrow right??
fast tusk
yes
tropic herald
tomorrow is losers yeah
dreamy cave
Damn.
forest raven
Tomorrow is winners final, losers round 1, and losers final
balmy wolf
it probs will
stuck radish
too bad shanghai just wins
tawdry hamlet
probably will, na didn't prep for pharah
balmy wolf
only good teams in this tournament sadly
tawdry hamlet
because the na teams that tried pharah lost with it
fast tusk
i think dragons will beat hunters
tawdry hamlet
so now they assumed it wasn't viable
balmy wolf
dragons just gonna win again
tawdry hamlet
and now that the apac teams actually can run pharah right it actually works
balmy wolf
everything
dreamy cave
Hitscan has been nerfed. But I dont think that those changes are in the league yet right??
forest raven
Nope
hollow bough
not yet
fast tusk
no
forest raven
Shanghai just rolled Atlanta with majority pharah before the hitscan falloff nerf
But
To be fair
Shanghai also ran pharah on maps and points where the falloff wouldn't be relevant
dreamy cave
I didn't expect atl to win. I just hoped they would do well.
stuck radish
imagine if shanghai swapped to bastion just to boom atlanta further
next mesa
awwww yeahhh 😎 profit gang
forest raven
I am a Mmonk and Izayaki simp
stuck radish
boomed
upper niche
Hanuama Bay, probably 😄
next mesa
S tier results
balmy wolf
APAC teams are garbage and they are cheating and if you are okay with that you are the reason it’s happening. It’s corruption and it’s popular for the league to hate on the Fuel and the Reign and give them disadvantages
worn falcon
balmy wolf
But despite all the corruption and cheating Dallas Fuel will prevail from the losers bracket. And beat everyone including Shanghai in the final. Dallas Fuel will be the most hated and misunderstood heroes of esports. No of all time.
next mesa
Ok josh dick
worn falcon
tropic herald
Did you just post a copypasta
worn falcon
Is this some copy pasta?
next mesa
Probably
earnest leaf
APAC teams are garbage and they are cheating and if you are okay with that you are the reason it’s happening. It’s corruption and it’s popular for the league to hate on the Fuel and the Reign and give them disadvantages. But despite all the corruption and cheating Dallas Fuel will prevail from the losers bracket. And beat everyone including Shanghai in the final. Dallas Fuel will be the most hated and misunderstood heroes of esports. No of all time.
worn falcon
Hope chengdu wins thia tourney
tawdry hamlet
even with scrim time atlanta would have lost but still kind of dumb and just dismissing it as well na sucks is kind of silly
But scrim time aside you have to be on tons of copium to not admit Shanghai is just better than every other team in the league at this time as they were expected to be close to this season
ivory mason
Waking up to hunters 3-1 fuel was a welcome surprise
Leave for me is a top 5 dps right now
earnest leaf
Not prepared enough for chengdu's comps
keen abyss
tawdry hamlet
in how many maps tho like 4 lmao
Shanghai have 3-0 everyone in apac now haven't they?
forest raven
No he lost two series in 2020
Played seven series in 2020
Won 5
And is now 5-0 in 2021
tawdry hamlet
I think people that still haven't hopped on just need to accept shanghai is the number one team in the league, like everyone coming into the season literally had shock shanghai fuel in top 3 so idk why people get so scared to admit that it goes shanghai then fuel then like 4 other teams since this was the predicted outcome this season
like Dallas and Shanghai are equal in most comps BUT Shanghai can flex to a new comp, while Dallas doesn't have the hero pools big enough to do that
Last season everyone was cool with shock winning idk why everyone is salty now like omg muh na is not bad
like the regions are pretty equal people just blow it out of proportion
ALTHOUGH ONE IMPORTANT THING
when NA loses we like to blame cheating a lot (election moment) so expect more shit about travel lmaooo
anyway that is me on na copiumers like you can be an na fan and accept that shanghai is the top team you don't need to defend your regions honor lmao
ivory mason
Dallas was strong in the start when dragons were figuring out how to properly use fate, but since then dragons have properly figured out how to use the team and now they are currently the best team in the league
forest raven
I want Chengdu to win
Because they're awesome
But also because they'd get a title before Fusion
tawdry hamlet
I have been a Chengdu fan since early last year when I bought that ameng ball, they were my favorite apac to watch, Chengdu ball comp beating meta London contenders team last year in apac playoffs was actually a good series
Glister vs baconjack and the ball comp lmao
Like I had favorite players scattered across the league like haksal stitch but Chengdu was the only team I liked as a whole really
tawdry hamlet
Danny said Hexagrams wrote his watchpoint jokes today when I told him his jokes were funny 
abstract nova
Was it 3-1 to Chengdu?
tawdry hamlet
Hexagrams tha goat
abstract nova
How did the other game go? 3-0 Dragons?
tawdry hamlet
Atlanta got caught off guard, hadn't practiced, didn't expect pharah, and we're also just out skilled completely too
abstract nova
Hadn't practiced?
tawdry hamlet
they got to hawaii less than 24 hours before their match
so they didn't practice but they also hadn't practiced pharah comps anyway
abstract nova
What, I still don't get how that means they didn't practice, maybe not Phara comps, but why would them gdtting there at that time mean they didn't practuce
fallen acorn
how is jinmu able to play pharah into soldier, bap, dva?
sparkle is still a really good hitscan
surely there are better picks for kings row first? think chengdu is only team that plays pharah there in t1 or t2
hanbin is one of the best DVAs in OWL too
sombra is annoying to pharah on kings row as well
the fuel are the best team in the league as well so it's not like they have some coordination issue and chengdu can just play whatever
mortal abyss
Chengdu have always been able to get away with pharah when they shouldn’t see: vs philly and Seoul
fallen acorn
is yveltal just the best mercy in OWL by far?
yea but how is it chengdu can get away with it?
mortal abyss
Because jinmu and yveltal are the best pharmercy duo in the league
forest raven
Ball/sombra/zen is how they get away with it
fallen acorn
there are other people in OWL who have insane pharahs
and almost no other team ever plays here
mortal abyss
Ball/sombra/zen is how they get away with it
This aswell
fallen acorn
*plays her
fallen acorn
Ball/sombra/zen is how they get away with it
how does this help the pharah so much?
mortal abyss
They forced dallas and to play to their tempo and as such Jinmu had all he needed
forest raven
Disruption
balmy wolf
as expected
forest raven
And high poke damage
fallen acorn
Disruption
ok that's cool chengdu has a really cool unique strategy
mortal abyss
Against fast compositions pharah can’t get as much value as when the game is slowed down as much as it was
forest raven
Ball/sombra when played properly will take control of the game
fallen acorn
i think no other team is trying to do that as an objective
mortal abyss
ok that's cool chengdu has a really cool unique strategy
It’s been their thing for a while, really cool to watch when it pays off
fallen acorn
i think they more just used to be like a team of onetricks that would sometimes pop off lol
forest raven
Shanghai played pharah against Atlanta's rush and dismantled it
fallen acorn
but they look really good rn
against arguably the best team in the league
i feel like chengdu hasn't had a huge upset like this before either?
forest raven
They 3-0'd Shanghai at the beginning of the season
fallen acorn
yea but during a tournament/playoffs
forest raven
Nope
fallen acorn
they don't have good results
forest raven
This is the best Chengdu has ever looked
Mmonk was a huge upgrade
Jinmu's actually improved at sombra
Gaga's basically ameng but can play other tanks
forest raven
Reminder
fallen acorn
i think they more just used to be like a team of onetricks that would sometimes ...
yea i always thought of them as kind of a meme team
forest raven
Avast said Pelican was better than Leave
forest raven
Leave got multiple double bombs with tracer against Dallas
fallen acorn
idk i'm watching this now his tracer doesn't look that amazing
pulsebombs are a lot about rng
forest raven
Bro??
mortal abyss
ahem
abstract nova
there is no rng in overwatch
forest raven
You don't consistently stick squishies because of rng
fallen acorn
yea but they have to be in the perfect spot
for you to do that
it's not something any tracer can do consistently
tacit skiff
I had a dream that Atlanta reverse swept the Dragons
abstract nova
cool
tacit skiff
I'm glad that didn't happen, fuck Atlanta
tacit skiff
^^^
abstract nova
brain dumb
fallen acorn
yea like i saw one of the double PBs and it's a zarya that's next to a zen
abstract nova
Stomped?
forest raven
I hope Atlanta gets 3-0'd
fallen acorn
and it's just super unlucky that the zarya didn't have bubble or that they were so close
forest raven
So I can make fun of Atlanta fans
fallen acorn
or that one of them was low enough health to die
tacit skiff
Atlanta is the villain of the overwatch league, confirmed?
forest raven
Or maybe Chengdu and Leave tracked that the zarya already used bubble?
abstract nova
ye
forest raven
Consistently outplaying your opponent isn't RNG lmao
balmy wolf
yall mad
abstract nova
rng doesn't exist in overwatch at all, I mean you can be unlucky, but there is no rng
balmy wolf
kinda cringe
tacit skiff
Atlanta cringe
abstract nova
kinda cringe
D:
tacit skiff
midtier team at best
balmy wolf
ur mom
abstract nova
Why do you hate Atlanta so much?
balmy wolf
no
tacit skiff
Atlanta smelly
balmy wolf
Shanghai just better
abstract nova
Atlanta smelly
Smelly animals?
tacit skiff
that's racist
abstract nova
what
fallen acorn
https://gyazo.com/6d0530c7740a218b9036e619a1cea376 this is unlucky it's not like sp9rkle is an amazing tracer that can consistently do that
balmy wolf
i predicted atl to lose
tacit skiff
you can't call someone from Georgia a smelly animal
they don't choose to be there
abstract nova
you can't call someone from Georgia a smelly animal
they don't choose to be ther...
bruhus
forest raven
https://gyazo.com/6d0530c7740a218b9036e619a1cea376 this is unlucky it's not like...
They were hacked by Doha's emp
tawdry hamlet
I don't know how you can watch that performance and not be impressed by leaves tracer though lmao he put on a show
balmy wolf
hes obsessed with atlanta
tawdry hamlet
Even me high on na copium knows he put on a show
balmy wolf
cringe
fallen acorn
yea but the PB kill doesn't tell you much about sp9rkle's ability even though it's a double kill
mortal abyss
Are you srsly trying to imply sparkle is a better tracer then leave 
tacit skiff
I'm obsessed with Chengdu 3-0ing Shanghai tmrw
abstract nova
I'm obsessed with Chengdu 3-0ing Shanghai tmrw
lesgo
fallen acorn
sparkles tracer is not good
tacit skiff
Repeat of Week 1 incoming
fallen acorn
if leave were a top tracer he'd be destroying him
forest raven
Leave is a top tracer
balmy wolf
stop
abstract nova
????
forest raven
Sparkle is quite good at the hero too
tacit skiff
I hope they get rid of the regions so that every team can fight every team
next season
forest raven
I hope they get rid of the regions so that every team can fight every team
Season 5 at the earliest 
abstract nova
Who is a top tracer then?
abstract nova
ye
tacit skiff
I can't wait for in person games again, so that ping will no longer be an issue
forest raven
LAN 
tawdry hamlet
LAN ðŸ˜
mortal abyss
We’ve already had APAC LAN matches
forest raven
Yeah but they weren't playoff games
mortal abyss
Ah true
tacit skiff
I want them to be a regular tho
abstract nova
Ok, I think most do
tacit skiff
I wanna buy tickets to a game in la so bad
I was gonna watch a Boston homestand event last summer
but
2020 was smth else
tawdry hamlet
Fielder was building ult like every 20 seconds that shit was epic
forest raven
How are there so many goated flex support players
mortal abyss
No clue
The role is so stacked
Izayaki…. Alarm….. Mmonk…. The list continues
tawdry hamlet
Roolf is s++ tier they literally had to make a new tier just for him that dude is insane
chilly jolt
im calling it now, countdown cup skin will be for moira
sullen berry
Almost forgot that Ana skin is for Summer Showdown
redeemed that like the widowmaker one and the mei melee before it
forest raven
I have the ana skin and already got up to 245 tokens
Maybe I should buy a normal skin 
sullen berry
well don't let me stop you but
you still have regional all star skins to look forward to at 200 a pop also
you might make enough for all three!
sullen berry
watching too many hours at this rate
tawdry hamlet
That fucking server who lost their boost and broke my emojis
sullen berry
just kidding
sullen berry
tawdry hamlet
It previews in my favorites list normally but when I click on it, it only puts text lmao
So out of habit I forget
And go :OmegaLUL: :OmegaLUL:
sullen berry
i was gonna say, no idea what you're talking about
but it's just gone from your boosted discord server
forest raven
you still have regional all star skins to look forward to at 200 a pop also
They won't be until the season's over or some shit
Plenty of time
tawdry hamlet
Also I had like 790 tokens when I bought widow and then was up to 700 again when I bought ana
I have farmed every single stream na and apac and encore
I refuse to miss free tokens for all star skins
Farmed like 900 this season so far
sullen berry
for all the folks who have excuses to spend money on OWL tokens:
can these individual servers live a little, if they use sadge this much?
two of them actually are from compow and owl
tawdry hamlet
Are those all different emojis
tawdry hamlet
I have 13 pepega emotes wtf
tawdry hamlet
Jjonak has played every single nyxl map since the team was made
He has never sat out once
Absolute freak
upper niche
I wonder if jjonak has something about that in his contract. He was highly regarded from the start and rumoured to be extremely highly paid, so it's possible he was able to get that written in.
tawdry hamlet
If he has played every single map since inception they better pay their franchise player well lmao
plush grail
@balmy wolf your team is shit
willow tartan
trueing
balmy wolf
<@456226577798135808> your team is shit
come to Hawaii before u talk loser
willow tartan
they should've at least tried to play kai
balmy wolf
Kai was sleeping
forest raven
Chengdu
willow tartan
so anyways. dallas should beat atlanta right guys???
balmy wolf
idk
willow tartan
to be honest me neither
balmy wolf
Atlanta has practice against dallsa
willow tartan
yeah and the last time dallas fought atlanta they won
balmy wolf
barely
willow tartan
mm
feral zodiac
Looks like chengdu activated
forest raven
Whoever loses there will be travel copium
willow tartan
maybe in the losers match both teams just agree to revert to NA comps and we see sym mei rush
plush grail
plush grail
Hè legit shaved it so he could wear shorts with high socks
tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
i like it
plush grail
Poko should be the face of owl
willow tartan
i mean the face of owl is tracer isnt it
plush grail
no its poko now
tawdry hamlet
this is Danny's Take
balmy wolf
scrimming is not even the problem
its jetlag
Atlanta team couldnt even Sleep enough before playing
balmy wolf
i dont think scrimming makes a difference, but practicing and sleep schedule does
we wouldve lost anyways
so stfu luigi
plush grail
shanghai is ez
balmy wolf
ur brain is nonexistent
plush grail
ur team sucks
tacit skiff
Atlanta smelly
balmy wolf
Yeah they smell like hawaii
tacit skiff
Hawaii smells like bad weather
plush grail
Hawaii smells like bad weather
wanna be friends?
tacit skiff
i-
I'll have you know
that Boston is neutral in w/l ratio
much better than last season
balmy wolf
smells right for me
balmy wolf
ye
tacit skiff
out of all the things that could've ruined Boston for you
you choose not the two pedophiles as your reason
tawdry hamlet
An early player ruined boston for me as a franchise, then a later player compounded that
tacit skiff
Boston's had coaching issues
tepid ibex
idk its coaching issues
tacit skiff
ever since Crusty left sadge
Boston has been experiencing a Crusty diff since Season 2
plush grail
tacit skiff
I'm a better sigma than punk
willow tartan
i mean
they couldve scrimmed kr/cn contenders teams technically
but at this stage i think it wouldve been more about theorycrafting a composition from VODs
plush grail
what if for season 5 every team moves to hawaii
tacit skiff
hawaiiwatch league
plush grail
im pretty sure u need a usa visa to be able to play in na
willow tartan
what if in season 5 covid stopped existing so the teams could have games globally
plush grail
paris homestand 
willow tartan
can we get overwatch at the olympics
upper niche
The inability for players to get Visas seems like it's going to be a long-term problem for OWL.
willow tartan
maybe in the preshow or something
yo
did anyone else not get their owl tokens wtf
i feel robbed
tacit skiff
I think if I got them
I should be over 200 now
tacit skiff
how does one join t2
willow tartan
Either get signed to a team already in T2 or have your team win in contenders trials to be promoted to T2
upper niche
did anyone else not get their owl tokens wtf
Yeah I didn't get any this time around either.
sullen berry
https://tenor.com/view/grass-gif-20975775
Do you even have grass bud
tawdry hamlet
I have a different kind of grass bud
tawdry hamlet
tacit skiff
I have sand
lots of sand
and rocks
BRUH I DIDN'T GET MY TOKENS
thats what I get for falling asleep during a Shanghai match
tawdry hamlet
I got my skin at least
tacit skiff
from watching the league, I really have improved as a tank player
feral zodiac
can we get overwatch at the olympics
Esports olympics maybe
tacit skiff
just got booted from ow because my Xbox had to update
feelsbadman
there goes my sr
I might be able to join back in if it updates quickly
joined back, but our other tank had already started throwing
sadge
feral zodiac
Did shanghai break any records against atlanta
willow tartan
boom atlanta any%
balmy wolf
ye
Shanghai our kryptonite
0-6
Shanghai is everyones kryptonite tho
so it doesnt matter
willow tartan
shock have been dodging shanghai all year by not qualifying
dont want that rematch
plush grail
Shanghai our kryptonite
a decent fuckin team is ur kryptonite
noble nexus
saying that like shanghai is just a "decent team"
shanghai would dick every other team in the league down 3-0 lol
forest raven
Shock at the end of season 2 vs Shanghai right now
willow tartan
shanghai would dumpster them
forest raven
Non-biased take
willow tartan
its true
noble nexus
nah it'd be a decent match but I reckon shock might take that
willow tartan
What will end of season 2 shock play against the tracer sombra ball dive
forest raven
Well they have Striker so they win the tracer matchup
noble nexus
smurf has a decent ball and choi has a decent dva
forest raven
Choi has an elite dva
noble nexus
not rn
tacit skiff
I don't even think ball was around in season 2?
noble nexus
choi has let me down this season 😔
noble nexus
ball was played in grand finals a fair bit
willow tartan
theyre about to get a rude awakening
noble nexus
I mean in grand finals season 3
season 2 shock could just mirror the sombra tracer ball dive lol
willow tartan
shock is like one of the few teams that got worse instead of got better this season
forest raven
For obvious reasons
willow tartan
(ignoring the pre season 3 titans)
noble nexus
because they lost their keypieces and 3 assistant coaches
feral zodiac
It's close between the 2
willow tartan
no im saying that usually, each season means the teams are better than their previous iteration
but shock is the outlier
i guess fusion too technically
theyve been wishy washy
feral zodiac
New york
noble nexus
because every other team upgraded lol
willow tartan
ehh new york didnt do good last year either
noble nexus
the shock made one or two alright pickups
cursive plover
Shock just lost too much
feral zodiac
Paris have arguably gotten worse despite their current performances
noble nexus
only got one more assistant coach and then still ended up losing that assistant coach
willow tartan
cursive plover
valiant 
willow tartan
anyway though
s3 grand finals shock vs shanghai currently
would be a fire matchup
feral zodiac
Hitscan meta I think shock wins
willow tartan
current london would beat s3 london
actually
post runaway titans in s3 would beat current titans too
noble nexus
imagine having glister on your team and getting rolled by current london
feral zodiac
Cockwave
willow tartan
so shock, vancouver and valiant all got worse this season
glad to see the bottom teams stick together 💪
feral zodiac
Paris downgraded the players but upgraded the coaching
willow tartan
yea
s3 paris players were cracked
benbest hanbin xzi nico fdgod fielder
fielder 300 ping moment
noble nexus
Forgetting soon smh
noble nexus
He played other stuff
feral zodiac
Soon played a bit of hitscan but xzi was better on the cree/ashe
willow tartan
wait wasnt soon also the sombra
noble nexus
Yeah
willow tartan
yeah wtf was up with that
worthy tinsel
i woke up to find
dallas in the losers bracket
and atlanta just getting pounded
fuck happened yesterday
cursive plover
I don't know I hope dallas don't choke
the Atlanta v Dallas game was pretty close last time
So I'm a bit scared
But being in the losers bracket sucks because you win the first game and have to play another after that
So even if Dallas were to 3-0 Atlanta they'd have to play chengdu or shanghai which will probably be tiring as fuck
willow tartan
thats a feature, not a bug
cursive plover
Eh
I just don't like how tournaments kinda fuck up western players
Since they have to fly, play jetlagged etc
but then again
Dallas will obviously win ss 
willow tartan
Not like he was getting play time lets be real
limber pine
raw ermine
oof
north relic
Sadge
viral yacht
Will there be a skin for countdown cup
worthy tinsel
was feather really that much better tho?
i’ve felt like feather either pops off or just can’t get a elim for his life
noble nexus
I mean I assume Ivy was benched because he was wanting to retire and was unmotivated
worthy tinsel
yeah maybe
feral zodiac
Ivy was extremely good last season
little tusk
oh shit what
dallas got rolled
pure apac in the finals oh boy
and chengdu wasn't too hot against shd
guess shd too strong
nocturne yacht
candid gyro
Chengduing ur mom
hot onyx
ivy retired
raw ermine
raw ermine
Twitter
next mesa
Ivy retired?
raw ermine
yes
hot onyx
I mean I assume Ivy was benched because he was wanting to retire and was unmotiv...
Or maybe Ivy was being constantly benched by a team with one of the worst coach lines in the league and that prompted him to lose motivation and want to retire
balmy wolf
And sparkle tracer is bad
sparkle is pretty good but it was mtd
willow tartan
sorry
who said that leave is not a top tracer
whomst the fuck is this kags person
hot onyx
whomst the fuck is this kags person
Stupid, that’s who
willow tartan
hey can we pull up those leave tracer stats again?
hot onyx
hey can we pull up those leave tracer stats again?
Sure thing bb x
ivory stag
so dragons beat hunters then either fuel or reign win barely on map 5 then dragons clean up winning team with only one map loss?
willow tartan
Not even that.
If fuel wins and dragons win, fuel rematches with chengdu
Atlanta v Chengdu I would like to see though.
willow tartan
or if they aren't even given the chance to adapt and they lose to Atlanta in the rush mirror
tacit skiff
Everytime I see an Xfinity ad during owl, I throw up in my mouth
ivory stag
hunters looking good though not as good as dragons but pretty close id say a slightly better pharah
tank line though id say dragons
tacit skiff
Lucio battle on Lijang
ivory stag
got the dva skin les goo!
i love the grey and orange i wish i could get it for tracer and hanzo
north relic
i would love it on tracer
ivory stag
i wish at end of season they would just sell the ones they dont do i really want it for tracer and hanzo lol
sullen berry
tracer was one of the first skins they gave away
ivory stag
so glad to see that because i came late to the party i wont ever get it seems fair
sullen berry
a. purchased from Twitch All Access Pass
b. perks by T-mobile for watching the flash ops tournament
c. don't worry I'm absolutely sure that's the guilt they want you to feel
why else did they rerelease it
ivory stag
tf is twitch all access pass?
sullen berry
we're not expecting any of the exclusive merch from blizzcon to be made available to the public
looks angrily at sombra demon hunter skin
when OWL was broadcast on Twitch, it came bundled with 4 home skins only
ivory stag
so thats to late to get as well cool
wicked pendant
Imagine how the Fuel must feel right now lmao
Really feelin' themselves with those homestand victories, feeling like rockstars
Then they found themselves in THE ZONE
wicked pendant
Same, my dude.
tacit skiff
I was wondering when hero pools would come back
hopefully the new ones let other teams dominate on other comps
I'm looking for heroes like Winston, Cree, Ashe and Ana to get banned
really shake things up
tacit skiff
y'know what
no
ban mei
so Nero can't block anymore of Super's shatters
if I don't get compensated for my lack of owl tokens-
tacit skiff
like this whole not earning tokens thing really takes the fun outta watching the league casually
wicked pendant
I'm looking for heroes like Winston, Cree, Ashe and Ana to get banned
Do y'all think a Winston ban will result in THE RISE OF BALL in NA or will we just be looking at ReinZar/SigmaRisa all the way?
hot onyx
I'm looking for heroes like Winston, Cree, Ashe and Ana to get banned
I get that but hear me out
tacit skiff
listening
hot onyx
Ban mei echo orisa and mercy
tacit skiff
why horse
balmy wolf
Ban mei echo orisa and mercy
why mercy
hot onyx
I’m thinking about a fun comp
earnest leaf
I wish for a symm/sombra/winston/brig ban
wicked pendant
Sombra was already banned last time, though, right?
hot onyx
And all those characters are either unfun or played too often this season
earnest leaf
ah fuck you right
tacit skiff
I just want double shield to be meta
earnest leaf
ban mei instead then
balmy wolf
pharah should be banned or mercy anyone of them
hot onyx
Maybe sym over echo
tacit skiff
if pharah gets banned, that's a waste of a ban lmao
balmy wolf
what u mean
tacit skiff
when you have gods like pine in the league
pharah doesn't get picked
wicked pendant
Tracer-Sombra were the last DPS banned
raw ermine
Twitter
tacit skiff
old news
hot onyx
Wait tf am I talking about good mei gameplay is fun as hell to watch
wicked pendant
Hmmmmmmmmm
tacit skiff
sooner or later, every team is gonna be running rookies
wicked pendant
You know what? Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to banning Tracer-Sombra again.
wicked pendant
Ban all off-tanks.
tacit skiff
peak overwatch? yeah
entertaining overwatch? eh
noble nexus
3 minute long scrappy fights were fun
watching houston vs boston goats mirror wasn't fun
noble nexus
yeah you're an atlanta fan too so I could already tell you don't know what good overwatch is
noble nexus
NA just don't play ball so they just don't know how to deal with it
fast tusk
5v5 sounds more fun then goats
earnest leaf
Because no one in NA really plays ball
noble nexus
^
tacit skiff
Why can't NA deal with Ball?
na sucks
wicked pendant
Yeah, I'm just saying the implication of banning Ball to make "APAC fight fair" is weird and implies that APAC is doing dishonorable shit when NA just needs to step it up and git gud with Ball
earnest leaf
I do find ball in owl pretty boring though
willow tartan
A ball ban would be as stupidly redundant as banning pharah.
earnest leaf
^
willow tartan
AKA only like 2-3 teams play it
tacit skiff
I'm happy for Chengdu
sad about what's about to happen to them
willow tartan
philly tried to mirror the ball and they got rolled
NYXL played the ball but choked
tacit skiff
this season I've learned that ball is a really good hero so I'm tryna get better at the rat
tacit skiff
I'm sorry about that
wicked pendant
Nah, feel worse for Rein and Monke mains
tacit skiff
I personally
am the world's greatest diamond echo
fast tusk
me playing rein can be 50/50 good or bad
willow tartan
I really feel like D.Va ban is the play here
Yea
I'm all for a Winston ban too, but DVA more please.
She deserves it...
tacit skiff
watch them ban four tanks
wicked pendant
"Hey, so you know OW2's 5v5, right?"
tacit skiff
ban all tanks
widowfest
willow tartan
Only tanks you're allowed to play be like sigma rein
Rocket condom in OWL would be poggers
tacit skiff
all post launch heroes banned
back to 2016 meta
fast tusk
"Hey, so you know OW2's 5v5, right?"
thats gonna be so much better when that comes out
wicked pendant
Give me SUPER MONKEY BALL
willow tartan
genji tracer dive let's go
wicked pendant
Just chaotic slamming into each other's backlines
tacit skiff
I want a return to season 5 of ow
wicked pendant
cries in Sombra main
tacit skiff
brig at release
wicked pendant
Oh, pre-nerf Sigma, tho
willow tartan
release sigma is hot
wicked pendant
Massive shield, lightning fast repositioning, SCALING ROCK
I really feel like they should bring back scaling rock
willow tartan
scaling rock was my favorite part
wicked pendant
Unironically
willow tartan
I remember Guangzhou's cr0ng did a preset rock and nailed some poor fuck right out from spawn across the map
wicked pendant
And while we're at it, I demand they make Grasp cancelable
north relic
make him fly as well
willow tartan
to be honest I kinda dig the instant shield repositioning thing
wicked pendant
I was a god at blocking cooldowns with it
willow tartan
I get its v powerful to have in OW but like ignoring balance for a second here..
It was fun to play with
It made the gameplay loop feel so smooth
and make you feel smart for constantly repositioning shield
now with the shield cooldown it just feels clunky
wicked pendant
Yeah, I stopped playing Sigma completely (unless absolutely forced to) after the Shield cooldown thing
It just doesn't feel good, bro.
frank granite
The longer shield cool down makes you actually have to think when playing him
hot onyx
and tell me who is the best ball
Beast 
willow tartan
how could they remove the shield cooldown thing and make sigma a balanced hero at the same time
i want that
hot onyx
Idk
Nerf orb impact damage from 50 to 45 or 40
Rework accretion slightly so it has less stun time but a faster cooldown
plush grail
hot onyx
Take a shot every time Luigi posts this
plush grail
I just love poko feet
hot onyx
Damn if you love them that much you should totally become a fan of that team Poko plays for
What’s it called again?
wicked pendant
Rework accretion slightly so it has less stun time but a faster cooldown
Noooooooo give me back my scaling rock
plush grail
Fuck fusion
tacit skiff
finally
my 5 tokens
I'm owed like 30 more blizzard cmon
hot onyx
Fuck fusion
🥅
plush grail
Who
raw ermine
EQOWO
next mesa
EqOwO
hot onyx
Net yourself a top tier fdps by becoming a Fusion fan, side effects may include crippling depression and unsolvable mental pain
plush grail
I keep getting asked out by girls to go on a date on Friday or Saturday but they don't understand
Every Friday and Saturday the PARIS ETERNAL PLAY
wicked pendant
YT Chat simping hard for Soe lmao
shell wedge
Lol eSports.
noble nexus
tacit skiff
Every Friday and Saturday the PARIS ETERNAL PLAY
I see you have your priorities straight
raw ermine
wait is OWL live or is this just encore?
earnest leaf
encore
next mesa
shoe
raw ermine
looking at the OWL YT encore chat is the lowest humanity has to offer
shell wedge
Can't you guys enjoy a nice game alone?
worn falcon
lol the pr stuff https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1415789616909590528
willow tartan
I keep getting asked out by girls to go on a date on Friday or Saturday but they...
dumbass you should have them watch OWL with you
wicked pendant
lol the pr stuff https://twitter.com/owpathtopro/status/1415789616909590528
What happened here? I don't follow Contenders.
raw ermine
2 teams played
one team had a DC
the team wanted to use their 10 minutes of pause to wait for the reconnect
admin said no
both teams agreed to pause the game til the player returned
admin said no
the game continued, the team w/ the DC lost
and now everyones pissed at the power tripping admin
and OWC
wicked pendant
That's weird. What reason did the admin give for not allowing it?
Just
¯_(ツ)_/¯
willow tartan
i thought it was that the team that had the DC already used up their ten minutes but then the enemy team offered to give their 10 minutes of pause but the admin dendied it
because youre only allowed to use pausetime for your own technical issues
or something to that effect... probs best bet is reading the contenders rulebook
wicked pendant
Ah, that does line up with "the rulebook was followed" pretty well.
willow tartan
yeah well anyways theyre changing the ruleset because
they dont want this to happen again
where an admin goes like "well technically i can say no to this"
wicked pendant
Somebody on the very sportsman-like team offering their pause time really should have just accidentally unplugged his ethernet cable.
Though I suppose feigning technical issues probably doesn't sit well either
willow tartan
i think one of the players did
but backed out because they didnt want to put their heads on the chopping bloc
someone posted an ss of it
this one
wicked pendant
Aww, that's rough, but I'm sure the enemy team appreciated the gesture. Doesn't quite change the outcome, though.
TAINTED VICTORY
willow tartan
They've won... but at what cost?
tacit skiff
I'm ready for the Leave diff
I'm ready for Shanghai to experience what entering THE ZONE is like
we have three games tonight right? losers bracket, winners bracket, and then the decider for grandfinals spot #2
willow tartan
yeppers
losers semis, winners finals, losers finals, then grand finals tomorrow
hey actually
this reminds me, do they actually update the art at the outro?
like with retired players are they still there
or do they periodically change the art
candid gyro
Dva mei sym bap bans
I really want this tbh
Or just dva gone in general
Could just be her banned and I'd be okay with it
willow tartan
those are the next most likely targets imo
next mesa
dva banned we will go double shield
raw ermine
ok I saw this copypasta on twitter. Thoughts?
Hey guys, I am new to watching Overwatch League. I loved when the Atlanta Reign (my favorite team btw) trolled the London Spitfire by refusing to capture the point. Can someone explain why they didn't do the same thing to the Shanghai Dragons? In fact, they didn't capture at all!
willow tartan
Hey guys, I am new to watching Overwatch League. I loved when the Atlanta Reign ...
Hey guys, I am new to watching Overwatch League. I loved when the Atlanta Reign (my favorite team btw) trolled the London Spitfire by refusing to capture the point. Can someone explain why they didn't do the same thing to the Shanghai Dragons? In fact, they didn't capture at all!
noble nexus
Hey guys, I am new to watching Overwatch League. I loved when the Atlanta Reign ...
Hey guys, I am new to watching Overwatch League. I loved when the Atlanta Reign (my favorite team btw) trolled the London Spitfire by refusing to capture the point. Can someone explain why they didn't do the same thing to the Shanghai Dragons? In fact, they didn't capture at all!
tawdry hamlet
just to get swept again
People keep saying this but would glads or justice be any better lmao I mean I'm not an Atlanta fan but I can't help but think NA is just not good enough to beat Shanghai excluding Dallas sometimes
And didn't Atlanta knock out nyxl
Last time
Also losing ivy sucks
Huge waste of talent
willow tartan
No I'm just saying if the meta became double shield then atlanta would very likely qualify again
and that it would be funny if they got swept again
earnest leaf
give me another finals meta
willow tartan
wym
earnest leaf
that good ol hog double sniper
willow tartan
finals meta as in where blizzard releases a br
o
yes, when blizzard releases a broken as patch for pros to play on as the decider for the culmination of the year of overwatch league
tawdry hamlet
I know you don't want to hear it, but meta for meta shock probably would have won anyway season 3 shock were just s+++ tier while Shanghai biggest competition was a hog meta Seoul or spark lmao 
earnest leaf
s3 shock beats shanghai regardless of the meta I think
tawdry hamlet
Can't believe ivy retired though, went from top of the league dps to nothing ðŸ˜
earnest leaf
just striker/ans dps duo was too fucking nasty
willow tartan
I know you don't want to hear it, but meta for meta shock probably would have wo...
But at least we wouldn't have lost to fucking gesture hog
tawdry hamlet
ðŸ˜
earnest leaf
true
willow tartan
like outside of winning the championship which obviously i wouldve liked it to happen