Imo, is a bit concerning , it shows how being at that level impacts mental health.
#esports-discussion
astral juniper
noble nexus
that or it's just them being humble
Ans did it all the time and we know how his mental health was
astral juniper
I can't see someone saying "i'm so bad sorry" to be humble, he just seems like he doesn't value himself the "right" way
noble nexus
also for the oge thing it could just be him going to see his family for the mental refresher considering that have like a month long break
well what are they gonna do?
flame teammates?
earnest leaf
They also have a pretty long break so
plush grail
also for the oge thing it could just be him going to see his family for the ment...
yeah but still, he's missing tons of scrim time
noble nexus
could be good for his mental atleast
earnest leaf
Teams that aren't in the summer showdown aren't scrimming
maybe one or two will do a warmup scrim for the summer showdown teams
but most are on break
noble nexus
also with all the self isolations going from korea to america he might not even get enough time with his family or be back for countdown cup
which is probably concerning for mayhem fans
earnest leaf
They'll start scrims back up a week or two before the games start
earnest leaf
Or on a break just to chill
Players get homesick
Remember ans went back to korea at some point last season
plush grail
stfu i want drama
astral juniper
Man esports teams really need to get a grip on caring about their talents mental health
earnest leaf
idk what more they can do other than not suck tbh
Replacing him with checkmate in hindsight was pretty braindead though
noble nexus
100%
earnest leaf
Checkmate was not it
unironically florida might have been able to win with oge in for that dallas match
noble nexus
The Kuki Ketamine
earnest leaf
they won two maps with checkmate on orisa
now imagine if they had an actual rein/winston player for the koth maps
tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
yeah I have a problem with that
but a lot of the genuine hate is actually about the "its not coming home" shit
noble nexus
sbb bmed an entire government and had like 4 teams malding about him
can't beat that shit
he's goated
tawdry hamlet
And he hasn't even played a map 
plush grail
the virgin logix who doesn't do shit on the bench
vs the chad sbb who's still one of the most liked owl players even while perma-benched
raw ermine
Twitter
raw ermine
https://share.api.weibo.cn/share/234561673.html?weibo_id=4658115309997231
Can we get 3 F's in the chat for First Fabulous Fighter disbanding?
F
F
F
noble nexus
pretty sure someone unironically responded to Shu's tweet asking him to stop promoting smoking
Soy community
raw ermine
Twitter
plush grail
First Fabulous Fighter
WHO?
plush grail
are u even speaking english rn lmao
tawdry hamlet
Falcons are playing yznsa which means they will probably lose 
remote siren
Who do u think is the third best team right now?
hot onyx
Oh boy Eu Contenders
Can’t wait for Daan to have a game altering injury and get replaced by Hades
tawdry hamlet
Who do u think is the third best team right now?
Currently at this exact moment in time Atlanta, but like in terms of roster power and skill it'd be someone else but I can't argue with Atlanta hitting the tourney twice with a far less stacked roster
Like if they can get Edison hawk masaa and gator all working hard enough to make top 4 then they gotta be doing something right
Since theoretically teams like justice and mayhem on paper beat them any day
Atlanta almost feels like a better version of Houston in a way
tawdry hamlet
I asked custa if shax is overrated tracer and he said it's because his tanks give him no space compared to last year, but then again is Dreamer McGravy that much better than Hadi Molf in terms of space making?
tawdry hamlet
Interesting, also Florida are 0-7 now? In their last 7 games?
noble nexus
Yeah they went downhill FAST
tawdry hamlet
Oof
noble nexus
Sucks too I quite liked Florida when they were playing well
noble nexus
Hz are my favourite apac team but they suck ass sometimes tbh
tawdry hamlet
They have so many hyped up pieces like Guxue is a good monkey, one of their supports is known to be cracked, architect shy is solid dps. But they never got to play lige
Mcd is actually number 1 in ana stats lmao
Rn
noble nexus
I’m absolutely lost on bernar benching lige
Makes no sense to me unless lige just randomly became ass at the game
tawdry hamlet
After the mental health stuff idk why he still benched
tawdry hamlet
Hunters trolling and playing ameng lateyoung
noble nexus
Lateyoung is their only OT rn isn’t he?
tawdry hamlet
Yeah, just wild they'd actually play that lineup and win
Since it's really outside of ball kind of a meme
noble nexus
o yeah 100%
maybe ameng just has better synergy with lateyoung or something
also a lot of apac kinda suck rn
it's like shanghai chengdu and seoul
and shanghai is miles above
everyone else
tawdry hamlet
Spark could be so good with a better off tank and main support 
noble nexus
Guxue is decent
tawdry hamlet
Guxue Architect are overrated heavily because of past seasons but they're still passable
hot onyx
Guxue is bottom half of the league on any tank that isn’t monke
noble nexus
Guxue architect have high caps they just need to stop playing bernar and get a better MS
bernar isn't even bad
Lige would just be better
noble nexus
either hz coaching is ass or there is something behind the scenes going on with Lige
hot onyx
Iirc someone in the server said he was struggling with his mental health
And that’s why he hasn’t been fielded
noble nexus
I heard about that but that was like ages ago I assumed he’d made some progress with his mental health but ig not 😔
devout path
plush grail
dont care
plush grail
not really
next mesa
i feel like dragons win this one but my heart says no
tropic herald
I think people underestimate Chengdu
earnest leaf
no chengdu bad
remote siren
Arent you a shock fan?
remote siren
meme bracket
tawdry hamlet
they nearly lost to Justice 
remote siren
as is reign dominate fuel
bro let me put it to you like this
justice 3 2 glads
reign 3 2 glads
justice=reign
dallas 3 2 reign
shangai 4 3 fuel
dum dum
tawdry hamlet
math doesn't really work in overwatch though because shock can 3-1 fuel and not even make knockouts Reign in a series would probably beat justice at the moment
people underestimating ratlanta this cycle
devout path
justice=reign
then they lose game 5?
tawdry hamlet
@vagrant cargohttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359235221536899072/864256200522989598/image0.png
I always see you on twitter idk why
remote siren
@devout path Yes kid
devout path
<@!405088084229619715> Yes kid
damn i got called a kid
remote siren
And Shock still 3 peat, too clutch to not make finals
Like their team culture and roster too strong, Like they still have the best mt in the league, best flex, best hitscan, best lucio, best ot
tawdry hamlet
that is if ans can get back to where he was
vagrant cargo
I always see you on twitter idk why
because im mutuals w moneyfolder ig
earnest leaf
We aren't in a meta that helps ans atm
So he won't really be able to shine unless widow becomes meta
tawdry hamlet
because im mutuals w moneyfolder ig
that screenshot someone posted in the apply discord and I was like yooo I know that dude lmao
vagrant cargo
ahem
on twitter im a girl duhh
i got 340 likes for tjis and made 100 followrs in 4 days LMFAOO
willow tartan
the fuel have gone to a map 4 or 5 like their last 3 games
chengdu abuse pharah against fuel
5head
raw ermine
I give hunters 1 map against fuel cuz of that
tawdry hamlet
https://twitter.com/0segss9/status/1410667194489389057?s=19
Wait you're a twitter catfish? 
tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
“Twitter star” 
feral zodiac
Like their team culture and roster too strong, Like they still have the best mt ...
Not at the moment lol
Unless I'm just being dull and not seeing the joke
hot onyx
Gentlemen, hear me out
raw ermine
pic 1 is fine
second one goes downhill
3rd one is fine, but tainted by the second
ivory stag
To Slow To Slow
willow tartan
Gentlemen, hear me out
u got the score backwards on 3rd image
hot onyx
Listen
Dragons are in the weaker region
Name one good apac team besides Dragons and Hunters
north relic
Name one good apac team besides Dragons and Hunters
valiant
hot onyx
Given their expectations, the Valiant has unironically had a better season than Fusion and Dynasty
willow tartan
TRUE
hot onyx
Imagine Valiant just picks up 800 and Lengsa and beats Seoul and Charge
And makes the knockouts
That would be funny I think
feral zodiac
I think seoul and fusion would do well in NA
willow tartan
shanghai is just bullying them too hard
feral zodiac
Shanghai are just monsters
tawdry hamlet
Lmaoo they're trying so hard to say wisp isn't shit because it gets eliminated first usually and sometimes even gets stuck in open division lmao
No shot odyssey lose this
tawdry hamlet
Vulcan is pog champ
This Darkmode roster should have the win this month if they can get past odyssey and american tornado. They literally have Mikeyy coulge s9mm iced lukemino
Also bruh that 5k bomb lmaoo
tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
rhyno forgot he had a shield?
tawdry hamlet
I'm just glad anybody in this chat watches tier 2 it's always so lonely here
And then Luigi comes in and says whomegalul whenever I mention a player lmaoo
willow tartan
of course it's you that watches contenders
if anyone in this chat would watch tendies it's you
tawdry hamlet
Darkmode is gonna be so much fun this month Mikeyy coulge tankline built different
willow tartan
Jishua should've shattered earlier on point imo
tawdry hamlet
Odyssey looks so much weaker without lukemino iced 😭
willow tartan
man that sym portal really makes a big difference in the first fight positioning
devout path
r they on new team yet
tawdry hamlet
Rackattack getting lucio gapped fr fr
No wayy
Odyssey lmao
Ouch the rush one trick team is getting beat at rush by a fucking bottom 3 rated team
So sadge for odyssey
Lemonkiwi legday goated
noble nexus
first time anyone has ever said that
devout path
is contenders meta ds?
tawdry hamlet
They've been playing rein rush since america moment but odyssey is a known double shield team
They were running ice wizard tho
Also seeing rackattacks mom and sister in chat every single odyssey game is always so wholesome 😭
Rhyno is goated orisa but he's so hit or miss on rein
tawdry hamlet
I type one message in chat and become a copypasta 😭
devout path
lmao
tawdry hamlet
For context Kim and Niki rakauskas are rackattacks mom and sister in chat
1 minute full cap
Bruh
raw ermine
I type one message in chat and become a copypasta 😭
more concerned about the kpop comment
they legit named there YT name that
noble nexus
dude that kpop guy has been 1 man spamming since the dawn of man
raw ermine
imagine joining OWL, after popping of in contenders as a FS, joining a talented team with a solid HC and pieces that mesh together well, only to play zarya 3 times and be benched the rest LOL
novel owl
moneyismoney
raw ermine
true
worthy tinsel
imagine a glads without dpei, imagine nyxl with a better mt, imagine washington click
imagine
worthy tinsel
can teams still sign players
bc if i was florida i would sign an actual mt
no offense to checkmate but they need a proper mt
earnest leaf
I mean they still have oge
thin relic
I’ll pop in this chat tmrw for tendies 😄
tropic herald
tawdry hamlet
wow what an announcement! he is playing in contenders because eileen and choi are far better players who would have thought
even forced onto hitscan I honestly give choi and eileen a better chance of winning
earnest leaf
tacit skiff
imagine Dallas or Shanghai not making it to the Grand Finals for once
I miss diversity
not the handful of teams making it in
I'm happy for Dallas and Shanghai
but
it's just dull now
trail perch
Chengdu is going to play dallas in the finals
and win
I can bet money on it
the script writers are reusing s2 plotlines
Both the scorelines
and the overall plot
sullen berry
Twitter
I didn't realise the timing when I posted this
MyKaylee is only a 2-way, he only has to pop off with an Australian Main Tank on his team...
tawdry hamlet
Chengdu is going to play dallas in the finals
I went bold and put atlanta in the finals after beating dallas
I know it sounds crazy
but It can happen
Dallas has looked way weaker than usual on god
willow tartan
but like
playoffs dallas you know
theyre just gonna be like "haha team coordination go brrrr"
forest raven
I remember when everyone put Atlanta winning the Journament
People really do keep consistently underrating APAC
sullen berry
Because the power rankings of APAC at first glance looks weak
hot onyx
@balmy wolf I updated my bracket a little
hot onyx
I know it’s not unrealistic
sullen berry
Not unrealistic?
Ah, so you don't fully doubt it
hot onyx
It’s more of an upset not many are expecting
hot onyx
Kenobi
balmy wolf
but we can all agree that Shanghai wins
hot onyx
Hunters struggled against bad teams like Fusion and Seoul in the weaker region
sullen berry
Paris sucks where it mattered yesterday @plush grail
balmy wolf
Atlanta can beat dallas
sullen berry
Well hunters have a trajectory to snowball
balmy wolf
esp on rein comps
hot onyx
esp on rein comps
Odd way to spell “orisa”
sullen berry
Dragons do not have that - fatigue can settle in for teams like Shanghai trying to maintain their peak performance every tournament
hot onyx
True true
But it won’t settle for this tournament
oh hi Mark my words, Shanghai come 3rd in the Countdown Cup
balmy wolf
i think orisa is weaker than Ball comps
hot onyx
Nah
sullen berry
I am going off of the fact that year there wasn't anything obvious holding them back during the Semifinals last year, they just got outplayed by creative profit and fits
balmy wolf
yeah
sullen berry
Accretion
hot onyx
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves Marbel
I’ve stopped believing in my lost cause of a team, you should too
They make the finals and the score looks like destruction but it’s actually close
Reminiscent of the last finals Gator and Hawk made 
balmy wolf
what
hot onyx
Y’know in Atlanta ever since Unter came in the team looked more coordinated and synergised?
And people think (including me) that Unter has secretly stepped in as head coach
I believe that is what Undine has done for NYXL
Because with the addition of Undine + Kalios they already look stronger
And the main problem I had with NYXL before the season started + after the season started was the coaching staff
I mean
Whynot
More like
Why -are you- not -out of a job-
And yeah people said the players spoke highly of him
But you know who else they spoke highly of?
plush grail
Paris sucks where it mattered yesterday <@196967745877704705>
Where is the charge?
sullen berry
Sans putting a whole new meaning to the words Countdown Cup 
Forever up
and probably out
hot onyx
Sans putting a whole new meaning to the words Countdown Cup <:NYXL:8305530062475...
Counting down how far NYXL can make it
Setting the bar lower and lower every tourney since the June Joust
Next thing you know they lose to Fusion and drop a map to the Valiant
Assuming they don’t hire a main tank who actually knows how to play the game
sullen berry
Yakpung puts on the training weights in Korea
While he seems to play some kind of meta game with himself to see if he can feed harder than Silver3
The Contenders to OWL gap is so big for him
tawdry hamlet
<@456226577798135808> I updated my bracket a little
My fucking man
Me too
I have Atlanta beat Dallas and lose 4-1
Lmaooo
hot onyx
I have Atlanta beat Dallas and lose 4-1
Then we shall bask in a bath of $500 together
hot onyx
This is the voice of somebody that is struggling Lily are you ok
devout path
Nomegalul
devout path
What
hot onyx
GaeBullSsi getting diffed by Space
devout path
Space actually played good tho
hot onyx
Imagine
devout path
And punk leveled up a ton
devout path
Actually good team pog
devout path
Faith is fine
hot onyx
Honestly I had high hopes for Myunbong
But he hasn’t done anything too impressive to be considered in the top half of flex supports imo
Trade him for Aztac
More WGS core
hot onyx
On ana
devout path
Yes
hot onyx
I haven’t been impressed by his zen or bap
And even someone like Viol2t knows how to play moira
devout path
Holy fuck discord shut the fuck up about stickers
hot onyx
Based
devout path
Myunbong is like a knockoff twilight is what ur saying
hot onyx
He just never gets the chance to show it because Crusty is always boosting Viol2t’s ego like his life depends on it
True true
devout path
Im37
hot onyx
StandDumb
If you wanna dream big for Boston
Proper and Kellan
Or even MN3
They all turn 18 next year
forest raven
Your team did something in 2018 then sold Striker and Crusty to Shock lole
tacit skiff
Not like Season 1 was a clusterfuck of a season or anything
You're also forgetting the part where Boston fired their pedo dps
forest raven
Boston had their 10-0 stage after Dream was gone
tacit skiff
Just because he's gone doesn't mean the rest of the team isn't competent
But he was one of the best widowmakers in the game at that time
forest raven
I think we're having a miscommunication here
remote siren
I dont see how any team can beat Shanghai
LIke they are unstoppable
they have lost one map (map not match) in the entire stage
forest raven
Shanghai will 3-0 or 3-1 Reign
remote siren
And they have the best ball and double shield comps, it's looking like a wrap
Shanghai will 4-2 Dallas
forest raven
Their ball comp is fucking clinical
remote siren
Like if this was a rush or monkey dive meta Ill go with Dallas
Honeslty
Prob shanghai 4 3 dallas
hot onyx
Y’all are laughing about Dragons being the Champions before the tourney has even started yet you haven’t read the script where the London Spitfire uses their entire savings from their season 1 finals win to bribe production to the finals and bribe Dragons to throw the game, making the Spitfire the best team in the league
forest raven
Shanghai got their ball rush working against Dallas' monkey rush in a fucking day after one game
After Dallas had been playing monkey rush the entire tournament
devout path
It’s rush
forest raven
Lucio/Moira/Reaper
forest raven
Ball was obviously less rushy because ball
remote siren
I think dallas can adapt enough to shanghai
If shanghai can do it
why can't Dallas?
forest raven
Dallas has a good sombra comp
forest raven
But Shanghai has experience against sombra comps so
remote siren
in league
remote siren
But
lip gets an emp
3 times before you get one
he hits one every emp
that equals 3 hits per your emp
🧠
hot onyx
Oh boy, it sure is effective to use your ultimate to get the same value as a manual hack
🧠
remote siren
His efficency
is actually 3.1
emp
If you get charge it that quicky, why not?
By the time they're gonna push again you have another one
devout path
Oh boy, it sure is effective to use your ultimate to get the same value as a man...
Solo emps are very good
hot onyx
Solo emps are very good
Lily I have seen several people say that on Twitter unironically don’t toy with me pls
hot onyx
Solo manual hacks are also good
remote siren
You have low standards
hot onyx
Milf
remote siren
So you put your dick in anything?
hot onyx
Anything that legally makes me your stepdad yes
How does it feel to have a stepdad who cannot consume alcohol legally?
hot onyx
Then I would rob a liquor store and share a cell with her
north relic
Overwatch league right
hot onyx
Say “cringe” if you would bang Dark’s mom
hot onyx
Secks*
remote siren
You would still go to a male correctional facility, but now you;re woman
you're double sexy to them
hot onyx
No that is transphobic
remote siren
your ass would be turned into ground beef
devout path
Say “cringe” if you would bang Dark’s mom
Cringe
hot onyx
Then I would understand how your mom felt after a night with me
noble nexus
Say “cringe” if you would bang Dark’s mom
Cringe
north relic
Say “cringe” if you would bang Dark’s mom
Cringe
remote siren
I don't think a one pump chump is capable of pleasing a woman
gaunt acorn
enough of this
hot onyx
Ok admin
remote siren
Ok admin
remote siren
I miss the hot boys, and the cool format
north relic
Anyone else miss Korean Contenders?
?? What happened to it
remote siren
I dont miss the venues
2019 contenders
was the best
not even a competition to be honest
2019 korean contenders was the best competitve overwatch league at the time
better than owl
The talent was also the best
hot onyx
?? What happened to it
Idk but no matches have aired since the ||O2 Blast vs Talon ESports|| finals
Whereas EU, NA and China Contenders are airing regularly
Particularly NA and EU
My guess is organising a new format or another team since Runaway disbanded
sullen berry
Finally, some good fucking content https://youtu.be/A9U2pJvOu-w
I don't disagree with top 5 but even I think Choisehwan's impact is getting fair credit
hot onyx
SILVER3 NOT IN THE TOP 3!?!?
This guys opinion is meaningless
Actual embarrassment to the community
sullen berry
Atlanta Reign is not OWL level, as fanboy-triggering as that sounds. People loved them for their underdog streak, Sephy's coaching and their vibrant brand/personality, but expecting them to get to Summer Showdown is very unrealistic. They still have to actually win something first.
What an embarrassment Viol2t or Jake wasn't even considered
tropic herald
Just give Pelican roty already
sullen berry
I'm confident he can earn it like everyone else
willow tartan
just give shy roty already*
tropic herald
There’s only one rookie on both teams currently ranked one in each region
willow tartan
develop 
forest raven
No one on Dallas is a rookie
sullen berry
Shock neither
I don't think that ANS kid who replaced Strike is going to make difference
abstract nova
devout path
That ans kid is trash
remote siren
When pine comes through
hot onyx
If* Pine comes through
remote siren
he has potential to the best hitscan in the league, he was pretty much rivaling prime carpe all of season 1
But the game has changed lots since then
IDK
sullen berry
Dat ans
devout path
Carpe > pine
remote siren
at widow
sullen berry
Okay Season MVP time
remote siren
Pine was the mcree in the league in season 1
sullen berry
Carpe just comes up for the third time
devout path
Jjonak best cree trust
willow tartan
ew
sullen berry
Sado best hitscan on the roster before Aspire
willow tartan
viol2t cree
remote siren
viol2t cree was pretty bad
remote siren
he tried to make solo plays on cree
devout path
Izayaki cree
devout path
Alarm cree
sullen berry
Cr0ng Widowmaker
remote siren
Gesture widow?
willow tartan
izayaki would roll viol2t on cree
devout path
Carpe Winston?
sullen berry
Alarm symmetra
devout path
Bumper lucio
devout path
Benbest genji
sullen berry
Colourhex Coach
willow tartan
highbee dva
devout path
Highbee anything
sullen berry
MOLANRAN MOIRA
devout path
Silver3 wrecking ball
willow tartan
checkmate genji
sullen berry
Krystal 20M fine
devout path
Krystal sigma
willow tartan
libero billionaire
devout path
Haksal hog
sullen berry
Stylosa Brig
devout path
Karq rein
willow tartan
fdgod actually playing on shock
sullen berry
Jinmu's Dragonblade, just the ultimate
sullen berry
Rascal's bench
devout path
Architect dva
north relic
This is some intellectual conversation
devout path
Ur too dumb to understand
north relic
Yes
sullen berry
Onigod Baptiste
devout path
Kaan widow
hot onyx
Dalton ball
devout path
Ameng zen
raw ermine
Cockwave Ballton Torture DPS line
next mesa
sullen berry
KuKi should off role onto Main Tank
Sick and tied of OGE not playing Junkrat, his main role
remote siren
Mano is the best mt of all time
dont @ me
best main tank in season 2, top 3 in season 1 and 3
Top 5 in season 4
remote siren
He was def better sado
Sado could play rein better than him
Mano had everything else
feral zodiac
You're putting mano over fate that season?
tawdry hamlet
As much as I love the players I don't really rate any of s3 nyxl very high they had extremely mediocre seasons
Still love haksal and libero though 😭
willow tartan
haksal whoru libero dps lineup btw
tawdry hamlet
Crazy out of all of those whoru is the only one still in the league lmaoo
feral zodiac
Iibero?
next mesa
I mean
that dps line is kinda overrated when they dont have a strong hitscan
not really any doom genji metas either
feral zodiac
Libero is still in the league isn't he
next mesa
Anamo?
feral zodiac
Anamo
next mesa
Toyou?
willow tartan
that dps line is kinda overrated when they dont have a strong hitscan
if only nyxl could have 3 genjis on the field at the same time
triple support triple genji
next mesa
actually ez dub
tawdry hamlet
It is unfortunate they had haksal libero whoru nenne when the only metas were tracer ashe lmao
hot onyx
Holy fucking shit Lily is poop coloured
devout path
I’m just cringe
raw ermine
cringe role
cringe colour
hot onyx
I’m just cringe
devout path
Never been wrong
hot onyx
Never been wrong
Would you like to repeat that statement?
devout path
Would you like to repeat that statement?
I’m cringe why would u believe me
hot onyx
I’m cringe why would u believe me
I wouldn’t
devout path
I wouldn’t
Exactly
hot onyx
He just isn’t good either
Honestly half of KR Contenders main tanks should be in the league over StandDumb
Kellan
YaHo
Someone
Might be a stretch to say Belosrea
next mesa
Titans only deserve masters players
hot onyx
Idk I just want the team with GaeBullSsi to succeed
next mesa
They should just go off themselves off a fucking cliff
Lowkey titans org should just shoot themselves in the head
i mean
they're already doing that
"hey guys lets re-sign roolf and then sign this very good veteran talent linkzr 🥴 "
hot onyx
+Scatlanta benchwarmers and a main tank who hasn’t played at a pro level in 2 years
next mesa
hey guys lets drop a championship level team and one of the most beloved rosters in ow esports history
hot onyx
Nah dude
They dropped them to give some new rookie talent a hot chance at stardom
So kind ☺️
devout path
Idk I just want the team with GaeBullSsi to succeed
GBS simp
willow tartan
they dropped them so other teams could finally field good rosters
boring if only two teams had good players
devout path
More of a simp than u
True
hot onyx
I am a bigger fan of your teams off tank than you are
vagrant cargo
stand1 hasng looked bad recently imo
vagrant cargo
yeah becausw glads when they arent boomed
are insane
but then we decide to choke vs fraudtlanta
noble nexus
glads don't get boomed
noble nexus
they just listen to dpei more sometimes
vagrant cargo
LMFAO
noble nexus
sometimes they mute him in teamspeak and play well
and then they unmute him for map 5 and play some weird pharah shit
even tho they rolled one of the best rush teams on rush
a round earlier
dpei is a literal fraud
dude has been scamming gladiators out of good performances for years
vagrant cargo
wallahi
hot onyx
also hot take ig but izayaki>alarm rn
Honestly Izayaki only looks better rn because he is on the better team, imo if they swapped teams Alarm would look slightly better and Izayaki would look slightly worse
next mesa
who cares both godly
hot onyx
Top 3 fs rn (no particular order) is probably Alarm Izayaki and Fielder
noble nexus
Roolf? :(
feral zodiac
Is iris in the debate for top 5
noble nexus
ah shit right
hot onyx
So he is higher than 1st
next mesa
id argue iris > shu this season
noble nexus
id argue iris > shu this season
😔
hot onyx
The list was not including Roolf or else it would’ve been unfair
feral zodiac
Iris has been killing it this season
noble nexus
idk I still think Shu is better but Iris has like powered up
next mesa
imo imo
shu didnt play too hot against atlanta that is true
Iris looks good almost every game
hot onyx
Honestly I thought Atlanta support line was gonna be bottom 10
So from my expectations they hella good
next mesa
given masaa's history i mean not that hot
feral zodiac
Twilight is still top 5
noble nexus
idk haven't seen enough twilight to know that
he probably would be if he played more
also playing twilight more is like the best thing shock can do rn imo
viol2t just isn't it when his MS also turbo ints
willow tartan
avast is actually agreeing that shanghai is good this tourney on platchat wtf
unbelieveable
vagrant cargo
id argue iris > shu this season
lol
iris was mediocre in may melee and then looked good but not incredible at any poont
point
while shu has been crazy most of zhe time
tawdry hamlet
I would say alarm isn't top 3 because philly loses so much but dude watching his pov he's fucking crazy
Like if you watch his ana play he hits nearly every single important sleep
remote siren
Fusion suck
they had a super team
Like there were so many unbeatable super teams coming into this
FUsion
justice
fuel
Glads
tawdry hamlet
I've been thinking, maybe philly isn't used to running ball comps and they keep fucking up on them
next mesa
Idk man mano's ball was nice last season what happened
remote siren
It's like
every nyxl player
gets worse after season 2
Mano used to be the best mt in the league but now......
little tusk
skill level always rises
big bet if sayaplayer came back he wouldn't be as amazing anymore
pretty sure pine will be dissappointing as well
tawdry hamlet
Pine still has aim at least if that means anything
plush grail
doesn't change too much
tawdry hamlet
Since he did almost match lip in a 1v1 which doesn't directly translate but he still can hit shots is my point
little tusk
ya but usually players in general get better at aiming as well
plush grail
how lmao
next mesa
u still improve your aim by simply practicing
tawdry hamlet
Shus Money Cru is lowkey owning british hurricane
oooof
Hybrid just got the 3k doomfist save lmaoo
who woulda thought
god damn doomfist is strong af still
contenders always find his value because the instant punch kills do so much for their comps
no fucking way british hurricane won this
lmaoo
feral zodiac
I always thought hybrid was an offtank player
tawdry hamlet
I mean he makes such little impact on hitscan you wouldn't even notice
but no he is ok in tier 2
but in owl he just gets dumpstered so hard
I unironically like eu contenders because they play rush but they don't run mei sym or mei cree they switch it up sometimes because they are so comfy on the comp they will run anything with rush
willow tartan
yeah fuck sym rush
tawdry hamlet
yeah
like I hate mei comps because it just feels like blizzard to win
but sym comps
I despise
because it is just laser beam boring to watch man
devout path
Beam go brrr
next mesa
lily ur color makes me wanna vomit
raw ermine
they're the only cringe person
tawdry hamlet
I just realized the shock only have 4 more games this season to get it together
sadge
what do I use as copium now
I forgot how short this season was
willow tartan
I just realized the shock only have 4 more games this season to get it together
copium is that shock can get in during the post season play ins and win the championship anyway
balmy wolf
they're the only cringe person
Luigi is cringe
raw ermine
humanity is cringe
kind ridge
all of us are cringe
le cringe is real
next mesa
danteh top 3 tracer all time? wtf no
raw ermine
all time? SBB, profit, striker, no order
next mesa
about right
balmy wolf
thxxxx rip glads f for the gang
hot onyx
all time? SBB, profit, striker, no order
cough Logix
tepid ibex
I’d argue that in apac alone theirs like 4/5 better tracers than him
Tho he’s still decent
Fleta, lip, profit, leave and maybe sbb all have really clean tracers
Wait leave plays tracer right
Idk if I’m just delusional
tawdry hamlet
He could be if we'd actually see him play and if profit wasn't way better at tracer than most of the league
stuck radish
including profit is cheating because hes top 10 at literally every dps hero in the game
god tier player
little tusk
decay > profit
balmy wolf
Profit plays for dynasty right but dynasty is trash team bro
raw ermine
he does play for them, they are mid table
balmy wolf
When I support dynasty they always lose so I lost hopes 😭
feral zodiac
Why is sbb in the conversation for current best tracers
The man is permanently benched
willow tartan
what is sbb gonna do when profit exists
feral zodiac
What is sbb gonna do when half the tracers in the league exist
willow tartan
profit can play anything he plays but better
feral zodiac
Is it a hot take to put aspire in top 5 tracers
feral zodiac
Who gets in over him
willow tartan
profit lip fleta leave yaki have been great tracers this season
i havent watched much aspire though
like he could become better in the future but i dont think rn
feral zodiac
profit lip fleta leave yaki have been great tracers this season
Where is sp9rkle :(
willow tartan
who would you rate sparkle over in the top 5
feral zodiac
Right now, profit or leave
willow tartan
mm
feral zodiac
Probably profit
willow tartan
maybe we will see in the chengdu vs dallas match
what will dallas even run
cuz we know chengdu is gonna stick with their ball tracer comp
feral zodiac
Doesn't matter what chengdu runs, they cannot stand in front of the burning blue
willow tartan
nah bro
i think they take a map or two
if leave can fuck as hard as he has been doing
feral zodiac
Have any of the teams played yet for the tournament
willow tartan
no
it starts in 2 days
dallas will probs force their sym comp
but because loser can pick map
i think chengdu will win at least one cmonn
feral zodiac
Nahhh
willow tartan
whats ur bracket pred?
feral zodiac
3-0 shanghai and fuel, fuel vs shanghai is 3-1 to shanghai, fuel wins losers bracket 3-1, final is 3-2 to dragons
Atlanta vs chengdu could legit go either way
willow tartan
finals is first to 4
willow tartan
you literally couldnt have set it as your bracket if you had neither team with 4 map wins
maybe it didnt save
feral zodiac
I thought it saved automatically
feral zodiac
Bruh
feral zodiac
Ok
vagrant cargo
Right now, profit or leave
profit? LMAOOO
vagrant cargo
top 3 rn i can see
i wouldnt put someone who got beaten up by tsuna on tracer top 3 but thats just me
willow tartan
profit too good
rain widget
feral zodiac
profit? LMAOOO
?
vagrant cargo
profit jasnt been top 5 at all this season
feral zodiac
I never said profit was top 5
vagrant cargo
id take pelican leave kevster fleta sp9rk1e over him in a heartbeat
feral zodiac
That is literally the point I made
feral zodiac
Gl with them
raw ermine
I prolly shouldn't have trusted chengdu again but oh well
willow tartan
id take pelican leave kevster fleta sp9rk1e over him in a heartbeat
dawg pelican doesn't even play tracer
you're trippin
raw ermine
prolly meant edison
vagrant cargo
dawg pelican doesn't even play tracer
1.he does
2.i thought this was abt fdps in general
if we only talk tracer put yaki in instead
noble nexus
Tbf when you said that he was on a hot streak of decent performances
Rn he isn’t a top 5 fdps tho lol
earnest leaf
iirc profit is a flashy dps player
Has moments where he just ultra big dicks people
and then chills most of the time playing decently
noble nexus
Yeahhh he has really hot streaks and then just hot streaks
balmy wolf
others players have gotten better
next mesa
profit the goat
balmy wolf
profit these days is above average with some of the highest peaks a player can have
tawdry hamlet
profit these days is above average with some of the highest peaks a player can h...
this is how I think about fits tbh
devout path
Fits profit is still a top 2 dps combo
earnest leaf
Speaking of dps
Who would you guys say is the best dps line in NA
imo it's between glads/reign/shock
earnest leaf
mans called ans average
earnest leaf
well yea he came mid way through and we haven't had a meta for him
trail perch
Shock is quite average
earnest leaf
I can see taking reign dps line over shock, but saying they are tiers lower is a bit far
especially as of late when shock's issues haven't even been dps related
earnest leaf
nah you're just baiting at this point
barren quest
Nero isn't even a problem
earnest leaf
Nero has been one of the better parts of shock this season
tawdry hamlet
Nero literally echo diffed dallas lmao
he is capable of playing fine
shock just ass
trail perch
His Mei is not good.
barren quest
Main problem with Shock right now is their constant roster swaps and Violet being forced on MS over FDgod
trail perch
Very clearly
earnest leaf
His mei looked shaky at the start but definitely looks completely fine now
tawdry hamlet
also fits profit are overrated as hell if you have them top 2 lmaoo
devout path
Sparkle echo overrated
tawdry hamlet
they are like top 5 this season at best
earnest leaf
His Mei is not good.
I'm also like 99% sure you just hate shock 
devout path
also fits profit are overrated as hell if you have them top 2 lmaoo
Taking flexibility into consideration
devout path
Ye
tawdry hamlet
yeah but when was the last time you needed more than echo tracer mei and like one other rare change in meta