esports-discussion

[willow tartan]

Hangzhou is playing like uhh

their win con is wait for their DPS to kill something

[little tusk]

does anyone else hate the intermezzo musiv

[willow tartan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zaqwIGu6mY

Didn't need izayaki to win

[remote siren]

If nyxl werent 4 rookies they would be 4 0 right now

[ebon aurora]

is NYXL the #2 in APAC rn?

they look good

[severe tusk]

if ny picked up the whole fuel roster they would be one of the best teams in the league

[real gyro]

no lmao

seoul are

then hunters

[severe tusk]

i think in this meta chengdu and seoul are in contention for 2nd

[little tusk]

thats a jam

[willow tartan]

Certified banger

[ebon aurora]

the music between maps this season has been so good

[willow tartan]

Shanghai rein rush pog

wtf Hangzhou just let them walk to point

[severe tusk]

leejaegon lmao

[forest raven]

Baited

[willow tartan]

how did Hangzhou just

do that

[severe tusk]

^^ what

[willow tartan]

Leejaegon fragged lol

Diff

[north relic]

why is seominsoo playing more

[cursive plover]

for his sombra ig?

[willow tartan]

ye

his Sombra player

[cursive plover]

can we talk about shd using 6 ults

[forest raven]

Shanghai rush definitely not better than shanghai ball and shanghai poke

[cursive plover]

mhmmm

[willow tartan]

shy ??

[ebon aurora]

SMS genji?

have we seen this before

[willow tartan]

may melee flashbacks

guxue has been oppressive with these primals yo

you love to see it

[barren quest]

Fleta on tha Reaper guy

[willow tartan]

cree go brrrrrr

[cursive plover]

Spark is holding out nicely

[willow tartan]

so anyone wanna tell me why they keep nanoing the cree

[sullen berry]

cree was dying

[ebon aurora]

good hold

[willow tartan]

actually hold pog

[sullen berry]

first nano on the high ground

that was to speed up high noon

[severe tusk]

winnable by hz?

[remote siren]

I never understood 2cp

you get 3

[sullen berry]

definitely winnable

[remote siren]

then they stall and 3 people come back

[willow tartan]

2cp except if you lose more than 1 player you won't cap

[remote siren]

frim better respawn

Like you can win the fight

[sullen berry]

depends on how aggressive shy and idk can be without dying first

[willow tartan]

feels like every engage Shanghai does guxue has primal

spawn camping let's gooo

LIP emp cancel

[ebon aurora]

lip's EMP got cancelled

[willow tartan]

bruhhb

[ebon aurora]

what a shield bash

[willow tartan]

idk dif

[forest raven]

Lip's emps

lole

[willow tartan]

Huge eat

[severe tusk]

how'd fleta survive

[sullen berry]

that's three ultimates shut down by hangzhou

Void's self destruct cancelled essentially with that death

[willow tartan]

Leejaegon asserting brig dominance

[sullen berry]

countered seominsoo's pulse bomb, not fleta's mb

[willow tartan]

Notttt even close 😎

[cursive plover]

damn you shd

[willow tartan]

Dude guxue keeps fucking so hard

[quaint aurora]

wait they're on offline?

that's so fucking cool

[balmy wolf]

someone explain how the fuck spark didnt take that

[willow tartan]

Live in Shanghai

[cursive plover]

guxue really fucking everyone up

[severe tusk]

shanghai homestand

[remote siren]

Only reason spark made it close is coz 2cp cancer tumor gamemode

[balmy wolf]

like guxue cant fuck hard enough

[severe tusk]

sucks to be the spark rip

[remote siren]

its worse than hybrid

[willow tartan]

guxue the great hope of China 🙏

[sullen berry]

Shy can't go all in harder

[severe tusk]

shanghai played the point B defense almost to perfection

[remote siren]

@willow tartan y u shanghai fan?

[quaint aurora]

wtf I can't wait for NA to go back to offline

the hype is gonna be huge

[willow tartan]

I first started supporting them when I saw how crazy their split comps were

like the coordination n macro play insane

[remote siren]

Im an og season 1 fan

[cursive plover]

season 1 shd

[remote siren]

I supported them for the meme

[willow tartan]

Macro play is the most impressive thing in ow

[cursive plover]

definitely

[remote siren]

No, it positioning

[willow tartan]

that's part of macro

[quaint aurora]

micro plays are harder to understand

[willow tartan]

micro plays are half luck half mechanics

macro play is team coordination and coaching

[remote siren]

There's three things in overwatch game sense, positiing, and mechanics

Macro is a mix of game sense and positioning

[willow tartan]

analysing overwatch is kinda poggers

like a chess match

that's where it's really cool

[severe tusk]

soon IBM watson will become a coach

[cursive plover]

I love how analytical people can be about the game

[willow tartan]

dude watching a properly executed dive is so sexy

Or a set play

[cursive plover]

y e s

[willow tartan]

Like the Nexus cup Shanghai vs Dallas on volskaya

the ball bomb set play was gorgeous

[remote siren]

I think there are better strategic game then ow

Every watch starcraft?

Or League?

Those games are inamous for being all macro

[quaint aurora]

okay architect is in

[remote siren]

overwatch is a mix of macro and micro

[willow tartan]

I'm not a fan of monas

mobas

[cursive plover]

What makes ow unique is the fact that it's still a fps

[remote siren]

A toxic fps

[willow tartan]

Every multiplayer game is toxic

Thats the reality of the internet.

[remote siren]

But its the most toxic

[quaint aurora]

nah

[willow tartan]

It's on you whether or not you want to be affected by it

[quaint aurora]

imo ow is in the least toxic fps games

[willow tartan]

That title goes to cod lol

[quaint aurora]

I've had a lot worse experiences in valorant and in csgo

[remote siren]

COD is a casual game

[quaint aurora]

and r6 siege

[willow tartan]

So is Overwatch

[remote siren]

No, most ow players came from csgo

[willow tartan]

A majority of OW players are casual players

[quaint aurora]

?

[willow tartan]

They play QP

[quaint aurora]

??

[severe tusk]

i've just started getting into valorant and the community is awful tbh

[quaint aurora]

ayup

but yeah idk what you're saying but I don't think most ow players came from csgo

probably either tf2 or first game

first fps*

[willow tartan]

all the toxic ow players went to valorant 😎

[severe tusk]

to join all the csgo players :)

[willow tartan]

Lol as if any CSGO players went to valorsnt.

[severe tusk]

uh

[remote siren]

csgo loves csgo

[quaint aurora]

just the top players that got bored of cs

[willow tartan]

The only CSGO players that went to Valorant were the ones with dying careers.

[severe tusk]

i'm talking about the casual playerbase

[willow tartan]

Like all the pros moving to Valo were washed CS players

[severe tusk]

not the sen roster

[remote siren]

We're talking about toxicity

toxic people are found in comp

[willow tartan]

Before the days of competitive matchmaking people were toxic anyway

[remote siren]

But overwatch isnt as toxic as the games back then

[quaint aurora]

or just unpopular players that left to find a new audience

like tenz

[remote siren]

sc2 players could tell you they hope ur mom gets gang raped and that was a normal thing

[quaint aurora]

this is tough

this is really rough

feels bad for spark

[remote siren]

if you played protoss you were ddosed

[severe tusk]

yeah... oof

[willow tartan]

Tenz went to Valo because cloud9 collapsed their CS roster and needed players for Valo I thought

[sullen berry]

AverageJonas did a lot in the EU Overwatch scene for Team Norway

nowadays he's a content creator for liquid and gets all the Valorant agent previews and dinks people on Hanzo Sova

[willow tartan]

Like cloud 9 pulled out of CSGO entirely so tenz had to either follow or lose his career

[severe tusk]

i think he didn't find much success in CS so he couldn't easily find a new CS team

[quaint aurora]

he was still extremely unpopular in cs

glad he found his audience

[willow tartan]

I mean for sure because I know next to nothing about him lol

[quaint aurora]

I don't like valorant but glad he's getting known in that game

[willow tartan]

I wonder what ljg rally charge time is

Jesus Christ

Massive bionade

[quaint aurora]

wtf

[willow tartan]

excuse me shy

[severe tusk]

SHY

[willow tartan]

shy???

[quaint aurora]

oh

they might win this map

[willow tartan]

come on Shanghai it's only high ground

you got this

Bigg

Ripzayaki

pfft

full hold incoming 💪

[severe tusk]

great B defense

but like

[quaint aurora]

I'm for spark on this one

[severe tusk]

we also said that after hanamura

[quaint aurora]

they are popping a lot more

[willow tartan]

Shy cracked

[quaint aurora]

that was sick

[willow tartan]

Shanghai bunker let's go

[quaint aurora]

a little feeding

it's called we do a little feeding

JESUS GUXUE

[willow tartan]

guxue is farming

every engage apparently

[quaint aurora]

doubt

they do win this tho

[sullen berry]

well they need to break it to map 5

[willow tartan]

nah Shanghai got this map trust

[sullen berry]

They need Gibraltar and Lijiang, both are not heavily in their favour in a mirror

[quaint aurora]

he has primal every fight wtf

[willow tartan]

now that izayaki is on the ana he can use nano for tempo

Fayte???

huggeee stick wtf

literally assassination

[quaint aurora]

architect

oh my lip

lip what a fucking weirdo

[willow tartan]

No nano or primal

Dragons surely win this

[quaint aurora]

ggs

they have rally

[willow tartan]

WTF

[quaint aurora]

SHY

LETS A GO

[willow tartan]

LJG why didn't you rally earlier

[quaint aurora]

NO SHOT

??????

SHY

WTF????

[willow tartan]

[quaint aurora]

SHY JUST POPS OFF LIKE A WEIRDO

WINNABLE

[sullen berry]

nice

[quaint aurora]

LETS GO SPARK

[severe tusk]

SHY

[quaint aurora]

NICEUUUUUUUU

[severe tusk]

and guxue

[remote siren]

fuck

nooooo

[willow tartan]

Why the fuck didn't LeeJaeGon match IDK's rally?????

[severe tusk]

DOMINATED THIS MAP

[ivory stag]

pog

[tacit skiff]

reverse sweep incoming

[sullen berry]

shanghai fans in the crowd don't just watch two 3-0s

[quaint aurora]

WE DON'T LOSE ON HOLLYWOOD

[ivory stag]

Is this where we say dragons washed cause they dropped a map?

[willow tartan]

Someone explain this to me

[sullen berry]

hopefully there's more lip v shy 1v1s

[remote siren]

we were this close

to a golden stage

this close

but spark had to ruin it

fuuuuuuuck

[tacit skiff]

just get better

[ivory stag]

rekt

[tacit skiff]

lmao

[willow tartan]

Hangzhou had no tools

[ivory stag]

spark > drags

[willow tartan]

Shanghai had rally and nano

[remote siren]

That was a sweep for sure

[willow tartan]

they didn't match the rally

instantly died

wtf

[remote siren]

If they use their ults

We sweep

[ivory stag]

i feel winston dva beats orisa dva any day especially with ana

[sullen berry]

THE GOLDEN STAGE IS BROKEN FOR SHANGHAI

[willow tartan]

Shanghai is just avoiding the 4-0 curse guys 😎

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai left to hang

[sullen berry]

[ivory stag]

[remote siren]

Spark just lose

[tacit skiff]

who cares about this match tbh, we already know Shanghai is in the tournie

[willow tartan]

Dude that was so close to winnable

[tacit skiff]

I'm more excited about the west

[ebon aurora]

shanghai are mortal

[willow tartan]

they should've matched the rally as soon as they heard idk rally

last fight basically

[remote siren]

Then use their ults to end it

[ivory stag]

Anyone else like me where they don't really have a fav team they just see who is going at it and picks one they like a little more than other each time?

[remote siren]

You orisa ult

[willow tartan]

Bongo + nano + rally

how do you lose that

[tacit skiff]

sounds like bandwagoning

[ivory stag]

nah cause i dont go for the favorite all time

i go for who ever i feel i like more that match

[remote siren]

@willow tartan maybe getting a golden stage is cursed

[willow tartan]

All that for a drop of blood?

[tacit skiff]

this is gonna be an interesting summer showdown

[remote siren]

No it isnt

[quaint aurora]

just bad

you lose that by being bad

[remote siren]

It's fuel vs dragons

[quaint aurora]

prolly

[willow tartan]

Shy actually just long schlong slapped LJG

holy Jesus

[north relic]

Does chengdu avoid shd in knockouts

[willow tartan]

Yea

[remote siren]

Their one map loss came from a super mega grief

sadge

[willow tartan]

They fight seoul

[north relic]

Is nyxl going to be the 4th seed?

[remote siren]

Yes

unless spark reverse sweeps

🤡

[tacit skiff]

hopium

last thing I want is another boring tournie where Shanghai never struggles

I'm rooting for Seoul

[real gyro]

pretty sure shanghai struggled a bit the last 2 tourneys since they lost to dallas 3 times

[remote siren]

4 times

[tacit skiff]

everyone loses to Dallas

nothing new

[quaint aurora]

guxue can win this

[tacit skiff]

xqc would be proud

[willow tartan]

boom shanghai? impossible srry

[quaint aurora]

omegalul

[tacit skiff]

this Washington v Gladiators game is gonna be real intense for Shock fans

[quaint aurora]

I'm not sure shock can threepeat

they need a break

[north relic]

Rip the golden stage

[tacit skiff]

They still have a very impressive record, even if they aren't winning tournies

[willow tartan]

Fuck the golden stage I need more owl tokens to buy the ana skin

[tacit skiff]

imagine not owning the ana skin already

[quaint aurora]

TRUE

[raw ermine]

LAV had the anti-golden stage

[north relic]

I get like 400 tokens a tourney

[willow tartan]

bronze stage

[raw ermine]

bronze is too generous

[north relic]

Cardboard stage

[tacit skiff]

they need to give a tank a tournie skin
enough of the squishies

turn Reinhardt into a gladiator or smth

[north relic]

Yes but the recent all star skins and hog have gotten owl skins already

[tacit skiff]

all star skins suck ass

change my mind

[quaint aurora]

depends

like the dva and rein skin?

and tracer mercy?

[willow tartan]

wait guys you know what this means

Hangzhou > philly and seoul

[quaint aurora]

NICEU

[tacit skiff]

everyone is better than philly no cap

[quaint aurora]

LETS GO SPARK

[willow tartan]

Bob MVP

[tacit skiff]

I wish I could see certain apac teams go against certain na teams

[quaint aurora]

in your opinion who's the best main healer

[north relic]

Shanghai just avoiding 4-0 smart

[willow tartan]

Best main support in the league is obviously LJG

[north relic]

Have you seen highbee

[quaint aurora]

guxue is really insane

[willow tartan]

10 environmental kills on one map btw

[tacit skiff]

That was one time

[quaint aurora]

winnable

ah nvm

guxue gone ggs

[north relic]

If nyxl beat spark that means nyxl>Seoul

[tacit skiff]

Chinese owl twitter fans are smth else

[feral zodiac]

Valiant had the wood stage

[tacit skiff]

Valiant have won all the maps they've needed to, to prevent Philly from doing anything :)

I see Philly as the Shock of the apac region
washed
but
still fighting

[quaint aurora]

ah fuck

[little tusk]

oh lets go hangzhou actually won a match

[ivory stag]

lol

[sullen berry]

yup, a Shang9

[tacit skiff]

hangzhou can do this

I know they can

[ivory mason]

shanghai loses the match so they can avoid the 4-0 curse

[ivory stag]

get off brig...

[tacit skiff]

nano cree

nice

the boys in pink take checkpoint 1

[ivory stag]

thrown

[tacit skiff]

it was a good dream

[ivory stag]

i blame brig should have ana zen

[willow tartan]

Nott even close

[mortal cipher]

perfect pred

[willow tartan]

😎

[quaint aurora]

ah sibal

[tacit skiff]

the brig was questionable

[remote siren]

my pred ruin

i had dragons 3 0

[ivory stag]

good

lol

[tacit skiff]

you underestimate how bad the dragons can be

[sullen berry]

I had this Shanghai 3-1

nice

[remote siren]

It was looking like 3 0

[rotund cargo]

i had it the other way around

both teams played well

[tacit skiff]

alright, and in 5 hours, it's time for Boston

I can't wait

[willow tartan]

All the Hangzhou players popped the fuck off but Shanghai still wins 😎😎😎

[abstract nova]

Boston gonna win

[mortal cipher]

is shock out or does apac effect it

[real gyro]

Nah they out

[tacit skiff]

If Boston stomped Houston, they should win against Atlanta

[willow tartan]

yes

[tacit skiff]

If Washington wins a map, they're out

[mortal cipher]

ok so apac didnt effect it

[idle beacon]

Can he already stop kissin shy' s ass?

[willow tartan]

why would apac effect it

[mortal cipher]

idbk

[abstract nova]

I mean Shy was cracked

[mortal cipher]

didnt think so

[tacit skiff]

biased casters

tired of commentating Shanghai wins

[willow tartan]

hangzhou made god bleed mfw

hzs > Seoul and Philly 100%

tbf Valiant put more resistance though, so not as impressive

[mortal cipher]

leegaegon tower = not fun for the enemy

[tacit skiff]

real underdogs this stage were the Valiant confirmed

[mortal cipher]

they always are

[severe tusk]

chengdu beat valiant more convincingly than shanghai did

[willow tartan]

valiant did better against dragons than Seoul and Fusion

[severe tusk]

therefore chengdu > dragons

[mortal cipher]

hwo so

[abstract nova]

Valiant didn't win a single map, oof

[willow tartan]

they won a submap

[mortal cipher]

oop

[willow tartan]

on control

[mortal cipher]

yeah a sub map

[willow tartan]

and got more percentage

[abstract nova]

oh ye

[willow tartan]

than Seoul and philly

[mortal cipher]

oof

[tacit skiff]

Bring me back to the season 1 Valiant

[willow tartan]

dragons on the warpath to the summer showdown

[mortal cipher]

i would like all teams being good

fr

[north relic]

Granted but you get season one shanghai

[willow tartan]

they fight nyxl in the knockouts

[mortal cipher]

dragons and dallas going 4-nil

[tacit skiff]

Y'KNOW WHO ELSE IS ON A WARPATH

[mortal cipher]

boston lol

[tacit skiff]

THAT'S RIGHT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND EVERYTHING IN-BETWEEN

[willow tartan]

so they should 3-0 nyxl

[mortal cipher]

easily

[north relic]

I mean nyxl beat spark

[tacit skiff]

IT'S TIME FOR BOSTON TO GET THAT SWEET SWEET SOUTHERN STYLE REVENGE

[willow tartan]

fusion lost to nyxl btw

[north relic]

And spark for a map off shanghai

[mortal cipher]

but how did they 3-1 philly again

[willow tartan]

nah spark beat nyxl

[north relic]

Wait did they

[mortal cipher]

yea sadly

[north relic]

I forgot

[willow tartan]

carpe sombra eqo tracer btw

[quaint aurora]

not sure about the ana skin tbh

[mortal cipher]

philly why you do this to me

[tacit skiff]

if Boston lose I'll eat my shoe on camera, someone sc this

[mortal cipher]

whyyy???

[quaint aurora]

nvm the gun is sick

[north relic]

If you have as many tokens as me you always buy these skins

[mortal cipher]

same

[north relic]

The scope is nice

[mortal cipher]

i have around 600+

[willow tartan]

share some tokens bro

[mortal cipher]

heh

sorry

[quaint aurora]

yeah spare some tokens for a homie

[tacit skiff]

I've gotten like 500 this season

[north relic]

I have like 200 because I’m trying to get every league skin for rein

[mortal cipher]

i dont spend em except for the tourney skins

[willow tartan]

ur just keeping 600+ for the all stars and mvp skins

[north relic]

Oh yea

[tacit skiff]

200 towards team skins, 200 to the ana skin, 100 still in the bank

[north relic]

I should save now

[mortal cipher]

im not sure which shd skin to get next

[abstract nova]

maybe I should link my account, the allstar skins are pretty cool

[willow tartan]

ball o7

[mortal cipher]

last time i couldnt get both all star skins because i bough shd genji

[north relic]

No point not to

[mortal cipher]

you know it

[tacit skiff]

always remember to save up 200 owl tokens before the season ends so you can get the champ skin

[willow tartan]

Shy was cracked that series

He forced LIP off Sombra

to match HS

[mortal cipher]

yeah messed that up last time

[willow tartan]

then without that EMP it made things more challenging

[mortal cipher]

but i didnt get live at the time so sad

[tacit skiff]

I wanted that Winston London skin so bad

[mortal cipher]

i wanted the fleta

[willow tartan]

just buy it lol

it's like 10 dollars

[mortal cipher]

all i have is all star dva and sinatraa zarya

[tacit skiff]

I had so many issues connecting my battlenet account to twitch

[abstract nova]

Does the account you link to have to have the same email?

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[willow tartan]

No

[tacit skiff]

YouTube is so much easier

[mortal cipher]

yeah it is

[willow tartan]

Your YouTube account email and battle net email can be different

[mortal cipher]

oh rlly

wpw

[willow tartan]

You just gotta watch on the acc it's linked to

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tacit skiff]

it crazy he has a skin

[willow tartan]

dva is a she

[mortal cipher]

how come he was mvp

[abstract nova]

ok I think I linked it

[tacit skiff]

I'm just saying

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[willow tartan]

anyway moving on

[tacit skiff]

Sinatraas done some questionable shizz

[willow tartan]

let's talk about knockout preds

[mortal cipher]

although i didnt like how he dipped after even tho there were reasons

[willow tartan]

Chengdu vs Seoul?

[mortal cipher]

ive seen but that was after

[willow tartan]

I think Seoul will win

[tacit skiff]

even still

[sullen berry]

nah the dip was justified

[abstract nova]

I mean, what can they do?

[mortal cipher]

i say seoul theyve beaten hunters so far

[abstract nova]

Should they just delete the skin?

[willow tartan]

Seoul will win yes

[tacit skiff]

not delete it
it's just an interesting piece of community lore

[mortal cipher]

he lose love for the game but it was still weird

[north relic]

They made it so people could refund it

[willow tartan]

Seoul and Dragons playoffs 🙏

[feral zodiac]

No, would very much piss off the people who spent money on it and kept it

[tacit skiff]

I do think it's awkward to see people using the skin nowadays

[abstract nova]

Yeah

[mortal cipher]

i still have it even tho i rarely use it

[tacit skiff]

I always forget that Doomfist got a champ skin
I never see anyone with it

[mortal cipher]

i barely play zarya much

[willow tartan]

Of course, you gotta rep the Shanghai Dragons zarya

[north relic]

Best zarya skin is frosted imo

[feral zodiac]

Btw how is shanghai vs spark going

[tacit skiff]

out

[feral zodiac]

Did shanghai win

[willow tartan]

over

3-1

[feral zodiac]

No golden stage

[sullen berry]

yes

[feral zodiac]

Trash team

[mortal cipher]

but i dont play zarya so if any tank got a team skin it be shd dva

[feral zodiac]

Paris r better

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai washed

[willow tartan]

Spark only won a map because Shanghai did an oopsie and forgot to press Q

[mortal cipher]

lol

[tacit skiff]

Boston gonna show them how to 3-0 a team

[mortal cipher]

they be well let them get a win

[north relic]

Who do Boston play next

[willow tartan]

literally Hangzhou had no ults all Shanghai needed to do was hit the nano button and the rally button

[mortal cipher]

atl

[willow tartan]

they didn't match the idk rally and then ljg gets picked off immediately so no rally

[north relic]

Preds?

[willow tartan]

such a throw tbh

Boston 3-0 Atlanta purely because fuck Atlanta.

[mortal cipher]

3-1 reign

[feral zodiac]

Worst team in apac

[mortal cipher]

if atl lose ill go insane

[tacit skiff]

Atlanta is just a worse Houston
There's no way Boston isn't prepared for this

[willow tartan]

Ye

[mortal cipher]

not that i aint already

[feral zodiac]

Valentine looks so fucking good

[willow tartan]

Fuck Atlanta

[mortal cipher]

why

[feral zodiac]

Go atlanta

[abstract nova]

I hope they bm Atlanta after 3-0 win : )

[feral zodiac]

Kai representing Britain

[tacit skiff]

They bm London sadge

[north relic]

Someone call marbel to defend Atlanta

[willow tartan]

silver stage :)

[tacit skiff]

Not even London deserves that bm

[mortal cipher]

i thought it was funny tho

[feral zodiac]

0-40 stage

[abstract nova]

London deserved it the least

[willow tartan]

0-42*

[mortal cipher]

london is halfway there

[feral zodiac]

Valiant going to make it 0-43

[abstract nova]

Idk why they did that to London of all teams lol

[willow tartan]

trueing

[north relic]

They explained it in the interview

[mortal cipher]

i think london is farther there than valiant and vancouver

[feral zodiac]

London will beat vancouver

[tacit skiff]

bcuz they could

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[feral zodiac]

Vancouver and valiant will not win a game this season

[abstract nova]

Ik, the spawncamp, and something something football

[feral zodiac]

Valiant won't win another map

[north relic]

Hot take valiant wins countdown cup

[tacit skiff]

London can still win a game this season

I believe in them

[feral zodiac]

So hot I was about to call you Chris Hemsworth

[abstract nova]

I mean they will play Vancouver right?

That should be a win for London

[tacit skiff]

mhm

[feral zodiac]

Yes

[tacit skiff]

should be*

London should've won the Shock game too

What I can't believe is that Vancouver took a map from Boston from Houston got 3-0d

[feral zodiac]

Vancouver > Houston

[abstract nova]

lul

[mortal cipher]

lol

[worn falcon]

Imagine philly losing to nyxl

[sullen berry]

when the atlantic rival dating back to season 1 stops for no one

[willow tartan]

we were on the verge of greatness. we were this close.

[sullen berry]

when fusion gatekept nyxl out of the grand finals in New York is the most savage BM of all time

both teams playing out their minds

to the point that JJonaK tried to clutch on legs on overtime

[willow tartan]

hangzhou has won more maps against shanghai than they have against NYXL btw

[sullen berry]

very selective wins, I'm sure

[mortal cipher]

wow

[north relic]

They both played each other three times right

[willow tartan]

yep

theyve won 5 maps against nyxl and 6 maps against shanghai

[mortal cipher]

so does nyxl move on

[willow tartan]

yep

[mortal cipher]

wow again

[willow tartan]

Shanghai vs NYXL and Chengdu vs Seoul

[mortal cipher]

oof

[tacit skiff]

jjonak needs to go on another team
the nyxl have gotten worse every season

[mortal cipher]

shanghai beat all of so it doesnt matter lol

[tacit skiff]

or just retire at this point

[mortal cipher]

hes been with nyxl since s1

or 2

[willow tartan]

jjonak is still good enough to compete

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[willow tartan]

and hes probably on a fat contract with NYE

[sullen berry]

Shanghai asking for a new friend who might be better competition in the Summer Showdown, Seoul baby

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[plush grail]

gf gone time 2 shitpost

[mortal cipher]

hes also the reason zen was nerfed iirc

[willow tartan]

(lets hope seoul doesnt get bullied by dallas)

[sullen berry]

seoul have a score to settle from 2019

[willow tartan]

trueing

[mortal cipher]

mpst ;ikely will

[sullen berry]

which I believe was the last time they faced off

no homestands really sucked the air out of that rivalry

[willow tartan]

Seoul and Shanghai, the APAC duo that everybody loves!

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[sullen berry]

which is abadoned since it's no longer Korea vs the world vibe

[willow tartan]

last years seoul vs shanghai grudge matches were fun as hell

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tacit skiff]

there's such an unbelievable gap between the skill in the teams in apac
and meanwhile in na, if you aren't Dallas, you're lucky to get a win streak going

[mortal cipher]

yea

[willow tartan]

ignoring the fact that hangzhou went 4-0 last stage

[mortal cipher]

like houston are good then dallas go fuk you

[willow tartan]

or that philly went 4-0 the stage before

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tacit skiff]

washed teams

[willow tartan]

so is houston and shock

[tacit skiff]

Boston gonna be summer showdown champions pog

[mortal cipher]

lol

imagine

[tacit skiff]

Boston vs NYXL grand finals

[willow tartan]

i can see it

[mortal cipher]

heh

[sullen berry]

did you tell her to back that ass up like silver3 with a pulse bomb?
https://youtu.be/kU9Krlra1Fk?t=502

[willow tartan]

boston can beat atlanta

[mortal cipher]

its possible

if you can beat houston

[willow tartan]

houston is better atlanta

[mortal cipher]

atl is possible

[willow tartan]

so yes they can

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[plush grail]

hell yeah

[mortal cipher]

if they 3-nil houston then atl is not shocking

[tacit skiff]

I think the real challenge for Boston will be the walls of Dallas and Shanghai
that's where it's gonna stop for them
Unless like the Glads or Paris manage to upset

[willow tartan]

boston dallas vs seoul shanghai

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[tacit skiff]

playoff season gonna be real intense for these midtier teams

fighting for every map they can get

[willow tartan]

yeah

play ins gonna be crazy

well get to see the mid tier teams fight it

[tacit skiff]

BOSTON BEST MIDTIER TEAM LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

meanwhile

I really wanna see that Boston vs Shock game that hasn't happened yet

I have a feeling things could be different from last season

Colourhex being perma benched now

[feral zodiac]

Super genji when

[mortal cipher]

it happened once

[plush grail]

@willow tartanwhat team did la valiant play

[willow tartan]

We'll also see the other non playoffs teams fight cross region

[willow tartan]

dragons

[plush grail]

drag deez nuts over your face

[willow tartan]

Hangzhou vs Glads

or Chengdu vs WJ

and of course

[tacit skiff]

200 ping games

[willow tartan]

the epic battle of the washed teams Fusion vs Shock

[mortal cipher]

lol

i think shock is more washed

[willow tartan]

fusion did just lose to nyxl

[tacit skiff]

isn't Shock like #2 in west overall rn?

[mortal cipher]

is philly knocked out now

[willow tartan]

yep

[tacit skiff]

they aren't doing that bad

[mortal cipher]

and shock about lose to london

[tacit skiff]

Dallas just got better

[willow tartan]

Philly is #2 in East overall iirc

both stacked rosters but both omega washed

[mortal cipher]

yeah 3rd is seoul

[tacit skiff]

Season 4, the Season of Boston

just you wait

big upsets incoming

Boston 4-0 Shanghai

You'd have to see it to believe it

Summer Showdown Champions

[bold scarab]

Why was there a encore with ny and philly?

[tacit skiff]

No more B(omegalul)ston

it's time for the chads to return

Myunbong best support in the league no cap

[bold scarab]

Heck yeah

[bold scarab]

He was pretty good when vs the outlaws

[tacit skiff]

Myunbong has stayed true to the Uprising for so long now
it's time to finally take home the dub

[willow tartan]

because they both are western teams

[tacit skiff]

y'know theoretically
Boston could tie Shanghai in map score

[willow tartan]

yeah

dallas did that last stage

no biggie

[hot onyx]

NineK’s fault

[bold scarab]

Ik but why was there a encore when ny won 3-1

[willow tartan]

do you know what an encore is

[bold scarab]

Yeah its a repeated act

[willow tartan]

its a rebroadcast for ppl in NA to watch their NA franchises play

why wouldnt there be an encore

[tacit skiff]

all the justice have to do is win one map
and no more shock
I bet the glads will give em one

[misty salmon]

todays dragons x spark game was good

[bold scarab]

Was just confused is all

[tacit skiff]

WAIT IT STARTS IN AN HOUR AND A HALF????

[willow tartan]

ye

[tacit skiff]

I THOUGHT WE HAD LIKE 4 HOURS

WHY IS IT SO EARLY

[willow tartan]

no the encore starts first

for the nye vs philly match

and the la vs chengdu match

[tacit skiff]

terrible matches btw

poor Philly

smhsmh

if glads lose 3-0 what happens to the shock

[willow tartan]

dq'd

[mortal cipher]

lool

[tacit skiff]

Preds time
Boston 3-0 Atlanta
Dallas 3-0 Toronto
Washington 1-3 Gladiators

[north relic]

Same except Atlanta 3-2

[tacit skiff]

Atlanta = Worst Houston

I don't expect much

If the Uprising can handle Houston, then they can definitely handle Atlanta this time around

[north relic]

Houston just couldn’t adapt and got surprised

Atlanta have more prep

[tacit skiff]

Houston just played comp wars and didn't stick to a plan

[north relic]

Houston threw with Danteh torb

[gusty rampart]

So Dynasty and Shanghai going to Hawaii

[tacit skiff]

Atlanta should be easier for Boston this time

[north relic]

Chengdu Seoul should be a good match

[tacit skiff]

I wouldn't call it so soon

[gusty rampart]

Shanghai is a for sure

[tacit skiff]

4-0 curse is real

[gusty rampart]

They've beat NYXL every time and a team diff

[tacit skiff]

They aren't playing NYXL first

They're playing Seoul

[north relic]

Shanghai are playing nyxl

[gusty rampart]

[tacit skiff]

fake news

[north relic]

It’s Seoul Chengdu and dragons nyxl

[tacit skiff]

I want a recount

either way
I have faith in the nyxl

I don't have faith in seoul

[gusty rampart]

I'm a NYXL fan I have zero faith in NYXL

[willow tartan]

like a true fan

[north relic]

There is a good chance of justice Making it

[tacit skiff]

nyxl are prone to upsets

[gusty rampart]

Shanghai just built diff

[tacit skiff]

they just need 1 map

[willow tartan]

nyxl are prone to choking

[north relic]

Dragons don’t get upset

[tacit skiff]

Hangzhou would like a word

[north relic]

How is 3-1 an upset

[willow tartan]

dragons dont get upset except every time theyve been swept this year

[tacit skiff]

Not this match

dumdum

[willow tartan]

3-0 by chengdu at the start of the season

3-0 by hz in jj

[gusty rampart]

Chengdu dominated every one at the start

[willow tartan]

next up is 3-0 by nyxl in knockouts 😎

[tacit skiff]

Shangwashed

[gusty rampart]

Except for Mayhem

[north relic]

and Dallas

[willow tartan]

no if nyxl swept dragons during knockouts i quit ow

[gusty rampart]

[tacit skiff]

sounds like a blessing tbh

[north relic]

Dragons will give a map for your sake

[gusty rampart]

I'd be happy, my pickems wouldn't be

I still love Shanghai tho

They gonna win again

[north relic]

Dragons best looking team

[tacit skiff]

Shanghai smelly June Joust winners

Boston Chad Summer Showdown winners

[gusty rampart]

Ok Boston fan

[willow tartan]

boston more like

shut the fuck up

trash team

[north relic]

Boston has a chance since they won’t run into fuel

[tacit skiff]

WE CAN ALSO GO 4-0
YOU AINT SPECIAL

[gusty rampart]

Boston Downrising

[willow tartan]

when was the last time boston was inn a tournament

[gusty rampart]

Hopefully the 4-0 curse is true then

[tacit skiff]

jj

[willow tartan]

they werent in jj

[tacit skiff]

2021

[north relic]

No my fuel

[willow tartan]

r u drugged

they were in knockouts

not the tourney

3head

[tacit skiff]

I'm drugged on hopium

[north relic]

Boston last tourney has to be like season two or one

[gusty rampart]

Get Boston fans some emergency copium

[tacit skiff]

we gonna get the Boston season 4 grand finals winner

[gusty rampart]

[gusty rampart]

Hell no

[tacit skiff]

We heading back to Stage 3 2018

[gusty rampart]

Boston bad

Speak to me when you don't get utterly stomped by Paris please

So never

[tacit skiff]

We've beat Paris before-

[gusty rampart]

Paris stomped you last time

[mortal cipher]

so why is the shd and lav game bugged

[north relic]

https://www.owlstandings.com/Q4

[gusty rampart]

It's fixed

[tacit skiff]

Paris gonna get what's coming to them soon enough

[mortal cipher]

is it its still bugged

let me check

[gusty rampart]

Yeah Summer Showdown champion title

[tacit skiff]

Besides, I wouldn't call Paris 3-2 Uprising a stomp

more like
two mid tier teams figuring out the hierarchy

[gusty rampart]

They pretty much got dominated by Eternal

[mortal cipher]

well its still bugged for me for some reason maybe because mine wasnt bugged yesterdays idbk

[tacit skiff]

you wish

[gusty rampart]

Watch Rialto

[gusty rampart]

It's fixed for me

[tacit skiff]

I did
I've watched every game live

[mortal cipher]

ah it just became bugged for me

[willow tartan]

last time boston was in a stage playoffs was in stage 1 2019

[mortal cipher]

like in the last 5 minutes

i wasnted to see if apac was updated yet

[tacit skiff]

tbf, 2020 wasn't a good look for the Uprising

[gusty rampart]

Yeah Rialto wasn't a stomp

Totally not

[plush grail]

@gusty rampart i love u

[gusty rampart]

You don't say

[tacit skiff]

that thrower colourhex getting genji diffed by a benched main tank player

glad we have some competent DPS this season

[mortal cipher]

who was this against

[tacit skiff]

and the godly myunbong

[gusty rampart]

[tacit skiff]

I live for Myunbong antinades

[plush grail]

kaan >>>>>>>>>>>>> myunbong

[gusty rampart]

I live for Kaan dominating teams on Hanamura

[tacit skiff]

That Houston game was like a Christmas gift

ew drawnamura

wtf

how could you even speak that maps name

[gusty rampart]

The Glads game was a gift to Paris

The reverse sweep

[plush grail]

marry me dink

[mortal cipher]

lol'

[gusty rampart]

💍

Also I don't think Boston is going to win today tbh

[tacit skiff]

can't believe the shock have sucked every tournie qualifiers and yet are still #2 in na

[gusty rampart]

Reign just built diff

Shock chokes winnable games in KOs

[mortal cipher]

yeah

they are living on a prayer or miracle

[tacit skiff]

relax, Paris got both Vancouver and London in the Qualifiers, you guys got in for free

didn't even beat the big opponent

[plush grail]

they beat the glads my man???

[gusty rampart]

They make KOs if 1. Glads 3-0s 2. If Toronto loses (most likely)

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[plush grail]

and it's not like london is way worse

[tacit skiff]

congratulations you beat the glads
cough

[gusty rampart]

Shock Eternal was also hella close

[plush grail]

paris and london legit came from the same region

they were on the same level

and proved they were better

[tacit skiff]

You know what wasn't hella close
Boston and Houston

[plush grail]

bro stfu

[gusty rampart]

We know Boston fan

[willow tartan]

dont blame colourhex wtf

[plush grail]

remember when boston went like 0-20

[willow tartan]

boston coaches forced colourhex to play mei and echo btw

remember that?

[tacit skiff]

I'm blaming colourhex

[willow tartan]

yeah thats right

what do you expect putting a hitscan player on flex dps

[gusty rampart]

Boston fan blaming their players

[willow tartan]

???

[gusty rampart]

Wow

[tacit skiff]

I hate that man with an unjustified burning passion

[willow tartan]

dude

[gusty rampart]

Boston moment

[tacit skiff]

something about new zealanders

[plush grail]

bro thats just racism

[willow tartan]

xenophobia*

[mortal cipher]

a little biy

[tacit skiff]

racism against white people okay

[gusty rampart]

Nope

[mortal cipher]

wots this again

[willow tartan]

backing out of this convo asap

[gusty rampart]

Racism isn't good for anyone

[willow tartan]

see ya later idiots

shanghai 4-0 dallas

[mortal cipher]

heh

[tacit skiff]

in your dreams

[plush grail]

@willow tartan bye ily 👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

[tacit skiff]

na gonna put up a bigger fight than that

I don't have faith in every NA team, but I do have faith in NA to do well as a whole

even if the other teams can't meet expectations, Dallas has got our back

[gusty rampart]

I'm rooting for EU and APAC

[willow tartan]

rather that tbh

who wins in na vs apac?

eu

ezpz

[tacit skiff]

imagine rooting for eu

[plush grail]

i legit want eu to win

just so i can tell all those doubters to shut the fuck up

[tacit skiff]

go back to 2018

[plush grail]

rooting for boston

go back to 2018

lmao

when they were good

[tacit skiff]

salty eu

[mortal cipher]

me who likes london

[plush grail]

ur legit telling me to go back to 2018 but when i do it to u im salty???

[tacit skiff]

we all know the pecking order

eu < na < apac

[mortal cipher]

[tacit skiff]

there's no way around it

[gusty rampart]

Paris literally is dominating but ya I'll go back to when the Spitfire was good

[mortal cipher]

i wish i could go back to that

[tacit skiff]

dominating the bottom of the west bracket

[gusty rampart]

Wtf that's a cursed drawing of Hilda

[mortal cipher]

but the past is the past

[mortal cipher]

its popcorn hilda

[tacit skiff]

I had hopes for the London rookies

[gusty rampart]

They beat Glads and Shock Eternal was close

[mortal cipher]

they looked better but still its clearly not enough yet

[gusty rampart]

What zero wins does to a Boston mf

[tacit skiff]

We had 2*

[plush grail]

the type of person who will claim paris is bad cause they're still struggling against some teams but ignore how boston went winless the first stage

[tacit skiff]

They didn't go winless-

[gusty rampart]

Paris has a good roster overall

[tacit skiff]

They went 1-3

[mortal cipher]

i mean your better than last year

[tacit skiff]

Are you watching?

[gusty rampart]

Onigod and Naga are good DPS. Daan is a good tank. And Kaan is a literal force of nature

[plush grail]

my bad u managed to beat the worst team in owl in a map 5

[willow tartan]

shock beat them in a map 5 too

[mortal cipher]

ok vancouver is the wors

more like third worst

[tacit skiff]

I'd also like to mention Paris went 1-3

[willow tartan]

shock were 2019 and 2020 grand champions

boston is grand champions

[mortal cipher]

lol

[north relic]

Paris also had a close match with titans early on

[mortal cipher]

also LOndon is 2018 grand champs

[willow tartan]

valiant would beat vancouver

thats how bad vancouver is

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[plush grail]

players were 80% rookies and a scuffed setup because playing from home

[mortal cipher]

london will beat vancouver easy

[tacit skiff]

Like I don't understand this Paris was better than Boston in the mm, like both teams sucked ass

[plush grail]

they're warmed up now and taking top tier teams to map 5

[north relic]

Same with Boston they were bad first stage

[willow tartan]

isnt technically all their team rookies now

since they got vestola and dridro

[plush grail]

onigod

[willow tartan]

o

[plush grail]

is the only veteran

[tacit skiff]

All the mid tier teams got their running start in the jj

[plush grail]

but all of paris is rookies now

[willow tartan]

mayhem

[gusty rampart]

Onigod was on Fuel

[tacit skiff]

mayhem are a different story

[willow tartan]

ok so

[gusty rampart]

Mayhem is struggling with tanks

That's all

[willow tartan]

i got queued into a comp game

but i never loaded in

and it just cancelled

wtf

[tacit skiff]

I'm still so surprised Mayhem put up a better fight against Dallas than against Boston

[willow tartan]

dallas washed

[tacit skiff]

You wish

I wish

[gusty rampart]

They are

[tacit skiff]

Personally, I like Houston a lot more

[mortal cipher]

i mean they look shaky

[gusty rampart]

Shanghai full on killed them in the June Joust

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[gusty rampart]

And they're recovering

[mortal cipher]

i mean they made fearless go hog

[tacit skiff]

Fearless goated

dw

[mortal cipher]

ik

but when i saw fearless go on hog im like well its over