Very hard
#esports-discussion
mortal cipher
threepeat is looking slimmer and slimmer
woeful basin
Even if they do make it they’ll probably lose again
tropic herald
my obligatory shock bad to make flame and draw annoyed
north relic
Toronto is possible with glads and Dallas schedule
woeful basin
threepeat is looking slimmer and slimmer
At this point I’d say no three peat
mortal cipher
At this point I’d say no three peat
yeah same
willow tartan
nah Shanghai will win this year
north relic
nah Shanghai will win this year
Imagine you lose to Seoul in playoffs
mortal cipher
after June Joust i said nei to threepeat
dreamy cave
The rest of the league has cought up to shock more or less
mortal cipher
nah Shanghai will win this year
that or Dallas
willow tartan
Shanghai vs Paris
mortal cipher
oooh that be kul
north relic
Shanghai vs Paris
Paris couldn’t even beat shock though
woeful basin
nah Shanghai will win this year
I would say Shanghai or Dallas are the most likely to win unless a team like glads, Seoul, or someone else does an amazing playoffs run and does really well
mortal cipher
yeah
north relic
I would say Shanghai or Dallas are the most likely to win unless a team like gla...
Justice playoff run returns
willow tartan
Paris couldn’t even beat shock though
the Paris fuel
mortal cipher
lol
willow tartan
put fdgod on fuel bro
woeful basin
Justice playoff run returns
This time they make it since philly is in apac
What if philly wins finals
north relic
This time they make it since philly is in apac
And shock sucks
willow tartan
What if philly wins finals
they'll choke in grand finals
balmy wolf
they will drop 2 maps to valiant and fail to qualify
woeful basin
Depends on how they do tmw against dragons
willow tartan
To be honest. If any team loses to Valiant it's probably fusion
north relic
they'll choke in grand finals
Watch philly beat shanghai as revenge for last year
woeful basin
Tommorows game shows how likely philly is to do good in the jj
earnest leaf
my obligatory shock bad to make flame and draw annoyed
they basically need toronto/boston/justice to flop
north relic
Tommorows game shows how likely philly is to do good in the jj
Ss
willow tartan
Watch philly beat shanghai as revenge for last year
it's not Shanghai's fault they went 0-6
north relic
they basically need toronto/boston/justice to flop
I already accounted justice
dreamy cave
Dallas has like more than 7 stars on 1 team. They the Justice League
willow tartan
all their players (except pine) are top tier
earnest leaf
if boston get 3-0ed twice they go 2-2 with a -1 map score
shock fucked themselves by going 3-2 with london basically
mortal cipher
all their players (except pine) are top tier
because he hasnt played in 2 years
north relic
shock fucked themselves by going 3-2 with london basically
Yes
dreamy cave
Go ahead and remove the "not pine ty"
tropic herald
they basically need toronto/boston/justice to flop
justice are gonna flop
willow tartan
he's not gonna play this year either at this rate lolol
tropic herald
tomorrow
woeful basin
justice are gonna flop
What if justice repeat jj and only do good once they’ve been disqualified
willow tartan
Fearless, Hanbin, Sparkle, Doha, Fielder, Rapel, Jecse.
all cracked players
mortal cipher
yeah
willow tartan
rapel permabenched though 
north relic
Fielder is just too good
remote siren
So
earnest leaf
shock can make it, just very unlikely
woeful basin
I mean tbf when you have Jecseand fielder what can you do
mortal cipher
doubtful
north relic
shock can make it, just very unlikely
They need outlaws Dallas or reign to lose all three of their next matches
remote siren
@earnest leaf the spark can make it, just very unlikely
earnest leaf
yea I ignored that possibility because it won't happen
remote siren
Then again the spark actually have map wins in the playoffs
hot onyx
London can make it, just very unlikely
north relic
Then again the spark actually have map wins in the playoffs
Lost to nyxl btw
feral zodiac
Valiant can make it, just very unlikely
woeful basin
Who would you say makes it to ss other than Shanghai
remote siren
Nyxl are an inconsistent streaky team
north relic
But spark lost
woeful basin
Seoul, philly, or spark?
north relic
A win is a win
north relic
Seoul, philly, or spark?
Philly
feral zodiac
Shanghai got 3-0'd by chengdu
earnest leaf
dw guys shock need the time off to figure everything out 
remote siren
London is a joke thrash meme team
hot onyx
Philly
feral zodiac
London aren't trash atm
mortal cipher
they look v good
feral zodiac
Only trash teams rn are vancouver and valiant
mortal cipher
they arent going to go winless
dark hedge
London is a joke thrash meme team
they 2-3d shock
feral zodiac
Everyone else wants to and is improving
dark hedge
which to be fair doesnt seem as impressive now that shock got swept by houston lmao
hot onyx
Fly Titans to Hawaii and let them play Valiant in the ultimate toilet bowl
mortal cipher
yeah but they have improved
hot onyx
Before the grand finals
mortal cipher
Fly Titans to Hawaii and let them play Valiant in the ultimate toilet bowl
pls
toilet bowl tourney
dark hedge
Fly Titans to Hawaii and let them play Valiant in the ultimate toilet bowl
bro i would actually pay money to watch that
remote siren
Theyre not beating a serious team that wants to win
mortal cipher
bro i would actually pay money to watch that
same
remote siren
The valiant would win hard
feral zodiac
Idk
north relic
Theyre not beating a serious team that wants to win
Are you staying there are teams who don’t want to win
hot onyx
Ok who would win
mortal cipher
london could make a tight game tho
remote siren
Ik using hyperbole
woeful basin
We need valiant vs Titans to see who’s the true worst team
I would say valiant beat Titans
feral zodiac
Valiant vs vancouver would end in titans being decimated
remote siren
They might as well not be trying
hot onyx
Season 4 Titans or Season 3 Uprising
remote siren
Season 1 shanghai
feral zodiac
Titans players are legit only there for paychecks at this point
mortal cipher
Valiant vs vancouver would end in titans being decimated
because apac is diff
woeful basin
Season 4 Titans or Season 3 Uprising
S4 Titans by a mile
They lose by a mile I meant
feral zodiac
Because the valiant players actually care despite being bad
mortal cipher
even 1-42 shanghai is better
feral zodiac
Nothing can convince me that a team with roolf in the support line wants to improve
hot onyx
Jerry Chex [Redacted] Axxiom Swimmer Bong
woeful basin
Titans is the only tram I would say got worse other than valiant last offseason bc they lost shockwave
Shockwave was the only good player
north relic
Titans is the only tram I would say got worse other than valiant last offseason ...
Shock?
feral zodiac
Lost ksaa as well
hot onyx
sHockWave and KSAA
mortal cipher
Shockwave was the only good player
didnt they beat reign
hot onyx
didnt they beat reign
Idk about Reign but they beat Fuel once
feral zodiac
American tornado would probably do just as well as London if the entire team got signed
mortal cipher
Idk about Reign but they beat Fuel once
i remmber it was one of theose
feral zodiac
Which is still an improvement, but not a substantial one
north relic
American tornado would probably do just as well as London if the entire team got...
Make for a great end of season game instead of what we are expecting right now
feral zodiac
True
mortal cipher
most of them are from London hurricane
tribal canopy
Damn ans hanzo fucks
willow tartan
yeah bro can we get the Washington Hurricane
mortal cipher
who does he play for
remote siren
He had a nice big ass but he was ass at the game
willow tartan
???
feral zodiac
I think rawkus is the worst statterr player in owl
Muma season 3
mortal cipher
transfere out vancouver
feral zodiac
Literally the entire shanghai team in season 1
feral zodiac
Undead was asscheeks
north relic
ROSHAN STONKS
hot onyx
Fiveking deserves a redemption arc
north relic
Fealress has potential
Who is fearless, never heard of him
remote siren
Roshan deserves a redemption arc
remote siren
He was this guy in season 1
hot onyx
Raw mud
remote siren
Like rawkus was kinda cute ngl
hot onyx
Typo but it’s funny to keep raw mud in the chat
remote siren
And he has cake
feral zodiac
Came
hot onyx
Came
remote siren
That never happened
feral zodiac
He did the sex
remote siren
XD
hot onyx
came to the sight of his juice loaded rump
feral zodiac
Who are the teams vying for third best right now
north relic
Who are the teams vying for third best right now
Philly Seoul glads reign outlaws
north relic
I wouldn’t say spark
feral zodiac
I think philly are closest
hot onyx
sPaRK!?
remote siren
Ok not spark
feral zodiac
Also if you put in glads u must put in paris
north relic
Also if you put in glads u must put in paris
They lost to shock though
remote siren
Are the last two who has a chance
feral zodiac
But they beat glads
hot onyx
Also if you put in glads u must put in paris
Then if you put Paris you must put Shock
feral zodiac
Yes
north relic
But they beat glads
But glads beat shock
feral zodiac
But shock beat paris
north relic
But shock beat paris
And glads beat shock
feral zodiac
And paris beat glads
north relic
And paris beat glads
But shock beat Paris
hot onyx
And Paris beat Glads
remote siren
Stop!!!11!!
feral zodiac
But glads beat shock
stuck radish
vancouver beat all of them
north relic
vancouver beat all of them
At one point rhey did
hot onyx
vancouver beat all of them
Yeah in season 2
north relic
Runaway legacy still holds on
feral zodiac
Runaway
north relic
Or this titans?
But glads beat shock
feral zodiac
Every day
feral zodiac
The fuck is a lineup containing roolf and dalton going to do against runaway
north relic
The fuck is a lineup containing *roolf* and *dalton* going to do against runaway
Changsik also
remote siren
Do run away put open division titans on the list or not?
hot onyx
The fuck is a lineup containing *roolf* and *dalton* going to do against runaway
Curl up into a ball and die
feral zodiac
It gets worse and worse
north relic
Also has fire even done anything
hot onyx
Also has fire even done anything
Fed slightly less than LJG but that’s not hard
feral zodiac
Do yiu think run away will put this titans on the list?
Yes
remote siren
So this org trash
feral zodiac
Yes
remote siren
Reverse shanghai
north relic
London is the reverse shanghai
feral zodiac
Vancouver org is even worse than immortals
hot onyx
At least Titans didn’t release their roster 3 months away from the start of the season making it indefinitely harder to get picked up
And made the power move of releasing the roster 1 month into the season
How pissed do you think Fissure is
feral zodiac
Very
hot onyx
Refusing the offer to be paid off the remainder of his contract
feral zodiac
Hear me out
hot onyx
And wanting to stay as part of the team
feral zodiac
Fissure would contend fearless if he was still in owl
remote siren
No
hot onyx
And willing to learn English if the team was building in a western direction
Only to get scrapped from the roster anyway
remote siren
Ur stuck in season 1
hot onyx
Not get paid the remainder of his contract even though he got cut
hot onyx
And for Titans to go and pick up a different Korean main tank anyways
remote siren
Except in season one
feral zodiac
Who was second
hot onyx
Where mano was the third best mt
Mano Gesture and Awesomeguy
feral zodiac
What about super guys come on
feral zodiac
True
north relic
Of you average on every xhamp except rein
That’s like fearless with monkey
hot onyx
Hard to find a bad orisa unless you name yourself “Stand1”
remote siren
?????
feral zodiac
His orisa is eh
north relic
Super is more flexible than fearless imo
feral zodiac
But everything else is good
remote siren
@north relic ??????
north relic
Fearless can play 1/2 while super can play 3/4
feral zodiac
Super exists on shock solely for rein
north relic
Mts
remote siren
Youre trolling
feral zodiac
And mental
remote siren
If you think this
north relic
Super plays rein orisa ball
hot onyx
Super is more flexible than fearless imo
Please delete all form of contact with the outside world
feral zodiac
For team america sure
north relic
Fearless ball and orisa aren’t great
feral zodiac
Fearless ball is good
remote siren
He didnt play it much
remote siren
And okayed fine against shanghai who practiced ball alot
hot onyx
And Super is not a good ball
remote siren
His orisa is his only eh hero
feral zodiac
Fearless literally diffed super on supers best hero
remote siren
Fearless diffs everyone tbh
north relic
Fearless literally diffed super on supers best hero
3-0 knockouts?
That was a team diff
hot onyx
Fearless diffs everyone tbh
Didn’t diff Rio in the Summer Showdown
north relic
Didn’t diff Rio in the Summer Showdown
Lol
north relic
Didn’t diff Rio in the Summer Showdown
Wasn’t that an orisa meta though
worldly flax
is shock eliminated now?
north relic
is shock eliminated now?
Yes
remote siren
Prob
hot onyx
Wasn’t that an orisa meta though
Still doesn’t diff everyone
gusty rampart
Checkmate kinda fed on Rein today
remote siren
Orisa emtas dont count
north relic
Checkmate kinda fed on Rein today
Kinda is an understatement
worldly flax
oh thanks 
gusty rampart
Shhh
feral zodiac
Rio didn't diff
north relic
Orisa emtas dont count
Orisa was most of last year
feral zodiac
He got carried by eileen
gusty rampart
My Mayhem dreams are over
hot onyx
Checkmate kinda fed on Rein today
Please delete all form of contact with the internet thank you 😊
remote siren
@north relic did I stutter?
north relic
He got carried by eileen
Crong also silent carried on that meta
feral zodiac
Entirety of guangzhou got carried by eileen and crong
remote siren
Orisa metas dont count
north relic
<@452631000674205696> did I stutter?
So last year didn’t exist?
feral zodiac
And shu
gusty rampart
Please delete all form of contact with the internet thank you 😊
Did you even watch Liijiang
lunar ivy
who won Houston or shock?
barren quest
Checkmate trying to be Bumper
north relic
who won Houston or shock?
Houston 3-1
remote siren
Houston 3 1
lunar ivy
damn
remote siren
It wasnt close after half time
hot onyx
Did you even watch Liijiang
I watched him hit one earthshatter and got bored and turned it off so from what I saw he diffed Fearless hard 😎
feral zodiac
Piggy diff
lunar ivy
Shock are out of knockouts
what does that mean
gusty rampart
I watched him hit one earthshatter and got bored and turned it off so from what ...
Debatable
feral zodiac
what does that mean
No tournament for them
north relic
what does that mean
They have 0 chance of getting in the tourney
north relic
they cant play anymore this season?
There is still a tourney left
remote siren
They have a chance mathmatically
lunar ivy
how many knockouts does dallas have?
remote siren
I guess
north relic
Also they are likely to get in the playin tourney
remote siren
But that would take massive throws
north relic
Shock ^
lunar ivy
All except 1
how many knockouts are there in total?
remote siren
They all except one wins too
lunar ivy
3? 5?
remote siren
4
feral zodiac
4
lunar ivy
ah
remote siren
Then season
north relic
Then playoffs
remote siren
But the tourneys dont matter really that much except for point totals
north relic
Playoffs would be great this year if there isn’t some bullshit patch
hot onyx
Remember when Dallas got 3-0’d by Charge and Dragons and Seoul 3-1’d Dragons?
remote siren
Season 3 playoffs was overwatxhes juggernaut patch
hot onyx
The beauty and deceit of pre season tourneys
feral zodiac
Remember when ppl didn't take Houston seriously
feral zodiac
Remember when shock was good
hot onyx
Remember when shock was good
Nope
Shock were never good
Although they picked up Striker and the Uprising coach dude named “Crusty” so that might change
lunar ivy
do league tocken timers stack so say i watched 40 minutes one live stream then 20 another live stream would i still get tockens?
hot onyx
Aaaaaand they got rid of dHak actually throwing
feral zodiac
What
lunar ivy
london's flag
feral zodiac
No
lunar ivy
yes
feral zodiac
No
lunar ivy
yes
hot onyx
Bait
lunar ivy
yes
hot onyx
Don’t take it
lunar ivy
yes
feral zodiac
Take deez nuts
lunar ivy
bet
feral zodiac
Ok
hot onyx
Gladly < 3
feral zodiac
north relic
do league tocken timers stack so say i watched 40 minutes one live stream then 2...
Yes
hot onyx
oh god oh fuck I have a severe nut allergy and am struggling to breathe as a result
north relic
oh god oh fuck I have a severe nut allergy and am struggling to breathe as a res...
You aren’t able to watch checkmate mt I’m sorry
worldly flax
can't wait for custa's vod reviews on today's matches 
north relic
can't wait for custa's vod reviews on today's matches <:SombraGiggle:58568823368...
I only watched the ones where jimmy flanked twice on dorado and ofc casters to masters
lunar ivy
i like dallas fuel because their good
worldly flax
lmao jimmy
stuck radish
custa is gonna mald at twilight at the end of junkertown
north relic
can't wait for custa's vod reviews on today's matches <:SombraGiggle:58568823368...
Are they all worth it
lunar ivy
but id clap them in a 1v6 any day
hot onyx
You aren’t able to watch checkmate mt I’m sorry
Wait I conveniently found my epy pen
worldly flax
I only watched the ones where jimmy flanked twice on dorado and ofc casters to m...
the one where he's on widow and missed some really easy shots?
north relic
the one where he's on widow and missed some really easy shots? <:SombraGiggle:58...
Yea and custa was like just take the high ground
He was spectating jimmy the entire time
worldly flax
Are they all worth it
yeah, he explains what happens during the game nicely and from an ex owl player's perspective too
hot onyx
Jimmy Deez
lunar ivy
yes please
north relic
whos jimmy?
Chengdu player
lunar ivy
ah
worldly flax
^
north relic
everytime your pfp is out of focus in my eye i keep thinking its the wizard from...
Fireball
worldly flax
lol that's mercy 
also, I was reading shock's comment section after their loss and saw this "Hanzo is played like a hitscan in this state of the game so it only makes sense. Only thing that’s still projectile about him is his type of Bullet."
lunar ivy
lol that's mercy <:TracerHappy:594024932963385354>
im surprised how i didnt see anyone in the recent stream use mercy tbh
didnt expect to see bap or mei being used too
north relic
Hitscan isn’t used that much in this meta so mercy isn’t played
lunar ivy
Hitscan isn’t used that much in this meta so mercy isn’t played
ah
who would you say is good to rank up in comp? i dont play much comp but id like to try play it i know mcree and sig are good
north relic
#overwatch-serious ask there
worldly flax
shock's comment section though
north relic
shock's comment section though<:SombraGiggle:585688233682272259>
Any other people that come to mind when mentioning greatest hs
Maybe carpe
Diem was cracked out of his mind when it came to mechanics
earnest leaf
Ans hanzo was not too good
earnest leaf
Ye
stuck radish
idk why they put ans on hanzo instead of nero
and why did they run hanzo in the first place
willow drum
Who would you guys say won the Smurf for Danteh trade
north relic
Who would you guys say won the Smurf for Danteh trade
? This happened?
Oh yea
I remember now
willow drum
Yeah
In S1
I personally think Shock
cause they need a great Ball/Orisa/Winston player
and they alr had Rascal I believe
willow drum
Whereas s1-s3 outlaws had like Muma for Main Tank instead of Smurf
soooo
muma and smurf huge difference
yeah think shock won that 1
willow drum
Mt is more valuable than flex dps
especially when u alr have a flex dps and the mt ur getting is smurf
willow drum
ye agree
north relic
And how did outlaws win lol
Fdgod seemed to have left the country
north relic
Fd even got role star last year
So sad to see him getting replaced by a flex support
north relic
Yes I really want to see the reasoning behind that
tawdry hamlet
Maybe they thought the flanking coal would do more damage so the rest of the team could spam them down but Houston killed him too quickly allowing them to push shock who were down heals
earnest leaf
mixed roster yea
idle beacon
and they rolled sfs with ease or was it close?
frank granite
it was probably just a miscommunication, I think people are focusing on it way too much though, clearly outlaws were just superior this match and shock overall didn't play well
earnest leaf
first map shock was in control mostly
2nd map was a back and forth and shock threw at times and at the end
last two weren't close
idle beacon
hm ok
rugged schooner
last two werent close likely to shock being pissed at themselves throwing
idle beacon
damn i lile that laidback jazz-piano tune
why aren't they releasing soundtracks? or are they using royalfree songs from elsewhere?
tropic herald
they have a video somewhere with all the music
north relic
The Lofi one?
idle beacon
would be ace if you could hand it over, once you found it
the song has an upright bass and a piano .. sounds jazzy
with a hiphop-like beat
north relic
the song has an upright bass and a piano .. sounds jazzy
Check Beniet beat first
That might be it
north relic
check what exactly?
Just search beniet beat
north relic
Is that it?
north relic
Ok
idle beacon
thanks muchos
idle beacon
damn i love it
tropic herald
this feels cursed
idle beacon
cursed?
tropic herald
idk just i remember before the season feeling certain ways about certain teams and seeing where they are now its just so weird
tropic herald
i had houston and florida flipped
north relic
i had houston and florida flipped
A lot of people were low on them
tropic herald
i was low on houston
earnest leaf
houston pre-season banked on piggy/jjanggu looking good
tropic herald
but between them and paris i thought both could be good, just wasnt super convinced
earnest leaf
but luckily they do look good
north relic
i was low on houston
Oh you mean the standings?
tropic herald
just surprising to see teams like florida and justice flop
idle beacon
florida floppin?
tropic herald
i had toronto high but they were the team i thought was most likely to underperform]
north relic
i had toronto high but they were the team i thought was most likely to underperf...
Toronto top 5 na though?
tropic herald
yea
north relic
Who were the other 4
tropic herald
it was prob glads shock mayhem justice
north relic
Mm surprised you didn’t have Dallas higher
tropic herald
i wasnt super high on dallas tbh, they screamed, superstar team that wont be that good
north relic
i wasnt super high on dallas tbh, they screamed, superstar team that wont be tha...
That’s what justice screamed to me
north relic
I underestimated dallas hard
Everyone did
tropic herald
rush, yong, aid goated
north relic
Who knew they would be top na
earnest leaf
some people definitely were high on dallas
tropic herald
would love to see a team build up under aid
north relic
some people definitely were high on dallas
Above shock high ?
earnest leaf
yes
north relic
Some people are just crazy for doing that
north relic
i was very skeptical of the doha sparkle fdps
Really ?
quaint aurora
I feel like for 5 years of pro ow the pro scene is still really underwhelming
earnest leaf
Sparkle looked good on genji last year and that was about it
quaint aurora
(Imo)
rain widget
Back
north relic
Sparkle looked good on genji last year and that was about it
Doom was good when he bought it out
rain widget
How it's going
north relic
Did sparkle or Doha play echo at all last year
tropic herald
before this season, sparkle was basically genji doom two trick, doha was a mei sombra two trick and i didnt think that boded well for their flexability
north relic
before this season, sparkle was basically genji doom two trick, doha was a mei s...
Yea but like other proj dps were just not viable last season
Other than echo
tropic herald
echo, tracer, were played lots
north relic
Tracer isn’t proj
tropic herald
tracer is supposed to be in their pool as fdps
tropic herald
yes but neither were particularly impressive imo
the only echo players i remember were like fleta and rascal tbh
north relic
Is reaper something hs play or fd
north relic
the only echo players i remember were like fleta and rascal tbh
Maybe Danteh for me
tropic herald
well, the hero is so niche it doesnt matter who plays it
normally itd be a flex pick
but hs can play it
idle beacon
btw lsd, how come you know what song that is? do you have the album?
north relic
btw lsd, how come you know what song that is? do you have the album?
I have searched it up before due to my own interest
idle beacon
ok
tropic herald
junk pharah torb
north relic
Other than maybe the lofi video
north relic
junk pharah torb
Those aren’t real characters
tropic herald
torb is pretty real
idle beacon
trying to find a clean / lossless version. beatport doesn't have any song by music beyond 😦
idle beacon
junk not real? :p
tropic herald
junk isnt that good in owl
north relic
Other than control center
north relic
Just echo is better
idle beacon
who was strong as pharah back in s1-s2 ? fleta?
tropic herald
pharah is an alright hero but also not that good in owl
idle beacon
or profit
forest raven
I was right to have low expectations 
idle beacon
mei is a useful hero yea. but how is torb real and useful?
tropic herald
draw ur team isnt gonna 3peat
forest raven
Fuck no
north relic
draw ur team isnt gonna 3peat
Whenever I see your pfp I feel like it’s a unicorn spewing out fire
tropic herald
torb is a good anti dive tank zoning
forest raven
Does Viol2t have some blackmail on crusty or some shit
north relic
Does Viol2t have some blackmail on crusty or some shit
His contract must say he has to play every match
forest raven
Also I heard they ran rein rush on junker but not kings?
forest raven
Man what's crusty doing
tropic herald
but shock overall were just boomed last few maps
forest raven
The boys 
north relic
The crusty crack pipe has taken over
tropic herald
i wish i could be super so i could lose one owl game and gain 1000 dollars over a few hours
north relic
More time for variety streams too because they're not even making knock-outs <:O...
What’s he gonna play
forest raven
Yes
north relic
i wish i could be super so i could lose one owl game and gain 1000 dollars over ...
Super the millionaire
forest raven
Did mayhem lose
north relic
Checkmate rein diff
forest raven
tropic herald
mayhem on orisa is like pretty clean
forest raven
Chadmate on the field
forest raven
Unhinged
north relic
Inspirational
forest raven
Freakish
tropic herald
did you see any checkmate rein moments draw
forest raven
Clip doesn't work I'm on mobile ecks dee
tropic herald
its not clip its timestamp
forest raven
Still doesn't work
earnest leaf
also shock got 100% boomed after junkertown
They went from fighting tooth and nail to flopping like fish
tropic herald
4:02:40
forest raven
Was I right about main support viol2t being a problem
stuck radish
viol2t's ms isnt great but there were bigger problems
tropic herald
i think shock are feeling pains as they realize they dont have macro and mechanics well above other teams
still
earnest leaf
Shock were doing mostly well first two maps
then last fight junkertown it fell apart
after that they looked like a shitter mid tier team
tropic herald
because they are 🙌
forest raven
I'm happy that by all accounts super smurf and choi are still playing well
earnest leaf
but
mag is supposed to be the best mt in the league
and fury is the best OT
and decay is the best dps!
earnest leaf
mag monkey otp
tropic herald
uh
earnest leaf
fury good but not like he used to be
I unironically think mag is gonna get rein diffed by checkmate
tropic herald
i think mag has a good rein and ball but players around him play like hes on monkey when hes off monkey
bqb is gonna diff decay
idle beacon
eh, i was asking how torb is a real hero 😛
earnest leaf
cuz it's a 50/50
tropic herald
like how do u order dallas, atlanta, houston, glads, shock, paris
earnest leaf
this maybe
idk
mid tier is basically a tie below reign
I could see putting reign over shock though too
tropic herald
Like paris to Dallas feels so changeable
earnest leaf
Depends on how they shape up
tropic herald
I favor Atlanta if Orisa is meta against Dallas
earnest leaf
i predded 3-1 for reign over dallas
tropic herald
Even In a rush mirror I could see either
earnest leaf
I think dallas is gonna struggle
tropic herald
Dallas struggles so hard against Orisa
idle beacon
reign that good all of a sudden?
tropic herald
The amount of times they nearly got full held by Florida was concerning
earnest leaf
Meta is shaping out to be a double shield poke meta
tropic herald
Reign have been good imo for a while
earnest leaf
reign is good at that type of meta
tropic herald
And rush and poke are what reign likes
As long as the main tank isn’t monkey reign look good
tropic herald
this maybe
The things with this is I think Atlanta better than Houston but also Houston better than Shock
tropic herald
That’s what I think
forest raven
Chois napping in supers bed 
forest raven
The boys 
tacit skiff
I can't believe the Mayhem put up a better fight against Dallas than the Uprising
I for sure thought that it was at least going to be a close match.
But the Uprising surprised me, I'm glad to be corrected by them that I shouldn't just take them lightly anymore.
forest raven
Chadmate
gusty rampart
lolol
forest raven
Bro they nearly beat Dallas with Checkmate on the auto pin machine
tacit skiff
The Shock three-peat is seemingly near impossible for me to believe, especially after the London and Houston games. Too many mid-season player drops and pickups, as well as communication difficulties during matches, leads me to believe that the Shock will end up as a bottom of the top tier team this season. Not a team just to slouch over or forget about, but definitely not the potential I'm sure many Shock fans were looking for. Perhaps Ans wasn't the answer they were looking for.
tacit skiff
Read again.
earnest leaf
ah I see
I do think they can go back to their normal state, we've seen flashes of it, but they just can't get their roster straight for some reason
They endlessly experiment with support lineups and it's not helping
slow lodge
Major communication issues
mortal abyss
slow lodge
damn
balmy wolf
where can i find contenders schedule
forest raven
balmy wolf
https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/contenders/schedule <@456226577798135808>
but its outdated 😩 showing march schedule
forest raven
Scroll down
balmy wolf
im trying but i dont understand
if they want more viewers on contenders make schedule readable 😩
i want to watch europe. is it only 5 matches in july?
forest raven
I don't watch contenders
willow tartan
I'm pred Shanghai 3-1
balmy wolf
it also say first match is qurterfinals
HOW! is first match qurterfinals
i dont understand this schedule 😭😭 missed out on last month bc of it
mortal abyss
Idk… I think 3-1 shanghai
balmy wolf
where can i find contenders schedule
lf help
slow lodge
why is wait time 18 min???
timber plover
heh
real gyro
i mean dragons lose 3-0 to their 2nd opponent every tourny
timber plover
Do the dynasty skins go well with gold guns?
hot onyx
They may have looked shaky against the Charge but they were just trying out new compositions and using a new player rotation, they’ll have figured it out for the important match and they will look as good as they did during season 3 if they keep Astro in full time
timber plover
I got my gold gun for mei and was wondering which league skin I should get for her
hot onyx
Shit I gotta change my name for the troll to make sense again
willow tartan
||I have my sad philly fan pfp on standby||
Good. You are preparing your tears I presume?
slow lodge
lol
still winnable for philly
but it'll be tough
i also just found this pfp and don't wanna change it
:p
willow tartan
I'm from the future and I can confirm Shanghai wins this match 3-1. My pickems say so.
slow lodge
I'm from the future and I can confirm Shanghai wins this match 3-1. My pickems s...
we'll see
it'll be a really good match tho
hot onyx
Normally I agree but Carpe and Rascal looked sorta shaky
So hopefully NineK sorts them out
Ok everybody change your pickems
willow tartan
man I love AVRL
hot onyx
The Fusion have never lost a match casted by AVRL
slow lodge
man I love AVRL
same
willow tartan
You think Seoul will drop the ball against Guangzhou?
willow tartan
But Seoul is the second best second best team in eastern conference
slow lodge
but they always randomly shit themselves
hot onyx
Seoul are in their own tier
Sometimes better than Dragons
Sometimes worse than NYXL
Aaaand they’re playing Rio idc how much Seoul shit the bed they don’t lose to a team with Rio on mt
sullen berry
Rio malding having not earned a single match mvp in the past 3 years
balmy wolf
kariv window????
hot onyx
Here’s an idea
Sign an actual hs if the team is serious about wanting to win instead of keeping a hs so bad that he gets benched for Eileen
Well
As serious about winning as you can possibly be after releasing Happy and Shu
slow lodge
seoul tingz
hot onyx
Seoul sucks
Seoul good
Seoul sucks
Seoul sucks some more
Seoul beats Fusion
Seoul good
Seoul go to 5 maps against the Valiant
Seoul sucks
Being a fan of Seoul must be what schizophrenia feels like
sullen berry
Being a fan of Seoul must be what schizophrenia feels like
ah yes, this is the kind of analysis I like to see when valiant or charge look improved
willow tartan
Pls fits replay
hot onyx
Only for fucking Gandalf himself to permanently recast the spell
slow lodge
Fits vacshot??
Yeah, idk how Eilieen got spotted
willow tartan
Come on I need that replay right now
Widow shot from half the map on an invis sombra
Looked like a prefire too
hot onyx
Charge stopped drinking Herbalife and started consuming nutrition that doesn’t turn your stomach inside out and now they’re already performing better
slow lodge
Yeah...
forest raven
London's gonna poo all over Titans
hot onyx
x10 total ult elims
Total can mean for any time
Overall
Tick that box and have FRD dva and Teru echo every match and try for the remech kill as if their lives depended on it
willow tartan
2x titans team wipe? They're gonna get a lot more than that
hot onyx
They probably meant Titans getting a team kill twice not getting team killed
Another beauty to match “FIRE ROOLF”
willow tartan
isn't that basically literally just
"win two team fights"
or is a team wipe like killing everyone within 15 seconds
hot onyx
When the “team kill” gong sounds
willow tartan
Wait I just realized they removed the map 5 thing lol
That was like the original prerequisites
little tusk
I hope shockwave plays today
severe tusk
who's gonna tell him?
obviously it's because the casters are in NZ where they don't need to distance
willow drum
cr0ng nice with bombs
plush grail
@sullen berrywe are polar opposites
charge was predicted to be decent
paris was predded to be shit
we switches places
balmy wolf
charge was predicted to be bad
sullen berry
hey look, I didn't dream them to be this low
but on the bright side, I've fucked over fantasy draft for two players selling my stonks this season
balmy wolf
tf is charge doing
mortal abyss
ggs
forest raven
Both these teams suck
mortal abyss
guangzhou charge moment
little tusk
oh wow reverse sweep
willow tartan
Never doubted
sullen berry
I barely sold people on cr0ng kariv and eileen while I grab hanbin shy and creative
they lapped it up the fantasy snake draft 🐍
hollow bough
never doubted the dynasty
sullen berry
I still would after that performance
hollow bough
just made me sweat just a little bit
forest raven
I now have enough tokens to buy the summer showdown skin no need to ruin my sleep schedule for the NA streams anymore 
hollow bough
nice lmfao
idle gorge
Why did twighlight throw end of junkertown?
hollow bough
talking abt earlier today?
idle gorge
Ye against outlaws
hot onyx
Someone in YouTube chat said “Seoul best team” and then later said Dragons winning 3-0 was “just luck”
idle gorge
Lmao
hot onyx
It gets better
plush grail
based yt chat
hot onyx
“Who won last year?”
hollow bough
Ye against outlaws
There was most likely a call to tp 3 people. They were running double shield rein/sigma so they were probably gonna send sigma/moira/mei in the back to pinch in the middle while rein/lucio/sym stayed in front. Was supposed to be a great play to pinch out danteh's mei, but outlaws broke the teleporter nearly instantly so twilight was the only one that made it through
feral zodiac
In short: they fucked up
hot onyx
As though Seoul didn’t get their best possible meta and Dragons didn’t have to force StandDumb on hog and ball
feral zodiac
As though seoul will ever do anything
hot onyx
Truuuue
forest raven
Dragons boutta 3-0 another team people think are good
hot onyx
Fusion has never lost a match casted by AVRL
feral zodiac
Then go to 5 maps with valiant
hot onyx
The NZ good luck charm pays off
main nexus
why are there so many koreans in owl
forest raven
Fusion isn't that bad
mortal abyss
why is fusion bad now??
they arent shanghai are just god tier
forest raven
Dragons are just insane
main nexus
ik
main nexus
like nyxl
mortal abyss
yup
main nexus
even london spitfire
hollow bough
why are there so many koreans in owl
ow is most popular in korea
hot onyx
I mean
main nexus
well
feral zodiac
why are there so many koreans in owl
Because korean players put more time into the game than other players
mortal abyss
even london spitfire
because korea is by far the best reigon at overwatch so if you want to win you get koreans :), but there are some roles where you can argue the west may exceed on
hot onyx
And only looked shaky during the start of hero pools
upper niche
Well, at least I'm getting 2 points from that one.
I got SHD 3 d PHI 2 for the next one
hollow bough
i have shd 3-1
forest raven
Fusion gonna get boomed on 2cp
feral zodiac
[Sarcastic]
forest raven
Lip reminds me of Danteh
plush grail
ljg u good???
noble nexus
lmfao
hollow bough
lol
forest raven
Man's aggro in and out of the game
plush grail
poko would fucking eat them
noble nexus
that was such a confusing thing to see
mortal abyss
poko and alarm are both jacked
plush grail
what team would be the strongest irl
forest raven
Fusion might be up there
hot onyx
Houston
willow drum
what team would be the strongest irl
Glads
hot onyx
Piggy sits on everyone and wins
willow drum
Just cause of the fact thay have Space
plush grail
i feel like someone like kaan could be a menace irl
hollow bough
Just cause of the fact thay have Space
true
forest raven
Casores is built
plush grail
not counting coaches
coaches only get to prep them for the fight
not join the fight
willow drum
I mean not counting coaches shock def up there
mortal abyss
willow drum
OML
hollow bough
lol
willow drum
Just stack up them bodies
plush grail
mickie sadge
willow tartan
goddamm bro