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willow tartan
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Guangzhou using ults makes me nervous

mortal abyss
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ana is just so much better for fusion

balmy wolf
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what a tragedy

bronze turtle
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damn

balmy wolf
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im sorry for kenobi

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his team doesnt want to win

normal kiln
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my first time actually watching OWL live

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and its 5am for me

balmy wolf
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ooof

normal kiln
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it helps, cause I got home at 3am and have to be somewhere at 7

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so I didnt want to sleep

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best option --> OWL

sullen berry
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you just end up seeing the same match again with that easy to forget encore sticker

normal kiln
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oh, I just watch the full stream and skip the breaks

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so its basically the same, without the hype cause I already know the outcomes

sullen berry
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anyways it's good you're here!

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next week it's a Summer Showdown homestand

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helps get your body ready being up at this hour

normal kiln
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yeah, lol

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I work night shifts, but I'm also at home rn, and my family wakes up at 9-10am

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not a good combination

balmy wolf
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nice emp

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lol

mortal abyss
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eqo is playing so well

willow tartan
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that sleep was huge

mortal abyss
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ALARM

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I LOVE YOU SO MUCH

willow tartan
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is hotbas dva not as good?

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I prefer over zarya especially for 2nd

mortal abyss
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nah he just prefers xarya on gib i guess

willow tartan
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though they are running cree

mortal abyss
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fusion always play double bubble

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ok well hes on dva now

willow tartan
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ya

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2nd point zarya is pain

mortal abyss
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alarm is so fucking hot oh my god

normal kiln
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I dont really agree with the sombra pick

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like the commentators were saying, nothing really to combo with

mortal abyss
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eileen is just bad at sombra

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hes hacked like 2 people

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one of which was a rllying brig

normal kiln
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theres a lot of denial possibility, but emp farming is so bad

mortal abyss
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eqo is carrying

normal kiln
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he emp'd what?

mortal abyss
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both tanks

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it wasnt a terrible ult

normal kiln
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its so funny seeing the differences in primals

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rio seems so passive compared to so many others

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good emp

willow tartan
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Eileen sombra scares me

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What's his ult charge time man

normal kiln
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good or bad scare?

willow tartan
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L

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rip eqo

normal kiln
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lol

mortal abyss
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eqo alarm and mano are carrying

normal kiln
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alarm sleep tho

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mmmmm

mortal abyss
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yep

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"AlArM nOt ToP 3 fLeX sUpPoRt BtW"

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my heart says hes top 1

willow tartan
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alarm > viol2t

mortal abyss
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true

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viol2t hasnt been that impressive this season

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twilight being in is so much better for shock

willow tartan
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Ana gameplay is just hot

normal kiln
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hot granny

willow tartan
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top 3 anas izayaki, twilight and alarm 😎

mortal abyss
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yup

normal kiln
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wait, Ow2 play tester?

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is that public or special access?

mortal abyss
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nah its a joke

normal kiln
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oh

mortal abyss
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haha

normal kiln
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you got me with that one

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how'd you set it up?

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also, 19 days lol

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shoulda known

mortal abyss
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haha

willow tartan
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people in the cp server had that up for months

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"playing Cyberpunk 2077 for 8 months"

balmy wolf
mortal abyss
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i mean

balmy wolf
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tf ur talking bout

willow tartan
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alarm is cracked and jacked

mortal abyss
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i met someone in this channel claiming he was overrated and inconsistent OMEGALUL

balmy wolf
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bruh

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some trolls

willow tartan
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where's shockwave btw

mortal abyss
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in qurantinr

hot onyx
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Levy was right

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It’s starting

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Tobi is eating Astro

mortal abyss
willow tartan
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double shield but without two shields

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4head

normal kiln
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kariv nano farm is insane

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i need to look at him in the replay viewer sometime

mortal abyss
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tbh against a spam compm like this rio is just taking poke so he can give kariv nano

normal kiln
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and he immediately gets nano'd

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nano winston >

mortal abyss
willow tartan
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fusion stalling

normal kiln
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I feel like this kinda pause is so distracting to players

willow tartan
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lmao kariv looked so confused

mortal abyss
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fusion pause a lot

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usually not their fault

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i remember people complaining about it

normal kiln
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hmmm

mortal abyss
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but last time against hunters it was an automatic pause

normal kiln
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"not their fault"?

mortal abyss
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and against chengdu the first time it was because of alarms dry eye condition#

mortal abyss
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say

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if someone on fusion dced

willow tartan
mortal abyss
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the game would pause automatically

normal kiln
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oh

mortal abyss
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they cant control it

normal kiln
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oh

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its back

willow tartan
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nanoblade time plis

normal kiln
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KARIV DIFF

willow tartan
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lackluster blade sadge

normal kiln
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yeah, lol

willow tartan
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I wanted a frag montage

normal kiln
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everyone hid so fast

willow tartan
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big boop

mortal abyss
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mandu???????

normal kiln
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mandu lul

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poor choisehwan

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didnt deserve such

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disregard

sullen berry
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how much you wanna bet I can make this go to 40%

normal kiln
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where is this?

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i can help

sullen berry
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it's on the OWL page

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πŸ˜‚ beautiful

normal kiln
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nice

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damn, i gotta get going

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guess ill have to check results later

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rip

glacial wadi
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Another 2cp another draw

willow tartan
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rascal staggered himself hard

glacial wadi
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I dont think it was winnable regardless tbh, the ult difference was huge after their initial push failed

mint vault
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I need help

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could someone help me

balmy wolf
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help with what?

mint vault
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u know the gray and white leauge skins

balmy wolf
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yeah?

mint vault
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I watched 4 hrs of leauge but i didnt get them

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can all countries get the skin or do u live in a countrie where i cant get the skin

balmy wolf
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the reward system is bugged sometimes

mint vault
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can i find a list on what countries that can get the skin

mint vault
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sweden

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do i need to use vpn

balmy wolf
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sweden should be fine

mint vault
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My friend in norway got it

hollow bough
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sometimes its buggy

mint vault
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is it just regular league matches that i need to watch to get the skin

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or is it certain

hollow bough
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what skin is it even now?

mint vault
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dva i thin

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thx for the help i contact the support

mortal abyss
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rascal

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what r u doing

mint vault
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wha

mortal abyss
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lol

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rio got melted so fast

hollow bough
balmy wolf
mint vault
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yes

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but no skin

balmy wolf
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hmmm okay i would just advise you to watch a bit more, the reward system is kinda shit, doesnt work perfectly

hollow bough
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what was last season's skin again

mint vault
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mercy

hollow bough
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wtf lol

balmy wolf
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ive got the skins later eventually even when i watched enough

hollow bough
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i caught like 90% of the games last season and didnt get the mercy skin

balmy wolf
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i got it lol

hollow bough
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lmao

balmy wolf
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idk why it doesnt work for everone

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kinda unfair

mortal abyss
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alarm or eqo potm

balmy wolf
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esp cause i dont even want them

hollow bough
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i dont either tbh but

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want to at least collect it

balmy wolf
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yeah

hollow bough
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im super excited for this next match

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Profit vs Lip

balmy wolf
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anyways shit match over

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now the good match starts

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guy won in life

mortal abyss
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loll

willow tartan
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dragons sweep incoming

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now whether it's a winning or losing sweep... no idea

young fractalBOT
sullen berry
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hey no lie

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I'm watching this and forgot that button still exists

willow tartan
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Shanghai just better pog

ivory mason
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crushing

sullen berry
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LImP emp

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still some of the best fireworks this side of dorado

little tusk
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aw man shockwave didn't play?

sullen berry
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don't tell the encore watchers ||no || except on ||nah||

little tusk
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what heroes are banned this rotation?

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or none?

balmy wolf
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none

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sadge didnt predict 3-0

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i thought it would be closer

willow tartan
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nnnoot even close

vagrant cargo
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peofit doing air vs good teams as usual

willow tartan
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Winston action time

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no?

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goddamn it

hollow bough
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As much as I love seoul shd is a better team

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breaks my heart πŸ’”

vagrant cargo
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crazy Blizzard XDDD

balmy wolf
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as much as i love love love is a better love

mortal abyss
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TOYOU DIED WITH ULT?????????

willow tartan
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Hack

tropic herald
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Team diff

willow tartan
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Shanghai 3-1 stage again after philly sweeps them tomorrow

mortal abyss
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wow

balmy wolf
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how

willow tartan
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skill difference

tropic herald
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Seoul trying to get speed ran

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With no point

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Points

forest raven
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Shanghai suprCHAD

hollow bough
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my poor team )::

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getting rolled and stomped

balmy wolf
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deserved

hollow bough
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?

balmy wolf
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?

hollow bough
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gg

balmy wolf
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f

forest raven
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Dominated

hollow bough
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unfortunately Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

weak bolt
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Pretty sure Lip hit 1 player with 3 EMP's in that attack round

upper niche
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That was a bit of a stomping.

hollow bough
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i wanted to see a little more resistance but shd outplays them way too hard

upper niche
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how long did that match take? :/

hollow bough
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not even 10 min

upper niche
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40 minutes for the series was it?

hollow bough
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including breaks yeah

weak bolt
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Fate/Fleta look so in sync its crazy when they play Ball/Tracer

hollow bough
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so more like 30 min

upper niche
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Yeah, they give them what, a 15 minute break after map 2?

worldly flax
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damn that 3-0 JunkratShock

rare chasm
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And thus
The inconsistency continues

upper niche
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8 minute break.

rare chasm
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They prob boutta be knocked out in the knockouts again

upper niche
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I hope my ranked teammates look at this Lip Sombra play and stop telling me to get off Sombra :DDDD

hollow bough
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I really hope not but even then shd will just beat seoul in semis if they made it in

weak bolt
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2nd spot is likely a toss up between Philly/Seoul. Will depend on who can avoid SHD in the playoffs for SS

hollow bough
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well, time for me to go to sleep

upper niche
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Oh dear, I predicted Seoul to win 3-2. o_O

hollow bough
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I predicted shd to win even if i am a seoul fan

upper niche
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I also went PAR d SFS 3-2 and WAS d ATL 3-2. My picks are whaaaack this round

weak bolt
idle beacon
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damn, totally forgot that it's OWL weekend

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prediction for the following 3 matches?

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how close was paris vs sfs ?

forest raven
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3-1

idle beacon
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i know the score, i mean if it was an easy match for sfs or if it was a close one

forest raven
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Nepal was a close 2-1

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Gib Shock held on 3rd for like 3 and a half minutes then kinda rolled on their attack

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Hanamura was a really close 4-3 where Kaan went fucking bonkers

idle beacon
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kaanan?

forest raven
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Hollywood was a not close 4-3, Shock capped with the 3rd fastest time ever, and on their attack won p much instantly

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Kaan

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Paris' flex supp

idle beacon
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damn. so sfs didn't really look much stronger. so to say?

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ye the dude they call kaanan πŸ˜„

forest raven
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I mean they literally capped Hollywood with the 3rd fastest time ever

idle beacon
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or sometihng. because his ana is so dope

forest raven
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And the only reason Paris capped at all was because Onigod got like a 4k

idle beacon
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but your conclusion? the young paris team having potential?

forest raven
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Kaan is unhinged

idle beacon
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unhinged?

forest raven
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Very fucking good at the video game

idle beacon
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never heard that, yet πŸ˜„

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so a german being very fucking good at ow

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phily vs charge .. i thought charge are strong. philly just overran them?

forest raven
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Charge is the 2nd worst team in APAC my guy

upper niche
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APAC seems to change week to week πŸ˜„

north relic
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that might go to nyxl

idle beacon
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they won over nyxl 3-2

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but hunters spanked them 3-0

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hm

forest raven
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In a match that was almost worthy of the toilet bowl mantle

idle beacon
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lol

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whats the worst team in apac?

north relic
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valiant

idle beacon
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so apac is asian and westcoast. am i getting it right this time?

north relic
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i mean most owl teams are asian

idle beacon
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whats the other side called?

forest raven
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APAC and NA

idle beacon
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and them euros?

forest raven
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They play in NA

idle beacon
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NA for north atlantic?

forest raven
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North America

idle beacon
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whatever.. i'll stick to them acronyms

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outlaws vs sfs .. i dont know how good outlaws are atm. any prediction?

upper niche
forest raven
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As a Shock fan I am setting my expectations low

north relic
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we havent seen outlaws yet so i dont know what to expect

remote siren
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Wait

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Die soeul just get aced by shanghai?

forest raven
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Nah Seoul got one point

upper niche
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I don't know if was aced, but it was something.

forest raven
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Capped A on anubis

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Almost an ace

remote siren
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Wow

forest raven
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Shanghai 2021 champions

remote siren
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The same seoul that exposed spark?

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Got nesr aced?

forest raven
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Shanghai extremely good at the video game

idle beacon
remote siren
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Sganghai or d fuel new shock

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We need to start rooting against them out of spite for being too good

idle beacon
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nah .. SHD all the wya

forest raven
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Nearly everyone has been rooting against Shock since stage 2 of 2019 lmao

idle beacon
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root against dallas fools, yes

remote siren
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Like how everyone's second favorite team is who ever faced the shock

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I think season 2 was the worst year of overemwatch league

forest raven
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Bro what

remote siren
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Season 1 was exciting and funny

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Season 4 is currently looking amazing

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Season 3 was exciting

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Season 2 was goats or rush

idle beacon
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i never rooted for sfs

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only liked seeing sin's zarya

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always rooted for SHD, since s1

tribal canopy
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mainly rooting for smurf super tbh

idle beacon
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die

forest raven
idle beacon
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fissure completly retired, ye?

forest raven
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Smurf haters are not accepted here

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Yeah Sadge

idle beacon
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smuf hater?

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nah, only super

forest raven
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That is acceptable

idle beacon
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who smurf?

forest raven
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Wdym who smurf

remote siren
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Super is annoying tbh

forest raven
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Super's great

idle beacon
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just checked. haven't seen him before shock. so yea, didnt know who he is

forest raven
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What

remote siren
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Hiis voice hurts my ears

forest raven
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Smurf's been on the team since the beginning of season 2

idle beacon
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his voice hurts your eyes? wat

remote siren
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?

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Look at you stupid

idle beacon
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[14:47] Dark:tm:: Hiis voice hurts my eyes

forest raven
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Super's great, but what's even greater is the people that get genuinely annoyed by his on camera personality pepeLaugh

remote siren
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Ears

idle beacon
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ye i dont like his prag / bigmouth additude. this lil man .. acting like he's arni

remote siren
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Ive heard some people say hr is greatest owl played of all time

idle beacon
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wat?

remote siren
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But he was never ever considered the best mt

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Sometimes he wasnt even considered the best main tank on his own team

idle beacon
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super .. best owl player of all time?

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who talks such nonsense?

remote siren
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Have you been on reddit(

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In 2020 they were making cases for super

idle beacon
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nah i dont like that toxic place

tribal canopy
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best rein but thats it

remote siren
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Sinatraa

forest raven
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I mean those people are dumb

remote siren
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Enve thoufh he played one good season

forest raven
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I've been watching super's stream since 2018 lmao

idle beacon
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sin being best owl player of all time. might be doable, yea

forest raven
remote siren
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He played one good season

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Then retired

idle beacon
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ye i dont get the retirement

forest raven
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Let's not talk about sinatraa

idle beacon
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just for the cash?

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but then again

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sin wasn't the only one who retired because the game got stupid

remote siren
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Imagine if nadal turned into super jesus on clay and grass

idle beacon
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seagull aswell

remote siren
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For one year

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Then he retired

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And people called him the goat

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The worst retirement was prob nennee

idle beacon
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who was nennee again?

remote siren
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He used to be a top 5 player in stage 1 season 2

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Nenne

idle beacon
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ye but who?

remote siren
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He played for the nyxl

idle beacon
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gonna look at liqui

remote siren
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Back in the day

idle beacon
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why did he quit?

remote siren
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After stage 4 he was never played

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But 5nout of the players from the season 1 core are still playing

idle beacon
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so he got retired

remote siren
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Yeah

idle beacon
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sucks

remote siren
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Sbb was bettee on everything that wasnt zarya

idle beacon
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lookin at his page he played alot of dps heroes

remote siren
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Satge 4

idle beacon
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ok not alot

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4

remote siren
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When there was role lock

idle beacon
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sbb good as widow? pff πŸ˜„

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i mean, where is sbb now?

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benched forever

forest raven
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Benched by Profit and Fits

remote siren
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He is now a tracer one trick

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I mean his sombra is good

idle beacon
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ya, meaning that sbb isn't better

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sbb was a strong tracer, yea

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but i didnt like him on other heroes

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i remember him screwing up on sombra

forest raven
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Sbb was the best tracer in 2018

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And even then Boston got their 10-0 stage off the back of Striker's tracer

idle beacon
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wasn't sbb also best tracer in 2017?

remote siren
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Sbb could play bastion to an elite level

idle beacon
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nvm .. i dont know why i keep thinking that owl started in early 2017

remote siren
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His mcree was good

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His sombra was top tier back in them days of seaosn 2

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Nyxl ewnt undefeated because of it ij stage 3

idle beacon
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what was this kids name in philly

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snillo?

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his tracer was top

forest raven
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Ye

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Now he's farming mushrooms with his grandma in the forests of Sweden peepoHappy

idle beacon
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wat?

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he completly stopped gaming?

forest raven
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That's what he went to do apparently after he left OWL lmfao

idle beacon
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well he earned his cash. so πŸ™‚

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but out of all tracers i've liked strikers the most

forest raven
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Of course

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Best tracer on the planet

idle beacon
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and then libero

forest raven
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Not really

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Libero was never a tracer player

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She was like the one dps he didn't play consistently

idle beacon
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was testin ya πŸ˜„

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he was a damn good flex dps, though

worldly flax
balmy wolf
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😭

plush grail
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If u think about it

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If a player has a 350k contract

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Which some top tier players probably have

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U legit get paid as much as the titans roster

forest raven
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LoL players for C9 probably make more than the entirety of Spitfire

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Also

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@plush grail L

north relic
forest raven
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$50k

tropic herald
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That’s what it’s supposed to be but we know valiant isn’t paying that directly to players

forest raven
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IGC

rain widget
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How do I get into this esports stuff like you guys?

forest raven
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Tune into OWL each week

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Should be in your local time

willow drum
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hm

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What do you guys think hero bans

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r next month

forest raven
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Not rein, tracer, sombra, or zen

rain widget
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Okay, thanks m8

tawdry hamlet
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I fell asleep early how was fusion

forest raven
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Fusion win a 2cp map challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

tawdry hamlet
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did they run shockwave or not, because if not I probably won't even watch the game

forest raven
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Nope

tawdry hamlet
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rip my pickems were almost right

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carpe 4k on hanamura NUT

willow drum
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lmao

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who's the most overrated

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and underrated players

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in ur opinion

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guys

little tusk
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How was funnyastro?

forest raven
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I think he only played hollywood

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No he played Ilios as well

tawdry hamlet
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underrated I would say Jerry, Crimzo, eqo, overrated I would say decay, profit, jinmu, sado, maybe but none of those picks besides decay am I 100 percent

forest raven
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Profit overrated Hmm

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Hot take

tawdry hamlet
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not really super hot

forest raven
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You thinking it's not super hot makes it even hotter

little tusk
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decay fumbled hard yesteday

idle beacon
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profit overrated?

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wat?

tawdry hamlet
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empathy agrees with me 3Dlol my point valid 3Dlol also profit is hella overrated because of playoff performances and then has mediocre seasons where he has a few highlights but his team only wins like half their matches. He is a top tier tracer, everything else other players are better than him nowadays Salutations

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top 5 genji I guess

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you can now mald 3Dlol

forest raven
rain widget
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Will watching these guys make me less trash

tawdry hamlet
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Quick empathy back me up I'm scared @tropic herald monkaS

forest raven
rain widget
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Got it

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Thanks again

willow drum
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yes

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get the replay viewer

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you can analyze em

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S: Dragons, Fuel
A: Shock, Outlaws, Reign, Glads, Fusion
B: Seoul, Hunters, Eternal, Spark
C: Uprising, Justice, Mayhem, Defiant
D: NYXL, Charge, Spitfire
F: Valiant, Titans

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This is my tier list fro OWL teams

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probably very cringe takes

forest raven
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I might put Mayhem in D at this point OMEGALUL

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They got 3-0'd by Boston and lost to Defiant

willow drum
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They're decent enough in which they could survive in C

forest raven
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Well two of them are in APAC so they can't even play them

willow drum
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The game against Defiant was close

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Could see it going either way

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With checkm8 on tank

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maybe they do go to D

forest raven
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Checkmate is gonna get fucking rolled worse than OGE

willow drum
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who knows man

forest raven
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A flex dps who's never played main tank at a pro level before

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He's gonna get pooed on

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fr

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Is it a throw move to predict Shock beats Outlaws tday

north relic
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no

forest raven
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idk man

north relic
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its a 50/50 for me

forest raven
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I'm a Shock fan but I'm keeping my expectations low

idle beacon
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@tawdry hamleti wouldn't say overrated but i agree with you that he isn't as good as so many in here are claiming him to be. and well, he can't carry a whole team. if his teammate suq diq then it isn't him to be blamed. right?

willow drum
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Cause it's a revenge match

rain widget
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does replay viewer work for console

willow drum
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And Outlaws is having Main Support issues

willow drum
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I'm not sure

north relic
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whats with outlaws mt rotation also

forest raven
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You say that like Shock isn't having issues with their support rotation

willow drum
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Ok so let's see then

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The past Outlaws v Shock game

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Outlaws won

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Happy played incredibly well

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And they played Ta1yo on the first map

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And FDgod fed.

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And it was still a 3-2 victory

forest raven
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And they didn't play Twilight

willow drum
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That could have gone either way

willow drum
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And ult usage from shock was much worse

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and it was still

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taken

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to a close map 6

forest raven
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It was literally one fight

willow drum
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and they only lost cause they got unlucky

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It was like a rein shatter bug

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that caused viol2t and supports to be shattered

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So theoretically

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Shock wins

north relic
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how was it a bug?

willow drum
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When jjangu came and shattered them

north relic
willow drum
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Shatter has always been bugged

forest raven
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Shatter's a cone

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or exploited in some way

north relic
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if shatter can climb stairs it can shatter cars

willow drum
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It makes no sense tbh

forest raven
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It's a cone

willow drum
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But it's fcking vertical

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Like it has height

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Eh whatever, point is, Shock should win

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because they resolved most of the issues that held them back from winning the close series that could be decided on 1 singular ability/teamfight

forest raven
north relic
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Yea it has a vertical hit box iirc

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Like you can shatter a jumping genji sometimes

next mesa
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Broooooo seoul lost

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😩😩😩

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The seoul stonks

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They're fuckin inflated πŸ“‰

remote siren
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Seoul almost got put on the list

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Like bruh lost inconsistent org since mayhem

rain widget
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Oh, I must be behind cause I'm watching Fusion vs Charge

north relic
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Seoul just flops against shd every time

remote siren
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They plaed like they were gen g dynasty

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Not lunatic hai dynasty

willow drum
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that 1 match

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where they and shanghai go to like map 8

next mesa
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Facts

idle beacon
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when??

willow drum
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I'm being sarcastic

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Wait no

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I'm not

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I think Seoul and SHD went to a 8 mapper

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in one of the tourneys last year

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Yeah May Melee

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They went to a 8 map series

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Wait nah I'm capping they had a 7 map series

hot onyx
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No it was 7 maps

willow drum
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Shanghai Dragons reverse swept

willow drum
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guess not, they went to 7 maps

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Reverse Swept Seoul

hot onyx
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Lost all maps with Stand1

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Won all maps without Stand1

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Self explanatory

willow drum
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honestly

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I do think

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If last year wasn't such hog meta

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they could've challenged the shock to 1st

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and made it good

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Nvm, just forgot Leejaegon exists

hot onyx
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Based

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But without the dumb hog meta teams like Fusion Eternal and maybe even Charge probably wouldn’t have been smacked around like a sack of sand

willow drum
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ye

hot onyx
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I honestly hated that meta more than goats

willow drum
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Its crazy to think

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Paris Eternal went from being Bottom 3 NA

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to top 6 NA

hot onyx
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Crazy to think Paris Eternal went from being bottom 5 to top 10 to top 3 NA to bottom 3 NA to top 6 NA

willow drum
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the roller coaster

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crazy to think how glads have stayed top 5 na

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for so many seasons

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Do tournament wins affect your seeds for monthly tourneys?

hot onyx
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Seeding for monthly tourneys reset every tourney except the playoffs

tawdry hamlet
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It's funny because Paris fans can't decide if they are mad they sold out to Dallas or happy the budget roster has exceeded expectations lmao

willow drum
balmy wolf
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lol

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Also did you know

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Sp9rk1e is jacked

balmy wolf
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what is that color

tawdry hamlet
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I saw a twitter post by avalla about all the shit they got and then a comment said "don't let this victory make you think we forgave you, happy for the players but you guys are trash" lmaoo

hot onyx
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New colour McGee

tawdry hamlet
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Org malders TSMC_vibingcat

hot onyx
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Out here flexing the green mario colour

tawdry hamlet
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Yes sir

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New color Andy

hot onyx
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Looks pretty sweet

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Might change once the week long imprisonment of purple is over

tawdry hamlet
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Excited to watch Florida lose again !

hot onyx
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🚨 Checkmate doubter alert 🚨

tawdry hamlet
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That's me

hot onyx
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Imagine not believing in a fdps player to mtd two of the best winston players in the league couldn’t be me

tawdry hamlet
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Ok tbh he genuinely might beat Washington

plush grail
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U suck

hot onyx
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I don’t suck enough to lose to the Shock

willow drum
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As of this season

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Its just Outlaws I believe

hot onyx
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I’m talking about Summer Showdown Shock

willow drum
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SSS

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aka Summer Showdown Shock

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I think looks better

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personally

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Little to no personal issues

hot onyx
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The β€œViol2t acting like season 3 Jjonak” Shock

willow drum
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The only thing holding them back is comms

hot onyx
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The β€œyeah Super on a character that isn’t rein or genji isn’t a throw at all” Shock

willow drum
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Are you that big of a Shock Doubter?

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Super brings mental stability and communications to the team

hot onyx
willow drum
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Right but Super has good mental

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and leadership and communication abilities

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His Orisa and Monkey are servicable.

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How is he a Rein 1t that is throwing on other MTS?

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His Orisa is good, his monkey needs work but thats fine when you bring so much to the table besides actual gameplay

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so I don't understand people that think Super is dog on characters besides Rein/Hog

hot onyx
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Too many words not going to read 😎

willow drum
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Just go off ig, just saying you're wrong

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And if you don't wanna argue with me then I won't with u

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agree to disagree

hot onyx
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Just feels odd to have one of the best orisa/winston players on the bench for a serviceable player on the basis of better communication

willow drum
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Yeah, agree

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It does feel kind of odd

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But communication is important too

hot onyx
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But we’re not in China so we have freedom of speech and we’re allowed our own opinions wether they are right or wrong

willow drum
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Ayyy

trail perch
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Also have you seen supers mental?

hot onyx
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Unless your English is really good and you’re an escapee in that case 測って

trail perch
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during goats he started soft throwing whenever the other side has sombra

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when jjangu shattered him on lijang his mental was shattered

willow drum
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His Orisa is good

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And his Monkey can be considered bottom half

trail perch
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How many bad orisas are there

willow drum
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And his mental is still probably one of the best we have in the league

willow drum
trail perch
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I would still take fearless orisa over super

hot onyx
willow drum
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Stand1

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OML

trail perch
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Stand1 wasnt bad at orisa tho

willow drum
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Copium

trail perch
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they still ran him over fearless

willow drum
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Stand1 isn't a bad player or anything!!!!

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He's just having comm issues

willow drum
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lost to profit and friends

hot onyx
trail perch
trail perch
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think about it

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Fearless most def has a stronger mental

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having gone through 0-40 dragons

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and still being on top

willow drum
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and then what about comms?

trail perch
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being able to inspire his entire team

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Super was never a commer

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that was always moth

willow drum
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No, Super was a commer

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Him and Moth were making the calls on Shock

trail perch
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moth and viol2t did the coms last year

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Nope

willow drum
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He was the one that motivated

trail perch
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he didnt play half the season

willow drum
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But when he was in, he made calls

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He inspired people when he was in

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I seriously don't want to hear it from somebody with a catboy as a pfp

trail perch
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Ad hominums ok

hot onyx
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I agree with the purple person because their opinion is the same as mine

trail perch
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Thank you luigi

willow drum
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Not spending my energy arguing over smth we still have little to no insights on

trail perch
willow drum
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Little

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I'm not like the manager of these teams

hot onyx
willow drum
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Look, I like meming and trashing on Super as the next guy

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My point is he's a valuable player

trail perch
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Super is way overhyped

willow drum
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And isn't actively throwing when he plays characters like Orisa

trail perch
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end of story

willow drum
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Overhyped?

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Debtabale

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But he's valuable

trail perch
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His rein isnt top 3

willow drum
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Ok, so who would you put as Top 3 Reins?

north relic
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Top 3 reins?

trail perch
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Fearless, Mano

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Are my top 2

willow drum
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MANO????

trail perch
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Yes

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Mano

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He looks like a top MT

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and Philly looks amazing on rush

north relic
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I don’t watch much apac so I have no opinion

willow drum
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As a whole APAC on Rush is kinda

trail perch
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just cause hes on philly doesnt take away from his talant

willow drum
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But Fusion is good at it

north relic
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Who is the third then

trail perch
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Im thinking

hot onyx
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Fearless Mano and Fusions

trail perch
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Someone like JJangu can be up there

willow drum
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Fusions???

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wrong

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ur all fucking wrong holy

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Stand1 is #1 rein

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its not even close

trail perch
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Gator rein is very good

willow drum
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its in his name

balmy wolf
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apac is shit on rush

willow drum
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Stand as 1

hot onyx
#

We all have opinions remember

north relic
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People are sleeping on checkmate rein

willow drum
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if ur not a Stand1 fanboy what are you doing

balmy wolf
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and super is a top rein

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maybe not the best

willow drum
balmy wolf
#

but top tier

willow drum
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Its crazy to think

#

how much talent shock has

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like as a whole

trail perch
#

except MS

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Actually wait i lied

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Viol2t best MS

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Twilight best mercy

willow drum
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People sleep on Twilight Mercy so much it hrust

rain widget
#

Missed that one doom skin sadly

tawdry hamlet
#

yeah fusions is the best rein in the league by far now that hydration and shredlock retired

idle beacon
#

sarcasm?

balmy wolf
#

no

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fusions dominated on rein last season

raw ermine
#

Oh ffs

balmy wolf
#

nice

#

posted for the fourth time

raw ermine
#

Good

tribal canopy
balmy wolf
#

nice

#

posted for the fifth time

trail perch
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Idk if yall have seen this

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but

balmy wolf
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nice

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posted for the sixth time

hot onyx
balmy wolf
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nice

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posted for the seventh time

noble nexus
mortal abyss
balmy wolf
#

nice

worn falcon
balmy wolf
#

posted for the eight time

worn falcon
#

but who would contract some eu player?

balmy wolf
#

posted for the ninth time

trail perch
#

London could do quite well with him

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so could paris

feral zodiac
#

This could be bad for owl

trail perch
#

I think getting rid of salary caps actually helps owl

#

cause teams can just dump money and start dynasties

#

It creates an actual money input=result output

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which can attract bigger orgs

balmy wolf
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justice nerf

trail perch
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And with more money going to the league as a whole cause new orgs

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prize pools get larger

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orgs make more money

#

and it fixes the biggest probs

worn falcon
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yeah, thats what bobby doesnt want

#

spend more money

wide vault
#

please watch

balmy wolf
#

bruh

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of course

#

my new fav vid

willow tartan
#

like one team could just sign an additional 6 good players in the league just to bench them so other teams can't use em

wide vault
#

the cookie cliker will go up

balmy wolf
wide vault
#

lets gooo

balmy wolf
#

2 subscriber special for me

wide vault
#

ok

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subscribe guys

balmy wolf
#

your vids so good

#

wait

#

let me tell my friends

wide vault
#

ok

balmy wolf
#

<@&397922982632226816>

wide vault
#

we are making the 2 subsciber special

balmy wolf
#

I don't think so lol

wide vault
#

we are

trail perch
#

and ppl want to play

balmy wolf
#

thx phrenzy

wide vault
#

we are recoring now

#

i am not allowed to advertise now so dm me

balmy wolf
#

damn i def will

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lets gooo

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DM Advertising is just as bad lmao

#

And you're allowed to advertise, as long as it pertains to Overwatch and is posted in #video-content

#

If it doesn't match that criteria, then it isn't suitable.

worn falcon
#

Man, what is GZ lacking?

#

good dps?

tribal canopy
#

support

trail perch
#

idk kariv was looking pretty good

next mesa
#

choisehwan is SO NICE

trail perch
#

He was FARMING nanos

worn falcon
#

Kariv isnt bad, mandu eeeh can be better, Rio and Crong are good tanks

next mesa
#

they are lacking superich and diya

trail perch
#

They lacking hitscan

next mesa
#

indeed

trail perch
#

Rio isnt good

next mesa
#

yeah rio

trail perch
#

Cr0ng is insane at sig

#

they need to run moer DS

worn falcon
#

I friggin love rascal too

next mesa
#

Rascal Carpe is jsut another version of Ans Rascal

worn falcon
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ill be sad when he leaves owl tbg

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i consider him one of the best flex

next mesa
#

easily

#

very cold and reasonable cake

worn falcon
#

i remember eileen being solid last season, dont know much about choisehwan

trail perch
#

Eileen is solid, his echo is mid

#

His doom and genji and sombra are solid/great

#

Genji and doom I would say are top

worn falcon
#

yeah, i remember his sombra

#

same as genji

trail perch
#

Choisehwan was a former EM player

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nutty on tracer

#

good echo

next mesa
#

top genji

#

good doom

#

idk about his sombra

#

maybe?

trail perch
#

his sombra was pretty clean, just not coordinated team to follow up

#

Losing chara hurt them alot

next mesa
#

man I thought chara was nice

trail perch
#

Chara>mandu im going to just say it

#

Chara was a top 5 brig

#

good mercy

#

lucio was ok

#

chara was also their igl and shotcaller

forest raven
#

Sacrificing my sleep schedule so I can farm tokens EZ

remote siren
#

Alirght

#

So

#

Outlaws win this 3 1

#

I dont think the shock we are seekng has the support coordination to threaten the rest if the upper teir teams in na

next mesa
#

nah viol2t on lucio still beats crimzo

remote siren
#

Violet on lucio wont beat joobi

#

Because joobi is the fdgod of the outlaws

next mesa
#

except fdgod is the fdgod of shock

remote siren
#

(But somehow worse)

next mesa
#

fdgod > joobi
viol2t or twilight >>>>> crimzo

remote siren
#

But the tank line is better

next mesa
#

eh

#

nah

remote siren
#

Jiangu vs super?

balmy wolf
#

???

remote siren
#

Dreamer vs smurf?

balmy wolf
#

super better

north relic
#

???

#

smurf is better as well

balmy wolf
#

smurf better

next mesa
#

yeah lol

#

and choi >>> piggy

#

so

#

what

#

Ans > Happy

remote siren
#

Piggy is better than choi

north relic
#

danteh might be better than nero

next mesa
#

thats so funny

remote siren
#

Wdym?

cursive plover
#

shock just needs to play twilight on ana and viol2t on mercy for ez win (I'm not actually serious I'm completely clueless on west)

earnest leaf
#

I don't trust outlaws to beat shock

remote siren
#

Piggy has better stats

north relic
earnest leaf
#

They've been doing similar roster things to shock but with worse players

next mesa
#

how is having better stats translate to better player

#

we all know choi is better than piggy

earnest leaf
#

and remember

#

outlaws only beat shock once

#

because happy had his best game of the entire season

next mesa
#

yeah

remote siren
#

And fdgod threw

earnest leaf
#

I have yet to see happy replicate a performance like he did vs shock that day

north relic
#

so im guessing most of you guys are predding shock?

earnest leaf
#

3-1 shock imo

remote siren
#

I have yet to see shock play like like .adominate team this tournemant

forest raven
#

I'm keeping my expectations low

north relic
#

i havent predded yet its a 50/50 for me

remote siren
#

3 1 outlaws

north relic
remote siren
#

Ans just got integreated

#

Into the roster

north relic
#

they arent playing ans much

remote siren
#

And happy will clap glister so....

earnest leaf
#

when ans played in the paris game he looked back to normal

cursive plover
#

Honestly no matter what losing moth was a huge hit for shock this season

forest raven
#

Glister's been on tracer duty

remote siren
#

Its against paris

#

A middle of the pack team

next mesa
#

This man's just said Piggy is better than Choi

#

piggy is literally like marve1 level

north relic
#

hmm my preds are
3-0 paris
3-0 dallas
3-1 shock

next mesa
#

sig one trick

earnest leaf
#

I don't think outlaws are much better than paris tbh

remote siren
#

The stats dont lie

cursive plover
#

stats can lie

#

it depends on which stat though

forest raven
#

Stats are very good at lying

remote siren
#

His coordination with dreamer/jiangu is better too

earnest leaf
#

remember

#

stats wise

next mesa
earnest leaf
#

hawk was a top 3 OT

north relic
balmy wolf
#

hawk easily top 3

next mesa
#

yeah and we all know that hawk is bum

remote siren
#

Thats a flawed study

north relic
balmy wolf
#

sure

earnest leaf
#

remember

next mesa
#

Although I will say that he has improved

remote siren
#

And hawk just gets carried by his team

earnest leaf
#

space/hawk>void

next mesa
#

from last year

remote siren
#

Piggy doesnt

north relic
remote siren
#

Tehre his stats mean something

north relic
#

void is way too high there

balmy wolf
remote siren
#

Kai and pelican

#

And gatir

#

Adn umm dogman

north relic
#

dogman