hmm hydration flopped, uhh Mirror last year did it as like a meme that one time I guess
#esports-discussion
rotund sail
tawdry hamlet
I mean technically all the dps switching to zarya in goats could be described as a successful mid season role swap
limber pine
tawdry hamlet
otherwise I don't think there are any besides maybe like an old flex player from earlier seasons
that ran both roles
trail perch
hmm hydration flopped, uhh Mirror last year did it as like a meme that one time ...
mirror stills plays zar a bit
tawdry hamlet
the charge play the most passive rush I have ever seen
trail perch
If I remember correctly
tawdry hamlet
someone just asked if charge brawl is worse than spark brawl and he said they are both so bad he doesn't even know how to rank them, which sounds about right for brawl in apac
also yakpung dies literally every single fight first
it is crazy
next mesa
tf
tawdry hamlet
bronze turtle
what happens to oge in florida mayham
is it gonna be like shock that they have 2 main tanks
or is he getting benched
mortal abyss
The latter I believe
bronze turtle
maybe it is oge choice?
tawdry hamlet
I guess they are looking for a fix and didn't see any other piece they could move around which I guess I understand because oge and slime are the weakest players on the team and changing main supports is not a good idea
bronze turtle
on his twitter he said brb while retweeting the florida post
bronze turtle
you never know
bronze turtle
everyone thought gladiators would sweep paris
stuck radish
nothing can go wrong with moving your flex support to main tank right
tawdry hamlet
you guys should really watch the charge nyxl vod review when custa uploads it, I have been watching for like 30 minutes and didn't realize how much of a toilet bowl this was
yakpung turbo fed the entire series and kariv getting fucked because nobody is even looking at gwnagboong so he is just playing aim labs shooting at targets lmao
bronze turtle
lol
tawdry hamlet
and the charge brawl is so slow they give up so much space because they don't try to brawl until the nyxl engage first
it is crazy
basically just watch the kings row map
Kings row was so bad
stuck radish
was it equivalent to a ranked game
bronze turtle
I cant wait for Paris vs shock
stuck radish
paris wins 3-0 if shock plays like they did vs london
bronze turtle
I hope so
as much as I want to like shock
I just cant
one day they play real good the other day they play like LA
stuck radish
im still gonna be a shock fan even if they become s1 shanghai
tawdry hamlet
yeah I know true fans support their teams in losses, but imagine you have the lebron james of owl players in every role and you lose every other match like pls shock just be fucking consistent
stuck radish
i just want shock supports to not throw
tawdry hamlet
yeah
tawdry hamlet
choi has been worse, and viol2t fdgod have been worse, nero has been relatively consistent and ok and smurf looks just as good as ever
they are all good obviously but compared to what they have been before they look worse I mean
honestly most teams could be so much better if they took a page from dallas's book and worked on their tempo, a lot of teams have the pieces, but their timings and tempo is so incredibly off
arctic yew
genji gonna be meta and super gonna destroy
tawdry hamlet
for the love of god kariv
tawdry hamlet
after this vod review, I am thinking, charge biggest issue is easily support line, idec about rio the mistakes mandu and kariv were making were crazy bad
https://clips.twitch.tv/RelentlessHelplessSeahorseTBTacoLeft-ZMv5Bb06OqRfjnTE
he just watches the bob smack him in the face
mortal abyss
Support line + rio
tawdry hamlet
Kariv was the highlight of it though. the amount of times he fell off the high ground accidentally and nanoing the wrong person and shit like damn
why did gz go so budget this year :(((
noble nexus
we lost hydration and gained checkmate
willow tartan
equivalent exchange
trail perch
The law of conservation of matter
Can not be created nor destroyed
Can only be transfered
tis the flow of the universe
While hydrations energy grows weak and vanishes
tis tranfered to checkmate
As the torch is passed to a new generation of TRUE flex tanks
all hail checkmate
trail perch
Both of the first 2 are s1
autumn escarp
Hey i’m a bap Player in Silver I get triple kills as bap should I be in Higher rank
stuck radish
what is tank meta rn
probably winston dva or ball dva but dont bother trying to play that bc its ladder
just go rein zarya or winston zarya
kind ridge
Hey i’m a bap Player in Silver I get triple kills as bap should I be in Higher ...
more than kills to the game
lmfao
autumn escarp
more than kills to the game
I know
sullen berry
keep doing what ur doing
Inspirational
devout path
keep doing what ur doing
So if I keep doing your mom I’ll get to owl?
Sounds like a good deal
kind ridge
So if I keep doing your mom I’ll get to owl?
Yes but I’ll get there quicker
devout path
Yes but I’ll get there quicker
Speedrun?
Cuz my team has THE owl speed runner
Im37
noble nexus
you'd probably be an upgrade for them if you're above gold on MT
kind ridge
I’m bronze and console player
noble nexus
I take it back
earnest leaf
I honestly think I could replace changsik or silver3 and play better
north relic
I honestly think I could replace changsik or silver3 and play better
Do you know korean
Or Chinese I forgot
noble nexus
he could replace silver3 and changsik without comms and still be better
reckon half of this discord server could bench them tbh
devout path
I honestly think I could replace changsik or silver3 and play better
That’s a joke right
devout path
LMAO
north relic
And did well in contenders
Wait they didn’t find silver3 on the streets
earnest leaf
Haven't changsik and silver3 not played competitively for 2+ years
tropic herald
Silver3 played on a very mediocre team in China tendies
Changsik hasn’t been on a team since funi
tawdry hamlet
changsik isnt that bad tbh
I thought this too, but in the recent titans game he was turbo feeding the whole time
I genuinely think Beast and Hadi > Silver3 and Changsik at this point
well idk its actually super close but I would like to think beast and hadi are better than silver3
since they may not be the best monkey and they feed a lot on rein but silver3 literally can't play any hero
trail perch
Silver3 played on a very mediocre team in China tendies
Didnt he win contenders?
Or was that showcheng
balmy wolf
ppl told me im braindead for saying oge is gonna drag florida down
im still braindead but atleast im right
gusty rampart
You're still braindead for thinking that
sullen berry
Are you Checkmate? Because you’re looking like a pawn rn
sullen berry
Checkmate?
Mayhem chess is an actual game mode and they’re living it
idle gorge
So mayhem put an insane dps player on tank?
plush grail
pretty much
idle gorge
What are the banned heroes this season
plush grail
none
we have 2 tournaments with hero bans
and they're based on use %
we don't have season wide bans
plush grail
we have 2 tournaments with hero bans
and 2 without hero bans
the current tournament we're working towards has no hero bans
idle gorge
Ye I haven’t lmao
balmy wolf
noooo
not elsa
olaf next???
soon all frozen characters are gone
let it go let it go
sullen berry
"Through friendly negotiations, on respect to the player's wishes, we announce that Wenjie "ELSA" Luo has officially retired.
From 30 Nov 2018 when he joined the team, Elsa has been a hunter for 944 days.
Source: dah weebos
@idle gorge dont you have #esports-news perms or am I thinking of @earnest leaf ?
idle gorge
No I don’t
sullen berry
Sad
Posted a DM to modmail just now
@forest raven also realised you aren't in modmail or have perms either sad
hot onyx
Hunters get LiGe from Spark?
Reunite Team CC core for Levy to celebrate as if Seoul won the season playoffs?
worldly flax
ooh shit, the first match this week is paris vs shock's 
sullen berry
Paris being the dominant team from virtually nowhere but the tighest of EU loyals
sullen berry
Perfect for Cockwave about to take on disCharge this weekend
Even if it’s not a W for me, if it goes to a map 5 then I don’t see a problem
Third Western player after Funnyastro and EQO playing in asia this season is dope, all that's left is (unlikely) Poko
tawdry hamlet
https://twitter.com/ChengduHunters/status/1410552782399049734?s=19
Chengdu upgrade 
Elsa was a weak point so this good
worn falcon
Chengdu pls
balmy wolf
go to team recruitment
true osprey
tawdry hamlet
ha
mortal abyss
lol
tawdry hamlet
we both on it 
mortal abyss
too fast 
raw ermine
Tweet isn't loading for me
Weird
OK so she is pretty much saying none of this was caused by the org and Jimnu and ameng are active members of the team
trail perch
I think dropping ameng would make their team do better
Cause they keep on playing him and doing chengdu shit
and losing
instead of playing meta and winning
which we saw they could do may melee
vagrant cargo
tawdry hamlet
Off tank is Chengdu's weakest role
Lateyoung Elsa is not an off tank line I value very highly
noble nexus
Elsa has improved a lot this season
Lateyoung won't be good
Chengdu's season is basically over unless lateyoung overperforms or they trade for Lige
tawdry hamlet
Trading for lige would be nutworthy
tropic herald
Really Chengdu should be going for any Chinese OT rn Bc I don’t think Lateyoung is gonna be super helpful
noble nexus
he won't
Lige is probably best case scenario for them
and it makes sense considering he's benched by bernar
next mesa
Showcheng or lige
sullen berry
Imagine valiant believing they would make bank selling their players silver3 and krystal
End up selling showcheng and MOLANRAN to other chinese teams due to limited international prospects
Glads said they once considered China, Guangzhou might be looking for a Chinese player who can replace Eileen or Kaylee further down the line
sullen berry
DIYA or 
DIYA
next mesa
guangzhou maybe
sullen berry
I'd assume the latter
next mesa
chengdu has leave
sullen berry
We thought no hill or mer1t might join, but I think the connections maybe lost on the Charge GM Ethan
His reach alone is heavily limited to orgs and team from the Pacific and Korean talent. Great on paper until you start expecting to chase down A-tier veteran talent like Kariv
Talon players are looking like high prospects if runaway are living up to their namesake
Choisehwan can be reunited with one of his past players on EM
tawdry hamlet
nohill as an assistant to undine in new york would have me creaming, pls new york make up for years of imt abuse with an upgrade PLEASE
next mesa
Jjonak Superich support line 😱
tawdry hamlet
that as well would be big stonks if they can get jjonak performing again
he isn't bad obviously he is one of the most mechanically sound players in the game but coaching go brrr
wicked pendant
raw ermine
Yep...
mortal abyss
earnest leaf
I do not have posting perms
next mesa
wtf u have regular doe
earnest leaf
I meant perms for posting in #esports-news
plush grail
ur cringe
supple prism
oh wow, i just realized im doing much better this tournament over the last tournaments in preds
noble nexus
pretty sure I'm first for our pickems leaderboard too lol
noble nexus
my apac has been decent too except for the nyxl charge game
I was talking about being first in total
I'm 4th in ss
noble nexus
it's because he goes hard on seoul and seoul decided to play well
balmy wolf
yeah
balmy wolf
9 points for seoul games
earnest leaf
seoul not so good in knockouts
noble nexus
plus that nyxl charge game was like my only bad one
I'm too high on nyxl 😔
Levy might wanna change his preds for the shock paris game because we know damn well the shock aren't sweeping paris
lmfao
balmy wolf
sure
next mesa
Levy might wanna change his preds for the shock paris game because we know damn ...
EHHHHH
We'll see
noble nexus
paris or shock?
earnest leaf
shock
noble nexus
idk shock are cock
noble nexus
yeahhh
balmy wolf
shock going 3-1
earnest leaf
I think paris adjusted really well
noble nexus
I want the shock to win because I'm a glads shock fan
earnest leaf
but glads could very easily of shut that game down instantly 3-0
earnest leaf
yea but shock has a week to stop being chimps
noble nexus
ehhhhh
idk I think they need to find more assistant coaches still too
because they aren't even trying to replace agape
earnest leaf
here's what happens
shock forces dive
and wins
glads kept forcing their genji sombra doom silly picks
and that's why they shit the bed
forest raven
Bro the seasons over half done and they still haven't unchimped their support rotation
forest raven
They nearly lost to London so that doesn't apply
earnest leaf
Basically I don't doubt shock's ability to study a team and practice to beat them
especially when that team is mid tier
remember, shock is still 8-2
Only lost two games in the regular season, both of which were map 5s
forest raven
They had viol2t throwing the game on lucio and mercy against London man
earnest leaf
They won those maps where he played that
I don't think he should be on lucio mercy
but they won those maps
forest raven
Against any other team they would have lost lmfao
balmy wolf
shock goes 3-1 just like paris
forest raven
Besides Vancouver
earnest leaf
one game doesn't dictate the performance of a team for the whole season
people forgot shock pounded dallas's ass in the june joust qualifiers
And hyper focus on losses or close games
And ignore when they do well
forest raven
It's been like four months and shock still doesn't know what to do with their support line up
That's bad
earnest leaf
tbf
in the games that have mattered (knockouts) it wasn't just the support line being an issue
Their issue is they fucking can't click as a team for some reason
balmy wolf
btw the 4-0 curse is gonna be broken in ss
earnest leaf
They aren't playing like a team with those pieces should, their whole teamwork is just ass
forest raven
Maybe if they stopped rotating their main support player and let their flex support focus on being a flex support things could look better. Maybe not, I might be totally fucking wrong, but Shock doesn't have an established backbone for their team still
Viol2t's played dps, ms and flex supp this season and I feel like there's a chance he's been spread a bit thin because of it
Or maybe his ego is just so huge his brain has shrunk
worn falcon
put supper on dps
ans super dps line
and for some reason i feel glister maybe burning out
Nero still being B tier.
noble nexus
nero is not b tier lol
he's atleast A
he just doesn't synergise with super well
or super just doesn't call shatters
they just need to figure out their dps line
plush grail
balmy wolf
i kinda love you ngl
noble nexus
yikes atlanta 3-0 justice?
plush grail
justice has been looking GARBAGE
devout path
??????
balmy wolf
justice gonna get rolled on rush maps
noble nexus
they look garbage when they don't play decay lol
balmy wolf
dive 1tricks
noble nexus
they're starting to play him again
devout path
No decay no win
plush grail
i dont think this team will beat atlanta in any timeline
tawdry hamlet
hero pools nerfed them so hard lmao
balmy wolf
and?
tawdry hamlet
Decay not able to play tracer, and a weird comp? Coaches: Fuck it force dive
Justice need a main tank capable of rush
noble nexus
they started playing decay in that florida map
and lost to shock showing up after it
idk if they play decay they probably win
or it's atleast close
tawdry hamlet
decay can gap edison on the tracer obviously but pelican > assassin and Kai > Jerry and Atlanta can do diff comps, it really comes down to what maps are played because one team can do dive only and the other can do rush double shield and a meh dive if they tried
devout path
decay can gap edison on the tracer obviously but pelican > assassin and Kai > Je...
However decay > kai
balmy wolf
agreed
tawdry hamlet
yeah but decay isn't going to play the flickscan when tracer is meta
and available to play
noble nexus
justice can maybe force dive hard enough to edge out some maps tho
balmy wolf
However decay > kai
your opinion is bad and shouldnt be cared about
devout path
yeah but decay isn't going to play the flickscan when tracer is meta
Hitscan echo maybe
noble nexus
decay will gap kai if they do for whatever reason go head to head on long range hitscan
balmy wolf
if echo is gonna be played atlanta wins
balmy wolf
decay will gap kai if they do for whatever reason go head to head on long range ...
idk man you guys keep overrating his long ranged hscans
decay cracked
balmy wolf
but i dont think he will diff a top hs
noble nexus
decay is a top hs too tho
plush grail
onigod = kai > decay
balmy wolf
onigod = kai > decay
my man
noble nexus
lmfao
balmy wolf
exactly
tawdry hamlet
this is the most absurd twitter thread I have ever read holy shit
https://twitter.com/Jarew_OW/status/1410349629904990208?s=20
Twitter
plush grail
who??
tawdry hamlet
funny how every time he was in actual contenders and not just eu open division obey got rolled
plush grail
god he's legit on the edge of big problems
my man don't post something shitty like that and then post about ur uni
balmy wolf
some points are valid imo
tawdry hamlet
the one trick points sure that is reasonable discussion but the other shit is just so 
plush grail
he has some okay points but then says shit like this
noble nexus
lgbtqia+ twitter people thing is just honestly brainless
balmy wolf
yeah thats too far
balmy wolf
but i agree that its dumb to cancel crimzo cause he said the r word in a ranked game
tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
thats so nitpicky
dawn rune
you can critique without being homophobic/mocking lgbtq community - gentle reminder that that behaviour will not be acceptable here
balmy wolf
idk maybe im wrong but i think its whatever
dawn rune
(just in case this discussion triggers some weirdos like a dogwhistle)
tawdry hamlet
cancel no, ask him to do better sure. 
dawn rune
and they should work on that
tawdry hamlet
yeah exactly, just ask them to do better is all, since viol2t isn't cancelled and he literally told someone to off themselves on stream lmao
balmy wolf
cancel no, ask him to do better sure. <:Salutations:520101260041519108>
thats completly fine but some are going too far
tawdry hamlet
anyway that thread is my dose of twitter for the day
noble nexus
that type of shit is why I quit twitter
willow tartan
cancel no, ask him to do better sure. <:Salutations:520101260041519108>
me no understand "cancel"
what if you just say "no" to ppl on twitter 
plush grail
anyway that thread is my dose of twitter for the day <:omegalul:4710681210929807...
i'm not losing because i'm bad, it's because of the lgbtq+ members on my team!
dawn rune
me @ myself
little tusk
onigod
balmy wolf
i'm not losing because i'm bad, it's because of the lgbtq+ members on my team!
but ur still bad
tawdry hamlet
digital cloud
My only real note is that he is complaining about seemingly minute shit and also bothered about other people complaining about minute shit
tawdry hamlet
yeah that too, often times the ones who call others sensitive are the ones who post 8 tweet long threads about a minute issue
plush grail
people are not even gonna remember him for his gameplay lmao, they're gonna remember this shit take
digital cloud
I mean, I can see why you would get annoyed by people being “over sensitive” but actually whining about it. . . Makes you look over sensitive
tawdry hamlet
yes former contenders/open division main tank in eu
digital cloud
But anyway, most of this just reminds me of other burned out players
Ow does this to a man
willow tartan
overwatch is like drugs bro
plush grail
overwatch is like drugs bro
taking drugs can be fun, overwatch is NOT fun
willow tartan
speaking of overwatch
tawdry hamlet
a lot of burned out players do often blow up on twitter at some point, Carter from that team that vancouver was too cheap to pick up last may and a backup for Maryville uni had his burnout blow up a few weeks back
tawdry hamlet
every so often a contenders player posts this massive rant about how they are retiring and the game is shit and fuck blizzard
big funny
willow tartan
path to poverty doing its job
balmy wolf
With Striker gone
tawdry hamlet
granted carter was justified since he literally got shafted out of a spot in the league
digital cloud
Friendly reminder to not blow up on Twitter because Twitter is a cesspool of shit and nothing else good
balmy wolf
Danteh is the best tracer in the league now
tawdry hamlet
yaki
willow tartan
friendly reminder to not use twitter
balmy wolf
yooo
tawdry hamlet
digital cloud
If you burn out do it somewhere else
plush grail
friendly reminder to not use twitter
i only use instagram to stalk marbel
digital cloud
Lol imagine talking to marbel
balmy wolf
i only use instagram to stalk marbel
hello baby
willow tartan
i only use instagram to stalk marbel
no, you should be like me and not have social media platforms installed
i only use discord to talk about overwatch
plush grail
no, you should be like me and not have social media platforms installed
but i need a place where i can simp for paris players
willow tartan
because overwatch is the only thing holding my life together
digital cloud
Yeah, I talk about esports on discord and that is about it
I avoid dms after all the YouTuber drama shit going down
willow tartan
but i need a place where i can simp for paris players
whomst the fuck is marbel
plush grail
whomst the fuck is marbel
the atlanta fanboy
digital cloud
Why can’t people just not talk
plush grail
ansgaming
digital cloud
Were you even here when he first showed up
plush grail
suggestion
willow tartan
trueing
willow tartan
what
plush grail
please get a social life
willow tartan
[Joke]
plush grail
owl is not a social life
digital cloud
At least Atlanta is sort of ok now
balmy wolf
suggestion
you leaked we are friends
digital cloud
Apparently all you need is a top dps line
balmy wolf
ppl know now
digital cloud
Online friends
willow tartan
Apparently all you need is a top dps line
yeah thats why seoul is good
digital cloud
Kinda hard to judge that
balmy wolf
Kinda hard to judge that
plush grail
Kinda hard to judge that
we hold hands irl and wear matching daan and vestola jerseys
balmy wolf
we hold hands irl and wear matching daan and vestola jerseys
i have a kaan bodypillow
dont forget that
supple prism
the hell is going on?
balmy wolf
same
digital cloud
I rarely hurt anyone on purpose
balmy wolf
only in ranked games to roll your ass
willow tartan
id meet that one guy that keeps saying shock will get a 3peat
have some nice things i wanna do to him
plush grail
digital cloud
Who was that
digital cloud
Speaking of that, what happened to uvalo
plush grail
i'd either get beat up or bullied cause of my constant paris shitposting
plush grail
Speaking of that, what happened to uvalo
he posts like once a month now
digital cloud
You are too powerful
digital cloud
His power waned
willow tartan
sort of true
striker tracer has been worse this season
other tracers have appeared out of nowhere
plush grail
wasn't uvalo a hardcore nyxl simp
digital cloud
There has also been less tracer play
willow tartan
uhh
digital cloud
No, I think uvalo was a
willow tartan
what about tracer in the entirety of the may melee
digital cloud
Hmmm
supple prism
Shock is still 2nd
digital cloud
I don’t remember who uvalo liked
balmy wolf
nyxl
supple prism
in NA
willow tartan
o
supple prism
tied for 3rd
tawdry hamlet
who plays tracer for chengdu?
digital cloud
It wasn’t nyxl
willow tartan
that would be
mortal abyss
He was less a nyxl simp more of an Atlanta hater
digital cloud
I am fairly sure
willow tartan
it depends on their lineup
plush grail
uvalo was just violence
willow tartan
since they have fucky hero pools
tawdry hamlet
I am trying to make a tier list of the teams based only on how good their tracer is and im blanking on chengdu
digital cloud
He was like really angry levy
willow tartan
leave picks up the tracer iirc
plush grail
ur all gonna look fucking dumb when paris wins the summer showdown btw
willow tartan
since they arlso echo player though so if it is echo tracer then
devout path
I am trying to make a tier list of the teams based only on how good their tracer...
Leave
balmy wolf
ur all gonna look fucking dumb when paris wins the summer showdown btw
that would be sick
digital cloud
Leave overall is crazy
devout path
wow lily don't tell mr bbq to leave, thats mean
I am mean yep
plush grail
I am mean yep
hello mean im ian
devout path
hello mean im ian
Ew
supple prism
man, I just want Fusion to win something
noble nexus
hello mean im ian
Ew
devout path
That’s an ugly name
tawdry hamlet
so where does edison stack up to other tracers, he is far from s tier but he isn't Below B tier but idk if he is worthy of A tier
noble nexus
Edison tracer is an like c tier at best
balmy wolf
hes under top tracer
noble nexus
:)
plush grail
tired of calling you luigi
call me mr luigi from now on ty
tawdry hamlet
Edison tracer is an like c tier at best
based but I didn't want to offend marbel
balmy wolf
call me mr luigi from now on ty
oke ian
balmy wolf
based but I didn't want to offend marbel <:omegalul:471068121092980776>
no bias i think hes mid to high mid
got rolled by yaki
balmy wolf
idk
tawdry hamlet
this is what i have before but none of it is set in stone because I don't actually know how leaves tracer is and aspire has only played one series and glads barely play tracer and glister is hit or miss
balmy wolf
you only seen him play against yaki
noble nexus
Leave has had a great tracer hasn't he?
balmy wolf
this is what i have before but none of it is set in stone because I don't actual...
good rankings but shax is not a
tawdry hamlet
I think but I can;'t remember so I put him in b as a placeholder lmao
willow tartan
aspire isnt even their tracer player
noble nexus
lmfao
plush grail
why is like all of esports discussion here rn
balmy wolf
swap shy and leave for nyxl and shax
willow tartan
the tracer player named nyxl?
tawdry hamlet
fair, flora is really solid on tracer tho
willow tartan
sadge
tawdry hamlet
idk if danteh should be that high since cross region play hasn't happened in forever
balmy wolf
hes better on cree
willow tartan
since houston cant qualify?
tawdry hamlet
updated
plush grail
updated <:Salutations:520101260041519108>
???????????????????????
balmy wolf
also choi > im37
hot onyx
this is what i have before but none of it is set in stone because I don't actual...
ChoiSehWan is not that low
hot onyx
What the fuck is my clone doing
balmy wolf
kevster is a
tawdry hamlet
I forgot because eileen played tracer a bit in the nyxl series so I forgot about choi for some reason
plush grail
updated <:Salutations:520101260041519108>
onigod is fr top tier my man
hot onyx
I forgot about any other team except paris
tawdry hamlet
if Toronto didn't have aspire they would be bottom ass tier on tracer
unless heesu is hiding a tracer somewhere in his brain
plush grail
<:hmm:782847820452855818> if Toronto didn't have aspire they would be bottom as...
also london > paris??
i'd take onigod over shax any day
tawdry hamlet
as much as london performance over all has made him look far worse he is still like a solid known tracer one trick
I mean on valiant last year he cleaned up
tawdry hamlet
shax ksp was a stacked dps line 
in the ashe tracer meta that was around forever
plush grail
shax overrated
hot onyx
Fixed the list
tawdry hamlet
plush grail
Fixed the list
why does it look so scuffed
devout path
why does it look so scuffed
Cuz it’s wrong
willow tartan
shax ksp was a stacked dps line <a:angerybongo:585617799548895233> in the ashe t...
shax sparkr will be too if the right meta is in
hot onyx
why does it look so scuffed
Because I was busy doin’ your mom while making it
devout path
Because I was busy doin’ your mom while making it
Wow you really did a your mom joke to yourself
plush grail
Wow you really did a your mom joke to yourself
thats not me dumbass
devout path
Also incest???
hot onyx
thats not me dumbass
yes it is
tawdry hamlet
shax sparkr will be too if the right meta is in
they will but I don't think a low A tier tracer and an A tier flickscan fresh out of tendies is enough to deadlift london
balmy wolf
lol
devout path
Luigi so attention starved he’s talking to himself
balmy wolf
lily doesnt know
willow tartan
if hadi can play like he did during the shock match
then theyll be at least
not too bad
noble nexus
we're literally witnessing identity fraud wtf
tawdry hamlet
I mean it is funny because hadi was making tons of mistakes as well, but the overall success of the team made him look infinitely better
noble nexus
LOL
hot onyx
Luigi so attention starved he’s talking to himself
at least i’m smart enough to speak
earnest leaf
Like hadi had maybe 3 good plays
tawdry hamlet
hadi just has awful positioning from what I have noticed
willow tartan
yea
earnest leaf
and all 3 were on nepal
willow tartan
nero kept isolating him
devout path
Wait who’s the fake Luigi tf
tawdry hamlet
like he mechanically can swing his dick around but when he pushes up he gets isolated every single time
willow tartan
dude remember the charge on fkn oasis?
balmy wolf
Wait who’s the fake Luigi tf
hahaha
plush grail
@hot onyx i have gf and u don't, i win
hot onyx
Wait who’s the fake Luigi tf
the one with the brighter pfp
balmy wolf
noticed it
tawdry hamlet
dude watch the charge nyxl kings row game, that shit is fucking infuriating how passive charge were playing rush
devout path
I know which is the fake but who is it
hot onyx
<@!398500839469219850> i have gf and u don't, i win
oh so just because my girlfriend is trans means she isn’t a real girl?
balmy wolf
research
tawdry hamlet
they were scared of pushing so they decided to wait for nyxl to open the engage and it was so painful
plush grail
its cowboy sans
noble nexus
^^^
tawdry hamlet
they gave up ass loads of space
willow tartan
dude
devout path
Oh it’s sans
hot onyx
where is your proof
willow tartan
i hate rush so much
plush grail
he's going insane
devout path
oh so just because my girlfriend is trans means she isn’t a real girl?
Since when did you have a girlfriend
tawdry hamlet
i hate rush so much
the other cursed moments were forcing dive on kings row
because they were so bad at rush
hot onyx
Since when did you have a girlfriend
since I met your mother
plush grail
OWL teams should agree to stop playing rush
u prolly like goats, like a BITCH
devout path
since I met your mother
My mom isn’t trans
noble nexus
goats was fun
devout path
u prolly like goats, like a BITCH
Goats best meta
noble nexus
tf you mean
balmy wolf
My mom isn’t trans
yeah trans is your mom
devout path
yeah trans is your mom
No
devout path
I’m my mom
willow tartan
your mom wasted trans lol
hot onyx
My mom isn’t trans
nah we broke up because she nearly crushed me during a face sitting session and I found a new gf who isn’t larger than the solar system
willow tartan
baited
devout path
nah we broke up because she nearly crushed me during a face sitting session and ...
???????
tawdry hamlet
https://clips.twitch.tv/RelentlessHelplessSeahorseTBTacoLeft-ZMv5Bb06OqRfjnTE
this literally feels like me in ranked whenever I pop an ult
hot onyx
lost the ability to find Joe attractive
tawdry hamlet
then you have Kariv fall off the high ground and get trapped between the wall and the ledge by chois ice wall
https://clips.twitch.tv/RockyDeafRavenOhMyDog-gr5f5KBLqPsQ7icV
noble nexus
charge support line makes so many mistakes
it's sad
because they're good when they're not falling off of high ground
willow tartan
dude kariv was getting bullied that game
noble nexus
or whatever they were doing
plush grail
wasn't kariv legit amazing during the pre-season tournament thing
why is he so shit noe
tawdry hamlet
and here we have Kariv missing the nano lmao
https://clips.twitch.tv/PolishedCheerfulSquidCurseLit-7p3ssgVXe9q5iUKd
willow tartan
lollll
trail perch
why is he so shit noe
cause ppl know how good he is
and dedicate a shit ton to shutting him down
tawdry hamlet
well yeah because he is washed as fuck atm
hot onyx
Spell Kariv but replace “riv” with “an”
tawdry hamlet
so everyone puts him down because he was at one point really really good
which on one hand isn't fair, but on the other hand with the mistakes he is making
plush grail
me > kariv
noble nexus
^^^^
willow tartan
maybe apac teams are so inconsistent because they keep changing coaches every stage
noble nexus
I did that once too
tawdry hamlet
like losing nero happy and shu all at once tragic, but with their roster this season if they had a coach to fix their awful tempo they could at least look competitive
trail perch
losing nero not a problem
happy and shu r big blows
Also losing chara must hurt
He was big igl and captain
tawdry hamlet
I mean chara went into coaching iirc
trail perch
They should have just made him a coach
next mesa
Kariv is just making a lot of silly mistakes
tawdry hamlet
chara coaches t1 now which is cool for him, I don't recall a lot of nero even playing other than reaper and like something else, eileen was the better flex at the time
trail perch
Chara was a top 5 brig
plush grail
Kariv is just making a lot of silly mistakes
dont say the s word please
trail perch
alright, who is chengdu replacing elsa with <:hmm:782847820452855818>
LiGe
devout path
dont say the s word please
Salamander
plush grail
wish me luck
eat shit
trail perch
Its going to happen
tawdry hamlet
and who does chengdu play next because I am not looking forward to lateyoung
and yeah I really hope so
lige is way too good to be wasting away on the bench
if his mental is better that is
if not understandable
tawdry hamlet
Lige would actually be such a fat upgrade lowkey, like Lige Gaga tankline 
noble nexus
he's staying on because he found out Elsa was retiring too
plush grail
Salamander
lily no
tawdry hamlet
I need to rewatch team cc matches now to see if there is any reason whatsoever to play 1987 because if I recall correctly he was really really good
devout path
lmao boston fan
Lmao paris fan
tawdry hamlet
also for fuck sake Toronto please you stole aztac from teams like charge and you won't even use him 
plush grail
Lmao paris fan
im sad now
devout path
im sad now
Good
plush grail
ty!
trail perch
Who plays tmrw tho?
next mesa
Yeah that mans kdg is kinda overrated
trail perch
!!schedule
next mesa
Aztac is like bonified established top contendies suppport
devout path
@plush grail can your daan do this
feral zodiac
I don't think kdg is overrated
trail perch
toronto with aspire looks quite strong
plush grail
<@!196967745877704705> can your daan do this
daan diffed muze
feral zodiac
I think there's much more than the headcoach to how good a staff team is
trail perch
Toronto with aspire is top 7 NA
tawdry hamlet
yeah junkbuck proved that lmao
feral zodiac
I think everything has to gel right
tawdry hamlet
yeah, coaching diffs are so fun to watch tho because you see things like Hotba
hot onyx
remember when the justice beat paris?
remote siren
I think itd be better if the teams did the bans per match then blizzard per stage
I dont understand why its in comp or owl
willow tartan
I think itd be better if the teams did the bans per match then blizzard per stag...
yes please
why cant owl bans just be
per match
so teams can strategize
- map bans too
instead of having a map pool
willow tartan
doesnt have to be a draft
trail perch
do a strike system
remote siren
Per team
trail perch
no
remote siren
Or in total?
trail perch
together
willow tartan
in total
trail perch
Do a strike system
remote siren
A strike system?
mortal abyss
next mesa
And it's like oh shit what are they gonna play
willow tartan
coaching change?
trail perch
one bans supp
willow tartan
lets goooo
next mesa
https://twitter.com/nyxl/status/1410697216923258889?s=21
Humongous dub
trail perch
dps is split
remote siren
But what about map bans?
trail perch
strike system
willow tartan
just do what csgo does
trail perch
they take turns banning
willow tartan
therse enough maps for it
trail perch
till one map is left
then they go there
or
Just do the smash system
you strike on control
then each team gets one ban
and loser picks
willow tartan
mm
loser doesnt pick in non tournament games rn
idk why but its just random for qualifiers
trail perch
yeah cause its preset
sullen berry
@plush grail @hot onyx alright this isn't hard, one here is a waste of time and the other is not the Luigi we know because they don't have veteran
trail perch
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trail perch
almost there
balmy wolf
!!joined
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You joined on Apr 04, 2019
plush grail
<@196967745877704705> <@398500839469219850> alright this isn't hard, one here is...
he's going insane my man
balmy wolf
already there
hot onyx
Better copy than you marbel
balmy wolf
Better copy than you marbel
my stupidity cant be copied
next mesa
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next mesa
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hot onyx
my stupidity cant be copied
76K people disagree with you
balmy wolf
76K people disagree with you
these are cool ppl stop emberassing yourself
hot onyx
these are cool ppl stop emberassing yourself
you’re one of them so that automatically makes them doodoo
balmy wolf
you’re one of them so that automatically makes them doodoo
no im a special case im not worthy to be compared with these great ppl
balmy wolf
im kind(a) car(ry)ing you
round pine
back with the same question as last month who's got the skins for this month?
plush grail
we don't know
devout path
back with the same question as last month who's got the skins for this month?
For contenders?
round pine
Yes
hot onyx
If hog doesn’t have the contenders logo tattooed on his belly button I will no longer support t2
I will jump ship and support T1
Clestyn best ot
earnest leaf
3-1 shock
Or 3-0 shock
I'm not gonna put a lot of stock into week 1 games
Saw way too many comps and styles
noble nexus
3-2 shock or 3-2 paris
I think we can blame all the huge roster changes for shock looking uncoordinated and looking like they're mentally boomed
earnest leaf
There are two different shock's
The one that 3-1ed dallas
And the one we've seen way too much of lately
earnest leaf
Daan still their mt
fallen turret
why does dallas never play rapel?
tepid ibex
Why would you play rapel when you have fielder
fallen turret
how many other players are there who just have no reason to be played?
tepid ibex
On Dallas?
fallen turret
in general
tepid ibex
Uh
tepid ibex
how many other players are there who just have no reason to be played?
Also rapel does have a reason, if theirs ever a double flex support meta then they’ll most likely run rapel fielder
which seems nutty
next mesa
Profit pog
willow tartan
dude jecse got bullied in that promo vid lol
tawdry hamlet
in general
tons of flex supports and projectile dps around the league are hella benched
like mirror was, hydration was, 1987, yveltal etc
but mirror and yveltal have seen some play recently
Logix is perma benched in Toronto and Lateyoung up until recently was perma benched like Lige in hz
tawdry hamlet
<@398500839469219850> why <:Boston:830552727092199454> https://discord.com/chan...
what about it
tawdry hamlet
I mean I would have preferred nohill but undine is cool
oh I just worried I messed up the post or something lmaoo
tawdry hamlet
I should become a fan of a team so I can be like you guys and be sadge when my team bad, like lily marbel and luigi and you with the charge
but there is no team I inherently like just a couple rosters I think are cool
I just follow the players more than the team as a whole I guess
tropic herald
So you should be a Shanghai fan because we have void AND lip
noble nexus
^^^^
noble nexus
I'd try to convince you to be a glads fan but it's pure misery
tawdry hamlet
Tbh recently if you aren't a Dallas fan it's all misery lmao
earnest leaf
or be a shock fan
where shock will tease you for a few games
then blue ball you for important games
tawdry hamlet
I find the spark roster interesting, lot of potential stars and then the old veteran in architect. I like a lot of the apac rookie based rosters
Blue balls by shock 
They do a little trolling
tropic herald
If you are Shanghai you win the important games but not the most important games