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trail perch
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it was a deadlift

vagrant cargo
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Clestyn did well too

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Lol

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Every map clestyn played he performed good

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Especialy vs justice

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Profit is good hes just not a top tier fdps

balmy wolf
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he was

willow tartan
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who u think is the best all rounder fdps rn

raw ermine
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fleta, or kevster

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rascal maybe

vagrant cargo
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Fleta Kevster

balmy wolf
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easily pelican

vagrant cargo
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Rascal could be if he steps up again

balmy wolf
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or fleta

willow tartan
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rascal could be if his team actually qualified

vagrant cargo
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Also all around fdps depends a lot on Definition of it

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If u include hitscans then leave fleta kevster

balmy wolf
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yeah

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only fdps heroes its pelican

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no bias

vagrant cargo
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Prolly him or fleta ye

willow tartan
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pelican got shut down tho

balmy wolf
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what?

willow tartan
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during the jj matches

balmy wolf
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lol

trail perch
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I mean he tried and almsot suceeded 1v6ing dallas

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Remember nepal

willow tartan
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haha yea

balmy wolf
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pelican still carried the f out of atl

willow tartan
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trueing

vagrant cargo
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Pelican on any top team

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Would fuck even harder

balmy wolf
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i mean

vagrant cargo
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Pelican on philly glads Shanghai

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Would be unstoppable

balmy wolf
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i do consider atlanta a top team

vagrant cargo
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Eh

willow tartan
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pelican on shanghai aka perma benched until retirement

vagrant cargo
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Atlanta are good

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But i dont give a team w hawk gator and masaa top tier

balmy wolf
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only dallas and shanghai are built diff

vagrant cargo
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Their win condition is easy to exploit for rlly good teams

balmy wolf
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yeah they are not meta proof

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i wish they would pick up a monkey 1trick

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and skewed 2.0

vagrant cargo
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I mean rumors are atlants are already after finn ojee someone and attack

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Pelican Kai Someone Attack Ojee Finn is a god tier roster

balmy wolf
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any sauce?

vagrant cargo
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Baaz0

balmy wolf
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oh

vagrant cargo
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Is the only one i share

balmy wolf
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i was hyped for 1 sec

vagrant cargo
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Idk if he got it from the sane ppl as me

earnest leaf
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ojee doesn't turn 18 till mid september

vagrant cargo
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I mean baaz is often right

earnest leaf
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So this would be a plan for next season

vagrant cargo
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Yes neither do attack and someone

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Both ubderage for this season

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And finn

balmy wolf
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ye

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i mean

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faze established faze as the no1 in cdl

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they could pump more money into the owl team next season

vagrant cargo
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Also off topic

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But can we talk avt how much of a W this season has been for EU

balmy wolf
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ye

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feels good to be eu

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im proud

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esp kaan

vagrant cargo
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Kevster Kai Naga Onigod Kaan Dridro Vestola and soon shockwave and fastro

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Are all rlly good

vagrant cargo
balmy wolf
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how

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who better?

vagrant cargo
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Ppl just discredit eu

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Nobody is better

balmy wolf
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exactly

vagrant cargo
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Also EQO and mirror are EU talent as well

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And both are pounding

balmy wolf
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not from eu tho

vagrant cargo
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Yeah but we consider them eu talent

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Also mirror was on team latvia

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With sharyk

balmy wolf
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u think west > apac?

vagrant cargo
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Nah

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Or do u mean owl regions

balmy wolf
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yes

vagrant cargo
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I think NA region>apac pretty easily yeah

balmy wolf
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not talent obv

balmy wolf
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im not the only one

vagrant cargo
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Glads Atlanta Dallas Shock and even this new paris would prolly be at worst top 3 in every meta in apac

balmy wolf
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agreed

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even in dive meta

vagrant cargo
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Maybe top 4 if chengdu or spark feel it but ehen then id take glads shock dallas for sure over them

balmy wolf
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apac is so onedimensional

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trying to force dive everywhere

vagrant cargo
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Ye

tawdry hamlet
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I swear Spark and Chengdu just don't like winning

willow tartan
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chengdu? winning? lol

willow tartan
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smack each other all the time

devout path
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Is there owl today

balmy wolf
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no

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its monday

devout path
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Sad

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Owl every day

willow tartan
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pls

devout path
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Fuck u

willow tartan
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i want owl everyday

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its the only thing i look forward to in life

devout path
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Same

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And my joyfriend

balmy wolf
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ah yes

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the joyfriend

willow tartan
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OWL is my joyfriend

chilly jolt
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i had a dream last night that shock lost 3-2 to valiant

devout path
chilly jolt
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extremely

tropic herald
tawdry hamlet
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WinstonThink Kenobi sent that yesterday iirc

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always on it with that charge news

sullen berry
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And the medium posts, mind you

earnest leaf
balmy wolf
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rip

raw ermine
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Oof

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Not sure if he retired tho

true hound
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rip

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who’s gonna pick him up lmao

balmy wolf
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london could use a good mt

sullen berry
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Hydration to me is still the man of few words

raw ermine
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nah don't do that to hadi

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lol

sullen berry
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He probably said K and was good to go to free agency

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Still Brazil's finest flex players

willow drum
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Why do some members of their teams wear another teams skins?

frosty shell
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what team will be extra hydrated next

willow drum
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Like Fearless has the SF Shock skins equipped on all his heroes

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Is this like a leak he's going to Shock?

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Or is he just doing it for the fun of it?

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doing it as a taunt

frosty shell
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no idea

next mesa
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FOR FUN

willow drum
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Does Fearless even have a Twitter?

raw ermine
willow drum
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nice

sullen berry
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I'm sure Dallas doesn't have a strict rule saying you have to wear X skin for them, you can imagine it'd be kind of oppressive if they did enforce it

plush grail
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he either likes the color, it's a way of disrespecting, could be in honor of a player, or is just a fan of the team

willow tartan
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what i do want to see though is

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allow fleta to wear his mvp skin in OWL matches bro

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zzz

mortal abyss
mortal abyss
trail perch
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I think mvps should use their mvp skin

mortal abyss
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That’d be Cool aswell

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Though it wouldn’t fit with the team colours

tawdry hamlet
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@vagrant cargo myman nice ratio chief

unknown.png
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I approve

vagrant cargo
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LMAO

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thx

next mesa
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losing to raphtalia is no shame

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mans sad doe

devout path
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Wait what was the fleta mvp skin again

tawdry hamlet
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the echo one

next mesa
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good and evil

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echo

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very cool

tawdry hamlet
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with the split red and blue face

next mesa
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FUCK i coudlnt get it

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FUCK

devout path
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Oh the echo one

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That one was lame

next mesa
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shut up bitch

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god that one was

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SO SEXY

devout path
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Jjonak mvp skin better

tepid ibex
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Fleta mvp skin >>

devout path
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No

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Jjonak mvp skin >>>>>

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But every spark skin > jjonak mvp skin

next mesa
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i mean

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they're both good

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dont understand

devout path
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No

plush grail
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better

devout path
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Fleta mvp skin was lame

next mesa
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damn you shouldnt be allowed 2 have an opinion

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😩

devout path
plush grail
devout path
plush grail
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good joke

next mesa
devout path
tepid ibex
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paris skins meh

plush grail
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blocked

tepid ibex
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I’m not wrong though

hot onyx
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Hydration

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Beast

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Takoyaki

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All my favourite main tanks are leaving

tawdry hamlet
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Shredlock!

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how could you forget him smh

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fake fan of true main tank goats

barren quest
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Hydration to Titans

tawdry hamlet
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if visas and language barriers and history and shit didn't exist and we were able to get like godsb to vancouver I would NUT

next mesa
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no i wouldnt want godsb to go to vancouver actually

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i want vancouver to pick up some masters players and continue to be dogshit because all they deserve is last palce

barren quest
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Titans need new supports

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Fire Roolf just doesn't cut it

next mesa
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nah I think roolf is the fs that the org deserves

noble nexus
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100%

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not the fs teru deserves tho :(

tawdry hamlet
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Funny thing lmao

tropic herald
tawdry hamlet
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Apply was just in a game with teru on lucio

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And teru was dog shit

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He kept amping out of spawn so they didn't have amp to engage with

devout path
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Boston #1

tawdry hamlet
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Teru really practicing to try and take over the support role frfr

plush grail
tropic herald
north relic
worn falcon
sullen berry
tropic herald
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@plush grail never forget

plush grail
willow drum
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Hmmmm

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Who do you guys think will win Shock v Outlaws and Shock v Paris

earnest leaf
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Shock should win both if crusty doesn't omega fucking throw on preperation

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But both of those teams face titans

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So they get to prep purely for shock

tropic herald
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paris shock is solid

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60-40

noble nexus
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the shock could realistically lose to those both tho considering how ass they've been

willow drum
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I could 100% see

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but losing to Outlaws?

noble nexus
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went to map 5 against london

tropic herald
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if shock go 0-2 thats gonna be painful

willow drum
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Like we've seen Shock v Dallas after Dallas 3-0ed them

earnest leaf
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I honestly think

tropic herald
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but we dont know how good houston is

earnest leaf
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Glads threw harder than paris played really well

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Like glads omega fucking threw

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harder than usual

willow drum
earnest leaf
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Also

noble nexus
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exactly

earnest leaf
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Shock never loses to the same team twice

noble nexus
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the shock threw

willow drum
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Yeah, I don't think Outlaws beats Shock personally

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Shock still haven't got Revenge against Outlaws yet

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Shock are OP in Revenges

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Like they showed up the dallas fuel once

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If I think Shock plays somewhat near the level they were when they 3-1d Dallas

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I could totally see them 3-1ing both teams

tropic herald
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i think shock should just not swap around their team so much

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its so bad

willow drum
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Yeah honestly

olive palm
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striker wont be there for it

willow drum
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Like the best thing they could possibly do

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is nero/glister/smurf/choi/twilight/fdgod

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like at this point we can't have both viol2t and fdgod play

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Like the shock have always won maps

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when Twilight was in

north relic
willow drum
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so I just don't get why they don't play such a crucial card

willow drum
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I think Glister is much more flexible

north relic
willow drum
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yeah

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Glister's more flexible in this meta

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however, widow maps might equal ans

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so i'm not sure

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but I pred 3-1 win againt paris

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and 3-2 win against outlaws

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prob a throw

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for my preds

fallen turret
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Outlaws could beat shock

willow drum
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but shock doesn't lose revenge matches

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and outlaws could put jake on like tank or smth

gloomy valley
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Shock good

devout path
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Shock is ok

gusty rampart
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^

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Not really a top tier team rn

forest raven
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The boys Sadge

devout path
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Boston beat shock rn

forest raven
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Quiet Boston simp

gusty rampart
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Spitfire almost beat them Sadge

devout path
forest raven
gusty rampart
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Like a better team omegalul

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One that doesn't lose a map to Titans

devout path
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3-0 Florida

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So that means titans > Florida

gusty rampart
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Shut your mouth

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Spitfire 2-3 Shock

devout path
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:)

gusty rampart
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Paris Eternal 3-1 London

earnest leaf
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I just need paris to lose to shock so luigi isn't insufferable

willow tartan
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i wish shock lost to london

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they barely clinched it out

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but it would be very funny if the winless team got a win on the back to back champs

devout path
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Luigi already has a massive ego

sullen berry
willow tartan
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shock fans are crying and selling their official overwatch league trading cards rn

gusty rampart
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I already sold my Ans body pillow

tawdry hamlet
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I want, Philly, to not do the big inconsistent next week

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pls

willow tartan
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yes

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theyre gonna lose 3-1 to shanghai

tawdry hamlet
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I am not even a philly fan I just want that roster to succeed so badly

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because it is so stacked

willow tartan
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^^

tawdry hamlet
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like in star power it is equal to shanghai and shock

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it just needs to perform

willow tartan
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actually

tawdry hamlet
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it is really only missing a star in off tank tbh

willow tartan
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id rate it higher than shock rn

tawdry hamlet
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yeah, like as of now sure, I just mean in like pure star power like it feels like a fantasy team with all the names they got on one team

willow tartan
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ikr

gusty rampart
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Fusion has a lot of potential

tawdry hamlet
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the stacked rosters are so fun, just sucks so much when they don't perform because then you either eat your words or be sadge because your team ded

gusty rampart
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Dragons just better OMEGALUL

willow tartan
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best dps lineup in the league

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like by far now

tawdry hamlet
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Shockwave is in Korea so theoretically they should have the best dps line in the league

willow tartan
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yea

forest raven
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Shockwave/Carpe/Eqo is not the best dps line up in the league lmfao

willow tartan
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rascal

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on paper they should

forest raven
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Still not the best in the league

tawdry hamlet
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Rascal, Carpe, is already top tier, then you add a high tier flex in eqo, and a really solid hitscan flex in shockwave

willow tartan
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philly just has performance anxiety or something

gusty rampart
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Fusion dominated May Melee

willow tartan
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they cant win it big where it counts

gusty rampart
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Then lost to NYXL

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Embarrassing

tawdry hamlet
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Shanghai lost to spark I do not want to hear it omegalul

gusty rampart
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We don't talk about that

tawdry hamlet
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hehe

willow tartan
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kinda excited for all stars with how many skilled players there are in the league rn

gusty rampart
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Eastern this year has been low-key underwhelming

devout path
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Ok so

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Philly entire dps line is the best overall but not the best starting line up

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Idk how to word it

tawdry hamlet
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who does have a better dps line than Fusion though, like what competes, Ans Glister Ta1yo Nero, Fleta Lip Develop Whoru, Sparkle Pine Doha, vs Carpe Rascal Eqo Shockwave. hmmm

willow tartan
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we havent seen develop or pine

devout path
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Like they have consistent top tier players for every role for every meta but I’d take dps lines like kai pelican lip fleta or even fits profit over something like carpe rascal

willow tartan
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if they can show themselves to be top tier hitscans then fusion will have competition

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in that dptm

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or well

earnest leaf
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hot take

tawdry hamlet
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that is just carpe rascal, they now have eqo and shockwave as well, so they can cover tracer and another hitscan

willow tartan
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ans in that case too

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since hes washed

earnest leaf
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Pine is rarely going to play

willow tartan
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yeah, all three teams have unproven hitscan players now

tawdry hamlet
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that isn't really hot I think, idk why they would switch it up when they have played very well thus far

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they will probably only pull it out for some maps I would assume

willow tartan
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theyll only play him if its necessary

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like they cant force a dif comp

earnest leaf
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With ans, I'd take shock's dps over most in the league

devout path
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Fusions dps line is consistently top tier and probably the best in the league for how consistently strong it is but other teams have higher peaks ig

earnest leaf
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besides shd most likely

willow tartan
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so they dont get shit on by glister on dorado again

earnest leaf
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Just for pine to get shit on by ans

tawdry hamlet
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I can't decide if replacing edison or replacing gator would be the thing that makes Atlanta break through that gatekeep ceiling

devout path
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Kai pelican fleta lip are the 2 best dps lines in the league no one can tell me otherwise

willow tartan
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masaaa

earnest leaf
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replace hawk

tawdry hamlet
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I really don't even know with atlanta because I like every player on the team but I also want them to be better lmao

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Hawk had some big moments in the june joust iirc

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but gator also did

devout path
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Also everyone is forgetting that fits profit is still a top tier dps line

tawdry hamlet
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yeah everyone forgets because seoul sucks ass

willow tartan
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top tier team if seoul decides that they want to win

earnest leaf
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yea but Seoul

tawdry hamlet
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50 percent of the time

devout path
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I’m really scared

willow tartan
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apac teams flip coins before they play matches to determine who wins and who throws

tawdry hamlet
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they ran off role for like 1 and half seasons now omegalul

gusty rampart
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Lmao Seoul is like 2nd best APAC team

willow tartan
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yes

devout path
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I have Seoul beating Shanghai now

gusty rampart
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They all suck except for SHD

willow tartan
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philly and seoul are in contention with being 2nd

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chengdu is

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a special case

earnest leaf
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Guys

devout path
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Chengdu is dumb

gusty rampart
earnest leaf
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Remember when people were saying chengdu is gonna be a top tier team this season

tawdry hamlet
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I wonder where the spark place in NA hmm

earnest leaf
devout path
willow tartan
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above mayhem

earnest leaf
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I would assume most of apac would be mid tier in NA

tawdry hamlet
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they have been far better than before Salutations

earnest leaf
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besides valiant and nyxl

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and charge honestly

devout path
willow tartan
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the teams would go up and down the NA power rankings like its snakes and ladders

gusty rampart
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Chengdu dominated May Melee qualifiers, then got into May Melee, then got shit on

forest raven
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ProFits and Lip/Fleta can play every single dps in the game and lose very little from swapping heroes around

willow tartan
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unless they magically make the NA teams inconsistent too by virtue of being near them

devout path
tawdry hamlet
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I still would rather have lip fleta tbh

willow tartan
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i really love the profit vs fleta dynamic we had going on last year

devout path
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Profit > fleta on tracer

willow tartan
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like the head to head with seoul vs shanghai

tawdry hamlet
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fits is inconsistent

willow tartan
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since that was the main competition

devout path
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But fleta > profit on everything else basically

tawdry hamlet
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except gengu

willow tartan
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what about pharah

tawdry hamlet
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and that

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pharah as well

devout path
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Ok but

tawdry hamlet
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the niche characters lmaooo

devout path
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When have they ever been played

willow tartan
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its what it takes to become a flex god

devout path
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Don’t say summer showdown last year

willow tartan
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fuck being the best at one hero

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gimme more flex gods

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theyre hype as shit

earnest leaf
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I'm predding seoul over shd

tawdry hamlet
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genji has been played a bit in apac the last few weeks actually

devout path
willow tartan
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dallas played genji a bit too

earnest leaf
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I still think shd is better

willow tartan
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to... varying degrees of success

earnest leaf
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but seoul will just choke in knockouts

tawdry hamlet
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architect Choisehwan Carpe and eileen all played genji at some point in the last month

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iirc

willow tartan
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yea

devout path
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I think seoul has stepped it up

tawdry hamlet
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teru as well

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teru genji was sickkk

willow tartan
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sparkle plaid genji

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fleta technically played genji too 😎

tawdry hamlet
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Fleta and Rascal have similar genjis, not bad, gm high ranked ladder level, but like so meh idk

willow tartan
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guxue was on genji for the all stars game

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dragon rage 💪

tawdry hamlet
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Eqo beats both rascal and fleta on genji GAMERHANDSHAKE

willow tartan
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whoru monkaS

earnest leaf
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all I know is the league is lucky nyxl killed haksal's career

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his genji was fucking nasty

devout path
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Ah yea cuz having a good genji will get you so far in owl

earnest leaf
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It literally carried paris to a stage win last season

willow tartan
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i believe he still could compete today

earnest leaf
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Haksal could 100% compete still

willow tartan
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but he gave up on it already

earnest leaf
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but he signed to nyxl and destroyed his career

willow tartan
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he retired didnt he?

devout path
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Haksal definitely can I’m just saying it’s pointless to talk about an irrelevant character

tawdry hamlet
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I agree to an extent, but genji has been relevant this season, by relevant I mean charges entire strategy was banking on kariv landing the nano on choisehwan lmao

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was really sadge to watch them fall apart the second kariv got picked

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like shit people give mandu and rio shit but honestly other than kaylee, Kariv is such a washed flex support imo. he just feels like every other flex support, but at .75 speed

tropic herald
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oh no no no

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crimzo -1000

forest raven
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What'd crimzo do

tropic herald
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dropped r word in rank

forest raven
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Moron

willow tartan
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LOL

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yo aspire streams wtf

tropic herald
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It was an 11 owl player lobby, the amount of people streaming it was too many for him to not get caught

balmy wolf
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Crimzo didn’t drop the r word no way he would do that I want proof

tropic herald
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Literally watch any of the owl players who streamed that lobby

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It was in team chat at end of Kings row game

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Crimzo was mad at the rando hog

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Because his reaction was bad

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Their Cree sounded like IM37 I think?

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Whoever it was duo w punk

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And enemy tracer is Decay

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Probably

balmy wolf
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There’s no proof

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Crimzo would never say that

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He’s a great guy

tropic herald
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Bro, literally watch the last game on Peli VOD

balmy wolf
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I have and I don’t see him using the word you are a liar

tawdry hamlet
tropic herald
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2:40:58

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Pelican VOD

balmy wolf
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I can’t see it

gusty rampart
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When was it

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Like what day

tropic herald
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It’s in team chat

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Today

gusty rampart
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This isn't gonna end well

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My guess is fined and sat out for a match like Viol2t was

willow tartan
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but wasnt it like...

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not in an OWL game?

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that wasnt broadcasted?

tropic herald
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It’s ranked and he’s using words like that, the precedent has been set players get fined for it

gusty rampart
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They don't like bad behavior outside the league

balmy wolf
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He won’t get in trouble

tawdry hamlet
gusty rampart
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I hope he does

tropic herald
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He should

willow tartan
#

lol

#

crimzo malding

gusty rampart
#

He's in trouble

#

The League doesn't take kindly to that

tropic herald
#

It’s okay to be mad but that is not the correct outlet

tawdry hamlet
#

iirc violet also told them to kill themselves not just the r word

balmy wolf
#

It’s not even that big of a deal he told some bad roadhog he’s a r word player and he was just upset at the game

tawdry hamlet
trail perch
balmy wolf
#

The r word isn’t even that bad just bad

trail perch
#

last season

tropic herald
gusty rampart
#

?

trail perch
#

Yes it is lol

tropic herald
#

You gonna tell me that huh

balmy wolf
#

My brother use to say it all the time

tawdry hamlet
#

it just hasn't been recognized as bad until far more recently Salutations

tropic herald
#

That doesn’t make it any better!???

tawdry hamlet
#

so it is seen as less significant

balmy wolf
#

For some reason our young generation thinks it’s a terrible thing to say

willow tartan
gusty rampart
#

It is

tropic herald
#

Because it is?

tawdry hamlet
#

yes Salutations

tropic herald
#

Are you gonna die on this hill?

balmy wolf
#

How is it that bad

willow tartan
#

its bad because people say it is bad

balmy wolf
#

What happened to freedom of speech

gusty rampart
#

It's sad that word has become a slur, it's to describe a mental condition and it's used in a deragatory way

tropic herald
#

Bro I’m gonna let you be educated in ModMail no point doing it here

willow tartan
#

thats how languages and taboo words work

tawdry hamlet
#

a word that is used to disparage people who are born with brain differences is not bad omegalul

gusty rampart
willow tartan
#

saying "jesus christ" was considered bad in previous years as it was using the lord's name in vain, but now the societal perception is not nearly as harmful

#

things change like that

#

and you just gotta like

#

lay low yk

tawdry hamlet
#

anyway moving on lmao omegalul I genuinely don't think the league will do anything about crimzo since it was just team chat at the end of a vod

willow tartan
#

yea

#

hell get a slap on the wrist

tawdry hamlet
#

unless someone actively like makes a twitlonger

willow tartan
#

and he'll know better not to do dumb stuff

#

who was the guy that said "big dick" during an OWL match?

tawdry hamlet
#

Lastro monkaS

willow tartan
#

yeah loll

#

still remember that

tawdry hamlet
#

That was very humorous

lime sigil
#

hydration

#

sadness

#

actually idk if he retired

#

but he's not on outlaws anymore

tawdry hamlet
#

Apply and Space have been trying to hit this for six hours and they all finally got it lmao

tropic herald
#

Who is Leviackerman

#

Also yeah that whole ordeal was something

earnest leaf
#

it's viol2t

tropic herald
#

Ok so it was Viol2t just fucking doing funny business in ranked on tank

earnest leaf
#

yes

balmy wolf
#

Disgusting by Crimzo

#

Glad he isn’t on the Dallas Fuel anymore

devout path
#

I hope crimzo gets at least a fine for that

#

That is not ok behavior

stuck radish
#

what did crimzo do

earnest leaf
#

say a nono word in ranked

#

Not the worst thing

#

But as a pro he shouldn't do it

#

I doubt he gets fined for it though

devout path
#

I think they need to fine him to make sure no one else does it

earnest leaf
#

Fine does no harm or good tbh

#

most players probably know not to say it

stuck radish
#

depends on the severity of what he said ig

#

if he said "silver3 is a good mt" he should be fined

earnest leaf
#

just the r word

#

To a ranked player who locked hog in a lobby with 10-11 owl players omegalul

#

11 owl players I think actually

stuck radish
#

honestly that ranked player knew what he was doing

#

he wasnt gonna do good on like dva or zarya when every other player is in OWL

#

so fuck it use the independent hero

earnest leaf
#

tbf he would of had to MT mirror fearless

#

who was duoed with hanbin

stuck radish
#

lmao

#

monke diff fearless

earnest leaf
#

who had aspire/decay as their dps

stuck radish
#

not hard

earnest leaf
#

and bebe/jecse as support

stuck radish
#

heres one question

#

how are players like fearless not 5k sr

#

how do they lose

earnest leaf
#

there are some ranked games that no matter what you do, you lose them

#

aka get 5 randos and queue vs 5 owl players

stuck radish
#

so are they in elo hell

#

technically

tropic herald
#

Nah

#

Just bad q rng

stuck radish
#

but like

#

they have the skill level of a 5k sr player

#

its just their teammates holding them back but for real this time

worn falcon
#

Yes

#

Or some are playing like tired or smashing their keyboard

tawdry hamlet
#

Mmm they can only duo as well, and most players even at their best at that level have like 60 percent win rate so it takes a ton of grinding

#

Hence why some owl players have peaked like 4600 while other contenders players have peaked like 4800

#

Like apply played 8 hours straight just to gain 60 Sr

#

So it takes a long ass time

forest raven
#

Most players in OWL would hit 4.8k if ranked was the only thing they played, yeah

tawdry hamlet
#

And he was literally duoing with space and getting taiyo or glister or aspire as his dps the whole time so it isn't like bad players climbing just takes so much grinding that a lot of pros simply don't have the ability or time to pass 4700 monkaS

#

Kafeeeee is toxic af he is on old and bored in eu contenders but he peaked fuckin 4894 monkaS monkaS monkaS

#

Yet he's on the worst team in eu contenders, just shows Sr isn't everything

earnest leaf
#

Most of the 4800+ peaks were a long time ago

#

during s2/s3 and what not

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah I've heard that

tawdry hamlet
#

I read the first 5k player was like 2017

forest raven
#

Evermore 6 stacked with KongDoo Panthera at 3am

willow tartan
#

you just need to play more

#

theyre not getting unwinnable games every time and everyone else in that ELO will get the same amount of unwinnable games

plush grail
#

paris > shock

#

ez clap

tribal canopy
#

Big wronh

plush grail
#

@tribal canopy''3peat incoming'' OMEGALUL

tribal canopy
#

You'll see

plush grail
#

shock losing games?

balmy wolf
#

youll see paris going 4-0

#

and losing in knockouts

plush grail
#

also just a reminder before i head off for work

#

onigod naga > kevster birdring

#

the la glads dps line is all hype

balmy wolf
#

big

#

have fun working

plush grail
#

ty babe

vagrant cargo
#

Nice bait

hot onyx
#

What bait?

#

I only see a factual statement

vagrant cargo
#

I do think onigod naga are A tier though

willow drum
#

not bait

plush light
#

Kaan dridro is A or S tier

sullen berry
raw ermine
ivory stag
#

have they said what skins are possible for summer showdown yet?

raw ermine
#

they made a poll on the OWL twitter I think

#

not sure if it's the type of skin like MM Mei or angel of death

#

but you can look there

tribal canopy
#

thats just the white/grey owl skin. the special one is gonna be lucio

balmy wolf
#

lucio sure

#

totally not hanzo

#

totally not

tribal canopy
balmy wolf
#

yeah

#

its gonna be lucio for sure

#

for sure

#

not hanzo

little tusk
willow tartan
#

eastern division OWL team signing new coaches?

#

whats new...

raw ermine
noble nexus
#

those are fucking terrifying

sullen berry
#

When your teammates go wrecking so often in your team comp

vagrant cargo
sullen berry
#

That you want a pet Hammond but got a rat because hamsters are expensive

vagrant cargo
#

Id say vestola is low A too

#

Im so happy eu players are pounding

sullen berry
#

When EU players know its their one shot

#

They will not disappoint

#

Still wondering where WhoRU and develop fit in Shanghai's roster

noble nexus
#

For games against london

#

Lmao

#

I mean lav*

sullen berry
#

They haven't needed subs, but assume that this is the most vulnerable they have looked all season even if its to replace bench god erster for the Dragons

noble nexus
#

Forgot london isn’t the apac bottom feeder anymore

sullen berry
#

Same diff

#

There are still three teams going winless until the end of ss qualifiers

vagrant cargo
#

Thats kinda crazy

sullen berry
#

People will be scared to face off all three of them, in particular london

noble nexus
#

London look ok rn

sullen berry
noble nexus
#

Maybe not good enough to win against teams that actually prepare

#

But not bad

sullen berry
#

When the pressure is stacked this tight, mistakes start to be "why didn't you at least make it 3-1 to look a little more competitive?"

#

Teams from mayhem and under that do prepare will struggle, your Boston's and Paris seem less likely to flop lately

raw ermine
#

ik this is an ad and stuff

#

but MY GOD

#

1 ms ping

#

prolly doesn't fully translate into OW

#

but man

plush grail
#

Extra fast internet so he can accept offers from other teams super fast

noble nexus
#

extra fast internet so his team can lose super fast

tawdry hamlet
#

Jeez mine peaks at like 710 with 15ms

#

Man's on zooming speeds

#

Fibre optic CRnoted

sullen berry
#

Sado feeding on 3ms ping (Impossible)

tawdry hamlet
#

Ta1yo fell off the map like 5 times in this one vid

swift moth
#

It’s how you beat LJG

#

He can’t boop u if u fall off the map first

worldly flax
#

lmao

noble nexus
#

or you just turn around and shoot at him when he runs it down mid like a goblin

raw ermine
#

shy, pelican

tawdry hamlet
#

Pelican.

#

Pelican has been far too instrumental to ignore I think, other rookies have popped off but Pelican has been simply built different

trail perch
#

Shy

#

Shy.

tawdry hamlet
#

like I would love to give it to someone like Shy but Pelican is bringing Atlanta to tourneys while the spark are just existing

trail perch
#

Spark 3-0ed shanghai

#

went 4-0

raw ermine
#

then lost

trail perch
#

And has looked nothing short of dominent

digital cloud
#

gaga or jjanggu

raw ermine
#

JJanggu did pop

trail perch
#

Would you not give Jjonak MVP cause they lost to philly?

#

Or cause they lost to london?

raw ermine
#

bunny for MVP s1

trail perch
#

Or cause they lost to LAV

tawdry hamlet
#

Spark? Dominant? they have looked good but not Dominant lmao. I just think Pelicans echo is more important than shys aim

#

if it was all about aim ans would have won

#

but alarm too stronk

#

either of them are worthy though Salutations

#

just would rather have pelican win it

#

GodsB is a free agent, but there is literally nobody besides charge or vancouver he would fit with, I wonder if he is going to do anything other than contenders

devout path
#

Better screenshot

image0.png
#

Monkey uppercut pog

raw ermine
#

mmmmm monke

plush grail
#

I'd say Kaan tbh

mortal abyss
#

I’d say pelican

noble nexus
#

shy 😩

mortal abyss
#

Hangzhou not getting to hawaii seriously hurts shy’s ROTY campaign for me

cursive oar
#

I'm a shock fan, have been since 2019, and they look terrible

Super isn't a good Reinhardt.

Glitter and Nero don't really seem to be good pick for the team as DPS.

FOOD doesn't sync like Moth did

And glister as Tracer was notably not striker.

Idk. Just feels like a weird time to be a shock fan lol.

trail perch
#

Glister is def a good pick for the team

#

everything else is correct

#

Glister is one of the best players.

noble nexus
#

nero has been playing well

#

he just doesn't sync well with super

#

and you can tell by his cracked shatter blocks

#

Super has looked worse on rein this year definitely but he's still played well

#

fdgod and viol2t together just doesn't work

mortal abyss
#

Super looking worse is 10000% a byproduct of shock looking worse

#

If your team is shite (especially your supports) there’s very little you can do as a MT To@change that

noble nexus
#

^

#

and he's been in with viol2t fdgod the entire time

#

as opposed to smurf being in with the twilight fdgod lineup

#

viol2t fdgod just doesn't work because viol2t can't feed and have his team still be healed by moth anymore

#

because fdgod feeds with him now

#

ans also is definitely rusty

#

they're also lacking a lot assistant coaches rn iirc

#

the only positive is that on paper they're stacked and they have time before the playoffs to iron out their issues

willow tartan
#

if shock plays viol2t on main support one more time im gonna actually explode

hot onyx
#

shock won’t make the knockouts

#

they get their monthly 3-0 against the best team in the league and beat outlaws but flop out because of map diff

devout path
#

Crusty is being overworked

#

Shock macro game is off

#

Losing moth has hurt the comms structure

earnest leaf
#

I fucking lost

devout path
#

The comms

#

They can’t keep up with the pace of other teams because of the comms

earnest leaf
#

Shock has all the pieces to be the best team in the league

#

just something isn't clicking

noble nexus
#

fdgod

#

lol

earnest leaf
#

It isn't only fdgod

feral zodiac
#

I think it is disorganisation in general

earnest leaf
#

Choi has been fucking off the goop way more than he should

#

So is viol2t

feral zodiac
#

I think some of them might be falling out of love with the game

bold trail
#

can anyone help me
i got this in game mod
witch you click these different coloured dots to change things but i can't left click them why?

earnest leaf
#

The most consistent players lately have been nero/smurf/twilight/super imo

bold trail
#

can anyone help me
i got this in game mod
witch you click these different coloured dots to witch things but i can't left click them why?

#

what do i click?

earnest leaf
feral zodiac
#

Twilight and smurf 100%, I haven't really paid attention to super and nero

#

But Nero did look good a few times

earnest leaf
#

Nero has looked pretty solid

#

idk why people keep shitting on him

willow tartan
#

cuz hes an easy target

#

no way shock fans can blame their championship roster 3head

tawdry hamlet
#

yes blame the white guys!

#

super nero throw

earnest leaf
#

imo choi and viol2t have been doing a little bit more trolling than they should

#

Viol2t looks way worse atm than last season

tawdry hamlet
#

Choi and Fury both notably look worse than last year imo

earnest leaf
#

Like last season it was 100% clear he was the best bapt

tawdry hamlet
#

I think it is a support line thing though

earnest leaf
#

But he doesn't look like that bapt anymore

#

I think fdgod has looked shaky at times, but overall not too bad

#

I don't think it's fully all because of the individual performances of players

#

but more so some team coordination thing

tawdry hamlet
#

Nero has performed on the echo and shit when he needed to, Idk why everyone shits on him, like that atlanta game was a clear team diff

#

like his echo in the dallas series they won was pog

earnest leaf
#

Shock just doesn't look as fast this year

#

last year they would engage and win a fight in seconds

#

You see it more often when they run dive though at least, that they can still engage and pound a team

tawdry hamlet
#

well ans and violet getting a couple picks a fight was really helpful

#

last season

#

I remember last season Viol2t would constantly get these double or triples on bap all the time

earnest leaf
#

Yea

#

And this season it looks like he got worse on bapt

tawdry hamlet
#

Viol2t on zen last season would just hold right click peak ez kill, same with iziyaki

#

shit was fun to watch

earnest leaf
#

Viol2t would take duels with fucking snipers as zen

#

and win

little tusk
#

zen isn't even that bad against snipers cuz of his spam

twin kettle
willow tartan
#

primal blade is epic

#

one of the most show off things u can do in ow

earnest leaf
#

Hardest mechanical ability in the game to master

#

and it's not even close

north relic
#

Maybe pulse bomb?

earnest leaf
#

pulse is hard but primal is a different beast

balmy wolf
#

Primal is the hardest ability in the game

#

Dragon blade is the second hardest ability in the game

earnest leaf
#

eh not really

#

mechanically blade isn't anything special, just awareness

outer fjord
#

Shock best team

trail perch
next mesa
#

Also apparently

#

Sayaplayer has an injury again

#

FUck mann

feral zodiac
#

I think shock were able to engage really fast because most of those players had been playing together for years

#

Now they need to relearn how their teammates play

balmy wolf
#

i think it was 2019 world cup where we truly saw primal blade in action

#

from guxue

gusty rampart
#

Shock is playing pretty much new people lmao

#

Ans is a little washed (fixable) and Twilight and Glister are being played more

#

Maybe Ta1yo soon Sadge

raw ermine
#

yeah I saw saya got benched on t1

#

in happy news

next mesa
#

Krystal Teru

#

Jjonak

#

Rio

raw ermine
#

molanran
teru
molfig
yakpung
jjonak
mandu

next mesa
#

Spitfire offtank

#

Forgot name

#

Oh yeah molfig

#

oh yeahh mandu

#

id replace molanran with krystal but yeah I agree with your roster

#

rather have mandu than friday

raw ermine
#

the NYXL synergy

next mesa
#

wait or do I go

#

hold on

#

Yakpung Cr0ng Wya Sparkr Teru

#

Friday

raw ermine
#

lol I just tried to make another team

#

I too wrote down sparkr teru wya friday

next mesa
#

wait not choi

#

i mean

#

wait we need choi*

#

okay how about this

#

Yakpung Choi Kyrstal

#

wait no

#

the only good player on titans is teru

#

this is troubling

keen abyss
raw ermine
#

changsik prolly would be ok if not on titans

next mesa
#

yeah true

keen abyss
#

primal and blade are both shift and left click

next mesa
#

Okay how about Changsik Cr0ng Choi Kyrstal Jjonak Friday

#

👏

keen abyss
#

blade is by no means an easy ult

next mesa
#

its way easier than primal to be fair

keen abyss
#

absolutely

raw ermine
#

choisehwan sparkr changsik crong wya friday

keen abyss
#

but if you get caught slacking for just a little bit with blade you're dead

#

and if you mess up once it can kill the ult and you

next mesa
#

Jjonak > wya for me

raw ermine
#

prolly, LAV only give us wya, mol and krystal

tawdry hamlet
#

oh yeah

#

last player can be from anyone

#

I remember now omegalul

next mesa
#

yeah but twitter said sixth guy can be anyone

tawdry hamlet
#

yes Salutations

noble nexus
#

friday and jjonak are both the same team too tho

#

also mad how none of you took the god gamer himself

#

silver3

north relic
#

Apparently striker played tracer with blink on shift and pulse bomb on right click

slow lodge
#

That's how I do

#

Also

#

What's the scenario if Paris qualify for Hawaii?

north relic
slow lodge
#

Are they even allowed to travel to Hawaii?

north relic
#

I think so

slow lodge
north relic
#

Owl can help get visas

devout path
raw ermine
#

???????????????????????????????

#

it means 1 player from each team, plus 1 player from any of those 5

#

not from any team in the league

devout path
#

Wait

#

It doesn’t say that?

raw ermine
devout path
#

Ok then

#

Uhhh

#

Yakpung crong choi krystal kellex roolf

tawdry hamlet
#

you really cheaped out on the supports omegalul

#

hmm

devout path
#

Kellex is fine

#

Finding anyone to pick from titans is omega hard

north relic
#

Do you think valiant or titans are better

noble nexus
#

Valiant are probably better

#

Titans have teru

north relic
noble nexus
#

Valiant have wya molanran sometimes and krystal

north relic
#

Unless titans get upset by dallas

devout path
#

That team is really solid

north relic
devout path
#

You need a main tank

#

And frd is the only player on titans

#

That is a viable pick because you need to have choi

#

And Friday is easily the best main support in comparison to the other teams

#

Wya is fine

#

Sparkr kinda cracked

#

Yakpung literally only good main tank

north relic
#

Rio isn’t bad

devout path
#

Yakpung only good main tank

noble nexus
#

He’s the best OT and MS out of all of the teams

#

Smh

quaint aurora
#

Isnt fearless hood

#

Good?

noble nexus
#

He’s been the best main tank this season

quaint aurora
#

Yeah he’s sick on monkey

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean if you needed to frd is passable at off tank

#

but the rest are just abysmal or just meh like linkzr dalton

devout path
#

Frd is the best logical answer

tawdry hamlet
#

you could take something different and do a double London setup but I think a double charge setup gives you the best possible players since lowkey

devout path
#

I mean

tawdry hamlet
#

crong cracked

#

and choi is just the best flex out of all the teams

#

I think

#

but the support line has to suffer so much :((

devout path
#

I think double nyxl is good

tawdry hamlet
#

yakpung jjonak isn't bad

devout path
#

Friday

tawdry hamlet
#

just because all the main tanks are ass really

#

besides yakpung

#

changsik, silver3, hadi, vomet

#

Rio

devout path
#

Yakpung Friday cuz all the other main tanks and main supports are garbage

tawdry hamlet
#

yeah

#

but then you miss out on jjonak or a nice dps like ivy sadge

#

not enough room :(((

devout path
#

Yeah

#

Too bad literally no other options

#

I mean ivy wouldnt be picked over choi anyways

tawdry hamlet
#

I think unironically out of all the hitscans across those teams sparkr not including tracer is the best

devout path
#

Sparkr is the best

#

Friday

tawdry hamlet
#

the last guy can be from any of them

devout path
#

6th is one from any of those teams

tawdry hamlet
#

of those 5 that is

devout path
#

From those teams

#

That’s not one of those teams

#

Anyone from those 5

tawdry hamlet
#

actually idk what it meant by that

#

it could be either one

devout path
tawdry hamlet
#

the tweet wasn't very clear

#

I see

devout path
#

Did you read what I linked

tawdry hamlet
#

mandu and friday are the only two main supports worth taking from those teams

devout path
#

Mandu is bad

tawdry hamlet
#

imo Mandu > Friday but they are both not very good

devout path
#

No Friday is decent

tawdry hamlet
#

thinking about how, team cc had all these amazing players and half of them are benched or unsigned now omegalul

#

tragic

devout path
#

I still think yakpung frd choi sparkr Friday wya is the best

tawdry hamlet
#

Guxue Lige could have been a top tank line if Lige mental health was ok. and 1987 is a really good flex support but chengdu is just way too stacked in that role

#

mmonk is too stronk