dallas isnt losing to fucking paris lmfao
#esports-discussion
balmy wolf
ivory stag
if thats how everyone acts to shock almost losing 1 game imma do same to other big dogs
balmy wolf
Did paris win
sadly
devout path
Luigi getting an ego now fuck
balmy wolf
if thats how everyone acts to shock almost losing 1 game imma do same to other b...
zzzzz
humble yarrow
Reverse sweep
idle beacon
dallas gonna get ganged by ShD again
mortal cipher
theyve got in two championships as chamions and runner ups
willow tartan
Paris is not going to Hawaii if they fight Dallas in the knockouts stages. 200%.
vagrant cargo
yeah thats what kicking the 2 worst players of ur team does
ivory stag
glads trash they old news
idle beacon
Luigi getting an ego now fuck
luigi??
vagrant cargo
yeah it was a rlly good series scrubby
north relic
actually toronto and boston havent lost, but they are about to play
ebon aurora
yeah thats what kicking the 2 worst players of ur team does
yeah Vestola and Dridro have been big pickups
balmy wolf
idk man
devout path
Who’s playing now
shadow dagger
no fucking way right
cursive glen
@vagrant cargo elli wasnt that bad but vestola better for srue
idle beacon
Boston Uprising
@
Florida Mayhem
vagrant cargo
elli was only mechanically decent
mortal cipher
Paris is not going to Hawaii if they fight Dallas in the knockouts stages. 200%.
given only one team figured out a counter
balmy wolf
the eu team
devout path
Boston Uprising
@
Florida Mayhem
What’s the score
vagrant cargo
every other aspect he was pretty shite
balmy wolf
What’s the score
nothing rn
north relic
What’s the score
hasnt started
ebon aurora
If paris get 2nd in seeding they would avoid Dallas if Dallas get 1st 🤔
devout path
Good good
mortal cipher
actually toronto and boston havent lost, but they are about to play
true toronto are winning that
idle beacon
2-3 paris?
vagrant cargo
If paris get 2nd in seeding they would avoid Dallas if Dallas get 1st 🤔
paris get first
humble yarrow
I think we are gonna get an EU championship win
cursive glen
@balmy wolf oh this guy is crying right now lmao. maybe accept that paris is no bottom team
vagrant cargo
its the 4-0 curse
vagrant cargo
<@456226577798135808> oh this guy is crying right now lmao. maybe accept that pa...
ppl rlly saying glads bad
idle beacon
who is whining?
vagrant cargo
when its paris good
balmy wolf
paris was never a bottom tier team
vagrant cargo
they were early on
willow tartan
Boston are gonna beat Florida
vagrant cargo
with neptuno
mortal cipher
it was a mid
balmy wolf
may melee sure
ebon aurora
paris was never a bottom tier team
pre-season people thought they were
cursive glen
yes and people still say houston is a good team as well like some people are on some serious copium
ebon aurora
and MM
balmy wolf
june joust they were still decent
mortal cipher
Boston are gonna beat Florida
i wouldnt be shocked tho
vagrant cargo
yes and people still say houston is a good team as well like some people are on ...
houston so overrated
fr
idle beacon
i am happy that paris won. a team with not one kr player, mostly eu players.
ebon aurora
i am happy that paris won. a team with not one kr player, mostly eu players.
all EU
barren marlin
Paris Just fucking reverse sweeped the glads wtf
mortal abyss
Eu stonks to the moon
balmy wolf
actually not complaining about shanghai winning
id rather have shanghai win than dallas
idle beacon
ye ur right, @ebon aurora
ebon aurora
to bad dallas and shanghai is gonna win everything though
not the worst thing in the world, to have a legendary rivalry/story through the season
dreamy jasper
what was the other reverse sweep?
mortal cipher
not the worst thing in the world, to have a legendary rivalry/story through the ...
for sure
balmy wolf
not the worst thing in the world, to have a legendary rivalry/story through the ...
true
ebon aurora
Shanghai v Dallas is this year's Shock v Titans from S2
I really hope that's the grand finals
mortal cipher
yeah it is basically
balmy wolf
atlanta still best
mortal cipher
I really hope that's the grand finals
pls
idle beacon
Shanghai v Dallas is this year's Shock v Titans from S2
is it 2 seasons ago already, when titans were so 'good' ??
i thought it was last year
mortal cipher
is it 2 seasons ago already, when titans were so 'good' ??
yeah in 2019
idle beacon
damn
mortal cipher
yeah
ebon aurora
wouldnt even be mad about another dallas v shanghai finals for ss
I mean, can you see anything else? Those 2 teams are just so far ahead of everyone else
mortal cipher
feels so long ago
willow tartan
Summer Showdown is gonna be Shanghai, Dallas, Philly and who cares random NA team.
balmy wolf
I mean, can you see anything else? Those 2 teams are just so far ahead of everyo...
nah not really
real gyro
honestly i think the biggest advantage in such a diverse meta is the ability to not need any switches, that's why Shock isnt as good this season and teams like dallas and dragons are dominant
idle beacon
I mean, can you see anything else? Those 2 teams are just so far ahead of everyo...
shanghai will gang dallas properly this time
ebon aurora
shanghai will gang dallas properly this time
not in this meta
mortal cipher
Summer Showdown is gonna be Shanghai, Dallas, Philly and who cares random NA tea...
maybe houston or toronto
balmy wolf
i can see seoul philly shanghai along with Dallas
ebon aurora
when winston is king
north relic
last year paris won ss also
idle beacon
not in this meta
and i thought we're homies.
willow tartan
Seoul philly and Shanghai can't all qualify
ebon aurora
Dallas's sombra/doom will destroy people
willow tartan
It's 2 per region
balmy wolf
every other na team just isnt that good
balmy wolf
Seoul philly and Shanghai can't all qualify
ik
ebon aurora
literally the original hackfist duo
mortal cipher
it has to be 2 na and 2 apac
real gyro
Justice gonna destroy this stage
mortal cipher
oh right justice
remote siren
Still gonna get exposed by dallas
balmy wolf
Justice gonna destroy this stage
not if they forget about decay
willow tartan
Shanhhai and Seoul I predict to be seed 1 and seed 4, Shanghai beats Seoul, philly qualifies by beating gzc/h
balmy wolf
smoked by dallas or any apac team regardless but still
mortal cipher
Shanhhai and Seoul I predict to be seed 1 and seed 4, Shanghai beats Seoul, phil...
we need philly to get in atleast
remote siren
Apac is a better region then west
mortal cipher
true
remote siren
Apac is better
balmy wolf
no
remote siren
The champion is from apac
idle beacon
omg. dallas fuel full of koreans?
balmy wolf
apac > na
remote siren
Wdym?
balmy wolf
not at all
idle beacon
even pine is in dallas? 😄
balmy wolf
name 1 good na team other than dallas
real gyro
5th in APAC would beat 5th in NA
idle beacon
dallas, na team? korean you mean
balmy wolf
we all know justice would get railed by seoul or shanghai
remote siren
5th in apac would beat 4th in na
balmy wolf
name 1 good apac team other than shanghai
void seal
paris is ez everyone now
remote siren
Fusion
balmy wolf
yeah
remote siren
Spark
balmy wolf
name 1 good apac team other than shanghai
seould chengdu pihlly
no
no
holy shit my spelling
wtf
willow tartan
we need philly to get in atleast
dragons, fusion, fuel, outlaws/glads/justice/shock (I could see any of those four qualifying)
north relic
you cant say philly without them playing
remote siren
Apac is entairtining
balmy wolf
a poopshow
mortal cipher
dragons, fusion, fuel, outlaws/glads/justice/shock (I could see any of those fou...
oh for sure as dragons and dallas are basically guarnteed at thins point
remote siren
Na is like team who shits on every else no difficulty
balmy wolf
but apac is objectively worse
idle beacon
holy shit my spelling
are you hyperventilatin? .. cool down 😛
remote siren
It is not
balmy wolf
it is
balmy wolf
are you hyperventilatin? .. cool down 😛
😐
real gyro
apac is a shitshow
The glads just got beat by paris, NA is fully shitshow
remote siren
If apac is qorse why is the campion from apac?
willow tartan
Fusion are gonna come alive in the countdown cup I can feel it
balmy wolf
The glads just got beat by paris, NA is fully shitshow
your right
remote siren
@willow tartan no they wont
wintry kraken
soloshow cast
balmy wolf
The glads just got beat by paris, NA is fully shitshow
and philly lost to nyxl whats your point
if paris goes to hawaii
its gonna be like jj
mortal cipher
Fusion are gonna come alive in the countdown cup I can feel it
i hope so
mortal abyss
Twitter
remote siren
Idk why u gotta lie
idle beacon
who tf is daan ?
balmy wolf
like jj
mortal cipher
yeah
remote siren
Glads would prob lose to spark
balmy wolf
where apac got rolled
mortal cipher
who tf is daan ?
a paris player
dark hedge
who tf is daan ?
paris support
balmy wolf
where apac got rolled
nyxl*
remote siren
Spark beats every western team
balmy wolf
nyxl 0-6
wicked pendant
JOHNNY CAST
mortal abyss
Fusion are gonna come alive in the countdown cup I can feel it
i reckon they'll come alive this stage, they have basically all their players in kr, and i feel like they'll be the team to randomly 3-0 shanghai this cycle
tawdry hamlet
Lets gooooo
remote siren
So is shock
balmy wolf
shanghai won lul
tawdry hamlet
Johnny cast!!!!
remote siren
And outluls
tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
tf you mean apac got rolled
balmy wolf
nyxl got in by luck just like atl
north relic
i reckon they'll come alive this stage, they have basically all their players in...
its the fusion paris rematch for ss
real gyro
and philly lost to nyxl whats your point
yh like i said its super competative and NYXl have good players
remote siren
And shock is a top 4 team and they 0 in playoffs
balmy wolf
yh like i said its super competative and NYXl have good players
lmao good joke
mortal abyss
its the fusion paris rematch for ss
lmao imagine
balmy wolf
keep it up mr clown
remote siren
Nyxl is full of rookies
mortal cipher
johnny casting
idle beacon
can someone please explain the difference between apac and non-apac teams? O.o
raw ermine
johnny casting pog
humble yarrow
Johnny
mortal cipher
Nyxl is full of rookies
excep[t jjonak
willow tartan
i reckon they'll come alive this stage, they have basically all their players in...
it's the pattern
remote siren
Except jj
willow tartan
Shanghai gets swept every second match every stage
remote siren
And yak
mortal cipher
i look up and see johnny casting
real gyro
lmao good joke
Damn I guess JJonak and IVY aren't good players
wicked pendant
Man, with the Paris win, I'm really hoping today is BREADSTICK DAY
humble yarrow
I wish Danny casted
north relic
Damn I guess JJonak and IVY aren't good players
ivy hasnt done well this season
balmy wolf
Damn I guess JJonak and IVY aren't good players
nyxl isnt a good team
remote siren
Flora and gwangboong?
remote siren
Bianca?
mortal abyss
reinforce casting?
mortal cipher
Shanghai gets swept every second match every stage
funny thing is ever undefeated team get knocked out of the knock outs
weak bolt
Dallas pretty much in a tier of their own atm
balmy wolf
dallas is dallas
real gyro
oh they suck as a team but they still have good players and can beat a fusion which also sucks
remote siren
No shanghai
willow tartan
funny thing is ever undefeated team get knocked out of the knock outs
4-0 is cursed
balmy wolf
shanghai is shanghai
remote siren
Is in a tier of their own
idle beacon
Man, with the Paris win, I'm really hoping today is BREADSTICK DAY
who's the underdog between florham and bosring?
remote siren
But the second best apac team would go 4 0 in na
balmy wolf
rest na > apac
mortal cipher
4-0 is cursed
oh for sure and shock apparently
balmy wolf
vancouver > philly
weak bolt
Who even is the 2nd best apac team
balmy wolf
lole
wintry kraken
reinforce casting?
yeah, bren lost his voice yesterday and they couldn't get anyone else 😄
remote siren
Like spark
dark hedge
Who even is the 2nd best apac team
isnt it like seoul
north relic
Who even is the 2nd best apac team
rn i think its seoul
remote siren
Or something
balmy wolf
any apac team would lose to na top team
willow tartan
Who even is the 2nd best apac team
Fusion
real gyro
Seoul would absolutely destroy teams like Houston and atlanta
weak bolt
You have SHD #1, LAV bottom, and everybody else is about the same lol
idle beacon
why are you people differing NA - APAC .. koreans are in almost every team. o.O
balmy wolf
besides shanghai obv
remote siren
@balmy wolf trolling
wicked pendant
who's the underdog between florham and bosring?
I think Boston would be considered the underdog, but people are sussing Mayhem after yesterday, so you're seeing some swings in favor of Boston.
mortal abyss
Who even is the 2nd best apac team
based off what we've seen probs seoul but once philly play it'll probably be them
balmy wolf
<@456226577798135808> trolling
u are
willow tartan
Rascal, Carpe, Shockwave, EQO.
balmy wolf
or not paris
remote siren
Na doesnt know how to coorindate supports
willow tartan
That shit fucks
wicked pendant
However, as Reinforce said, people betting on Boston might just have a WEAK MENTAL
balmy wolf
what about justice
weak bolt
Seoul would beat exactly 50% of NA, with no logic behind it
balmy wolf
i thought apac would be better aswell
remote siren
They would get eaten alive na
mortal abyss
Alarm Astro Tobi
balmy wolf
but they suck
idle beacon
@wicked pendanthmm ok. so i'll be neutral. dno who to root for 😄
balmy wolf
like literally watch the games
the only good na teams are dallas and justice
thats it
raw ermine
Twitter
balmy wolf
shock looks ugly so far
mortal abyss
APAC were weak last cycle apart from shanghai, weird bans for them
dark hedge
the only good na teams are dallas and justice
balmy wolf
the only good na teams are dallas and justice
my god stop trolling
remote siren
Dallas is the only team that doesnt gwy exposed
weak bolt
Imo APAC is suffering from Rein style rush metas being pretty dominant. If it swings to a Monkey/Ball style meta, APAC will probably be a lot stronger
remote siren
By apac
balmy wolf
florida lost to toronto?
mortal abyss
APAC were weak last cycle apart from shanghai, weird bans for them
so far APAC looks a tad better this cycle tbh, i dont think rush is the best comp and on monkey dva apac is just way better
balmy wolf
houston shock glads atlanta still top teams
mortal abyss
OGE BAHAHA
idle beacon
@balmy wolfso dallas fuel is an NA team, even if they're koreans only? it's about the team names .. if NA or APAC. am i getting this right, now?
balmy wolf
houston shock glads atlanta still top teams
atlanta
mortal abyss
houston shock glads atlanta still top teams
we havent seen atlanta and houston play though lmfao
balmy wolf
joke?
willow tartan
You can argue regions all you want, but apac dvas are cracked
balmy wolf
no
weak bolt
NA / Apac are the regions, not the players who are on a team...
mortal abyss
<@456226577798135808>so dallas fuel is an NA team, even if they're koreans only?...
it's because they play in the NA reigon
balmy wolf
if you think they are bad ur braindead
nyxl got in by luck which is why atlanta won 1 game
north relic
You can argue regions all you want, but apac dvas are cracked
who, other than void?
wicked pendant
OGE LMAO
ivory stag
who do we think gonnd win?
mortal abyss
NOT AGAIN OGE
balmy wolf
we havent seen atlanta and houston play though lmfao
obv
mortal abyss
BAHA
balmy wolf
philly shouldve gotten in
dark hedge
philly shouldve gotten in
fullheld by valiant
balmy wolf
fullheld by valiant <:WidowLUL:401758767655419904>
i dont know man
mortal abyss
obv
so then how can you make the conclusion that they're still top teams lol, going off what we'eve seen apac looks a tad bit better
real gyro
Shanghai absolutely exposed atlanta
plush grail
PARIS BEAT THE GLADS
weak bolt
Fusion lost that map, they can only blame themselves for not making the tourney
plush grail
GRT FUCKED MARBEL
dark hedge
if you get full held by valiant you honestly dont deserve to make it
willow tartan
Shanghai absolutely exposed atlanta
lets be real atlanta was never gonna win JJ
it was just hype
balmy wolf
if you get full held by valiant you honestly dont deserve to make it
nah man
nyxl didnt deserve it any more
wicked pendant
Big Blossom
plush grail
congrats gf diff
Imagine watching Paris win vs glads while ur gf is resting on ur chest, literal heaven
balmy wolf
apac is just bad
yeah
balmy wolf
Imagine watching Paris win vs glads while ur gf is resting on ur chest, literal ...
my man
willow tartan
of jj
weak bolt
APAC has 2 real knowns; 1) LAV lose. 2) SHD win. Everything after that is a coin flip
balmy wolf
toronto and choked to glads "Atlanta Reign" is better
mortal abyss
Imagine watching Paris win vs glads while ur gf is resting on ur chest, literal ...
king shit
balmy wolf
but anyways
north relic
did nyxl have an extremely easy schedule?
fusion valiant seoul charge
balmy wolf
if boston wins this i quit preds
wicked pendant
What is this immo field lol
balmy wolf
and ill just assume today is opposite day
willow tartan
APAC has 2 real knowns; 1) LAV lose. 2) SHD win. Everything after that is a coin...
NA has 3 real knowns.
Dallas wins.
Vancouver lose.
Shock get swept 0-3 in knockouts.
wicked pendant
BIG TURRET
mortal abyss
Turret mvp
balmy wolf
NA has 3 real knowns.
Dallas wins.
Vancouver lose.
Shock get swept 0-3 in knocko...
vancouver and london lose
plush grail
Paris fans stay winning
dark hedge
did nyxl have an extremely easy schedule?
philly had a easy schedule too, they had hunters nyxl charge valiant
wicked pendant
Holy fuck this turret lol
north relic
valentine with the big brain play making
balmy wolf
philly had a easy schedule too, they had hunters nyxl charge valiant
ok but its common sense that philly shouldve gotten in instead of nyxl
right?
weak bolt
My hope that OGE just needed a Korean team was so wrong, he just isn't as good as he has been hyped
wicked pendant
JUNKRAT SIGHTING
dark hedge
ok but its common sense that philly shouldve gotten in instead of nyxl
yea but like its their fault that they choked
wicked pendant
The heck was Faith trying there lol
dark hedge
willow tartan
turret POTM
balmy wolf
atlanta swept boston and shock
got railed by shanghai next
wasnt it twice?
or just once
idle beacon
whats this huge debate here?
dark hedge
what happened to florida man
tawdry hamlet
Turret skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane.They need to check it pc and game..Maybe it not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen.
balmy wolf
were just gonna see when atl plays
dark hedge
i thought they were good
weak bolt
ATL probably struggle again this stage as Pelican can't carry on Echo
balmy wolf
im not expecting them to do anything
dark hedge
or at least decent
balmy wolf
before shanghai beat dallas
weak bolt
Mayhem on paper should be good, but they just seem to be struggling
balmy wolf
do you expect any other team to beat shanghai or what
north relic
what happened to florida man
turret
balmy wolf
ok nvm they're doing stuff now
tawdry hamlet
so is punk dva really better than gbs, because they seem deadset to run punk dva gbs sigma zarya
north relic
so is punk dva really better than gbs, because they seem deadset to run punk dva...
doesnt gbs have a really high amount of deaths on dva
willow tartan
I hope Florida loses because they're running Lucio Moira
balmy wolf
move along
im guess youre just malding after the reverse sweep
happens
no
shit gets emotional
we were talking about jj
yeah
and you think apac was better?
yes
they are
in rush meta
balmy wolf
apac cant play rush
raw ermine
balmy wolf
literally
mortal abyss
Twitter
idle beacon
this na / apac blabla confuses me so much ..
wintry kraken
https://tenor.com/view/hammer-gif-11012754
so like 90% of ladder crees 😄
feral zodiac
do you expect any other team to beat shanghai or what
Chengdu did
balmy wolf
this na / apac blabla confuses me so much ..
all you need to know is that good apac teams will roll majority of na any day of the week
feral zodiac
Ez
balmy wolf
Chengdu did
🥲
balmy wolf
Chengdu did
lol good point les go
wicked pendant
BIG SHATTER
gilded carbon
bqb more like
no emp
balmy wolf
ye
feral zodiac
Stand1 stopped being bad1
wicked pendant
How did IM37 not die there
tropic herald
@plush grail your team is going to get the 4-0 curse
plush grail
<@!196967745877704705> your team is going to get the 4-0 curse
wdym
feral zodiac
Did paris beat glads?
fast tusk
atltanta is a good team
balmy wolf
if paris do get in im assuming it would be like jj
worn falcon
what a day
balmy wolf
except they wont win the first game
frank torrent
OGE is getting MTD'd by Stand1
worn falcon
uprising beating mayhem
frank torrent
the fuck
real gyro
Considering both Shanghai And dallas used dive comps i would just say APAC has more meta awareness
wicked pendant
Man
feral zodiac
Did paris beat glads
balmy wolf
why is florida losing
balmy wolf
Considering both Shanghai And dallas used dive comps i would just say APAC has m...
dive comps where???
wicked pendant
This is just fueling my desire to see a Vancouver Titans win
worn falcon
Did paris beat glads
yes
worn falcon
uprising > paris > london > shock
plush grail
They face shock and Titans next week
on paper we should be able to beat shock, and titans is ez clap for paris
balmy wolf
who do u guys think are making summer showdown
real gyro
dive comps where???
in the finals, may melee was dive and june joust was rush/dive hybrid
balmy wolf
i need to know
feral zodiac
who do u guys think are making summer showdown
Dallas, shanghai and literally could be anyone else
wicked pendant
Yeah, only Dallas and Shanghai are safe bets.
devout path
Valentine turret so hot
real gyro
Dallas, Seoul, Shanghai and justice probably
devout path
😍
balmy wolf
in the finals, may melee was dive and june joust was rush/dive hybrid
yeah wheres the beta meta awareness
na played dive in mm
devout path
Most turret kills in an owl game istg
balmy wolf
rush on rush maps
worldly flax
mvp
wicked pendant
He got two more after that
balmy wolf
apac forced dive on rush maps
balmy wolf
Dallas, Seoul, Shanghai and justice probably
thats probs right
devout path
He got a 5k
balmy wolf
cause they cant play rush
either justice shock or
uh
random NA team thats not shit
real gyro
They can play double sheild and double bubble as well as dive
and seoul favour the rush when they can
balmy wolf
He got a 5k
turret carrying shit player :))
devout path
turret carrying shit player :))
Best junkrat in the league
real gyro
best player in the league according to IBM
balmy wolf
Best junkrat in the league
he is
jsilly diff
if boston wins
ill just say that vancouver beats toronto
dark hedge
so is london and paris still bottom 3
balmy wolf
Yes
real gyro
Paris isnt bottom 3
dark hedge
also wait toronto is still playing aspire right
wicked pendant
ill just say that vancouver beats toronto
Toronto beat Mayhem yesterday
Maybe Mayhem just on the way down, you know?
dark hedge
wasnt he on like a short term contract
wicked pendant
Although I do want to see Titans win
supple prism
bottom 3 is titans, london, valiant
ivory stag
torb league skin when?
little tusk
Paris woooooooooh
dark hedge
bottom 3 is titans, london, valiant
wb in na
wicked pendant
BQB was so far out of position for that engage
dark hedge
paris still 3rd?
supple prism
would technically be boston
but they arent really in the same pool as london and titans
void seal
paris king
supple prism
its such a big gap that you mind as well not pick a 3rd
wicked pendant
Get it together, BQB lol
feral zodiac
Right now 3rd worst is shock lol
real gyro
no way
supple prism
the middle group is just so close together this season that you cant reliably pick a 3rd at any given time
real gyro
Its probably florida or defiant
wicked pendant
HOW DID PUNK FIND THOSE TWO
balmy wolf
Although I *do* want to see Titans win
linkzr dps diff aspire and heesu
tawdry hamlet
this season really just goes shanghai dallas ---- The middle----- london titans valiant
feral zodiac
U suggested defiant as 3rd worst
raw ermine
cream oof
supple prism
the middle just keeps swapping around
feral zodiac
I think that fusion have the potential to be up there with dallas/shanghai
mortal cipher
this season really just goes shanghai dallas ---- The middle----- london titans ...
even london looks good
wicked pendant
That middle swapping around a lot makes for great entertainment, until you remember that Dallas are just sitting pretty up top
feral zodiac
even london looks good
Recently
tawdry hamlet
yeah they have the potential for sure they totally would be up there for me if they didn't lose things they easily could have won
mortal cipher
yeah
supple prism
does london look good or is the teams looking bad against them for the moment?
mortal cipher
it was like an inch from winning
tawdry hamlet
like they need to be slightly more consistent and I would put them up there as guranteed top 3-4
feral zodiac
On paper I think fusion are equal to dallas and shanghai
real gyro
lmao
feral zodiac
In practise not so much
mortal cipher
does london look good or is the teams looking bad against them for the moment?
well they about beat shock so
tawdry hamlet
on paper they have the 3rd best roster in the world imo
feral zodiac
does london look good or is the teams looking bad against them for the moment?
London had some very good moments against shock
mortal cipher
whos the 3rd then
feral zodiac
Sparkr was a gamechanger for them
wicked pendant
Fucking Valentine Turret lmao
feral zodiac
On paper???
real gyro
On paper the only thing fusion have equal to shanghai is support
supple prism
and shock has a lot of bad yet still won
feral zodiac
O wait ye they have ans now
tawdry hamlet
on paper as in the roster is stacked so they should easily win a lot of games but then in practice they don't or are inconsistent ie philly 
feral zodiac
In practise they feed
wicked pendant
Man, I love Flux combos.
feral zodiac
And are disorganised
feral zodiac
Like, if shock were just a little bit more organised they would stomp rather than be close
But they aren't
tawdry hamlet
I still maintain that despite recent events the 4 best rosters in the world are philly shock dallas shanghai
wicked pendant
How the fuck did Boston lose that
feral zodiac
Also chengdu kinda fell off as the meta started changing
wicked pendant
Stand1 why
void seal
rein noob 😦
mortal cipher
oop
wicked pendant
Look at all that free cart movement
void seal
yep no contest
wicked pendant
STAND1 GETTIN' MTD'd
tawdry hamlet
no surprise
although oge on the glads last year made me kind of forget
that he is better than average
tbh that glads team last year wasn't even an awful roster for rush, big goose is epic lmaoo
void seal
where are dallas and houston ?
void seal
plz
raw ermine
not playing this week
mortal cipher
next week
void seal
ah ok ty
wicked pendant
It's over
raw ermine
L
mortal cipher
was that c9
real gyro
yep
mortal cipher
oop
dreamy jasper
sideshow spitting facts right there
plush grail
when you thought your team was finally top tier but u lose to a team of european boys
idle beacon
can people stop acting like eu players suck diq?
plush grail
can people stop acting like eu players suck diq?
im joking, but still
la glads has several top tier players on huge contracts
balmy wolf
can people stop acting like eu players suck diq?
just london
mortal cipher
can people stop acting like eu players suck diq?
ig its just compared kr its hard
wicked pendant
AW Valentine fucked up the wall
plush grail
paris is a team of europe boys on 50k contracts
noble nexus
Paris has a coach
wicked pendant
DRAW
mortal cipher
draw
noble nexus
Unfortunate really
idle beacon
nice boston
balmy wolf
floribruh
weak bolt
This could be a 7 mapper
idle beacon
ig its just compared kr its hard
i didnt understand this at all. what? 😛
tawdry hamlet
Boston too strong 
Korea as a region is far stronger
so by comparison
eu looks bad
mortal cipher
i didnt understand this at all. what? 😛
compared to koreans they arent as good
idle beacon
let's leave koreans out of this. (op'd players anyhow) .. NA vs EU ..
tawdry hamlet
also the best eu tier 2 team almost got beat by avoided, and then went on to go 0-9 in owl and at the beginning of the season kevster and paris both looked shaky so big eu bias formed 
mortal cipher
not that they arent just compared to asia they dont look as good
idle beacon
and btw, when did oge leave dallas?
weak bolt
Trying to say if EU or NA is better is just dumb. There is literally 0 way of comparing them unless we get some form of show match
devout path
Boston 3-0 this
mortal cipher
upset i swear
feral zodiac
Trying to say if EU or NA is better is just dumb. There is literally 0 way of co...
Hurricane vs Tornado and Oddesey vs a team I forgot
devout path
Hurricane vs Tornado and Oddesey vs a team I forgot
I think also hurricane
feral zodiac
Obey alliance
weak bolt
So you're comparing the regions based on the Tier 2 scene
devout path
If you want to compare at the owl scene
devout path
Literally
weak bolt
Exactly my point, you can't really do a comparison
devout path
Paris is the Eu super team
feral zodiac
You can compare how the players have performed
weak bolt
If we're being pedantic, more EU talent made it to OWL this year then NA from Tier 2
devout path
Exactly my point, you can't really do a comparison
Ow World Cup
remote siren
Do people actually think paris has a chance against shock?
feral zodiac
Ow World Cup
NA is far less split player wise than EU in the world cup
weak bolt
Exactly. NA is like 2 countries, vs EU which is probably 10+ at least
Make your best NA roster, and your best EU roster, and see which you trust most
feral zodiac
EU has like 40+ countries lol
devout path
I mean
devout path
Why does it matter
weak bolt
I know 40+, but most of them don't have OWL prescence
devout path
We will all bow down to our korean overlords
feral zodiac
We will all bow down to our korean overlords
Lost to America omegalul
plush grail
We will all bow down to our korean overlords
stfu jerry simp
devout path
stfu jerry simp
Me? Jerry simp? Lol
mortal cipher
Lost to America omegalul
didnt they win thr last owwc
feral zodiac
No
mortal cipher
who won the last wc
feral zodiac
So na better than Eu
That is like saying NA > EU at football because Mexico beat Germany
idle beacon
when was that?
feral zodiac
2018
idle beacon
didnt watch
feral zodiac
World cup group stage
idle beacon
but claiming european football teams are > * .. is also dumb
mortal cipher
they won in 2014
idle beacon
löw screwed up back then
feral zodiac
they won in 2014
Yes
feral zodiac
Indeed
wicked pendant
This is some good overwatch
mortal cipher
where boston is actually good
idle beacon
lol gangnamjin whinin' in chat 😄
mortal cipher
lel
barren quest
Why is Boston running rush here
feral zodiac
Because they are boston
idle beacon
sym in attack? lol
raw ermine
?
wicked pendant
They needed the Sym
mortal cipher
fr
idle beacon
fr?
mortal cipher
for real
ivory stag
does mayhem have anyone half decent at rein?
gilded carbon
how they making this work with no speedy phrog?
ivory stag
they dont
mortal cipher
honestly
idle beacon
come on, florham. get us to a 5er
ivory stag
bob such a shit ult in higher tier games unless its 2cp
idle beacon
GOGO HAYEM
mortal cipher
did you pred florida
idle beacon
i want mayhem to take this map, so we see some more intense OWL gaming 🙂
mortal cipher
foir sure
idle beacon
some more balanced, intense owl
wicked pendant
This some good Overwatch
ivory stag
they need a rein against this or mayhem gonna lose
balmy wolf
i know florida isnt losing to fucking boston
mortal cipher
if they do tho
wintry kraken
i know florida isnt losing to fucking boston
well, it is at least Boston. Imagine losing to Valiant
idle beacon
how is this not over yet?
bronze turtle
i know florida isnt losing to fucking boston
shock almost lost to london, Gladiators lost to Paris anything is possible at this point
balmy wolf
shock almost lost to london, Gladiators lost to Paris anything is possible at th...
true
wintry kraken
bostom bottom 3 team
Valiant bottom -1 team 😄
mortal cipher
valiant is the worsett
dreamy jasper
shock almost lost to london, Gladiators lost to Paris anything is possible at th...
Those were very interesting games
wintry kraken
well, in season standings they are next to each other
wicked pendant
I really want to see a Vancouver win
wintry kraken
also "bottom 3" team. In season standings, Florida is no 9, Boston is no 10 on west 😄
idle beacon
is boston wins
what?
mortal cipher
at this point if london can make the shock sweatnten anything is possible
idle beacon
true
earnest leaf
I will say
balmy wolf
can dallas please play already
earnest leaf
If there was a time for london to do it, was this week
balmy wolf
standings are to cursed
mortal cipher
can dallas please play already
next week
idle beacon
i mean, paris gang swept glads. so hey
balmy wolf
i mean, paris gang swept glads. so hey
they wont go far in summer showdown (if they make it)
wintry kraken
btw nice delay, Toronto game is already nearly 30 minutes late 😄
earnest leaf
Molf1g was fucking popping
idle beacon
they wont go far in summer showdown (if they make it)
maybe not this season, but if they keep it up, they might make it far next season
dreamy jasper
Since shock just had so many changes
Glisters interview hinted at alot of communication issues, particularly when super and fdgod were playing. cause when smurf was on they were so dominant
earnest leaf
Yea
They probabaly are sorting out internal issues
Losing a coach and a star player in one week is a lot
dreamy jasper
super didnt want to speak on it on stream either
earnest leaf
Then having to integrate glister into striker's role
dreamy jasper
must be serious enough
idle beacon
those 2 moderators aren't standing next to eachother, right?
balmy wolf
vs glads shock won when they ran fdgod super
dreamy jasper
vs glads shock won when they ran fdgod super
Im talking about London
mortal cipher
well they about lost so id say so
dreamy jasper
Hadi too scary for super
ivory stag
i hope torb becomes meta
earnest leaf
vs glads shock won when they ran fdgod super
Tbf they ran ans with the dive stuff , and nero yesterday instead
mortal cipher
lol
ivory stag
and gets league skin'
earnest leaf
I like full korean/nero a lot for shock
mortal cipher
torb owl skin
idle beacon
i hope torb becomes meta
please not. it's a shit hero
ivory stag
please not. it's a shit hero
best meme hero
idle beacon
pff
dreamy jasper
I like full korean/nero a lot for shock
Agreed. Its a shame they don't play twilight/Viol2t more
idle beacon
i hope sym becomes meta
earnest leaf
Twilight just fucks so hard
dreamy jasper
The bionade on eichenwalde was so good
ivory stag
i hope sym becomes meta
that be fine too she is fun
tropic herald
tropic herald
None of my preds are going to be right today except Toronto
mortal cipher
shock are slowly dropping
dreamy jasper
I will keep being their fan till then end of owl
mortal cipher
yeah
dreamy jasper
sinatraa
mortal cipher
oh right
tawdry hamlet
dreamy jasper
his zarya fucked
feral zodiac
I think shock still have the pieces
dreamy jasper
They do
feral zodiac
Just need something to make it click again
mortal cipher
just not as much
feral zodiac
S3 shock was nuts
dreamy jasper
its just hard when competition is so high now
feral zodiac
Nah
idle beacon
sin left OWL because he got bored of the goats crap, right?
dreamy jasper
There was a rumour going around saying that they dont practice as hard for "weaker teams"
feral zodiac
He left because he didn't enjoy the game anymore
mortal cipher
There was a rumour going around saying that they dont practice as hard for "weak...
would make sense seeing how theyve been playing
idle beacon
oh ok
idle beacon
oge = tank versoin of fdgod
is that positive or negative?
cuz what i see of oge isn't anything positive
ivory stag
he really do be dying first every fight
dreamy jasper
would make sense seeing how theyve been playing
Yeah, they have had such a massive team change its crazy
mortal cipher
Yeah, they have had such a massive team change its crazy
they lost striker even with striker it was looking rough
dreamy jasper
Striker did say he wasnt performing as well recently cause the team knew he was leaving
feral zodiac
Junkbuck sadge
idle beacon
wait, striker retired aswell????
feral zodiac
I wonder if striker would have stayed if shock did well
dreamy jasper
yeah
mortal cipher
Striker did say he wasnt performing as well recently cause the team knew he was ...
the team he knew???
yeah befote the fitst game
idle beacon
why?
dreamy jasper
wot did he mean by that
Just like mental change and stuff. It was harder for him to put as much effort in as usual
mortal cipher
Just like mental change and stuff. It was harder for him to put as much effort i...
ah i seee
frank torrent
sin left OWL because he got bored of the goats crap, right?
He left because Valorant gave him a fat fucking check
180k IIRC
mortal cipher
that too
frank torrent
All upfront
frank torrent
And also because he was getting handsy with fans again
idle beacon
or mental health issues because of the 180k ? 😄
what do you mean with 'getting handsy with fans again' ???
what did i miss?
frank torrent
And right after he leaves he comes out with a bunch of fabricated bullshit about Asian racism in the League
tawdry hamlet
And also because he was getting handsy with fans again
Tf you talking about? 
mortal cipher
the allagations
frank torrent
Tf you talking about? <:red:551293724143910912>
He got MeToo'd twice
The second time might have not been BS
mortal cipher
its a org
tawdry hamlet
I'm aware, I just don't recall the first time
feral zodiac
Allegations of sexual abuse came out
mortal cipher
yeah
feral zodiac
It's been quiet about those though
mortal cipher
i havent checked since its been going into investigation
idle beacon
striker and sexual abuse?
feral zodiac
No
mortal cipher
nei
feral zodiac
Sinatraa
mortal cipher
sin
idle beacon
oh, i thought we're still talkin about striker
feral zodiac
I think it's being settled behind the scenes
feral zodiac
I do feel kind of bad for sinatraa though
mortal cipher
it was a bunch of not matching stuff
frank torrent
He shit on everyone for PR the moment he got out
idle beacon
ok so striker left because of health issues?
feral zodiac
He's been thrown under the bus before anythings been dealt with legally
mortal cipher
he was originally mega toxic
feral zodiac
ok so striker left because of health issues?
Seems so
mortal cipher
iirc he first played csgo
feral zodiac
I think there were rumours of military service in korea
Since that's mandatory
For 2 years
mortal cipher
yeah that too
frank torrent
And then he went on that interview and claimed the League has an Asian racism problem, which is bullshit
feral zodiac
And it's usually encouraged for people to do it in their early-mid 20s
mortal cipher
it says 18 month
feral zodiac
Unknown
mortal cipher
unless tis is wrong
mortal cipher
depends the brancg
frank torrent
Can we just talk for a minute about how fucking cracked Gargoyle is on Sig
mortal cipher
depending the branch its different
idle beacon
@dawn runewhere else? not on this discord server at all?
frank torrent
Like, OGE is getting MTD'd hard rn but Garg is shutting down half of Boston
dawn rune
nope!
mortal cipher
it think at minimal 2 years
ivory stag
mayhem dont deserve to win at this point
frank torrent
like why is nobody suprised rn that Mayhem might get 3-0'd?
frank torrent
Wasn't Uprising bottom of the damned barrel during May?
feral zodiac
No
mortal cipher
its says all men are required 20 months
frank torrent
Or is this weekend just David V Goliath in general
feral zodiac
Just under 2 years then
mortal cipher
yeah
feral zodiac
Or is this weekend just David V Goliath in general
All middle of the pack teams are really close
mortal cipher
that was under a BTS thingy
feral zodiac
Shock vs london was the only true suprise imo
idle beacon
close 😄
mortal cipher
Shock vs london was the only true suprise imo
fr
frank torrent
Weird hearing Boston be described as middle after all the shit they got in May
mortal cipher
yeah
feral zodiac
Vancouver and London were much worse in may
frank torrent
And both are still winless so 
mortal cipher
oh for sure they are
mortal cipher
not as much as valiant tho
feral zodiac
True
mortal cipher
valiant is below 0
feral zodiac
Silver3 is so bad
frank torrent
MTD
ivory stag
oge not know how to live?
bronze turtle
I want to see valiant vs vancover
mortal cipher
ig not
frank torrent
actual MTD at this point
bronze turtle
but we will never see it
feral zodiac
Oge is going in at really weird times
mortal cipher
I want to see valiant vs vancover
sadly not possible
bronze turtle
cause neither will make it to a tournament
mortal cipher
yep and both in different regions
ivory stag
double draw?
wintry kraken
imagine being ready on time as Defiant/Titans player 😄
frank torrent
MAP SEVEN BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
feral zodiac
Confirmed that bqb was the linchpin for mayhem
mortal cipher
this just shows prepare for every team
feral zodiac
Also shows how good the league has become
mortal cipher
yeah for real
ivory stag
oge lmaoooo
mortal cipher
where its not just shock anymore
feral zodiac
Two years ago these would be considered top 4/5 teams
bronze turtle
I got today right
bronze turtle
I predicted Paris would win and same with boston
idle beacon
DAYUM
weak bolt
Boston > Mayhem
mortal cipher
I predicted Paris would win and same with boston
your a genius
balmy wolf
vancouver beats toronto 3-1
mortal cipher
doubt it
mortal cipher
vancouver is valiant level
devout path
Boston finally getting up to their potential
weak bolt
Titans going to win in map 5 with a 6 man boop and get so many breadsticks
barren quest
Battle of Canada next
bronze turtle
your a genius
I'm voting against the teams I don't like aka gladiators and Florida
supple prism
think this puts Boston at 7th currently
raw ermine
ffs I am 0-2
mortal cipher
I'm voting against the teams I don't like aka gladiators and Florida
i see
weak bolt
5-4 record for Boston is pretty good honestly
bronze turtle
I think both are way to over rated
supple prism
watch Titans beat Defiant
mortal cipher
ffs I am 0-2
same
idle beacon
I predicted Paris would win and same with boston
bosing vs florham was very equal .. could've end the other way. but paris vs glads was a real surprise
ivory stag
I would laugh so hard if titans 3-0
balmy wolf
I think both are way to over rated
lol no they arent
mortal cipher
I think both are way to over rated
shock
balmy wolf
both good teams
devout path
5-4 record for Boston is pretty good honestly
Boston are finally getting to the potential they had
ivory stag
i feel like so many ppl hate shock only cause its the cool thing to do lmao
weak bolt
Mayhem need to sub Kuki in for OGE at this rate
mortal cipher
oh fr
bronze turtle
lol no they arent
Well imo they are and with today you can definitely not convince me otherwise xD
feral zodiac
I think this game could easily go either way on another day
mortal cipher
i feel like so many ppl hate shock only cause its the cool thing to do lmao
thats some for sure
mortal cipher
shock I'm fine with
ah i see
devout path
Like stand1 is playing much much better
bronze turtle
besides fave team is paris
balmy wolf
Well imo they are and with today you can definitely not convince me otherwise xD
at the end of the day it doesnt matter
shanghai vs dallas finals
devout path
Valentine almost up to the expectations at the beginning of the season
weak bolt
Most shock fans started following them mid way through S2, many of them can't even name any of the S1 squad
devout path
Im37 stepping up
bronze turtle
at the end of the day it doesnt matter
lol yeah
devout path
Faith getting up to the potential that he had at the beginning of the season
Everyone is starting to click
feral zodiac
Don't forget OGE threw