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leaden fable
ivory stag
wasted ult by daltonm
raw ermine
fast tusk
super bald
next mesa
Woah
fast tusk
also colourhex
tawdry hamlet
it is happening
holy fuck he got the manbun and the full beard
colorhexed time to shine
tawdry hamlet
although after watching him in stream and how he tries to shotcall I have no idea how he would even mesh with korean team
cursive glen
the biggest diff this game is main tank so far tho
no idea what changsik is doin
except feed
tawdry hamlet
got to be depressing losing to both the colorhex and punk lineups
if boston doesn't meme and play fusions next map
cursive glen
punk wasnt the problem tho he played well honestly
raw ermine
omg chex
candid vine
they literally get like 2 entry frags and still lose the fight lol
ivory stag
is fire related to fdgod ? looks like a walmart brand scuffed younger brother lol
digital cloud
Did Shock lose to London
I am seeing stuff that suggests that rn and it’s hilarious
tropic herald
Did Shock lose to London
the scoreline says shock won, but london were the real winners
ivory stag
the amount of mistakes made by hadi that they didn't capitalize off of that then turned on them was ridiculous
tropic herald
like on the last point
digital cloud
Lol
tropic herald
of map 5
chilly jolt
🥱verewatch
digital cloud
Imagine almost losing to London as Shock
chilly jolt
shush
tropic herald
hadi pinned over the gap onto point and lived
mortal cipher
Imagine almost losing to London as Shock
id only imagine that back in 2018
digital cloud
Must have been painful to watch
balmy wolf
j
mortal cipher
k
frank torrent
Defiant looked good today tbh
tropic herald
that is not why mayhem lost that series
it is simply bc when ur gameplan is yaki go kill and the enemy team know how to play the game
ez
hollow river
what does breadsticks stand for ?
tropic herald
its a food
hollow river
even in this context ?
tropic herald
yes
hollow river
so u go to pizza hut and they give u free breadsticks?
tropic herald
if you live in western canada
mortal cipher
best tracer in the world is not comfortable on tracer
not best tracer in the world
tropic herald
if not yaki who is the best
digital cloud
Striker lol
tropic herald
striker retired
mortal cipher
striker ( im aware he retired ) unless were doing not retired only
digital cloud
How is that a question
mortal cipher
exactly
mortal cipher
yeah just not proffessionally
tropic herald
why would we count a player that doesnt play owl
mortal cipher
becasue he just recently stopped
digital cloud
Can we count contenders?
ivory stag
what do we think next league skin will be?
digital cloud
Can we count people that literally just stopped and presumably still are the best?
tropic herald
no, they dont play the game professionally
mortal cipher
what do we think next league skin will be?
well the lucio pred broke the theory which it was dps legendary skin with owl support skin so
hollow river
if you live in western canada
maybe in 2 years or so 😉
digital cloud
so striker just magically isn't better than yaki because he stopped playing
tropic herald
ok but why would we ever talk about retired players in this contexzt
cursive glen
there is just no way changsik was the best available option
digital cloud
because striker is the best?
mortal cipher
yeah
north relic
there is just no way changsik was the best available option
No one wants to join Titans probably
tawdry hamlet
yes striker is best in the world but when referring to best in the world in this context we were referring to active players
mortal cipher
yes striker is best in the world but when referring to best in the world in this...
i see
cursive glen
if im a t2 player i would take any owl team
digital cloud
I mean, if it was a few months later I could see why it would be entirely irrelevant
mortal cipher
my bad
digital cloud
but the man just left
north relic
if im a t2 player i would take any owl team
Well if you are good in contenders you look a lot better than just getting farmed on titans
mortal cipher
but i get it
tropic herald
striker very likely is not playing another game this season
mortal cipher
yeah this another rip
tropic herald
he just isnt relevant
cursive glen
Well if you are good in contenders you look a lot better than just getting farme...
but if youre in owl you can live off of it + i think titans could beat some teams if they didnt have shredlock and now changsik running it down
mortal cipher
he just isnt relevant
well he retires so its 100% hes not
mortal cipher
striker very likely is not playing another game this season
100%
tropic herald
it should be noted that retiring from owl is a little diff from normal retire
mortal cipher
yeah true
tropic herald
sometimes ppl just unretire
mortal cipher
like Jake and Ans
upper niche
We are happy to claim a Kiwi as our own when it benefits us, but don't for a second doubt that when there's a sheep joke to be made at their expense, we'll take it.
mortal cipher
are you an aussie
upper niche
What gave it away? 😄
holy crap Josh. no, we do not have Hippos in Australia, that's Africa.
mortal cipher
aww the fact that youll make fun of any kiwi given a chance
mortal cipher
holy crap Josh. no, we do not have Hippos in Australia, that's Africa.
did he just ask that
willow tartan
myungbong trying to copy izayaki
balmy wolf
canada starving
dusty hound
no breadsticks sadge
willow tartan
L
north relic
Who won
mortal cipher
rip the breadsticks
frank torrent
All the breadsticks in the world won't save you from the MTD
unreal raven
breadsticks CHAOS
dusty hound
uprising
willow tartan
stand1 and punk are sexy
dusty hound
3-1
mortal cipher
London looks more likely for a win
north relic
They played punk instead of gaebullssi?
willow tartan
ye
dusty hound
yes sir
willow tartan
deserved
mortal cipher
London won at the end but Shock just won the game
frank torrent
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
I seem to remember QUITE A FEW people screaming to let Stand1 go
mortal cipher
the map scores showed that
mortal cipher
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
I seem to remember QUITE A FEW people screaming t...
lel
frank torrent
He admittedly is a bit of a Rein onetrick
mortal cipher
is he
frank torrent
But if Chipsa can get signed Stand1 has a place
mortal cipher
wasnt chipsa an embaressment
frank torrent
more or less
dusty hound
But if Chipsa can get signed Stand1 has a place
twilight is a one trick as well
tawdry hamlet
Stand1 is a bottom tier main tank 
he only got player of the match because he played Vancouver
frank torrent
dude had a horrible mindset for tourneys
mortal cipher
i remember he played one game for Philly and it went bad
frank torrent
Turns out streamers aren't particularly good at following someone else's orders
who would have thought
tawdry hamlet
Twilight has all the other flex heroes he just only plays ana for shock because violet exists, and chipsa was a meme pickup to mooch free fans they never had real intentions to play him seriously
willow tartan
Stand1 is a bottom tier main tank <a:CRnoted:824781400636784691> he only got pla...
stand1 wasnt bad last year- this year on the other hand. lots of good main tanks
frank torrent
Also his brain turns off at the sight of Widow
tawdry hamlet
Stand1 last year wasnt even that great Shanghai was just so far ahead it didn't matter
mortal cipher
Turns out streamers aren't particularly good at following someone else's orders
he only played doom
didnt xqc teach them anything
tawdry hamlet
He only plays doom but the signing was mostly a publicity and fans thing. Chipsa at his peak wasn't owl ready
willow tartan
xqc wasnt bad tho
mortal cipher
He only plays doom but the signing was mostly a publicity and fans thing. Chipsa...
oh defo nei
mortal cipher
the internet gen
dusty hound
in case of a doomfist meta
i can assure you eqo could play the doom better than chipsa he is way better in every single way, chipsa was a meme
upper niche
" its insulting "
If someone called someone from Korea "Chinese" they'd say the same and everyone would nod and agree, don't see why it should be any difference for Aus vs NZ.
frank torrent
I thought xQc was let go for hurling slurs at casters
tawdry hamlet
upper niche
xQc was fined multiple times, but my understanding was that he left of his own accord. But he wasn't far off being sacked.
mortal cipher
If someone called someone from Korea "Chinese" they'd say the same and everyone ...
oh i agree i know some of the smae
upper niche
xQc, Taimou and one other player, can't recall who, all racked up a lot of fines for stuff that wasn't appropriate.
mortal cipher
I thought xQc was let go for hurling slurs at casters
and many other toxic things
upper niche
yeah, xqc is generally not pleasant.
mortal cipher
oh most definetly
earnest leaf
He was initially suspended for his comment at muma
tawdry hamlet
Posting trihard7 in chat whenever a specific African American dude was on camera and telling muma to suck a fat cock "oh wait he'd probably like that" referencing how Muma is gay
earnest leaf
then kicked by dallas for typing an emote
frank torrent
b r u h
mortal cipher
then kicked by dallas for typing an emote
an emote
frank torrent
you are on national television
upper niche
mortal cipher
i remember he called a houston player a slur
frank torrent
conduct yo ass
earnest leaf
Don't remember him calling anyone a slur
mortal cipher
it was on a stream from wot i saw
earnest leaf
just the dumb joke towards muma and typing trihard at the wrong moment
mortal cipher
it was some video on xqc
earnest leaf
He told muma to "go suck a dick, you'd probably like it"
upper niche
Taimou has done it multiple times, he has a pattern of homophobic behavior.
mortal cipher
He told muma to "go suck a dick, you'd probably like it"
that wot i meant
willow tartan
ehh its whatevs
mortal cipher
tru
willow tartan
xqc is now like one of the most richest streamers of all time
mortal cipher
true
willow tartan
up there with ninja, shroud and dr disrespect
mortal cipher
whos the most
willow tartan
well no idea
earnest leaf
xqc most likely
willow tartan
their financials are private yk
mortal cipher
yeah and richest channel
willow tartan
like if ur going based off of subs n shit
mortal cipher
byeah
willow tartan
but most money comes from brand deals and stuff
like rem when ninja went to mixer?
mortal cipher
and editers
mortal cipher
mixer died tho
tropic herald
only match to look forwards to is paris glads now
mortal cipher
yeah
frank torrent
they get taxed to shit because boomer avarice knows no bounds
earnest leaf
looking forward to that match?
frank torrent
IIRC streamers get hit with business taxes too
earnest leaf
think glads will probably roll them
mortal cipher
prbably but im hoping for a good one
tropic herald
eh i think paris might show up
mortal cipher
but since london rolled them match one im not too sure
tawdry hamlet
They should be fine if London and Vancouver both took a couple maps and Paris usually wins at least one series
mortal cipher
yeah
and if they beat shock and london about beat the shock i think glads will be fine
mortal cipher
They should be fine if London and Vancouver both took a couple maps and Paris us...
true
willow tartan
only match to look forwards to is paris glads now
dragons vs philly
uhh who else plays
shock vs paris
dallas vs houston
cdh vs phi
half crescent
mortal cipher
oof
earnest leaf
Shock will re-group and roll paris dw 
stuck radish
just saw the results of london v shock and what the actual fuck
how did shock almost lose to LONDON
earnest leaf
super didn't shave
tropic herald
im really interested to see how this meta pans out
earnest leaf
I think it's going to end up similar to the may melee meta
lots of rush and experimentation, but end up being some form of dive towards the end
earnest leaf
yes
raw ermine
hackfist plz
raw ermine
twilight> viol2t (in style)
mortal cipher
like however you see it i dont know how to explain how london about beat shock
earnest leaf
London played well and shock as a team was playing very poorly
mortal cipher
if this was 2018 maybe but this is london now
earnest leaf
Lots of macro mistakes
earnest leaf
They have a bad habit of doing that sort of stuff
tropic herald
not expecting london to be a legitamately competitive team on rush
earnest leaf
In previous years it was fine because they could shit on 99% of teams with ease
stuck radish
London played well and shock as a team was playing very poorly
this has been a recurring theme this year
earnest leaf
But this season they lost their ability to do that
mortal cipher
same with how they were focused on houston in mm and get 3-niled by dallas
mortal cipher
yeah true
tropic herald
yea they arent mechanically dominant over that many teams this season
mortal cipher
but then they get the 3-niled by atlanta
stuck radish
how
earnest leaf
Last season they could consistently win fights down 1-2 people
mortal cipher
idbk how to explain this
tropic herald
london just picked up a coach that dissected shocks every problem
earnest leaf
Molf1g also was playing super fucking well
mortal cipher
like the third worst team in the league about beat the everloving crap out of the shcok
shock
tropic herald
shock lack a lot of things this season they are used to having and it makes them very mortal
mortal cipher
how in the bloody hael do you explain this
earnest leaf
Shock also can't hard diff everyone in every role now
mortal cipher
shock lack a lot of things this season they are used to having and it makes them...
like ans moth and now striker yet they put ans in too early
plus rascal
earnest leaf
s3 shock legit just had straight better players at every position 99% of the time
tropic herald
ans, rascal, moth, junkbuck
earnest leaf
I'm starting to think losing junkbuck was the biggest hit to them
mortal cipher
yeah they coul roll about everyone where this season about everyone is good
tropic herald
also viol2t should just not be in the lineup if hes not playing zen imo
mortal cipher
I'm starting to think losing junkbuck was the biggest hit to them
they had him last year
earnest leaf
That's another thing
mortal cipher
also viol2t should just not be in the lineup if hes not playing zen imo
true hes best at zen
earnest leaf
Viol2t is playing no where near as well as he did last season
tropic herald
idk if hes the best zen bc we have no zen metric this season but hes def up there
earnest leaf
If viol2t plays his normal self
mortal cipher
its ok not great
tropic herald
he plays bap the wrong way in this meta
mortal cipher
not even close
earnest leaf
his lamps/walls were off today especially
tropic herald
you could get away with the aggro bap in ds bc there was so much shield health
mortal cipher
i think everyone was off
stuck radish
i think viol2t is having an identity crisis and playing like violet the brig guy
tropic herald
but now you just get rolled if you try to do that
raw ermine
you forgot viol2t mercy
stuck radish
viol2t echo
mortal cipher
oh yeah
earnest leaf
his mercy and lucio unironically weren't too bad
tropic herald
im going to be honest
viol2t should not be allowed to play dps for shock
he just shouldnt
mortal cipher
yeah
earnest leaf
He hasn't played dps for a while
When was the last time he even ran dps
Vs dallas in the may melee?
mortal cipher
last time i remember it didnt end well
stuck radish
he rolled birdring on mccree didnt he
tropic herald
which leads me to believe that something was not going good internal
earnest leaf
I do think that trying out twilight/fdgod would be interesting
idk how good twilights bapt is though
His ana is thicc, really good zen, probably a fine moira
But idk about bapt
tropic herald
his bap is good
we saw it last year
it was just a diff approach to bap
a lot less selfish with his resources
earnest leaf
Yea maybe it could work out with fdgod who knows
tropic herald
id like to see twilight start for this team
its kinda a gesture marve1 situation
theres a few supports viol2t is really good at
he should start for the,
them
but if its not that support then please dont field him
earnest leaf
Another weird thing is they looked their best today with the all korean/nero lineup
But yesterday they lost maps only with that roster
Well ans was in over nero
earnest leaf
so I want to see the full korean/nero roster more
tropic herald
like i think twilight overall is just criminally underused
tropic herald
i think the ideal roster is smurf choi ans (when he decides to return to form) glister fdgod twilight
although super and viol2t appear to be vaguely important to comm structure
and supposedly striker was too
earnest leaf
I think smurf is pretty vocal
tawdry hamlet
Imo
Nero and Choi have been inconsistent and super has been ok but nothing amazing Smurf has been actually just fine and then the support line has not been meshing at all
Nero goes from top 5 flex dps to top 10 every other game it's weird
I really think it's a support issue though the dps and tanks looked far better coordinated I think today
tropic herald
nero only really impresses me on echo
rest of his fdps picks have been pretty mediocre
earnest leaf
I thought his hanzo looked solid
tawdry hamlet
Pretty sure on Paris Fdgod wasn't main comms and now he has to since dogman said moth is like an in game narrator for you when he is igl and fdgod is having issues doing the supportive thing since he's an aggressive player
Idk violet has also Lowkey way worse this season
tropic herald
I thought his hanzo looked solid
its also hanzo
i kinda want to go back and watch viol2t last year to see, has he really changed that much or has having a diff team around him expose more weakness
earnest leaf
Viol2t seems to be playing worse
tawdry hamlet
He makes more mistakes now, I've noticed lots of shock players make more mistakes almost like their so anxious about losing because they are supposed to be the best
Idk their mental seems bonked
earnest leaf
Also this past week or so has been hectic
north relic
Week one June joust was a nightmare for pickems
earnest leaf
Losing striker and agape, getting ans back and trying to re-integrate him, new qualifier set and meta to work on
tropic herald
i have seen a lot of people say that since shock looked so bad today that glads win wasnt quality
which i tend to disagree with
tawdry hamlet
A win is a win, molf and sparkr showed up hard 
Glads win is valid 
Ok so did Hadi look better today or was he just getting lucky like he has awful positioning and feeds a ton but he also made some big plays every so often
earnest leaf
hadi was on orisa more
so he couldn't feed as hard
but fuck me when he was off orisa he hard fed
tawdry hamlet
Yeah I was watching apply watch it and every single time apply would be like "I don't like this play from Hadi I don't think it will work here" and then 2 seconds later Hadi is melted lmao
Just wild to see another top level players like see the mistakes and say them out loud for you
Live narrating
Wish casters did that a little better but they're more casual
We need more casters like Jake who are gm since reinforce and custa are desk now it'd be nice to have
tropic herald
itd be cool to see some current pros cast
i think moth would be super good at play by play for example
tawdry hamlet
Yes I want more player analysts it made Jake so good
Reinforce casting was so fun last year too
Hmm who is someone with good play by play like moth who's retired
earnest leaf
feel like jake would be the best one
tawdry hamlet
Yeah, Jake, maybe someone like unter wouldn't be bad
tropic herald
space moth casting duo
mortal cipher
umm ark
earnest leaf
almost lost to london
mortal cipher
umm about lost
earnest leaf
like map 5 1-1 koth near loss
forest raven
mortal cipher
3-2 Shock
earnest leaf
Like last round was 99-70
mortal cipher
yeah
tropic herald
a fight london almost won too
mortal cipher
it was like v close
mortal cipher
a fight london almost won too
it was like an inch diff
tropic herald
were close
forest raven
earnest leaf
eich wasn't very close imo
mortal cipher
anubis is the only one
tropic herald
?
mortal cipher
eich wasn't very close imo
yeah more in londons favor
earnest leaf
shock pretty handily won eich
forest raven
tropic herald
ok maybe i miss remembered eich
earnest leaf
shock held them halfway on 2nd point
forest raven
Worse than Kansas
tropic herald
oh wait thats the one where ripa fed a few fights
tropic herald
ohio :/
forest raven
plush sail
o
mortal cipher
given london is the the best team out of the worst teams but still they are the are 3rd worse and about beat the shock
tropic herald
but anyways back to esports
plush sail
oh yeah ur a mod
forest raven
tropic herald
they are the best of the shit tier teams
mortal cipher
london is not the best of the worst imo
i mean theres valiant Vancouver and London
out of those three at least
tropic herald
depending how rest of stage goes they could get promoted
mortal cipher
true
they have looked to get progressively better since they about beat the shock thats not a easy thing
tropic herald
ok wait
mortal cipher
so its a good sign
mortal cipher
yeah true
they could win it or make a very close game if they can almost beat the shock they can surely beat the reign
tropic herald
it really depends how the meta evolves and how their enemyies pick that meta up compared to them
mortal cipher
yeah true
tropic herald
justice and reign unironically are teams that could lag on meta
forest raven
My hopes for the threepeat are slowly but inevitably trending towards unlikely 
mortal cipher
i mean justice basically die without decay
mortal cipher
My hopes for the threepeat are slowly but inevitably trending towards unlikely <...
oh ive had that since they got swept twice
the first was like ok that was suprising for everyone but the reign was like umm wot
tropic herald
honestly if shock play like today again
mortal cipher
dallas was random so it made sense
tropic herald
paris is going to beat them
mortal cipher
oh for sure
tropic herald
and then they will be 2-2 maybe not even make knockouts
forest raven
Is Shock still playing merry go round with the subs
tropic herald
yes
forest raven
Oh no
mortal cipher
i thnk so
tropic herald
not dps
mortal cipher
yeah
tropic herald
tank and supports now
mortal cipher
oh boty
forest raven
Oh no
tropic herald
like
mortal cipher
yeha not looking too good
forest raven
Oh no
mortal cipher
after today it was a show they cant go around doing the same thing like theyve always done
tawdry hamlet
if super only subbed for rein and they didn't run violet lucio things would probably be simpler
forest raven
Wait
plush sail
has anyone here ever hard crushed on harbleu?
forest raven
They ran Viol2t lucio?
tawdry hamlet
yes
forest raven
Oh no
tawdry hamlet
fdgod got remeched on at one point
I do recall that
Nero and FDGod need to get more consistent and Viol2t needs to play like idk different lmao
willow tartan
I don't understand why they would ever, ever, ever put viol2t on lucio.
They were begging to be upset by London.
forest token
did viol2t play lucio?
willow tartan
Yes.
forest token
the fuck?
willow tartan
The fuck indeed.
keen abyss
mortal cipher
yeah they are hella comfused
earnest leaf
viol2t did fine on lucio
mortal cipher
not the best
barren quest
plush sail
itr seeems like ppl are having an esports vibe im missing out on
mortal cipher
aww
balmy wolf
oh we didnt get breadsticks today :(
next mesa
Bold pred 3-0 seoul let's go baby
true hound
Bold pred 3-0 seoul let's go baby
only correct prediction tbh
willow tartan
in eastern division anything is possible
earnest leaf
I'm all in on seoul stonks this stage
earnest leaf
You see here's the deal
tropic herald
lose knockouts
earnest leaf
I go all in on their stocks for the stage
then sell them all before knockouts
and go full send into shd
tropic herald
smart
im so annoyed by today
lost 40k points in avast bc i predded london and mayhe,
sullen berry
They ran Viol2t lucio?
i thought I was just hearing things, because he eventually went back to bap
willow tartan
you think philly will finally qualify this stage?
sullen berry
hoping my friend is happy with sniping SparkR for their fantasy draft
willow tartan
since they have their roster
in theory they should qualify right?
vs cdh, nye and gzc
slow lodge
They will
willow tartan
only watching summer showdown to see dragons smack fuel again
storm cloak
earnest leaf
Don't think he's in NA yet
south summit
OH THX USED TO BE AN NYXL FAN REALLY HYPED TO SEE PINE BACK
willow tartan
Which teams do you guys think are a playoffs threat?
karmic abyss
Shanghai, shock, glads, fuel
forest raven
Seoul 
karmic abyss
Shanghai, shock, glads, fuel
glads is a small stretch
karmic abyss
Seoul <:PauseChamp:686399348812152842>
obv🥶 🥶 🥶
tidal moat
gg sparks win every game from now on
forest raven
No I don't think so
mortal abyss
Look at their name
tidal moat
COLDEST and IDK best supports*
mortal abyss
Lmao
plush grail
mortal abyss
Sheesh ok shy
hot onyx
Damn you love to see your pickems go down the drain when Spark coaching decides “yeah keeping a winston one trick on rein and ball and benching the better half of the team is an excellent idea”
worldly flax
mortal abyss
seoul look so good
could defo get to hawaii
their rush is very clean
only teams i see being able to beat them is dragons and maybe fusion on a rush mirror
sullen berry
seoul on the hawaii hype train definitely
robust falcon
seoul is looking insaneeee
worldly flax
nisha on mercy 
sullen berry
Im just chilling bro
worldly flax
wait you're watching on twitch? 
sullen berry
nah, youtube
worldly flax
oh lol
sullen berry
and the bilibili stream which is ahead 60 seconds
worldly flax
does bilibili give tokens though
sullen berry
devout path
Ayo
Who woulda thought
That if Seoul decided to think for 2 seconds
They would be a top tier team
Also how did Chengdu get so much percent that last round
I feel like I only saw charge dominating
proper vigil
i have a question what purpose does brig zen serve?
balmy wolf
damage
proper vigil
like i dont understand what they are meant to do in a comp
balmy wolf
frag potential
proper vigil
oh so its a damage comp, then why not go batipse?
proper vigil
ohh
balmy wolf
and she pairs well with tracer and ball
proper vigil
ah okay
upper niche
like i dont understand what they are meant to do in a comp
In a dive comp they'll help mark targets for potential to eliminate them quicker.
proper vigil
thank you
fervent acorn
that amazing charge9
devout path
You always want to have discord in a dive comp but because zen brig just doesn’t give enough healing to a monkey you can’t really run it
tacit igloo
Bro choi needs a new team he tried to carry them all 😢
tacit igloo
If he was on a team like Atlanta or Seoul, not necessarily the best but good, he’d raise the team
Also how tf did London do so good
For London I mean
tacit igloo
Not necessarily, he would be a good sub for profit when he’s not performing at his best.
balmy wolf
fair
tacit igloo
Where would you but him?
forest raven
Never sub out profit
tacit igloo
Put*
balmy wolf
shock
tacit igloo
profit hasn’t been consistent lately. Subbing him out at times keeps him fresh
balmy wolf
spark
forest raven
Did you not watch Seoul Chengdu yesterday
balmy wolf
toronto
tacit igloo
That’s one game. I’m talking about when he ISNT at his best
He just needs to leave charge imo
raw ermine
Ffs how did spark get 3-0'd
raw ermine
I thought guxue Winston and shy popping would bring them to game 5
tacit igloo
Shock are looking trash after London
raw ermine
I guess not
devout path
Not necessarily, he would be a good sub for profit when he’s not performing at h...
Profit is always performing at above choi levels
upper niche
Ffs how did spark get 3-0'd
I know. My PickEms got wrecked! 😄
cursive plover
They would probably just both implode
bronze turtle
lol
raw ermine
Somehow I feel that map broke some sort of record
idle beacon
i've missed the first 2 matches of today. were they intense and entertaining? or rather boring?
devout path
i've missed the first 2 matches of today. were they intense and entertaining? or...
Seoul absolutely rolled
Chengdu game was choi trying to carry but couldn’t 1v6
hollow bough
happy to see seoul getting big wins
hollow bough
definitely
hollow bough
vikki isn't that new right?
idle beacon
coming from super smash bros to overwatch. huge
xD
nope
never watching contenders
runic sigil
hollow bough
la val playing strat roulette
idle beacon
this music
especially made for owl stuff. or does anyone know who the artist is and the song name?
noooo vikki dont be a nyxl lover 😦
ivory stag
Valiant better at least win 1 map too like spitfire and titans
hollow bough
have you seen val's map diff?
ivory stag
yeah well if spitfire can 2-5 shock valiant can at least get 1
weak bolt
This is just tragic. LAV looking arguably worse than S1 SHD
ivory stag
do they know the payload is more inportant than a team fight there? or last round?
devout path
This is just tragic. LAV looking arguably worse than S1 SHD
No
I mean
Dragons literally went 0-40
weak bolt
If this season was 40 games long, I could see LAV going 0-40 honestly
devout path
Teams literally hard practiced just to not lose to dragons
weak bolt
SHD won 21 maps, lost 141. That's a 1:7 Ratio of map wins. LAV are current 2:27 lol
devout path
I feel bad for the teams that lose a map to season 1 dragons
forest raven
Philly went to map 5 against season 1 dragons
vivid dawn
la atleast look 1 map off of philly
next mesa
Bold pred 3-0 seoul let's go baby
My brain is literally too big
feral zodiac
If this valiant squad remains the same, they will never win a game
forest raven
Is this valiant squad worse than season 1 shanghai
tawdry hamlet
I hope hz figure it out their roster is actually good tbh. If lige was able to play it'd get even better
Like imagine if Lige played this season and Lige and shy became like the star rookie duo 😭
I don't think he'll play a game which sucks but I hope he feels well now he was so good in contenders
wicked pendant
I had to sleep and didn't see Day 2 West aside from Shock struggling against Spitfire
How did the rest of the games go?
wicked pendant
Against Mayhem?
tawdry hamlet
yeah
wicked pendant
Interesting.
tawdry hamlet
the yaki vs aspire tracer battle was awesome
wicked pendant
Worth going back to watch or naaaaaaaaaaaaah
tawdry hamlet
ehh, maybe a map, not the whole series since toronto games lowkey sleeper
but a map or two yeah
Gibraltar specifically was good
wicked pendant
What's the breadsticks situation?
wicked pendant
sadge
next mesa
Merit joined O2?
Wow
So not charge
Interesting
They signed 3 runaway players already
Maybe..? Whole roster?
earnest leaf
That's my mf seoul stonks
Got all of apac right. Just had chengdu gzc as a 3-2 and not 3-0
willow tartan
I preded gzc taking one map
Idk I guess I was just hoping they would make it somewhat competitive since they upset new york
next mesa
I preded gzc taking one map
Same
tropic herald
Guess Charge aren’t getting a new hitscan
But also don’t forget your preds for this weekend
Shanghai are going to slap Seoul then get 3-0ed by Philly but I guarantee Philly isn’t the better of the two
Wait Chengdu started Ameng Lateyoung and still 3-0ed charge
There’s no hope for that team
idle beacon
vikkiikky \o/
next mesa
Guess Charge aren’t getting a new hitscan
looks like O2 are signing the whole runaway roster lol
also seoul activated serious mode
this is what happens whe n udont play gesture
seoul vs chengdu on gibraltar
creative held nano way too long
not proactive
ivory mason
shanghai will not win a single qualification 4-0
its cursed
they will just lose 1 and then go to the final of the tournament
willow tartan
the Shanghai way is to get swept by a random team each stage
trail perch
Wait if London almsot got their first win against the shock...
Valiant sweeps shanghai???????????????????
idle beacon
looks like O2 are signing the whole runaway roster lol
O2 is what? a contenders team or what exactly?
next mesa
Contenders korea team yes
trail perch
The second most historic contenders team
Behind GC Busan
02 has been the home of Diem, Erster, Viol2t, Rain, Yakpung, Stellar, pelican, proper, kaiser, myungbong, mandu, cr0ng, teru and neko
it has had many versions, 02 team, 02 blast, 02 ardeont
tropic herald
Element Mysti
trail perch
but out of all teams, I would say Runaway1 KDP2 GC Busan3 O24 and EM5
Em has had a very short history honestly
2018 they where irrelevent s1 then later they got good with pokpo daco
s3 sparkle was suspended
2019 they did good
and 2020 kinda irrelevent
tawdry hamlet
Bianca upgrade
idle beacon
@trail perchand which well-known owl players originate from GC Busan?
vagrant cargo
I hope the nohill rumor is true as well
vagrant cargo
<@!265621587753959425>and which well-known owl players originate from GC Busan?
Profit Gesture
If u count gc busan wave then edison and fielder as well
balmy wolf
common valiant steamroll today
tawdry hamlet
I think people expected a ton improvement because hotba was so bad last year but Bianca hasn't done it
idle beacon
thanks
trail perch
<@!265621587753959425>and which well-known owl players originate from GC Busan?
Profit, Gesture, Edison, jjangu, fielder
idle beacon
thanks aswell 🙂
idle beacon
the match running live on yt now, is a replay of the match earlier, right?
idle beacon
and why are they rebroadcasting it?
because of the huge time difference between NA and Asia?
tawdry hamlet
For non Asians who don't want to watch them at 2am when they air in Asia
tropic herald
For NA fans
tawdry hamlet
sullen berry
vagrant cargo
Closer was on gc busan too
tropic herald
Yea Spitfire May be 0-9 but at least they are starting to be competitive
tropic herald
Those 3 aren’t really names people know anymore
vagrant cargo
And
tropic herald
Except maybe Hooreg
vagrant cargo
They still were on the squad
idle beacon
where is the blonde guy from valiant? from season2. the val coach always wasn't satisfied with him
worn falcon
Haksal
tight vault
I know like no owl players names
tawdry hamlet
Woohyal plays in t2 rn doesn't he
idle beacon
yea agil
worn falcon
Abilities
vagrant cargo
Woohyal plays in t2 rn doesn't he
Think so
tropic herald
WooHyal played for RunAway at somepoint iirc
tawdry hamlet
Woohyal plays for cc atm
vagrant cargo
I mean agilities should have stopped competing after S2 tbh
tropic herald
Oh he’s on CC now
tawdry hamlet
I mean he was very important in the genji meta at least
tropic herald
Daily reminder that Proper turns 18 for next season
vagrant cargo
The bladebot meta?
Also offtopic
But imagine if boston secured muze and signed godsb
Godsb Valentine MuZe GBS Myunbong Faith
🦍
idle beacon
i hope we'll see more NA and EU players again, when ow2 starts. no offense and no hate against kr players. but there are so many kr players.making ow look like an korean sports game 😛
vagrant cargo
i hope we'll see more NA and EU players again, when ow2 starts. no offense and n...
Maybe eu n NA should git gud
tawdry hamlet
Wonder what So0n would be doing
vagrant cargo
Also theres a bunch of EU talent
tropic herald
NA talent comes out of the incubator this year
tawdry hamlet
They have gotten good, there's just no open spots
tropic herald
Maybe they get signed
vagrant cargo
NA talent sucks
tawdry hamlet
tropic herald
This year there’s some actual people I believe that should get signed
vagrant cargo
For example?
idle beacon
Maybe eu n NA should git gud
come on. there are enough good and talented NA / EU players
vagrant cargo
Not rlly
tropic herald
Ojee should get signed to teams like Houston or Atlanta
tropic herald
UV too
vagrant cargo
Speedily would be mid owl prolly
tawdry hamlet
Na talent is far better than it was this year, ultraviolet, ojee, speedily, wub, aspire
tropic herald
Speedily can’t get signed next season
vagrant cargo
Aspire is aighr
tawdry hamlet
Sugarfree
worn falcon
Aspire is doing decently yeh
idle beacon
yday, spitfire .. they looked solid. against nyxl. they are talented. for exsample
vagrant cargo
U mean sf shock
And spitfire are 0-9
Or something
They havent won a map
A match*
tawdry hamlet
Aspire is better than Logix and anyone who played in tier 2 will tell you that they'd take him over Logix any day 
tropic herald
They are friends with owen yes but if they had spilo sooner I bet they could’ve beaten at least one team
idle beacon
nah i dont mena sfs. and i know spitfire is 0-9.. but 2-3 vs nyxl. a young contenders team. not bad at all
vagrant cargo
Yeah because logix is also ass
tropic herald
Namely the Boston match they took to 5
idle beacon
wat?
vagrant cargo
London never played NYXL
vagrant cargo
Also there are around 10 eu players in OWL id consider owl level
idle beacon
and sfs > nyxl
vagrant cargo
And 5? NA players
trail perch
10?
vagrant cargo
Yeah maybe more
trail perch
Which ones r u thinking?
idle beacon
soon still playing, right?
idle beacon
soon was a strong EU player
and his mate, the zenyatta.. cant remember his name atm
unkoe ?
trail perch
Unkoe was gone after s2
tawdry hamlet
vagrant cargo
Dridro Kaan Molf1g Kevster Mirror Funnyastro Shax Kai Vestola Hadi Poko FDGod Naga Onigod Tsuna
idle beacon
ye but he was a good player
vagrant cargo
Its actually more than 10 ye
idle beacon
or boombox. also a good zen
trail perch
Mirror is APAC
vagrant cargo
Hes latvian
trail perch
From Taiwan i thought
tawdry hamlet
Vietnamese but lived in Latvia
idle beacon
whats the french dva name again? poko ?
vagrant cargo
He scrimmed vs my team w team latvia
vagrant cargo
He has latvian citizenship
trail perch
He just lived in latvia for a bit
trail perch
vagrant cargo
Sinatraas parents are korean and german
idle beacon
sinaatra was born in the states
vagrant cargo
Kodaks parents arent german eithwr iirc
idle beacon
and, really? his parents are korean / german? 😮
trail perch
He was born in vietnam but ig he counts as EU cause thats where he played
I just didnt know that
idle beacon
kodak's mom is german. must be
vagrant cargo
Yeah and je also has eu citizenship
idle beacon
sinaatra has german citizenship?
balmy wolf
damn
vagrant cargo
sinaatra has german citizenship?
Nah mirror has
balmy wolf
sinatraa german?
vagrant cargo
His mom is i think
trail perch
EQO
idle beacon
ntb said sin has german parent
trail perch
you forgot eqo
balmy wolf
he doesnt look german
vagrant cargo
idk if we count EQO as EU if we do tjen ye
idle beacon
mirror is fully vietnamese, though?
balmy wolf
does he speak german
vagrant cargo
Idk
idle beacon
or half vietnam and half .. german?
vagrant cargo
Dont think so
trail perch
Israel plays EU servers and his team would have competed in EU contenders if he wasnt picked up for owl
so I think he counts
vagrant cargo
Aight
trail perch
I think thats it
trail perch
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