esports-discussion

[ivory stag]

having only one tank is gonna be bad either gonna be hard dive or shield vs snipers

[idle beacon]

is it surely 1 tank only?

[quaint aurora]

Wait so am I actually gonna need to aim

[idle beacon]

or can it also be 2 tanks, 2 dps, 1 healer

[quaint aurora]

[forest raven]

It's only 1 tank

2 dps and 2 supp

[idle beacon]

or 2 tanks ,1 dps, 2 healers

hm not cool

[quaint aurora]

1 healer would suck for healers

1 tank is the best

[idle beacon]

that will make zarya .. damn it. forgot the word

[ivory stag]

deff not gonna be this lol dps que is already 10 min if they did this the que would be 30 hour just for a qp

[quaint aurora]

It’s the best 5v5 comp they could’ve done

[idle beacon]

that will make zarya not valuable anymore

[quaint aurora]

Did you even check the livestream?

[idle beacon]

no

[quaint aurora]

Well zarya would have 2 bubbles

Tanks get buffed to be better alone

[idle beacon]

what livestream do you mean?

[ivory stag]

hog buffed oh god

[quaint aurora]

Give me a second I’ll get it for you

[idle beacon]

hog buffed AGAIN?

[ivory stag]

i mean when they buff all tanks in ow2

[proper vigil]

did you not watch the ow2 live stream?

[ivory stag]

not rn

[idle beacon]

hog fkn broken crap fat pig tank.. hate this broken tank so much 😄

[ivory stag]

only solid counter to hod is anti nade or cc tf outta him lol

[idle beacon]

no, wasn't aware about it. the blizzcon 2020 (from beginning of 2021) livestream or another one?

[ivory stag]

he takes no skill to play

[quaint aurora]

@idle beacon https://youtu.be/MvHLy-GdwOc

[idle beacon]

thanks, chad

wasn't aware of this vid

[quaint aurora]

Np

[ivory stag]

push game mode looks cool

[quaint aurora]

Well they did a livestream in may

[idle beacon]

yea. like some mobile ctf 😛

[ivory stag]

like king of hill plus payload

[idle beacon]

where did they announce it? hadn't had a clue

there was nothing in the bnet app

[ivory stag]

i like genjis base skin the hood looks bad ass

[quaint aurora]

I think they announced on Twitter

[idle beacon]

twitter. not there 😦

[ivory stag]

NY gonna 3-1 this now

[idle beacon]

im not there

[proper vigil]

who do you think is gonna be the mvp

[mortal abyss]

Fearless

[ivory stag]

Strik---oh wait nvm

[devout path]

If you can’t make plays you can’t make plays

Damn

[idle beacon]

am i seeing it right? gz vs nyxl now. and again in 4hrs ?

[devout path]

Why don’t people just stop fearless from making plays then so fearless can’t make plays

[wicked pendant]

Brilliant

[devout path]

Encore

[idle beacon]

whats encore?

[ivory stag]

My favorite character is that reaper guy.

[wicked pendant]

Why didn't the best OW players in the world think of that?

[idle beacon]

i mean, whats encore about

[wicked pendant]

Free tokens, baybee

[ivory stag]

them double revolvers kek

[devout path]

Replay of a game from apac for na viewers

[idle beacon]

ok

so the next real match is in 7hrs

[ivory stag]

i think its the sf 3-0 titans at 2 or 3

[wicked pendant]

Damn, bro. Did you really just say East region games aren't "real?"

[idle beacon]

the next match for me is in 7hrs

if encore is about replay

who's the best baptiste, btw?

[forest raven]

Viol2t

[ivory stag]

he meant live match not replay

but even though he didnt mean it that way he not wrong lol

[idle beacon]

so what is it in 4hrs?

is it another gz vs nyxl match or not?

[ivory stag]

sfs vs titans i think

[wicked pendant]

I know, I was just being facetious lmao

Although reminder that Shanghai won the June Joust

[idle beacon]

and me being totally confused now 😄

[devout path]

Like

[ivory stag]

but technically if you go west for long enough youll get to dragons so they technically west kekw

[devout path]

Why the hell has gwangboong been subbed out the entire time

[ivory stag]

what does gwangboong mean or is it his irl name?

[wicked pendant]

LMAO these charge facecams

Scuffed af

[raw ermine]

his real name is Kim Gwang-won

so

probably to do w/ it

[wicked pendant]

These mines are doing a ton of work

[raw ermine]

yakpung says "this fight is mine"

[ivory stag]

ball roll fest

if i was pro league good and on a team id have a random ass name just so the announcers have to say it every time i pop off

[wicked pendant]

The eternal standoff between a Sombra and Lucio, both with ults

[ivory stag]

like cookedTrukey or moistflipflop

something weird

[idle beacon]

trukey

ok

xD

moistflipflop. i think you'd be in trouble with that name

[ivory stag]

how you ever wear flipflops to the beach they get moist

what about SalamiGaming

[idle beacon]

lol

whynot: longshlong

[ivory stag]

too straight forward thats a typical cod name

[wicked pendant]

Pretty sure they actually have some guidelines as to what names you can use.

[idle beacon]

longdong

[ivory stag]

cant be body part related

[wicked pendant]

And they shoot down a lot of suggestions to the point that Hydration took his name from a water bottle near him or something

[ivory stag]

my old username used to be sexyalien

[idle beacon]

how is that that bodypart related and longshlong isn't? 😄

btw ashe. is bbybay still playin?

[sullen berry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXWvZtuPwOM

[idle beacon]

lol flora

too bad. he was a proper dps

[sullen berry]

choisehwan's ice wall is like a 7th player

[idle beacon]

😄

a sure annoying mei he is

[ivory stag]

ny winnin this map

emp cancels lucio ult after its been used right?

or do you have to catch it as he is coming down

[wicked pendant]

EMP deletes ALL shields

[idle beacon]

i think an lucio ult won't be cancelled by an emp

[wicked pendant]

EMP deletes Beat

[idle beacon]

sure?

[wicked pendant]

Yep

That's why Lucios and Sombras dance around a lot when they know they both have ults

[idle beacon]

never was in such situation. i always try to be out of an emp range

[wicked pendant]

Lucios don't want to beat unless the EMP gets out

[idle beacon]

so if lucio's beat animation goes through, the emp won't cancel it?

[wicked pendant]

It will

Any shields on any character gets taken out by EMP

That's why Zen goes down immediately to 50 HP once hit by EMP

[idle beacon]

[15:02] faded isnt shaded: Lucio ult only gets cancellled if he still is in his animation

[wicked pendant]

Well he's wrong

https://overwatch-archive.fandom.com/wiki/EMP#:~:text=EMP will remove the temporary,enemies caught in the blast.&text=The shields and barriers EMP,Barrier HP%2C The Best Defense…

Again, this is why opposing Sombras and Lucios play hideaway when they know they both have ults.

[ivory stag]

so which is it lol does it cancel the ult after its in affect or only if he mid animation?

[wicked pendant]

Dude I linked it and I've said it multiple times. If he gets caught in the animation, like any ult, it will get cancelled. If he manages to drop the beat, the shields will still be wiped by the EMP.

[devout path]

It removes the shields from beat

[ivory stag]

this man thinks imma click on and read a book long wiki link KEK

[wicked pendant]

It's called citation, bruh

[devout path]

Emp removes all shields

And hacks everyone

[wicked pendant]

It even links to the exact sentence that answers your question

[ivory stag]

how would i know i didnt click on that shit

[wicked pendant]

Then shoulda just taken my word for it. Anyway, that's what EMP does to Beat.

[ivory stag]

So it does?

[idle beacon]

but it doesn't cancel trance?

[ivory stag]

kekw

[idle beacon]

righht:?

[ivory stag]

trance is healing and is a transformation ult like monkey rage i think

so i dont think it will

[wicked pendant]

Yeah, it doesn't cancel "transformation" ults

[ivory stag]

maybe they will forget to add sombra into ow2 lol

[idle beacon]

i love it when zen's ult fails when being used after an antinade 😄

did jj borrow his glases to gwangboong? 😛

[ivory stag]

I love those style of glasses the larger circular ones i feel like they have to be an eastern thing a rarily see americans wear them

[wicked pendant]

Am in APAC, can confirm that I wear the same style of glasses

I think y'all in the West have associated it too much to the 70's or something or maybe Harry Potter

[ivory stag]

im from illinois lol

never seen anyone use these and ive spent four years in north south carolina, alabama florida and georgia too

i wish we would see them over here tbh i like the style

most america including myself normally go for the slim rectangle type

[raw ermine]

LUL

[ivory stag]

i think ive seen one girl rock those type of glasses in a art class i took one semester lol

[wicked pendant]

Just become the change you want to see

[ivory stag]

i feel they wouldnt look good on me lol

[wicked pendant]

If you're attractive enough, you might even start a trend

[proper vigil]

seeing brig stun sombra off emp is always a teat

[ivory stag]

i got the looks of a soggy sock

[wicked pendant]

Sometimes it's just an issue of confidence

LIKE FLORA BEING CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO SPAWNBOMB KARIV

[proper vigil]

that was so clean

[ivory stag]

but isnt flora ranked 1 on sticks with a 58% stick rate

[wicked pendant]

They had that thing basically won, too, honestly

RIO LMAO

[ivory stag]

did they ever confirm if 2cp will be taken out of ow2

[wicked pendant]

Kariv really is not having a fun time

[wicked pendant]

Yes.

[ivory stag]

noice

[wicked pendant]

2cp gone.

Rejoice.

[ivory stag]

they really lost out on having beautiful payload maps of anubis, hanamura, and paris by making them 2cp

imagine a payload in the moutains with cherry blossoms or a payload going into a pyramid or under the legs of the paris tower

charge might win

game fps 1 milloin cam fps 1frame

[wicked pendant]

Clean boop

Just shut down that nanomonkey

[raw ermine]

the tanks and flora carried

[ivory stag]

they got ults for this too

[raw ermine]

they somehow survived EMP

[wicked pendant]

Look at Friday's face lol

[idle beacon]

@quaint aurorai think you wanted to give me this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JM0LPrw6Fk

?

its over 2hrs

the other one was ~3mins

[wicked pendant]

I think Flora's the one that's having issues, right?

His movement was weird and he ended up shooting a wall during the Tracer duel?

[idle beacon]

lol

[tawdry hamlet]

mouse died

I assume

[idle beacon]

so he's walling 😛

the mod o nthe left

he has fqn huge hands

wtf

or is it a camera bug?

[sullen berry]

indeed we got to see it happen as it happened

[wicked pendant]

Probably a perspective thing, yeah.

[sullen berry]

unpause imminent

[wicked pendant]

Why is there a 7th empty slot on the Excelsior team? For spectators?

[sullen berry]

that was for BOB

[ivory stag]

damn

[sullen berry]

blizzard devs have said they need to treat BOB when spawned as a separate hero

[idle beacon]

lol

[wicked pendant]

Yeah, but why hasn't it gone away lol

[idle beacon]

no comment on that

[sullen berry]

just NA production things in the spec client

[wicked pendant]

PRODUCTION TEAM DOCKED HOURS OF PAY

[idle beacon]

2cp will be gone with ow2, is that true?

[wicked pendant]

It's still there! It bothers me so much.

[raw ermine]

yeah should be

[idle beacon]

hope they'll bring 4cp

just to piss 2cp haters off 😄

[willow tartan]

seventh man?

[ivory stag]

2 tank 2 heal dps new 7 v7 pog

[willow tartan]

imagine the game is hacked and a random joins

[wicked pendant]

And the game is changed to 12 Hogs 1 Hole

[idle beacon]

rofl

can they stop kissin jj's ass

-.-

[wicked pendant]

DELETED

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/sgbros1_OW/status/1408780983487275009

sgbros1 (@sgbros1_OW)

so the pause was nyxl waiting for their 7th man to join the lobby

Twitter · Jun 26, 2021, 1:35 PM

[remote siren]

Flora back

[idle beacon]

shut up, nyxl lover! @wicked pendant

😛

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/Spex_J/status/1408781448287502337

Jon Spector (@Spex_J)

Don’t worry everyone, I’ll be speaking to whomever allowed @NYXL to bring in their mystery 7th man for the OT push on Volskaya.

Twitter · Jun 26, 2021, 1:37 PM

[devout path]

Yeah waiting for feather

[remote siren]

This dps duo is carrying the rest if nyxl

[wicked pendant]

No, I meant Rio got DELETED

Even with the nano and bubble

[remote siren]

Gwb and Floria should be played going foward

Best dps duo

[sullen berry]

the team really pulled an unreleased ult from Overwatch 2 god damn

add empty hero slot

[wicked pendant]

Also, casters will always worship the ground Jjonak walks on. Just get used to it, my man.

[idle beacon]

yea, i wonder how. he was nano'd and bubbled

[remote siren]

@wicked pendant season one rent free baby

[gilded carbon]

Casters bored

[willow tartan]

it's called having the entire team focus firing him

[idle beacon]

i only saw 2, max 3 focusing him

[wicked pendant]

Aka the Life of a Winston Main

[tawdry hamlet]

dives in for the obvious nano primal, 5 cooldowns boom dead

[willow tartan]

Ez

[gilded carbon]

It’s basically just Winston things

[remote siren]

Fearless would have hard carried this team

[gilded carbon]

If you play Winston it’s not surprising lul

[remote siren]

And led them to 3 0

[idle beacon]

need to rewatch that later. he was like instantly dead.

[remote siren]

Over nyxl

[willow tartan]

main tank experience ™️

[wicked pendant]

I salute good Winston players

I could never do the things they do.

[sullen berry]

Saebyeolbe. Always and forever

[gilded carbon]

You could do the things I do!

[idle beacon]

@wicked pendantremember fissure?

[gilded carbon]

Which are feeding

And failing to primal juggle

[remote siren]

@willow tartan do tou think the nyxl should run this dps duo going foward?

[wicked pendant]

I'll stick to playing Winston-but-with-way-more-means-to-escape-once-you-get-scared (AKA Ball)

[willow tartan]

gwangbong is a good player dude

his just benched before because hitscan not as prevalent

[idle beacon]

fissure was a good ape

[gilded carbon]

True ball is fun

[willow tartan]

since echo dominance n stuff

[tawdry hamlet]

Ivy flora in a tracer flex meta would be ideal, but now that flickscan is relevant again gwangboong flora will probably be ran most maps

[idle beacon]

flickscan

please

is that how you call widow and ashe? 😄

[tawdry hamlet]

it is a term for hitscans that don't play tracer

[idle beacon]

rly?

[wicked pendant]

Y'all think the hitscan falloff stuff in the Experimental will push through (and therefore affect next month's tourney)?

[gilded carbon]

Yes

[tawdry hamlet]

it really won't make a huge difference imo

[gilded carbon]

Experimental always goes through tbh

[idle beacon]

there was no experimental changes which haven't been pushed, except the aprilfools crap

[wicked pendant]

There have been a couple, like Moira group fade.

[idle beacon]

wasn't that one of the very first experimental tryouts?

[gilded carbon]

Tbf that’s a really big change, balance changes always go through

[idle beacon]

like, hog group healing

and some zarya change

[ivory stag]

they say what owl gray skins are out for this bracket?

[worldly flax]

leaked overwatch 3 gameplay lol

[worldly flax]

I think they're gonna do a twitter poll thing again

[sullen berry]

they're signing Saebyeolbe's buyout as we speak

SBB for NYXL

[ivory stag]

do you know if they done hanzo and widow yet/

?

[idle beacon]

@sullen berryr u shittin us?

[worldly flax]

I don't know sorry

[wicked pendant]

Poor Kariv

It's not even like he has poor positioning lol

Just

AWNLOOKIE

[willow tartan]

dude nyxl don't know how to lose wtf

just step off the point

[wicked pendant]

The never-ending team fight part 2354

FINALLY

[remote siren]

Give me more

[ivory stag]

that was noice

[remote siren]

This is so fucking awesome

[idle beacon]

@willow tartanlmao

[remote siren]

No cooridnation on either team

Just pure mechanics

Quick play level

[idle beacon]

stop being so toxic 😛

[proper vigil]

i love it when it gets chaotic

[idle beacon]

who is this other nyxl dps?

feath5r

wtf is that name

[willow tartan]

Just Winston things

[idle beacon]

who did they sub, for feath5r ?

[willow tartan]

Gwwngbomg

[idle beacon]

ah yea

[wicked pendant]

That is the correct spelling.

[idle beacon]

but why?

[wicked pendant]

How did that bomb find him lol

[idle beacon]

some dva bombs are just fqn broken

[ivory stag]

so they take out ashe main put the trracer main on the ashe then put a rando on tracer?

makes since

[idle beacon]

yea ikr ?

[quaint aurora]

that too

[idle beacon]

why take out the better ashe to sub in a worse flora tracer?

[quaint aurora]

I just gave you the owl recap of it because it was long

but yeah if you want to watch the whole thing go ahead

[idle beacon]

thanks again 4 that, chad 🙂

gonna do that after this match

[quaint aurora]

do the owl computers have the same components^

?*

[idle beacon]

sure

why wouldn't they?

the only differences is the input hw

[quaint aurora]

I wonder what monitor they use

probably 144hz

[wicked pendant]

Higher.

MORE

MORE FRAMES

[idle beacon]

you mean the ones on stage or the one they use at home ?

[ivory stag]

ny easy throws this lol

[quaint aurora]

the ones on stage

[idle beacon]

the ones on stage are all the same. some HP Predator stuff

dunno about the screens

[wicked pendant]

It's ogre

[quaint aurora]

740300hz?

[wicked pendant]

THE BOMB

[balmy wolf]

on stage should be 240hz minimum, 360 hasn't been out for long yet

[wicked pendant]

NO WAY

[idle beacon]

ROFL!

charge throwing

[proper vigil]

bianca with the clutch

[ivory stag]

if i was charge id just wait and farm up all ult

[balmy wolf]

maybe 240hz, 1440p

[idle beacon]

why do you bother so much about how much hz their screens have?

[ivory stag]

kekw

lmaooo

[wicked pendant]

Maybe he's in the market for a new one

[proper vigil]

rip

[raw ermine]

sheesh

[wicked pendant]

gg

[raw ermine]

I went 3-2 NY

[gilded carbon]

the casters sound so bored still

lol

[idle beacon]

LOL

[noble nexus]

I went 3-1 NY

[quaint aurora]

I want to buy myself a new one

[noble nexus]

:((((((((((((((((((((

[devout path]

How do charge win

I’m so confused

[wicked pendant]

Their sleep schedules are way out of whack

[idle beacon]

@quaint aurorai dont know if more hz will help much.

[quaint aurora]

it's still skill dependant

[idle beacon]

144hz .. dunno if 240hz or more is much of a difference

i'd go for more fps

i could decrease the inputlag down to 3-4ms if i had a stable 300fps

[quaint aurora]

I see

[balmy wolf]

keep 144, go for 200+ stable frames

if ur dropping below ur refresh rate, thats ur biggest problem

[idle beacon]

a 260hz + a stable 262 or more fps might be even lower lag. but dunno rly

[ivory stag]

flora just couldnt carry hard enough

[idle beacon]

you can test / see your inputlag with a simple trick

ctrl+shift+n

ingame

IND value is the one you need to check

i think

[quaint aurora]

ok thx

[balmy wolf]

IND value is ur network delay

not input lag

?

[idle beacon]

i'm checking it as we speak

SIM

it's the SIM value

i'm around 5.9ms atm

144hz, 170fps

you have to be in a match or on the practice range map. to turn on that info screen

why does it say that spitfire and sfs are live?

wtf

[quaint aurora]

ok thank you

[idle beacon]

so like we said. you have to have a stable fps as high as your screen hz is

[quaint aurora]

yeah I can go to around like 300 fps

I just still have a 60 hz

[balmy wolf]

mid teamfight?

yeah u could defo benefit from 144hz monitor

[quaint aurora]

I feel like i'd just be wasting frames

[balmy wolf]

????

ur already wasting frames

[quaint aurora]

yeah no that's what I mean my bad

I'd be wasting frames by keeping my 60hz

[balmy wolf]

yes

[quaint aurora]

https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/asus-24-fhd-165hz-1ms-gtg-tn-led-g-sync-gaming-monitor-vg248qg-black/13819627

[sullen berry]

because me

I win

[devout path]

No fuck u

[sullen berry]

nyxl's control was kinda smelly by their own standards

you got to admit

I thought charge was no longer that team that played well only on control

[balmy wolf]

0.5ms response time holy shit

[devout path]

Nyxl threw

[sullen berry]

Kariv honestly was the wrong strat

Eileen would sometimes get outplayed by jjonak

[quaint aurora]

so it's good?

[sullen berry]

while your 2020 Tank role star cr0ng just had the diff between bianca

[balmy wolf]

very, and good price in UK, not sure about canada tho

[quaint aurora]

it's alright in canada too

and it's for 165hz

very juicy

[balmy wolf]

yeap

[idle beacon]

0.5ms hm

dunno if u feel much difference between 0.5ms and 1ms 😛

but 165hz is good

can you go up to 340fps, chad?

a stable 340fps

like, double +/- 1-2 frames of your screen hz is always good

[quaint aurora]

okay gonna test that

[balmy wolf]

jesus

midfight??

[quaint aurora]

lowest it dropped to was 200

and it was in the middle of a bunch of ults

[balmy wolf]

jesus

[quaint aurora]

I think I'm good

[balmy wolf]

100% u should get that monitor

[idle beacon]

stick to 200fps then

[sullen berry]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgwhVBnKgvjKtQJTt3l4AaABCQ

[idle beacon]

i had to go all the way down to 170

[idle beacon]

2 more hrs

for spit vs sfs

what are your thoughts? who'll take it?

[tribal canopy]

draw

[idle beacon]

just checked the spitfire roster. did they get rid of them asian players? 😮

or what happened?

[mortal abyss]

They dropped their kr players this season

Decided to promote their academy team

[idle beacon]

can this roster compete with all them other kr rosters?

[sullen berry]

er

take a wild guess

||they're the lowest of the bottom 3 teams without a win this season||

[tight vault]

My hs team better than spitfire

[forest raven]

London Spitfire

AKA SparkR and the training weights

[gusty rampart]

NYXL surprised me

A 3-2 was not expected

[idle beacon]

@sullen berrywell i don't know any player of that roster. but lowest on the bottom. doesn't sound any good

sfs will overrun them

[sullen berry]

let's be clear, contenders players from EU are talent the overwatch needs

obviously it wasn't a choice to field another korean roster if they were going to deliberately scrape the bottom of korean talent and export them all the way to Europe to play with th team

[tawdry hamlet]

that korean team had real pieces but together was never going to win anything

Now if only NA contenders players can age a year or two so they can play already

so many of them are underage

[forest raven]

Ultraviolet

[idle beacon]

wait, london had another full kr team, after profit and birdring were there?

[tawdry hamlet]

yes

[idle beacon]

damn, totally missed that one

[tawdry hamlet]

it was a contenders team with some good pieces but they were last in apac all of last season

[idle beacon]

apac is what again?

[tawdry hamlet]

asia pacific

the region with shanghai and nyxl and charge etc

[idle beacon]

oh ok

i thought it's some cup xD

[tawdry hamlet]

na has london paris san francisco atlanta etc. and they air at different times

I just want homestands and cross region again :(((

[forest raven]

[trail perch]

they should have kept what was good and worked from there

They could have made a formidable roster

[tawdry hamlet]

meh

[trail perch]

Glister, Sanguinar, Bernar, Clestyn

[forest raven]

C9 wanted out of owl lmao

[trail perch]

Pick up MCD

Drop some money on pelican

[tawdry hamlet]

would have been more expensive and they would have to continue to operate out of apac since I presume you can promote your acad team for insanely cheap

[trail perch]

Grab Kaiser

[tawdry hamlet]

plus a lot of those players just straight retired

[idle beacon]

c9 = the money giver of london .. or what do you mean by that, draw?

[forest raven]

C9 owns the London spot yes

[trail perch]

Just kaiser

[tawdry hamlet]

[trail perch]

Everyone else still plays

[idle beacon]

how does c9 have so much money.

[trail perch]

Big esports org

Plays in everything

usually wins

[tawdry hamlet]

counter strike and league

[idle beacon]

ye but still. if i remember correctly, the fee to join OWL was 20 million

[tawdry hamlet]

many orgs are loaded from counter strike

[sullen berry]

to be fair, most of us will recognize APAC from NA, but my workmate whose into NBA and football will attest East and West divisions make so much sense

[trail perch]

Yeah thats nothing to orgs like that

[forest raven]

Also outside investment

[tawdry hamlet]

some teams aren't even owned by a company just a rich guy, a lot like american football or basketball teams

such as the Gladiators iirc

[sullen berry]

not sure how they feel about chinese orgs in a Eastern division before I told them it's an international esports competition

[trail perch]

NYXL too

and I think atlanta

Boston

[tawdry hamlet]

[forest raven]

NYXL is owned by Andbox which was made by a bunch of venture capitalists

[trail perch]

Andbox operates it I thought

and the Mets COO owns it'

[forest raven]

Atlanta's owned by Cox Enterprises and Province

The team is owned by Andbox, an organization that was co-founded by Sterling VC partners Jeff Wilpon, Scott Wilpon, Rohit Gupta, and Farzam Kamel.

[trail perch]

whoops

[forest raven]

But yeah Boston is owned by one of the NFL team owners

[tawdry hamlet]

Jeff Wilpon owned xl2

Kraft

[forest raven]

Yeah that one

[gusty rampart]

NYXL is getting better

Still not great

[forest raven]

And Glads is Kroenke

[gusty rampart]

But getting there

[tawdry hamlet]

by getting better you mean tracer was available again

the beloved inconsistency of apac

[forest raven]

Philly has fuck you money and still drops a map to Valiant

[gusty rampart]

I have no idea what happened there

Philly was 100% ass in June Joust

[tawdry hamlet]

plenty of teams with dumb amounts of money lose easy games

[forest raven]

Dallas for three years

[gusty rampart]

Dallas when they're finally good

[tawdry hamlet]

eqo looked fine, if they hadn't dropped that numbani map they wouldn't have been that bad, but they misread the meta their first game, and then were 1 map away from a clean 6-0 to still make knockouts and drop a map

[gusty rampart]

We humiliated them at the beginning of the season

[sullen berry]

no, they became the very thing they orignally sought to destroy - all korean roster supremacy

[tawdry hamlet]

[gusty rampart]

Watching Paris yesterday was fun

I got 10 point on pickems so far

[idle beacon]

outside investment?

[forest raven]

Ye

Envy, the owner of Dallas got investments from a Dallas energy tycoon for their OWL spot

[idle beacon]

so you're saying that gaming orgs earn so much money with price money? i doubt that. 20 millon .. what tournaments shits out so much cash? LoL was once 2mill for 1st place.

[idle ore]

can you still redeem OWL tokens by watching their stream

[tawdry hamlet]

they have sponsorships and revenue from advertising and other stuff

[idle beacon]

ok that makes sense again. outside companies investing in c9 .. sort of

[tawdry hamlet]

it isn't raw prize money that funds them

it is a combination of merch advertising lan events etc.

many things

[forest raven]

Merch makes the money

[idle beacon]

still alot of money. i understand that the Krafts dood has so much money. but a gaming org

[tawdry hamlet]

c9 has been a top org for like 9 years now it makes sense lol

same for other gaming orgs

most of them are multimillion dollar companies

like NRG

or faze etc

[idle beacon]

schroet kommando must be very heavy then, by now

sk gaming, that is

[next mesa]

YOOOOO

SEOUL 😩😩😩

[tropic herald]

levy ur team did something smart

for once

[tight vault]

[willow tartan]

a lot of them own traditional sports franchises

[next mesa]

didnt even watch the game yet 😎

no idea wt f ur talking about 😎

[willow tartan]

why dont u watch ur own team play

[tropic herald]

they put the better main tank player on main tank

[willow tartan]

tf

[idle beacon]

@willow tartanwhat? gaming orgs own traditional sports teams? O.o

[next mesa]

I was sleeping

dum dum

[willow tartan]

no the companies that own the esports orgs

[next mesa]

so spark speedran valiant?

not surprised

dogshit team dogshit team

[idle beacon]

oh ok

[willow tartan]

and charge beat nyxll

zzzz

[next mesa]

oh my god I predded that

[idle beacon]

i've rooted for charge

[next mesa]

I pred 3-2 charge LOL

wait

[idle beacon]

you did? how much did you win?

[next mesa]

my brain is actually humongous

wait how much did charge win

[idle beacon]

3-2

[next mesa]

HOLY FUCK

guys its over

my brain is the biggest

in the world

not even close tbh

[devout path]

Wait

[idle beacon]

but you didn't bet somewhere? 😄

[next mesa]

?

[devout path]

Levy I want lucio statue

[next mesa]

YOOO SMS PLAYED

POGGERS

[devout path]

Ye you missed my seominsoo name

[noble nexus]

didn't miss much then

[willow tartan]

Betting is illegal

[idle beacon]

o.O

[noble nexus]

I stand by that

it's too smart for you to understand

it makes sense to gigabrain chads like myself

[next mesa]

showcheng is honestly good

wait valiant got a point

woah

[willow tartan]

i want to see highbee play his hero

[noble nexus]

I wanna see silver3 play his hero too

I'm convinced he's not an MT player

[next mesa]

?????? best MT in the league

[willow tartan]

rolled

[noble nexus]

his only highlight this season

[idle beacon]

MT ?

oh maintank

[noble nexus]

also the only pic that exists that shows him on more than half hp

[willow tartan]

silver3 is not a maintank, he's actually a tracer player

[kind ridge]

he was?

hmmm

[willow tartan]

tbh that would be funny

make an OWL team of purely off-roling owl players

like the all stars stuff

[trail perch]

Is seominsoo their perma sombra player now?

Idk

I would be very very very happy with that

or is it just against valiant

[idle beacon]

0 - 1 wales vs denmark

[devout path]

No just fuck it seominsoo

[next mesa]

typical silver3 dude 😂

[feral zodiac]

Who won the games today

[next mesa]

spark, seoul (of course), charge

[feral zodiac]

New York garbage

[devout path]

It was sad

Nyxl looked better

[sullen berry]

peak silver3

[trail perch]

https://twitter.com/O2_Boss/status/1408753868456927232

O2 Boss (@O2_Boss)

여러분들께 곧 멋진 소식들을 전해드릴 예정입니다!
기대해 주세요!
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Twitter · Jun 26, 2021, 11:47 AM

Then this one was just funny

https://twitter.com/JinZh42/status/1408805920763564037?s=20

O2 YoungJin (@JinZh42)

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Twitter · Jun 26, 2021, 3:14 PM

Also gwangboong FUCKED today

He looked honestly good for once

[willow tartan]

and then for map 5 they fkn subbed him out

putting flora on ashe and feather on tracer

[tawdry hamlet]

it is so odd watching apac run mei cree rush

been so long since I have seen it

[tawdry hamlet]

we are once again back to this

[next mesa]

Nohill?

[raw ermine]

ow 2 leak?

[willow tartan]

tf u saving owl tokens for

theres no mvp skin

[tawdry hamlet]

the tournament skins

I bought them all so far and still have 500 just from games lol

[ivory stag]

danni looking freshhhhhh

[willow tartan]

oh wait

are there gonna be all star skins this year

or are those cancelled too

[tropic herald]

there should be

[worn falcon]

no striker skin

[willow tartan]

you mean LIP skin?

void skin?

[worn falcon]

i mean Onigod skin

[willow tartan]

sparkr skin

[worn falcon]

Chex skin

[tropic herald]

just watched a montage of taro getting stuck

[tawdry hamlet]

idek who the mvp will be this year

there are so many players who are having good seasons, but there are also so many who are having best seasons of their career

Leave for mvp

[tropic herald]

void mvp

🤝

[willow tartan]

void or LIP are going to be mvp

but also fate will be grand finals MVP when shanghai wins 😎

[candid valley]

idk if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have this problem?
started watching encore stream 6:30 and my drop rate is like ~2h for the first 5 tokens, but afterwards it goes back to the usual 1h

I had this problem on previous streams too - took 2 hours to get the first 5 tokens, then afterwards the drop rate is the usual 5 per hour

[tawdry hamlet]

there is a huge chance it will be a tank player this year I thonk

I think fearless is like the surefire pick obviously but I really hope it doesn't go to a dps for a third season straight

[willow tartan]

wasnt 2019 mvp tank?

mr jay wong himself

[tropic herald]

sadly

[tawdry hamlet]

sinatraa is a dps that was playing zarya in goats

so I consider him dps

since I don't think we call decay a tank player for that matter

[willow tartan]

i mean to be fair, the most impact he did last year was on tank lolol

playoffs run and that one widowmaker montage of a game on rialto

[earnest leaf]

Got all my apac preds right

[willow tartan]

only two things decay did last year

[vagrant cargo]

Birdring mvp 🥱

[earnest leaf]

Right teams at least

[worn falcon]

i dont want to see my preds

specially apac

[earnest leaf]

My seoul stonks shall go up

[tropic herald]

tarocookie didnt do it

im sad

chengdu failed me

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't see birdring getting an mvp, he is always just a hair short of being the best hitscan in the game imo

[vagrant cargo]

Whos better rn

Right

No one

💅

[tawdry hamlet]

[devout path]

Lip

[willow tartan]

i can see fearless getting mvp being pushed by the OWL guys just for the sake of it

[tropic herald]

not gonna argue w you bc ur a glads fan

[vagrant cargo]

Birdring>existence

[vagrant cargo]

No

[worn falcon]

Mano > all

[willow tartan]

like all the guys that got MVP were not only because they were hella good, but because they had a following

so if they wanna push the fearless narrative then 100% he gets mvp

[worn falcon]

xQc TMobile MVP

[ivory stag]

yo spit fire boutta 3-0 sfs 🙂

[tropic herald]

they should push the void narrative

void shouldve got it last year

[willow tartan]

i mean tbf last year everyone on shanghai carried

[worn falcon]

What if Spitfire beats SFS

[tawdry hamlet]

but fleta play op hero in a dead region we must gib him award

😎

[willow tartan]

(except izayaki not getting a role star )

[earnest leaf]

Fucking true

[willow tartan]

stolen

[tropic herald]

fleta had most of his hours on tracer

[ivory stag]

as a sfs fan,kinda a fan, Id laugh tbh

[willow tartan]

^^^

[tawdry hamlet]

fdgods mental capacity would be so shattered his physical skull would separate in two

[ivory stag]

^ hmmm yesss

good

[willow tartan]

who even got rolestar over izayaki smh

[tropic herald]

alarm

[willow tartan]

o

[worn falcon]

We go

live owl

[mortal abyss]

Lmao

[next mesa]

Just better

[mortal abyss]

It was alarm Viol2t ljg and fdgod

As rolestars

[willow tartan]

shouldve added a 5th rolestar like dps

[worn falcon]

striker sadge

[tired zodiac]

wait whats the score

[earnest leaf]

Atm fearless is the mvp frontrunner

And i'm all for a mt mvp

[tired zodiac]

2-0?

[willow tartan]

monke mvp skin

[tawdry hamlet]

honestly though, I really wish season 3 shanghai had a real team to face when they were at their peak, I imagine in a normal non hog meta s3 shock vs s3 shanghai would be arguably the best matchup in overwatch history in terms of raw talent, but we will never get to see it :(((

[worn falcon]

JJANGU for rookie of the year

[willow tartan]

thats what im saaayin maaan

[earnest leaf]

Not if houston benches him still

Poor jjanggu

[willow tartan]

put em on sombra dive or double shield

[frank torrent]

what the fuck is this lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

like when the second best team in all of apac was 12-12 it makes you wonder how shanghai would have looked against a team like s3 fusion or shock considering shanghai had double seouls wins loll

[ivory stag]

the high pitched squeeking on stream hurts

[tawdry hamlet]

but then roadhog stand1 moment

[willow tartan]

philly was monstrous last year idk what happened this year

[tropic herald]

I think in certain metas Shanghai would’ve smacked Philly and Shock

But not the Genji one

[frank torrent]

the encore pre-coverage has this horrible weatherman skit omg

[worn falcon]

OWL where is my 4k quality pls

thought that was fixed

[tawdry hamlet]

any meta where they could run monkey sombra they should realistically have won against any other team

on paper at least

pretty sure fusion did shanghais strat but in na instead

[willow tartan]

if we had the final 4 meetup last year for every stage....

may melee meta 2020

[tropic herald]

If they just ran their dive comp from May Shanghai would’ve smacked

[earnest leaf]

Shd tried the monkey dive vs shock

[tawdry hamlet]

Danny pls

[earnest leaf]

And had to swap after the first fight

[tropic herald]

I’m talking about before the silly playoffs patch

[willow tartan]

now im not saying that there will be another hog meta because that would mentally scar me for life

but... if there is

how much roadhog has fate played

[tawdry hamlet]

we will never actually know how good season 3 shanghai is by comparison because we never got to see them field their normal roster against an na team last season and then this season the one cross region they win happens yet again in a silly meta

[worn falcon]

Hoghyobin

[tawdry hamlet]

like can we just get a normal shanghai vs na meta tourney lmao

[willow tartan]

we will see it in the summer showdown

since no hero bans

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean I guess we kind of saw in may

[earnest leaf]

I just want to see shock vs shd

[willow tartan]

^^^

rematch pls

[earnest leaf]

But shock likes to throw this year

[tropic herald]

Given how Shock looks now

[willow tartan]

shock stop getting swept in knockouts

pls

[worn falcon]

Outlaws vs Fusion pls

[mortal abyss]

I want a shock dallas fusion shanghai tourney

[tropic herald]

Idk if Shock gets to Hawaii once

[willow tartan]

^^^^^^^^^

[tropic herald]

Glads v Philly is ideal

Bc

[willow tartan]

🙏

[tropic herald]

Birdring v Rascal

[earnest leaf]

They just need to get lucky with who they face

[tropic herald]

No arguments

[willow tartan]

shock need to sandbag and not fight dallas

cmon

[earnest leaf]

And face a shitter team

[worn falcon]

then losing to ratlanta

[tropic herald]

Shock could beat Outlaws

[earnest leaf]

They should

[tawdry hamlet]

Fusion have every piece, and then their dps somehow can't like play the right heroes because one of them is missing one in their pool or one can't do double duty

[worn falcon]

if Houston Org keeps benching JJangu yes

[willow tartan]

not anymore!

[tawdry hamlet]

basically tracer issue with philly could go away if they had shockwave

[willow tartan]

shockwave is in kr

hes play

[mortal abyss]

Yeah

[tawdry hamlet]

good

[worn falcon]

but apparently Dreamer > JJangu

[willow tartan]

full power philly we will get to see

[ivory stag]

wait i thought sfs vs spitfire was at 2 or in 3 minutes why it saying its in an hour

aye listed i redact that I cant read

listen * can't type either lol

[mortal abyss]

Yeah the philly that is in kr right now is basically the full power philly

[earnest leaf]

If philly loses yall are only missing poko

[mortal abyss]

Yeah

[earnest leaf]

The last piece to cope on

[tawdry hamlet]

inb4 philly loses

[willow tartan]

ok so the 4 matches philly plays is gzc, shd, cdh and nye

[mortal abyss]

Who tbh wouldn’t be that much of an upgrade over hotba

[mortal abyss]

Vs shd should be a good match

[willow tartan]

yea

[worn falcon]

poko be like

https://twitter.com/poko/status/1408139287229521920

Poko (@poko)

Swear I’ve seen this place before

Likes

1777

Twitter · Jun 24, 2021, 7:05 PM

[mortal abyss]

It’s good philly have an extra week off, more time to integrate astro

[willow tartan]

shanghai is playing seoul, philly hangzhou and valiant

[mortal abyss]

Should go 4-0 but knowing shanghai they’re going to get randomly swept by one of those teams and go 3-1

[willow tartan]

i predict randomly getting swept by seoul

[worn falcon]

glister wasnt enough

[tawdry hamlet]

did ivy get worse this year or has being on a worse team just made it look like it

[willow tartan]

they may get 3-0'd every stage but they never drop maps to valiant 💪

[worn falcon]

peevster

[mortal abyss]

Probably a bit of both

Worse coaching aswell

[tropic herald]

remember

shanghai gets swept on their second game

[willow tartan]

wait....

pattern???

[tawdry hamlet]

tbh, lowkey a miracle Philly last year was so good when you look at all the pieces separately this year

[tropic herald]

im sad they lost fury

[willow tartan]

so if that holds up

they should get swept by philly week 2

[tropic herald]

mano fury carpe shockwave alarm astro

:(

[willow tartan]

but

[mortal abyss]

Mano and fucking fury together on an owl team

That would be amazing

[willow tartan]

shanghai hasnt lost to philly since season 1

[tawdry hamlet]

eh not having fury but gaining rascal and shockwave is a fair trade at least

[tropic herald]

thats just the tankline we have wanted forever now

mano fury

[tawdry hamlet]

I just find sado heesu and ivy so puzzling, I cannot tell if coaching diff or regression

[ivory stag]

have they shown what owl skins will be watch rewards yet?

[raw ermine]

its like a house of cards. without the other stronger pieces, they collapse

[mortal abyss]

It’s because they don’t have alarm as their flex support

[tawdry hamlet]

like you could say sado got carried last season but when he was playing he was dominant mechanically and shit so it didn't look like it was that big of a team carry

but on toronto

[mortal abyss]

Sado going from having the best backline in the world to lastro ansj is a pretty big downgrade

[tawdry hamlet]

heesu sharing time with logix

a true downgrade from sharing time with ivy eqo and carpe

tomorrow is technically the last day of aspires contract

think we will see him at all?

[tropic herald]

just put 20k points on london

ggs

[willow tartan]

nope hes already been playing in contenders

[tawdry hamlet]

Sparkr Blase Shax, now if only we could replace hadi and ripa and I think this team could at least exist

[willow tartan]

hes on loan

[tawdry hamlet]

I know but na finals ended

for contenders

so he could be back from loan

although I doubt

[willow tartan]

i doubt they play him

[tawdry hamlet]

idk why they didn't just do a two week contract if they don't end up playing him

although don't they face vancouver today?

or is that tomorrow

[willow tartan]

they play florida

[tawdry hamlet]

if he is still around for a vancouver game he might play otherwise that is probably the last of aspire we have seen in owl

:((

[ivory stag]

put my house on spitfire to 3-0 easy money

[tropic herald]

heh

vancouver dont spend money

[willow tartan]

alright shock

[tropic herald]

ur crazy

[willow tartan]

do we see ans this time?

nope

man probs already retired

[tawdry hamlet]

no I mean if aspire is around on toronto still when they play vancouver he might get played but otherwise he won't

I know vancouver would never pick him up

[willow tartan]

come on at least once this match we gotta see sparkr vs ans

it would be a funny

[tawdry hamlet]

their org is literal chewed gum under a restaurant table

LOL

hadi ded

[ivory stag]

Stahp please he's al;ready ded

[tawdry hamlet]

the fact that nero misplaced the wall and it still caught hadi tho lmao

[fast tusk]

glister is out for fucking blood, especially on this team

[chilly jolt]

if shock loses a single map here im smashing

[ivory stag]

i low key hope they at least lose one

[tawdry hamlet]

London won a fight here come the shock washed and shock trash

[chilly jolt]

lol

[tawdry hamlet]

forehead diff

🦸

[ivory stag]

tf looool

[frank torrent]

super looks damn good to me so far this tourney, IDK where all the washed comments were coming from

[willow tartan]

Hadi...

[tawdry hamlet]

it is just memes to hate super

[willow tartan]

LOL

[next mesa]

Uh so like when's ans playing HELLO

[willow tartan]

Nero blocked supers shatter

[frank torrent]

IIRC either him or JJanggu is the best Rein in the world

[next mesa]

And why doesn't crusty like try taiyo

I'm not watching doe

[tawdry hamlet]

this is oasis all they could really play is sombra from ans or cree and ans cree looked eh yesterday

so I guess they just want to force nero glister

[earnest leaf]

nero not block a friendly shatter challenge

[tawdry hamlet]

and taiyo apparently either has internal conflict or just isn't good enough to start, either one is easily possible

[willow tartan]

London better pick a sniper map

I want see ans play man

[tawdry hamlet]

ans vs sparkr sniper challenge hehe

washed ans vs rookie baby man

[willow tartan]

yes

ok super somehow dies

[tawdry hamlet]

ok idk if it is because the core of london sucks dick or if they got better but blase is somehow looking better than I remember

[next mesa]

I thought the rumor was that crusty wants Taiyo glister but

[tawdry hamlet]

blase turnt up on god

[willow tartan]

blase got some warmup in contenders

[true hound]

Blase's echo has been p good

[tawdry hamlet]

contenders aka s3 houston

[true hound]

😔

insane blizzard

[mortal cipher]

wow

[tawdry hamlet]

ok but when your main tank goes into contenders and gets 11th in na you know you should have dropped them far earlier

muma moment

[willow tartan]

muma fiverr coach

[tawdry hamlet]

literally gauntlet right after grand finals of owl muma got waffle stomped in contenders loll

ok but thinking about the coaching that has two main tanks to work with, you got muma and hydration lmao

and your best hitscan is linkzr

man that does not sound ideal

[willow tartan]

Hadi charge from hell

[chilly jolt]

HOW DOES HE GET PINNED????

[tropic herald]

HADI

[chilly jolt]

wtf was that lmao

[willow tartan]

violet just let hadi bonk on his head

[tawdry hamlet]

molf looks like such a giga chad in his face cam lolll

I wish hadi was like the other eu rein players that just magically are cracked at rein simply by being eu like cloudy or daan but he has yet to show me

[true hound]

FAT

[willow tartan]

hey wh

WOAH 🔥

[chilly jolt]

bruh

[fast tusk]

wow

[tawdry hamlet]

shock the world black heart orange heart clown emoji

[mortal abyss]

MOLLFFD

[willow tartan]

gigachad molf

[fast tusk]

are shock really that washed ???

[tropic herald]

shock dont win control

[tawdry hamlet]

it is just one point lmao, they are definitely worse but it is a single point

[willow tartan]

it's just in their genes for Europeans to be cracked at Reinhardt

[tawdry hamlet]

and they often do lose control yes

[trail perch]

Fearless...

[devout path]

If shock lose a map to London they r hopeless

[chilly jolt]

fearless is not the best rein

[dark hedge]

isnt shock known for being really good at control

[trail perch]

Very easily top 2

[chilly jolt]

sure

[dark hedge]

or was

[balmy wolf]

bruh

[trail perch]

Fearless is a fucking nutcase lol

[tawdry hamlet]

the top rein is a debatable topic since rein himself has a skill ceiling that I would say the top 3 are close to each other on

[balmy wolf]

you have seen 20 mins of fearless rein

[tawdry hamlet]

like top monkey in smurf vs fearless

like it is so close

[balmy wolf]

and you call him best rein

[trail perch]

We've seen sooo much fearless rein lol

[balmy wolf]

literally high

[earnest leaf]

Super is the best rein, no one has proven otherwise

[trail perch]

Last year we saw alot

[chilly jolt]

fearless is definitely the best monkey

[trail perch]

This year we saw a bit

[balmy wolf]

not really