esports-discussion

[tawdry hamlet]

he is french

[feral zodiac]

Fdgod is french

[tawdry hamlet]

[plush grail]

am i just not watching whenever he throws it or is nero not using his turret

[remote siren]

Wow shock playing so sloppy

[feral zodiac]

Imagine being french

[chilly jolt]

yo where is ans

[remote siren]

But glads playing even worse

[idle beacon]

ok nice

[stuck radish]

yo space got a 3k bomb at the end

winnable

[remote siren]

If the play like this vs the fuel they will lose

[dark hedge]

y isnt ans playing

do they have him yet

[earnest leaf]

he played map1

[dark hedge]

ah

how was he

[tired zodiac]

whats shus main hero

bap?

[dark hedge]

think so

[candid vine]

i like seeing torb in owl

hes fun to watch

[remote siren]

Why not contest

You have primL

[feral zodiac]

Glads were predicted top 3

Omegalul

[balmy wolf]

playing genji in 2021?

cmon glads

[tired zodiac]

fcking hell

3 k

[candid vine]

i love how everyone spams kev is garbage buyt kinda carried that fight

[noble nexus]

3k with nanoblade and getting rolled by a torb after it

sucks to be kevster ig

[tired zodiac]

bad primal by space

*muze

[feral zodiac]

Hard not to carry when you are nanoblading lmao

[worn falcon]

peevster

nano bot

[candid vine]

true but still

[tired zodiac]

WOOO

[feral zodiac]

Dude why are glads so bad

They have all the pieces

[noble nexus]

this is depressing

[earnest leaf]

Because shock figured out how to deal with this comp

[worn falcon]

why shock are so bad

[feral zodiac]

Why u are so bad

[next mesa]

what was kevster doing at the end lol

also genji

[plush grail]

the game before this was better lmao

[next mesa]

was not it

[tawdry hamlet]

every team this season is so inconsistent and I love it

[feral zodiac]

Glads are just not consistent at all

[dreamy jasper]

ans twilight subs now 🤨

[feral zodiac]

Actually they are consistent

Consistently disappointing

[worn falcon]

torb turret carried the game

[plush grail]

my parents to me

[stuck radish]

glads are like the reign from last season

[feral zodiac]

Sadge

[stuck radish]

cant be a top team but close

[feral zodiac]

Glads have a much better team than reign did last season on paper

[tired zodiac]

no striker 😭

[tawdry hamlet]

at least glads have a shot, teams like houston will be so close but never have a shot because of their support line

[worn falcon]

where is the gengo pfp

[ivory stag]

they need more of a carry rather than just their dva lol

[tawdry hamlet]

[feral zodiac]

Crimzo is fine, who is the main supp again

[barren quest]

Joobi

[stuck radish]

also space is doing good this game

[feral zodiac]

Oh

[worn falcon]

Houston is good if they stopped to fuck with JJANGU

[cursive glen]

shock fans be like: "why are shock so bad cry cry cry" when they are legit 7-1 and currently beating a top team

[ivory stag]

space is probably top player on glads team imo

[dreamy jasper]

striker

[stuck radish]

moth

[candid vine]

omg cant wait to buy something with my 5 owl credits 🥺

[earnest leaf]

cuz atlanta took a fat shit on them

[worn falcon]

ill cry when 🐟 retires

[earnest leaf]

and dallas the stage before for knockouts

[ivory stag]

didn't look like it so far

[worn falcon]

[dreamy jasper]

agreed. like even when they win they get flkack for it

[real gyro]

glads have done nothing to show they are a top team

[earnest leaf]

Because owl works very heavily on recency bias

Team doesn't go to tourney? They suck

[willow drum]

Glads have been semi-impressive but still, Glads is not elite level

[worn falcon]

glads are consistently top 5

[willow drum]

like Dallas and Shanghai

[willow drum]

in world? or na

[worn falcon]

NA

[willow drum]

sure

[worn falcon]

APAC so far is SHD

and when they happy Fusion

[tropic herald]

Saying Glads top 5 world rn shouldn’t be a stretch

[dreamy jasper]

dont forget nyxl

[willow tartan]

No ans, win.

[worn falcon]

no sbb no win

[quaint aurora]

yeah ans needs to get used to it

[tawdry hamlet]

everyone so high on nyxl but I don't believe it yet

[worn falcon]

SBB is benched in Seoul

[stuck radish]

ans needs to become unwashed

[worn falcon]

for the eternity

[stuck radish]

then shock win

[dreamy jasper]

both maps ans wasn't subbed they won?

[willow tartan]

yes

obviously

[feral zodiac]

The best glads have done is get maps against dallas

[plush grail]

paris > dallas > shanghai > shock > dallas > florida

[worn falcon]

Now if shock hires SBB for the tracer, and sells Glister too...huh, Atlanta?

[willow tartan]

what do you think happens when you throw a player who hasnt touched the game in a year into a pro league match

[worn falcon]

or coach harder Glister

[tropic herald]

Guys you are forgetting that Glads is on a 6 ws why so many doubters?

[mortal cipher]

whos the two

[tepid ibex]

nyxl is like 6th in apac for me

[tired zodiac]

glister has potential

[willow tartan]

?

[feral zodiac]

Have you seen their track record against the top teams, it is not good unless I'm remembering wrong

[mortal cipher]

oop i read it wrong

[dreamy jasper]

That a joke or?

[earnest leaf]

You know what this looks like to me

[tropic herald]

They have lost to two team this entire season

Shock and Dallas

[worn falcon]

Chengdu > all

[plush grail]

this includes 3 bottom tier teams my guy

[tepid ibex]

they played well against dallas in the june joust

[earnest leaf]

Looks like glads pounded ass in scrims, and now are confused on what to do now that it isn't working

[worn falcon]

trust in scrimbuxs

[earnest leaf]

4 bottom tier teams you mean

[ivory stag]

i hope torb gets used fat this season so we may see a torb league skin KEKW

[barren quest]

This is the way

[plush grail]

chengdu more like

ameng balls

[feral zodiac]

Glads are like

The opposite of an extremely clutch team

[worn falcon]

glads have top players but something is not good here

[earnest leaf]

they have dpei

[tired zodiac]

WOO ans coming back

[earnest leaf]

that's the issue

[worn falcon]

maybe dpei needs to shave his head again

[tired zodiac]

lets go

[barren quest]

Viol2t and Twilight?

[feral zodiac]

Pepepoint dpei

[earnest leaf]

ana brig

[chilly jolt]

ANS

[worn falcon]

twilight top ana

[ivory stag]

im surprised ans wasnt used for junkertown

[worn falcon]

nero tier B

[earnest leaf]

nero a tier

suck my balls cuyo

[feral zodiac]

Imagine how good glads would be with a coach that doesn't hard overthink everything

Nero D tier

He is western so must be D tier

[cursive glen]

both maps fdgod played they won, shock fans in yt chat: "finally feedgod gone"

[earnest leaf]

fdgod is just eu ljg

[feral zodiac]

Yt chat degens, we know

[plush grail]

fixed that for u

[earnest leaf]

When he pops he fucking pounds

[mortal cipher]

didnt he die earlier

[willow tartan]

ans?

2-2

[earnest leaf]

when he sucks he looks abysmal

[mortal cipher]

yt chat is the worst

[feral zodiac]

Lmao

[worn falcon]

glister ans

[mortal cipher]

i swear

[worn falcon]

always hide chat

[tired zodiac]

glister tracer😳

[worn falcon]

i did on twitch i did on yt

[mortal cipher]

i usually dont look at it except for kul moments

[worn falcon]

glister tracer needs work, looks a bit passive in comparison with old sbb and striker

[willow tartan]

ans turning on aimbot brb

[mortal cipher]

besides that nei

[tired zodiac]

lmfao

why ans on volskaya tho

[willow tartan]

he needs the confidence boost idk?

[tired zodiac]

they shouldve pulled him in junker town

[ivory stag]

I figured ans for junkertown but that was a no

[earnest leaf]

Viol2t spilt water apparently

[willow tartan]

imagine you come back from retirement, get played first map, lose and then get subbed out for the next two games where your team wins

[balmy wolf]

alright what did i miss

[mortal abyss]

Someone spilt water…

[worn falcon]

viol2t throwing

[balmy wolf]

tactical pause?

[mortal abyss]

Lmfao

[worn falcon]

literally

[willow tartan]

moist mouse

wtf

i hate that

[worn falcon]

make the other players wet 😳

[feral zodiac]

Hydration sadge

[tired zodiac]

n1

[worn falcon]

now he gotta get new mice new mousepad

[tawdry hamlet]

lets goo tracer ashe shock good ol days

[worn falcon]

and new desk

[tired zodiac]

ans:breathes
casters: damn

[tawdry hamlet]

ans ashe I missed you so much 😍

[willow tartan]

ans missing??? washed.

[feral zodiac]

Can't blame them

[willow tartan]

smh didnt click heads every shot

[tired zodiac]

muze best winston in owl??

[tawdry hamlet]

[worn falcon]

no, mano

[next mesa]

the peel for ans is iffy

[willow tartan]

maybe they're not used to having a dps that demands more resources

like striker was more self-sufficient iirc

its like having a carpe

[willow drum]

I think if you want more OWL Tokens u can change the playback speed

[feral zodiac]

For a mei player u have the hottest takes in the world

[willow drum]

to 0.25x

and u can get like 4x more or smth

[willow tartan]

no, cuz u get owl tokens until the stream ends

so if ur still halfway thru the stream and it ends u stop getting tokens

[worn falcon]

i am serious, mano is top chimp

[willow drum]

ah

[feral zodiac]

Fearless is better than mano on monkey

[willow tartan]

wait wtf

i just noticed

the stream is 1080p again

what happened to 4k

[tired zodiac]

wtf is birdrings emp

why cant he trans first

[feral zodiac]

Holy shit glads need to work on birdrings emp

[next mesa]

sheeeeeeeesh

[tropic herald]

In the end this is a good game to watch so Idc who wins

[feral zodiac]

Risks getting spotted and shot out of the air

[earnest leaf]

birdring got a good emp finally

[real gyro]

was a 4 man emp

[tropic herald]

Birdring only had a 2 bad ones on KR and i didn’t watch junker so idk

[tired zodiac]

yea but its so confusing

[feral zodiac]

Junkertown was absolutely tragic

[earnest leaf]

ans widow time?

[worn falcon]

i feel they messed up https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1405714382974115843?s=19

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

We are transitioning to new advertising technology that can be used in (Overwatch League / Call of Duty League) live content.

4K resolution will be unavailable during the transition.

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Twitter · Jun 18, 2021, 2:30 AM

[willow tartan]

what does "new advertising technology" have to do with stream resolution

L

[tired zodiac]

ans time

[worn falcon]

read the last part

[willow tartan]

ans on the legs

[tropic herald]

Idk I’m not smart enough in that side of the world so I won’t comment anyways

[willow tartan]

valo time

[willow tartan]

no im asking like why would it be related

ans w the phantom lets go

[worn falcon]

i am saying may the messed up with that

[tired zodiac]

is ans being pressured to play widow to get a popoff montage lmao

[willow tartan]

lol

[tropic herald]

God Kevster is a freak

[willow tartan]

so why does viol2t play brig again? i dont remember fdgod's brig being that bad last year

[tropic herald]

Probably crusty pref

[real gyro]

korean comms

[willow tartan]

o

wait

yeah

[chilly jolt]

Gladiators literally need to counter ANS to win LOL

[willow tartan]

fdgod know frenchy

[worn falcon]

or better synergy between them

ooof

[willow tartan]

well i dont think the synergy thing makes sense

you'd be wanting to build synergy in the qualifiers so you can perform in tournament matches

[tired zodiac]

kevster rlly a pain in the as s

[raw ermine]

jeez kev

all over the place

[willow tartan]

maybe prepping synergy for double flex sup if that ever become smeta

[mortal abyss]

I finally get the kevster hype

[worn falcon]

lol, solo smurf

[chilly jolt]

you can tell gladiators are literally going for ans first to have a chance

[ivory stag]

i hate sombra lol

[tired zodiac]

how do i check if i got my tokens or now

not

[willow tartan]

yeah, ans is their main producer of damage since hes on the cree

kill cree and bam, no dmg

[chilly jolt]

when you're in the game it will come up as a notification

it'll look like it got a loot box but it will say "overwatch league tokens granted"

[tired zodiac]

ah thanks g

[chilly jolt]

make sure you're watching on the OWL youtube channel and not the overwatch channel

[tired zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lK44okqw50

this?

[chilly jolt]

yep

[balmy wolf]

alright how many deaths does ans have

[tired zodiac]

k

[barren quest]

Space carry

[chilly jolt]

i know

[noble nexus]

they just keep shutting ans down

it's sad

[balmy wolf]

ik its his first game back

[earnest leaf]

not a good meta for ans

[ivory stag]

lets be honest glads are only where they are on W/Ls cause space lol

[chilly jolt]

ans getting hard dived every team fight

[noble nexus]

this is just a bad meta for him

he's too easy to dive on all of his picks

[willow tartan]

yeah, space is the weakest player on their starting roster

[tired zodiac]

kevster is on his ass 24/7

[chilly jolt]

and also gladiators are just playing out of their minds

[noble nexus]

if it is kevster it's birdring or muze

[chilly jolt]

false

[tropic herald]

Dpei doing his balls to the walls on Volskaya but this season it works

[noble nexus]

even space

[cursive glen]

shock trying to safe my pickems running ans

[willow tartan]

who would you say then?

[ivory stag]

rip striker fuk this ans kid

[weak bolt]

Remove emp from OW2 please. Such a boring ult

[balmy wolf]

map 5

[willow tartan]

ans, no win.

o7

[tired zodiac]

🥱

[mortal abyss]

Kevster is insane holy shut

[willow tartan]

subs goin?

[tropic herald]

It’s sad that emp is boring Bc honestly the rest of Sombra in pro play is so fun to watch

[willow tartan]

how is emp boring?

[tired zodiac]

we needa look at ans's stats

[dreamy jasper]

toxic?

[cursive glen]

true dude watching a sombra stealth, farm emp on tanks and translocator out

[balmy wolf]

it wins fights

[noble nexus]

emp, kill 5 because they have no abilities

[cursive glen]

is so much fun

[balmy wolf]

button click

[willow tartan]

sombra is a cool hero

[ivory stag]

take emp out or nerf it and make immort an ult

[willow tartan]

her kit is very exciting at the pro level

[noble nexus]

only saying that because lip is the best sombra in the world

smh

[worn falcon]

the fuck smurf

[willow tartan]

idk why you guys dont like to watch macro-based comps and strats

[feral zodiac]

Well, moth was still wrong

[willow tartan]

micro < macro

[feral zodiac]

No ans, win

[stuck radish]

can space stop clutching these damn fights dude

[remote siren]

So guys

[mortal abyss]

Sombra is great to watch in proper dive comps

[willow tartan]

^^^^

[earnest leaf]

issue is sombra forces the flowchart style of OW

[remote siren]

This match is way better than the lwst match right?

[willow tartan]

it just feels so good to watch a well coordinated dive

[earnest leaf]

Farm emp, hack tank, emp 6, and repeat

[willow tartan]

like

[chilly jolt]

ok on the starting roster for gladiators id say skewed is the weakest

[willow tartan]

nut worthy

[tropic herald]

Huh

[mortal abyss]

Like heesu vs paris eternal in countdown cup last year

[earnest leaf]

skewed brig is fucking thicc wym

[mortal abyss]

Skewed is great

[noble nexus]

skewed has had an insane brig

[rare parcel]

Ans needs to warm up

[tropic herald]

Skewed on brig literally diffs every other brig in the league

[willow tartan]

or the LIP way of playing which is wasting your EMPs and winning fights with manual hacks

[noble nexus]

space is definitely their weakest player rn

[chilly jolt]

ok ok i'm not saying he's bad

[mortal abyss]

Space would easily be the weakest if he wasn’t clutching wjth@bombs

[mortal abyss]

Yeah

[willow tartan]

agree

[chilly jolt]

i guess

[noble nexus]

and even then he's playing out of his mind rn

[ivory stag]

he needs to be booted out he aint for the current meta

[weak bolt]

benching ANS wont help him get back to speed with OWL though really will it

Only play time is going to do that

[stuck radish]

space is one of the reasons this series is 2-2 rn

[rare parcel]

RIP Striker though, no other Tracer player on the Shock can truly replace him

[willow tartan]

striker was a god tier tracer

[earnest leaf]

space has gotten multiple bombs that are massive

[mortal abyss]

Yeah, kevster is kinda diffing glister rn and it’s not even like glister is bad

[noble nexus]

kevster is playing out of his mind

[feral zodiac]

Ans = lose map

[noble nexus]

they're gonna play rein here so

[weak bolt]

Got to assume Glister hasn't been playing tracer much this year while Striker has been there. So he's probably rusty

[earnest leaf]

ans ain't the pick in the dive mirror

[willow tartan]

no striker, no win.

[noble nexus]

they'll win this 3-2

[stuck radish]

iirc ans wasnt great last season early on

[dreamy jasper]

ans new ta1yo?

[noble nexus]

ans just needs to develop again

[mortal abyss]

Ans didn’t play at the start of last season

[willow tartan]

Glister hasn't been playing much this year****

[sleek igloo]

Why is everyone saying sub in ta1yo is he hella good or somthn

[ivory stag]

there is no developing a hitscan in this meta at least not a cree or ash

[willow tartan]

no, its because he's literally not played one single map

[mortal abyss]

Damn anyone else remember that 56% crit accuracy against fusion Jesus Christ

[weak bolt]

How are you deciding this meta after 2 games lol

[rare parcel]

he has never played in a game I think

[sleek igloo]

Oh so r they saying it as sarcasm?

[willow tartan]

well who knows

[noble nexus]

it's a good job this meta won't be permanent and different teams play different comps then isn't it?

[willow tartan]

he could be really good

[dreamy jasper]

he played lijang against houston in may

[willow tartan]

he did?

how did he perform

[dreamy jasper]

yeah

[mortal abyss]

Yeah

[dreamy jasper]

not well

[ivory stag]

lets go no ans = maybe a win

[noble nexus]

he played sym

[mortal abyss]

He didn’t play well

[weak bolt]

Ta1yo played like 1 map as sym, and Shock as a whole weren't good on that map anyway

[mortal abyss]

He played sym and doom vs Houston

[dreamy jasper]

torb time

[rare parcel]

they should have given Ans enough time like Fuel gave to Pine

[mortal abyss]

Yeah

[willow tartan]

naaaah, just throw him in the deep end 4head

[mortal abyss]

Ans for sure has a place in this meta

[dreamy jasper]

i agreee

[mortal abyss]

But idk if playing him straight away is the right thing

[willow tartan]

yeah, no one on shock plays sombra iirc

so if sombra tracer dive becomes prevalent

[mortal abyss]

Since they probably have only had him signed for a few days

[willow tartan]

glister tracer ans sombra

[weak bolt]

ANS played sombra pretty well last year

[little tusk]

honestly

[frank torrent]

This is already a better tournament than last time on account of Numbani not being in every goddamned match

[little tusk]

seeing ans like this makes me think Pine will be p similar

[rare parcel]

Just abuse Cree ez win

[mortal abyss]

MOTH

[willow tartan]

WTF

HUGEEEEEEE

[mortal abyss]

HOLY SHIT

[balmy wolf]

holy shite

[little tusk]

looool

[feral zodiac]

MOTTHHHHHHHH

[balmy wolf]

lucio diff

[raw ermine]

ffs

[dreamy jasper]

lmao

[gilded carbon]

goddamn

[barren quest]

LMFAO

[weak bolt]

I'm guessing the YT stream is 2 mins behind again sigh

[willow tartan]

LeeJae tower pt 2?

[mortal abyss]

He did the leejaegon

[balmy wolf]

actual lucio gap

[rare parcel]

THIS MAP IS CURSED

[frank torrent]

Casters calling out neo goats spammers

[ivory stag]

yo im okay if they carry with torb maybe then we get a torb league skin lol

[willow tartan]

Neo-Neo goats.

[frank torrent]

But no seriously can we please petition to never have Numbani in the pool ever fucking again

[willow tartan]

that nero ult was a bit premature

[feral zodiac]

He came early

[noble nexus]

moth building ult before his moira

absolute nutcase

[willow tartan]

mirror fkn up that torb turret

fatty emp

[feral zodiac]

Ok that was good birdring

[ivory stag]

emp = cringe

[willow tartan]

birdring actually getting good emps poggers

[balmy wolf]

whiffed shatter?

[candid vine]

WIFFED SHATTER LOL

[vagrant cargo]

Birdring best player in the game

[willow tartan]

idk how you can whiff a shatter on a winston right in front of u

[vagrant cargo]

If u disagree = wrong

[feral zodiac]

Roolf

[noble nexus]

only super can whiff a shatter that hard

[tropic herald]

i wouldnt say best

[ivory stag]

emp should only cancel ults not abils

[tropic herald]

but hes also like

[balmy wolf]

how do you whif shatter on a winston

[tropic herald]

up ther

[mortal abyss]

Come on glads

[vagrant cargo]

Ur right

[dreamy jasper]

these koth games are always so close

[willow tartan]

best player in the lobby i think they meant

[weak bolt]

Viol2t just hasn't looked himself this year imo.

[tropic herald]

oh hes the best player in the lobby rn

[rare parcel]

Super gets 1 kill Chat: Super insane, MVP, MTD

[willow tartan]

because if we're talking about best player in OWL then the obvious answer is void

[rare parcel]

Super fails shatter Chat: Super = no win

[willow tartan]

fkn hell

muze going balls deep

[tropic herald]

muze dont care

[willow tartan]

at least let glister lube up goddamn

[balmy wolf]

immortality

[willow tartan]

actually gamer

hugeee

[feral zodiac]

Big dick energy from muze

[mortal abyss]

MTD

holy shit

[feral zodiac]

MTD

[willow tartan]

shattering shield

haha

[ivory stag]

idk why i dislike space lol he got the biggest fuckboi face lol like idk i picture him being a typical ricegum hypeman

[tawdry hamlet]

lmaooo

[weak bolt]

Shock just seem to lack coordination as a team at the moment. They have the talent but seem just out of touch of each other

[willow tartan]

wait

[vagrant cargo]

What happened

[willow tartan]

where did muze's shatter go

[vagrant cargo]

Why mtf

[ivory stag]

like he a real good player but i dislike how he looks lol

[vagrant cargo]

Mtd

[tropic herald]

gg

[candid vine]

space just seems like a really cool dude lmao

[earnest leaf]

well fuck

[balmy wolf]

moth dps diff

[tropic herald]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[feral zodiac]

gg

[tropic herald]

IM SO SMUG

[vagrant cargo]

Did glafs win?

[cursive glen]

crusty saved my pickems

[tropic herald]

yea

[willow tartan]

Glads 3-2. My predictions are right.
No striker no win.

[ivory stag]

imagine not knowing how to stop one doom

[vagrant cargo]

LETS FUCNING GOOOOOOOO

MASHALLAHHHHH

[barren quest]

GG

[stuck radish]

fuck

[remote siren]

Wow

[raw ermine]

yikes

[remote siren]

Gg

[rare parcel]

idk Why they don't just abuse Cree

[dreamy jasper]

gg

[balmy wolf]

@stuck radish my team fucked

[willow tartan]

cuz he'd be an ez dive target

[real gyro]

calm down glads its only shock

[feral zodiac]

Youtube chat probs crying lmao

[swift moth]

LONG HAVE WE WAITED

CRUSTY OVERRATED

ANS OUTDATED

GLADIATORS ACTIVATED

[ivory stag]

wins cause sombra emp busted

[sleek igloo]

YouTube chat is so toxic

[willow tartan]

cope

[earnest leaf]

guys

[barren quest]

Shock "fans" going to blame someone for this

[earnest leaf]

this is good

[dreamy jasper]

cringe as shit

[candid vine]

@swift moth that shit was cringe asf

[earnest leaf]

Because 4-0 equals no hawaii

[mortal abyss]

Muze potm imo

[earnest leaf]

So shock can make it now

[mortal abyss]

This isn’t yt chat

[tropic herald]

[candid vine]

that cringey shit should be bannable

[tawdry hamlet]

top team loses in close game to top team

[remote siren]

alhamdulillah

[earnest leaf]

Shock do need to stop losing control

[willow tartan]

cant wait for the
"Thank you Ans."
tweet tomorrow

[earnest leaf]

it's unironically been awful for them

[mortal abyss]

Loool

[remote siren]

Shock is bad

[willow tartan]

"Welcome Back Ans" - T1

[remote siren]

Ans go back to t1

You were so good

In t1

[cursive glen]

you mean t1 academy

[ivory stag]

you say this yet they are one of the top teams

[cursive glen]

he got demoted on valorant

[willow tartan]

he didnt play at all

[dreamy jasper]

why are you so whiny

[remote siren]

Bro did I stutter?

[tawdry hamlet]

Ans was not good enough at valorant

[willow tartan]

he was still going through his valorant training arc

[bronze turtle]

I dont think shock was bad this matchs

They were 2 top teams

[willow tartan]

let him go back to valo so he can complete his arc

[mortal abyss]

Shock isn’t bad

By any means

[remote siren]

I mean compared the shock we know

[mortal abyss]

Glads are a top team

[remote siren]

Tihs shock is very bad

Shock has a gold stage

[mortal abyss]

Losing in 5 maps to them doesn’t make them a bad team

[ivory stag]

kekw baised

[feral zodiac]

Gold stage was 2 season ago 💤

[dreamy jasper]

dont think 7 and 2 means bad

[idle beacon]

bwahahaaaa

sfs

[mortal abyss]

Yeah and at that time the average competition in the league was significantly lower lol

[willow tartan]

moth better say "no striker no win"

[remote siren]

0 6 in playoffs

[barren quest]

Teams have been catching up to Shock

[remote siren]

They like houston

Both bad teams

[weak bolt]

This shock isn't bad, they're just not as good as the top teams currently

[barren quest]

More competition at the top level than ever

[sleek igloo]

Shock just isn’t in the right mind imo

[weak bolt]

Shock is still above the mid table teams

[willow tartan]

Shock is weaker than last year, but also there's more good teams now

[remote siren]

If you dont have a map win tbe playoffs

[bronze turtle]

Exactly this i dont shock became worse

[rare parcel]

I mean the players on the old Shock... Rascal, Sinatraa, Ans (came back), Striker, Super, Choih, FDGOD, Moth, Violet

[sleek igloo]

They have too much expectations and pressure

[bronze turtle]

just teams are catching up

[remote siren]

Teams caught up

Bro they been surprassed shock

[bronze turtle]

you know what i mean

[weak bolt]

Shock are also 2x champs, maybe their motivation has gone a bit, as they thought they could get through this season without as much effort as they need

[earnest leaf]

It's always funny when shock loses the same like 3 things are said

[remote siren]

Shock are like the nyxl in 0219

[bronze turtle]

Other teams are getting better

[ivory stag]

they seem to live rent free in your head lol

[tribal canopy]

Shock won something tho

[remote siren]

They play good regular season

[willow tartan]

"super should retire"?

[remote siren]

2021 shock

[rare parcel]

That's what I've been saying. Ego went to the sky and they decided to chill

[remote siren]

Are like the 2019 nyxl

[rare parcel]

It always ends up this way with champion teams

[feral zodiac]

People always say 'shock are not in right mindset', 'shock will be back later in season', 'shock always start the year bad'

[weak bolt]

Shock are still like 7-2 for the season so far

[bronze turtle]

I am just gonna wait cause losing this doesnt mean much if glatiors cant make it into a tournement

[willow tartan]

this is already past the mid season

[tribal canopy]

Its obvious that we arent dominant anymore. I still have faith in the 3peat tho

[feral zodiac]

And yet I still see ppl saying those things

[idle beacon]

people acting like if SFS were THE TOPNOTCH TEAM FOR DECADES. lol

[remote siren]

Tehy play like a bunch of boosted apes when it playoff time but pkay good in regular season

[willow tartan]

now we know every tournament is gonna be shanghai, dallas and two random teams that pop off during the stage in each region

[rare parcel]

same Ans just has to become Ans 2019,2020 and we gucci

[feral zodiac]

Shock are not bad

[mortal abyss]

I respect it

[weak bolt]

It'd only take 1 meta swing for Shock to be able to go on to win honestly. It's not unusual for play offs to be a big meta swing

[bronze turtle]

tommorow it will be shock vs spitfire if shock is that bad they gonna lose tommorow

[tawdry hamlet]

shock are not as good as last season but they are far from bad

[remote siren]

If you are 0 6 in the playoffs

[tribal canopy]

No point in denying that other teams are better then us rn

[earnest leaf]

"Competition has leveled up" "shock are missing moth"

[feral zodiac]

To what meta

[remote siren]

You are a bad team

[willow tartan]

shock could win playoffs in a main tank hog meta, but if blizzard forces hog meta to return during grand finals 2021 i will unironically kill myself

[remote siren]

Its that sunple

[tribal canopy]

They were the dominant team for 2 seasons. Which is long considering that we are in the 4th rn

[bronze turtle]

I dont think anyone id denying that but it is more of saying that shock is a bad team

[mortal abyss]

The first one yeah but the latter I haven’t heard as much

[tropic herald]

its very clear that making sidegrades is bad in owl

and thats what shock did

[bronze turtle]

saying other teams are better doesnt mean shock bad

[remote siren]

But shock are bad

So is houston

[willow tartan]

sidegrade is basically just "lose all your synergy"

[remote siren]

And spark

[weak bolt]

What teams are people actually considering better than shock currently anyway?

[mortal cipher]

3 peat aint looking likely now

[earnest leaf]

Shock literally couldn't upgrade is the thing

they had the best roster

[dreamy jasper]

So what you are saying is that nearly every team apart from Dallas, Nyxl, Shanghai and like 2 other teams are bad cause they havent even got to a tourney

[bronze turtle]

And so are you at ow

[remote siren]

Yes

[feral zodiac]

Nero for rascal omegalul

[weak bolt]

Fuel are better agreed, but who else is noticably better than Shock

[remote siren]

That is what I ak saying

[tropic herald]

well this season directly counters that

[barren quest]

Dallas and Dragons?

[tribal canopy]

Dallas shanghai glads imo

[mortal abyss]

Shock aren’t bad though

7-2 is still pretty damn good

[bronze turtle]

isnt glaidotos also 7-2 now?

[weak bolt]

Shock vs Glads is 1-1 so far this season. Neither have really made any playoff runs

[remote siren]

How many tournemant maps have the won?

[bronze turtle]

i cant type

[earnest leaf]

from the roster shock had last season, there was 0 chance they could of improved it for this year

[feral zodiac]

Shanghai, reign, I'd even say fusion

[tropic herald]

shanghai dallas easy, atlanta glads justice mayhem houston depends on the day

[tawdry hamlet]

he already said every team besides the top 4 are bad there is no point arguing with them lmao

[idle beacon]

dominant for 1 season. lucky in the other season

[remote siren]

I can name 5 teams better

Easily

Reign Fuel Shanghai

[feral zodiac]

Shock did not get lucky in either season?

[willow tartan]

they couldve paid moth more to stay

[rotund sail]

https://twitter.com/chrismada9/status/1408557883114074113

| CM9 / CMG | (@chrismada9)

@overwatchleague @LAGladiators @SFShock Ta1yo scrolling down trying to look for the last time Shock won a game on a control map ..

Never mind, his battery ran out! 😂😂 #OWL2021

Twitter · Jun 25, 2021, 10:49 PM

[remote siren]

Spark

[weak bolt]

SHD were arguably better than Shock last year too, but that didn't help them in the end

[remote siren]

Houston

[bronze turtle]

if shock is bad dark, then they gonna lose tommorow

[tribal canopy]

You would be wrong with atleast 2 then

[feral zodiac]

If anyone got lucky in season 3 it was seoul

[tropic herald]

shock shouldve bought void

[rare parcel]

idk why so many players from Shock left for other games (not counting Striker). If I was a 2 times champ I would't leave the team honestly. It's a huge rep and money

[willow tartan]

hog meta

[earnest leaf]

How is the hog meta lucky for them

[mortal cipher]

before he found todays

[tribal canopy]

Its not lucky when you win all your games

[earnest leaf]

Look at that team before the meta and tell me who is a good hog on that team

[feral zodiac]

Hog meta was lucky for seoul

[earnest leaf]

Shock learned the hog meta and played better

[feral zodiac]

Wtf

[weak bolt]

As long as Shock can stay in the top 3 or 4 of NA, they'll always be a contender for the 3peat

[mortal cipher]

true

[feral zodiac]

Why did that reply

[remote siren]

Top 3 in na?

[tropic herald]

imo it wasnt hog that won shock the season

it was tracer zen and widow

[willow tartan]

it was hog that got seoul in zzz

[tribal canopy]

Dallas is 1 in NA. Glads and shock after them imo

[earnest leaf]

having the best tracer/widow/zen players does help heh

[remote siren]

Reign

[weak bolt]

a zen/bap/widow poke style meta could be crazy good for Shock if ANS warms up

[willow tartan]

gesture playoffs hog scary

[feral zodiac]

Shock deserved both titles very much

[tropic herald]

the thing is

[remote siren]

Im not saying shock isnt a good org

But their team is bad

[weak bolt]

An Orisa meta could really fuck up Dallas. Who knows what happens

[tropic herald]

teams like glads would also love double fs poke

[willow tartan]

ehh

fearless orisa not bad

[remote siren]

And its not just the shock

[feral zodiac]

What I really want to see now is fusion vs shock

[weak bolt]

It's not bad, but his Orisa is not game changing like his winston can be

[willow tartan]

yea

[tawdry hamlet]

I just pray for fusion shock shanghai dallas tourney at some point pls

[remote siren]

The only good teams in the league are mayhem reign chengdu nyxl fuel dragains

[feral zodiac]

Orisa meta is a massive dub for shock

[tropic herald]

i want to see an apac game where shanghai gets beat more than twice in a row

[weak bolt]

It'd also totally ruin Fuels playstyle of hyper aggression

[willow tartan]

^^^^

[rare parcel]

Genji meta Sadge

[willow tartan]

the four most stacked rosters in the league

please

cmon

[feral zodiac]

Fusion

[weak bolt]

I can't take someone seriously who's rating mayhem and reign as a top team currently

sorry, mahem and reign

[earnest leaf]

I guess I blocked dark a while ago, unblocked him and I realize why I blocked him in the first place

[feral zodiac]

Huh

[tribal canopy]

Agree

[mortal abyss]

Yes please I beg

[tribal canopy]

Same haha

[simple sparrow]

Now Glads

[remote siren]

Did fusion get into a tourney?

[tropic herald]

mayhem are gonna pound if this is meta

[remote siren]

Bro glads are still bad

Just becaude they beat shock doesnt amke temh good

[weak bolt]

This meta might also be totally different. Glad's could be playing some shit nobody else is

[mortal abyss]

Bro is getting into a tourney your only way of rating teams lmfao

[remote siren]

Yes

[tropic herald]

do you actually believe glads are a bad team

?

[earnest leaf]

i'm like 99% sure dark is a troll at this point

[tawdry hamlet]

[mortal cipher]

especially for fusion

[remote siren]

Yes

[tropic herald]

i just want closure before i stop reading their messages

[dreamy jasper]

This guy is an actual ape don't bother with him

[simple sparrow]

You mentioned Reign, and Glads beat them. By logic, they could be in that group. Especially now with this win

[mortal abyss]

Noted

[remote siren]

Bro nyxl beat spark

Still worse than spark

[willow tartan]

glads isnt good, shock is just bad

[weak bolt]

Reign/Mayhem are 4-4 for the season, but you consider them a top team

[tribal canopy]

We are just gonna win vs london paris and houston and easy 2nd seat.

[tawdry hamlet]

I didn't get the maps but at least I got the correct results

[bronze turtle]

but shock beat dalas so by that logic shock shopuld be one, but shock got beaten by glads so they should be one

That logic doesnt work

[remote siren]

The reg season doesnt mean shit

[tropic herald]

wait shock got gifted 3-1 this stage

[earnest leaf]

Shock go 3-1 at worst this stage now

[tropic herald]

unless paris levels up

[weak bolt]

Reg season dictates your playoff places, ofc it means shit

[tribal canopy]

Houston can be iffy idk

[feral zodiac]

Opinion: mayhem and reign are very meta dependant

[earnest leaf]

not with daan on their team

[willow tartan]

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Unofficial_OWL_Champion

(it's shanghai)

[frank torrent]

Why are people calling Orisa meta on Day 1

[remote siren]

No it doesnt the playoffs matter

[weak bolt]

If you dont end up high enough at end of season, you're not even making the grand finals

[earnest leaf]

that's just a fact

[mortal abyss]

So by that logic, Washington were a better team then Mayhem in s3?

[simple sparrow]

You do you. Ill be here when Glads go to Hawaii

[ivory stag]

^ KEKW

[feral zodiac]

I was expecting someone to tell me oge is a god at all tanks or smth

[bronze turtle]

I will be here when LA goes to Hawaii

[remote siren]

Wahsington got a easier playoff run

[frank torrent]

Use your words I don't speak Redditor

[mortal abyss]

Oge is on another plane of ascension

[tropic herald]

oge is good at monkey

[tribal canopy]

Someone wanna bet about ans getting a 6k vs london tomorrow?

[remote siren]

Oge is a monkey

[simple sparrow]

Wouldnt be surprised ngl

[mortal abyss]

But Washington beat mayhem in the playoffs so surely by your logic they were a better team in season 3?

[frank torrent]

What's Spitfire's biggest problem rn? Shax was fragging hard but the whole team looked like it was struggling to come together

[tropic herald]

lets uh, think about this statement, and uh not do it again

[worn falcon]

oge good monkey

[feral zodiac]

Oge only good at monkey

[willow tartan]

gargoyle sigma be like

[candid vine]

me good monkey

oo

[mortal abyss]

They struggle on attack with slam comps tbh, their dive looks horrible aswell, shax and sparkr look really good though

[dreamy jasper]

🤨

[feral zodiac]

Hadi

[dark hedge]

does london have sparkr

[tropic herald]

yea

[mortal abyss]

Yeah

[feral zodiac]

Yes

[dark hedge]

and did they play him

[mortal abyss]

Yeah

[feral zodiac]

Yep

[dark hedge]

damn

[tropic herald]

he was really the only good part of them today

[mortal abyss]

He was playing pretty well at some points

[dark hedge]

and they still lost to paris

[mortal abyss]

Shax might have been a bit more consistent

https://twitter.com/lagladiators/status/1408556649015517186?s=21

Los Angeles Gladiators (@LAGladiators)

Our @moth_ow, our win.

GGs, @SFShock! https://t.co/XvxDR1l1sj

Likes

426

Twitter · Jun 25, 2021, 10:44 PM

[feral zodiac]

Hadi is genetically designed to throw

[dreamy jasper]

i believe that people in this server could make a better team than London

[willow tartan]

shax and sparkr popped

but bad team = bad bad

[dark hedge]

that london v vancouver match at the end is actually gonna decide who goes winless lmao

[proven saddle]

cant post image but lol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290584731488092160/858120071666466836/unknown.png

[frank torrent]

Spitfire support line doesn't really seem bad - definitely not playmakers, but not throwing by any stretch either

[tropic herald]

hope they got banned

[barren quest]

Kellex should've went to Mercy instead of Brig

[willow tartan]

dear bozzard

[frank torrent]

He's quoting a Reddit shitpost

[idle beacon]

so whats the next match?

[barren quest]

What is Brig really going to do against Paris's comp

[willow tartan]

intimidate them

[dark hedge]

london v spark

[dark hedge]

what were they running

[proven saddle]

oh didn't knew

[willow tartan]

?....

[dark hedge]

wait

[idle beacon]

what time exactly? or in how many mins?

[dark hedge]

no

[willow tartan]

london is not in east asia

[dark hedge]

i confused london and valiant

[willow tartan]

its valiant vs spark

yea

[mortal abyss]

No more games today

[dark hedge]

theyre both so shit im confusing them lmao

[barren quest]

Orisa Sigma Ashe Echo Bap Mercy

[idle beacon]

oh ok. so i can shut down the owl stream

[willow tartan]

dragons dont play until week 2 so hopefully this gives them more time to figure out the meta so they dont get swept by a random apac team like they do every goddamn stage

[dark hedge]

...and they ran brig into that?

[barren quest]

Yes

[frank torrent]

Yeah that was all over the front of OWCirclejerk

[dark hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-young-question-marks-what-excuse-me-huh-gif-4486363

[mortal abyss]

They ran brig so that shax could get pocket

[willow tartan]

tracer armor packs lol

[dark hedge]

y not zen

[proven saddle]

also the colors

[mortal abyss]

Still helpful without the overhead

[dark hedge]

yea lmao

[mortal abyss]

I’m not completely sure

[dark hedge]

does kellex not play zen or smthing

[north relic]

Isn’t kellex ms

[dark hedge]

i mean they played brig

what

did i just watch

[remote siren]

Also the justice were not better than the mayhen

Im not basing who id a good team of sho beats who in the playoffs

Its simple if you arent competitve in the playoffs you simple arent a good team

[tropic herald]

your flowchart fails to watch anything about the actual games

yes nyxl made it to playoffs but if you watched them play it should be obv they didnt belong there

[willow tartan]

they were there because philly got full held by the fucking valiant

[dark hedge]

i need to go watch that

how tf did that happen

[willow tartan]

they were full held

[remote siren]

Nyxl werent competitve in the pkayoffs

[willow tartan]

on hollywood

[tawdry hamlet]

ayy I just saw the real LemonKiwi in contenders lets goo

[willow tartan]

by the valiant

valiant was playing orisa comp

[remote siren]

So they arent a good team

[dark hedge]

ok but how

[remote siren]

Shock 0 6 losers pick no excuse

[tawdry hamlet]

she was in my aim arena lobby

[willow tartan]

crowd diff idfk

[remote siren]

Clown team

[tropic herald]

dark do you understand any macro of ow

[remote siren]

Yeah

[north relic]

Because valiant is a top tier team

[tropic herald]

bc it really feels like you talk out of your ass sometimes

[remote siren]

I onlyer talk about power rankings

And like how much I hate evry team

[tribal canopy]

"Sometimes"

[willow tartan]

"where moth"

"i want moth head"

LLL

[remote siren]

And how much I hate a player

But I always say I think the team cooridnation is the issue

[tropic herald]

ok why are you here if all you talk about is your hate

that seems toxic for you and everyone else

[dark hedge]

tru

[remote siren]

No its not

Itd be toxic if I hate the shock but dont hate the glads

And most of thr things I say are about rankings

Not how much I hate fdgod

[tawdry hamlet]

[earnest leaf]

he's just a troll idk

[tropic herald]

you have a very meatsports mentality maybe

idk its a little strange to me

[shadow dagger]

mirror doom god

[remote siren]

Meatsports?

I have a very black and white view of teams

[feral zodiac]

What is meatsports

[remote siren]

Ur either bad or ur good

The the crtiteria I use is very consistent idl what u talking about?

[tropic herald]

meatsports is anything that is a sport but not an esport

[shadow dagger]

honestly idk why ppl make fun of fdgod

hes not that bad'

[remote siren]

We know

But he is worse leejaegon

[tropic herald]

bc its easy to point out people who die first without much thought past that

[remote siren]

Fdgod makes a ton of aggri plays

[north relic]

Did leejaegon get role star last year

[remote siren]

Shock dont have real facilator

[tropic herald]

yes

[remote siren]

So the support line falls apart against good teams

[shadow dagger]

https://youtu.be/UkrZP8_pRss

[north relic]

He is too good

[remote siren]

You have violet trying to pop off make the plays fdgod doing the same thing

[tropic herald]

people say ljg feeds and then only bring up that clip

its zzzz

[north relic]

Yea

[remote siren]

Super gets no resources

[shadow dagger]

yeah ik i was joking

[remote siren]

Trhee swa this one play that proves shock is a bad team

It shock vs houston last point

Map 5

You see a complete failure of the suuport line

Violet is lingering when fdgod is running from spawna

Outlaws engage in find split shock

Half the team is with fdgod

The other half with violet

They lose that fight

Because the support line isnt in sync

[shadow dagger]

i don't think that proves that they're a bad team

[remote siren]

And when moth was in there was no problem

So you gotta do some ocmmon sense

@shadow dagger I would agree

If this was an occasional thing

[feral zodiac]

so actual sports

[remote siren]

But support line not being in sync is like one of the main reasons they 0/6

In losers pick

[shadow dagger]

lol

[remote siren]

So my conclusion is shock is not a contender

And they are no mediorce teams in this league

So they are bad

[supple prism]

what

[shadow dagger]

i think you came to the wrong conclusion

[supple prism]

Shock isnt a bad team but they arent the powerhouse they once were

but they still are A tier

[north relic]

Who are s then

[supple prism]

kinda obvious

Dragons and Fuel

[balmy wolf]

lets just hope dragons actually make to finals this post season

[north relic]

You mean playoffs? Because I think they are guaranteed to make it

[earnest leaf]

You all are dumb

[north relic]

Or you mean grand finals

[earnest leaf]

We're gonna get a fucking wack playoff meta

and nyxl or some shit is gonna win

The playoff patch decides all

[balmy wolf]

gigachad hog meta was fun but so horrible to actually patch in

[north relic]

Orissa will now become bastion

[supple prism]

nah, its not gonna be NYXL

[balmy wolf]

idk what they were actually thinking buffing hog so much

[earnest leaf]

That playoff patch was the worst ranked experience I have ever had

[supple prism]

if its not Dragons or Fuel then Fusion is gonna pull a sudden upset

[earnest leaf]

It made ranked miserable

Because if you weren't hog, you were perma dead

But hog was perma dead

[balmy wolf]

i just miss when hog had the fast firerate

[north relic]

What rank are you for this to happen

[earnest leaf]

I was in gm at this time

And it was fucking painful

[north relic]

I liked pre buff hog better than the one rn

[balmy wolf]

that hog was my fav version, now present hog guns feels clunky to use

[earnest leaf]

play ball? better not get stunned for half a second or hooked

[balmy wolf]

remember when ball was able to double boop

[north relic]

Can’t he still

[supple prism]

sorta

[balmy wolf]

i think but its not worth learning

[north relic]

It’s much more precise now though

[balmy wolf]

lots of precises inputs

[north relic]

It’s more precise timing

[balmy wolf]

but its not as simple as rolling through them over and over

btw is the hitscan nerf the last of the goats dps buffs?

i remember the devs doing a lot of stuff for dps before they put in rq

[worn falcon]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/CH1ej9LMlfHKfMRhSwWxEL1g79MdECUNPpiedh__t20/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/E4wRNHZXMAUvFmd.png%3Alarge?width=589&height=480

[hot onyx]

Imagine Titans get a win before Spitfire

[median tusk]

What’s the 4h skin for this tournament?

[north relic]

Not announced yet

[stuck radish]

expecting philly to clutch something

heh

[raw ermine]

I saw a tweet mentioning how if hackfist is meta, we can all just go home

cause dallas undoubtedly will win

even if it isn't

they'll force doom sombra or echo sombra

and roll like last time

[tawdry hamlet]

Hackfist heavily favors Dallas indeed literally top 3 Sombra and arguably top 1 doom on the team

[stuck radish]

what if chipsa joins philly again

dallas would go home

[tawdry hamlet]

[raw ermine]

no top sombra tho

wait

[tawdry hamlet]

Isn't doha known for Sombra

[mortal cipher]

how many maps have titans won

[raw ermine]

hotba sombra

[raw ermine]

yeah, thats why dallas would roll

[mortal cipher]

even tho london didnt win they looked more promising

then they did before

wow

[hot onyx]

4

[mortal cipher]

and then how many for london

valiant with only 2

[earnest leaf]

If the meta does end up actually being hackfist dallas wins for free

[mortal cipher]

yeah

[raw ermine]

lul fleta doom

[mortal cipher]

yeah fr

[hot onyx]

Idk like 7 or 8

[mortal cipher]

so London has the most maP wins out of all the winless teams

[tawdry hamlet]

Who are the top 3 dooms even anymore I only know sparkle

[mortal cipher]

same

[hot onyx]

Wait no nvm forgot they played Dallas and and Glads in May Melee

[mortal cipher]

maybe kevster

[north relic]

mirror?