esports-discussion

[willow tartan]

waiting for EU to start existing tbh

[hot onyx]

And Stand1

[tropic herald]

EU exists but also they are only allowed a few good players a year

[hot onyx]

Don’t forget that Stand1 got signed over KR contenders talent

YaHo or Someone

Much better

[willow tartan]

yeah they have a limit

like how many european players are there outside of paris

[tawdry hamlet]

Eu existed a lot in earlier league days before apac took over like if you look at s2 there were tons of eu players

[hot onyx]

LinkZr Kai Masaa Kevster the whole Spitfire sHockWave EQO Poko Fastro

[willow tartan]

yea im checking rn

[hot onyx]

Fusions

Logix

[willow tartan]

kellex, molf1g, naga, shockwave, shax, linkzr, masaa, ripa, vestola, dridro, fdgod, poko, tsuna, funnyastro, fusions, hybrid, kai, hadi, kaan, kevster, sparkr, logix, daan, and onigod.

[tawdry hamlet]

Bigger list than I anticipated lowkey

[willow tartan]

theres more europeans than americans

[tawdry hamlet]

Hehe

[hot onyx]

Where the fuck is Josh “Better Than Fleta” Corona on that list?

[tawdry hamlet]

There's almost more Canadians than Americans and there's two of thoseb

Wait with beast retiring how many Americans we got

Super Danteh and like Ksf

[willow tartan]

aspire, blase, dalton, danteh, fire, frdwnr, gator, hawk, hydration, jake, joobi, ksf, moth, nero, space, super.

[tawdry hamlet]

Oh yes all the backups

[willow tartan]

yep

[tawdry hamlet]

America represent!

[willow tartan]

o7

[tawdry hamlet]

😭

[willow tartan]

It is the American way to sit back and let other people do the work for them

[hot onyx]

Imagine keeping someone like Hydration on the bench smh my head

No wonder Houston keep getting 3-0’d by Dallas

[willow tartan]

what happened to CIS overwatch

[tawdry hamlet]

Most of the non apac players are specialists (one or two tricks) or backups lmao

[willow tartan]

ow league just died in CIS huh?

[hot onyx]

Alright I’m uneducated tf is CIS?

[willow tartan]

commonwealth independent states

[tawdry hamlet]

Uh like what New Zealand type shit?

[willow tartan]

eastern europe

[tawdry hamlet]

Ohhh

[willow tartan]

like the post-soviet states

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah they had a couple

[hot onyx]

There’s EQO

Used to be KSAA

[tawdry hamlet]

Belarus had a few same with umm Bulgaria iirc had one

[hot onyx]

That’s about it

[willow tartan]

EQO is israeli

[willow tartan]

i meant just in general

like when was the last time you heard of a CIS contenders team

[hot onyx]

Israel is east europe?

[willow tartan]

mf what

israel is in asia

[hot onyx]

Oh yeah

[tawdry hamlet]

In overwatch regions Israel is attributed as eu

[hot onyx]

I flunked geography

[willow tartan]

yeah, CIS is also EU

i dont think they have their own tendies region

[tawdry hamlet]

Nope

Only eu apac and na have one now iirc

I'm pretty sure au pulled da plug or is on break

[willow tartan]

wait are there less contenders regions than last year?

their website only says aus, chi, eu, kor and na

i swear there was south america

[tawdry hamlet]

I forgot kr and cn were two for some reason

Brain

[hot onyx]

Unless Australia and South America pulled the plug it should be the same

[willow tartan]

because china is big

[tawdry hamlet]

Sa pulled plug for sure and au iirc pulled plug but they might just be on break

[willow tartan]

seems so

au is still listed

[tawdry hamlet]

You could only watch sa games in the Spanish version of the site

[willow tartan]

o

[tawdry hamlet]

Was humorous to hear latin shouting after a big ult

[hot onyx]

Also why is a team with 4 washed Chengdu bench warmers kinda popping in CH Contenders?

[tawdry hamlet]

Because I don't speak any Spanish

[willow tartan]

owl players smurfing in tendies poggers

[tawdry hamlet]

I think it was Portuguese actually since it was all Brazil loll

[hot onyx]

Tell that to YAB

[tawdry hamlet]

Revival

[willow tartan]

the ramen team

i was gonna try their ramen but what the fuck its so expensive bro

why their ramen so pricy

[tawdry hamlet]

They had track apply McGravy Muma fix paintbrush and placed 8th in gauntlet which is like bottom 3

Lmaoo

[willow tartan]

i mean

mcgravy muma?

gg

[hot onyx]

Imagine if Funi practised and played for a win with the addition of Astro instead of trying to force the fun comps with a coach for your ms

[willow tartan]

isnt astro in korea now

[hot onyx]

Yes

[willow tartan]

yea fuck t2 i want fusion full roster

[hot onyx]

But if he wasn’t

Imagine how good Funi might’ve done

[tawdry hamlet]

I want fusion full roster but watching jkaru force monkey without Fastro shot calls was hilarious

Like depressingly hilarious

[willow tartan]

poko was on rein

[hot onyx]

Yeah dude

Poko mt superstar

[tawdry hamlet]

Poko got diffed by washed up s1 Paris off tank

S2 I think actually

I don't remember

[hot onyx]

Yeah s2

Paris didn’t exist s1

[willow tartan]

paris as a city was not in existence in s1

[tawdry hamlet]

This is true

[hot onyx]

Yeah if only owl got cancelled

The world would be so much more peaceful without France

[willow tartan]

why the fuck are all the overwatch players from 2 countries

[hot onyx]

Korea and Korea?

[willow tartan]

cn and kr

[hot onyx]

That’s just Korea but with extra steps

[willow tartan]

no but i mean like

compare it to other esports

overwatch is just overwhelmingly korean

for no good reason

[raw ermine]

maybe dva? idk

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean csgo is massively danish

[willow tartan]

ehhh

not really

there's 2 top danish teams rn and astralis have fallen off

[hot onyx]

You’ve got 你好 instead of 안녕하세요 and that’s about it

[willow tartan]

but it is true that the vikings are very good at csgo

the number 1 rated cs team rn is like gambit

[hot onyx]

Maybe that’s because the best players are Korean?

[tawdry hamlet]

Scandinavian in general are a popular csgo region. I think it's like mobile games and china, the region just likes games like overwatch more than they like the more realistic cs type games. I mean overwatch as a whole looks like something right out of a gaming cafe in Seoul imo

[willow tartan]

and they're just a bunch of russian dudes

CS has always been EU dominated

but like recently NA comeback

[hot onyx]

Try and make a super team of the best kr players then make a super team of western players and tell me which is better

[willow tartan]

no no but like

[tawdry hamlet]

Then c9 left and na dead again

[hot onyx]

Because imo

[willow tartan]

73% of the league is kr/cn players

that is a big big disparity

[tawdry hamlet]

Mobas are popular in Asia as well

[willow tartan]

well you dont have these sort of numbers in like league

[hot onyx]

Carpe Fleta Void Smurf Slime Alarm > Kai Kevster Poko Super Moth and idfk who else

Boombox or Kaan

[tawdry hamlet]

Kevster isn't worth it get someone else

[willow tartan]

smurf over fearless

[hot onyx]

Hot take yeah

[willow tartan]

and slime?

[hot onyx]

Slime >>>> FeedJaeGon

[tawdry hamlet]

If we go by ow regions eqo could technically be on the western team

Otherwise western team has zero chance at all

[hot onyx]

Rather have a reliable talented ms than one with a frontline tanking mindset

[willow tartan]

actually

what do you guys think this year's all star teams gonna be

[hot onyx]

And one that knows how to use beat drop without getting cancelled half the time

Plus Smurf over Fearless for pure meta diversity

[tawdry hamlet]

I'm going to guess it will be like last year and be most of the top 4 teams and then 1 or 2 stars from everywhere else

[willow tartan]

all stars is still gonna be divided right?

[tawdry hamlet]

Pretty sure like 80 percent of Shanghai were all stars last season

[hot onyx]

All starters on Shanghai got role star besides Izayaki poor guy

[willow tartan]

yeah

[tawdry hamlet]

I guess alarm violet had to take that spot from them but that's weird since iziyaki was instrumental in enabling fearless monke with his ana

[willow tartan]

they didnt want to seem biased

[tawdry hamlet]

Fucking nevix was an all star last season? Bruh moment

😭

[willow tartan]

what

???

nevix lmao

[hot onyx]

Yeah Nevix

Y’all know my guy showing off his prowess in the all stars since he finally got rid of such deadweight team mates

[willow tartan]

The rosters for the All-Star Asia Game were selected through a voting process, although Blizzard adjusted picks to ensure that at least one player from each team was represented in the All-Star Weekend

[tawdry hamlet]

Apac all stars last season were so stacked

So many good players

[hot onyx]

Good to know my Hydration vote didn’t go to waste

[willow tartan]

well thats just cuz fusion and shock were in korea for gf

[hot onyx]

Good players + Viol2t and Guxue

[willow tartan]

wait why is haksal a all star

i blanked out nyxl last year

did he play even

[hot onyx]

Uh yeah

When he joined he practically started

[willow tartan]

oh you guys remember last year's voting frenzy for mvp?

[hot onyx]

Cursed Haksal + Liberomaker

[tawdry hamlet]

Nah man na all stars was stacked bet

[willow tartan]

dogman poggers

[tawdry hamlet]

Nico should not have been an all star

[hot onyx]

Where in the lords name is Kevster

[tawdry hamlet]

Glads sucked ass last year remember

[hot onyx]

Space got all star though

[tawdry hamlet]

But space super funny Strimmer

And they'd have been voted anyway

Since popularity

[willow tartan]

what about the chinese casters vs the korean casters

that game was a funny

💪

[tawdry hamlet]

Speaking of that casters to masters is live rn

[proven saddle]

https://www.fiverr.com/mumanji/coach-you-in-overwatch-as-a-professional-player?context_referrer=subcategory_listing&source=drop_down_filters&ref_ctx_id=53be20ca7e45591b9294e23d2c019a47&pckg_id=1&pos=4&context_type=rating&funnel=a9d04a87743d7dd0a56736dc3924e9f1&ref=game_name%3Aoverwatch

[willow tartan]

oh you mean the thing they host once per stage

[proven saddle]

i found muma on fiverr, this is kinda sad

[tawdry hamlet]

[willow tartan]

muma on fiverr

yoo

[proven saddle]

https://www.fiverr.com/wizardhyeong/provide-professional-overwatch-coaching?context_referrer=subcategory_listing&source=drop_down_filters&ref_ctx_id=53be20ca7e45591b9294e23d2c019a47&pckg_id=1&pos=16&context_type=rating&funnel=a9d04a87743d7dd0a56736dc3924e9f1&ref=game_name%3Aoverwatch

wizard hyeong too

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah many coaches go to Fiverr since a 30 minute vod review for 20 bucks is a nice side gig

Since the amount of orders they actually get means they don't have to do it a whole lot

[hot onyx]

Honestly just make Muma head coach of the Glads and hope for the best

[willow tartan]

i could see a random apac team purge their entire coaching staff again

[hot onyx]

Because DPEI won’t get them any titles

[hot onyx]

“Thank you, Moon!”

[willow tartan]

[hot onyx]

“Please give a warm welcome to our new head coach, Whynot!”

[tawdry hamlet]

Ok the fact nohill is out of a job is ridiculous

Same with Diya

[willow tartan]

actually where did coach moon come from

was he a player?

or has he ever played

[tawdry hamlet]

Just a long time coach

Since 2017

Was 2018 valiant coach then team cc then shanghai

[willow tartan]

the first team he coached had fate, diem and erster

[tawdry hamlet]

It also had kariv and arachne

Current and former gz dudes

He coached a lot of stacked teams tbh

[willow tartan]

man, diem was really around for ages with moon

[devout path]

And the season 2 valiant

[barren quest]

Someone in S2 Valiant made the bright decision to bench Custa for Kuki

[hot onyx]

Kuki mad skilled wdym?

[barren quest]

Yeah subbing in a tank player as main support will surely work out well

Ironically 2021 Valiant did the same thing

[hot onyx]

Keep it in the team genes

[tawdry hamlet]

Well at least the players that were worth anything have somewhat successful times nowadays

[willow tartan]

Haha, good thing that the Valiant are smart enough now not to use a tank player as a main support, huh?

Didnt Valiant also do some funky subs at the start of s3 too?

[raw ermine]

lol can't believe its been twice

[tawdry hamlet]

Y'all remember bench lord slur 🙏

[hot onyx]

Remember when Kalios played for Boston?

[tawdry hamlet]

I didn't realize he came out of retirement for a second place finish with darkmode in may because he changed his name to provide

But the idea that slur the guy who never played a single game for valiant came out of retirement and ended up second na is funny

[hot onyx]

I don’t remember him

I remember Silkthread

But not Slur

[tawdry hamlet]

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Provide

[hot onyx]

He was on 2020 Valiant!?

[tawdry hamlet]

He never played a game, he left the team in January

[raw ermine]

he got kicked cause
Get this
he said a slur

[tawdry hamlet]

[tawdry hamlet]

[kind ridge]

that only gets you suspended dont it

and what happened then

[tawdry hamlet]

He was released following old past offensive things he said coming up and then made a twitlonger apologizing and explaining and had a lot of support

Then he retired but just came back this year randomly in na contenders

[kind ridge]

[raw ermine]

he got confirmed he was off the list of "don't sign" OWL makes

[devout path]

Imagine not playing a game on a team you got signed to

Colourhex

[willow tartan]

erster

diem

whoru

molly

and now develop too

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean I'd say colourhex earned a break after being a hitscan main forced to flex when he blatantly couldn't

[willow tartan]

colourhex echo and mei

maybe Shanghai should sign godsb too so he can retire

[tawdry hamlet]

Maybe godsb should become eu or na so he can retire when his team starts losing

Certified Neptuno and Shredlock moment

We are merely days away from reading "Thank you Fusions!" On twitter and merely weeks away from "Thank you Colourhex!"

I swear though we have had an insane amount of retirements this season

I mean every season does but it just hits different this season 😭

[devout path]

I miss bumper

[tawdry hamlet]

Still can't believe fusions made that Boston roster this year

[willow tartan]

yeah idk

Maybe it's a pension

50k a year (min) for sitting on the bench pretty good

[tawdry hamlet]

Maybe had a multi year deal who knows apparently dogman had the ability to extend and said no, which I would think some players with that option would say yes too like idk Logix or something

[willow tartan]

Mmhm

Dont think he even plays in scrims lol

just on the team by name

[tawdry hamlet]

Aside from just not being as good as stand1 who already isn't that good he was stuck in eu and only just got to na when gbs did like beginning of June joust

[willow tartan]

and punk doesn't play any heroes that GBS doesn't right?

[tawdry hamlet]

Not sure just know gbs has a wicked signs

Sigma

[hot onyx]

GBS be like:🖐☝️🤘🤞🤙🖖👍🤜🤲

[worn falcon]

Chex mei when

or chex tracer

[hot onyx]

Chex genji

[wooden robin]

are there contenders matches everyday?

if so how long

because im looking to get the contenders zarya skin

[willow tartan]

contenders china

[sullen berry]

Usually over 4 hours

Day 2 was only 138 minutes

[balmy wolf]

when will the next live stream begin on youtube?

[sullen berry]

I've uninstalled youtube, you're better off subscribing to the Contenders channel and watching on the Contenders homepage for watch time for contenders skins

Link is in the server channel description

[balmy wolf]

what?

[next mesa]

WHAT

[hot onyx]

what

[mortal abyss]

???

[noble nexus]

[sullen berry]

@balmy wolf @next mesa @hot onyx wait you guys have YouTube on your phones?

[next mesa]

yea

[balmy wolf]

i dont have a phone

[sullen berry]

Huh, imagine that

[balmy wolf]

i have depression

[sullen berry]

Huawei Mate 40 doesn't have Google apps built in

[raw ermine]

when I don't feel like turning on my comp i just watch OWL in my bed

[sullen berry]

I could download by doing the thing with sideloading but I cba

I sleep in my bed so ill hard pass doing that again during a livestream

I barely have enough attention span to get comfy and watch from my bed during NA games

Spitfire results make me cringe when SparkR hasn't even played his first match

[hot onyx]

Shit yeah need to fail my pickems again

One second

Ok fuck I’m stumped at the first match

Paris vs London is meta dependant

And idfk which basket to put my eggs in

Echo meta

Tracer meta

How much impact the new coaching has for London

How much impact more integration time for Vestola has for Paris

Fuck it doneminsoo

[tropic herald]

in theory paris wins

[hot onyx]

Idk

EU teams

Brawl mirror

Daan rein feeds harder than Deez

Naga mei underwhelms again

Onigod gets diffed by SparkR

Or even in a tracer meta

You trust Tsuna or Shax more?

[raw ermine]

shax

[willow tartan]

i have london taking it 3-2

i believe this is where they get their first win

hurricane stonks

[hot onyx]

Believe me I was high on Hurricane stonks before the season since I rated them higher than Outlaws and Reign

[willow tartan]

loll

but i believe it fr

[hot onyx]

Thanks Hadi and Milf

That’s a typo but I’m not editing that one since it’s pure gold

[willow tartan]

i have shock 3-1'ing the glads

hz 3-0 valiant

seoul 3-2 hunters

ny 3-1 charge

[hot onyx]

Uh I got Hunters 3-1ing Seoul

[willow tartan]

o

[hot onyx]

Every ounce of belief I had for Seoul is dead

[willow tartan]

maybe i shouldnt put faith in seoul but i am going to

besides its the eastern division, for all we know, tomorrow valiant 3-0's spark

it could happen

[hot onyx]

One of my more controversial choices is Hunters 3-2 Charge

[willow tartan]

u do all the pickems at once?

i do it day by day bc

i need to see the teams play

and readjust

[hot onyx]

Can always change them

Until knockouts

[willow tartan]

mm ok

i just dont do that so i dont get biased

[hot onyx]

Dude I’m not biased either

changes Fusion 3-1 Dragons pred

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/EricMPerez_/status/1407557352056893443?s=20

Wheats (@EricMPerez_)

I have never seen a pro ow player at any level tweet this lol https://t.co/evIoLen2ER

Likes

540

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 4:33 AM

[raw ermine]

thats cause you couldn't pay any OWL player to say they love bliz

[tropic herald]

ggs

https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1407730168660070400?s=19

San Francisco Shock (@SFShock)

Today we say goodbye to @STRIKER_OW. Since joining us in 2018, Striker has been absolutely indispensable to the team. Our back-to-back championships would not have been possible without his hard work.

Thank you for making history with us, Namjoo. We wish you all the best. https://t.co/vUkl9rNkLI

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 4:00 PM

shock fans in shambles

@forest raven dont look at twitter

[hollow bough]

NO WAY

[raw ermine]

retired or no?

[tropic herald]

glads 3-0 shock

we dont know

[gusty rampart]

STRIKER NOOOO

[barren quest]

Alright Striker back to Boston

[raw ermine]

I think he's FA

[plush grail]

HOLY SHIT

[raw ermine]

or at least not retired yet

[plush grail]

STRIKER???

[true hound]

wtf

that was outta nowhere

[plush grail]

either retiring

or no trust in shock

so joining a different team

[raw ermine]

ok ans rascal and moth sucked

but striker gone?

yikes

[plush grail]

shock is gonna have to step up their game

glister for sure

glister will probably be the one who will have to fill the shoes of the best tracer in owl

[raw ermine]

nero glister ta1yo

[plush grail]

imo nero glister taiyo sounds WAY worse

[weak bolt]

Not seen any rumours on Striker other than he maybe needs to do his military service?

[tribal canopy]

😦

[plush grail]

it'd be a weird time

[barren quest]

Nero has been doing fine

[plush grail]

if he wanted to leave for military

he would prolly do it in the off-season

yeah but still

i really do not see shock getting far now

[weak bolt]

It's like 2 years of service and mandatory by a certain age I think?

[plush grail]

striker is 21 rn

so no way near the max age

[mortal abyss]

Striker

Oh no

😦

[plush grail]

okay but what if

pine AND striker to dallas

[cursive plover]

no point in that

they have a great dps line already

[weak bolt]

I feel like Striker wouldnt leave shock for another team now

[cursive plover]

sparkle is arguably just as good on tracer

[weak bolt]

If he's left Shock, I'd say he's most likely bored of OW

[plush grail]

either retired yeah

or he doesn't see a future on shock

I really think it's the last one

[weak bolt]

a future on a 2x winning team, I dont htink he'd jump ship so easy

[plush grail]

yeah but not managing a finals twice

with a 2x winning team

[mortal abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/825469519178498098/857293259352047636/image0.png

Not my ss

But…

[weak bolt]

yeah that pretty much settles it, retired

[noble nexus]

I'm going to fucking cry

[raw ermine]

what

[noble nexus]

owl officially sucks

no striker

😭

[mortal abyss]

I come home from class and get this

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/Spex_J/status/1407734992395018248

Jon Spector (@Spex_J)

@SFShock @STRIKER_OW Sad to see - @STRIKER_OW is one of the best ever. Hope you enjoy a well-earned break in retirement, Striker.

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 4:19 PM

[weak bolt]

Think we'll see more of this over the season. Diem, Striker etc.

Unless OW2 gets a launch date in the near future, Pros are going to burn out

[raw ermine]

2 years service, he'll be back in time for OW2

[earnest leaf]

nofucking way

[weak bolt]

Wonder if Shock pick up a replacement, they have to surely

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/haloofthoughts/status/1407735074058080261

Arran “Halo” Spake (@haloofthoughts)

I had no information that Striker would be leaving the Shock (notoriously hard for me info wise).

If I find any information on this I will share

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 4:19 PM

https://twitter.com/NRG_Brettbox/status/1407733853951717382

Brett Lautenbach (@NRG_Brettbox)

An absolute legend, so proud of everything you accomplished. Go enjoy your well earned retirement my man. <3 https://t.co/kfCv9fHg6H

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 4:14 PM

[weak bolt]

Crusty loses his longest compatriot too, all the way back from Boston days

[clear crane]

Holy shit. Out of left field

[earnest leaf]

Ow legend just poofed away

[weak bolt]

I hope this doesn't mean they transition viol2t to dps full time

[worldly flax]

lmao

[umbral steeple]

shock not lookin too hot rn

[worldly flax]

so the lineup will be viol2t-nero? glister's gonna be benched again

[weak bolt]

Glister/Nero you'd assume

[worldly flax]

for real

[weak bolt]

Unless Shock make a big move for a star dps, I don't think they're getting the 3peat this year

[earnest leaf]

Glister will be playing a lot more

[worldly flax]

why did y'all think striker leave?

[umbral steeple]

Who can they actually pick up that'll do anything close to what striker does?

[worldly flax]

bruh his tracer is actually disgusting

[noble nexus]

if glister plays more and gets enough time to work through his confidence issues he'll be a lot better

[worldly flax]

plus he can play hanzo, reaper and mccree

[weak bolt]

He retired from OW. He's probably burnt out

[noble nexus]

not as good as striker obviously but still decent

[worldly flax]

yeah that match where he got outplayed by the sub for defiant is painful to watch

it's not like he can't aim but he choked a lot

[umbral steeple]

shock lost two of the best dps players in the league like magic

[noble nexus]

he just doesn't believe in himself sometimes

[worldly flax]

I think they (him and nero) have this notion that they're ans and rascal's replacements

[mortal abyss]

Nero does

[noble nexus]

Nero is kinda living up to it

[mortal abyss]

Idk if glister feels like that

[noble nexus]

his echo is insane and his mei as been decent

glister has just struggled being on an actually decent team

[weak bolt]

Shock have lost ans striker moth and rascal from last year, that’s crazy

[worldly flax]

[mortal abyss]

Plus arachne and junkbunk

[noble nexus]

and agape

[weak bolt]

I think shock will concede this year is a development year for them now and the 3peat won’t happen

[umbral steeple]

wait i didn't even realize striker fully retired

[noble nexus]

they need to replace agape and sign a new dps

[weak bolt]

Hopefully they don’t have smurf or Choi burn out

[umbral steeple]

didn't just leave shock he left the league

[noble nexus]

yep

he retired

hopefully he'll want to come back for ow2

[weak bolt]

Shock would have to do something crazy like sign Fleta, or why bother at this stage. Unless it’s a proven star, not huge point in a signing

[worn falcon]

ohshit

[mortal abyss]

Why would fleta sign ti shock

[worn falcon]

the crust is crumbling

i wasn't bready for this.

[weak bolt]

Was just an example, not sure they’d get anyone really

Unless decay is going to ditch justice randomly, which is possible 😄

[worn falcon]

time to dedust Ta1yo

[worldly flax]

is it too late for ans to come back? jk jk

ta1yo

[kind ridge]

why did striker leave sf

[weak bolt]

If you can’t sign a ready made star, you have to invest in Glister and acknowledge this year might not be their year

He retired from OW

[mortal abyss]

Retired

[worldly flax]

https://twitter.com/ShockCrusty/status/1407734434472677384

Crusty (@ShockCrusty)

We've been together for a really long time. Without you we couldn't make two times champion. It's so hard to imagine this team without you. Gonna miss you hard. Really thanks for everything. Good bye Striker. The true legend. https://t.co/IT7fblQVbI

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 4:16 PM

[weak bolt]

I hope he goes to Valorant and just dominates though honestly

[umbral steeple]

[earnest leaf]

Shock's chances of winning it all dropped hard

Striker was an x factor player like ans

[umbral steeple]

Bro blizzard better pull some magic with overwatch two

[weak bolt]

Yeah shocks best chance was probably a tracer grand final meta

[umbral steeple]

Way too many cool players are leaving

[worldly flax]

and moth set their pace nicely

[worn falcon]

glister ta1yo, lets goooooo

[devout path]

NOOOOOO

STRIKER

[weak bolt]

Will be Glister Nero now all season, won’t see ta1yo really

[devout path]

WHY

This is so sad

[worn falcon]

Shock can hire SBB now

if they want to dedust his tracer

poggers

[devout path]

Striker ans dps line will never be seen ever again sadge

[weak bolt]

Unless they team up in Valorant… 😄

[north relic]

did he leave due to military?

[worldly flax]

that's one of the speculations but he's only 21 and the max age for it is 28

[weak bolt]

All we know is he retired

[worldly flax]

kinda weird he'd leave during the peak of his career

[devout path]

His peak was last year

[weak bolt]

Two years on a winning team can be draining, imagine the grind he’s been on for past 3 years

[devout path]

Maybe the incredibly high expectations got to him

[weak bolt]

Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s burnt out and maybe wants to go back to Korea

[next mesa]

striker is gonna come back

[worldly flax]

or he knew that the shock's not gonna make it this year

and quit while he's ahead

[next mesa]

wtf

[worn falcon]

old but relatable https://twitter.com/STRIKER_OW/status/1388974332320251904

STRIKER (@STRIKER_OW)

fuck

Likes

5129

Twitter · May 2, 2021, 9:51 PM

[devout path]

Striker to Dallas?

[worldly flax]

but he deserves the break can't imagine the pressure he's been in since 2018

[weak bolt]

If he was quitting for another team he’d have done that, rather than retire

[worn falcon]

no, Striker reitred ow

inb4 choi retires too

or smurf

[worldly flax]

not smurf

[weak bolt]

It’s a real possibility any of the long term owl players could burn out and quit

Just as likely for it to happen to profit or birdring for example

[worldly flax]

sleepy

[fierce ferry]

Do we know why he left

[trail perch]

Choi

Is going to retire real soon

I put money on it

He’s getting burnt out and washed

[fierce ferry]

But why did striker leave

[trail perch]

He’s going to retire before he ruins his legacy

Like Diem did

[earnest leaf]

Choi not washed

[trail perch]

Yes

Yes he is

[earnest leaf]

Nah

[trail perch]

He’s not even top 5

[earnest leaf]

Ok now you're smoking

He's still top 3 easy

[trail perch]

Nope

His zarya is trash

[earnest leaf]

Mf zarya is barely meta. And his zarya isn't even bad

[trail perch]

His dva and sig aren’t top 3

Double bubble?????

Is most likely the meta

For no hero pool

[next mesa]

idk about that

perhaps

we'll see

[earnest leaf]

Void/Hanbin/Choi easy top3 OTs

[worldly flax]

it already says retired

[earnest leaf]

I don't know of any other ot that has a definitively stronger sig AND dva than choi besides maybe hanbin and void

[worldly flax]

space

jk jk

[noble nexus]

idk I think Choi is one of the most clutch off tanks owl has ever had

I'd probably maybe take him over hanbin and void if I had the choice

but that's bias innit

[tropic herald]

APAC > NA

[kind ridge]

kinda like saying valiant > titans

[tropic herald]

There’s no point in comparing either of those teams

[earnest leaf]

apac is not better than na

All apac has is shd

as a good team

that's it

rest are a 50/50 if they do well or not

[raw ermine]

man now we have sfs match day one

tracer is back

and we have no clue of the meta

[next mesa]

what the fuck

striker

:/

[trail perch]

Glister pog tracer

Just bad map last time he played

[worn falcon]

shock should buy sbb

[trail perch]

Dallas should have bought sbb

[next mesa]

what the fuck happaned dide

dude

what the fuck

bro i am literaly crying

things are not okay

[willow tartan]

wtf striker is gone

wtf

[worn falcon]

Yes

[willow tartan]

he's retired??

[worn falcon]

The crust is crumbling

Yup

[willow tartan]

????

why

[mortal abyss]

Shock are boomed to sag the least

[worn falcon]

Bready for retirement of choi/smurf

[willow tartan]

no

[tropic herald]

Yea but I’m legally obligated to be annoying because my team won

[willow tartan]

wait why is striker retired?

do we know?

[worn falcon]

We don't know

Probs burned out

And shock can't reach Hawaii

[willow tartan]

glister full time?

[tropic herald]

There’s whispers in the bushes about internal discourse between players but it was absolutely not backed up with any credibility

[worn falcon]

Glister Ta1yo

[willow tartan]

ta1yo pllays genji i thought

[tepid ibex]

oh god striker

[worn falcon]

Yeh

[mortal abyss]

Most of the rumours were military service but that doesn’t make much sense

[willow tartan]

military service?...

[worn falcon]

Korean military service

They're obligatory

[willow tartan]

i mean if he got drafted i feel like it would be an easy thing to just say

[tropic herald]

The one I’m referring to was some sort of drama involving taiyo Glister striker

[willow tartan]

but they gave no reason yet

[tropic herald]

Don’t know much about it

Or if it’s even true

[willow tartan]

super retires after this year and goes full time streaming

i can see it

[tropic herald]

iirc super said he doesn’t want to full time stream

[willow tartan]

o

viol2t cree full time now guys, gg shock 3peat

[worldly flax]

what happened

[hot onyx]

Oh no, anyway

[tropic herald]

I’ll just c v it

"Apparently, the Shock want to field a combo of Ta1yo/Striker or Ta1yo/Glister, but Taiyo and Glister are not getting along at all and it’s bleeding into some shit that Taiyo also started with FDGod. Because of the issues, Shock are unwilling to field the two DPS due to severity of the issue so they’re stuck with “sub-par” starter in Nero, and FDGods mental is torqued so he’s not playing well anymore"

Keep in mind this has no credibility

[mortal abyss]

How is nero sub par

Compared to ta1yo?

[tropic herald]

This was in May

[mortal abyss]

I’ve seen rumours about the dps line not getting along but I don’t recall hearing people say shock wanted to field ta1yo/glister or ta1yo/striker 24/7

[hot onyx]

Imagine

[mortal abyss]

https://twitter.com/STRIKER_OW/status/1407754724112175106?s=19

STRIKER (@STRIKER_OW)

Thanks for all the love and encourgment i've got when i was playing for sf. It was so great 2 and a half years. Also, thanks for all sf members and i believe you guys can win this season! And special thank for crusty, all the supports and trust you gave to me.

Also i'm sorry https://t.co/UIT1YSWRpY

Likes

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Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 5:37 PM

[hot onyx]

If Shock used the money they paid Nero and Ta1yo with

For this “Rascal” kid

[noble nexus]

hasn't Nero been good for them tho?

[hot onyx]

Nero has had his moments but there is no alternate reality where he’s better than Rascal

[noble nexus]

I'm talking about nero being better than ta1yo

he's obviously not better than rascal

[hot onyx]

Oh god yeah he’s better than Ta1yo

[noble nexus]

then why tf would they even want to field striker/ta1yo at all times lmfao

[hot onyx]

Crusty Crackpipe moment?

[mortal abyss]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/overwatch-league-midseason-gm-survey-dragons-fuel-new-favorites

[worldly flax]

https://twitter.com/STRIKER_OW/status/1407754774427017218

STRIKER (@STRIKER_OW)

i couldn't do my best until the season ends Please cheer for sf and me🙂

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 5:37 PM

[noble nexus]

Crusty's Crackpipe has been spiked this season or something

[digital cloud]

striker was their best dps this season too

3 peat hopes shattered

[hot onyx]

Viol2t Super genji mccree when?

Good thing that 3-2 Glads pick isn’t gonna go to waste

[earnest leaf]

I still think shock beat glads

[noble nexus]

If Glister can work through his confidence issues the shock won't be as bad off as y'all think

he's a fucking nutcase when he believes in himself

I'll never not be a glister believer

[mortal cipher]

it was alreadt looking like a not threepeat already

[tribal canopy]

idk it looked promising with some fixes. still believing but its gonna be really hard now

[earnest leaf]

It's still possible

just much harder now

[feral zodiac]

At least now shock can stop relying on the striker carry

[turbid cargo]

WAIT, STRIKER IS LEAVING

[tropic herald]

Shock 3peat requires a lot of things to go right after a lot of things just went wrong for them

[mortal cipher]

yeah and the two champion denys both ending in a 3-0 loss

[tropic herald]

Shock is gonna win this year is looking more and more like

I’d set your ambitions a little lower for the team if you can’t win maps in knockouts

[noble nexus]

Idk I'd be surprised if they manage to win a tourney this season

gf win probably won't happen

you never know tho they might pull a seoul

[dark hedge]

shock is fucked now lmao

[noble nexus]

they have the potential still

[tropic herald]

I’m just waiting for the copium to die out

Take a hint bro, ur team hasn’t won an important game or a map in those games

How can you be considered favorites to win it all with results like that

[noble nexus]

it's weird knowing that the shock are chokers now

dominate 2 seasons lose your all star dps players and get 3-0'd every knockouts

[weak bolt]

Shock dominated for 2 seasons, they're probably far less motivated anyway vs other teams

[mortal cipher]

yeah sad rlly

true but still

[tropic herald]

It’s very clear this season their environment cannot deal with losses

[noble nexus]

sometimes half their core plays like shit

it's weird

[weak bolt]

Other teams levelled themselves up hard, and spent a lot of money. Shock didn't really do much spending so not overly surprising others caught up/overtook

[tropic herald]

Still extremely smug in saying that Choi isn’t top 5 ot overall

People still mald over it

[worldly flax]

viol2t got away a lot of shit while nero and fdgod received hate dms when they lost

[stuck radish]

wait wtf

[noble nexus]

Choi is probably still a top 5 ot individually

[stuck radish]

striker left?

shocks doomed

[tropic herald]

They went for sidegrades at best

[dark hedge]

ye

shock fucked

[weak bolt]

People are going to jump on the new shock players and blame them, but its also a case of other teams improved significantly

[mortal cipher]

shock either are fucked or have to try harder than ever

[dark hedge]

shock downgraded hard

[mortal cipher]

theyve looked that way since texas' losses

[weak bolt]

This current shock team would probably be still very dominant vs the S3 rosters

[worldly flax]

is it too late for moth to come back to shock

[mortal cipher]

ironic how it was a questionable move to glads but now

[dark hedge]

[weak bolt]

Dominant teams never stay dominant, but curious to see if they bounce back next year (If there is a S5)

[stuck radish]

moth saw the script and said "fuck that"

[worldly flax]

hopefully ow2 is out by then

[dark hedge]

also wtf are shock doing with taiyo

[stuck radish]

japanese super

[worldly flax]

what's wrong with ta1yo?

[noble nexus]

he hasn't played

[next mesa]

shock wont be able to pull a seoul they dont have enough fuck you energy

[noble nexus]

lol

[dark hedge]

yea

[worldly flax]

y'all remember his symm in lijiang?

[next mesa]

their fuck you energy was striker ans viol2t now its just viol2t

[stuck radish]

whos gonna replace striker

[noble nexus]

yeah

[weak bolt]

Ta1yo could be grinding some weird heroes that OWL will never see

[stuck radish]

glister?

[noble nexus]

that's basically it

[worldly flax]

viol2t yikes

[dark hedge]

its been like a year since he got signed and they havent done anything with him yet

[weak bolt]

Glister/Nero is still a pretty good dps line, but it's not championship winning most likely

[noble nexus]

glister nero goes hard if glister gets his shit together

[worldly flax]

dude's wayyyy too aggro as moira

[stuck radish]

nah glister is fine

shock's support line needs to get their shit together

[worldly flax]

what sucks is the next tourney won't have hero bans so shock could've made a comeback with the tracer meta

[worldly flax]

bench viol2t and field twilight-fd

[stuck radish]

idk why they dont field twilight more often

he always does so good

[raw ermine]

fielder twilight fdgod 2 strong

[worldly flax]

twilight's not too aggro too so it balances out with fd's playstyle

[feral zodiac]

Ppl still said shock will be back after two flops in knockout rounds

Pepelaugh

[worldly flax]

meanwhile fd viol2t's just in the enemy backlines

[worldly flax]

copium

[stuck radish]

what if super becomes a tracer main and is better than striker

[earnest leaf]

shock can still win

just gonna be hard af

[mortal abyss]

https://twitter.com/cameron_ow/status/1407744488727007238?s=21

Cameron 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 (@cameron_ow)

The fact multiple players are giving up 6 figure salaries because the game is that unenjoyable to them proves blizzard have fucked this game beyond belief

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Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 4:56 PM

[worldly flax]

[willow tartan]

watch them still put viol2t over glister on dps

[digital cloud]

never heard of burnout I guess

imagine getting tired of playing a game for 10 hours a day every day, one that isn't obscenely simple like cs

[willow tartan]

you think cs is simple?

smh

[digital cloud]

It is hard at top level but the fundamentals are much simpler in comparison

They have like, three kinds of util basically, that ain’t shit

[willow tartan]

were you not talking about the professional level

[digital cloud]

It is hard to play against someone like s1mple

It is still a very basic approach to the game

[feral zodiac]

It's more basic than overwatch

But most games are

Fps games*

[willow tartan]

so... shock 3peat? haha.

[hot onyx]

Not unless they field Twilight over Viol2t

[earnest leaf]

?

[willow tartan]

i dont know if twilight has been consistently good or if they've only been sending out twilight in situations where he will play good

[earnest leaf]

Viol2t still the best FS in the world

unless ana is meta, swapping him won't be the best

[willow tartan]

feels like for the most part twilight has been more consistent than viol2t but also smaller sample size

[earnest leaf]

https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1407775466413432836

San Francisco Shock (@SFShock)

The return of the king 👑

Welcome back to the Shock fam, @ansansniper__

(pending league approval) https://t.co/DGVDEO3HfZ

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 7:00 PM

gg shock win

[willow tartan]

WGHAT

bait?

[earnest leaf]

NAH GG

[digital cloud]

no way

[earnest leaf]

SHOCK WIN

[feral zodiac]

Shock win

[willow tartan]

?????????????

WHAT

[feral zodiac]

Fucking hell shock win

[earnest leaf]

GG

GG

GG

[feral zodiac]

Literally not even close

Flame careful of mute

[raw ermine]

NO FUCKING WAY

IN THIS MOTHERFUCKING UNIVERSE

NOT A FUCKING CHANCE

[tropic herald]

huh

[bold scarab]

Uhhhh

[digital cloud]

no fucking way

[bold scarab]

Soo what's going on

[feral zodiac]

Are shock legit just going to cycle players in and out of retirement

Cus that is mega big brain

[tropic herald]

ggs

shock 3peat inc

[shadow dagger]

YO HOLD ON WHAT TEH FUCK HAPPENED HERE

??????????????????????????????????

[stuck radish]

lmao nvm

[raw ermine]

brb gotta change pickems again

[digital cloud]

a small price to pay for salvation

[stuck radish]

shock no longer doomed

but what happens with glister

[digital cloud]

dropped

[stuck radish]

glister might become tracer player

[earnest leaf]

makes them good again for double hitscan

[next mesa]

holy shit

[digital cloud]

this is fake though right

[earnest leaf]

a soul for a soul

[green dust]

ANS IS BACK

[shadow dagger]

im losing it

[green dust]

with the shock wtf

[stuck radish]

a seoul for a seoul

[shadow dagger]

im actually dying

[next mesa]

no this makes no sense

wait

if ans was coming back

why would striker leave

did he know this

[tired zodiac]

shock gonna get the three peat 🦾

[raw ermine]

I think I didn't wake up today

[feral zodiac]

Retirement cycle

[raw ermine]

might have died in my sleep

[feral zodiac]

Big brain shit

[next mesa]

striker should know that if ans comes back its ez 3peat

what the fuck is happening bro

[feral zodiac]

Give players a break then bring them back

Without paying them

[tired zodiac]

yea thats what i ws thinking

or just reserving them

[stuck radish]

shock's motto "Shock the world" really coming into play today

[tired zodiac]

for when they need them next year

[willow tartan]

https://twitter.com/T1/status/1407776272378482690

T1 (@T1)

Today, we say goodbye to @Ansansniper__ and wish him the best of luck in his return to @Overwatchleague with the @SFShock. 🤘

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 7:03 PM

[earnest leaf]

this is some fucking whiplash

[tired zodiac]

so they dont get drafted somewhere else idk

[earnest leaf]

Also ans realized valorant boring

and he wants to bully owl again

[willow tartan]

ans got signed to play valorant and then literally didnt play 1 match

[green dust]

ANS IS BACK HOLY SHIT LOL

[earnest leaf]

You know what the good thing is about this

[stuck radish]

dude

[willow tartan]

for like the what, 8 months he was signed?

[stuck radish]

poor moth

[earnest leaf]

Ans can be slotted right back into the team

[next mesa]

WE WONT BE ABLE TO SEE ANS TRIKER BRO

FUCK

FUCK FUCK FUCK

[earnest leaf]

But we get ans/glister now dude

[stuck radish]

maybe next year

[kind ridge]

yooooooooooooo

[willow tartan]

Striker released because shock needed money for ans

[tired zodiac]

i wanted to see more of glisters hitscan thoo

[willow tartan]

yea

[worn falcon]

Babybay to ratlanta when

[willow tartan]

glister goes back to being permabenched hell

sadge

[tired zodiac]

aw man

[willow tartan]

he's played like 2 maps this season lolol

[next mesa]

BRO

[mortal abyss]

WHATBTHE FUCK

[next mesa]

WHAT THE FUCK

WHY

STRIKER PLZ

[mortal abyss]

HWTATAT

[next mesa]

:(((

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 LET US STRIKER ANS PLZ

[willow tartan]

ans o7

[devout path]

ANS BACK ANS BACK

[worn falcon]

Ans vs pine

Pls

[devout path]

SHOCK WIN GG

[stuck radish]

2 hours later: "Welcome back Striker!"

[next mesa]

we better bro what the fuck

[tired zodiac]

LOL

[devout path]

Shock just picks back up rascal too

And architect

[mortal cipher]

please sat sike

[worn falcon]

And sinatraa

[stuck radish]

shock should just buy every good hitscan player in the league

[earnest leaf]

Sorry owl

[worn falcon]

And nevix

[stuck radish]

force every team to play double proj

[earnest leaf]

king has returned

[willow tartan]

nah, sinatraa actually plays valo

[devout path]

Ans is back 😍

[mortal cipher]

not possible

[devout path]

The king is back

[feral zodiac]

Shock just picks up danteh

[worn falcon]

Nah sbb

[feral zodiac]

Sbb my balls

[next mesa]

strikerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[stuck radish]

how funny would it be if shock 3-0 glads

[mortal abyss]

Idek how to feel

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-crying-tears-sad-emotional-gif-15881815

[worn falcon]

And drops ta1yo

[next mesa]

STRIKERRRRRRRRRRRRR

WE WERE SO CLOSE TO GREATNESS

STRIKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[mortal abyss]

Ughhhhh

[next mesa]

FUCK

FUCK

[willow tartan]

now if only diem come back

[next mesa]

THIS FUCKING SACRIFICE

[tired zodiac]

ok question

[willow tartan]

but his done with overwatch for good

[tired zodiac]

whats gonna happen to taiyo

hes been permabenched for so long

[willow tartan]

taiyo doesnt have the same hero pool as ans

[true hound]

shock fans on a rollercoaster

[stuck radish]

we just need

[feral zodiac]

@foggy dew nah

[stuck radish]

a tracer player

but glister might pick up tracer

[willow tartan]

maybe

[feral zodiac]

Tay1o tracer

Pog

[willow tartan]

wait yeah

[earnest leaf]

Glister plays tracer

so does nero

[mortal cipher]

did he say for good

[earnest leaf]

They're fine

[mortal abyss]

When glister played tracer in maylee…..

[noble nexus]

I'm on a literal emotional rollercoaster

wtf is going on

[worn falcon]

So glister ans?

[willow tartan]

well done with competitive overwatch for good

[noble nexus]

I'm in shambles

[mortal cipher]

idbk anymore

[mortal abyss]

It was uh

[earnest leaf]

Glister ran tracer for one map when they wanted to go widow

[worn falcon]

Nero ans?

[next mesa]

STRIKER DUDE

I AM IN SHAMBLES AS WELL

FUCK ME

[noble nexus]

lmfao

nty

but

Idk what to do

cry or laugh

[mortal cipher]

ah he might change that but i believe usually when someone says their done theyre done

[noble nexus]

or just cry laugh

[stuck radish]

we lost rascal architect moth and now striker

sadge

[tired zodiac]

im excited

[stuck radish]

moth come back when

[willow tartan]

i dont exactly know what he said since im not korean but in his retirement video it goes something like him being too stressed out and scared of failing

[tired zodiac]

fd god n moth trade ws good imo

[noble nexus]

nah owl forced striker to retire because they couldn't have ans striker back in the league

it'd be too easy

[mortal cipher]

usaully when they say that they mean it

[balmy wolf]

Traded to boston next season

[stuck radish]

moth fits in better

he helps viol2t a lot more

[mortal cipher]

yeah thats wot i saw

[noble nexus]

moth is better for the shock

fd is coachable tho

[mortal cipher]

and ans only retired because of health issues

[willow tartan]

could be a translation error but iirc he said he was also getting a lot of pressure and hate from fans

[noble nexus]

he just doesn't know what the S key is yet

[mental vine]

AT least we have ANS

[mortal abyss]

Platchat missing this lmfaoo

[stuck radish]

platchat is in shambles

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/T1/status/1407776272378482690

T1 (@T1)

Today, we say goodbye to @Ansansniper__ and wish him the best of luck in his return to @Overwatchleague with the @SFShock. 🤘

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 7:03 PM

[mental vine]

i bet its that widowmaker skin that made him wanna come back XD

[mortal abyss]

Shock can somewhat revert to their old play style now trying to enable ans

[mortal cipher]

yeah he said he had a lot of pressure of failing and was afraid of disapoining them

[stuck radish]

just devote all resources to ans

[balmy wolf]

who is T1

did he even play

[fierce ferry]

Lmao shock shocking us real heard

[digital cloud]

plat chat gonna miss the announcement lol

[stuck radish]

shock wins grand finals

[mortal cipher]

not sure

[mental vine]

f*** ans going to valorant he is going where he belongs

[willow tartan]

like remember people were dogging on diem all throughout the szn before he popped the fk off during grand finals

severely underrating

[earnest leaf]

I said that shock lost a big x factor in striker

but now ans is back

so fuck

[willow tartan]

ANS is a carry

[mental vine]

now that ans is here its basically Ans vs Pine

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/fuckitseominsoo/status/1305858094799429633?s=20

fuck it seominsoo (@fuckitseominsoo)

Me too ANS, me too.
https://t.co/9sbcBYYQam https://t.co/oA9W9XhnVz

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Twitter · Sep 15, 2020, 1:16 PM

[mortal cipher]

yeah tbf shd were uhh

[willow tartan]

dont compare ANS to pine

[willow tartan]

ans >

[stuck radish]

ans > pine

[noble nexus]

^^^

facts

[tired zodiac]

amen

[noble nexus]

literal facts

[earnest leaf]

Ans is the best widow

[fierce ferry]

Ye

[earnest leaf]

there is no argument

[mortal cipher]

ans and pine are two beeg widows of different seasons but ans is more insane

[next mesa]

i want to cri

[willow tartan]

pine hasnt been in a competitive environment for like 3 years before he got picked up

[mortal abyss]

Ans didn’t get treated well on T1

[fierce ferry]

What did they do