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mortal abyss
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What a chad

devout path
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Told you

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That’s echo right

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Wait nvm

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Who tf is that

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Junk?

raw ermine
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yeah

trail perch
worn falcon
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no

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thats TTuba

devout path
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I’m actually the best player in the world

noble nexus
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nah I think I am tbh

worthy tinsel
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wait is ttuba even still in the league

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haven’t seen him play

worn falcon
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yesh

raw ermine
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he is just benched

worn falcon
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when you have decay, jerry and assasssssssin

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you bench ttuba

worthy tinsel
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why’d they even keep him

worn falcon
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because gengo god

worthy tinsel
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true but can’t assassin and decay play genji too?

noble nexus
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he also apparently improved a lot during the offseason

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Ttuba is a better genji

tropic herald
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bro kevster

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😳

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looks like younger moth

earnest leaf
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He looks like the average white dude

raw ermine
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best reaction ever

plush grail
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PARIS KEEPS WINNING

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FLETA WHO??

earnest leaf
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his mei was never a big hero for him iirc

plush grail
earnest leaf
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fleta

plush grail
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still

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ez clap

next mesa
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ur telling me neros the second best mei in the league

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nah

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also fleta was nice mei doe

worn falcon
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Nah, top Mei is Rascal

shadow dagger
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srry for repost

tropic herald
worn falcon
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When he was with Shock

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He was like nuts with her

plush grail
tropic herald
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I’d def say rascal is more known for his Mei

tropic herald
next mesa
tropic herald
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It’s also worth noting the only hero lists worth looking at are the meta ones

tropic herald
plush grail
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i posted it like a few minutes ago

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u good??

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void who???

tropic herald
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I’m sorry I do this thing called don’t read every message in existence

plush grail
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daan has 5x his fucking score

plush grail
tropic herald
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What’s the play time on void hog

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Oh yeah 5 seconds

plush grail
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still won

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ez

tropic herald
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Also Daan isn’t even on the rein top 10

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Zzzz

plush grail
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check the ana rankings

tropic herald
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Bebe better than Kaan btw

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Mald

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I don’t take any of these power rankings seriously except for like monkey Lucio dva and echo doe

tropic herald
devout path
next mesa
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sugarfree is an absolute fucking beast

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players like him is y ppl dont like age limit

sullen berry
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MOLANRAN BASTION

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He's too good per 10 mins @raw ermine

raw ermine
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legit cracked

round pine
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who has contender skins this month?

gaunt acorn
coral patrol
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Hello

raw ermine
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👋

tropic herald
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chengdu dropped kaneki

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picked up tarocookie

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no tweet though

earnest leaf
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has weibo link in there

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I think so at least

lucid ermine
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.

tropic herald
willow tartan
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man, eastern division really fuckin loves changing coaches

noble nexus
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Apac keep the same coaching team for more than half a minute challenge

true osprey
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Lmao

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Fleta bullying in real life as he bullies in game 😭

mortal abyss
earnest leaf
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that's void I think

willow tartan
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Void and Fearless?

balmy wolf
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thats why fearless left shanghai

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oh boy

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im regular

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thats cool

hot onyx
balmy wolf
hot onyx
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The Atlanta fan gets regular before me

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The only way this day could get worse is if my favourite Chengdu Hunters fdps Kaneki departed from the team

balmy wolf
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oh boy

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poor guy

plush grail
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marbel does not need regular

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he needs therapy

balmy wolf
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i do

plush grail
balmy wolf
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i hope so

hot onyx
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nnnnnnnnNNNNOOOOOO

tawdry hamlet
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Good kaneki and Jimmy imo weakest parts of that team after elsa

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Ameng is bench man so he isn't counted

plush grail
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ameng is funny ball man

tawdry hamlet
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It's funny too because he isn't even as good as other balls anymore

plush grail
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he legit went from forcing a ball meta in apac

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to bench boy

hot onyx
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Kaneki was the silent carry of the Hunters

balmy wolf
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on the bench

hot onyx
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and now the team will be taken to 5 maps by the Valiant

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scheduled to play right after they get boomed 3-0 by Philly

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poog

willow tartan
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valiant won't go winless??

hot onyx
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heck no

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i said they take Hunters to a map 5

toxic perch
plush grail
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isnt that the vid that made yeatle a meme for a few weeks

toxic perch
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especially since Fearless and Fate were able to play decent ball with little preparation

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did it?

plush grail
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i remember seeing tons of people clowning on him

toxic perch
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makes sense, Chengdu and Ameng are popular

plush grail
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also unless you are like crusty or moon

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u really cant coach a owl player

toxic perch
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eh

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Yeatle is one of the few exceptions

noble nexus
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yeah

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yeatle, a ranked shitter, tried to coach an owl ball otp

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owl and ranked are nothing alike

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ball is played so differently between the two

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yeatle would get absolutely tossed if he tried to play ball in owl

plush grail
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^^

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ameng might be seen as a meme

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but guy still gets tons of coaching

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a random ball ladder player can't teach ameng shit

noble nexus
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he plays ball super well for how well owl teams punish bad positioning and stuff like that

toxic perch
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with all respect, I do think a 4.6 ball player can at least vod review OWL players

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he doesnt hold up to OWL as a player himself but that doesnt mean he doesnt understand Ball in team-based scenario

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watching the vid he raised some valid points

noble nexus
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he's never played ball against the teams and players ameng does I really don't think ball is played the same between owl and ranked

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he can vod review ofc

toxic perch
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but hes a spectator

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even I with barely 4.3 peak mt can judge tank plays when I'm just watching them

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doesnt mean I could ever perform as a player

noble nexus
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thats

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my point?

toxic perch
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huuh

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but how come Yeatle is unqualified to make a video on Ameng then

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he doesnt have all the insight, but hes able to make a fair assessment no

noble nexus
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I just think the way ball is played so differently between ranked and comp makes it hard to give a fair assessment to someone who plays ball in owl if you've never played it at the level yourself

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he can make a somewhat fair assessment

toxic perch
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bet

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you dont hear comms, you dont know what coach said pre-game

noble nexus
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I think ball is like the only hero like that tho tbh

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ranked balls turbo int and it gets them value

toxic perch
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but criticizing Amengs airtime when playing against Sombra is nothing but correct

noble nexus
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yeah that's 100% true

toxic perch
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ranked is more solo-play oriented u___u

noble nexus
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some of his points are a bit weird tho iirc

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yeah

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ball is kinda just good for eating cc in owl

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and disrupting play for you team to engage

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like how ameng caught mano at the start of that round

toxic perch
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its funny how ball is the only hero who does that

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like hes from a different game

noble nexus
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ball is corny asf tbh

toxic perch
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ahahahah

noble nexus
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he's kinda fun but I just hate how much he boops me around constantly

toxic perch
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I agree so much

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Im just happy Rein got the steadfast passive

next mesa
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whos tarocookie?

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hes a hitscan?

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ayt

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someone shuold sign pineapple

sullen berry
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Taro is hitscan

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Stylised with a 1

next mesa
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kinda weird to replace kaneki with a hitscan

sullen berry
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Pineapple would make suitable competition for MyKaylee

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Isn't chengdu just a weird team in general?

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They've obviously sounded a lot more comfortable if you've read the interview with Leave

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Probably gearing up for double hitscan during summer showdown meta

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or jinmu needing a new dps duo

next mesa
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well they could've ran jimmy leave

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leave tarocook1e maybe

sullen berry
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I'm as confused as you are, but is it worth replacing kaneki instead of dropping Farway1989

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5dps roster how about it

next mesa
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farway has been pretty good on the team though

sullen berry
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Rather keep my eyes on Apr1ta

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You can't tell me the stars could not align more for a liquipedia profile with $8888 in winnings

next mesa
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apr1ta has been owl level since like last year at least

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but apparently he wont turn 18 before s5

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so

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its like

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:(

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maybe chengdu bring him in mid season

sullen berry
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When is his bday

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Now that sparkr is old I need a new countdown to follow

dark ferry
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hi

mortal abyss
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Countdown to sugarfrees bday

next mesa
tropic herald
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Goated players to wait for

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Apr1ta Sugarfree Proper Ultraviolet Ojee

forest raven
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Ojee's still under 18?

tropic herald
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Yea

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He turns 18 before the season ends but I doubt he gets picked up for this season

next mesa
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Sugarfree went to Valorant

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this is what happens when u have age limit

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u use sugarfree and patiphan

tropic herald
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But also imagine last year if honestands were a thing

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You have a 16 year old on a team, who is not at school ever and is traveling around the world

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They are not being set up for success when they inevitably fall out of the league

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And all the legal parts of managing a minor in that situation

feral zodiac
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16 year old school dropout, what they gonna do after their ow career is done

next mesa
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i dont think they would be at school either like apr1ta im sure he just plays ow 8 hours a day

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so like might as well

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idk something esports related

feral zodiac
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Esports careers don't pay well unless they're the players or (possibly) the casters/coaches

tropic herald
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There’s no longevity to esports careers rn and if you go into one with not even a high school diploma you are gonna be fucked when you suddenly don’t have a job anymore

next mesa
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yeah i get it

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my point is just that okay if you take sparkle for example like im sure he's playing virtually the same amount of OW rn than he was in EM

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now we dont know if he finished his hs diploma but like its probably not a big difference

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although if u have to move thats a different story

tropic herald
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The kids that were picked up before they turned 18 iirc were all doing online school those last few months

next mesa
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thats good thats good

hot onyx
next mesa
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wish we could've seen sugarfree in owl

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well there might still be a small chance

worn falcon
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Sugarfree is retired

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No sugar for him

ancient flax
tough wharf
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Sugafree is retired but playing for Fusion uni

next mesa
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he says he is only coming back temporarily to help out the fusion boys

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lol

tough wharf
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they sure need help, they are playing british hurricane in an hour

raw ermine
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not a bad pool

hot onyx
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KINGS ROW

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GIBRALTAR

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NO

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MORE

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NUMBANI

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EVERY

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TIME

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THANK YOU PRODUCTION

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when are we gonna get a 6th control map to fill out that empty space?

raw ermine
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OW2

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hopefully

devout path
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Gibraltar and junkertown?

idle gorge
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Has pine played for Dallas yet?

devout path
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Damn ig we only playing Route 66

devout path
idle gorge
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Oh with visa and stuff

willow tartan
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man, fusion university is getting thrashed.

mortal abyss
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jkaru doesnt know how to press h

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hes hamstringing this team si badly

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*so

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well as i say that

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orisa time

willow tartan
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I wanna see shockwave farm hybrid cmon

mortal abyss
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i love shockwave so much

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did you see that

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holy

devout path
willow tartan
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shockwave pogging

mortal abyss
willow tartan
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why would sugar free ult there

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half his team wasn't in range

mortal abyss
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he was supposed to get lamped

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but boombox was late

willow tartan
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the pharah ult from the heavens on point a defense was supposed to be lamped?

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or was he low enough to get caught? I'm not too sure

mortal abyss
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you could see after there was a lamp ontop of the bunker for him

next mesa
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falcon esports is like dominating whats going on

true osprey
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fr

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ksaa is so good

next mesa
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oho my god nkz

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insane gamer

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grathen looks bad

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asking is kinda dunking on him

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ksaa got TWO of his ults cancelled

plush grail
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wait wtf isn't this super early

earnest leaf
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july 29th is near the end of the season

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seems pretty late to me

plush grail
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are we already that far into the season

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sadge

earnest leaf
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countdown cup will be the last tourney cycle before the playoffs

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We're about halfway though atm

next mesa
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anj's beat was questionable

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but Asking is so fucking good

next mesa
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what the fucking hell

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good job mods

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or admins

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i have no idea

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anyways sheeeesh

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Asking>>>> grathen

trail perch
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I deadass cried when his deal fell through in 2019

frosty shell
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2 and 0 wtf

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lmao

willow tartan
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aspire my boi farming

gilded carbon
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Rip odd o see

earnest leaf
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asking is never getting into owl

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
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unfortunately might be true

tawdry hamlet
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Probably is, nobody gives fuck about eu dps unless they're like the best in the world

trail perch
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End the sentence there

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no one cares about eu dps

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cause they arent the best in the world

next mesa
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whos gonna take asking over like mn3

tawdry hamlet
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Who's gonna take asking over literally any apac hitscan

next mesa
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Asking is pretty fricking good doe id take asking over like

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anyone else thats not korean or chinese

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maybe hydron

earnest leaf
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No team wants a player who has retired 18 times kekw1

tawdry hamlet
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I mean if my owl deal fell through and I thought I'd made it I'd probably retire too

next mesa
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fr

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unlucky

tawdry hamlet
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Idk how people like lullsish find the energy to keep playing the game after all the visa hell monkaS

earnest leaf
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Some people just enjoy competing

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And playing the game in general

tawdry hamlet
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Exactly though, he wasn't doing any competing then lmao

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Wish he wasn't on falcons though that org sucks ass 😭

next mesa
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wasnt it that fucking dogshit org that fired a manager for being trans

tawdry hamlet
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Yes

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Saudi orgs be Saudi orgs I guess. Just sucks they bought the best Eu t2 team spot

hot onyx
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Fuck discrimination, all my homies hate discrimination

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
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This message is brought to you by a guy who is not a minority but flirted with a trans girl one time and has a bi best friend

devout path
hot onyx
# devout path imagine flirting couldnt be me

Ah yes Lily, your tactic of humping somebody’s leg like a dog until they give consent is much more effective and totally not a viable strat for your “get thrown into jail” speedrun any%

tropic herald
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yoooooooooooooooo talk about esports speedrun any% glitchless pls

hot onyx
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Deez

earnest leaf
hot onyx
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Talk about Deez

worn falcon
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Contenders China?

hot onyx
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An hour long conversation about the impact that Kaneki had on the Hunters and how they’re gonna fall off without him?

tawdry hamlet
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Why'd he even get let go again?

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Wait darkmode beat noble??

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Letsfucking goooo

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Aspen finally seeing success

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Third na t2 is the best she's gotten so far I think

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Assuming darkmode magically defeat odyssey she could be looking at 2nd na monkaS

tropic herald
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farinfir was the coach who filled in when cowman had to play tracer in gauntlet and still beat the ex owl revival team LOL

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thoughts?

tawdry hamlet
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What about it

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Also ex owl revival was fucking tragic

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Because apply isnt a bad dps actually 😭

tropic herald
earnest leaf
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shock losing to glads I assume?

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wait dallas going 2-2

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Toronto/Houston/Florida/Reign

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3-1 at the worst imo

tropic herald
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I have a feeling Dallas aren’t gonna be too hot at whatever is next

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Probably an Orisa comp

earnest leaf
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They do get pine presumably at least

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But I think they can force their dive vs most teams still

tropic herald
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We have no metric to show us how good pine is

earnest leaf
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I'm gonna assume around upper mid tier

tropic herald
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Also reign will probably beat Dallas

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And Florida could probably mirror the dive and make it a coin flip

earnest leaf
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Eh, I think Atlanta's best shot at beating dallas was this previous meta and they couldn't

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Unless we get a HARD double shield poke meta

tropic herald
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Imo that’s where the main meta goes

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Obv Dallas just forces monkey

earnest leaf
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also atm I think toronto/houston/florida are free wins for them

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But it all depends on the meta

tropic herald
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I really don’t think florida are a free win

worn falcon
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Depends which heros are banned this time

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Please be Echo

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Im tired of Echo

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I want to see Mei players

next mesa
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So like when is pineapple getting signed

next mesa
next mesa
tawdry hamlet
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Coulge for Vancouver OmegaLUL

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Coulge papayapete just go for all the na t2 and see how they do hehe

next mesa
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Sign AT they'll be mid at least

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800 getting signed next season?

trail perch
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No way

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there is so much KR talant

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Little if any NA will get signed

next mesa
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He looks like the best Chinese main tank

trail perch
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Or of CN

next mesa
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Could be Kellan and 800

trail perch
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Attack????

next mesa
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I thought he was an OT

trail perch
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Ohhhhh I thought u meant as a tank line

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i was v confused

next mesa
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baka

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Like top mt talents next year

trail perch
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I mean this year

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We had Muze

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Mag

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Ga9a

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Yaho is dog right?

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belorea is pretty good

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But we have entire teams of owl level players

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CC KR

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Talon

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O2

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Honestly even runaway from s1

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GC busan if they grab a good roster

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t1

tawdry hamlet
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Sadge series the Boston players are surely on ping right?

trail perch
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UA is somehow always dogshit

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dont question it

tawdry hamlet
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I know noble has a strong roster as far as na t2 goes but both their games were stomps they lost to ardour

trail perch
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Also its funny how much FU got worse without fastro

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He really is that good

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah it's almost amazing

trail perch
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Its night and day

tawdry hamlet
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It's like they literally aren't even top 2 anymore

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In t2

trail perch
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Jkaru feeds now

next mesa
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Noble is a rush one trick

tawdry hamlet
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Kruise is just not the same

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😭

trail perch
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Kruise mad washed

tawdry hamlet
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What if they have kruise play and have Fastro spectate and comm OmegaLUL OmegaLUL OmegaLUL

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Probably be better lmao

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Seriously though that's a rip at this time currently I would say

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Paintbrush>Kruise

next mesa
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I mean yeah not rlly a debate

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Paintbrush is somehow owl level

tawdry hamlet
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Ardour Lowkey had a stacked roster this month, Paintbrush Fishcake Dove Dynasty monkaS

next mesa
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Dove dynasty are always together lol

tawdry hamlet
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I know and they're cracked when dynasty is playing good but sometimes he plays bad

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That american tornado dps lineup is so stacked

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They literally took the top 4 na dps

tawdry hamlet
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Also yeah to anyone who says Fastro is a lucio one trick when a top tier roster can go from winning to losing just by downgrading him monkaS I think he's more important than that

earnest leaf
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I'd say he's probably top 5 in owl for MS

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Would Moth/LJG/Astro/FDgod/Jecse be a good top 5 Hmm

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in no order

tawdry hamlet
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I think for the most part although some may disagree with Fastro fdgod and ljg but in my head that's the top 5 besides uhh maybe Tobi and Nisha on mercy but idk

earnest leaf
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thing with ljg/fdgod is they have their feed moments

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So people turn on them super fast

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah for sure, what other good ms are there? Nisha, Molly, Tobi, uhh idk Mandu is ok I guess

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Yveltal

balmy wolf
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molly is fs

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mandu is ass

tawdry hamlet
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😭

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Better than the bottom at least

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Idk tho there's not a ton of main supports that stand out after the top 5

balmy wolf
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there are some hero specialists

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like skewed on brig

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masaa on lucio

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yveltal on mercy

tawdry hamlet
earnest leaf
plush grail
tawdry hamlet
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👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨

plush grail
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haha jk

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unless???

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also something i really wanna know

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is how much choi would sell for

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or how much his contract is

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he has been the only off-tank on shock for a loooooong time

toxic perch
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plus he made mvp

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he's been nothing but consistent, guy is scary

plush grail
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he's been the only off-tank on a team that has been top tier forever

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guy must be making bank

toxic perch
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for sure

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tbh you dont need anyone else if you have choi

earnest leaf
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I wouldn't be surprised if his contract wasn't super big

toxic perch
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(they did run sinatraa on zarya however)

earnest leaf
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tbf, at the time sinatraa was the best zar in the world

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for goats at least

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But choi has a top tier sig/dva, and a decent zarya

toxic perch
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was about to say

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if anything you hire someone who plays perfect zarya

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but why bother when you can just put Choi on it

earnest leaf
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Yea I really don't like the zarya otp OT swaps teams sometimes do

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Since you're locked into it all map

toxic perch
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especially with current meta you need to be flexible

mortal abyss
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Choi isn’t very good on zarya tbh but yeah no point getting another@off tank unless you’re completely replacing him

toxic perch
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also

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where zarya go?

tawdry hamlet
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Where fury brain go

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He went from top 3 off tank to just existing

toxic perch
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Justice simply has some things to figure out

tawdry hamlet
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Idk I mean sado doesn't look massively worse than usual Toronto as a whole just suck but fury individually looks a lil downgraded from his last season

toxic perch
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I was too busy eyeing Assassin and Jerry

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the dps pickups this season were just huge

tawdry hamlet
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Assassin is good and all but his echo been getting diffed recently monkaS

toxic perch
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maybe youre right though, Ill check his pov

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trueee

tawdry hamlet
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Jerry been cracked this season though

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Really dependable

toxic perch
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I think the expectations for Assassin are pretty high though

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he adding to Decay and Jerry (and TTuba)

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plus hes from Runaway

tawdry hamlet
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Ttuba stonks were hyped but he hasn't even touched the game this season

toxic perch
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I guess hes kept as a specialist

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happens with 4 dps you cant play them all

#

same with Ta1yo

mortal abyss
#

Ttuba is probably for genji and pharah

#

Seems like a waste tbh when you have decay and assassin

toxic perch
#

you never know, he might impress when we least expect it

mortal abyss
#

Perhaps

toxic perch
#

also they have space on the roster for him

#

even if he doesnt play for now

mortal abyss
#

Yeah

#

Still, that money could be used for maybe another flex support, we’ll see how it plays out though, Justice look very improved

toxic perch
#

they are still somewhat fresh

#

so it’s not all worked out yet we’ll have to see

#

I’m happy with Closer :)

willow tartan
#

You never know, Summer Showdown might be another stupid Genji meta.

toxic perch
#

we saw a little genji just recently

willow tartan
#

not seriouslly tho

toxic perch
#

huh

willow tartan
#

that was just better teams stomping w genji

toxic perch
#

Dallas played it well

willow tartan
#

against weaker teams

#

with a good genji player

tawdry hamlet
#

Nah genji was played by spark charge fusion Dallas and nyxl

#

He was a lil relevant

willow tartan
#

well i mean

#

apac teams were memeing with genji tbh

tawdry hamlet
#

Nah just testing the waters on a double shield genji and we saw it's usable remember terus fat 4k blades

willow tartan
#

haha

#

1v6 blade

tawdry hamlet
#

Teru genji actually went hard tho you can't rent

#

Deny

#

Idk why it changed to rent

toxic perch
#

@willow tartan Genji against Atlanta

#

small instances of seeing Genji being played

tawdry hamlet
#

Sparkle dorado genji that got hard shut down by Glister hehe

toxic perch
#

that was huge

#

doesnt get better than that

#

no idea why he stood there but it paid off

hot onyx
#

All the players they released from last year have been underperforming now in comparison to season 3

#

And people were judging NineK for it but

#

What if Fury fell off heavily during the scrims and trials for last year and Poko secretly turned out to be a top 5 off tank?

tawdry hamlet
#

5d chess

hot onyx
#

Not really since they have inside information

toxic perch
#

Mano and HOTBA are great pickups, you could tell from season 3 they contributed a lot to some of the NYXL highlights

balmy wolf
#

nah im pretty sure fury was traded

#

and not released

hot onyx
#

Traded because he was ass in scrims

#

But kept it a secret from Justice

balmy wolf
#

spilo did a review of justice not too long ago

hot onyx
#

OH MY GOD

#

SHUT UP

balmy wolf
#

fury has great mechanics and gamesense but the coordination with the team was not good

hot onyx
#

LOOK AT MY PROFILE

#

LOOK

balmy wolf
#

congrats

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
#

YYYYYEEEEEAAAASSS

willow tartan
hot onyx
#

It’s only been 1 year 1 month

#

And it’s all worth it

#

I gotta go get a colour

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
#

Ok thoughts on charge vs paris as a matchup TSMC_vibingcat

#

Naga vs choisehwan

#

Rio vs daan

#

It'd be interesting

#

Kaan vs Kariv too

balmy wolf
#

paris

hot onyx
balmy wolf
tawdry hamlet
#

My money would be on Paris but my heart on charge monkaS

toxic perch
#

Charge

#

choisehwan is scaryyy~~

plush grail
hot onyx
balmy wolf
#

thats the power of vodka blue

hot onyx
#

Almost as if my takes now have meaning

balmy wolf
#

we have blue blood

#

like royals

tawdry hamlet
#

Ok so Mykayleee vs Onigod monkaS

hot onyx
#

Eileen vs Onigod*

balmy wolf
tawdry hamlet
#

OmegaLUL Eileen probabt better too lnaoo

hot onyx
#

ahem

#

Paris lose to London on opening weekend

#

SparkR supremacy

#

Fischer head coaching

toxic perch
#

Crong vs Vestola

#

is tough

hot onyx
#

What about Tsuna vs Jihun tracer duel?

tawdry hamlet
#

Crong is underrated I think he gets popped as sigma one trick but he ate hella blizzards against eqo on dva

#

Idk crong isn't amazing

#

But he's far from god awful

hot onyx
#

I mean I still have Cr0ng as a top 10 ot

toxic perch
#

I think hes up there

#

maybe not top 5

#

but hes good

#

still havent forgotten about his rock denying lips emp

#

good times

hot onyx
#

Cr0ng traded to Fusion in exchange for Hotba to complete his full circle around all his former teams 🙏

tawdry hamlet
#

He's similar to space level imo monkaS

#

But his team suck so under appreciate

toxic perch
#

Vestola is really good too

#

second best EU player to have on your team in ranked

hot onyx
#

sHockWave EQO Poko FunnyAstro Space Kevster and Kai would like a word

willow tartan
#

isnt he the worse player on glads

hot onyx
#

Just because he’s technically the weakest Glads player doesn’t mean he’s bad

toxic perch
#

Im just talking about ranked

#

same with KSAA kindaa

willow tartan
#

ksaa isnt eu

#

he is from saudi

#

i think

tawdry hamlet
#

He's like A tier in the grand scheme of off tanks imo

toxic perch
#

he played EU servers however

hot onyx
#

Yeah he is

tawdry hamlet
#

Space and chrong that is

willow tartan
#

well yea

tawdry hamlet
#

Saudi is EU in overwatch regions catplobbers

toxic perch
#

idk about space, I think hes just popular

tawdry hamlet
#

Middle east is

hot onyx
#

Hot take

toxic perch
#

hes not bad

tawdry hamlet
#

Irl obviously not but overwatch it is

hot onyx
#

Despite what has been shown in contenders this week

#

Poko > Space

toxic perch
#

but there would be other pickups GLA could benefit from

willow tartan
#

thats a hot take?

tawdry hamlet
willow tartan
#

i want poko back in the league man

tawdry hamlet
#

That's just about meh they about the same skill

willow tartan
#

he's such a chad

hot onyx
toxic perch
#

both 6/10 =__=

#

HOWEVER

#

I wonder if Poko would shine right now

#

because most self destructs dont get much value (with one exception)

#

and Poko was known for getting those kills

#

so would he stand out in that aspect?

hot onyx
#

He wouldn’t stand out

#

But mechanically he would hold his own

#

It’d be difficult in a region with Void Cr0ng and LiGe

#

But certainly not impossible

#

I have faith

tawdry hamlet
#

Wish lige was able to play

#

He's was so cracked

toxic perch
#

whats the top 5
like
Choi / Void / HanBin / Toyou / Piggy ?

hot onyx
#

🇫🇷🥖🇫🇷

#

Toyou has not performed well enough for me to rate him that highly imo

tawdry hamlet
#

Toyou?

#

That dude just exists to me

toxic perch
#

Im based, name is nice

hot onyx
#

How about

tawdry hamlet
#

If we don't factor in failures this season I'd say fury void Choi hanbin gargoyle

toxic perch
#

in that order?

tawdry hamlet
#

Eh just random order

hot onyx
#

Choi Void Hanbin GaeBullSsi and Gargoyle

tawdry hamlet
#

But gargoyle is cracked and so is gbs

toxic perch
#

hes on the grind

#

he'll lead Florida to glory

hot onyx
#

Rn I would rate GBS above Fury

toxic perch
#

Justice overall are more successful however

hot onyx
#

Might be because I’m a raging GBS simp but I’m also a Fury apologist since “muh former player” so that evens itself out imo

#

Justice should’ve picked up Revenge

toxic perch
#

both players need more time, before we can tell

#

whos Revenge

hot onyx
#

Justice should’ve picked up Revenge

#

Former Runaway flex support

toxic perch
#

Justice should've picked up Revenge

hot onyx
#

Based

toxic perch
#

Im happy with Closer

hot onyx
#

flex support

mortal abyss
#

Eh I don’t think gbs has been better then fury apart from sigma

toxic perch
#

closer is flex no

hot onyx
#

Closer is main support

#

Bebe is flex support

toxic perch
#

ah my bad

mortal abyss
#

Yeah

toxic perch
#

I keep forgetting

mortal abyss
#

Closer has been alright

hot onyx
#

Dw

toxic perch
#

that support is different from tank

hot onyx
#

Closer is serviceable as long as he has a great team to go with him

toxic perch
#

yea I guess you could replace BeBe

hot onyx
#

And it’s so hard to say a team is great when Bebe is on said team

toxic perch
#

harsh

hot onyx
#

Remember Spark season 3?

toxic perch
#

Closer has a nice instagram page

#

spark didnt work overall

#

much to my dismay

hot onyx
#

Granted they had a ton of weak points

#

A washed up GodsB

#

A winston one trick

#

A support line that was mediocre at best

#

When the bright spots of a team are Architect and QoQ then you definitely need to rebuild your team

toxic perch
#

true

#

really was rooting for them though

tawdry hamlet
#

Watch godsb stream he isn't washed bb 😭

#

Godsb architect stacked dps line

toxic perch
#

they colours and social media are great

hot onyx
#

Cope

toxic perch
#

Spark is kinda the UwU-team

hot onyx
#

He pops off on stream because he’s playing against weaker players than himself

toxic perch
#

idk

hot onyx
#

Doesn’t do well in a professional environment

toxic perch
#

GodsB wasnt bad

tawdry hamlet
#

Spark is the we have all this talent but we ourselves will never win we will just be the talent team

hot onyx
#

I wouldn’t say GodsB is bad by any means

toxic perch
#

sometimes 3-0 SHD but still suck team

hot onyx
#

It’s simply when you’re comparing him to other hitscan players that are better

tawdry hamlet
#

Godsb > na bottom 5 hitscans monkaS red

hot onyx
#

Alright who is bottom 5 na hitscans

tawdry hamlet
#

Dalton Logix chex Linkzr and who

hot onyx
#

Hybrid

tawdry hamlet
#

Yes

#

😭

toxic perch
#

if GodsB got picked up for a top 3 team he would perform

hot onyx
#

Ok you’ve got a point

toxic perch
#

kinda like Glister

tawdry hamlet
#

Hybrid some dog water but godsb better than Onigod and on tier with Heesu I think maybe

hot onyx
#

But just being better than the very bottom of hitscans in the league isn’t good enough when you want to be winning though

tawdry hamlet
#

Like that Heesu Glister tier

hot onyx
#

You are smoking dope shit

#

And I want some

tawdry hamlet
#

I'm actually drinking Coors light baby

hot onyx
#

If it makes you think GodsB is on tier with Heesu and Glister

tawdry hamlet
#

🍺

toxic perch
#

he's though

#

GodsB isnt bad

#

Adora was though

#

sadly

tawdry hamlet
#

Idk if he's that good but Heesu Glister tier is relatively mid a tier for me idk where it is for others

toxic perch
#

u___u

hot onyx
#

Coors Light more like Coors Light Headed from your brain thinking GodsB is on par with Heesu and Glister

toxic perch
#

Glister pre Crusty coaching right?

tawdry hamlet
#

Glister was good on both shock and London I think he's been the same tbh

#

I don't think crusty changed him

toxic perch
#

He will though

tawdry hamlet
#

That's what I think about taiyo and I'm still waiting hehe

toxic perch
#

he only played two stages and I dont think he'll surpass Ans

#

but theres a lot of promise in Glister

hot onyx
#

GodsB is about the same level as IM37

#

Maybe a bit better

toxic perch
#

fairrr

#

cant elevate him to top 5 just because he had some highlights on Spark now

hot onyx
#

I mean if Boston traded for GodsB it would be more of a risk than an upgrade

#

But it would be a risk worth taking imo

#

Since

tawdry hamlet
#

I'd say the im37 low to mid b tier is fair for godsb

hot onyx
#

Y’know

tawdry hamlet
toxic perch
#

GodsB and Valentine

#

(づ⏓o⏓)づ

hot onyx
#

Watch a match where IM37 starts (any of them) and it’s understandable

tawdry hamlet
#

Wonder how stitch would be vs other bottom tier hitscans this season

hot onyx
#

Barely up to par

toxic perch
#

probably

#

what happened to Haksal

hot onyx
tawdry hamlet
#

Seominsoo shouldn't even be in league lmao

toxic perch
#

oh rly?

hot onyx
#

Yeah

toxic perch
#

does he play pro elsewhere?

hot onyx
#

Lemme see if I can find the tweet

#

Idk

#

Haven’t heard anything about him

toxic perch
#

unfortunate news

#

kinda sad JJANU and AimGod are gone

#

they played well during playoffs

#

plus AimGod did the funny on cam

hot onyx
toxic perch
#

:(

hot onyx
#

Also Aimgod is in contendies

#

Playing for Team CC

#

And Jjanu was streaming Overwatch last week

toxic perch
#

thats nice

hot onyx
#

Maybe he returns?

toxic perch
#

I do understand getting MAG instead

#

unlikely

#

especially with 5v5

hot onyx
#

Ah yeah

#

The party mode feature

toxic perch
#

gotta enhance the casual experience

hot onyx
#

I mean

#

I play casually

#

But I don’t want it to be a casual game

tawdry hamlet
#

Aimgod was just a standin iirc I don't think he plays pro anymore

hot onyx
#

I like the high skill cap

toxic perch
#

yea Im all for PvE and cross-play

#

but 5v5 takes away a big part

hot onyx
#

And 5v5 in pvp is gonna just become a dps haven

toxic perch
#

tank synergy is somewhat the foundation of OW

#

rotations, coordinated plays and playing for resources made the game

tawdry hamlet
#

This is true but tank is also the least played role so you have to expect both

hot onyx
#

Honestly

toxic perch
#

also the most important

tawdry hamlet
#

By both I mean oversaturation of other roles and lack of respect for your own OmegaLUL

hot onyx
#

I think a ton of tank players are either gonna migrate to dps or valorant

#

A change like this is only good for the short term money wise

#

Where you rake in the big bucks from release day

toxic perch
#

its fair argument but ideally this decision shouldnt have been made

hot onyx
#

Make some cash from the newfound excitement of a new Overwatch title

toxic perch
#

who knows

hot onyx
#

And the game will die in 10-12 months

toxic perch
#

maybe its the blizz master plan

#

and they bring 6v6 back after a year

#

sell out quickly and then back to normal

hot onyx
#

Bring back 6v6 after getting rid of it for a whole year on both games and everyone else has either adjusted to 5v5 or quit

#

🧠

toxic perch
#

at least the poor supports in plat dont have to struggle with healing tanks and dps simultaneously

hot onyx
#

Let the over extending genji die by the enemy spawn

toxic perch
#

its unfo OW is not that successful

hot onyx
#

Turn it into 5v5 early 5head

toxic perch
#

lol

#

a lot of the arguments from comp are super weird

hot onyx
#

Unless you use dva like a winston or sigma as a shield slave idk how off tank is gonna be useful ever again

toxic perch
#

not sure

hot onyx
#

And people complain about double shield

toxic perch
#

not having to heal a second tank you could opt to play more aggressive stuff

hot onyx
#

Hot take

toxic perch
#

since you dont have to play main support essentially

hot onyx
#

Double shield and GOATS were not my least favourite metas at all

toxic perch
#

like zarya with lucio brig and just rush in

#

double shields 🥴

hot onyx
#

Yeah and get melted quicker because of a lack of peel from the second tank

toxic perch
#

GOATS was fun but dominant

devout path
#

Moira lucio meta

toxic perch
#

double shields was not fun but dominant

hot onyx
#

GOATS was only a bad meta because it stayed around for too long

#

And because of 2019 brig

#

But we ignore that

toxic perch
#

Im still mad about that

hot onyx
#

Shield bashing through shields still radiates ptsd

toxic perch
#

3k players creeping their way to GM just to drop down when nerf hit

hot onyx
#

600 hp shield

#

When I played on PS4 I legit saw someone who peaked at 2800 and climbed to top 500 by one tricking brig

toxic perch
#

happens when easy-kit heros become stronger than high-ceiling ones

hot onyx
#

Imagine

#

How high low ranks would climb

#

In a reaper soilder dva orisa mercy moira meta

thorn wagon
#

ayo guys who plays on ps4?

toxic perch
hot onyx
toxic perch
thorn wagon
#

lmao i meant like casual players

toxic perch
#

6 man res

hot onyx
#

Coalescence every fight

thorn wagon
toxic perch
#

they both are in a weird place

hot onyx
#

And if you’re looking for casual players just wait a year or two for Overwatch2 and the whole playerbase will be casual

toxic perch
#

I think they are important because people who arent good at aiming can play them and get value just like Reinhardt or Winston

thorn wagon
#

tbh the only reason im excited for ow2 is cause ow was my childhood other than cod

toxic perch
#

but also they are a bit too easy, so you dont need to pay too much attention to positioning and awareness

hot onyx
#

Fair

toxic perch
#

arent you a bit young if OW was your childhood

thorn wagon
#

im 18 lmao

#

but never really playedd games much when i was younger

toxic perch
#

then more like your youth

thorn wagon
#

other than nfs

#

when i was like 8

#

ps2 days lmfao

toxic perch
#

good times

#

yea grinding OW was fun for the last 3 years

thorn wagon
#

need for speed carbon hit diff

thorn wagon
#

until 2018

#

players started leaving the game by then

#

and in my opinion role queue kinda ruined the game for me

hot onyx
#

I mean

#

Role Queue was definitely necessary

#

When you look at how many people are queuing with the intent of playing dps

toxic perch
#

6 dps or 4 mts on your team is zzzz

hot onyx
#

Based

#

And the fact that a ton of them from my experience have been stubborn and unwilling to flex when needed because “I paid $30 for this game I’ll play how I want”

#

Like bruh it’s a team based game go play quick play if you’ve got that attitude lmao

toxic perch
#

honestly depends on the game mode

toxic perch
thorn wagon
thorn wagon
hot onyx
#

Yeah but all games are better played with friends

toxic perch
#

which is why role q made sense

#

except q times for dps

thorn wagon
#

its too long

#

thats why i put either flex or dps and tank or dps and support

hot onyx
#

Respectable

kind ridge
thorn wagon
median tusk
#

Yeah

next mesa
#

its pretty easy to place bronze if you started playing ranked right at like level 25

kind ridge
#

me lol

toxic perch
#

I was about to "???" but you mean completely new players

worn falcon
#

Wait Agape out?

#

the crust is crumbling?

vagrant cargo
#

I dont get how agape made it in the first place

worldly flax
#

is agape leaving a good or bad thing for the shock?

noble nexus
#

a good thing if they get a half decent coach to replace him

#

their coaching kinda sucked this season compared to last

#

considering they've choked important matches twice

toxic perch
#

to be fair

#

other teams are simply stepping up

noble nexus
#

getting 3-0'd by atlanta tho?

toxic perch
#

I dont think anyone wants to play against Dallas

#

Atlanta did well

noble nexus
#

the shock beat dallas when they played normally

toxic perch
#

and they struggled against Atlanta before as well

noble nexus
#

on neogoats too

worldly flax
#

giving props to atlanta but I think shock underperformed during that match

toxic perch
#

Atlanta upsets Shock its been like that before

noble nexus
#

yeah

#

but they haven't been upset 3-0 like that

#

by atlanta

toxic perch
#

like playoffs season 2 and 3

#

maybe the just didnt prep

#

since they had Dallas and Houston on their minds

noble nexus
#

they just played badly lol

#

smurf looked like he was the only one trying

toxic perch
#

happens

#

they have to integrate 3 new players as well

#

plus replace Ans

#

and meta was in favor for ATL

#

like they excel with these comps

#

as long as they have Crusty as head coach they should be fine :)

#

I wonder who they replace Agape with though

hot onyx
#

nnnnnnNNNOOOO

hot onyx
#

Bad

#

Very bad

#

Agape was the backbone of the Shock and the only reason they didn’t lose as many matches as they did is because of Agape

worldly flax
#

super's gonna have to sour grape again if they lose the next tourney

toxic perch
# noble nexus they just played badly lol

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▶ Play video
#

even they dont know why they lose against Atlanta

#

entire video is a great insight into what happened, at least for MM

#

Viol2t contributes their struggle to both teams being similiar

tawdry hamlet
#

Agape 😭 😭

worn falcon
#

The crust is crumbling

#

bring back ninek and junbuck

next mesa
#

asking is so much better than everyone in eu

#

its insane

raw ermine
#

asking vs kai, french vs british, a tale as old as time, who wins?
wait, playing a french character...

next mesa
#

its actually fucking insane

#

taimou was right the hype this guy up i mean

#

he is owl level

#

he dunks on hybrid with his feet

#

kraandop is worse than helv though

#

lucer gets picked off a lot

raw ermine
#

asking had a down period recently, but seems to be trending up

next mesa
#

NKZ is a fucking beast though

#

the amount of fluxes that ive seen him cancel in this tournament

#

is like 100

raw ermine
feral zodiac
#

Who is agape

raw ermine
#

he just left sfs

#

he was assistant coach

feral zodiac
#

Ah

raw ermine
#

he won s1 w/ london

next mesa
#

why did I think agape was the one on charge

#

thats arachne

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

something something shock coach

next mesa
#

21 dollars

feral zodiac
#

How old is asking

next mesa
#

old

#

like 24 or smt

#

yea 24

feral zodiac
#

Goodbye owl hopes sadge