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hot onyx
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Because multiple players have spoken out about disliking hero pools since it takes away the ability to scrim contenders teams, and a ton of the fan base isn’t fond of it from what I know

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Just makes sense

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Unlike being an Eternal fan Morcy

tawdry hamlet
raw ermine
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who are these clowns going around messaging OW personalities telling them to act more like men?

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tf

noble nexus
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Fuckin absolute weirdos

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Couldn’t imagine not supporting a creator because they painted their nails or got a pink mouse

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Must suck to be that insecure and project your own dumbass problems in life

tawdry hamlet
digital cloud
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Lol

next mesa
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tfw ur insecure about ur masculinity so u have to insult a guy thats more chad than ur ever gonna be 😔 😔 ✊

noble nexus
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Mfs be projecting their insecurities because they can’t accept that some men are ok with their masculinity it’s a bit weird innit 😫

next mesa
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ikr its like

worldly flax
tawdry hamlet
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That's what I found so funny tho he is literally wearing a typical Hawaii tourist outfit with the Hawaiian shirt and flower how tf that make someone feminine lmao like if you're gonna say that at least pick a picture with "not masculine" clothes

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People be crazy

earnest leaf
next mesa
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lmao I saw that

slow lodge
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LOL

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WHAT

plush grail
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danny is a fucking chad

tawdry hamlet
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Frfr

true hound
little tusk
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wtf

next mesa
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pink is sexy asf

noble nexus
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facts

hot onyx
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Ayo I was interested in that trade offer with Dexter

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Shame

willow tartan
tropic herald
next mesa
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wait what

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WHAT

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NO

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NO NO NO NO NO

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NONONONONONONO

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NO FUCKING WAY

hot onyx
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They ran away

rare magnet
tawdry hamlet
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Oh damn, we got toxic masculinity, we got runaway disbanding, we got diem gone, we got new kings manager who literally fucking won contenders getting fired because the new org is Saudi and they can't handle a trans manager oh noo, we got jellypeanut throwing everyone's master games while salt and m0xy support him. God the overwatch community is fucking fucked right now and that's just facts wtf man

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Actually fucking sucks

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Makes me sadge

cursive plover
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the overwatch community is full of toxic pieces of shit if I'm honest

willow tartan
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Fuck people.

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NPCs are better.

tawdry hamlet
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Exactly man

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I'm gonna miss runaway droidcry

tribal canopy
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time for me to step up then

cursive plover
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Also RIP runaway ❤️

tawdry hamlet
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Runaway my beloved

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The overwatch community is literally dying before our eyes and we can't do anything man 😭

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Time passing sucks it makes things lose popularity and eventually die, I don't like change mannn

willow tartan
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Never had a community here anyway lol.

worn falcon
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crabRave2 Runaway is dead crabRave2

tawdry hamlet
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hey this is not a crab rave moment

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this is a sadge widepeepo sadge moment smh

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also

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news

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funnyastro replace by Kruise

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meaning

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funi are going to suck balls now

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because Kruise sucks major balls

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ok but anyway goodnight my favorite channel, I am fucking wasted and I slept two hours last night and don't want to clog this channel with more ramblings Lmaoooo

devout path
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RUNAWAY

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NOOOOOO

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WHY

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This is a sad

tawdry hamlet
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the t2 scene just ded, I mean when over half the academy teams died by 2019 it really just shows how poorly t2 be supported :(((((

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I guess

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idek

devout path
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Also new kings manager was trans?

tawdry hamlet
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Don't necessarily want to get into it here because rules and all but these threads should be all you need
https://twitter.com/Scalings_/status/1404076114704748544?s=20
https://twitter.com/KAFEEEEEE_OW/status/1403851333334188035?s=20

My theory

Read: https://t.co/JDPbc4yeCX

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#FALCONSAREHERE yeah the players are my friends i like them very much but the org kicked @Scalings_ for being fucking trans this is a disgrace and i think this should be addressed. i have proof and i can release it if the people involved are ok with this. Fuck you transphobic ppl

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oh shit I was going to link the new kings tweet but they deleted their whole ass account tfff

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or did I get blocked lmao

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but anyway pls anyone don't get into the politic shit and just read da threads thank I don't want to cause issues

balmy wolf
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no

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its dead

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they deleted it

tawdry hamlet
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wack

balmy wolf
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idk whats happening

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whole situation is fucked up

tawdry hamlet
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things do be falling apart in da ow thing indeed

balmy wolf
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yeah

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atleast owl is doing fine

devout path
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Owl is amazing

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Owl next season without runaway

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Sadge

balmy wolf
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but people in owl actually care

tawdry hamlet
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wild they just nuke their account lmao, but at least owl still pulls 50k viewers so we have hopium for a bright future !!!!

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but as far as t2 outside of na goes

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sadge as fuck

devout path
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I miss runaway already

tawdry hamlet
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hopefully a dope team can take their place and fill in nicely, that is what would be ideal

devout path
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My team

balmy wolf
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o2 blast is left

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and gc busan

tawdry hamlet
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that is true

balmy wolf
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rest is dead

tawdry hamlet
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o2 blast usually has some pog talent

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bilibili can sign some cool players but as a whole they often just flop

devout path
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I can’t imagine a t2 without runaway

tawdry hamlet
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they are cn tho

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but still

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be cool if ground zeroes over in australia is able to make a run in asia again lmaoooo as unlikely as that is

balmy wolf
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who watches that

tawdry hamlet
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element mystic and runaway dipping is literally like the precursors of the entire league just leaving :(((((

balmy wolf
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its so sad

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these teams been around for 5 years

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and going down

tawdry hamlet
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literally feels like a part of overwatch just died man, idk if it is because of the 4th of vodka I have had tongiht but shit just hits so hard man

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feels like ow t2 is just dead now

balmy wolf
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cause devs cant keep the game interesting

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we havent had content for 2 years

devout path
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T2 is dead

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Rip next owl season

tawdry hamlet
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like obviously teams still exist in t2 like at or o2 etc that are fun to watch of course I won't write off t2 but it just is so fucking sad to seeeeeeee these teams goo

devout path
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Runaway brought so much talent into the league

balmy wolf
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they let brig kill the game for a whole year

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so braindead

devout path
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Goats was the best

balmy wolf
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for owl maybe

tawdry hamlet
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idec about the meta I just miss the org :(((( lmaooo

devout path
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Goats was the best

balmy wolf
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for the rest of the game no

devout path
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Goats

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Was

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The

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Best

balmy wolf
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esp streamers and pros

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all quitting

tawdry hamlet
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I miss the summer 2020 days where every team still had all their big names before they quit owl for val or to retire but they also had the newer talents and the meta was double shield but at least it got interesting sometimes

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now we just got ded t2 and neo goats

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:((((

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I sincerely hope mei cree rush doesn't come back though, I fucking hate watching that meta so much pls

balmy wolf
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i hope it does

cursive plover
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Wait

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has the may melee spray been dropped at any point? Or is it still under development

tawdry hamlet
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no idea tbh I forgot about it, tbh I haven't even opened overwatch since then lmao xddddd lol poggers

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I had the encore on for tokens but played diff games all day lmaooo

feral zodiac
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Is overwatch failing to make teams money then

mortal abyss
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pretty dogshit how a widow 1v1 contest has a bigger prize than na contenders 1st place

feral zodiac
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Would be much more entertaining if it followed a relegation/promotion format tbh

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Imagine a team like Paris surviving on the last game day

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The current format of it is kind of boring if you aren't a top team

mortal abyss
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$15 tickets

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thats a steal

balmy wolf
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holy shit

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id buy

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hybrid back in contender lmao

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now that sparkr can play

pallid jetty
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Do you think if they kept OverWatch League streaming on twitch it would pull in bigger numbers?

balmy wolf
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no

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i dont understand ppl who say that

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the only thing that held owl back on yt was the tokens

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they needed to long for that

pallid jetty
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Hmm good take

trail perch
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Clickthrough rate on twitch is over 10x higher than on yt

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Twitch is for gamers

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Ppl come to twitch to watch games

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And bc of that, when owl is on the front page (which yt doesnt do) ppl click through it and watch a bit

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but on yt

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you need to search for it

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it isnt advertized

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its not front paged

balmy wolf
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thats not right

trail perch
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Yes it is

balmy wolf
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having content 24/7 increases viewership significantly more than having it 6 hours online on twitch

trail perch
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it def does not

balmy wolf
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you only gain viewers when you are live

trail perch
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look at the numbers on their 24/7 content

balmy wolf
trail perch
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No one watches those who dont already wtch the league

balmy wolf
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ask any analyst

trail perch
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The league is dying, yt just did the first blow

pallid jetty
trail perch
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Look at the viewership of any of those videos

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50k or less

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just like the league

balmy wolf
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wdym

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not every video is interesting

trail perch
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the coms checks, the power rankings, the highlights

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all like no viewers

balmy wolf
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50k for no games

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is insane

trail perch
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thats not increasing the audience....

balmy wolf
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70k for reuploads

trail perch
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If its the same ppl

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Which happened on twitch....

balmy wolf
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its exactly increasing the audience

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400k for the finals

trail perch
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Then how come the audience isnt increasing??

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Viewship is declining

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Everywhere

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every single tournament cycle

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Down

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Down

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Down

balmy wolf
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you cant blame that on yt

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if you do youre delusional

trail perch
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May melee versus june joust

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100k versus like 60k

balmy wolf
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start of the season is always more hyped

trail perch
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Yt isnt increasing audience or viewship

balmy wolf
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esp after that break

trail perch
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Its constricting and killing the league

barren quest
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JJ meta wasn't exactly fun to watch

balmy wolf
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constricting how

trail perch
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By removing all clikcthrough viewers

balmy wolf
trail perch
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Twitch had an audience, and clickthrough made it all work

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Channel points and polls made it fun and interactivve

balmy wolf
trail perch
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And numbers where climbing

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Then yt comes it and everything goes to shit

balmy wolf
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bruh

trail perch
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its not only yts fault

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but it isnt helping at all

balmy wolf
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ofc its declining after 4 seasons

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and 2 years without content

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prob half of the playerbase quit

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these numbers are insane for the state of ow rn

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id say its even better than before

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yt is THE platform for discoverability

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if you think twitch does it better you have 0 clue

trail perch
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Apparently you just dont understand how clickthrough works

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Your name makes sense now

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Silly little atlanta fan

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theres no point arguing bc you just dont care about what happened

balmy wolf
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thats literally your single argument, which is nonsense cause the majority of new viewers come in when its not live

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on twitch you cant be dicvovered unless youre live

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on yt you can get promoted anytime

balmy wolf
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you gonna have higher clicktroughrate as a livestream when the platform only has livecontent

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but livecontent doesnt bring you new viewers

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content that is available and discoverable anytime is what gets you new viewers

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but yeah theres no point in arguing bc i dont care what happened

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i dont care that owl is more discoverable and enjoyable than ever

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and that it has all content in one place so viewers dont get annoyed cause they need to switch platforms everytime a game is live

worn falcon
limber pine
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Spitfire will win a match off Sparkr alone

hot onyx
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SparkR and Shax are the only players with a remote chance of staying out of retirement this year on Spitfire

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Hybrids career was over before it started

trail perch
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overhyped

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EU contenders<<<<<

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also yall said the same about shax

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Funny how that turned out

next mesa
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shax looks very mid

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not even some carry

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i mean dont blame u with that tank and support line

raw ermine
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lol dallas coasting on 1st and 2nd place

limber pine
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there's still time for the shax prediction to pan out

silver barn
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Yo i dont touch the game for a year and a half

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The top teams are all different now

tropic herald
willow tartan
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wtf why did funi just let hurricane close the gap and engage on them for free

ivory mason
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this is sad to watch

gilded carbon
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anyone watching the conts

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the the

ivory mason
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funi is just gonna role them

gilded carbon
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contenders!

ivory mason
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roll*

gilded carbon
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isnt hybrid an owl player or something?

ivory mason
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he was

mortal abyss
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yeah

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hes on a 2way iirc

ivory mason
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but now that sparkr is of age

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he got sent back

gilded carbon
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oh

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ok

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sparkle yeah

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legend

ivory mason
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no no

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sparkr

next mesa
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kruise

ivory mason
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sparkle is the different one

willow tartan
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dude they legit just walked up to poko and bonked him

gilded carbon
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oh well

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Im dumb

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seems like a cool guy tho

ivory mason
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yea

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he looks fun to hang around wih

gilded carbon
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mans is spitting fire

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wait Im so funny

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they should call london rappers

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cuz theyre spitting fire

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ahaha

ivory mason
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hahahah

mortal abyss
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jkaru sheesh

ivory mason
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in the start

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i was just gonna type ...

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but after reading it twice

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i did find it funny

gilded carbon
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lmao easy

willow tartan
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I wanna see shockwave pop off cmon

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fuck em

ivory mason
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i just want hurricane to win

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that would be funny to see

willow tartan
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c'mon junker town

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shockwave widow pls

hot onyx
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Kruiseistheproblem Kruiseistheproblem Kruiseistheproblem Kruiseistheproblem Kruiseistheproblem Kruiseistheproblem

steep tusk
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Fun fact: there's an "s" hidden in the Shangai Dragons logo wich stands for "strength"

hot onyx
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K R U I S E I S T H E P R O B L E M

mortal abyss
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nah

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tank diff tbh

hot onyx
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Are Funi out of the tourney?

stuck radish
steep tusk
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No way

mortal abyss
devout path
slow lodge
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true

balmy wolf
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theres a phoenix in atlantas logo

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which stands for phoenix

hot onyx
limber pine
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hey guys i missed the FU/BH match. FU did great right?

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Right?

hot onyx
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In the correct alternate universe yes

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But this is not that universe

limber pine
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lol

pseudo cape
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what would be advice for someone on an collegiate esports team without a coach

limber pine
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^

hot onyx
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If you’re good enough you don’t need a coach, ask the season 2 Titans

pseudo cape
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lul obviously

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season 2 titans?

devout path
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The team that got rolled by the shock

hot onyx
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The team that won the season 2 stage 1 finals and got second in stage 2 and the playoffs by coaching themselves

pseudo cape
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and unfortunately I'm not good enough so I can't pull a Titans

devout path
pseudo cape
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but like I don't think my school has the money for that

devout path
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True true

pseudo cape
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so like we wouldn't be able to pay anybody so... kinda stuck

next mesa
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Designate a coach within the team

hot onyx
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Ayo you want me to coach you and set you guys up for failure?

next mesa
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like shahzam in sentinels

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someone needs to have the final say

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say its you

devout path
next mesa
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for all the strats/comps

devout path
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Cuz I actually am a coach

pseudo cape
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Yeah we have a Top500 FS and a GM FS but it would actually be nice i feel like to have someone outside to look in

hot onyx
devout path
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I coach FS

pseudo cape
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Like we will def have our Top 500 FS be our IGL

devout path
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Idk what the ow meta is rn

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Don’t look at me

pseudo cape
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👀

balmy wolf
pseudo cape
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👀 @devout path

hot onyx
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Symmetra torb double shield ana zen

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Ez

devout path
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I only know owl meta which is completely different than t3 meta

devout path
hot onyx
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Reyes are you EU or NA?

devout path
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Cuz I’m a good coach

balmy wolf
pseudo cape
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NA

devout path
hot onyx
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Move to EU and play nothing but brawl

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Ez grand finals

balmy wolf
devout path
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Eu doesn’t have collegiate you idiot

devout path
pseudo cape
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^ 😆

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I was thinking asking for team VOD reviews
and for me since I'm only Diamond Tank just ask for personal VOD reviews from ppl to get better
again since there will be no coach to do it

devout path
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I mean I’m just an assistant coach for a masters team

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Don’t ask me

pseudo cape
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I have friends from other collegiate teams and people I know that are GM+ so I'll prollly just ask them time to time for advice and learn to do better self VOD reviews

balmy wolf
devout path
pseudo cape
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dang @balmy wolf

hot onyx
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Wait

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Main or off tank?

pseudo cape
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Trying to move to Off-Tank although I climbed from low gold to Diamond with Rein

balmy wolf
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yeah theres a big difference

pseudo cape
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I play zarya sig mostly playing D.va hog more
I switched bc I don't like playing orisa and have almost no time on ball or winston

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do you play a lot of tank @hot onyx

balmy wolf
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get better at dva

hot onyx
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I just play anything

balmy wolf
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shes busted rn

pseudo cape
hot onyx
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All I was thinking is for you to become the Hunters of collegiate and hard push ball comps

devout path
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What sr are your dps

balmy wolf
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armor and remech changes and she does everything

pseudo cape
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So rn we have only signed half of the team 4ppl then we will sign the other for in the second string of tryouts

devout path
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Make your fdps one trick echo

balmy wolf
hot onyx
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Turn your fdps into a main support and bribe your college into making the rules open queue instead of role lock

mortal abyss
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imo, if most of your team isnt too high rank i would suggest simply playing your comfort picks (unless they're garbage of course) rather then forcing players to learn/play heroes they arent as great at

pseudo cape
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(there was not as big of a tryouts first time but second is looking to be much larger)
Rn we have 2 GM/Top500 FS
We have me Low Diamond Off Tank
and our 4th i think is Plat FS, Plat Main Tank
our 'coach'(esports organizer) asked if I could role swap to DPS if needed which I am Plat in

plush grail
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Paris beat the justice

hot onyx
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plush grail
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I will beat you

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Irl

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With love

hot onyx
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Pretty sure that’s lawfully referred to as sexual harassment

plush grail
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In a not harassment way

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I'll tickle u

hot onyx
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But I’m allergic to tickling and you’ll be charged with manslaughter

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I’m freed from this mortal coil and you’re stuck in prison

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Ez win

plush grail
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Ur already in hell my man

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Ur a fusion fan

wary cosmos
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how do i get banned from this server

balmy wolf
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you have to say atlanta is the best team in owl

craggy light
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any teams out there that wanna 6v6 me and my clan on xbox?

raw ermine
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if you threaten to do something bad they probably will ban you

raw ermine
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aw man, you sure dissed arble, naming yourself "Arbles Bf"

noble nexus
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I'd be upset if someone called themself my bf

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because that's a totally real and offensive thing!!

plush grail
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also ew

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ur name is pink now

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im so used to it being blooo

noble nexus
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lmfao

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I'm no longer masculine because I like pink 😔

raw ermine
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watch out, the arrge hater might come in here

noble nexus
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uh oh

plush grail
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the blue was cool

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this is gonna take some time getting used to

noble nexus
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he's gonna project his masculinity issues onto me

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yeah idk the pink is pretty tho so its worth it

plush grail
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looks fancy

noble nexus
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I'm now a higher being because my name is pink

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time to talk down on people

plush grail
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no

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ur still jack

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a not paris fan

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so ur below peasant tier

noble nexus
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oh shit right

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my bad bro

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this is what I get for liking glads and not paris

plush grail
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ur joking

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are u glads fan

noble nexus
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yeah

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that's why I hate my life

plush grail
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blocked

noble nexus
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hahahah

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I'm just a Shu stan idk what to tell you

plush grail
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get help

noble nexus
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😭

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is this you revoking your offer to be my bf?

plush grail
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no sorry im taken

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my devotion to paris is taking up too much time

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no time to date

raw ermine
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this relationship is daan

cobalt thistle
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outlaws is the best team HoustonOutlaws

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jjanggu activated

noble nexus
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jjanggu is sharing time with Dreamer

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hate to break it to you

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but your team isn't that good

mortal abyss
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bro

raw ermine
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wow

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low blow bro

barren quest
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Bestest

tropic herald
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American Tornado be funny challenge

noble nexus
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lmfao

next mesa
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Prime AT would get absolutely spanked by prime Runaway

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like 4-0 spanked

plush grail
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american tornado apolagy speedrun

noble nexus
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yeah that shit wouldn't even be a debate

next mesa
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maybe AT should sit the fuck down

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how many owl alumnis u got again?

plush grail
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beast and aspire

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aspire good

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beast not good

next mesa
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good fucking job bro

plush grail
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im pretty sure some bottom tier contenders teams have more players succeed in owl

noble nexus
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idk how they think they're even close to runaway when their most successful player in owl is aspire and he's on like a 2 month contract

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and beast has been benched since the 1940's it feels like

plush grail
noble nexus
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lmfao

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the only MTs comparable to Beast are Roar and Silver3 tbh

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also muma when he was dogshit

plush grail
noble nexus
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yeah

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except maybe s1

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and then he did nothing and get benched by his fdps

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must suck to be that dogshit

barren quest
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Hydration MT goated

feral zodiac
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Muma is his own tier of bad

willow tartan
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isnt muma that dog player on houston

noble nexus
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not anymore

plush grail
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not anymore

noble nexus
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he's gone

willow tartan
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retired?

noble nexus
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he got slapped around in contendies too iirc

true osprey
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Yeah in darkmode with mcgravy

willow tartan
#

i wonder who are the most popular OWL players

earnest leaf
#

super/carpe/fleta/fearless are probably big ones

noble nexus
#

super definitely has the biggest fanbase of his own

#

rascal is probably pretty high up there too

true osprey
#

Some of the Chinese players are probably up there given the proportion of Chinese fans vs everywhere else

feral zodiac
#

Jjonak probs up there

barren quest
#

Profit?

devout path
#

thats it

next mesa
#

guxue leave shy probably all have super massive fanbases lmao

frank granite
#

danteh

balmy wolf
#

NOOOOO im so sad

#

runaway was awesome, i barley watched them in the early overwatch days but omg they were still so amazing

willow tartan
#

can someone tell me why the fuck they playing disease comp in contenders

#

there's no hero bans for one

#

wtf

limber pine
#

What is disease comp?

willow tartan
#

neo goats

#

dupe goats

#

Lucio Moira

#

they're playing lucio moira into mei cree rein rush on meka base

#

actually fkn rolled

#

and went as expected

earnest leaf
#

the team running the owl comp got rolled?

willow tartan
#

of course they did

#

they won like 1 fight

earnest leaf
#

Well that comp requires the team to be good

#

and actually coordinated

#

And contenders teams are better at having one or two people just hard diff the enemy

willow tartan
#

it's also just not good

#

not having the tracer really cucked them

earnest leaf
#

Yea it was just ran because of the hero bans

willow tartan
#

yeah which then makes me wonder why the coaches would want to run it

#

cuz it's not the players fault

slow lodge
#

I always forget Hydration and KSF are on Outlaws

trail perch
#

they wouldnt win a fight

#

Prime Runaway has THE best players across every role

#

Even not prime runaway would spank

#

Imagine MAG QoQ Heesu Yaki LJG Gangnamjin

#

Or Jjanu Bumper Stich Haksal Slime Twilight

#

Or even

#

Kaiser Bumper Stitch Haksal Runner Cox

#

Or even Kaiser Bumper Haksal Coma Cox runner

#

OR even Jjanu Tizi Haksal Stitch Bumper Cox

#

Even Assasin Mer1t F4ze Mag Revenge Ch1yo

#

If I missed any itarations call me out on it

#

Runaway would still win

#

even the most recent one with Ado would still slap prime AT

next mesa
#

U sureeee prime AT was hella good though

#

Mag Jjanu Stitch Haksal Yaki Twilight Slime.. would be the best right

#

Who's better stitch or mer1t?

#

Heesu

#

Nvm

#

Take heesu

raw ermine
#

haksal>yaki don't @ me

balmy wolf
#

i mean haksal over yaki is a given

raw ermine
#

also isn't his name kox?

next mesa
#

Yes

#

does anyone have the sparkle holy shit gif

next mesa
#

how dare u

#

treat your elders with respect

trail perch
next mesa
#

i can see them beating this year's

#

the one with donghak and ado

trail perch
#

The one who took o2 to map 7?

raw ermine
#

imagine having an OWL roster of:
bumper
Mag
Jjanu
QOQ
Haksal
Yaki
Heesu
Assassin
Leejaegon
Slime
Gangnamjin
Twilight

next mesa
#

if it was the sugarfree one gauntlet

raw ermine
#

you'd roll and smoke so hard

limber pine
#

@trail perch

trail perch
#

yeah

#

what

next mesa
#

Assassin was a little bitch doe

#

also yeah ljg > slime

#

tf am i thinking

#

Runaway all time roster would be
Mag Jjanu Heesu Haksal Yaki Twilight Leejaegon

#

damn what a roster man

limber pine
#

you are the only person to pick the first two winners of the tournaments correctly

sullen berry
sullen berry
#

They're less disappointing than gladiators or the shock

next mesa
#

like what the fuck

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and im pretty sure mag was a lil bitch too

#

but im not too sure

sullen berry
#

But that might be the tip

#

Jerry underperforming

next mesa
#

I mean is he

sullen berry
#

Decay overperforming with this roster

next mesa
#

when justice was looking like dogshit

#

jerry actually looked pretty good on the widow ngl

#

he didnt have high expectations anyway

#

decay on the other hand very nice

raw ermine
limber pine
#

he's in there somewhere

raw ermine
#

what's the name tho

noble nexus
#

I'm so bad at picking the tourney qualifiers n winners n stuff

trail perch
#

I dont think im on the list im not even going to lie

#

there must be a mistake lol

#

I did predict it right tho

noble nexus
#

I'm pretty sure I've got 4 teams right and it's been shanghai and dalls in both

#

which is weird because I think I'm 2nd on the leaderboard for the pickems here

next mesa
#

dallas shocked man

raw ermine
#

everyone sucks at guessing the hawaii tourney qualifiers

#

although I am pretty good at the actually tourney

#

if those DUMBASSES down in shanghai didn't decide to do there job and win

noble nexus
#

I was almost perfect at the tourney except last match

raw ermine
#

i'd be perfect for the last tourney

#

yeah

balmy wolf
#

welp we couldnt predict dragons changing the meta last min

noble nexus
#

also I had outlaws, shock, dragons and philly qualifying for may melee

#

I'm so dogshit at that

balmy wolf
#

philly was one map off

limber pine
#

i meant in the discord contest

balmy wolf
#

i thought hunters would qualify but hunters always flop at the worst time

next mesa
noble nexus
#

LOL

next mesa
#

dallas choked*

#

i mean fate was just 2 good

balmy wolf
#

every t2 region besides china and kr

next mesa
#

CHANGED THE META 😩

balmy wolf
#

ball supremacy

raw ermine
#

lol

next mesa
#

no idea

slow lodge
#

what did blizzard do

next mesa
#

Runaway died

#

Tis the beginning of the end

barren quest
#

Runaway skin when

trail perch
#

honestly runaway tracer skin

#

with the logo

humble yarrow
#

Who is runaway?

#

Contenders?

barren quest
#

Contenders team

humble yarrow
#

So the team died?

barren quest
#

It was disbanded

humble yarrow
#

Oh rip

#

I thought it was a person

slow lodge
#

weren't they already dead?

earnest leaf
#

Runaway was an org in korean contenders

#

they had multiple rosters over the years

gusty rampart
#

My boy Haksal came from there

noble nexus
#

alot of the more successful or better owl players came from Runaway

pallid jetty
#

i want to get into the owl

#

but like

#

how

worn falcon
#

And Runaway was the team who beat team Korea from the world cup

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It waa the old vanc team iirc

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sullen berry
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Best of Achilios in one video

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1.Solo casting a Korean livestream

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2.his stream messes up due to buffering
3.actual stream pauses during a crucial teamfight

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"it's like the kongdoo [vs Runaway] set all over again"

tawdry hamlet
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LOL PITAPAT is Viol2t Streaming Account

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he really playing queues on hard mode

#

Ultraviolet is a top Contenders player as well

earnest leaf
#

I'm guessing viol2t flamed him

slow lodge
#

why's heesu blocked?

cursive glen
#

nah he just avoided every owl player he saw in his team and then made a screenshot to flex that he played with them as if it was special

lusty schooner
#

he then went on to lose 5 games in a row

cursive glen
#

nah he probably had them all in one game, avoided them for the screenshot then undid it

tawdry hamlet
#

wait

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funi got 2-0 yesterday

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lolll

vagrant cargo
#

Or something

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Because heesu is a ranked warlord

vagrant cargo
tawdry hamlet
#

😎

next mesa
raw ermine
#

Arachne now a coach for T1W

kind ridge
#

and why did runaway split

raw ermine
#

cause tendies sucks

kind ridge
#

so they were like fuck it lets leave contenders were not having a good time?

devout path
#

I miss runaway

raw ermine
#

well its kinda non profitable for teams

mortal abyss
#

Runaway weren’t making enough money in contenders so they had to come out (remember that they are financed by 2 people, Runner and Flowervin)

kind ridge
forest token
#

originally runner was on the team but had to step back because of mandatory military service

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so flowervin took over managing the team

mortal abyss
#

Runner was still managing the team when he came back from military service

feral zodiac
#

Pretty sure it's non profitable in general to run an ow org

mortal abyss
#

true

#

in apex/s1, it was definetly profitable but now...

worn falcon
#

@feral zodiac oh youre unmuted now

feral zodiac
fair wing
#

Does the console version have a somewhat esport?

raw ermine
#

not really, they might have a few, small unofficial tournaments, but nothing like contenders, or the overwatch league

fair wing
#

Awww okey

#

So playing it for like esports is not really worth it console then?

#

Or like more "seriously"

raw ermine
#

PC is infinitely more accessible for esports

#

in OW

fair wing
#

Ye ik

worn falcon
#

unless you play cod

#

that one is on console

fair wing
#

Well i tried to get into more like tournaments and so on before in ow... Long story short, my pc broke down. And i probably wont really get a new gaming pc due to the prices right now is absurd, so i thought about getting a series s instead (not only for ow). And i really miss play ow more like "professional" (evrn tho im shit xd), would you guys maybe say its worth the time to waste on ow for more "seriously" gaming or just move on, i cant see myself play cod more seriously really

raw ermine
#

well if you don't have a PC, any esport is hard to get into, except for COD (console or mobile), and some other fringe ones like clash royale and fifa

#

although to be fair, since crossplay is coming, consoles MIGHT become more accessible in the future for esports? idk

fair wing
#

Ye i was thinking about that as well, even though it wont be pc and console (when it comes to comp atleast). But opening it up alot cuz playstation and xbox can play together now so the player base will be way way better

#

Or not better, more bigger

mortal abyss
#

but its not part of Path to Pro, moreso just something to do if you are looking to play in a competitive league on console

#

They are doing xbox and ps4 as one big tournament next Season btw

fair wing
#

Oh cool

#

So ow console is getting a bit bigger now then, thats nice

mortal abyss
#

yeah

next mesa
#

asking is playing

#

he looks really good

raw ermine
#

cuz ashe is busted

next mesa
#

he was on ashe most of time right

gilded carbon
#

how are dps players vibbed?

#

I know theyve got

#

main tank

#

and off tank

#

and main support

#

and flex support!

#

but what about dee pee es?

barren quest
gilded carbon
#

oh

#

okay

#

so if I play most dps besides the hitscans including not playing tracer and stuff

#

im a flex dps?

#

asking so I know what to apply for

trail perch
#

Flex dps play both

raw ermine
#

HS can also kinda be divide up into tracking and not

#

you're a projectile dps

#

so a genji, hanzo, pharah, echo, mei player

gilded carbon
#

easy

#

except not pharah

#

cuz yknow

#

im a bit lazy to learn that many heros

#

also doomfist is projectile right?

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

pharah isn't too relevant

gilded carbon
#

dps is just my off role when I play with friends so

#

I just vibe

hollow bough
#

wp by noble there

#

snowball was huge

hollow bough
#

is anyone watching ow contenders here?

next mesa
#

yes I was watching kings row but then left after noble capped on huge time wtf

#

they still lost?

#

well wait no they didnt cap on huge time

#

they got to third point with so much time

#

idk

hollow bough
#

Noble got 3-0'd

raw ermine
#

not surprising against AT

hollow bough
#

at has some big egos

raw ermine
#

yeah

tropic herald
#

at is good but yea they purposefully play the bad guy it seems

next mesa
#

imagine dissing on runaway

#

cant imagine to be a loser

tropic herald
#

yea

#

that post didnt offend me

#

it just also wasnt funny

raw ermine
#

was kinda cringe

vagrant cargo
#

It was just a shitpost

#

Ppl that actually worked up over it rlly need to touch grass

balmy wolf
#

do we have a bingo card in this server that we can use?

tropic herald
#

What type of bingo card

balmy wolf
#

like pickems but with bingo instead

#

like philly not making into the tournament again or something along the lines of that

tropic herald
#

I don’t think so

balmy wolf
#

would be funny

#

did anyone get the widow skin? looks neat for a widow skin imo

tropic herald
#

It’s good

#

Worth it

devout path
#

Pelican is so fucking goood

#

No way pelican does not get roty

tropic herald
#

Izayaki should at least get role star this year

#

Who’s ur all role stars rn

balmy wolf
#

idk

#

roty is tricky since recency bias is a huge thing

#

most of the role stars should go to dragons and dallas imo

tropic herald
#

Pelican deserves roty 100%

next mesa
#

Didn't izayaki get it last year

#

Or was it just ljg

tropic herald
#

No

earnest leaf
#

Pelican even during the may melee looked really good on mei

tropic herald
#

Izayaki was robbed

earnest leaf
#

I mean smurf didn't get role star either

#

It's all a scam

next mesa
#

Tfff

#

Moth didn't get one either

#

Fdgod got it instead

#

Which was like

tropic herald
#

LJG FD

next mesa
#

Huh

#

Who else

#

Viol2t

tropic herald
#

Alarm

earnest leaf
#

did ans get role star?

tropic herald
#

I want to say yes but idk exactly

balmy wolf
#

dont think so

earnest leaf
#

he did, just checked

balmy wolf
#

nvm then

earnest leaf
#

sparkle did too which I don't agree with tbh

#

but I can see the reasoning

tropic herald
#

Carpe ANS

#

Fleta Sparky

earnest leaf
#

and lip

balmy wolf
#

did lip get one?

#

man was cracked on everything, besides the 0 man emps

earnest leaf
#

Tank was fearless/Void/Choi/Crong

#

"1st in first elimination rate as Widowmaker (20.5%)—minimum 150 teamfights"

balmy wolf
#

oh crong, boi how fast his team went to shit

earnest leaf
#

Scary stat from ans tbh

#

1/4 of the time he got the first pick

tropic herald
#

Crong choisehwan and weight

#

Also known as gzc

next mesa
#

Really crong like idk about that chief

balmy wolf
#

idk why they ditched their previous coaching staff from charge

next mesa
#

He was good last year though but

earnest leaf
#

he had a good sig

tropic herald
#

He was easily on the upper end of sigmas which was also the only off tank in apac last year

earnest leaf
#

and sig was meta most of the season

tropic herald
#

I’d only take like 4 other digs over him

earnest leaf
#

but yea role star right now would just be dallas/shd players

tropic herald
#
  • Pelican or shy or leave for 5th dps
earnest leaf
#

It is funny though that now dallas has top 2 in all roles for the power rankings

tropic herald
#

It’s crazy how Dallas played one less game than Shanghai but somehow maintained their spot over Shanghai

#

Where when Shanghai played one less game in a weekend iirc they lost their spot to Dallas

balmy wolf
#

are u talking about standings?

#

or player rankings

devout path
#

Role stars pelican leave shy at the very least

tropic herald
#

Well

#

Power rankings

next mesa
#

But what about sparkle Doha doe

#

Or like lip/fleta

devout path
#

Wait

#

Lip

#

Lip deserves too

earnest leaf
#

hasn't shy only played during the june joust

devout path
#

Like 1 week in the may melee

tropic herald
#

He played in May

next mesa
#

Yeah maybe hold on on shy

#

And leave lowkey got fricked by shy on echo

balmy wolf
#

i'd say leave is better

earnest leaf
#

stuff like role star really needs all season to decide

tropic herald
#

Also

earnest leaf
#

Since some players look like gods one stage then plank the next

tropic herald
#

Fearless mvp

balmy wolf
#

leave has been one of the best apac dps but his team crumbles every time

next mesa
#

Factual

earnest leaf
#

hear me out

#

fielder mvp run

devout path
#

I can see it

tropic herald
#

I think fielder is overrated

next mesa
#

His Moira has been the best

tropic herald
#

His Moira was not the best

next mesa
#

Not factual

devout path
#

Fielder Moira was actually cracked

earnest leaf
#

He was matching or looking better than every moira he faced tbh

tropic herald
#

Multiple times he would use coal

#

Win the fight but also force nothing out of the enemy

next mesa
#

I feel like people forgot he was A tier last year

tropic herald
#

So like what’s the point of even coaling

dreamy sail
#

alot

next mesa
#

Idk I've seen izayaki get less value out of coal than fielder

earnest leaf
#

it's practically a 40 second cooldown ability

tropic herald
#

Yea but then you just lose next fight

#

Bc ur echo ints and you can’t use coal to help them

earnest leaf
#

the fights lasted so long usually that moira got coal regardless

next mesa
#

Lowkey yea

#

Or like 50%

#

Wait a bit

#

Next fight

tropic herald
#

This was an issue for Dallas a lot of fights in the later half of the series

next mesa
#

Coal again

balmy wolf
#

cant really blame fielder, when fate got hot on the ball most of the piles drives got a pick

dreamy sail
#

oof

balmy wolf
#

i wouldnt blame anyone in finals, they stuck to what they know best

next mesa
#

I've seen izayaki aim his coal at nothing more than fielder

devout path
#

Ngl

#

Sparkle echo was a big problem for Dallas

tropic herald
#

His echo was exploited

devout path
#

Fate ball ruined sparkle

earnest leaf
#

his echo was good but still worse than the top echo players

devout path
#

Every pd fleta killed sparkle

earnest leaf
#

Nero/Pelican/Fleta all made it noticable

tropic herald
#

He isn’t even mechanically bad

#

He just didn’t play her right with the comp

#

Causing him to get punished for weird off angles

next mesa
#

Am I stupid to still find Nero kinda underwhelming

earnest leaf
#

on mei sure

#

But I think his echo was really solid

tropic herald
#

If we all pray together

#

We can get proper and Pelican on the same team next year

balmy wolf
#

is proper still on a team?

next mesa
#

Oh my god

tropic herald
#

O2

next mesa
#

🙏

earnest leaf
#

dw atlanta will lose edison and sign proper but keep hawk and gator next season

next mesa
#

Yea he just won contendies

#

Best contendies player

earnest leaf
#

He'll go to one of 3 teams

#

Shock or shd trying to hoard talent

tropic herald
#

Shit teams sign mer1t challenge

earnest leaf
#

or atlanta to try and have another dps line attempt to carry another season

next mesa
#

Mer1t

#

I feel like

#

He's like a B tier

barren quest
#

I wonder where Ado would be in

tropic herald
#

I can think of a few teams that would benefit a lot from merit

#

I do not think anyone is signing ado tbh

next mesa
#

He's not like mn3

#

His mechanics are solid

#

But doesn't screamed cracked

barren quest
#

The last two OWL teams Ado was in other than S1 Dragons, he got like barely any playtime

tropic herald
#

Tbf ado got overrated Bc of his time on dragons

balmy wolf
#

wasnt ado on spark too?

barren quest
#

Yes

vagrant cargo
#

Every year spark have to sign a meh fdps

#

Its tradition

tawdry hamlet
#

every year spark have to younk some contendedrs top player and then never play them and let them slowly fall down to c tier

#

meanwhile their a squad is nothing special but just exists around 4th-3rd place 24/7

worn falcon
#

Architect isn't meh fdps >:(

feral zodiac
#

I swear that's practically a copy paste of what a youtuber said

next mesa
#

maybe he meant seominsoo

#

who is the goat so that also doesnt make sense

devout path
#

Architect is a good fdps

raw ermine
#

molanran best bastion OWL confirmed

next mesa
#

can u link me

#

i got it

raw ermine
#

oh ok

next mesa
#

ty ty

#

fearless is just different

raw ermine
#

yeah mans crushing guxue

tropic herald
#

Fearless overrated

next mesa
#

bro thats hog

raw ermine
#

yeah I saw that as well lul

next mesa
#

when gestures top 3 u know that heros dog

raw ermine
#

silver3 cracked

tropic herald
#

Silver3 is just better

#

Idk man

balmy wolf
#

gator my man

#

horse diff

raw ermine
#

skewed and dridro cracked

balmy wolf
#

look at bap

raw ermine
#

shu

balmy wolf
#

lip is the best dps by far

tropic herald
#

Hmm

balmy wolf
#

lol junk

worthy tinsel
#

hot take: shock didn’t get worse( well kinda did but not by much), it’s just that the league competition got better.

noble nexus
#

that take is freezing cold bro

raw ermine
#

cold cake, as we call it

worthy tinsel
#

well thinking back, people thought shock would 3peat and they haven’t even made top 4. I will say tho that it really isn’t hot just a take lmao

raw ermine
#

well back then it wasn't possible to make such a take, as sfs hadn't played

next mesa
#

cold and reasonable cake

#

fielder best moira

#

lets goo

raw ermine
#

I need a generic cold cake meme

#

rather than a unique one every time

#

"brrrr, <this shit>"

next mesa
#

this is the template isnt it

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

still have it in paint 3d

#

although I'd rather have the cake visibly be cold/frozen rather than it saying "brr", at least for the generic one, so I gotta figure out how to do that

paper quest
#

What do you guys think about pine now that he is in Dallas fuel ?

#

I think he was better when he was playing on NYE

raw ermine
#

he's gonna need to time get back into the game, but once he is, he'll be a force to reckon with. Worst case scenario, they can run sparkle doha still and they'll be fine

paper quest
#

Yep

#

Also I think moth is the best OWL support rn

raw ermine
#

idk about that, dpei coaching plus general underperforming of glads made him generally do worse

#

not the mention skewed being a really good brig doesn't help his playtime

paper quest
#

Bassically because he plays lucio at the OWL instead of meta characters like Ana or mercy

#

And it's sad for me because I main lucio 😦

raw ermine
#

ana and mercy aren't the most meta characters rn, lucio was more meta cause of neo goats

paper quest
#

I know he's not the worst healer, but for example look at brig played in the OWL

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And meanwhile in low ranks she sucks

mortal abyss
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Lucio has been one of the stronger sypports for the last 2 stages lmfao

next mesa
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brig sucks in low ranks because no one knows how to play her

gusty rampart
raw ermine
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kinda spoils it when it's in the thumbnail...

mortal abyss
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Lmao