now he just a laughingstock
#esports-discussion
tawdry hamlet
toxic perch
Toronto is still newish
give them time same with Boston
especially with current hero bans
Rein/Tracer being gone means you cant rely on talent as much
tawdry hamlet
If im37 and valentine played at their full potential Boston could be top 5 na but for now they just ok
I miss Jerry 😭
He probably actually would have meshed with this current Boston roster well tbh
tawdry hamlet
They'd still be missing tracer though since no soon 
devout path
Visas :(
tawdry hamlet
So I guess im37 needed for the tracer, could've been cool to try and swing for someone like Heesu or uhh, idk who else was left that had better tracer and flickscan than im37
Not much besides Diya loll
tawdry hamlet
He retired and he would need visa still so he wouldn't have played until later I think since he played contenders on ping
tawdry hamlet
But he was truly remarkable for a tracer one trick on 200 ping
😭
Yeah
Go back to school
devout path
This is so sad
Sigma would’ve meshed with Boston so well too
All Korean players
Sigma valentine echo tracer
tawdry hamlet
Yeah idk how soon would have meshed with that roster tbh, probably would have done the same with soon or im37 lowkey
Soon is a good tracer and decent flickscan but idk how much he would have made a difference
tawdry hamlet
Would have been kind of cool if Boston picked up shanghai first three drops with Diya geguri and stand1
But geguri wanted out to stream iirc
And Diya too busy shitting on everyone with team cc
Still can't believe just how amazing team cc was
devout path
Who won the Shanghai Atlanta game
tawdry hamlet
They played ball reaper echo rush into atlanta's monke rush 
Got off da soldier finally
tawdry hamlet
Fate just isn't comfy on monke
Which makes sense considering he's been pretty lackluster on monkey this season
But apac loves ball too
devout path
Nyxl did it too
tawdry hamlet
I guess it's because apac hates playing rush maybe
But it's essentially rush but with ball
devout path
Well that is sorta a rush comp
tawdry hamlet
So it doesn't change a whole lot
tawdry hamlet
The echo reaper instead of soldier cree like they ran with Dallas is really what got the dub
Although iziyaki got player of the match
He was getting 3ks often
It was dopeee
tawdry hamlet
Hanamura was a stomp for shanghai
Atlanta only got a third round because bob capped point for them lmaoo
devout path
Shanghai can win this
tawdry hamlet
Lijang was pretty close at least
devout path
Is Shanghai can dominate Atlanta rush than I can’t wait to see what they do against Dallas rush
tawdry hamlet
As long as they don't do what they did yesterday they should have a decent shot
The soldier cree ball that that got destroyed by Dallas better not come back lol they better just mirror it
I wonder how fearless monkey will deal with fate ball since Atlanta didn't really know what to do about it
On another note holy crap look at the tiredness in this dude's eyes, playing on the worst team in the world can't be good for your health lmao
devout path
Yeah I think ball is just more survivable and can stop dives really easily
devout path
On another note holy crap look at the tiredness in this dude's eyes, playing on ...
I feel bad for linkzr
Like the titans players aren’t even rlly trying
tawdry hamlet
Linkzr wants to win again so bad but he isn't amazing on his own and with the rest of his team 
Surprised he didn't retire when shred did
He looked ready to just be done with owl
devout path
Yeah
tropic herald
The only stat he farms anymore is first deaths
tawdry hamlet
Fire laughing at the end of every huge loss or molanran stuffing his face with food ten seconds before a round starts who can care less challenge
devout path
Exactly
tawdry hamlet
I mean I'm sure he just tryna keep the mental up but at least get off the camera before you laugh at your own decimation 😭
tawdry hamlet
Hmm
McGravy mental is shattered atm, he just started streaming and he already quit indefinitely to find what he wants to do in life because he has no idea what to do now that overwatch is behind him
Must be ruff
Twitter
Here's how you know he's gone off the deep end tho
https://twitter.com/McGravy/status/1402897577914273793?s=19
I mean who tf does this
remote siren
I really slept through last night matches
Pain
Also wow Reign tried to mirror dallas?
Why would they do that?
ivory mason
Because they won control on mirror
vagrant briar
forest raven
Izayaki is a fucking freak
raw ermine
it seems we've been watching a lotta ||3-overwatch this bracket. ||
feral zodiac
Who won between reign and shanghai
raw ermine
||shanghai 3-0||
mossy dagger
Yo, is today the last possible day to get those Mercy skins?
devout path
Yep
mossy dagger
freaking 4am stream man
raw ermine
why is architect trending on liquipedia?
next mesa
No idea
noble nexus
Why not
mortal abyss
Maybe because he was in the last super video?? No clue though
tropic herald
tropic herald
why is architect trending on liquipedia?
Doha went up on a hidden ledge 3rd point Numbani and I guess someone called it the architect spot Bc he was the first reaper this comp to do that
raw ermine
Maybe...
I'm just imagining that chika "I raised that boy" meme with chika being dragons and fearless being the boy, and then an extra panel is added with chika getting beaten up by the boy all while saying the same line lol
tropic herald
timber plover
Could someone explain what the encore streams are
remote siren
Fuel is honesly the number one team
Like they have lost one map so far
And that was because of huge dallas throw
I think Fuel are the new shock
timber plover
I currently have the encore stream on cus I’m unsure if it’ll earn me tokens
little tusk
So do u earn tokens from it?
yes
timber plover
Kool thank you
ivory stag
so is encore just replaying matches from the day or two before?
stuck radish
ivory stag
im leaving it muted in back ground for tokens
willow tartan
U won't get tokens if it's in the background and muted
sullen berry
rip
I'm not going to have time today to watch the last day of matches
and I'm barely able to hold enough attention to watch the encore with more important stuff to do at 6am
ivory stag
i dont have it muted muted i have it like a fraction on
noble nexus
I mute the encore and get tokens all the time
ivory stag
yeah ive heard if its full muted it dont work kinda like drops on twitch so i put it a sliver on so i still can hear it then just go to a diff tab and watch youtube
hot onyx
Caught up with the matches and I’m so hyped for the finals between ||Dallas and Atlanta||
raw ermine
Indeed...
humble yarrow
Umm... they ain't playing eachother @hot onyx
raw ermine
I am pretty sure he's joking cause ||dallas already beat the dragons and apac seems to kinda suck this stage||
willow tartan
daan has covid 
raw ermine
daan daan daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!
dusty hound
Idk why Philly and nyxl aren't NA teams
phily used to be in na they move to apac this season bc they feel like it
humble yarrow
phily used to be in na they move to apac this season bc they feel like it
Yea I know because NA teams are too much of a challenge for them.
raw ermine
I mean, you don't leave a region just cause of competition
they had a decent amount of setup in SK already, as well as a lotta SK players
they we're probably able to manage it better than any other team that was in NA
feral zodiac
U do wonder why they did it when visa issues were a thing tho
raw ermine
they got comcast money
willow tartan
The League put incentives for teams to move to Eastern division because they wanted to balance the regions so they could have proper tournaments.
Valiant and Fusion took the offer.
raw ermine
they knew they could just get tobi hotba and rascal
humble yarrow
I think Paris is doing so bad this year cuz they don't have soon ngl
raw ermine
2018 lul
devout path
I think Paris is doing so bad this year cuz they don't have soon ngl
Or sparkle or fdgod or like literally everyone
feral zodiac
I think Paris is doing so bad this year cuz they don't have soon ngl
Idk man, I think the rest of the team missing might also affect it
humble yarrow
Or sparkle or fdgod or like literally everyone
Forgot sparkle was on Paris
But fd is meh
devout path
FD MEH??????
feral zodiac
Fd was good on paris
devout path
Are you ok
feral zodiac
But apparently having two feeding supports instead of one isn't good, who would've thought
devout path
Fd was literally top 3 main support last season
dusty hound
But fd is meh
fd is a top 8 main support in the entire league buddy
devout path
Lmao
humble yarrow
He does a bit of trolling
devout path
Fd only second best lucio in the world last season smh smh
humble yarrow
Was
feral zodiac
This season FD isn't as good
humble yarrow
He plays like a reddit Lucio
devout path
This season FD isn't as good
Cuz fd is on a slower team
Fd has not been able to change his playstyle effectively to fit the shock
feral zodiac
Ok
humble yarrow
Fun to watch but the trolling can mess shock up
feral zodiac
Shock players have always 'trolled'
humble yarrow
This season FD isn't as good
This man agrees
devout path
Fd on Dallas
feral zodiac
Rn best lucio in the league is obvs roolf
devout path
That’s scary
dusty hound
He plays like a reddit Lucio
that IS the point he play ultra-aggressive in another team that would be great but in the shock where everyone is even M O R E agro his playsstile is not the best but he is one of the best
feral zodiac
Going off of recent performances he is not one of the best right now
Is he in the top 10? Maybe
humble yarrow
Ik he is one of the best of the best but he plays too fast
devout path
Fd on Dallas would literally have an all star player in every role
feral zodiac
Have we seen fds brig at all this season
humble yarrow
Jecse is the worst player on dallas and is super good
feral zodiac
Could end up messing up the entire balance of the team
Or end up making it even better
It's hard to know
humble yarrow
Yea it's like adding pine
devout path
I think the synergy would go down but the pace that Dallas would play at
humble yarrow
Could help or destroy the team
devout path
Even faster
feral zodiac
If you play at a fast pace you need better synergy
dusty hound
Could help or destroy the team
not really if he cant keep up he just goes to the bench and that's it
feral zodiac
Wat
devout path
Only good European lucios
humble yarrow
But if echo and reaper get banned in the next meta they need pine
feral zodiac
Ljg, Tobi????
devout path
But if echo and reaper get banned in the next meta they need pine
Tracer sombra
devout path
They could play tracer sombra
humble yarrow
Oh ok
feral zodiac
If next meta is heavily hitscan then maybe
devout path
Plus
humble yarrow
Or run tracer cree
devout path
Next tourney no bans
humble yarrow
Really?
feral zodiac
Benchwarmer pine
devout path
I don’t see pine playing
humble yarrow
They may break him out in playoffs
devout path
No
humble yarrow
If widow is meta
devout path
If anything they’ll play pine against a lower level team
humble yarrow
Or cree
dusty hound
nah unless double sniper becomes meta he's in charge of the bench
devout path
Why would you bench a team that has a chance of winning two tourneys back to back for a hitscan that hasn’t played since 2018
humble yarrow
He plays ow
feral zodiac
As the old saying goes
humble yarrow
Just not professionally
devout path
Ranked is no where close to owl
devout path
*looks at shock*
Well shock couldn’t do much ab it
humble yarrow
I hope Doha gets mvp
feral zodiac
True
dusty hound
He plays ow
there is a B I G diference betwen owl and ranked
humble yarrow
True
devout path
Moth left to be on a different team to prove that he is a god level main support
humble yarrow
But Doha is pogging
devout path
Nh mvp will be fearless 100%
No
feral zodiac
Fearless is the mc of overwatch league
devout path
Mvp should def be fielder
devout path
Fielder hard carried vs the reign
feral zodiac
Fearless hard carried vs everyone
dusty hound
Moth left to be on a different team to prove that he is a god level main support
his play-stile was what allowed super aggressive players like viol2t shine
humble yarrow
Dallas hard carried against atl
feral zodiac
Name 1 tank that has diffed fearless for a match this season
devout path
Smurf
feral zodiac
Anyone else
devout path
Mag
humble yarrow
Yes
feral zodiac
When?
devout path
May melee
feral zodiac
Mag wasn't here last season
median tusk
Can you check how many hours you have?
dusty hound
didnt jjanggu diff him in the first battle of texas?
feral zodiac
And I'm talking about about this season
feral zodiac
didnt jjanggu diff him in the first battle of texas?
Fuck
raw ermine
yeah jj won against him
humble yarrow
didnt jjanggu diff him in the first battle of texas?
Jjanggu diffs super anyday
devout path
Mag in may melee qualifiers
feral zodiac
No
earnest leaf
fearless is good, just not invincible
dusty hound
yeah he is the protagonist of this anime
earnest leaf
no one is really invincible
devout path
Sparkle gets value on genji
raw ermine
sparkle is comic relief
devout path
GENJI
feral zodiac
no one is really invincible
Ans
raw ermine
whose the love interest for fearless?
earnest leaf
ok true
humble yarrow
Sparkle is God tier in the league
raw ermine
ANS the final boss
feral zodiac
Eileen when genji is meta
devout path
whose the love interest for fearless?
Fielder
devout path
If ans comes back that’s scary
raw ermine
in s1 dive meta
feral zodiac
Ans won't come back
humble yarrow
Ans on dallas?
feral zodiac
Valorant = new and growing
devout path
Ans on Dallas 
feral zodiac
Ow = old and declining
humble yarrow
Ans and pine would be the best hits and duo
dusty hound
Ans won't come back
he still play ow every once in a while
earnest leaf
if dallas got ans they win it all
devout path
Ans on Dallas with pelican as well
humble yarrow
Change my mind
feral zodiac
If dallas gets ans they do a golden stage
feral zodiac
Sparkle pelican dps line
Play ans + fleta
devout path
Ok now no hero limits
raw ermine
bruh OWL is anime so real life things don't apply
dusty hound
ah yes the fleta 76
devout path
Sparkle echo pelican echo
feral zodiac
Play fleta + carpe
humble yarrow
I still can't believe pelican was playing in contenders at 17
feral zodiac
Wait no
devout path
I still can't believe pelican was playing in contenders at 17
Wym
feral zodiac
Fleta + rascal
devout path
He is 18 now. And was in contenders last year
You know like half of contenders is owl level players that are too young right
devout path
Signing contracts to minors
humble yarrow
You know like half of contenders is owl level players that are too young right
I thought contenders was 16. But I'm surprised how is is so young and is soooo good
devout path
I thought contenders was 16. But I'm surprised how is is so young and is soooo g...
Tr33 is a contenders player
feral zodiac
Contenders has no age limit i think?
devout path
He’s 13
raw ermine
nah contenders is like 12 and up
dusty hound
You know like half of contenders is owl level players that are too young right
at least in korea bc in eu they got blasted vs the fusion uni that got 3 owl players
raw ermine
tr33 is super young
feral zodiac
I feel bad for tr33
raw ermine
Sugfree was 13 at one point
feral zodiac
Man will be old enough to play in owl but overwatch will be dead
devout path
There is like very few 20+ yos
humble yarrow
In conteders?
feral zodiac
When ur 13 u don't have to worry about playing a game instead of finding an actual career
humble yarrow
I thought a good chunk of where 20-22
devout path
Most of contenders is 13-20
feral zodiac
Could u imagine being 22 in contenders
humble yarrow
Lol
devout path
Most contenders players by the time they are that old just realize they won’t make it to owl and retire
Sigma 
earnest leaf
well being a tracer one trick would only get you so far in owl
dusty hound
well being a tracer one trick would only get you so far in owl
i mean there are onetricks in owl like twilight who is a ana otp but he doesn't see a lot of play time lately
willow tartan
Fd on Dallas would literally have an all star player in every role
dude imagine how cracked Shanghai would've been this season if they kept fearless + diem not retiring
would've been gg ez 5-0 tournament wins
earnest leaf
that's because twilight has viol2t on his team
twilight would start on a lot of teams in the league
don't forget his mvp bid was made on zen
earnest leaf
twilight would start over everyone except viol2t/alarm, maybe izayaki, and maybe shu
remote siren
Fielder
mortal abyss
And zen
earnest leaf
i'm actually surprised twilight wants to stay on shock
I'm 100% sure he could get on another team with ease with a good contract
mortal abyss
He’s probably happy to just chill, only play his favourite hero and get money
earnest leaf
yea
willow tartan
and get lots of money
I wonder how much owl contracts cost
top csgo contracts cost like millions
feral zodiac
Last time they leaked contracts the highest were like 220k
For players like fissure n shit
little tusk
goddamn how do ppl play soldier
I feel like he's useless with this dmg nerf
maybe I just dont have the aim tbh
devout path
goddamn how do ppl play soldier
By holding down
raw ermine
I wonder if that means they get a temp MT or no
next mesa
They got 2 more weeks
noble nexus
yeah he should hopefully be good after the 2 weeks
tropic herald
Or valiant
Valiant contracts are below 50k by loopholes but also above China mini wage so the players don’t complain
next mesa
Well they most don't complain because they are offered lodging + food and most of their families are like well off already lol
noble nexus
yeah I'd be more angry about the fact that most of the valiant's players have ruined their careers by being on such a dogshit team
I can't see any of them being signed again
remote siren
0 8
noble nexus
except wya
noble nexus
like 2
next mesa
Didn't titans take like a couple of maps
remote siren
Its been one month
Since they have gotten one point
Like im positve the titans would get swept by valiant
Even the spitfire shits on them
Like Dallas have their own tier cause theyre so good
Ans the titans are also in theirr own tier because they are so bad
tribal canopy
titans would win vs the valiant
chilly jolt
respect to shanghai for trying new comps and strategies other than double shield and lucio moira dive
chilly jolt
having mirrored echos and dvas with like 4 bombs going off in one team fight was so dumb to watch
finally we get a breath of fresh air here
remote siren
But dragons are trolling
Their comps arent good thats why they arent meta
They gonna giga rolled by fuel today
lean spear
atlanta got fucked lol
remote siren
Aatlnta fought 4 rookies thought they were good
Then got rolled by the real elite teams
Cant wait fot fuel to go undefeated in playoffs /s
earnest leaf
Titans are bad
tawdry hamlet
eh, Atlanta did actually up their game, you have to give them credit for that at least, they weren't as good as Dallas or Shanghai and most people knew that already but it was fun to believe and see if the momentum would carry since Atlanta has never really had major success
earnest leaf
But valiant is awful
tawdry hamlet
Didn't titans take like a couple of maps
they took the beast winston map and like 2 other maps in their whole time iirc
kind ridge
toronto were clowning on gibraltar tbh they wanted every one to play
next mesa
@balmy wolf how r u
Yeah I remember in may
They were taking some maps
And London werent
tawdry hamlet
swear they only took like 2, the paris one, and the other one with beast
damn they took 4
better than I expected
next mesa
So titans > London at the time
kind ridge
titans < valiant < london
tawdry hamlet
which is so strange to me, because London has a similar dps line and shred and frd didn't seem like they would be much better if at all to hadi molf but they did somehow
and then kellex ripa literally threw their monitors out the window once they got to owl again lmao
like you have Dalton Teru Linkzr vs Blase Shax Hybrid
Sparkr gonna play soon but I still don't know if that makes a huge diff since hadi and kellex are kind of ass cheeks
when the best player on the team at this moment is blase you know your team lowkey trashhhhhh
raw ermine
when do london and titans play?
tawdry hamlet
wait
valiant have 3 tanks and they still run silver3
when tf they get three tanks
I do not remember nvm existing I do remember showcheng tho
wait valiant picked up a dude who hadn't played since 2018 tf, surely china had better than that to offer loll
raw ermine
yeah nvm
he's the benchfiller
they nearly had thor
if they got him, the team would have been SO much better
an actually ms
and actually OT
and a dps rotation
tawdry hamlet
so how many valiant players are off roleing?
kind ridge
krystal not bad on hitscan tbf
kind ridge
so how many valiant players are off roleing?
highbee showcheng
kind ridge
molanran
tawdry hamlet
he is a tracer one trick iirc tho isn't he
raw ermine
and echo
tawdry hamlet
or is that the other one they are so fucking forgettable man
tawdry hamlet
idk the worst dps in apac after them is like what? Charge or NYXL and nyxl are rookies and charge have eileen and choisehwan
he might find a t2 team at least
remote siren
I feel bad for titans though
tawdry hamlet
they replace roolf and one of their dps and they might actually win a couple games honestly
tawdry hamlet
replace Roolf with Kaan and then get a real coach for fire and they could do better if Linkzr keeps playing better like he has recently and teru isn't the worst
honestly the support line their biggest hurdle atm
ivory stag
imma be honest dallas boutta rip shd a new one tonight
tawdry hamlet
I am not a shanghai believer but surely it will be somewhat close if shanghai destroyed atlanta and atlanta was relatively close with dallas
remote siren
Might be a blowout if dallas are really tryharding
tawdry hamlet
just depends on if the ball is an issue or not since everything else is just a mirror
remote siren
If its ball honeskty shd is going on the list
tawdry hamlet
the ball worked against atlanta once they switched from cree soldier to reaper echo and played meta with ball instead of monkey
so I think if they mirror but replace monkey with ball
they have an ok chance
remote siren
Dude mirror is aleays dallas
tawdry hamlet
it is always dallas yes, but it will at least be close
tawdry hamlet
they ran soldier cree
they ran reaper echo and stomped atlantas comp
and atlanta did the same comp as dallas
remote siren
The only reason reign didnt get 3 0 was because of dallas throw on point c control
tawdry hamlet
not saying they are gonna win
but they at least have a chance
eh I wouldn't say dallas threw that control, it was super close tbf
other than the doom steps glitch thing it was pretty even
remote siren
They got two picks them sit still letting riegn get respawners
tawdry hamlet
then the other maps the even part sort of drifted away
remote siren
Giga throw
Anywaya
My preds have all been correct except reign taking on map and dallas sweeping shd
As long as shd win one map im good
tawdry hamlet
hehe titans should sign haku
japanese flex support from atlanta academy last year loll
probably still an upgrade to roolf
then again a jar of peanut butter sitting in his chair in his place would probably be an upgrade
fair slate
OWL fans when their favorite player presses q:
remote siren
@tawdry hamlet FDGOD would prob be better than roolf on fs
tawdry hamlet
FDGod is just simply better, even off role I would imagine
rare parcel
So Shock 3-0d Fuel this Month and Atlanta 3-0d Shock and Fuel beats Atlanta????
balmy wolf
who yall got?
raw ermine
4-3 dallas
tawdry hamlet
So Shock 3-0d Fuel this Month and Atlanta 3-0d Shock and Fuel beats Atlanta????
nothing really makes sense this season honestly, every team has been trading wins in and out where last season rock paper scissors thought would work
like last season if x team beat y team and y team beat z team then x can beat z
but now it is like if this team randomly 3-0 one team, they will still maybe get swept a day later by a team worse than that team because it just be like that lol
tawdry hamlet
eh it mostly worked last season where teams like shock only had like 4 losses
but now that every team is closer it is so much harder to predict
mortal cipher
I guess I can't bring logic in eSports
or in sports in general
rare parcel
yeah
mortal cipher
like the best teams dont always win
tawdry hamlet
I have 4-2 Dallas today
mortal cipher
Futbol being the best example of this
mortal cipher
I have 4-2 Dallas today <:Salutations:520101260041519108>
i have 4-3 but i could see 4-2 again
tawdry hamlet
I only have 4-2 because shanghai can match every one on Dallas except for monkey
idk why fate just can't do it
rare parcel
like how Fuel got so good in such a small amount of time. They were medium in week 1 of MM and then just 3-0 the Shock
mortal cipher
who know
tawdry hamlet
most teams in the first week were pretty shaky
mortal cipher
they lost to houston and then steamrolled everyone after
tawdry hamlet
they were adapting to the no hitscan because nobody really knew how the meta would play out until after the first games
then once they found a rush comp that worked for them
mortal cipher
yeah
tawdry hamlet
they just went brrrrr
rare parcel
Yeah when I saw Shock play I was like: That's not the Shock I remember from 2019-2020
barren quest
More teams have been catching up to Shock
rare parcel
I really believed in the triple champ dream Sadge
mortal cipher
more and more time go by the less likely to happen
barren quest
This season has been more competitive than ever at the top
mortal cipher
I really believed in the triple champ dream Sadge
it wouldve been nice to see
tawdry hamlet
triple champ is possible still, seoul went 12-12 and still got second
anything can happen
mortal cipher
this season there are more teams who can actually take the shock
mortal cipher
triple champ is possible still, seoul went 12-12 and still got second
true
rare parcel
FDGod makes some really dumb decisions sometimes
mortal cipher
this is the second tourney
mortal cipher
FDGod makes some really dumb decisions sometimes
or FDfeed as yt says
tawdry hamlet
well when you are known for your lucio you are bound to do some silly things lolll
tawdry hamlet
name something more iconic than lucios and trying to dps
mortal cipher
lol
rare parcel
literally agains Atlanta the Shock won the teamfight and were 5v1 and FD beated ON 5V1 and they didn't have beat next fight and lost
mortal cipher
the doomfist getting killed instantly
rare parcel
that was hard to watch honestly
mortal cipher
yikes
tawdry hamlet
but no the atlanta series was team diff, not even just fd, violet and striker also played like ass that series. Nero just existed and choi was crazy off his game
rare parcel
like doesn't he see the kill feed??
mortal cipher
fr
tawdry hamlet
they had no communication in that comp it seemed
rare parcel
you don't even need comms for that. All you can do when coming from spawn to point is look at the killfeed
noble nexus
in FD's defence his entire team was critical and he was coming back from spawn into what could have been the last fight of the round
it was a mistake
absolutely
but it was understandable
tawdry hamlet
what I noticed was, nobody looked at Pelican, they just let him do damage and shot at other people
it was so weird
mortal cipher
yeah
tawdry hamlet
like Striker had Pelican blocking goggles on or some shit
glacial fox
Yeah people have been saying the shock need moth back but he’s not doing much better on the glads
noble nexus
idk everyone other than smurf played like shit
mortal cipher
honestly
rare parcel
Ans wouldn't let Pelican play Echo all game
tawdry hamlet
Ans at his peak was such a shutdown player it was so much fun
just pew pew wins
while striker tracer did his thing
mortal cipher
Ans wouldn't let Pelican play Echo all game
ans is retired
rare parcel
I know I'm just saying Ans would't be letting that Echo roam around if he was still here
mortal cipher
oh true
rare parcel
Striker tracer is still one of the best in the league though, no?
mortal cipher
sad
rare parcel
Pine let's go
glacial fox
Finally get to see pine in action sadly it’s not in game lol
rare parcel
Fuel are already strong and with Pine I think the champ for this season is already chosen tbh
tawdry hamlet
Kai pls don't choke like last year
mortal cipher
pls dont
glacial fox
Totally agree no one has really challenged them in tournaments
noble nexus
Kai kinda isn't that good in straight 1v1s
tawdry hamlet
yeah
noble nexus
gwangboong is also insane at widow tbf
tawdry hamlet
he was a nutty widow in s3 then got knocked out first round to who was it again? So0n?
glacial fox
he was a nutty widow in s3 then got knocked out first round to who was it again?...
Yikes
noble nexus
pretty sure this is the first sign of emotion Kai has ever shown
tawdry hamlet
Last Season :(((
noble nexus
and he's getting dumpstered
rare parcel
Kai is way better in a match though
noble nexus
I also don't think he takes it that seriously
mortal cipher
true
rare parcel
This match shows that 1v1 means nothing in this game
mortal cipher
yeah
tawdry hamlet
yeah we all know Kai is good, just sucks he never does well in the 1v1s since in game he is nutty
noble nexus
widow duels are pretty important in a match
rare parcel
widow duels are pretty important in a match
Yes but you think different ingame than 1v1
tawdry hamlet
rare parcel
PINE TIME
tawdry hamlet
Linkzr So0n even if they were not the ones people wanted were still pretty hype lowkey
noble nexus
Kai would probably body gwangboong in a match during sniper meta
tawdry hamlet
pretty funny that Linkzr won more money in that one widow tourney than he did in his whole time with outlaws
glacial fox
Dang lol
tawdry hamlet
he is on titans now
noble nexus
linkzr is on vancouver now
tawdry hamlet
and is washed af
noble nexus
he went from that outlaws roster and still managed to downgrade his team
rare parcel
Last Season :(((
Logix is better than this man. I've seen this man he is a god
mortal cipher
yikes
tawdry hamlet
eh Logix is also pretty washed
rare parcel
well he was good
glacial fox
They got aspire now I think logix is gone for good
tawdry hamlet
he was good like two seasons ago but now he just like B tier on his best days
mortal cipher
They got aspire now I think logix is gone for good
where is asphire from
noble nexus
aspire is NA
tawdry hamlet
contenders
glacial fox
Toronto
mortal cipher
yeah
tawdry hamlet
he was picked up because heesu and logix got covid
noble nexus
Aspire is a lot better than logix tbh
rare parcel
can't wait for some new talents from contenders to be noticed in the league
mortal cipher
same
rare parcel
Like someone that can change history
that can play a hero considered bad so good that he makes it work
that is gonna be epic
tawdry hamlet
wish more na t2 talent got considered since NA as a tier 2 region at the top level has gotten far better than it used to be
mortal cipher
that can play a hero considered bad so good that he makes it work
liek torb
tawdry hamlet
like if you compared the na t2 hitscans now to the top na t2 hitscans of a year and a bit ago you would have like Aspire now vs Dalton then
noble nexus
NA T2 is kinda cracked now
tawdry hamlet
in the right metas for suree
like sigma ball that at team was nutty
Lip v Pine Babyy
lets goo
noble nexus
imagine Pine gets boomed all match
mortal cipher
oof
tawdry hamlet
I mean he probably will
Lip has been playing hitscan at the top level for a year and a half now
pine is just streamer
glacial fox
Hope not he’s one of my favorite players I just hope he gets played
glacial fox
True
mortal cipher
Pine also hasnt been in owl since season 2 or 3
tawdry hamlet
like not saying pine bad obviously but the cards are stacked against him as far as Lip being a skilled player who sometimes even outperformed diem on long range
tawdry hamlet
pretty wild pine on the 500 15 sense
nuts man
how you be precise with an edpi double that of nearly every hitscan in the league
built different
oooof
rare parcel
THE NO REG
supple prism
ping diff
rare parcel
MOXY MOMENT
tawdry hamlet
if Pine wins and Dallas wins I will shit my pants at how anime this season is
mortal cipher
it really is
noble nexus
the comeback 
glacial fox
Tied up
tawdry hamlet
sweating now
noble nexus
he's starting intensely at his phone
tawdry hamlet
gotta make it close
rare parcel
that shot was really sus ngl
noble nexus
Lip after the 5th round
mortal cipher
Lip after the 5th round
lmbao
supple prism
he got greedy
tawdry hamlet
Lip just had the better movement tracking I think, Pine had the aim but often didn't know where lip was
mortal cipher
that was impressive
glacial fox
Yeah lip looked way more aware
glacial fox
And he had way better jump shots
tawdry hamlet
but 5-4 against a top tier hitscan pretty good for Dallas 😮
next mesa
Diem would've stomped
supple prism
yes, but its fun to watch
next mesa
Ngl
mortal cipher
yeah
earnest leaf
diem retired so someone else could win the widow 1v1
noble nexus
it's honestly a crime that they didn't have Ans in any of the 1v1s
mortal cipher
yeah
tropic herald
well every widow in the league is good just the fact of the matter is the widow that looks the best has a team that sets them up the best
slow lodge
cancel danny
mortal cipher
cancel danny
lmabao
noble nexus
gonna get him trending on twitter after this
tawdry hamlet
#Dannyisoverparty
mortal cipher
twitter be twitter
glacial fox
How dare he translate what the players are saying
mortal cipher
thats how the rules work
slow lodge
How dare he translate what the players are saying
they both speak the same language
he was talking to them
mortal cipher
If only diem was on a team that used him more
he chose to leave
rare parcel
Pine name on stream is literally ANSDIEMFAN OR ANSDIEMDIFF or something like that
tawdry hamlet
Shanghai god tier org tho, respect to them 
mortal cipher
yeah
tawdry hamlet
lets see lip gwangboong now so we can see the epic gwangboong win
glacial fox
They’ve made one of the biggest comebacks ever
mortal cipher
yeah
glacial fox
People would have thought you were crazy if you said that Shanghai would be one of the best in 2019
next mesa
Pine name on stream is literally ANSDIEMFAN OR ANSDIEMDIFF or something like tha...
Anscarpediem
I think
tawdry hamlet
I wish so0n didn't get cucked by visas speaking of widow 1v1s, he is like an A tier tracer and mid tier flickscan 
he would have been better than im37
rare parcel
They need to make LeeJaeGon vs FDGod Lucio 1v1
mortal cipher
leegaegon
tawdry hamlet
so0n jerry dps line would have been ideal for boston imo, but Jerry went to the justice since they probably realized he is lowkey cracked when he isn't playing with contenders players and myunbong
rare parcel
Just bring Redshell in OWL he would just spawn camp the supports all game
noble nexus
redshell would fr be worse than highbee on MS
tepid ibex
silly tactics only work in ranked mostly
or australia contenders 
tawdry hamlet
well yeah he is a lucio one trick streamer, we saw what happened when chipsa a "god" doomfist went into owl
rare parcel
He has really good game sense and mechanics on Lucio as far as individual play goes
tawdry hamlet
not to mention redshell has past drama that would bar him from entry anyway I think but that is neither here nor there
tawdry hamlet
yeah I didn't want to because then people would ask and I don't wanna bother with that lmao
rare parcel
They should make something like they did with Shock vs The World
noble nexus
shock vs the world was kinda a let down tbh
tawdry hamlet
those were fun
rare parcel
All MVP Overwatch league players vs streamers
mortal cipher
that nice
earnest leaf
Just as a reminder
the joke off of super vs Jeff was the final official OW video Jeff appeared in
tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
😭
hollow bough
I havent actually been getting my overwatch rewards
rare parcel
Was Valiant ever good. They look like really bad team tbh
hollow bough
watched for like 6 hours over the past few days, only recieved 5 points
mortal cipher
ouch
hollow bough
kind of annoying
kind ridge
not to mention redshell has past drama that would bar him from entry anyway I th...
what drama
mortal cipher
potato tornado
tawdry hamlet
refresh the page after watchpoint ends a lot of people say, I have watched youtube and gotten most of it
just google redshell drama
mortal cipher
yeah
tawdry hamlet
I don;'t want to talk about that here loll
mortal cipher
oh that
tawdry hamlet
another note, carpe got cucked by having to go against diem first round :(((
he should have been in glisters spot
that widow 1v1 with ans diem was sooo slow last season lmao
because they did the dumb map
mortal cipher
i like how they but their names the way it was made
rare parcel
I would have liked to see shadder2k in OWL, but his wrist man. He wanted to join so bad. I'm so sad for his career
tawdry hamlet
Danny surfboard again
hollow bough
mortal cipher
wow
worn hornet
it's a conspiracy!
tawdry hamlet
if shadder got in around the end of s2 or the end of s1 he probably wouldn't have been that bad, but now that players have gotten better and he doesn't play as much he wouldn't have major success I think
kind of like the older players like surefour
rare parcel
if shadder got in around the end of s2 or the end of s1 he probably wouldn't hav...
He has wrist problems also
tawdry hamlet
back then they went good, but then as players got better they just got outclassed
rare parcel
He is not a Genji one trick. He has good chunk of heroes he can play at a high level
tawdry hamlet
he also plays 1200 7.25 so I can see why he has wrist problems lmao
rare parcel
That's fast
mortal cipher
C9
mortal cipher
yeah
tawdry hamlet
his lowest sense was 3 times shadder2k sense which is already high lmao
rare parcel
I play Genji with 400DPI 10sens
tawdry hamlet
haksal was built dif
yeah 400 10 or 800 5 pretty average sense as far as pros go
some prefer higher like 800 7 though
lip is 800 5.4
rare parcel
Pine plays with way higher sens than I though for a hitscan player
tawdry hamlet
yeah he is kind of known for that
mortal cipher
i thought was a reference from cars
tawdry hamlet
the anxiety 
rare parcel
Lip better watch his LIPs
earnest leaf
If he doesn't have wrist issues he probably did exercises and what not
next mesa
what is really amazing, is how did haksal not develop wrist problems
u cant develope wrist problems if u barely move ur wrist 
tawdry hamlet
hollow bough
arm gamer moment
mortal cipher
yeah
tawdry hamlet
xzi played pretty high for a hitscan as well, 1000 4.95
next mesa
Lip needs to make diem proud
earnest leaf
It's a tragedy xzi had to retire
rare parcel
And how does Necros play for so long with this high sense and still have no wrist problems or maybe he has, he is just hiding it
earnest leaf
probably takes care of his wrists
umbral sapphire
when is the match starting
next mesa
how bad did kai lose
umbral sapphire
isnt there a match today?
next mesa
wowwwww
rare parcel
He's sweating, knees weak, arms are heavy. There's vomit on his sweater already. MOM'S SPAGHETTI
mortal cipher
that was rense
next mesa
gwangboong giving me diem vibes doe
mortal cipher
tense
silk tiger
that was intense
next mesa
yea lowkey
next mesa
diem would've 7-3ed him
rare parcel
if shadder got in around the end of s2 or the end of s1 he probably wouldn't hav...
but still though when shadder2k joined Liquid the team improved a lot. He really mad a huge change
tawdry hamlet
lowkey the way kaylee can aim but not position and the charge getting new coaches and not even having a head coach rn, really makes you realize why the positioning is so ass lowkey
everyone else on charge works together alright but kariv and kaylee from what I have seen get picked out often
due to bad position
rare parcel
Can someone tell me if Valiant was ever good? They look pretty bad rn
tawdry hamlet
they were last season top 5 na
most of the season
but then dumped their whole roster after every other team had already signed players and then moved the team to china
so everyone hates them
and they are dogshit because they are whatever players they could scrounge up and a random coach
then they said they had to drop the team due to "covid related visa issues" when in reality the chinese company was just cheaper
dogshit org essentially
also they had already signed 2 new players for season 4 before they dropped their roster for china so they gave two people contracts and shit then just said actually nevermind
supple prism
wait, who won the widow 1v1
tawdry hamlet
gwangboong
supple prism
and also its kinda lame with only 4
tawdry hamlet
yeah but it was just one per tourney team so it made sense and they only had like 30 minutes to do it
ibm watson rankings are based
rare parcel
This meta is kinda ResidentSleeper tbh
rare parcel
It's just which Echo gets more lucky with Dva Bomb
tawdry hamlet
it is also who gets moira ult first since a lot of teams prefer to engage with it
rare parcel
Danny OMEGALUL
mortal cipher
lol
tawdry hamlet
bruh they actually did the public bathroom interview
worn hornet
I thought we were just shitvoting a prediction yesterday
tawdry hamlet
public bathroom diff
mortal cipher
indeed
balmy wolf
well we got the bathroom
mortal cipher
we did didnt we
noble nexus
brenshow casting for finals 😩
tawdry hamlet
Hmm I don't know if I prefer the in depth analysis of uberx or the hypeness of brenshow
noble nexus
I love this
mortal cipher
Hmm I don't know if I prefer the in depth analysis of uberx or the hypeness of b...
hard desision
noble nexus
the brenshow dynamic is just more entertaining tbh
mortal cipher
it is
tawdry hamlet
I think uberx are great fit for apac games since they are a lot more overwatch than the brenshow entertainment dynamic that works better for na
tawdry hamlet
But then apac gets Vikki and achilios? I think
mortal cipher
i feel that
tawdry hamlet
I don't even remember
mortal cipher
brenshow make it more engaging
dusty hound
for finals i like the hype but for regular season i prefer the analytics of uberx