esports-discussion

[tawdry hamlet]

Who is gwangboong again lmao

[hot onyx]

Doesn’t have the brain to click left click fast enough

[barren quest]

His positioning is very poor

[tepid ibex]

Nyxl sniper player

[tawdry hamlet]

Ah lmaoo

[hot onyx]

Hitscan for nyxl

[tawdry hamlet]

Other than ivy Friday jjonak I honestly couldn't tell you nyxls starters

I'm also baked out of my mind rn tho so my brain 🧠 smooth

[tepid ibex]

Bianca and yakpung

[sullen berry]

[willow tartan]

imagine nyxl beats reign

[hot onyx]

Jimmy and Feath5r

[willow tartan]

jimmy is chengdu

[sullen berry]

reign takes down shanghai

[mighty pivot]

[sullen berry]

after dominating nyxl

how about it?

hmmm???

[tawdry hamlet]

Feather I get him mistaken with flower

[sullen berry]

he has a 5

[hot onyx]

Shush he’s stoned and I’m doing a little trolling

[sullen berry]

flower got a 3

[willow tartan]

theres a player called flower?

[tawdry hamlet]

Old player

[sullen berry]

flo3ur

[hot onyx]

Was

[tepid ibex]

Used to play for nyxl

[remote siren]

Old nyxl

[willow tartan]

last year?

[tawdry hamlet]

Was a 🥜

[hot onyx]

2019

[remote siren]

His tag was nanohana back in the day

He waa on xl2

[brittle sleet]

Hi

[willow tartan]

there's a flora

[sullen berry]

waited 2 years after OWWC 2018 and couldn't deliver the goods after being on NYXL's former academy team

[willow tartan]

close enugh

[tepid ibex]

The clip of mano comforting him

[sullen berry]

sbb holding hands meta

[hot onyx]

Sbb*

[tepid ibex]

Shit

[hot onyx]

Imagine SoOn on Fusion

Carpe could play hitscan with a god tier tracer to keep Striker in check

If he didn’t leave for Valorant that is

[sullen berry]

Nero Eileen
https://youtube.com/clip/UgwWS59vh3euEq04pbt4AaABCQ

[remote siren]

Sbb is the best tracer to ever play this game

If you think its striker

[remote siren]

You are very new to owl

[willow tartan]

sbb doesnt even start on nyxl

[sullen berry]

HUGE

[next mesa]

flora not flower

[willow tartan]

didnt*

[next mesa]

😔

[remote siren]

Cause tracer wasnt meta

And sbb was a tracer one trick

[sullen berry]

I want to see a Valorant masters moment where NA figure it out and you just have Babybay (FaZe Clan) & ANS (T1) representing NA

[remote siren]

Striker could play genji junkrat and traccer

Season 1 was so weird

Liberio waa the best hanzo

The best widow was also liberio

Alao he was the beat genji

Liberio used to be a god man

[willow tartan]

tfw the best valo players are from cs or ow

[tawdry hamlet]

I saw an old post and it was like "best torb in the league: BDOSIN

From s1

[sullen berry]

eee

worst mercy

Zebbosai

but also best sombra at the time - Danteh

when she got omegabuffed when stealth was on a time limit and large health packs gave you ults for every team fight

[willow tartan]

i want to see sombra played again

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/imAVRL/status/1401483807379759106?s=20

AVRL (@imAVRL)

Mano and Hotba still carrying the NYXL from another team https://t.co/VTTB7DHtuz

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Twitter · Jun 6, 2021, 10:19 AM

banger

[tawdry hamlet]

😭

How good is Mano

I lowkey thought he was a downgrade

Like losing fury obvious downgrade but what was mano

[sullen berry]

reckon fury was a bigger downgrade than expected

[tawdry hamlet]

Not having someone to eat ults constantly 😭

[tropic herald]

mano is better than sado imo

[sullen berry]

mano's former synergy with Carpe from 2019 OWWC must have been important, so was Sado not enough?

[tawdry hamlet]

Other question if Washington was willing to buy decay mag fury assassin jerry, could they not afford a better support duo like

[hot onyx]

I thought Mano would be a sidegrade but his recent performance worries me

[tawdry hamlet]

Closer and bebe aren't bad but you'd think if they were trying to form a super team they'd go all in on the roster star power wise

[tropic herald]

contrary to popular belief washington doesnt drop that much money on contracts

[hot onyx]

Ok who here unironically rates Closer/Bebe in the top half of support duos?

[tawdry hamlet]

Washington should have signed Diya 😭

Not that Jerry is bad I just like Diya loll

[tropic herald]

honestly id rather have closer bebe than a lot of support duos

[tired furnace]

I missed like 2 hours

Shock lost?

[tawdry hamlet]

Fair, Toronto support duo has been such a letdown imo

[tired furnace]

To Atlanta?

[tropic herald]

pelican dropped 53 final blows

it was a pelican diff

[tawdry hamlet]

Has aztac even played much I only see ansoonjae lastro all the time

[raw ermine]

nah

[tropic herald]

aztac played like one map

[hot onyx]

Yeah kinda goes without saying Closer/Bebe > Fire/Roolf Kellex/Ripa Highbee/Wya and ASJ/Lastro

[raw ermine]

hardly any

[tropic herald]

against titans

[tawdry hamlet]

Tragic

[hot onyx]

But who else

[barren quest]

How has Lastro looked in Defiant compared to S3 Valiant?

[tawdry hamlet]

Kariv Mandu hehe

Spark what is it there like idk coldest or something

[hot onyx]

Maybe Closer > Mandu

But Kariv > Bebe any day

[tawdry hamlet]

I think bebe>kariv Mandu>closer

[barren quest]

They mostly play MCD IDK iirc

[tawdry hamlet]

Ah opposites

Loll

[hot onyx]

Well

We can tell which of us is sober

[tawdry hamlet]

[tropic herald]

when i look at na support duos

unironically id take was duo over 7 other duos

[hot onyx]

In NA

Please elaborate

[tawdry hamlet]

We are halfway through the season and I genuinely don't know if Joobi is good or not or if Houston just playing good all around lmao

[hot onyx]

Or else my brain will implode

[tawdry hamlet]

Crimzo I can gauge as better than before but not great but Joobi I literally don't know

[hot onyx]

Oh shit yeah keep forgetting Outlaws exist

[tropic herald]

Titans, Defiant, Spitfire, Uprising, Eternal, Reign, Outlaws

id only argue the last 2 are close

[hot onyx]

No

There is no planet that Faith Bong < Closer Bebe

[barren quest]

Which is worse: Kellex/Ripa or Fire/Roolf

[tawdry hamlet]

Fire

Roolf

[tropic herald]

bong overrated af

[hot onyx]

Fire good brig but that’s it

[tropic herald]

he plays like ana

and uh

ana

and

ana

[hot onyx]

Bong clapped on zen

[next mesa]

nah

[tawdry hamlet]

Think he got overrated because everyone on his team was dog shit

[next mesa]

myunbong is good honestly the weaker of the duo is faith

[hot onyx]

In contendies and some games

[tawdry hamlet]

[tropic herald]

oh trust me im not saying faith is good either

[next mesa]

his bap is nice too

[tropic herald]

but overall the boston supp duo is overrrated

[hot onyx]

Better than the Justice duo

[tropic herald]

nah

[hot onyx]

Also

[tawdry hamlet]

Hot take stitch was good last year roar just sucked turbo dick

[tropic herald]

nah

stitch was not

[hot onyx]

Did you watch Kaan/Dridro with your eyes closed?

[tropic herald]

i like kaan

but do i rate him over bebe

nah

kaan kinda plays like violet

[tawdry hamlet]

I'm probably desperately clinging into original titans stonks but I liked stitch 😭

[tropic herald]

he does dick plays not brain plays

[hot onyx]

Bebe exists

And barely does that correct

[tawdry hamlet]

I remember off season ttuba was said to have played really well and he hasn't seen a map

[tropic herald]

id rather have bebe on justice than kaan or bong

i think the ttuba thing was a lie

bc they yoinked assassin

[tawdry hamlet]

Had to have been otherwise they'd play him at least once like even taiyo got a map lmao

Then again checkmate exists lmao

[tropic herald]

checkmate was such an interesting pickup

[hot onyx]

Who would you’ve rated Stitch above last season

[tropic herald]

he was good, but realistically he isnt getting played

[tawdry hamlet]

Uh like 4 na bottom na hitscans 😭

He wasn't good

But I like him

[hot onyx]

Hmm yes

sHockWave and Jerry

[tawdry hamlet]

Dude he was better than our favorite s tier dps Dalton

That is big stonks

[hot onyx]

Massive stonks indeed

Why rate him lower than

then*

[tawdry hamlet]

Was seominsoo really good on titans? Or was he like stitch

[tropic herald]

he was good at zarya

[hot onyx]

SMS is a niche pick

[tawdry hamlet]

He had like a 6 month vacation and somehow outperformed other options for spark

[tropic herald]

then again a lot of people sucked at zarya that year

[raw ermine]

both sms and stitch on titans were meh

[tawdry hamlet]

They said they got him not for titans stonks but because he played better than the other people they trialed which seemed odd

[hot onyx]

But he and Stitch were the weak points outside of goats

[tropic herald]

im pretty sure sms was nepotism

[tawdry hamlet]

Since a lot of people said he was just a fan pickup

[tropic herald]

the only good players on titans

was haksal twilight and slime

[hot onyx]

Rapel

[tropic herald]

the rest were one tricks

[hot onyx]

That’s it

Rapel the only good Titans player

[tawdry hamlet]

Ryujehong played 1600 edpi

Absolute freak

400 4.3

I think something like that

[tropic herald]

1600 is a nice edpi for hitscan

[tawdry hamlet]

It's so incredibly low it's like 800 2

[hot onyx]

Mans adjusted to whacko sens but forgot to not be sexist on stream

[tawdry hamlet]

I played 800 2.4 like bqb and my hitscan went nuts but everything else suffered lmao

Then bqb raised to 3.1 this year

What's funny is carpe and alarm have the exact same setup, but carpe uses 3.12 and alarm uses 3.11

[hot onyx]

And Alarm is playing more consistently than Carpe

Not a coincidence

Carpe should change to .1 lower

[tawdry hamlet]

There were some crazy low sense flex supports back in season 1 and 2

Aimgod was 800 2

Like 80cm/360

Nuts

Kai plays about 40cm/360 for reference

Fleta plays like 24cm/360

[hot onyx]

Imma be honest I played console for about 1/4 of my ow time and all this is going over my head like the comments about Roolf not being a top tier fs

So you might as well be saying似サあるら

[trail perch]

that didnt age well

[tropic herald]

just saying

shock has missed two tourneys

in a row

you guys cant be out here saying shock is undisputed #1

or even going to argue that they are

[earnest leaf]

Shock only won a single tourney in 2019

winnable

copium

[tropic herald]

shock also podiumed on all 3

[stuck radish]

paris eternal player throws back to back champions games

[tropic herald]

id say viol2t threw pretty hard too

lots of misplays from supports

and then striker honestly felt non existent

[stuck radish]

ye which is why i said its just basically the shock v houston match from earlier this season

same thing was happening except they didnt come back

[tropic herald]

my thoughts on teams rn

[stuck radish]

houston below boston?

[earnest leaf]

I'd still probably put shock above glads

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean boston at least made it in knockouts

in this meta he means

not altogether I assume

[tropic herald]

im just talking this meta

houston went 3-1 but were also bless rng

and then just planked in knockouts

i think shock glads are close but also their performances today is what made me switch them

still very close

[kind ridge]

london above vancouver?

[tropic herald]

doesnt really matter which order u put them in

both of them are beyond bad and dont deserve to play in the league

the only reason both of them arent 0-16 this year is bc they play eachother

[stuck radish]

to be fair vancouver got the worst schedule in the entire league

[earnest leaf]

Vancouver also has roolf

[kind ridge]

they had the boston game that was winnable

but blew it

[gusty rampart]

Shock trolled too much

[supple prism]

to be fair, vancouver also possible has the worst management in the league. in contention with valiant

[next mesa]

I'd put glads above reign lol

[shadow dagger]

Glads 3-1ed reign so they’re probably the better team

[tawdry hamlet]

In this meta by itself not altogether any comp but like this meta specifically the Reign are better than most of na

[willow tartan]

LAV above toronto?

[next mesa]

Bruh

[shadow dagger]

IMO glads > reign

that’s been said already though i think

[earnest leaf]

That was early on

Atlanta looked really strong today

[shadow dagger]

i didnt watch todays game

so i can’t speak to that

[earnest leaf]

Like Pelican echo diffed nero, and nero was still playing really well

Pelican was a fucking monster

[shadow dagger]

Would he have diffed kevster though?

[earnest leaf]

Yes he would of

[shadow dagger]

JEEZ

[next mesa]

Man was on a mission

[shadow dagger]

Pelican wasn’t getting checked at all then

[earnest leaf]

unironically yes

He was uncontested for so long

[shadow dagger]

I still think birdring or kevster could’ve killed him but those stats look very good

[tropic herald]

Pelican had 53 final blows

Want to guess what the second highest was?

Answer: || 25 by Kai ||

[gusty rampart]

As a NYXL fan

I'm very surprised they made the June Joust

[willow tartan]

I think so is everyone else.

Not to mention how hard they dominated.

[balmy wolf]

NY i think found a perfect counter comp against 'dive'

tho dragons stuck to standard double shield during their matches

[willow tartan]

you think HZ underprepd for match against the nyxl?

[balmy wolf]

no

[willow tartan]

they stuck to their strat and got outplayed

couldnt adjust

[balmy wolf]

i just think they got comp diffed and they didnt have backup plan

[willow tartan]

yeah thats what i mean

[balmy wolf]

tbf everyone didnt know wtf was gonna be hard meta until last min

which apprently is orisa comps variations

[willow tartan]

its the way fearless put it in the interview

"the best comp is different for each team"

[balmy wolf]

but there is a common variable for those comps

[willow tartan]

i wonder how the double shield vs winston rush is gonna play out in shanghai vs dallas

[balmy wolf]

if dragons are the playing the counter version with dva then im putting more stonks in orisa comps

but i just this hero pools to end

its pretty boring imo

[willow tartan]

but how would the NA echos play if there's no dva to duplicate?

[slow lodge]

tfw when the Dva re-mech buff was more of a buff to Echo than it was to Dva

[sullen berry]

that just mean new heroes for echo to duplicate are going to be insane

they'll have those full kits and big health pools to take advantage of, movement is a non-issue when duplicating winston or d.va

[willow tartan]

top tier echo players better dva than low tier off tanks

[buoyant coyote]

What?

Power rankings for na rn?

[sullen berry]

voted david, you're welcome

[buoyant coyote]

Justice wiped Mayham

[sullen berry]

go back to #general-discussion

this is not the place for that

[buoyant coyote]

Super

So is Hanbin, Sparkle, Fielder, Doha, and Jecse. All very good

But he not in league

Diem not in league

[devout path]

Are you ok

Those are from like a month ago

[buoyant coyote]

How’d they get to the June Joust?

They’re must be one sicko who gets every pick ‘em right

You’re joking, right?

[vagrant cargo]

LMAO

Bro wtf is u doing

😭😭😭

[buoyant coyote]

Lol

Lol

[vagrant cargo]

This man on some shrooms

[buoyant coyote]

Dang

[devout path]

Wtf is going on

[buoyant coyote]

Hanbin pretty cracked

[vagrant cargo]

Man

This sjit weird asf

[buoyant coyote]

Thoughts on spark losing to NYXL?

[vagrant cargo]

Surprising

Didnr expect spark to plank that hard

[buoyant coyote]

I think so too

[vagrant cargo]

Also imo the top 3 teams rn are deffo dallas glads and Shanghai

[buoyant coyote]

They 3-0 the Dragons and then Beat Chengdu but lose to NYXL?

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah

Weird asf

[buoyant coyote]

Idk about Glads

[vagrant cargo]

Glads barely lost to dallas

Match was super competitive

[buoyant coyote]

3-1, haven’t watched it yet

[vagrant cargo]

They also seem to get better game to game

[buoyant coyote]

I think the Shock are also blanking

If they get it together they can be really good

[vagrant cargo]

Well map 1 was 99-99 on 2 points, map 2 dallas rolled, map 3 glads rolled harder and map 4 glads choked

[tawdry hamlet]

https://twitter.com/danteh/status/1401726473464168451?s=19

danteh (@danteh)

it's so tilting how people always look for someone to flame after a loss. so many heroes are so dependent on how the rest of the team plays, feels impossible to succeed on certain heroes when the team isn't functioning as a whole. wish people realized this before being so loud

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Twitter · Jun 7, 2021, 2:23 AM

[buoyant coyote]

But I am a Shock fan so I’m biased

[tawdry hamlet]

Based danteh

[vagrant cargo]

Grass is green

[buoyant coyote]

Sky’s blue

[vagrant cargo]

Look at MuZe, Sado or MTs in general

MT is super dependant on team

[buoyant coyote]

Top 3 main tanks?

[vagrant cargo]

Uh

Fearless Mag MuZe id say

Maybe smurf

[buoyant coyote]

Fearless, Smurf, Mag for me

I wasn’t that impressed by Muze

Have to watch more glads games

[devout path]

cough cough FDgod cough cough

[vagrant cargo]

MuZe has been pretty great on oriss

He also barely gets ressources

[buoyant coyote]

I was impressed by Super’s Orisa

Dang

[vagrant cargo]

His mechanics are very good, hes flexible and his playstyle suits glads perfectly

[buoyant coyote]

But Shu and Moth?

[willow tartan]

well maybe people say it because its tilting

tilt enemy = free win

[vagrant cargo]

Moth has been good not top tier this season and shu is focused on dps and space

Because glads dps flank a lot n shit

And space is hyper aggro

[buoyant coyote]

Ok

[tawdry hamlet]

https://twitter.com/smurf_ow/status/1401720010557452288?s=19

smurf (@smurf_ow)

ggs @ATLReign i am sorry for showing bad games today i really wanted win June Joust but they played better they are deserved to win today good luck

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Twitter · Jun 7, 2021, 1:57 AM

😭

[willow tartan]

didnt smurf only play one map

[tawdry hamlet]

It's called, they do a little trolling

They were playing uprising academy

[forest raven]

THE BOYS

[slow lodge]

ass

[tawdry hamlet]

Oh yeah is marbel awake his smugness will be off the charts

[willow tartan]

tfw north america has more than two good teams

[slow lodge]

[spiral kiln]

guys they will not stream nothing today?

[slow lodge]

nope

not till next week

[spiral kiln]

and when they will add the widow skin? i main widow but i have 150 points

[mortal abyss]

Probs next week

[gusty rampart]

They announced a Widow Skin?

[sullen berry]

not stream nothing, yes of course not

You won't get the June Joust skin until you watch at least 10 hours of the tournament starting next week Thursday, so have your streams ready (encore or live)

[loud vessel]

If you watch the live can you get tokens for the encore too

[willow tartan]

They announced a Widow skin?

[tribal canopy]

They announced a Widow Skin?

[little tusk]

Dayumm reign winning 3-0

Now thats smth else

[tribal flint]

They announced a Widow Skin?

v
🦜

[glacial wadi]

I just watched the reign v shock game

holy moly

reign nearly choked on hollywood too

[slow lodge]

two c9's

and still won

[glacial wadi]

yeah especially the way they lost that first point and wiped their team

[balmy wolf]

aloha guys

i just came back from work and watched yesterdays games

pretty expected results tbh

nothing special

everyone pinged me tho and i couldnt be there sadge 😦

https://twitter.com/ow_nero/status/1401707480715915267

nero (@ow_nero)

crazy how the first people to msg me hate are people with #winnable in their bio cba with social media

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Twitter · Jun 7, 2021, 1:08 AM

i feel bad

[forest raven]

Nero

[plush grail]

actual brainlet take by the shock fans

if ur team loses

dont fucking flame them

motivate them

send them nice messages

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[plush grail]

its not like they wanted to lsoe

it must suck for them

[balmy wolf]

disgusting

[forest raven]

Shock fans should be more like me

And not people on twitter

[balmy wolf]

i dont think shock played that bad

[plush grail]

flaming ur team after they lose will just make it worse

they'll have more pressure

[balmy wolf]

they would have won against every other team

[plush grail]

imagine not sending ur team positive messages

can't relate

[forest raven]

Who's that

[plush grail]

onigod

[forest raven]

Sick

[balmy wolf]

youre a gem bro

[plush grail]

after the paris v boston game

he legit did so much work

[little tusk]

lmao

paris fans most wholesome confirmed

I'm proud of this community 🥲

[plush grail]

:)

[cursive plover]

I haven't seen the reign shock game but what the fuck?

[willow tartan]

it was as one sided of an affair as me and my crush in high school

the shock absolutely got bent over and dominated

[balmy wolf]

funny how yall wanted to convince me yesterday that atlanta has a bottom 5 tank line and mediocre supports

take that L shitters

[willow tartan]

like overall?

or in this meta?

[raw ermine]

some nerd a while back tried to convince me seoul would beat the dragons in there qualification match LUL

[balmy wolf]

both

[willow tartan]

imagine

seoul never had a chance

philly had a better chance of winning and they didnt even qualify for knockouts

[balmy wolf]

thats even more fucked up

[trail perch]

I send that message on the 8th…

He didn’t retire yet lol

[tawdry hamlet]

The amount of fdgod hate man I gotta feel so fucking bad for him

He's not a bad player and people treating him like he's plat

😭

[trail perch]

Ima be real, his mercy on second point defense on hanamura was straight up a throw

[balmy wolf]

He does have some questionable play

[trail perch]

He did what every plat mercy does

[tawdry hamlet]

https://twitter.com/FDGod_OW/status/1401715081860116486?s=19

FDGod (@FDGod_OW)

sorry im so ashamed

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Twitter · Jun 7, 2021, 1:38 AM

[trail perch]

Popped valc and just fucked around in the air

[tawdry hamlet]

😭

[trail perch]

In the los of a bob

He wasn’t even healing

He was just flying around above point

While a bob was shooting at him

[raw ermine]

man super jumped outta hawaii

[tawdry hamlet]

No I agree he played like dogshit but the people saying he doesn't deserve a spot in owl are just nuts

[barren quest]

People also completely forgetting about the other players that have played poorly

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah where tf was striker all series

Pelican was unchecked

Same with Kai lmao

That third point Hollywood where pelican stands still just clicking because nobody looked at him lives in my head

[willow tartan]

you dont play prow like you play ranked

[balmy wolf]

super and choi played rlly well on hollywood

[tawdry hamlet]

Dps and supports had really really bad games

Nero looked kind of passable but striker violet and fdgod

They had some bad bad games unfortunately

[balmy wolf]

nero played good

pelican is just miles ahead

[raw ermine]

viol2t got picked alot

[balmy wolf]

never seen a guy dominate so hard

i thought leave was better but now i gotta say pelican is the best echo

[tired zodiac]

fdgod had it rough

[little tusk]

naga best echo 😎

dude I feel like all these shock players have a gun pointed towards their head that if they lose they gotta post about it on twitter

"I'm sorry I'm so ashamed"

"I'm going to kill myself sorry"

"Please someone replace my miserable existence with that of a worm, sorry for this loss"

"My parents should've never birthed me I'm sorry"

like calm down buddy it's just a game

[balmy wolf]

?

[raw ermine]

they're used to winning, and losing is new for them

FDgod likely feels he's the reason, as he's replacing moth, the best MS in the league

[balmy wolf]

his lucio was fine

[tired zodiac]

he got picked too hard on mercy

yus

honestly the way dallas is dominating is scary

[little tusk]

moth the best ms???

damn idk about that he doesn't look that amazing at all on glads

[raw ermine]

well at one point

[willow tartan]

no ans no rascal no moth no ez dub

[tawdry hamlet]

I miss ans 😭

[little tusk]

ans is failing in valorant

[willow tartan]

he played?

whats his debut?

[tired zodiac]

imagine playing valorant

[balmy wolf]

yeah valorant sucks

[next mesa]

when

[ivory stag]

Kephrii reading this conv: Surprised pikachu face.

[tropic herald]

I have to imagine, even not watching closely that FD died first a lot but I can probably go back and find that a lot of them weren’t necessarily his fault Bc he went to help someone on the team or Viol2t just ignored him

At somepoint FD dying first is less his fault and more his team not compensating or even trying to help him

[devout path]

@balmy wolf I believed always bb

[balmy wolf]

im so happy holy shit

boston better than shock btw

[devout path]

No

[balmy wolf]

yes

[devout path]

Valentine > Nero

[balmy wolf]

yes

[devout path]

Valentine checked pelican and contested him

[balmy wolf]

yeah but valentine cant do it all

[devout path]

Stand1 fed

[balmy wolf]

hate to see it

[devout path]

That was the diff

[balmy wolf]

im37 is meh aswell

[devout path]

And im37

Yeah

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah 😭 Im37 imo is the biggest weakpoint after stand1

[devout path]

Both are really good at feeding

[next mesa]

faith

is kinda bad

[devout path]

Everyone else is fairly decent

[balmy wolf]

gbs is crazy tho

[devout path]

Valentine is as good as pelican

[balmy wolf]

but hawks dva is better imo

[devout path]

Myunbong is myunbong

[balmy wolf]

dva is hard meta rn

[devout path]

I’d take myunbong over lr1s

[balmy wolf]

hmm

iris is cracked

[devout path]

True but myunbong

[tawdry hamlet]

Imo, myunbong off like two heroes kind of meh, and pelican although I'm a Boston believer is likely mechanically better than valentine

[balmy wolf]

you gotta admit he outclassed myun

atleast on bap

[plush grail]

lily

stfu

[next mesa]

really

[balmy wolf]

yes

[tawdry hamlet]

If myun was as good on every hero as he was on ana he'd be fucking nuts

[balmy wolf]

rlly

[next mesa]

hm

[plush grail]

kaan > myunbong

[next mesa]

then what is gbs good at

[balmy wolf]

no u

[next mesa]

punk better than him at sig

[plush grail]

no i will talk

i am important

[balmy wolf]

gbs zarya

i lost

[tawdry hamlet]

Kaan is just European violet loll

[balmy wolf]

important for comedic relief

[devout path]

At like

Bap

That’s it

[plush grail]

no

bap and ana

for sure

[balmy wolf]

no

[devout path]

No

[balmy wolf]

sry

[plush grail]

kaan also has a good zen

[balmy wolf]

kaan better

[devout path]

No

[tawdry hamlet]

Ana is close

[balmy wolf]

yes

[tawdry hamlet]

But other heroes Kaan better

[plush grail]

last year myunbong ana was better

but this year

he isn't anything special

at all

[tawdry hamlet]

Last year myunbong was way better yeah

[balmy wolf]

1 thing is important

[next mesa]

myunbong has a top tier ana

very nice

[balmy wolf]

atlanta >>> paris > boston

[devout path]

Wow marbel

[tawdry hamlet]

I wish Boston got a good hitscan 😭

[devout path]

I see how it is

[tawdry hamlet]

Im37 sux

[next mesa]

i go twilight alarm fielder myunbong perhaps

[plush grail]

lily u enjoying ur onigod cree skin?

[devout path]

I wish Boston had a main tank

[balmy wolf]

the truth hurts

[devout path]

I don’t play cree

[tawdry hamlet]

I prefer soon to im37 on tracer and ashe lmaoo

[plush grail]

????????

[devout path]

I’m enjoying the away skin that looks like the Washington justice

[devout path]

Still true

[balmy wolf]

i prefer soon on anything

[tawdry hamlet]

[devout path]

Im37 popped off like one time

[balmy wolf]

dont take her srsly she said stand1 > gator

[devout path]

Ok well that’s a lie

[plush grail]

wrong pronouns dumbass

i think

[next mesa]

im37 cree isnt bad either

[balmy wolf]

what?

[devout path]

True

But like

[next mesa]

vey go by vey/vem

[hot onyx]

please tell me you're meming

[balmy wolf]

this is where the problem begins

you cant think

[plush grail]

i am very big brain

[devout path]

Luigi is right

[plush grail]

i only root for top tier players and teams

[next mesa]

according to boston

why does punk always come in to play sig

[balmy wolf]

whats vey/vem?

sry im german idk

[next mesa]

i mean his sig is good but like

[devout path]

Like the team that didn’t make qualifiers :)

[devout path]

Pronouns

[tropic herald]

Y’all hyping up GBS but that man didn’t eat a single dynamite on Anubis

[hot onyx]

according to the same org that can barely go one year without signing a predator

[balmy wolf]

i was that far

[plush grail]

remember when he failed in contendies trials

[balmy wolf]

dw ill google it

[hot onyx]

remember when gbs had a good mt partner?

me neither

[devout path]

Stand1 sadge

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/fusion/status/1401896782829801482?s=21

Philadelphia Fusion (@Fusion)

Hmmmm....Looks like someone will join the squad soon...👀 https://t.co/X6A13J7Jpw

Twitter · Jun 7, 2021, 1:40 PM

[plush grail]

this u??? @hot onyx

[devout path]

OH GOD OH FUCK

WAIT

FUCK NO PLEASE

[next mesa]

oh my god

astro is coming

[hot onyx]

WAIT HUH

[next mesa]

wait does that mean

[hot onyx]

lemme get my phone

[tropic herald]

Why do I hear boss music

[devout path]

Boss music incoming

[next mesa]

poko and shockwave

[devout path]

I’m scared now

Luckily my team is na

And will never make top 4

[plush grail]

ur team is shit

[devout path]

I don’t have to deal with that team

[plush grail]

like ur personality

[devout path]

So is paris idiot

[balmy wolf]

lol

says u luigi

[plush grail]

paris still beat boston

[hot onyx]

COMEDY KING RETURNS

[devout path]

Who made it to qualifiers

Yeah

[tropic herald]

Why does Paris get easy sos then Florida doesn’t

[hot onyx]

Astro & the koreans according to chat that one time

dynamic duo

[balmy wolf]

@devout path @plush grail it doesnt matter you both got 3-0ed 🙂

[devout path]

True true

[limber pine]

https://twitter.com/FunnyAstro/status/1401895312763981826

FunnyAstro (@FunnyAstro)

Who can guess where I am? 👀

Twitter · Jun 7, 2021, 1:34 PM

[tawdry hamlet]

Meanwhile philly the only team I ever wish to do well loses their shot to valiant

[devout path]

Valentine > Nero

[devout path]

I’m scared

[limber pine]

he got there just in time for the Jun...

oh wait

[hot onyx]

shut

[plush grail]

yo thats my house

[hot onyx]

heartache outdated

[plush grail]

dont boop me

astro pls

[hot onyx]

2nd place overrated

long have i waited

[trail perch]

you mean ljg pls???

[balmy wolf]

lol fusion fans malding

[hot onyx]

comedy king activated

[trail perch]

Lijang tower go brrrrrrrrrr

[tropic herald]

Shanghai still gonna beat Fusion but yeah maybe fusion gets to quals this time :)

[hot onyx]

watch he comes to korea and next thing you know we get a mercy meta for summer showdown and lucio gets taken out of the pool for the countdown cup

[tropic herald]

I could see that Bc rein got nerfed

[devout path]

Nerf echo

[balmy wolf]

nerf bap

[tropic herald]

Nerf hitscan

[tawdry hamlet]

No they'll get knocked out by charge in a 2-3 reverse sweep and not even make it to knockouts calling it now

😭

[balmy wolf]

nerf dva

nerf aoe healing

[devout path]

Nerf pelican

[balmy wolf]

remove 1 tank

[balmy wolf]

pls no

[devout path]

Plz yes

I want top tier echo player

[trail perch]

Buff valentine

He needs it

Looking worse than nero

[tropic herald]

Buff LeeJaeGon

[balmy wolf]

you cant handle his dominance

pelican supremacy

[plush grail]

naga

[tawdry hamlet]

[devout path]

Wh

[balmy wolf]

comedy king striking again

[tawdry hamlet]

Naga and danned are some of the best echos in the world lowkey they deserve respect

[plush grail]

i hate all of u except for bbq man

[hot onyx]

why is nobody talking about 4th Dimension?

underrated gems for contenders

[devout path]

Wait who’s the other person

[balmy wolf]

most importantly you hate yourself

[hot onyx]

ex bh fdps

[plush grail]

I do hate myself but thats not related to this

[balmy wolf]

dw we love you

[tawdry hamlet]

Who?

[devout path]

Marbel I love you

[plush grail]

ew skip

[tropic herald]

TheHolyPig

[balmy wolf]

i love myself too ty

[devout path]

Wow ok fuck you

[hot onyx]

if ariel and TheHolyPig goes one more year without getting into owl i will start a riot and i expect you all to join me

[devout path]

!!leave

[balmy wolf]

jk ❤️ xD

[young fractal]

Lily (vey/vem) left the chat.

[plush grail]

!!tinder @balmy wolf

[young fractal]

Friendly reminder; this isn’t tinder, so please take flirting to DMs/other servers. Thanks! @green heron

[hot onyx]

based

[balmy wolf]

if youre on tinder i might install

[devout path]

Wait that pings now?

[plush grail]

ESPORTS

[plush grail]

im not on the market my man

[tawdry hamlet]

Danned was the echo player for hurricane when they had their giant win streak, him and naga traded best Eu echo back and forth

[hot onyx]

Jaynes greatest invention

[plush grail]

literal who???

[balmy wolf]

didnt you get rejected???

[plush grail]

what contenders scene do they play in

[devout path]

Taken by your mom

[hot onyx]

EU

[plush grail]

legit never heard of them

[hot onyx]

maybe they get signed to Parisd

they were the team Funi off roled against in trials

[tropic herald]

TheHolyPig > Naga

[hot onyx]

truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue

[balmy wolf]

why do we always get back to bullying luigi

[tawdry hamlet]

4th dimension cool and all but they didn't even get past open division

[balmy wolf]

i feel bad

[tawdry hamlet]

So what happened if they are so good

[balmy wolf]

but at the same time i dont

[hot onyx]

unlucky with the meta

+Andreyko mad holding them back

[plush grail]

fun fact paris is the best team

meta is just bad for them

[hot onyx]

the meta is bad for Paris every tourney unless they have EM influence

[plush grail]

[tawdry hamlet]

Paris don't have Nico hence their lack of success obviously Nico was their biggest loss in the off season

[tropic herald]

Luigi

[hot onyx]

copecopecopecope

wheres my fusion cope?

[plush grail]

why me

im not claiming a shitty trials team is top tier

[tawdry hamlet]

Lowkey I've never been a fan of a team mostly just specific rosters but this philly team lowkey gonna make me act up

[hot onyx]

you call them shit yet you've never watched them play smh bad analyst

[plush grail]

well the rule is

if u like it

it's shit

if i like it, they're good

[tawdry hamlet]

He does a little trolling

[hot onyx]

ladies gentlemen and non binary indivuduals

[plush grail]

indivuduals

[hot onyx]

i would like to announce that i am now a fan of the Paris Eternal

[tawdry hamlet]

Lolll

[plush grail]

no u lost this argument

u made a typo

''indivuduals''

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot onyx]

fukc

shut up i'm british i don't speak good english

[plush grail]

hey sans

do u think ur fav team is gonna make it to the finals

even once?

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk if it's a hot take but na t2 severely underrated, the skill gap nowadays is way smaller than it used to be

[mighty pivot]

what

[balmy wolf]

never qualified

[mighty pivot]

?????????????????????

what

[balmy wolf]

philly choking

[plush grail]

stop talking

[hot onyx]

not choking more than Shock

[plush grail]

EU >>>>>>>>>>>>> CN > KR >>>>>>>>>> NA

[hot onyx]

Fusion has lost 0 matches 0-3

[tawdry hamlet]

Tf you mean cn t2 take a fat shit on eu

[hot onyx]

Shock lost 2 matches 0-3

[plush grail]

no

[hot onyx]

Shock has Viol2t

[tawdry hamlet]

I miss team cc 😭

[hot onyx]

Philly doesn't

[plush grail]

u have hotba

stfu

[hot onyx]

for now

wait until the eu gap comes into play

[balmy wolf]

just like reign

but they qualified

[tawdry hamlet]

Is Joobi really dog at mercy or do they just prefer the Jake look in Houston

Like why does Joobi never play dorado lmao

[hot onyx]

not in the may melee

[balmy wolf]

?

look at the scores

[tawdry hamlet]

Ok so who's better, Joobi or Ansoonjae

[balmy wolf]

joobi

[hot onyx]

Neptuno

[plush grail]

DRIDRO

[tawdry hamlet]

Also aztac was one my favorite prospects coming in and he's gotten a single map

😭

Aztac has played the same amount of games as beast 🤢🤮🤢

Despite Ansoonjae lastro constantly underperforming

[next mesa]

aztacccccc

[hot onyx]

Aztac got subbed in on that one Gibraltar map they lost to Titans

[tawdry hamlet]

Ok talk about a bad main tank even shredlock diffs beast unironically it's fucking crazy

That was the map they played beast Logix aztac lmao

[hot onyx]

Aztac should’ve been played over Lastro since day 1

Mans an absolute beast

[tawdry hamlet]

Hot take lastro super overrated he's like kariv tier

[hot onyx]

One of the best flex supports coming out of contenders getting benched for the funny man who referenced intercourse and large genitalia

Name a more iconic duo

[tawdry hamlet]

Haha he so funny my man funnylastro

[next mesa]

yeah he is kariv tier

kariv tier isnt that bad tho

[tawdry hamlet]

It's like high B imo

Tier not highbee the player

[next mesa]

ik ik

[tawdry hamlet]

Mandu unironically not bad but charge main tank leaves a lot to be desired, crong has a decent sigma and dva at least but Rio just exists

[hot onyx]

Rio barely exists correctly

Mans literally StandDumb tier

[vagrant cargo]

Reign are in a weird spot

Mfs overrated them pre season

And now act as if they are bottom 5

[balmy wolf]

truuuue

[vagrant cargo]

Went from overrate to underrated in a week lmfao

[balmy wolf]

i get we were overrated

[vagrant cargo]

Yall fosho top 5 in NA rn

[balmy wolf]

we lose some close matches against good teams

and we are bad

like what??

[vagrant cargo]

I have it 1.Dallas 2.Glads 3.shock 4.justice 5.atl

[next mesa]

whos better

[balmy wolf]

tbh the toronto loss was scuffed

[vagrant cargo]

Outside of current heropools

[next mesa]

crimzo or lastro

[tawdry hamlet]

Kai pickup was massive when valiant died

[vagrant cargo]

Crimzo rn

Lastro has been ass

[balmy wolf]

crimzp 100%

[vagrant cargo]

Crimzo has been aight

[hot onyx]

Honestly Crimzo

[next mesa]

yeah fair

[vagrant cargo]

Eventho crimzo is crazy overrated

[tawdry hamlet]

I know he gets laughed at for always saying he was better and Dallas held him back a lot but high-key Crimzo been fucking this season

[vagrant cargo]

Eh

Hes decent

[next mesa]

who the hell is this

[vagrant cargo]

Statpads way to much

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean by comparison to last season at least, he's not like amazing

[vagrant cargo]

He was the same last season too tbh

[hot onyx]

I mean I had Crimzo in the bottom 3 for flex supports coming into the season so he’s outperformed my expectations

[tawdry hamlet]

Kind of like closer, not amazing but improved a lot

[vagrant cargo]

Based

[tawdry hamlet]

I think it's more up to coaching diff

Not actual improvement

Junkbuck god coach

[next mesa]

crimzois bottom 3

[tawdry hamlet]

Worst na flex supports? Ripa lastro Roolf?

[next mesa]

whats a good tierlist

on tiermaker

sauce

[hot onyx]

I had bottom 5 fs as Roolf Wya Crimzo Ripa and Bebe

[vagrant cargo]

Based

[next mesa]

bebe is not bottom 5 anymore

[hot onyx]

Replace Crimzo with Lastro and the list is still accurate imo

[tawdry hamlet]

When kariv got killed by ljg mercy pistol in the pre season show matches my charge hope kind of died lmaoo

[next mesa]

how yall rate creative

[hot onyx]

It’s a push to say Bebe > Myunbong or Kaan

[next mesa]

really

id agree

[tropic herald]

i feel like creative got overrrated but hes solid

[hot onyx]

Reasonably

[next mesa]

creative was popping in preseason matches

but then hes been like

[hot onyx]

Upgrade to Bdosin but not too 5

[next mesa]

high B

[tropic herald]

also i bet creative isnt a toxic shithead so thats another buff

[hot onyx]

True

[next mesa]

its too bad bdosin was toxic though

he was honestly still top

[hot onyx]

Although it’s harder to get a more toxic flex support

[next mesa]

mechanics wise

ik crusty really likes bdosin

[hot onyx]

Unless you’re queuing support in your ranked games and get matched with Viol2t

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't recall BDOSIN being toxic but I only really remember grand finals BDOSIN

[hot onyx]

I’d rather forget grand finals

And I’d rather remember

Uhhh

Uhhhhhhh

Regular season of season 3 NA

[next mesa]

man seoul really had a good chance of winning busan

but nooooooooooooooooooooo FITSSSSSSSSSSSS

[kind ridge]

they was clowning

[next mesa]

and ans just reeeeeeeeeeeee

[kind ridge]

they also had beast there sooo

[hot onyx]

Why didn’t Numblocked get nominated for MVP last year?

[mortal abyss]

Astro is in koreaaaa

[buoyant coyote]

What’s your guys’ favorite teams? Which team is the best to you rn?

[balmy wolf]

reign

[raw ermine]

favourite is toronto
Best, is probably either reign, or fuel

[stuck radish]

i just realized shock has now lost to atlanta twice

sure its 2 years apart

but still

[devout path]

My favorite team is Boston best team is either Shanghai or Dallas

Probs Dallas

[balmy wolf]

na gonna roll apac

ppl bet on apac everytime

[devout path]

Reign is actually gonna get a game

[balmy wolf]

and na wins in the end

[devout path]

Reign gonna win a game cuz spark threw

[balmy wolf]

yeah

nyxl gets bodied

[devout path]

Reign gonna win a game cuz valiant did something

[balmy wolf]

only shanghai is competitive

ty molanran

i love you

[devout path]

Shanghai philly spark Chengdu are competitive

Spark and Chengdu cuz shy leave ga9a

[balmy wolf]

every team besides shanghai loses to top na teams

[devout path]

Depends

I don’t think philly loses to some top na teams

[balmy wolf]

boston not a top team lily

[tropic herald]

shanghai gonna smack reign minimumly

[balmy wolf]

dont think about it

[devout path]

Reign just beats nyxl 3-1 then loses to Dallas then loses to Shanghai

Shock would’ve been so much more interesting

[balmy wolf]

i have reign winning it all

cause im delusional

[tropic herald]

reign winning it all

[devout path]

Ur delusional

[tropic herald]

is so unlikely

the tank diff is gonna be massive

agaisnt dallas and shanghai

[devout path]

Fearless could solo tank and beat gator and hawk

[balmy wolf]

damn you guys still hate gator

i dont understand

[tropic herald]

i dont hate gator hawk

but sorry

fearless hanbin

fate void

SAD !

[balmy wolf]

theyll lose ds mirror

theyll win neogoats

[tropic herald]

i dont think shanghai is gonna even play monkey

[balmy wolf]

call me biased

but hawks dva is top tier

[devout path]

Against fearless hanbin????

Are you ok

Void > hawk

Fate > gator

Actually

They’re like equal

Lip fleta > pelican kai

[balmy wolf]

as soon as the focus is on dps

reign wins

pelican diffing the mvp

[devout path]

No

Pelican was barely better than valentine

[balmy wolf]

we didnt watch the same game

[devout path]

Yeah you were high or something

[balmy wolf]

maybe

high on happiness

[tired zodiac]

anyone got a favourite ow caster team lol

[balmy wolf]

uber