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#esports-discussion
earnest leaf
forest token
nah I think atl beats the KR teams
raw ermine
ohhh
stuck radish
he certainly was
balmy wolf
nah I think atl beats the KR teams
HAHAHAHAhfgh
earnest leaf
their macro was straight worse
cursive glen
yes he was the main issue today but dude u dont fire someone that performs good last year and their team is still 7-1
like h oly shit
verbal gorge
whats the point of blaming the mercy? is the mercy supposed to pull out her gun and kill the flanking echo?
forest token
KR is absolutely monstrous on dive, but they hopped on the orisa train late
warm pelican
Notice Pelican challenge - failed.
warm pelican
whats the point of blaming the mercy? is the mercy supposed to pull out her gun ...
she is supposed to not die
devout path
whats the point of blaming the mercy? is the mercy supposed to pull out her gun ...
The mercy is supposed to not die
warm pelican
play corners
mortal cipher
my goodness
warm pelican
stay safe
tribal canopy
Lost to fucking gator monkey
stuck radish
just like other games shock lost
forest token
like
stuck radish
Lost to fucking gator monkey
true lmao
verbal gorge
sure u could say that
next current
Super threw
fast tusk
pelicarry
forest token
reign pulled out the orisa week one of this tourney
verbal gorge
if ur whole team is playing like ass how the fuck do u not die?
warm pelican
Mercy is not supposed to die first every fight no matter how bad ur team is
remote siren
Shock= season 2 nyxl
forest token
KR is only just now hopping on that
remote siren
cmv
warm pelican
if ur whole team is playing like ass how the fuck do u not die?
play super safe
forest token
hah
remote siren
Shock have the same skill level as season 2 nyxl
umbral sapphire
I dont think fdgod threw, I think echo just went uncontested the whole game
remote siren
you can't deny it
verbal gorge
maybe fdgod shouldnt have connected so he wouldnt get flamed 🙂
lean spear
pelican just carried the whole game, i dont blame fdgod
he kept dying to an uncontested echo
earnest leaf
Yea pelican legit didn't get shot at
umbral sapphire
super safe
lmao super is prbly worth more to SFS as a streamer than as a player
remote siren
have won 0 maps in both playoffs btw
sullen berry
yep, shock
warm pelican
@verbal gorge when pelican flanked fdgod on shock attack, fdgod didnt even look to the right and notice a flank
cursive glen
he shouldnt have accepted the shock offer so he doesnt have to deal with salty plat shock fans
warm pelican
Mercy is supposed to be the flank watcher for her team
forest token
nah having super cover the rein is nice
cursive glen
that cry after 1 loss
supple prism
sideshow is wearing suspenders?
forest token
since smurf is gigachad monki
verbal gorge
sure thing buddy
forest token
I don't know why they ran him on the orisa though
stuck radish
he shouldnt have accepted the shock offer so he doesnt have to deal with salty p...
you're pretty obsessed with shock fans arent you
sullen berry
ngl, glister should scare people when he is on a contant hot streak
remote siren
Im not a shock fan
tawdry hamlet
he certainly was
Definitely an issue but pelican had no check at all so he could free rein all over a defenseless mercy
fast tusk
atlanta played out of there minds
hollow river
shock need their rein back lol
remote siren
If I was one I wouldnt be flaming fdgod so hard
cursive glen
you're pretty obsessed with shock fans arent you
i mean just look at you guys crying and saying fire x after 1 fking loss lmao
sullen berry
these weren't ez 3-0 matches
devout path
Definitely an issue but pelican had no check at all so he could free rein all ov...
Valentine at least checked pelican
forest token
they'd look much better this week
balmy wolf
fdgod didnt really do good though
cursive glen
im sure you as a professional plat chat can say that @stuck radish
sullen berry
we're only halfway into season 4 and just look at whose going to Hawaii
stuck radish
Definitely an issue but pelican had no check at all so he could free rein all ov...
yes but there were times when he died to the orisa
cursive glen
maybe he should listen to you and retire and you take his palce instead 😄
warm pelican
i didnt watch the entire match but fdgod died first a lot of the fights
stuck radish
the orisa
tribal canopy
i mean just look at you guys crying and saying fire x after 1 fking loss lmao
It isnt 1 fucking loss. And of course everybody is salty after a loss thats nornal for fans
devout path
Guess I’m gonna have to vod review the shock Atlanta match
balmy wolf
atl didnt deserve that at all
brisk palm
Shock getting roll
lean spear
im a huge sfs fan but i acknowledge the team diffs too
umbral sapphire
i didnt watch the entire match but fdgod died first a lot of the fights
did you see pelican never getting contested?
balmy wolf
you know whos in the june joust
sullen berry
NYXL vs Atlanta
Shanghai vs Dallas
balmy wolf
right?
cursive glen
It isnt 1 fucking loss. And of course everybody is salty after a loss thats norn...
not really. paris for example is literally always positive and supportive after losses and im pretty ysure msot other teams are as well
lean spear
atlanta as a whole popped off
devout path
NYXL vs Atlanta
Shanghai vs Dallas
Damn
tawdry hamlet
He definitely played like shit yeah I'm not lying 🤥 there but I can't help but point out the gap between echo
balmy wolf
nyxl will fucking roll
barren quest
Custa is going to have a field day with this one
warm pelican
did you see pelican never getting contested?
yes but mercy shouldnt be the first to die period also he didnt watch a lot of the flanks
sullen berry
hollow river
mercy diff
stuck radish
shock tanks played ok
verbal gorge
nyxl will fucking roll
x to doubt, i think they hard overperformed and spark underperformed today
stuck radish
the rest was so bad
balmy wolf
that so ugly
brisk palm
Fdgod die first
remote siren
@verbal gorge You dont eblieve in any team
fast tusk
im actually shaking, im so happy atl won
forest token
y'know what would make spectating owl better
balmy wolf
its the atl
forest token
a minimap
sullen berry
what, you mean top teams in the qualifiers getting knocked out?
balmy wolf
come on
remote siren
You were rooting for the number one seed
devout path
lol I might just straight up vod review the shock Atlanta game with commentary
remote siren
who does that?
balmy wolf
the Atlanta Reign isnt gonna go far
verbal gorge
<@!133023324493185026> You dont eblieve in any team
of course i dont believe in any team, im a fucking houston fan
balmy wolf
You were rooting for the number one seed
who
warm pelican
im gonna try to review fdgods gameplay hehe
verbal gorge
also im not rooting for the number one seed
remote siren
@verbal gorge Im so sorry
tawdry hamlet
I get being annoyed that the on paper better team lost but the point of best of 5 is to allow teams who might have a bad game a chance. It's not like in the super bowl teams can have a bad game but get 2 rematches lmao
forest token
like... when spectating val and cod so much of my time is just spend staring at the minimap
remote siren
for everything I just said
verbal gorge
im rooting for whoever plays the least neo goats at this point
remote siren
god bless
forest token
and in owl there are times where I want to check how someone's priming or how a fight in another part of the map is going
and I can't
a permanent minimap would solve that
warm pelican
review a owl players gameplay
not for him for myself to see if i can see the mistakes he made? Thats beneficial to my learning too
stuck radish
review a owl players gameplay
a gm mercy otp wouldve done better
warm pelican
literally
stuck radish
and you cant tell me im wrong when he died first all the time
devout path
a gm mercy otp wouldve done better
That’s just not true
cursive glen
no
stuck radish
you cant do worse than that
balmy wolf
a gm mercy otp wouldve done better
the smurf mercys we get in our games
cursive glen
he wouldnt
remote siren
If moth was in
cursive glen
u legit dont understand the gap between gm and pro play
warm pelican
a gm mercy otp wouldve done better with scrims with the team
balmy wolf
shock has no mercy player
remote siren
they would have won map 3
verbal gorge
nothing wrong with reviewing owl game play, its helpful to see intention behind the movements
sullen berry
^
stuck radish
u legit dont understand the gap between gm and pro play
you also dont understand that you literally cannot do worse than dying first every fight
devout path
Owl players are 1000x better than any gm/t500 player
verbal gorge
sometimes we dont see certain things captured on broadcast
cause overwatch is so hard to spectate
remote siren
@devout path ???????
warm pelican
Owl players are 1000x better than any gm/t500 player
not when they are a lucio otp playing mercy in owl
tawdry hamlet
Anyway shock played bad and Atlanta played great 
woohoo 🎉
cursive glen
you also dont understand that you literally cannot do worse than dying first eve...
you really think some gm mercy wouldnt do the same dude. a casual gm player would legit get demolished by coordinated pro players
devout path
not when they are a lucio otp playing mercy in owl
Fd is not a lucio otp
cursive glen
delusional
balmy wolf
highbee > ml7
next current
"really easy" -kai
warm pelican
im pretty sure he is
balmy wolf
is what you mean to tell me
remote siren
Woah slow your roll man
devout path
You’re thinking of funnyastro
forest token
I can't see wtf happened this first fdgod death
devout path
/s
remote siren
Fdgod is a lucio one trick
warm pelican
is fd on top 500 leader board and if he is what place is he
balmy wolf
does la valiant even count as owl players
forest token
are the games on the owl viewer yet
tawdry hamlet
Kai
remote siren
I dont think his mercy would get him past masters
stuck radish
you really think some gm mercy wouldnt do the same dude. a casual gm player woul...
if they did do the same, then it wouldnt matter because they would both be dying first anyway
devout path
highbee > ml7
That’s moreso contenders but yeah
frank torrent
Fdgod is just consistently less than his pedigree would imply
stuck radish
bring back moth
warm pelican
are the games on the owl viewer yet
someone said they are going to be uploaded thursday
shut fossil
did the 2 time world champions just lose ?
forest token
rip
remote siren
3-0
brisk palm
Shock play fd on Lucio most of the time they should have switch
balmy wolf
shouldve put in moth
remote siren
blow out
frank torrent
Again
balmy wolf
oh wait
remote siren
not even close
devout path
Plus ml7 is fs highbee is main support
remote siren
Just like last time
forest token
it's really, really hard to actually look at anything without it
remote siren
2x world champs
shut fossil
now that's just a flawless victory
sullen berry
did the 2 time world champions just lose ?
second time coming into tournament playoffs
tawdry hamlet
It was a team gap I can promise you fdgod had a shit series and played like dog ass but you can't say a 6-2 record makes him bad ðŸ˜
wicked pendant
A veritable fountain of Charisma, Kai is.
forest token
I straight up can't see what happened
devout path
Wya is definitely better than ml7
remote siren
havent won a single map in the playoffs yet
devout path
Every flex support in the league is better than ml7
remote siren
I havent been this angry since I was an nyxl fan in season 2
verbal gorge
speaking of flex supports, kaan is cracked i got my eye on him
warm pelican
fd god has 200 hours on mercy in ladder like thats definitely not enough to play in owl
balmy wolf
the flanking moira
devout path
Kaan is cracked true
devout path
fd god has 200 hours on mercy in ladder like thats definitely not enough to play...
Ladder is irrelevant
remote siren
And the nyxl were the kings of making you want to kill yourself when you saw them in the playoffs
warm pelican
especially when he hasnt touched her until this season basically
forest token
shock played against team that's been grinding the orisa since the start of the tournament
warm pelican
ok nvm he played her a lot in season 25
devout path
Ladder is literally the most irrelevant stat you can bring to an owl game
earnest leaf
I think shock scrimmed and practiced the lucio moira comp a lot more than the mercy one
verbal gorge
fd god has 200 hours on mercy in ladder like thats definitely not enough to play...
whats he supposed to do? refuse to play mercy? hold his team hostage? lmao
forest token
as a team that has not been grinding the orisa since the start of the tournament
sullen berry
And the nyxl were the kings of making you want to kill yourself when you saw th...
homie you got to take a chill pill if your favourite team loses
forest token
like
devout path
I think shock scrimmed and practiced the lucio moira comp a lot more than the me...
Most likely
warm pelican
Ladder is literally the most irrelevant stat you can bring to an owl game
thats the only stat we have available to us
forest token
it definitely looked like shock were leaning more into the monkey rush
than the orisa
and uhhh
devout path
thats the only stat we have available to us
Statslab
balmy wolf
atl is gonna fucking lose june joust anyways
forest token
I still think that the orisa's straight up better
balmy wolf
who cares
forest token
so
remote siren
Im not a shock fan for the last time
brisk palm
Smurf carry as much as he can
remote siren
im just a toxic person
balmy wolf
first team out
devout path
I still think that the orisa's straight up better
Depends on map
remote siren
There's a difference
barren quest
Even Shock got beat on the monkey rush
cursive glen
you legit have fd's stats from last season of owl were he wa undepatably a top3 flex sup in na
tawdry hamlet
I havent been this angry since I was an nyxl fan in season 2
Me when philly loses to Shanghai in knockouts by 2 meters and then in June joust 3-0 charge 2-0 valiant and have paved the way to knockouts redemption woohoo then boom 
happen 😠😠ðŸ˜
forest token
outside of koth I think the orisa's just better
balmy wolf
literally shock fans
get the enjoyment of watcking atl get smoked by apac
forest token
except maybe on like
devout path
you legit have fd's stats from last season of owl were he wa undepatably a top3 ...
Exactly
forest token
numbani 1st
warm pelican
you legit have fd's stats from last season of owl were he wa undepatably a top3 ...
did he play mercy
cursive glen
did he play mercy
yes he did
verbal gorge
get the enjoyment of watcking atl get smoked by apac
good. i love apac
apac is just 100x more enjoyable to watch
warm pelican
yes he did
oh i didnt watch then
sullen berry
Me when philly loses to Shanghai in knockouts by 2 meters and then in June joust...
in a way, philly lost to the valiant, letting them take one map win off them
ornate rose
damn everyone hating on fdgod in yt chat
forest token
apac's been hopping on the orisa too
remote siren
Fdgod is a great MS
Lucio**
tawdry hamlet
I thought apac was going to crush na but then every time they meet the na teams win 
And I look dumb eating my words
verbal gorge
apac's been hopping on the orisa too
yeah but with a ton of variation
forest token
y'know, what atl has been running since day 1 of june joust
NA is ahead of KR meta wise
forest token
straight up
sullen berry
seriously, where were you all during the offseason?
warm pelican
sfs shoudlve signed up boost4feet in place of fdgod for mercy LMAO
sullen berry
none of this is news to the three of us here regularly
devout path
I might just watch fdgod play an analyze the games
cursive glen
and yes fd obviously had a bad game and his mercy is worse than his brig and lucio for example but what some of you are saying like "a random gm mercy would do better" or my personal favourite "im diamond and i could do better"
devout path
I want to see what is happening
forest token
lol I remember the houston vs. shock loss early on
balmy wolf
I want to see what is happening
feed
earnest leaf
Yall would get dicked on if you had to play vs pelican kai lmao
warm pelican
and yes fd obviously had a bad game and his mercy is worse than his brig and luc...
a random gm mercy with scrims would do better yes
warm pelican
without scrims no
devout path
This isn’t LJG
forest token
where you had things like super walking two feet to the left and not shielding striker's cree ult
sullen berry
the only VOD I want to watch is the one where the crowd screams for LeeJaeGon's boops on Lijiang Tower
tawdry hamlet
Indeed
forest token
shock are always slow to learn shit
tawdry hamlet
Was awesome
devout path
a random gm mercy with scrims would do better yes
Still no
forest token
but once they learn it jesus christ are they good at it
cursive glen
a random gm mercy with scrims would do better yes
then why wouldnt they hire a random gm mercy
balmy wolf
FirstDeath God
earnest leaf
Random GM mercys are otp that only hit gm off duoing with a dps player lmao
cursive glen
cause youre talking bullshit thats why
earnest leaf
They wouldn't do better
devout path
You still underestimate the skill gap between gm anything and owl
sullen berry
^
balmy wolf
what the fd secretly stands for
cursive glen
exactly lmao
devout path
There is such a massive gap there
slow lodge
who else here pred for Atlanta
warm pelican
@cursive glen no idea probably because a lot of gm mercies dont meet qualifications to be in owl
verbal gorge
maybe the random gm mercies would be able to mind control pelican into missing his shots
balmy wolf
and they will lose to apac
verbal gorge
u never know
tawdry hamlet
cause I did
Mad lad
warm pelican
You still underestimate the skill gap between gm anything and owl
the difference here is that fdgod doesnt play mercy as much as gm mercies
slow lodge
cursive glen
<@!223432334236450816> no idea probably because a lot of gm mercies dont meet qu...
no its because the gap is so fking massive that its like putting a plat support into a gm game
slow lodge
I was doubting after seeing how good Glad was doing
devout path
the difference here is that fdgod doesnt play mercy as much as gm mercies
That’s also not true
remote siren
FDGod can not play anything other than lucio, he's a skill player but thats just the world welive in
slow lodge
but I shouldn't have doubted
devout path
Fdgods job is to play mercy
cursive glen
FDGod can not play anything other than lucio, he's a skill player but thats just...
then you didnt watch him last year legit
he had a very good brig and decent mercy
warm pelican
which was assigned to him when rein was banned im pretty sure @devout path
devout path
There are thousands of hours of mercy that he has played in scrims
tawdry hamlet
If you want to see the difference between owl and gm or even tier 2, just look at London, all gm players best in all of eu contenders
earnest leaf
Rando "PrincessSparklerxoxo" isn't gonna be better than fdgod
gilded carbon
I think justice could beat fuel if they got to play against them
verbal gorge
there's no point arguing about this people cant see past their bias
gilded carbon
probably the only team that can just roll dallas
devout path
If you want to see the difference between owl and gm or even tier 2, just look a...
Literally
London was the best Eu contenders team
forest token
if fuel can get pine and get him up to speed in time fuel are gonna be scary
remote siren
Last year he was good
devout path
That’s just contenders to owl
forest token
idk if pine's gonna be good in time tho
devout path
Let alone ladder to owl
tribal canopy
Fdgod obviously deserves to be in the owl and is good but you cant argue that he had a bad game
remote siren
he is not playing better this year then his level of play from last year
devout path
Fdgod obviously deserves to be in the owl and is good but you cant argue that he...
He did but he doesn’t deserve this much hate
warm pelican
Fdgod obviously deserves to be in the owl and is good but you cant argue that he...
yeah i agree with this
forest token
I can't see what happened cuz he was on mercy
cursive glen
Fdgod obviously deserves to be in the owl and is good but you cant argue that he...
noone is saying otherwise lmao
tawdry hamlet
I don't think anyone is, just arguing he's not like the worst mercy lucio otp ever
forest token
not on screen most of the game
tropic herald
warm pelican
its not hate its jsut saying that he didnt have a good game
verbal gorge
he did have a bad game, but its not all on him
warm pelican
true
verbal gorge
and he definitely does not deserve to be fired or be sent to t2
tawdry hamlet
https://twitter.com/excitingcontent/status/1401699756070559746?s=20
Bonked by pelican
devout path
https://twitter.com/excitingcontent/status/1401699756070559746?s=20
Where is Nero?
tribal canopy
noone is saying otherwise lmao
Yes sad excuses of shock fans are
devout path
Nero is supposed to be checking pelican
warm pelican
i mean hes still a great lucio so he shouldnt be fired
tribal canopy
Im not a shock fan
I am not talking about you
verbal gorge
i think shock has bigger issues
barren quest
Pelican is wearing camo
verbal gorge
like fucking picking mei in this meta
next mesa
Lol at this point
devout path
i mean hes still a great lucio so he shouldnt be fired
Fdgod main tank is 10x better than any gm main tank
remote siren
it should be very clear I fucking hate the shock
next mesa
Korean ladder >> Eu contendies
verbal gorge
its obviously clear that there's something wrong with their comms
warm pelican
@devout path ok i dont know much about him
cursive glen
Fdgod main tank is 10x better than any gm main tank
i mean we dont know that tho
devout path
Korean ladder >> Eu contendies
Half of Korean ladder is owl players lol
cursive glen
so iwouldtn really agree on that
tribal canopy
Anyways i am gonna go cry myself to sleep
cursive glen
Only cause someone is very good on one role doesnt mean he is good on all 3 roles
remote siren
Id rather have a rank 1 korean main support rookie
forest token
oh yeah like right there, glister groups up with super and choi to fight cat, fd/nero fly up to help but pelican picks fd off
earnest leaf
remote siren
Look at jjonk he was rank one flex support on ladder
warm pelican
im glad atlanta won i dont really like violet as a person but thats just my opinion
forest token
whether glister should've offangled to keep pelican from freefiring on fdgod or whether nero/fd should've pathed differently, idk
forest token
but it's very possible that glister's position led pelican to find that angle on fdgod
remote siren
Not the players
sullen berry
Bonked by pelican
silence, wench 
cursive glen
I dont like shock as an org
for that u seem pretty mad that they lost
verbal gorge
well I hate their fan base
from ur comments it looks like u hate everyone so
tawdry hamlet
Fdgod main tank is 10x better than any gm main tank
I can see it with someone like violet or danteh since they've been 4700 on all three roles but idk with fdgod
remote siren
I do hate everyone
earnest leaf
but it's very possible that glister's position led pelican to find that angle on...
they just need to look at pelican
devout path
I can see it with someone like violet or danteh since they've been 4700 on all t...
Just the gamesense difference
remote siren
I hate the fuel for being goats abusers
verbal gorge
well then u have a problem
balmy wolf
shock and dallas fans are the most toxic
remote siren
I hate torb abusers
earnest leaf
At the end of p3 atl attack pelican sat in a corner 3 feet away from super and choi
forest token
kinda shit
earnest leaf
and free fired his whole copy
tawdry hamlet
The ashe copy hehe
sullen berry
I do hate everyone
I like you, your takes are as good as anyone
remote siren
I dont hate shanghai
remote siren
I love apac
forest token
like
remote siren
I hate the west
devout path
I really need to see how pelican is being so free
forest token
if no one puts pressure on pelican
tawdry hamlet
Shanghai roster is just too stacked I can't hate 
verbal gorge
I hate the west
who asked
forest token
and lets him take whatever angles he wants
devout path
if no one puts pressure on pelican
That’s why they lost
forest token
expecting fdgod to stay alive through that is fucking crazy
frank torrent
Glads played a meme game and didn't want to admit the dva diff and paid for it
mortal cipher
yeah
devout path
You can’t not check an echo in this meta
mortal cipher
double rejection tho
frank torrent
they had a good thing going but didn't adapt enough and Fuel tankline broke through
devout path
It’s like not checking a widow in a sniper meta
balmy wolf
yt chat is furious
tawdry hamlet
I wonder if valiant has fans in china or if it's all just leftover na fans
devout path
You will just lose
frank torrent
when is it not?
remote siren
The only West team I dont want to be relegated is Titans
cursive glen
some people here are just legit wrting such bullshit i cant even take them serious
mortal cipher
I wonder if valiant has fans in china or if it's all just leftover na fans
prob just sad
remote siren
Because theyre so dog shit I cant hate them
gilded carbon
yeah even though fdgod is sus he's still goated on goats
remote siren
I only feel bad
tepid ibex
yt chat is furious
Yt chat has a collection of 0.5 brain cells
forest token
like it's not like playing against some mid masters cree where you can give a little wiggle and his aim goes out the window
mortal cipher
Yt chat has a collection of 0.5 brain cells
honestly theyre the worst
remote siren
So fuck them too
devout path
Just a reminder pelican is really really good at echo
frank torrent
Resorting to calling something neo-goats when we're in the middle of hero bans is ridiculous
sullen berry
I wonder if valiant has fans in china or if it's all just leftover na fans
I'm told on weibo they're pretty meh about the whole thing - good for the chinese players, but they don't like how they don't have any NA players to support on this team, most still hate them for the decsion by Immortals
mortal cipher
i try to avoid yt chat
gilded carbon
hero bans is trash they are trash too
tawdry hamlet
I'm told on weibo they're pretty meh about the whole thing - good for the chines...
🎉🎉
forest token
it's to keep metas from becoming super cemented
tepid ibex
hero bans is trash they are trash too
No, they’re good ngl
forest token
like what happened with dive and goats
devout path
Hey
frank torrent
even more so when the team that is supposedly the worst offender literally had 3/4 of the bans take common picks from them
gilded carbon
No, they’re good ngl
but you did lie?
devout path
Can anyone check echo play rate in June joust
forest token
most of the reason those metas stuck around so long was because people were just too good at them
remote siren
Titans are an actual tier 2 team'
balmy wolf
lol how did boston even get into qualifiers
remote siren
Same with london
devout path
It’s like 80% right
balmy wolf
i forgot about them
tawdry hamlet
I'm gonna rewatch majestados in south American contenders because they had a bunch of silly people playing
frank torrent
Boston has something going tbh
remote siren
they need to go tier 2 like the dogs they are
forest token
orisa op
mortal cipher
i literally got the demon slayer movie spoiled for me from the yt chat
frank torrent
They're a lot more confident than they were last year
tepid ibex
lol how did boston even get into qualifiers
They went 2-2 thats why
balmy wolf
boston and atl didnt deserve this
devout path
Boston has something going tbh
Stand1 is the problem
forest token
lol
mortal cipher
wdym atl didnt
frank torrent
Also I think we can safely say that if Orisa isn't seeing play even in the midst of all of this she needs help
tepid ibex
boston and atl didnt deserve this
How don’t they? They played well
balmy wolf
wdym atl didnt
joke compared to the rest of the june joust teams + lost to glads
mortal cipher
they swept the bloody shock
cursive glen
they need to go tier 2 like the dogs they are
even if they were to do that, at least they arent some salty fan crying in discord
forest token
Also I think we can safely say that if Orisa isn't seeing play even in the midst...
they made pull a fucking 6s cd she already got the help she needed
mortal cipher
joke compared to the rest of the june joust teams + lost to glads
yet they beat the shock
by 3-0
tawdry hamlet
All the 4-0 teams were eliminated so win records don't really mean anything
mortal cipher
yeah
balmy wolf
glads > shock?
tawdry hamlet
Just the games that play 
gilded carbon
Also I think we can safely say that if Orisa isn't seeing play even in the midst...
I guess it's a good thing she is getting played
devout path
they need to go tier 2 like the dogs they are
...and completely dominate t2
remote siren
But stay in t2
quaint aurora
Wtf
frank torrent
and pull is insanely easy to play around now that it got its metric size cut in half
tepid ibex
Also I think we can safely say that if Orisa isn't seeing play even in the midst...
APAC
quaint aurora
Did shock just throw
mortal cipher
so far all teams undefeated have been beaten
quaint aurora
???
remote siren
Lik never come back up
quaint aurora
3-0???
balmy wolf
Did shock just throw
yes
quaint aurora
Hello?
balmy wolf
shock did throw
gilded carbon
Did shock just throw
they were bad at the game because they are bad at the game
devout path
Did shock just throw
Pelican diff
quaint aurora
Shock is underperforming
balmy wolf
if they had the monitors turned on they wouldve gapped atl
quaint aurora
What no rein does to a mf
tawdry hamlet
Anyway good games later dudes and peoples
gilded carbon
just good team diff
sullen berry
Shock is underperforming
can't call it a throw if the played their best - glister's streaks were short lived
gilded carbon
Anyway good games later dudes and peoples <:Salutations:520101260041519108>
bye bean sause man micheal
devout path
@sullen berry when are we doing the podcast
sullen berry
if anything, he could raze atlanta, but they didn't come out on top in most team fights
sullen berry
<@!200931208681619456> when are we doing the podcast
maybe after you finish the FDGod VOD review
devout path
Nero striker
tepid ibex
Wtf why did they put glister on
Because glister is good??
quaint aurora
Yeah Nero striker
devout path
maybe after you finish the FDGod VOD review
Lol
sullen berry
I'd like to know when you have the ciritcal information
raw ermine
Wtf why did they put glister on
glister is used for hitscan like ashe
striker is the reaper
sullen berry
also it's going to be recorded during the June Journament matches
sullen berry
I was gonna do an overall vod review
please do!
devout path
I wanna know how tf pelican was so free
cursive glen
Youd just be watch fd god die over and over
so nothing different to your diamond gameplay
earnest leaf
Pelican downloaded invis hacks
sullen berry
I'm more interested in simping for leejaegon after he diffed Anamo so hard on elims per 10 mins
remote siren
@cursive glen I don't think you're proving the point you think you're proving
devout path
so nothing different to your diamond gameplay
This is completely irrelevan
Why are you even talking about someone else’s rank when it’s completely irrelevant
balmy wolf
so nothing different to your diamond gameplay
are you trying to say fdgod did good
cursive glen
im not trying to prove any point
balmy wolf
because he didnt
sullen berry
because he didnt
whut
cursive glen
just having some free entertainment with you
devout path
Like I hard disagree with what they said
gilded carbon
reinforce wanted to say begone thot
but managed to hold it together and keep it to a "begone"
cursive glen
are you trying to say fdgod did good
no he did bad today but thsi guy legit saying he is diamond and could do better than fd and saying he should be fired
devout path
Youd just be watch fd god die over and over
That’s exactly what I want to see
balmy wolf
That’s exactly what I want to see
rewind the game
devout path
Why and how fdgod dies
remote siren
its called hyperbole
forest token
fdgod's first death is straight up off camera
devout path
Everyone looks at the killscreen
forest token
impossible to see what happened
devout path
And then
cursive glen
owl cams aren't good for reviews
you can watch them in game on the owl viewer
devout path
Everyone doesn’t realize 90% of main support isn’t on the killscreen
forest token
apparently not until thursday
remote siren
Anyways
devout path
I think they get released around Tuesday do they not
cursive glen
so common dark tell us your top 5 na teams then
tepid ibex
if you think shock are a top 4 or 5 team
I mean they still are
cursive glen
im listening
devout path
They are
forest token
we'll see what happens when hero pools go
frank torrent
if they do another Widow 1v1 pregame instead of Torb 1v1 we riot
cursive glen
he will probably say houston top 5 and mean it unironically
forest token
shock are always at their weakest right when metas shift
frank torrent
Hammer kills >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sniper duel
forest token
like
balmy wolf
ban winston
next mesa
dallas is gonna win
remote siren
justice
devout path
An actual top 5 list is incredibly hard to make
forest token
remember super genji
next mesa
shock are always at their weakest right when metas shift
they did just fine with hero pools last year though
remote siren
outlaws
next mesa
but no rascal
remote siren
then shock
next mesa
thats why
tepid ibex
Top 5 NA is probably shock, Dallas, Washington, Florida, glads
cursive glen
outlaws top4 kek
forest token
they also lost how many players
remote siren
Shock best team na
cursive glen
and from there on i know i cant take you serious
remote siren
what are you smoking?
frank torrent
Can Pine get over before Thursday? I'm worried that even if he can fly over in time that they won't have any practice with him
cursive glen
you unironically rank outlaws better than shock
devout path
Dallas shock glads Washington reign/Houston
hot onyx
So my nan, #1 Shock hater is now a Pelican simp
mortal cipher
they lost what, rascal architecht ans moth
yeah
tepid ibex
what are you smoking?
Never said it was in particular order but shock is top 5
dry mesa
titans playing for breadsticks because they can't get wins T^T
mortal cipher
ans retired
next mesa
pine isnt gonna play
frank torrent
Titans is pain
remote siren
Im saying overall
balmy wolf
no ans no win
mortal cipher
pine isnt playing until next tourney most likely
remote siren
theyre like soeul dynasty level in terms of skill
forest token
they're having to rebuild all that synergy with nero and fdgod
sullen berry
pine isnt gonna play
Pine time will probably be around Summer Showdown playoffs, at the earliest I'm sure
tepid ibex
theyre like soeul dynasty level in terms of skill
No??
forest token
which slows down how quickly they can adapt
balmy wolf
plz trade nero to philly and get rascal back
hot onyx
Shock also lost that random kid that won MVP that one time, can’t remember his name though
tawdry hamlet
Unironically good series
https://youtu.be/uCIdIYVfwio
mortal cipher
lol
tawdry hamlet
tepid ibex
Seoul are good but shock is just better
devout path
Pine time will probably be around Summer Showdown playoffs, at the earliest I'm ...
SparkR 18 tho
mortal cipher
ah
remote siren
The dynastry are the number 2 seeds
sullen berry
titans playing for breadsticks because they can't get wins T^T
nice cat pfp
remote siren
gets embarressed l
sullen berry
SparkR 18 tho
devout path
There is so much stuff to discuss in a podcast
remote siren
just like the shock
tepid ibex
The dynastry are the number 2 seeds
??
balmy wolf
Seoul are good but shock is just better
i would say that this was proven last year but
dry mesa
nice cat pfp
thx
sullen berry
he is next week
but SparkR will be just preparing to smash expectations
which are pretty low rn
hot onyx
forest token
ayy bren's on the reign train
balmy wolf
london will still be ass
tepid ibex
Shanghai was 2nd seed in apac if that’s what’s you’re referring to??
sullen berry
bren is a fish that will flip and flop predictions
devout path
I think sparkR over hybrid will carry London to at least a game win
hot onyx
I’m sorry
cursive glen
yes but the difference is that outlaws sneak into playoffs with the easiest schedule out of all teams
mortal cipher
lets hope london get one point thats asking for too mucj
cursive glen
while shock beat honorable teams
hot onyx
Justice lost 3-1 to Mayhem didn’t they?
remote siren
Then collasspe when it matters most
cursive glen
dallas, justice?
mortal cipher
lol
mortal cipher
houston look good then cant seem to adapt to dallas
tawdry hamlet
while shock beat honorable teams
Tbf they faced shock and dallas
remote siren
JUstice have one map my bad'
balmy wolf
probs some shit like vancouver titans and boston
tepid ibex
I’m thinking of the most recent justice mayhem game
tawdry hamlet
Outlaws I mean
frank torrent
Redpill me on NY, haven't caught many of their games
forest token
shock choke lmfao
remote siren
but most teams in na have either been giga rolled by mayhem, fuel or reign the play offs
devout path
Damn
hot onyx
Redpill me on NY, haven't caught many of their games
They absorbed the chaotic inconsistency that Seoul had last year
frank torrent
Shock is just shook up and can't sync
tawdry hamlet
Redpill me on NY, haven't caught many of their games
Stacked dps line and jjonak and mediocre everywhere else
umbral sapphire
seoul stan inconsisten
devout path
Now that I actually have a pc I’m excited to start doing owl vod reviews
frank torrent
You can clearly tell that Shock has trust issues
remote siren
24 of the 26 playoff maps so far in the west have been won my just 3 teams
tawdry hamlet
When you have dps supports trust issues surely arise hehe
frank torrent
they believe in each other
remote siren
Thats how massive the gap there is NA
mortal cipher
yeah for sure
forest token
shock vs. reign a few weeks ago I think would've ended differently
ivory stag
Nah reign may have won here but they gonna get bodied in hawaii
devout path
When you have dps supports trust issues surely arise hehe
Viol2t
remote siren
There is a tier between fuel and everyone else
forest token
but reign trying to go for the monkey rush definitely hurt them
I think
fuel gets rolled
tawdry hamlet
Yeah it's pretty wild the skill gap between top 3 in na and the rest
mortal cipher
they playing nyxl so who knows
upper niche
This is really going to hurt shock for final standings, missing out on bonus points twice.
forest token
once it hits playoffs and them not being able to run the orisa well really starts to matter
hot onyx
New York look good for the first match and whiff it all in the loser bracket
raw ermine
https://twitter.com/joakelly_kr/status/1401701401508601858
OWL IS A FUCKING ANIME CHANGE MY MIND
forest token
esp with pine still being stuck in KR
mortal cipher
threepeat becoming unlikely now
devout path
Viol2t got away with stupid stuff last season but this season the league has leveled up too much
mortal cipher
yeah
upper niche
Houston too
mortal cipher
wasnt he the dps zen
hot onyx
Fusion championship more likely than threepeat
tawdry hamlet
Playoffs against shanghai when violet was straight frog jump dpsing everyone on bap was so much fun on busan
devout path
Playoffs against shanghai when violet was straight frog jump dpsing everyone on ...
Literally imagine doing that in this season
mortal cipher
Fusion championship more likely than threepeat
true fusion need a win
devout path
Houston would kill Viol2t every time
raw ermine
my favourite pastime is looking at the sfs FS important match lost reactions on twitter
cursive glen
Fusion championship more likely than threepeat
cant know that yet cause it can be legit like last time where blizzard makes a massive balance change just befor playoffs
mortal cipher
yeah
remote siren
They will get destroyed easily in the playoffs by good teams
raw ermine
Twitter
devout path
Any of the top teams immediately kill Viol2t
tawdry hamlet
Literally imagine doing that in this season
Tbf that shanghai team was stacked it isn't like he abused it on a bad team
tribal canopy
Fusion championship more likely than threepeat
Wouldnt go that far
devout path
Tbf that shanghai team was stacked it isn't like he abused it on a bad team
Coaching
mortal cipher
Houston would kill Viol2t every time
did they
remote siren
@tribal canopy No he's right
next mesa
lowkey unbench twilight
hot onyx
😎
remote siren
I have more faith in nyxl then I have in the shock
mortal cipher
When they played against shock Viol2t did in fact get punished
thought so
hot onyx
lowkey unbench twilight
^
tribal canopy
<@!553159972259758091> No he's right
They lost a map to the valiant
mortal cipher
lol
remote siren
Oh right
mortal cipher
nyxl look good actually
remote siren
Still
tepid ibex
I have more faith in nyxl then I have in the shock
Big hot take
devout path
Twilight <:KillaHello:644380528228696064>
Twilight wouldn’t make those mistakes but twilight also wouldn’t make the hard carry plays
loud vessel
Shock lost to Atlanta ???
remote siren
Getting swept twice in the playoffs
hot onyx
They lost a map to the valiant
Shock lost 3-0 twice in knockouts, your point?
mortal cipher
shock getting double denied swept
hot onyx
Fusion still won the match
remote siren
Is old nyxl level of bad
willow tartan
at least they qualified for knockouts 
raw ermine
Twitter
tawdry hamlet
T
remote siren
@willow tartan whats the point of qualifying
devout path
at least they qualified for knockouts <:pepeLaugh:805592119573741628>
So did Boston
mortal cipher
true but lost the abiltiy to qualify
remote siren
if youre gonna prove to the entire world
tribal canopy
Shock lost 3-0 twice in knockouts, your point?
My point is that even though shock isnt good rn they atleast dont drop maps to the bottom of the bottom of the league
remote siren
you're not what what they used to be
devout path
if youre gonna prove to the entire world
Against the best teams in the meta
hot onyx
My point is that even though shock isnt good rn they atleast dont drop maps to t...
cough Defiant
remote siren
@devout path that you arent good enough
mortal cipher
*cough* Defiant
whod they do it to
loud vessel
Do you guys think Shock would be doing better if they still had Moth
hot onyx
whod they do it to
Shock 
mortal cipher
prob
remote siren
Totally
tribal canopy
*cough* Defiant
You wanna compare Defiant to Valiant? Alright bro
devout path
<@!405088084229619715> that you arent good enough
Tf do you even mean
I’m so confused
mortal cipher
Shock <:Morcy:587010031116091393>
but defiant are decent
mortal cipher
not bottom
devout path
It’s not an ego contest
hot onyx
Chengdu lost a map to the Valiant
mortal cipher
that be if shock lost a map to london
sullen berry
https://twitter.com/Viol2t_OW/status/1401706846839357445
T_T
hot onyx
Where’s their bullying?
mortal cipher
Chengdu lost a map to the Valiant
in week 1
devout path
Getting swept twice
Against the by far best team in the league and against a really really strong team in this meta
earnest leaf
No team is worse than valiant still
devout path
I don’t see your point
mortal cipher
No team is worse than valiant still
wot about london
cursive glen
his point is to hate no matter what
sullen berry
Where’s their bullying?
hey man, our server got a couple people joining just to watch Charge save them from elimination. Wrong move, arbitrary charge fans
cursive glen
ignoring that they are 7-1 i nregulars
earnest leaf
I'd take london over valiant still
cursive glen
beating dallas and justice and other good teams
mortal cipher
ight
remote siren
it's losers pick
devout path
No team is worse than valiant still
Valiant is pre whoever tf that hitscan player was 2020 titans
next mesa
i think shock will be better but
remote siren
you shouldtn be getting swept
next mesa
ok they might barely make it to hawaii
hot onyx
hey man, our server got a couple people joining just to watch Charge save them f...
Hey I supported the Mandu pickup
hot onyx
That’s enough to be a Charge fan
next mesa
is just 2 much
remote siren
2 playoff exits
willow tartan
of course theyre gonna lose
remote siren
not a single map won in either
remote siren
@willow tartan Apac best region lmao
willow tartan
nope, wont lose this time
devout path
2 playoff exits
Playoffs better than no playoffs
tepid ibex
shanghai is in
Shanghai Dallas finals and Shanghai get revenge baby
tight hill
<@!710655364239982633> Apac best region lmao
I’m going to respectfully disagree
willow tartan
Shanghai Dallas finals and Shanghai get revenge baby
hell yeah baby
hot onyx
Lot of confidence for somebody within Fielders coalescence range
tepid ibex
Shanghai look like monsters on double shield
devout path
Kenobi help these ppl
remote siren
@devout path Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt
sullen berry
Hey I supported the Mandu pickup
I had the hardest time supporting mandu, I'll still give the org the benefit of the doubt
as the head coach who signed them is no longer there
devout path
<@!405088084229619715> Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to sp...
????
sullen berry
timeline is sorta wacky to lose your head coach after may melee
tepid ibex
Do charge even have any coaches left
tepid ibex
how did nyxl beat spark
Spark just choked
upper niche
how did nyxl beat spark
They captured more points than Spark 😄
hot onyx
Do charge even have any coaches left
If the rumour about Neko leaving is true then no coaches left
balmy wolf
charge boomed
devout path
I feel bad for cr0ng
hot onyx
Free Cr0ng and ChoiSehWan
devout path
True
tepid ibex
And Eileen
tepid ibex
Can’t forget Eileen
devout path
Eileen doom
tepid ibex
Mykaylee god player 
remote siren
I want to go to sleep but making fun of shock is way better than sleeping
hot onyx
Better hs than MyKaylee
devout path
In contenders
willow tartan
which team do you think is gonna go 0-6 in the tournament
hot onyx
But that’s not hard
remote siren
@willow tartan Shock
willow tartan
theyre not in
hot onyx
Shock
remote siren
Exactly
tepid ibex
which team do you think is gonna go 0-6 in the tournament
Nyxl or reign
devout path
which team do you think is gonna go 0-6 in the tournament
Nyxl
willow tartan
tbh shame that shock didnt make it
remote siren
No
hot onyx
Not really
tepid ibex
I think Dallas and Shanghai are too much for them, nyxl vs reign tho idk
willow tartan
i wanted to see how nero matched up against east echo players
remote siren
They deserve to lose
devout path
If shock couldn’t mark pelican no way they would do shit against fleta
hot onyx
Shock fans have an ego bigger than the solar system, they needed taking down a peg or five
willow tartan
no one is saying they dont deserve to lose
tepid ibex
They deserve to lose
We know you hate the shock for no reason, shhh
willow tartan
they got rolled lol
cursive glen
They deserve to lose
willow tartan
but still, wanted to see nero vs fleta and glister vs lip
hot onyx
https://tenor.com/view/me-looking-for-who-tf-asked-looking-around-kid-kazoo-kid-...
Who asked if you asked?
devout path
but still, wanted to see nero vs fleta and glister vs lip
That would be too hard of a dps diff
cursive glen
Who asked if you asked?
Joe
willow tartan
im curious if pine will play since he can technically play from korea
devout path
No
tepid ibex
Lip would make glister his bitch
willow tartan
because the losing team can decide which map to pick, dallas could get fucked
like the shock dorado map
hot onyx
Fleta vs Pelican hype in the loser bracket
devout path
There is no world where shock does not lose to Shanghai
devout path
Fleta vs Pelican hype in the loser bracket
That will be rlly sick actually
Kai vs lip
Stacked dps game
hot onyx
HAWK VS VOID
devout path
No
tepid ibex
Atlanta tanks and support tho sadge
hot onyx
MATCHUP OF THE CENTURY
mighty pivot
WTF i learnt about Atlanta vs shock. Dude, I am legit excited.
devout path
void outclasses hawk
It was a joke
balmy wolf
shanghai wins at the hero select screen
willow tartan
shanghai will win because the only competition is dallas and dallas dont have a hitscan
ezpz
mighty pivot
shanghai wins at the hero select screen
So they wait until the other team forfeits?
raw ermine
Twitter
devout path
shanghai will win because the only competition is dallas and dallas dont have a ...
Hey remember last tourney
willow tartan
now is different though
devout path
Hey what happened last tourney
mighty pivot
Idk what did happen last tourney?
tepid ibex
If leejaegon carries on playing like he did against Seoul then big f for the other teams
devout path
Hey where was the no hitscan Dallas last tourney
Hey what happened to Shanghai last tourney
tawdry hamlet
https://twitter.com/SP9RK1E_OW/status/1401708038432727049
hot onyx
MFW the Dragons fan can’t tell I’m being ironic when I compare Void to Hawk https://tenor.com/view/troll-face-creepy-smile-gif-18297390
mighty pivot
Wait til pine gets his visa, Dallas now has a hitscan, now what?
devout path
Hawk obviously so much better than void
balmy wolf
dallas winning again 😴
devout path
Wait til pine gets his visa, Dallas now has a hitscan, now what?
Literally s3 shock
There is no weakness in that team
tepid ibex
MFW the Dragons fan can’t tell I’m being ironic when I compare Void to Hawk http...
Masaa vs LJG
hot onyx
dallas winning again 😴
2nd Dallas victory > 6th Shock Victory
tawdry hamlet
On paper best rosters in the league imo are Dallas (with Xzi) Shanghai Philly (at full roster) 
balmy wolf
2nd Dallas victory > 6th Shock Victory
💤
devout path
Philly full roster is really scary
willow tartan
philly with EU players
hot onyx
Imagine
willow tartan
is grand finals material
balmy wolf
shock didnt win may melee and june joust
hot onyx
Philly in a quintuple brig meta
tepid ibex
I just wanna see shockwave fuck in apac
tawdry hamlet
Shanghai with erster lip fleta diem on paper was scary af
hot onyx
Astro Tobi Alarm EQO and Rascal
hot onyx
All with the perfect rallys and shield bashes
tawdry hamlet
Another nutty 4 man is mmonk 1987 Yveltal Nisha
tawdry hamlet
Great supports
devout path
Another nutty 4 man is mmonk 1987 Yveltal Nisha
Leave leave leave leave leave leave
Who wins
willow tartan
Shanghai with erster lip fleta diem on paper was scary af
haha... erster
devout path
All leaves vs Dallas
devout path
Shocks best player is probs smurf
willow tartan
their best player is obviously ans
hot onyx
Best player is Rascal
balmy wolf
Best player is Rascal
if only
tepid ibex
best player is iqqdq
tawdry hamlet
Ans Xzi Diem all gone in one season 😠😠😠the three best snipers the games ever seen
Besides carpe
willow tartan
xzi will come back
devout path
I miss ans
hot onyx
Besides carpe <:monkaS:464860287409848360>
Don’t you dare
devout path
Ans revolutionized widow
tawdry hamlet
But no carpe good sniper too just feels he's never been able to achieve what ans and diem did but that's mostly because his team since as we saw against shanghai 3k jumpshots are no problem for him lol
hot onyx
Not what I meant
Thought the nervous Pepe meant you were indicating that Carpe would retire next
hot onyx
If he does I cry
hot onyx
Diem widow one trick but ok
worldly flax
what the actual fuck happened to sfshock 
hot onyx
Having Diem as the solo hitscan on a team is suicide
tawdry hamlet
Xzi mcree
worldly flax
I thought diem retired? 
hot onyx
what the actual fuck happened to sfshock <:NotLikeSoldier:301566099172884480>
They got owned by another team, not unusual for the Shock since they’re making a habit of it
tawdry hamlet
Ksp shockwave ans diem carpe last season there so many god widows
hot onyx
I thought diem retired? <:JunkratShock:585666073685393409>
He did but he was still a widow otp
tawdry hamlet
Decay
next mesa
Having Diem as the solo hitscan on a team is suicide
idk honestly not as much as having xzi
diem >= xzi on widow
diem > xzi on ashe
Xzi > diem on cree
hot onyx
Neither of them play ashe at a top level
sullen berry
SF Choke nah they played well, the scoreline really wouldn't show it because Kai delivered more times than Glister on Ashe picks
earnest leaf
pelican diff
tepid ibex
Diem widow one trick but ok
His Ashe and Cree is serviceable
tawdry hamlet
S3 the widow game just leveled up, we got Kai, Xzi, decay, diem, shockwave, carpe, Ans, like teams were loaded with hitscan 🥜 players
hot onyx
So I’d rather have an equal widow with a god tier mcree than a slightly better widow and mediocre ashe and cree (compared to other players ofc)
tawdry hamlet
I wish decay played widow like Rialto game all the time ðŸ˜
next mesa
how does diem has a mediocre ashe and cree
thats like saying ans had mediocre ashe and cree
tepid ibex
Definitely more than mediocre