game’s legit over
#esports-discussion
verbal gorge
astral mirage
Might aswell not even have them against anyone because we all know how it would turn out
balmy wolf
gator > super and mano
verbal gorge
would be too imbalanced for a showcase match
balmy wolf
ibm trust
verbal gorge
maybe if ow world cup ever becomes a thing again
ivory mason
2023
remote siren
The only mercy I think better than hin is like mikka
remote siren
And some na mercies
ivory mason
is so good
verbal gorge
the two mercys on hunters are better
ivory mason
yea
verbal gorge
nisha/yvetal
remote siren
Isnt mikka on hunters?
ivory mason
nisha
ivory mason
mika is spark
ivory mason
and mika isnt even getting game time
astral mirage
we can agree that no one is a good aggro mercy because its not how mercy should be played
remote siren
I mean the hunters merciea
ivory mason
because of idk
verbal gorge
ljg goes for some of the most bone headed reses ive seen and his ga control isnt as good as nisha
astral mirage
oooh, numbani, could be quite a tense match
ivory mason
skewed best brig is debatable because we havent seen him play against the best yet
verbal gorge
if u watch how hunters play
ivory mason
but yea top 2 for sure
verbal gorge
u’d understand how good their mercy is to be able to keep that team alive
supple prism
obviously Jake is best Brig
remote siren
Nisha plays like anamo
verbal gorge
they actually play in such an insane manner
remote siren
Season 2 anamo of course
remote siren
Season 2 anamo was infamous for playing like a bitch without valk
remote siren
Yeah
verbal gorge
nisha playing like a bitch? 
ivory mason
that face said it all
verbal gorge
not going for dumb reses isnt = playing like a bitch
besides he needs to be healing because half the time hunter’s flex support is dead cause nobody peels for him 
remote siren
Hey Im not saying he is bad player
balmy wolf
Sf shock stans after batting someone down for saying shock is overrated
remote siren
Best mercy in apac
balmy wolf
Shock stans when someone says super isn’t the best rank
verbal gorge
yeah but comparing him to anamo isnt accurate in the slightest.
balmy wolf
Shock stans when someone says Dallas is overrated
noble nexus
wtf do you have against shock fans bro
they might all share a hivemind but they aren't that bad
verbal gorge
could be worse
noble nexus
could be a fan of a bad team and think they're good
rapid locust
lol, people just like rooting for winners
mortal cipher
like???
noble nexus
atleast the shock are actually good
mortal cipher
ig
rapid locust
and underdogs
ivory stag
When your a shock fan just cause orange is your fav color.... lol
verbal gorge
good thing houston never make it to hawaii you dont wanna see their fans
rapid locust
LOL
little tusk
did pelican aimbot
balmy wolf
they might all share a hivemind but they aren't that bad
It was a joke
little tusk
tf was that instant flick
noble nexus
maybe they should check Pelican's pc
weak bolt
reverse sweep time, lets go
little tusk
he tp'd and legit instantly got onto target
noble nexus
reckon he's using an aimlock
dusty hound
When your a shock fan just cause orange is your fav color.... lol
unironically that's why i like the fusion
mortal cipher
good thing houston never make it to hawaii you dont wanna see their fans
how bad
ornate rose
atlanta repeating what houston did
mortal cipher
wdym
ivory stag
@dusty hound fr i had free points from watching along time ago decided i liked the away shock skin most for hanzo so got it then started rewatching this june lol
mortal cipher
for Sveden
little tusk
damn
frank torrent
Missed a game cuz vaccination appointment. Did my boys in burning blue stomp?
dusty hound
yep
mortal cipher
basically
frank torrent
frank torrent
Fuel has such amazing team trust it's always great to see them play
mortal cipher
yeah
houston just doesnt know how to counter their randomness
except that one time
frank torrent
You can really tell the teams that genuinely trust each other versus the ones that don;t
mortal cipher
yeah
frank torrent
It's wholesome in a way
ornate rose
bruh
frank torrent
Valentine running to Stand's bubble to safely ult 🧠
little tusk
echo broken
mortal cipher
yep
ornate rose
teams need to stop playing orisa
mortal cipher
brig didnt work
verbal gorge
You can really tell the teams that genuinely trust each other versus the ones th...
bring back runaway titans 
mortal cipher
titan and london
little tusk
he has ult again jfc
verbal gorge
hammer kill letsgooooo
mortal cipher
the double melee kill
frank torrent
he had to do it to em
tawdry hamlet
Torb on numbani is cursed
fast tusk
YEAS
tawdry hamlet
I hate it
mortal cipher
Torb on numbani is cursed
hoe
fast tusk
it did it
mortal cipher
how*
fast tusk
he got a hammer kill
little tusk
now ppl can stop saying im throwing when I go torb on attack
mortal cipher
lets go
mortal cipher
now ppl can stop saying im throwing when I go torb on attack
are you
mortal cipher
true
verbal gorge
Torb on numbani is cursed
torb on numbani is the og pick
frank torrent
...was the coa nerf on live patch actually justified?
dusty hound
agree
mortal cipher
i dont think so
frank torrent
Like it feels awful but this makes it seem nonexistent
tawdry hamlet
Yeah I just mean like torb in 2021 owl is cursed lmao I just find it amusing watching barely played heroes played
mortal cipher
ah i see wot you mean
balmy wolf
hawk so good
dusty hound
Like it feels awful but this makes it seem nonexistent
they play in the past version not in the current one
frank torrent
oh well then
mortal cipher
yeha
verbal gorge
Yeah I just mean like torb in 2021 owl is cursed lmao I just find it amusing wat...
there’s a ton of torb play in the apac region
just not NA
frank torrent
i didn't know if they put through the patch yet
mortal cipher
ah
frank torrent
they're inconsistent about it sometimes
fast tusk
wow hawk
mortal cipher
3-0 ez
balmy wolf
we play echo on attack and just roll
real gyro
faith unlucky
fast tusk
and kai still managed to get that hammer kill
mortal cipher
johnny happy
fast tusk
torb again 🙂
mortal cipher
hes just playing now
fast tusk
kai is having too much fun
mortal cipher
fr
glacial wadi
torb be popping off is all Im saying
verbal gorge
torb gap
fast tusk
torb diff
ivory stag
^^^^^^
mortal cipher
torb is
balmy wolf
ooof
glacial wadi
i swear reign are going to cap the entire map
balmy wolf
im impressed
mortal cipher
i think boston is just rekt now
fast tusk
OMMMMHHHHHHGGGGG
glacial wadi
actually just remove that change already
fast tusk
hawk]
weak bolt
Its funny to see, but probably does need changing lol
dusty hound
the coom™
mortal cipher
yeah but satisfying
verbal gorge
if they want to keep the damage
balmy wolf
broooo
mortal cipher
wow
balmy wolf
holy shit
ivory stag
id say lower mech dmg to like 100 or 150
fast tusk
wow that fucking overtime
mortal cipher
its a beeg hitbox
verbal gorge
winston jumping through and randomly gets clipped by it
mortal cipher
wots the radias
glacial wadi
I also think it should be 200 and not 250
noble nexus
it shouldn't even be 200 damage
mortal cipher
not sure if that is the skill expression we want in the game
wot expression
remote siren
What a fiesta
verbal gorge
we live in a world where attack torb is better than defense torb
mortal cipher
i thought uit was 50 damage
mortal cipher
lol attack torb
remote siren
That remech kill gave me depression
noble nexus
it should be 100-150 maybe
remote siren
Hiw can a owl team let htat happen
glacial wadi
50 -250
mortal cipher
oh
glacial wadi
Hiw can a owl team let htat happen
honestly watch replay and see how far they stood from mech call and still they die
verbal gorge
solo coal 
weak bolt
Does the dva mech damage scale on distance, or is it 250 no matter where?
glacial wadi
250 flat regardless
verbal gorge
pre sure its 250 no matter
dusty hound
250 no matter where
weak bolt
Scaling on distance would be a nice fix then imo.
balmy wolf
ggs
frank torrent
masaa has balls of steel holy hell
balmy wolf
reign vs shock will be good
mortal cipher
ha det boston
noble nexus
doubt it
weak bolt
Do it right on someones head, 250 damage. Do it 2m away, 100 dmg etc.
glacial wadi
gege
fast tusk
gg
dusty hound
ggs
raw ermine
gg
verbal gorge
Do it right on someones head, 250 damage. Do it 2m away, 100 dmg etc.
let mech call headshot
barren quest
Lily malding rn
noble nexus
boston are cheeks at this game holy shit
remote siren
Bostion hasnt been good since stage 3 tbh
weak bolt
To be fair to Boston, they made big improvements this stage
verbal gorge
that solo coal was something
mortal cipher
2018
remote siren
Sgtae 3 season 1 of coursw
verbal gorge
with 50s for a recontest
weak bolt
Qualifying for top 6 is good for that roster.
glacial wadi
To be fair to Boston, they made big improvements this stage
true, the torb draft was impeccable
devout path
GG @balmy wolf
verbal gorge
certainly something
mortal cipher
boston got lucky and thats about it in week 1 of june joust
verbal gorge
well
balmy wolf
GG <@456226577798135808>
ggs boston still good
noble nexus
wrong
verbal gorge
blame the format, not the team
glacial wadi
It would be cool if you could get a discord tag for the team you support
weak bolt
Boston out qualified Paris, Justice, Mayhem and Defiant. Can't criticise them this stage imo
supple prism
yes we can
balmy wolf
At least we qualified
yeah im sorry i didnt expect a 3-0 tbh
devout path
yeah im sorry i didnt expect a 3-0 tbh
True
mortal cipher
i did
verbal gorge
if only mayhem knocked dallas out so i wouldnt have to watch neo goats
devout path
Boston choked map 1 and map 3
verbal gorge
balmy wolf
paris OMEGALUL
glacial wadi
Boston out qualified Paris, Justice, Mayhem and Defiant. Can't criticise them th...
paris and justice look terrible
balmy wolf
Boston choked map 1 and map 3
esp map 3
weak bolt
Boston's roster is nowhere near the same quality of Justice/Mayhem, and they did better this stage
devout path
Get a replacement for stand1 plz
balmy wolf
the defense choke
devout path
Im37 too
verbal gorge
no decay no win
mortal cipher
basically
dreamy jasper
paris and justice look terrible
Last two matches Justice played Amazing?
barren quest
Sub in Fusions and Chex
supple prism
Boston got lucky at the start with the hero bans and then couldnt keep up
mortal cipher
assassin is good but without decay the whole team falls apart
verbal gorge
decay needs to be permanently in, like leave/shy
devout path
Shy roty
mortal cipher
boston got lucky in week 1 and after that it went back to normal
weak bolt
Not sure it counts as lucky? They had exactly same resources as every other team
mortal cipher
ig
verbal gorge
well 4 games is a really small sample size to qualify for knockout stage
the real results will be season playoffs
barren quest
Can't to see how NYXL will do in the tournament
devout path
I’d prefer 6 game qualifiers
earnest leaf
I do wish there were 6 games
mortal cipher
nyxl was a treat
earnest leaf
4 games gives room for things like washington not getting in, but houston does
verbal gorge
not to mention the difference in strength of schedule
earnest leaf
houston had an easy path in, justice messed up for one week
devout path
Valiant let nyxl get into top 4
mortal cipher
yeah justice couldve gotten in
frank torrent
I'm not sure Glads have this tbh
Kev's a weak link against Fearless
verbal gorge
god bless valiant finally did something useful
devout path
Valiant why couldn’t you have been bad for 1 more map
weak bolt
I like the 4 games, it means every match matters a lot more. Got to be on top of your game every week
mortal cipher
valient took philly down with them
barren quest
And then NYXL went against the Spark and got an upset win
devout path
I'm not sure Glads have this tbh
Kev's a weak link against Fearless
Dallas 3-1
mortal cipher
yep 3-1
noble nexus
can't wait for glads to dominate
verbal gorge
Valiant why couldn’t you have been bad for 1 more map
same as to why the teams against fuel last tourny couldnt have won one more map against them 🙂
noble nexus
y'all hating
mortal cipher
and not suprising shanghai 3-0ed seoul
barren quest
Seoul weren't even trying
frank torrent
It's definitely not gonna be a stomp but Fuel literally has the power of friendship 
devout path
Shanghai so stacked
weak bolt
Wonder if Glads will be smart and try pick maps they can run long range hitscan, or just try force mirror
mortal cipher
Seoul weren't even trying
honestly they didnt even try
verbal gorge
seoul kinda sat there and let themselves get pounded
maybe the map 1 tilt was too strong
frank torrent
If Havana is available it's def a pick for them
mortal cipher
what map was leijong tower
barren quest
First map
verbal gorge
probs junkertown 
mortal cipher
ah so they broke after map 1
barren quest
LJG just fucked them
remote siren
So
verbal gorge
i dont think havana is in, its dorado/rialto/junkertown i think?
remote siren
Super
mortal cipher
LJG just fucked them
basicaLLY
fallen turret
why do the outlaws have hydration when they never play him?
remote siren
He has gotten worse
verbal gorge
LJG just fucked them
also helps that fate hit some massive halts
remote siren
He used to be the best rein and mt in the keague
barren quest
why do the outlaws have hydration when they never play him?
Hydration was played in one map against the Shock iirc
remote siren
But now he is like 6th best rein
dreamy jasper
Well he cant really play when Rein is banned
verbal gorge
why do the outlaws have hydration when they never play him?
cause they have danteh and there’s little chance that you ever need double projectile
the only reason to ever play hydration is if doomfist/pharah ever becomes meta
weak bolt
Hydration has some heroes that he's specialised on, and maybe he adds something to the team in the background they like. Just flex supports get kind of dicked on
verbal gorge
nah hell no
next mesa
Unrelated but I just got vaccinated wooo
barren quest
Super has consistently been very good on Rein for a long time
verbal gorge
hydration and agilities is literally the same player lmao
remote siren
Is liberio still in the league?
next mesa
No
barren quest
Not in a team still
verbal gorge
no, he’s doing crypto trading iirc
next mesa
He's rich now
remote siren
I knew my boy would make it
dreamy jasper
Super has consistently been very good on Rein for a long time
I agree. It just looks like he has gotten worse cause competition is so so high now
ivory stag
i feel fuel gonna win coming up
remote siren
Are your pro nouns actually vey vem?
devout path
Your*
barren quest
People keep believing in recency bias
frank torrent
Unrelated but I just got vaccinated wooo
devout path
Dallas wins 3-1
verbal gorge
super is still good, but at what point do u just go full korean and have better comms
remote siren
Bro he got def worse
devout path
super is still good, but at what point do u just go full korean and have better ...
Fdgod
remote siren
How is gator seen as comparabke to you
wintry kraken
"Hammer kills" 😄
mortal abyss
super is still good, but at what point do u just go full korean and have better ...
Shock can only really go full Korean in like a bap zen double sniper meta
dreamy jasper
they all speak very good english so it doesnt really matter
verbal gorge
yeah, and fdgod looks pretty lost at times
mortal abyss
Shock can only really go full Korean in like a bap zen double sniper meta
Or I guess ana brig
devout path
Fdgod style doesn’t work with rest of shock
remote siren
Gator is like an average mt at best
weak bolt
Why would you replace Super lol? He's still arguably best rein in league, great for team publicity and a good leader in the team
next mesa
Fdgod style doesn’t work with rest of shock
It's working lately
devout path
Rush meta
frank torrent
I kinda don't want Fuel to outright stomp Glads
Glads are consistently less than the sum of their parts but I like them as a team
rapid locust
who is gonna win?
remote siren
Jiangu
verbal gorge
lol like hell shock is getting fearless
remote siren
Mano
barren quest
Who would you consider the most iconic OWL player
frank torrent
JJangu might be the best Rein in the world right now but that doesn't mean Super can't still bring a barnburner of a fight
devout path
Jjonak
mortal abyss
Who would you consider the most iconic OWL player
Jjonak
dreamy jasper
Super jjonakk or Fleta
devout path
Jjonak is the only real answer
verbal gorge
Who would you consider the most iconic OWL player
jakerat
glacial wadi
Alright so about the call mech discussion, I think that what's obviously an issue is how hard dva gets staggered after losing mech.
I'd argue that instead of call mech damage you instead give dva invulnerability the moment she calls it, and also give mech invulnerability until dva can move. This allows dva to remech and has a lot more ability to run and not be staggered forcing teams to kill baby dva
verbal gorge
say what u want but nobody else has been a player caster coach
mortal abyss
Jjonak is probably the most well known owl player, if you watched owl in season 1 (the most popular season) you knew jjonak
weak bolt
SBB/Jjonak/Profit for the Iconic Korean players
devout path
Jjonak is probably the most well known owl player, if you watched owl in season ...
I knew jjonak before I even watched owl
weak bolt
Super/Danteh probably on the US side
mortal abyss
Rjh is also very iconic but not really in terms of owl
dreamy jasper
SBB/Jjonak/Profit for the Iconic Korean players
Pine?
weak bolt
Pine could be up there if his return is good
remote siren
I think its miro
rapid locust
but he did leave an impression
mortal abyss
pine didnt play all the time
Yeah but he was really well known
verbal gorge
rip miro
astral juniper
Rjh is also very iconic but not really in terms of owl
Miro also, if we are talking outside of OWL
remote siren
Miro changed the way people play winston
weak bolt
If he comes back and is crap, then I think Pine will fall down a lot
dreamy jasper
I would say he is more iconic than profit tho
mortal abyss
Miro also, if we are talking outside of OWL
Yeah 4sure
glacial wadi
I want to see more of decay so badly
remote siren
The most iconic player tho
weak bolt
Profit is iconic for like all of OW, from Pre-OWL too
mortal abyss
Boink is the most iconic player though
remote siren
Has to be ryu
glacial wadi
Sinatra, amirite
dreamy jasper
muma
dreamy jasper
Sinatra, amirite
lol........
devout path
Sinatraa
remote siren
This guy changed the way every support played the game
astral juniper
im so sad that seoul coaching gave up on miro
Seoul should have been a carbon copy of Lunati Hai
earnest leaf
Regardless of sinatraa's controversies, he is no doubt an iconic OW player
remote siren
Sinatraa was good for like one season then retired
verbal gorge
This guy changed the way every support played the game
clockwork changed the way tracers demeched dvas
dreamy jasper
Regardless of sinatraa's controversies, he is no doubt an iconic OW player
He was easily the best player for his time
remote siren
Sinatraa over moth?
dreamy jasper
easily
remote siren
Bro moth is the reason they went back to bacj
mortal abyss
Sinatraa
Not really? If you want to talk about being (in)famous outside of overwatch then yes but sinatraa isn’t as well known as other players like jjonak or pine etc
remote siren
Not sinatraa
rapid locust
iconic or infamous?
weak bolt
Bunch of people have reasons to be iconic imo. Viol2t could be considered iconic for his outrageously aggressive support. Rascal for his ability to pick up new heroes and dominate (Baptiste/Echo).
earnest leaf
It wasn't sinatraa's individual heroes that made him stand out, outside of zarya/doom, was his leadership
verbal gorge
sinatraa? i just remember him crying over harmony orb after getting dicked by sbb in the world cup
devout path
Sinatraa and jjonak are by far the 2 most iconic owl players for overwatch
barren quest
Ameng and Guxue for most iconic Chinese players?
dreamy jasper
Bro moth is the reason they went back to bacj
I would say Ans and Viol2t they won again
devout path
I would say Ans and Viol2t they won again
Ans was 2020
verbal gorge
ameng is an absolute chad, he plays ball into mei/sombra and doesnt give a fuck
fallen turret
why do the outlaws have hydration when they never play him?
Also why don't they play KSF ever?
earnest leaf
I'm gonna be 100% honest, ans made shock winning it all much easier
weak bolt
Most iconic figure in OWL is clearly Crusty. Name a more influential person 😄
dreamy jasper
Ans was 2020
Yeah i know, but that is the reason why they won last year
remote siren
Moth is the reason shock were a god like team
verbal gorge
Most iconic figure in OWL is clearly Crusty. Name a more influential person 😄
you mean aero
earnest leaf
When you have a widow who is straight up better than any widow you face, the game gets much easier
glacial wadi
I take it pine isn't playing with fuel for June joust
devout path
When you have a widow who is straight up better than any widow you face, the gam...
Exactly
weak bolt
Pine can't play till he's in US with Visa
devout path
Ans was just better than literally everyone
dreamy jasper
I miss him alot as a Shock fan
verbal gorge
Pine can't play till he's in US with Visa
he can. from korea if they make it to hawaii
earnest leaf
It's hard to pick a single shock player on who is the most important
dreamy jasper
Ta1yo amirite guys.......guys.....?
weak bolt
Pretty sure he can't, I think he needs a visa to be technically employed by Fuel to play
devout path
Viol2t's zen as well
Viol2t being the best fs in the world also helped
plush grail
@devout pathu lost to paris and atlanta 
verbal gorge
Viol2t being the best fs in the world also helped
dont think thats how it works.
glacial wadi
Are shanghai dragons still in June joust?
barren quest
Yes
devout path
<@!405088084229619715>u lost to paris and atlanta <:OMEGALUL:776276529779834881>
Look who didn’t make it to qualifiers 
verbal gorge
fielder was playing for paris last season from korea on ping
remote siren
Carpe waa the best widow ib the world in seaspn 1
plush grail
Look who didn’t make it to qualifiers <:slpySip:433112686944059393>
buy the paris skin
devout path
buy the paris skin
I did idito
barren quest
They destroyed Seoul so they are in
remote siren
Still got clapped in the finals
plush grail
I did idito
which one
remote siren
Moth is the most important play on their championship rosters
dreamy jasper
Space pog
remote siren
Not these big flashy dps playera
verbal gorge
glads PLEASE i beg you please beat this neo goats cancer
remote siren
He soft carried them super hard
plush grail
Paris cree I literally pinged you
OOPS sorry i was at the zoo and im pretty sure i pressed the mark all as read button
also GOOD
remote siren
This is 10x worse than goats
plush grail
onigod cree is cracked
glacial wadi
Fuel gon 3 0
remote siren
Atleast goats had cool dva eats
devout path
@plush grail
remote siren
4 bombs per fight
remote siren
Wtf is this cancer bull shit
devout path
Idiot
plush grail
i couldnt check messages properly okay
devout path
Yes and that makes you an idiot
glacial wadi
Who cares about dva bomb when remech is the real ult
plush grail
Yes and that makes you an idiot
exact opposite because i have my priorities in the right place
devout path
exact opposite because i have my priorities in the right place
No you don’t
dusty hound
muze really love give ult charge to the enemy team uh?
glacial wadi
Remove call mech damage ahhh
verbal gorge
lost to remech kill again kekw
glacial wadi
I swear there's as many kills with call mech as there are with bomb in owl
cursive glen
yes cause bomb is legit just a zoner and ability forcer
weak bolt
players have also had years to get used to dodging bombs, and like 3 weeks for remech :p
glacial wadi
Getting dicey for glads already
frank torrent
Glads are putting up a good fight
This is a slobberknocker so far
Good
The Fuel won't get stronger from pushovers
glacial wadi
I feel like this is a hard map for winston but maybe I'm wrong
frank torrent
It can be with the moira around, he doesn't have a lot of spots to leverage his lightning gun safely
Doha is out for blood today
glacial wadi
Doha out for blood every day I swear
weak bolt
I just want to see these good neo-goats teams vs SHD double shield
frank torrent
"neo-goats" just sounds like another word for sniper copium
tepid ibex
glacial wadi
I mean fuel went v shd plenty in may melee, but they ran dive like every game
frank torrent
fearless fucked that jump up ngl
ivory stag
i feel this is a reaper diff lol
verbal gorge
how did birdring die first so many times lol
glacial wadi
This is definitely over lol
noble nexus
birdring just hasn't turned his brain on yet
weak bolt
Birdrings reaper has been super readable past few games, if Dallas have done any studying they'll punish him hard
frank torrent
Yeah tbh Fielder might be doing better on Ana rn due to the abundance of aoe heals shutting off his monkey
He's probably the best Ana in the world
frosty shell
tbh he had to ult there
glacial wadi
I mean dying as reaper to dva bomb is a bit mental when both your abilities grant invuln to it lol
frosty shell
but could have waited a bit longer
polar dirge
amogus?
wintry kraken
Bren says it won't be 3-0... so it will be a 3-0. Sure, it will be a close 3-0, but still a 3-0 😄
frank torrent
yeah but there were like twelve bombs that round
13% of the time it works every time
noble nexus
cold take: they won't
I respect your ambitions but the shock are great with this meta
remote siren
Idc who does it as long as shock fans cry
Its not likely
But people said shock would 30 fuel in may melee
cursive glen
kevster with high ping is their best player
frank torrent
WHEN THE FUCK DID SPARKLE BECOME A PRO GENGU
cursive glen
dont know how but birdring isnt playing good recently
noble nexus
WHEN THE FUCK DID SPARKLE BECOME A PRO GENGU
hope this is a joke
true hound
man
glacial wadi
Kevsters ult charge lol
ornate rose
wow
noble nexus
genji is his best hero
ornate rose
what a time
noble nexus
lmao
glacial wadi
Holy moly this was tragic
noble nexus
genji is just dogshit
remote siren
The eecord is like 5 something
Close to record setting
Glads stay trash even when they arent
glacial wadi
This is such a hard 3 0
balmy wolf
bro wtf why are they on orisa now
frank torrent
Man if this doesn't prove Orisa needs help I don't know what does
remote siren
Nice comp xd
wintry kraken
torb in the server
remote siren
Tyhe need to fix their champs or lese this is ez 3-0
glacial wadi
I mean orisa wasn't the issue, orisa can't solo prevent them from going through choke, that was kevsters inability
noble nexus
kevster torb lets fucking goooooooo
noble nexus
small man diff
glacial wadi
Torb is pretty strong smh
noble nexus
constant damage is pretty useful for engages
balmy wolf
Wtf is this game
the outluls virus
everybody is gonna choose dallas best 2cp map + orisa dva
frank torrent
Torb just has insane uptime with a good turret spot
remote siren
Dallas is like arguable best team in thenmeta
glacial wadi
Torb just has an extremely high damage output, you can also very easily protect your back line or punish a push through a choke with crossfire
remote siren
Adn you. Play the most meta map
frank torrent
He can build ult very consistently and is surprisingly good at peel
glacial wadi
Especially in low elo, 2 teams just brawl at the same spot and torb can shred shields and murder anyone caught by his attacks
Bastion lmaoo
remote siren
Torb won
noble nexus
NA is goated
glacial wadi
Coal needed the nerf for sure
frank torrent
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/708497847489658931/851225669526224906/unknown.png
tensions are high
frank torrent
Disney moment
ivory stag
the amount of ppl that misuse c9 lol
tribal flint
Fuel is picking genji but idk if that's just because they expect anything but moira? Idk
Nvm that was a spawn pick troll
frank torrent
why did Shu just stay there after Fade? A juke?
ornate rose
coal diff
glacial wadi
why did Shu just stay there after Fade? A juke?
Yes, fearless even turned around. It was kinda the only play, only way he survives is banking fearless didn't know where he went
frank torrent
I thought he would have heard her come out and just slapped her immediately, I guess Primal noises masked it
balmy wolf
if dallas wins june joust i will literally fall asleep
dusty hound
i believe in the shock to beat them again
frank torrent
cry about it
ornate rose
frank torrent
Fuel finally clicks together and becomes the sum of their parts for the first time ever and people are malding like mad
Everyone loves the underdog until they become a threat
glacial wadi
No more kevster
frank torrent
To be fair, I do want the Glads to give them a good fight
dusty hound
they haven't, they literally depend on fearless to carry the entire team
frank torrent
They won't get any stronger chewing up and spitting out pushovers
ah yes because having the arguable best Ana in the world and Sparkle means nothing
cope
glacial wadi
Lowkey I'm scared pine, as good as he is, won't benefit fuel being on the team
Doha and sparkle have been very consistent imo
frank torrent
always have been
devout path
ah yes because having the arguable best Ana in the world and Sparkle means nothi...
They don’t have twilight
tribal flint
Thoughts on why the gladiators are trying to force torb in this meta?
dusty hound
ah yes because having the arguable best Ana in the world and Sparkle means nothi...
not really, again fearless is doing all the heavy lifting
frank torrent
Torb's got a ton of uptime and a really tricky ult that punishes meta picks
Saying Fearless is the only power player is like saying Super is Shock's carry
verbal gorge
torb is the counter to goats 
ivory stag
idk why they trying to force orisa hasnt worked for them on last two maps
dark hedge
lmfao
glacial wadi
That was sad that nothing came from that
frank torrent
yeah they needed better focus, they chased two rabbits and caught neither
glacial wadi
That bongo lmao
dusty hound
Saying Fearless is the only power player is like saying Super is Shock's carry
the thing is fearless dies and everyone fall down to pieces any other team try to turn the situation to win without their main tank but Dallas doesn't
dark hedge
shu is legit cracked
frank torrent
the main tank dying in a dive comp means the push falls apart
Yes, and?
next mesa
muze got another supercharger
glacial wadi
Sparkle doom.
next mesa
thats pretty huge
glacial wadi
Surely they cap with this with ult economy
frank torrent
yeah orisa is a sleeper on this map
verbal gorge
torb op
barren quest
Mirror carry
next mesa
sadge
verbal gorge
torb is the counter to goats <:Copium:832974030943813672>
the copium worked guys
barren quest
Did he play earlier this season?
remote siren
Hahahahaha
frank torrent
Torb does not care for your puny meta 🗿
remote siren
Got full held ny torb
west lotus
wait why does la have 2 teams
tropic herald
Thank fuck Dallas comp looks bad now, the comp is so sleeper
remote siren
Apac is gotta destory west
west lotus
valiant and gladiators
ivory stag
torb could marry my mom anytime
remote siren
Losing to torb
tropic herald
Because they chose to be LA based
remote siren
Tihs is so funny
glacial wadi
wait why does la have 2 teams
Valiant dropped entire staff and players and moved to china
west lotus
ah
glacial wadi
Valiant is an LA team in name only
weak bolt
LA was also where the Blizzard Arena was, so having 2 teams gave great local engagement & competition
west lotus
i see
verbal gorge
TORB SAVED COMPETITIVE OVERWATCH
tropic herald
Reverse sweep so I don’t have to watch Dallas play this comp anymore 
verbal gorge
🦀 GOATS IS DEAD 🦀
glacial wadi
Uhhh
earnest leaf
Glads win if they can force these types of comps
next mesa
dallas looks good mood
earnest leaf
But just lose the mirror
dusty hound
Reverse sweep so I don’t have to watch Dallas play this comp anymore <:praydge:7...
may god hear you amen
glacial wadi
The mirror torb comeback
verbal gorge
where were you when torb killed goats
tropic herald
This is so much worse than gots
Goats had nuance
This you just shove a square peg into a round hole and win
It’s so stupid
glacial wadi
This isn't goats though, I'm so tired hearing it compared to goats when it's missing rein zarya completely lol
verbal gorge
m1+w
remote siren
Wow
earnest leaf
silly plat owl staff thinks brawl = goats
verbal gorge
fam the original goats comp had variations as well
remote siren
Two brain dead compositions fighting it out
earnest leaf
This is just another flowchart brawl meta
verbal gorge
monkey goats sombra goats doom goats etc etc
astral juniper
Dive was 10x worse then goats ever was
No cap
dusty hound
mei goats
remote siren
First 3 stages dive
verbal gorge
worst meta to watch is widow mercy meta imo
remote siren
No widow takes skill
verbal gorge
yeah watching people click a head and wait to get ressed is fun
not really imo
and the game slowed down so much because of widow
astral juniper
Widow is so boring to look at
remote siren
The sightlinea
verbal gorge
if i wanted that id watch cod or something
dusty hound
double sniper is boring in general
frank torrent
imagine thinking this is worse than S6 Dive
remote siren
This isnt lol
astral juniper
A hero based shooter =|= standard fps
verbal gorge
watching widow click heads from a spot that cant be contested except for an opposing widow is residentsleeper
weak bolt
Imagine people having differing opinions on what is fun/not fun to watch in OW
verbal gorge
hell if the widow is flanking like prime pine give me that shit
frank torrent
God fucking forbid a healer with no hitscan abilities see play other than ramming a rein into someone
verbal gorge
Just dive the widow
u really think this is a thing back in that meta? there’s a reason why the game devolved into double sniper cause the counter to widow is a better widow
remote siren
Eventually good teams figuted out double sniper was dog against rush nad dive
Adn everyone played that and auto won
verbal gorge
thats because they released brig
remote siren
Yeah and?
frank torrent
Of course the moment Orisa, Sig or Hog get any buffs this will immediately switch to bunker being the worst thing ever
They could give Sig 10 more barrier HP and there'd be screaming
remote siren
Bunker is cancer
verbal gorge
of course widow’s useless against old brig with armour packs everywhere and tanks running around
astral juniper
Rarely the meta shift changes bc teams "figure stuff out"
verbal gorge
doesnt change the fact that double sniper was crap to watch
remote siren
But conflating a ds with bunker is bad
weak bolt
Metas change because the devs change balance. They dont change much because teams try different stuff
next mesa
remote siren
And it was started by gator
frank torrent
verbal gorge
Is tte most influebtial meta in ow history
yeah it made everyone realise how bad blizzard is at balancing
and how slow they roll out their fucking patches
remote siren
Why play them?
dusty hound
you know your team is boring when even the casters call it predictable
next mesa
sheeeeeeeesh
verbal gorge
thank you glads for this performance
verbal gorge
thank you for not pulling a mayhem and mirroring this garbage on junkertown
tawdry hamlet
Dallas babyy
dusty hound
you love to see it
next mesa
if only pine was here
glacial wadi
Gladiators look so transformed with mirror torb
frank torrent
remind me why junkertown is apparently a better map than rialto
glacial wadi
Fearless lmao
remote siren
Wtai this comp is bunker
tawdry hamlet
Mirror on torb hehe
verbal gorge
why click head when turret do job
remote siren
Bunker is worse than goata
frank torrent
Wtai this comp is bunker
you just figured that out?
glacial wadi
Lmaoo
remote siren
Fkuc glads
weak bolt
LAG molten core is such a satisfying purple
remote siren
Boring ass comp
next mesa
dallas so good
astral juniper
Dallas is a bit too focused on mirror comp
frank torrent
i brought it up for a reason gamer
remote siren
Play something thats skill
tawdry hamlet
At least my na knockouts should be right I have fuel shock
next mesa
At least my na knockouts should be right I have fuel shock
same
tawdry hamlet
verbal gorge
at least bunker requires aim and not w+m1 
frank torrent
oh and look at that the moment sparkle gets a little room to operate he pops off
dusty hound
is good to see the glad kinda contest dallas and their cringe ass comp
weak bolt
The risk for Fuel is that Point A could be the hardest bit for them on attack
ivory stag
why are they still on orisa lmao
frank torrent
HARD READS LMAO
untold blaze
Hi is there owl monday?
frank torrent
nah starts again thursday
untold blaze
Thx
verbal gorge
mirror is killing everyone what
frank torrent
yeah bunker is really damned good with no tracer around to screw with them
weak bolt
Wonder how many people in this chat would have gone mad if someone suggested putting Mirror in for Kevster at the start of this match
tribal flint
Casters had a great point, gladiators are just outlasting all of fuel's cooldowns/ults and outlasting them in team fights
next mesa
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON
tribal flint
Every fight looks like it's hugely in the fuel's favor and then it turns towards the end
tawdry hamlet
dusty hound
bunker in a nutshell
frank torrent
torb is overtuned that's what
he's been mildly buffed like eight times
overload CD reductions, reload, the shot spread fix patch, and the shotgun buff
next mesa
nah idk about overtuned
frank torrent
torb's uptime is near constant
weak bolt
Torb would be countered by long range hitscan if Dallas had one
frank torrent
^
verbal gorge
Wonder how many people in this chat would have gone mad if someone suggested put...
at least this is effective use of their sub players
remote siren
For being countered so hard
frank torrent
If Pine hadn't been mega cucked by visas this would be a much different match
verbal gorge
cant even be mad, trying a sub down 0-2
weak bolt
The hero is ok, just Dallas don't have a long range hitscan
remote siren
Not being abke to finish is kinda funny
glacial wadi
Personally I find echo/pharah/tracer very difficult to deal with as torb
weak bolt
Now I'm kinda malding though, why would LAG not play Birdring widow on defense now
ebon aurora
Genji Ana 😍
balmy wolf
"they dont care what the meta is" as they have been playing meta the entire series
remote siren
Thhyekeep playing torb
balmy wolf
remote siren
Its so funny
verbal gorge
the problem with the bunker comp is it has lesser chances to recontest
ebon aurora
damn
verbal gorge
the rush comp gets so many chances to touch
next mesa
ANA
balmy wolf
Yuo dtdoeevnn have to play correclty
dallas fan?
next mesa
LETS GOO
weak bolt
Every comp has skill lol, just in different ways.
verbal gorge
no idea why are u malding over bunker, its not even like a full double shield bunker
next mesa
torb needs to be stopped
dusty hound
Every comp has skill lol, just in different ways.
they are just salty bc dallas didnt 3-0
frank torrent
"they dont care what the meta is" as they have been playing meta the entire seri...
*They break the meta so hard that everyone copies them
FTFY
Don't sit there and tell me Sym was meta in May
remote siren
Nyxl fan
verbal gorge
birdring is looking for flanks as mccree and dva is playing to counter dive instead of being a full bunker
why are u malding lmao
tawdry hamlet
It's whatevs to me, Reminds me of when shanghai crushed sombra dive all season but the second a different comp challenged it they fell
next mesa
fielder got ANOTHER nano
ivory stag
i kinda hope glads win just cause the reverse roll would be sick
next mesa
sheeeeeesh
frank torrent
yeah his ana is cracked
shadow dagger
what’s the score?
frank torrent
Glad that LA pulled this so they can adapt for the playoffs
tawdry hamlet
It is so funny to think glads are close to winning with mirror on torb, such a random play but so fun
weak bolt
Was a good hold for LAG on point a though
tawdry hamlet
next mesa
2-1
frank torrent
Hopefully Pine can get over in time
shadow dagger
Ok fuel are winning right
tawdry hamlet
Purple torb coom is so pretty
frank torrent
Fearless is pissed lmao
ivory stag
rip obsriggette
frank torrent
they're adapting
next mesa
Ok fuel are winning right
yea
frank torrent
It's like watching a Cambion evolve a new skin in real time
shadow dagger
I believe. Let’s go glads
weak bolt
I can't wait for the echo nerfs, bored of dva bombs now lol
tawdry hamlet
Sadge philly lost, we were so close to getting a 4 way best rosters in the world June joust
weak bolt
Hanbin's carried this map, he's got like 2 kills in every fight
frank torrent
fearless is PISSED oml
tawdry hamlet
I knew rascal carpe eqo shockwave would be cracked but I was surprised by hotba Tobi for sure
glacial wadi
Big respect to mirror, he nearly solo carried glads
next mesa
FUCKING EASY CLAP
ebon aurora
ggs
next mesa
BABY
remote siren
Finally
tawdry hamlet
The valiant taking that philly map is so much pain
frank torrent
nae nae
noble nexus
😭
balmy wolf
😴
verbal gorge
yuck now we have to watch more goats
remote siren
Trob uabsers get rolled
frosty shell
glacial wadi
GG
frosty shell
glads comon bruh
noble nexus
"torb abusers"
balmy wolf
slaving meta 💤
remote siren
Bunker players
verbal gorge
🤢
weak bolt
Wonder how much Kevster on ping caused issues for LAG
remote siren
So disgusting
verbal gorge
residentsleeper
frank torrent
goats playing a flier
balmy wolf
thats literally the only thing they've played lmfao
frank torrent
C O P E
hollow river
i love seeing doom in owl
frosty shell
meta slaves are a lot worse imo
dusty hound
imagine liking dallas cringe
young locust
Sp9rk1e savage
tawdry hamlet
They're both valid comps who gives a fuck lmao
glacial wadi
So much copium from the dallas haters lol
young locust
Playing doom into brig torb baptiste
remote siren
Play ssomethin that takes skill
young locust
Holy shit
remote siren
Or dont play the game
verbal gorge
Play ssomethin that takes skill
typing properly takes skill you should try that
astral juniper
So much copium from the dallas haters lol
Ice cold take
raw ermine
gg
tawdry hamlet
Or just play the game, that's cool too
frank torrent
Fuel breaks the meta in half last month so hard people start copying them before the knockouts
Fuel is the only consistent Doom playing team this month to get anywhere
"meta slaves"
weak bolt
Dallas look beatable though, Shock and LAG have now exposed their weaknesses
remote siren
Atleast goats is fun to watch
balmy wolf
Atleast goats is fun to watch
funny joke
remote siren
Bunker is brakn dead
balmy wolf
this isnt even goats
verbal gorge
hahah
tawdry hamlet
If new York doesn't get pummeled I will be so surprised
balmy wolf
goats was 20x more boring
frank torrent
Look me in the eye and tell me a team that isn't playing any hitscans is a meta slave
remote siren
Dont even play the game properly
glacial wadi
I mean, something else that needs to be said is the removal of tracer and sombra has hurt dallas one of the most
frank torrent
^
remote siren
Dont take space
balmy wolf
Look me in the eye and tell me a team that isn't playing any hitscans is a meta ...
is widow ashe or cree meta
vivid dawn
New York beat Hangzhou tbh I think they have a chance
remote siren
Jstu sit on obj and right lick
frank torrent
Fuel lost two of their most common DPS picks in this tournament
verbal gorge
getting first seed is such a bait
frank torrent
And they still wreck
weak bolt
NYXL have the underdog factor, who knows what they could do
frank torrent
Entire truckloads of copium in this chat rn
balmy wolf
they do well because the meta isnt ashe widow 
tawdry hamlet
Idk hz was good in this meta but I don't know if New York's dps can bring them a victory
remote siren
@verbal gorge atleast you have seoul to root for
verbal gorge
????
remote siren
Or something
balmy wolf
good team overall
frank torrent
they do well because the meta isnt ashe widow <:WidowLUL:401758767655419904>
he says, ignoring cree's pickrate
balmy wolf
who the fuck roots for seoul
bandwagons
barren quest
who the fuck roots for seoul
Levy
balmy wolf
he says, ignoring cree's pickrate
ive only been seeing reaper echo