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his orisa and rein are definitely his best heroes
I don't remember much of his ball or winston
ye
being good on monkey doesnt mean youre good on orisa or rein
neo-goats v double shield, here we go
look at guxue
wait who are we overrating
I'd take all 3 of those over gator
in monkey meta sure
oge and sado both have great reins
i dont think this winston comp will work on a good orisa team like atl or in this case houston
youre delusional
Normally i'd say yes, but its fearless on winston
you see atlanta losing
Yea i'd probably take oge/sado rein over gator
and think its gators fault
sheesh
it's gator and hawk's fault
they lost against mayhem for example
WOW
ohhh
gator looked pretty good
HANBIN
hanbin 
what a beast
how do 3 even die there, I need to see replay
idk, where was immo
fuel invested so much there oof
fuel 3 0
^^^
yea
danteh
i forgot
this only the first map
its gonna keep going like that
boston sneaked in by luck
its not
i mean kinda but not as hard as houston did
if anything boston sneaked in
neogoats is very good on control
Fielder so fucking good
yeah
that was dominant
payload maps gonna be ds

hard meta diff
will Fuel struggle in a zen meta?
coal every fight 
fielder has a good zen iirc
he did the first couple of weeks
they rotated their support line around
then they fielded (no pun intended) Fielder 100% of the time and that's probably been part of Dallas looking really good since then
it's losers pick isn't it
thats some copium
yep
Hell yea
what map type is it 2nd
quick and easy 3-0
2cp i think
Maybe Anubis
meh anubis is good for that rush comp too
maybe volskaya, and emulate what glads did with their mccree ytd
Dallas basically run the neo goats on volskaya last tournament
you don't take them there
only difference was the sombra in over echo
Dallas would shred volskaya
they know this comp better than most teams
well all 3 assault maps are pretty similar imo
as they played some of it pretty much last tourney
Who did they rinse last time
crimzo ranked above viol2t and alarm 
thats alot of players
Suprised
think they have 3 of the fastest times here
Lol the records
yeah
LOL
why would you pick that against Dallas?
Aw man
of the 3 I think Dallas look weakest on Anubis
Sucks for Houston
3-0 go next
I'm staggered they didn't pick that
dallas wins
Houston map grief
Maybe keeping for later
Yea
are we seeing Genji? 👀
Because the main push points are huge one way chokes
Oml
Yesssss
Oh god oh fuck
We’ve got a chance
houston throwing assault to secure hybrid map pick 
sparkl throw pick
DOOM
when dallas goes off meta for .2 seconds
Lol
good lord that dive was flawless
Dang
already has meteor strike wtf Sparkle
nah, I meant pretty much
Pls god no
he was like 90%
sparkle holy crap
50k viewers? that's mad
2cpd
mine says 51
Not bad
yeah that was looking rough
At least it wasn’t a roll
to get that to OT is a good effort
yeah
there’s still a chance for Houston
thats how you get the clock to 0 even tho you lose every fight
did Houston pick this map?
it was a good effort it was hard
Yeah
yea
ja
yes, for some reason
not bad for houston tho
fuck doom
that rollout was disgusting
fr
such a stupid character
he gets 400 shield
ouch

jake better duh
jake brig hasnt even looked that good
wtf is this
Hanbin is so damn good
I swear he still gets underrated on the Fuel roster by people
its houston sneaking in top6
This is such a terrible comp
@ivory mason its houston regreting their map pick
ofc they gonna get rolled by 2nd best team
I literally have no idea
they should have picked voskaya
Anubis made tons more sense
for this sort of slow comp
could even have played Jakerat there ffs
finally
why are they still on orisa
because they wanna play orisa comps
Crimzo is so bad
they know they cant play monkey comp against dallas
and dreamer is getting farmed bc of it
a plat can look at this comp and tell them what to do
he's not bad, Fielder is just insane
can dreamer not play winston?
he can
but not to Fearless' level
then again, no-one is Fearless' level on monkey
houston is running orisa cause they cant mirror dallas on that comp
Smurf and that's about it
yeah smurf
Smrf
and I'd still take Fearless I think
but lets be fair, who can match fearless in the monkey?
oge probably
guxue maybe
well tbh smurf is really good
no, just no
guxue
guxue ppor guxue
i forgot about him
Oge is good, but not Smurf/Fearless level
they lost final homestand
oof
wait why was dreamer there
that was close
3-0 if they stay on orisa
he couldnt disengage
he was hiding
if they swap monkey maybe 3-1
ah
Houston trolling
so he can re engage with team but got caugh
aint gonna lie this meta fucking sucks
dude if they mirror dallas on the monkey rush comp they gonna get so hard gapped it wont even be funny
yeah
he shouldve just jumped off to reset
Dallas meta looks fun to play
delete moira please
Maybe not to watch
its like goats
they're already getting rolled
lol
fun to play
I don't blame Dallas for playing it, they played some of this in MM so it makes sense they play it here
boring to watch
ofcourse still boring af
is fun to play boring to watch, just like goats
sucks watching this after apac
Doomfist game time pog
^^
Yeah
apac meta is so much more enjoyable as a viewer
literally playing orisa
apac games were so much more fun
as long as it stops after JJ then I don't mind it too much
lost in the spawn room
what was meta in apac?
i really hope dragons can force na teams to play their comp
Dbb?
Well at least Houston can win regular season games now
or echo dva
Basically Houston is now philly
almost everything was played in apac knockouts today so much more diversity
yea
oh
also they use ana instead of moira so they playmaking looks way more intersting
whatever you are good at, they play their mains
instead of m1 + w
tbh houston played a different comp
Nice
they legit had the easiest schedule playing all bottom teams but titans and losing to the only decent team atlanta
but they will be forced to play dallas comp
yep
if they wanna contest them
yeah true
which is kinda sad
tbf Dallas did mix it up a bit there
because i will take double shield over this
with the Doom pick
Keep jjanggu in
honestly
Moira is better
its like the whole comp depends on who gets moira ult first
that's why they nerfed moira
i think the only hope we have at cracking this dumbass comp is shanghai
and its just feed till moira has ult and then win
and im fine with that
lets hope dragons forces team to adjust rather then adjusting themselves
w+m1 and press q
like in may melee
they ended up adjusting to dallas
rather then making them play their thing
I have a feeling Dallas would play something offball if they faced APAC teams
they gave resources to fleta instead of fate cause fate was feeding his brains out
did they do that for mm
that's the thing with Dallas, since they heavily depend on fearless monkey other teams have to adapt to counter him so the fuel fall to pieces
but fleta didnt really make it work during mm
if you not gonna nano the monkey ofcourse he will die when he goes to engage
true
his primals werent good either
i think that was just an adjusting period
which is why they swapped him to ball and be self sufficient
dragons looks alot better now
i do think fate is looking way better rn
hopefully now he can play with more confidence
they do
specially how he was setting ljg up
fleta kinda choked in mm with those ana dupes in overtime ngl
they are building chemistry
yea maybe we will get a rematch this time
also i kinda feel lip and fate got more done together with their dives compared to fleta and fate
houston went mirror
when lip was playing tracer , fate and lip were more clean with their dives
almost meta
why does houston like playing brig so much
fking knew it
alot of people still rate fleta super high but watching the may melee made me feel like fleta was hard underperforming
i dont deny that
brig counter monkey on paper
he isnt as good as ppl make him out to be
ok
but his mm performance wasnt inspiring compared to what lip was getting done alone
their is a reason he was taken out in grand finals last year
where is jake
as if they werent getting gapped in the first place
Brig is so bad in this comp tf

i just want dallas to finish this already
yes but playing orisa highered their chances of winning
they are special that way
if anything lower them, coal can just delete orisa
houston is trying to play dallas comp but with their own twist
rally takes so long to build compared to barrier the way these comps work
7 dva bombs doesnt look fun
what happened to jjangu?
if houston wanted to throw they shouldve went hog
did something happen with his performance?
rein 1 trick
man, cant wait for houston outlaws excuses ‘didnt prepare enough and shit’
nah he was playing monkey pretty well
is not fun
early in the season
orisa i get
but put him back for monkey
unless they dont trust his monkey at all
legit 0 idea why they switch jjangu out when they picked up piggy and jjangu for their preexisting tank synergy
thats what i am thinking
weird
cant wait for atlanta to destroy boston
lol
they really need to get off the brig
Houston should run Orisa
they did
she just gets ran over against that comp
they still lost
doesnt matter what they do they get roleld
2 maps
houston sucks
houston is not good in this meta
nah
i wish justice had made it
would have been so much better
justice mayhem and maybe even paris all better than houston right now
they probably want to do the same thing glads did to cloudy and make him a rein 1 trick
even paris would have been more interesting
lmfao and i thought this was gonna be a close match
if houston didnt get schedule rng luck they would be sitting with london and titans right now
which is dumb as fuck
i insta picked dallas and shock to go to play off
i wouldnt mind glads going
a 1 trick bad
well i mean
Skewed
skewed
ah
this is such a sleeper meta
in the glads vs fuel is going to come down to: "is space able to diff hanbin?" and a support diff, bc muze is nowhere near the level of fearless
Space won't be able to diff hanbin
doesnt matter what they run, they legit gapped on every role but maybe hitscan
happy > doha
well yeah dallas don't have a hitscan player
this would be alot more competitive if they put joobi on lucio
technically they have pine but he's not with them yet
ja
gg
ja
Remember when Paris beat boston
ja
so what was that with "gonna look better on next maps" 
ja
brutal
the overwatch league tab in game already has dallas winning 3-0 lmao
ggs
or was it?
oof
nah
houston washed lul
Nooooooooooooo
what a low quality series
just put in jjangu
can we just get to the next match
a sweep you hate to see it
houston
They’re Atleast 3rd best here
the quicker these matches end
we have a problem
summer showdown
Poor Dreamer
exexdedededexdedxxdxd
dallas v glads should be good - clash of comps
thats a yikes
houston we have a problem
what was my mind set when i picked houston to be one of the 4
they quicker we get to glads vs dallas
LOOOL
copium probably
I think it goes Dallas SH then outlaws
cant believe i was forced to watch this brig garbage for 3 games in a row
why brig
because
that was weird
lmaooo, outlaws arent even top8 right now

bc fuck it that's why
i legit wanna know how many rallies he got this entire series
imagine having a good lucio in your team and saying we arent playing you on your best hero
ig
absolute useless hero in this comp
damn 22.6k heals / 10 min
houston was just not great
This meta is zzz
the brig choice was an actual throw pick
dallas was better
I like how everyone though Houston will be 2021 champs just because they beat Shock at the start lmao
wot
so true haha
Apac teams are going to be fun to watch
Wonder how far NYXL will get
yeah i say that was funny im think hold your tongue there bud
bruh the outlaws have a prefect 0,1,2 score in the maps, they lost in style
yeah
its more funny
just dallas is much better than houston
that danteh told jjangu you are the best main tank now
maybe houston coaches wanted to prove joobi wasnt a lucio one trick
and he hasnt even played that good after that
or maybe jake sent joobi in for brig duty to prove that he has a spot on this roster
did junbuck ask crusty for his pipe or something?
a team with a crimzo joobi backline will never ever be successful
joobi isnt great
who is joobi btw? was he in a good contenders team?
since danteh join them he always has been their best player
yeah
happy was their best player in the start
crimzo is better than joobi
he was doing some magical stuff
joobi isnt great but if u dont even put him on his best hero u arent even giving him a chance to do anything
happy and danteh
true
its like having moth
yeah
this meta is pretty rough anyway
as coaches u need to give ur players the best chance to win, no matter how good or bad they are
yeah
or go to twilight and tell him to play lucio
Coal ult cost got nerfed
LOL that was would be funny af
or go to viol2t and tell him to play lucio
Thanks to Dallas and Shock ig
its like who is the worse lucio violet or twilight
that already happened tho
yes im memeing it
they nerf the charge rate but that mean you are gonna get 1 per fight instead of 2 is not much really
idk
lol
love me some moira skill expression
dallas just diff
Moira's kit just being shit design 👍
i ahte moira
moira is my worst
true
I always prefered watching APAC games over NA
More fun to watch and more variety in comps
even the shit tier teams go down with a fight
i cant relate to any apac teams so its just not enjoyable for me
who could have though that make a hero with 0 utility and only able to heal or deal tiny amount of damage is a bad idea
wym not relate?
like valiant is absolute garbage but the dps pop off once in a while
like i dont like any of them
even valient???
ah
unlike some of the NA teams
true
fam molanran is cracked
Since when is doom good against Cree reaper
free that man
Lmao
neee
like london and vancouver
fucking loved it
doom is good against anyone if you can kill the opponent fast enough
Free WYA hes their best playe
watching valiant kick fusion out of june joust
I heard Showcheng and Molanran carried
THAT WAS SO FUNNY
les go reign
reign will win easy
molanran actually carried that
Yeah but reaper and Cree are two counters lol
fucking fusion fans praying for charge just to watch them get sped run 0-3
lol
yea but not against sparkle doom
they hurt after valient took a map
imagine your one requirement is too 3-0 the team everyone 3-0
and you dont 3-0 them
must be sad
as a fusion fan i can confirm i was praying
yeah even while charge is getting 3-0’d in record time choisehwan was popping off left and right

Kinda curious about how Doom would work out instead of Reaper
so much more fun to watch compared to NA
apac is just good overall
did you see the dragons match?
yeah
where na has just eh
that match was a stomp
seoul got rolled
it legit wasnt even close
lijang tower felt like seoul was being played by 6 babies
ljg ended their careers in map 1
Seoul looked to be playing with no voice comms in the first map
that just learned how to use the keyboard
10 eviromental kills in one map wot
that thumbs up after he got the gesture kill
fdgod must be so wet watching that game
was amazing
tbh
doesnt fd die every fight
in neo goats lucio is the most vulnerable
ah true
reinforce heated? I havent been paying attention
shanghai wasnt running neo goats
why is super playing orisa?
ah
when smurf played orisa for them all last season?
Super looked fine on the Orisa
apac plays different
super channel need a video man
was there a need
Probably to reserve Smurf for Winston
prob
but arent you limiting your potential to switch comps?
if you trying to make super your orisa player
maybe
i really like the dallas team but someone really needs to roll them so they can rethink this garbage comp
i legit thought that smurf was the best orisa in the league last year
so idk about this decision either
he was
maybe its to keep super warm in scrims
if it works tho
he played all the orisa even in season 2 when they switched to double shield
i know but i just want a change
i legit hope this happens too but at this rate this might just be copium
true
smurf is one of the most solid and flexible tank player in the league
i wanna believe
maybe if dva matrix was fucking broken
ana could sneak a nade in
and that comp would disintegrate
a good ana might still be able to nade that
yea
time to see lily cry
kekw
REINFORCE ROASTING
pls dont
Reinforce'd Roasting
they both roasting each other
What was the score for fuel?
no one’s gonna play moira next tourny, its not gonna get banned
fuel won 3 0?
yea
Isn't there going to be no hero pools next tournament?
they prob will ban echo, moira and ether dva or monkey so is pretty unlikely
#esports-discussion message feels good man
how can u be sure, maybe we get monkey banned and we have this with rein instead 
echo dva gonna be banned
summer showdown has no hero bans
and probbaly lucio or moira
So anything is available
ah
Don't expect the neo goats comp to continue going after this
Countdown cup is like over 2 months away, could be anything. Plenty of time for weird patches before then
yeah hopefully blizzard does mix things up
edison!!!
with rein and sombra back in the mix neo goats fall apart
reaper sunday
Some hero gets overbuffed later on lul
fam do u remember sombra goats?
we see neogoats again
ayyyy, edison playing
oh god now i fear for the next tournament
goats was the best overwatch meta to watch and play by far. it just lasted to long and got repetitive
dat tru do
i dont mind goats if there’s good plays instead of moira spraying piss everywhere
good zen play i can appreciate
thank god dragons came and destroyed all the goats team in stage 3
tank synergising with ults i can appreciate
Can we have neo goats with Zen Lucio
if goats is back i wanna see bumper back in the league
Well later on if this comp will still continue to be played after this tournament
WHY IS ATLANTA PLAYING MONKEY COMP INTO BOSTON
this comp is literally boston best comp
its lijang
Gator should be on Orisa
you have to play neogoats
they can play orisa on lijang aswell
paris played orisa comp on lijang as well and it worked
rip hawaii
how so
finally got the point
YESSS
ooh
monke diff
fianlly
YEEAA
atlanta better not lose
they were playing with them just giving them some hope
true true
wow, reign learned from this and got better
delusional
i saw gator t bagging in the corner
hello sweetie
hello babe
whats new
ready to watch ur shit team lose?
tru
lily malding rn
mald
lily prolly just gonna avoid this chat for weeks
reign and paris > boston
if atlanta wins
i couldnt even bet with her
all better
i think she was scared
3-0 'd Toronto and Justice
-200 in 1 week
cause justice decided to int week 1 for fun
week 1 of june joust, i mean
tbh as a houston fan i think from now on i should just watch the regular season games and pretend that knockouts dont exist
boston got lucky in week 1
did houston do well?
sadly nei
they try
they got dumpstered
they did they best they could
Not in the slightest
sorry im asking the people who have actual game knowledge, dont talk
yeah they tried the same thing
they forced double shield and lost convincingly
did better in the third one
Excuse you, I got bronze damage as bastion in my ranked game yesterday
game knowledge, pick bastion
pick one
kai time
EXCUSE ME, YOU'RE TALKING TO BRONZE DAMAGE
thats not hard
it is hard
not really
anubis 
amazing clip
have you played bastion
It’s hard if you’re not skilled 😎
ja
that clip is legendary
dallas about to claim that #1 spot on anubis
whenever i wanna have a laugh i go back to this
gator going back to orisa
one more horsepower
lol
Oh shit Gator can’t int anymore
maybe
shut up wiener
gg go next lily
i mean shanghai has the number 1 for anubis this year
Anubis is a pretty chill map tho
true
OHHHHHHHHHHH MYYYYYYY GOOOOOOOOOOOd
why did myunbong run in there
shifter is hyped
i always get hyped over shit like this
hahahaha
bruh
boston is straight garbage
?????
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
its like overwatch Comp X1000
Pro boston
WTF HAPPENED
boston ?
OMG
Wtf was that
Boston are so bad
professional players btw
kekw
who knew putting kai in would get a c9
that replay was sad to watch
the moira was so afraid to not die
kai9
my man really just casually walk up to the point and everyone in Boston was like understandable have a great day
LOL
kai is not human
echo diff
XD
they all just built diff
wow
how is kai not dead ???
iris
no clue
iris through immo and then everyone peeled to keep him safe
did you watch his health bar?
then down, then up, then down then up
I like how they use mininal resoures to keep hin alive then use the reources to create space
yea
Tyhe use one immoetiaoity field
Boston with the strong pushes, all the time
already a min down
they just want to kill kai
and put way too much resources into that
these immortality fields are so good, compared to what we saw in the previous series
^^^^
Honestly i would see kai as a priority if he can do stuff like he did earlier
gg i guess
pelican is so good
gg
pelican and kai vs striker and nero is gonna be so good
thats brutal
Bro
that was brutal
sadly the tanks on atlanta arent as good as choi and smurf
yea
How good is Iris and Masaa?
iris is doing pretty good
iris insane
and masaa on lucio is solid
Massa ls like great value ljg
5g
value ljg XD
masaa great lucio
LOL
ints lesser than ljg, but pops off lesser than ljg
masaa or fdgod whos better lucio though
fdgod
tempted to say fdgod
not even a question
@verbal gorge wrong game
id say masaa
funnyastro
Fgdod is totally just worse ljg
because fdgod might go for a play and just feed
Like feeds more
Im surprised how well reign is doing i expected valentine to pop off a little more on echo
nah pelican is really good
reign doesnt surprise me anymore
nah, this isnt suprising
Less plays
pelican has that chaotic energy like sparkle
boston is terrible, reign is upper mid tier
if u have good tanks u pick fdgod if u have bad tanks u pick maasa
pelican comps are always funny to hear
but will it be a clean 3-0?
pelican for roty
after shy
shy or gaga for roty
shy is nuts, too bad hangzhou choked
tbh last year was lips
Ljg is like the best lucio and mecry and brig
not gaga
alarm was sadly too good
Tpo 5 player imo
ljg best mercy? what are u smoking bud

