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yea thats what im sayin man
Dragons could lose if Playoff Profit/Gesture turn up
That's the thing
Plus toyou is looking good aswell
Profit is going to turn up, lock Torb, and dominate fleta in the neutral
Or the fits from the nucleus series
Also fits is popping off
nah, have u seen fleta's torb?
Fletas torb is good, but play off profit is unbeatable
Idk. Tbh fits hasn't been that hot on the widow
After today's match anything can happen
dragons will team diff
Except when shock comes for you
Ye
Seoul to play Torb, Sym, Hog, Zarya, Lucio Moira and go on a run
That is such a cancer comp
I want to see bastion mai
Bastion Sym double shield comp
lets hope gesture doesnt play hog again
Bastion junk double barrier
I literally miss junk
Whoru is going to come in, lock the genji and get a 7k nano blade
Yes
i could see it happening

https://twitter.com/NYXL/status/1401483460607361026 lol the shade at Philly
We dedicate this victory to the LA Valiant. Ggs Spark.
#EverUpward #OWL2021 https://t.co/dLCQS3MyCv
L O L
philly misses another stage 
It’s really their curse lmao
how can they be the best team in the region and fail to qualify twice
Ye
3-0
That didn't work for spark tho
It's too loud in there they cant hear each other talk
Yup. It's not.
watch phily not qualify for stage 3 and stage 4
Dallas are good enough, we dont need a genji buff
We need something crazy like a junkrat buff that makes him meta
jakerat
I'd take a junk meta over a genji blade meta
Probably just back to a dive meta for summer showdown though really. Moira/Echo nerfs, and tracer/sombra back
What on gods green earth did I wake up to
Apac shenanigans
nyxl team diffing the spark

Was it close or a stomp?
HZS played well map 1, then NYXL turned up and just dominated
full held
But fr tho. I think Seoul win this if profit and gesture dont feed. It's going go be a long fight every map. Both teams having great off tanks is going to stall this out. Izyaki I dont think is as good as anamo or creative and then the dps are about even
as long as they dont put fleta on the cree we win
Put him on legs instead 😄
💪 
It looks a little scrappy on paper, but good job NYXL
actually god gaming
good lord Shanghai are on fire
no CHANCE
report Achilios for unsolicited ASMR mic
Reddit Lucio let's gooo
what a masterclass of a round from Dragons
It's just map part 1
that was flawless
Holy shit
It was tho
Seoul caught lackin
There is no better opening to a series
LJG the carry
already more breadsticks than vancouver
Sell him to Titans for unlimited breadsticks
I still believe

Hes controlling the whole match
is this Seoul playing badly or Shanghai just playing out their minds?
That lucio
Seoul isn't playing badly but they're just not coming in with the right strats
yeah no shield pressure
LJG has got more opening kills than everyone ellse on the server combined
AHAHAHHAHA XD
LeeJaeGon difference
HOW EVEN
Bruh
TEN????????
oh god
Seoul got rekt
dude that BM
this match
no way
HAHAHA
That's it
no fricking way
hHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Just stop
Just stop the series right here
💪
EZ
NOW THAT'S THE OWL LEAGUE I WANT TO WATCH
I LOVE THIS SO MHCH
Lucio DIFF
LETS GO DRAGONS!!!!








MAN LEEJAYGON IS MAKING THIS SO MUCH FUN
holy LJG
LeeJaeGon skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane...They need to check him pc and game...Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit.and this cant seem on screen.
17 seconds · Clipped by Ecopoint Overwatch · Original video "Seoul Dynasty vs Shanghai Dragons | June Joust Qualifiers | Week 3 Day 3 — Hangzhou Spark Homest...
what a comment on reddit: "Petition to change Lijiang Tower into LeeJaeGon Tower"
wtf 10 boops
I'm crying
Literally amazingg
LeeJaeGon skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane...They need to check him pc and game...Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit.and this cant seem on screen.
10 Boops and that's a 200-0 map
Best map in ages
Literally no overtime in either map too
I bet 10 boops was probably more kills than all of Seoul
FDGOD has BIG competition
👍
competition? more like outplay
Like, was that the fastest Control Map in OWL history?
I would be hard pressed if you can
i think we just saw one of the best lucios plays of all time
that was so sad
you can only get these kinds of casting quiffs when there's a live stage I tell ya
Let's see how will he do on unboopable maps
There was no overtime , their was no point taken
Hangzhou homestand are having a riot today
It was literally instantly capped and went 100 to 0
LeeJaeGon straight up fragging
At least the crowd has had something to cheer
That's not a difference. That was a polar opposite
The fucking gap
that's easy, he'll go brig
We should give credit to Dragons Orisa for the pulls
Praise Fate
incredible teamwork
yeah it was good co-ordination, combined with Seoul being dumb and not checking corners
How many times do you fall for halt + boop
m8 he got like 8 boops with no halt
its just him fucking
the boops were good but leejaegon straight up fragged toyou and fits
The mei pick was a hard throw too honestly
this is like what you see when a t500 lucio plays in plat
This match reminds me of FDGOD lijang tower quadruple Boob POTG
This is what I expect on a fucking Eskay Highlights compilation
mad lucio boops pt 55
ok
shy, guxue, m1ka, coldest,
fate, void, eileen, cr0ng,
molanran, highbee, leave, farway1987 https://t.co/AZw2QLhtdm
so it's not exactly a surprise to see all the OWL players have their own all-stars match midway into the season
Team China is gonna fuck in world cup
He is insane
yikes
Jeez
not fits fault
lip widow pog
Well I feel no attachment to either team no matter how this goes
where can I find the English one?
there is no english one
their stats will tend to appear different from the regular cast because this is a costream to the Chinese one
ok seoul is getting shit stomped rn
JUNE JOUST ANY%
ahahahhahaha XD
this is a gg
uh
holy shit i feel so bad for Seoul
look everybody expected shanghai to win
seoul
but this
wasn't Spark 7 minutes vs Chengdu?
Dragons got it in the bag bois!
That's a record right??
you never know
most of this shanghai roster has remained the same, they know how to beat seoul
Technically. It's still wildly inconsistent since they weren't like this last time they played
fate is the only change
Reminder that in the May Melee, the Shanghai managed to reverse sweep Seoul in the APAC Grand Finals.
Nothing is impossible for this team
The Greatest Reverse Sweep of All-Time
HEADSHOT
AFTER HEADSHOT
AFTER HEADSHOT
remember they full capped junkertown after they got held at spawn doors to overtime?
God, that was such a match for the ages
seoul have finally woken up
first teamfight seoul has won
what a rock from Void
fleta is out for blood
They should've gotten a tick off that
they did
They did
That was probably their best chance lol
33.8%
Oh ok ok
SHD can cycle ults now
"As long as profit dosnt feed"
fleta brig for the finish
fleta misses goats
this new meta too easy to beat he says
(not that shd played goats)
this makes me feel a lot better after Charge got 3-0'd yesterday to Seoul
new record on anubis
fastest ever bois
wow
lol
Holy shit
new record
Shanghai 💪
Shanghai are just on another level today
who do you have?
Swear we'd seen 5+ min times before on Anubis, but then I guess that was pre-patch to remove a minute from 2cp



Can't wait for the Boston and Houston qualifying later
getting 5+ mins on 2cp is super hard nowadays ever since the respawn changes
and the removal of the additional minute when you cap A
the spawns is what really did it
defense barely has any ults when they come and get rolled
that was the problem and no positioning advantage
Hawaii is going to be interesting, Apac is very keen on double shield, where as NA is the neo-goats
their orisa heavy but they also like certain maps better
what?
what??
ok i think im stupid
why did fleta duplicate baptiste 2nd last fight
I have Fuel and Shock
Probably had to use it to avoid dying
It'd be good if they can honestly, Crimzo Moira and Joobi Lucio is probably one of their strongest combos
Crimzo's Moira is nowhere near as good as Fielder's
and?
lol
supports are the most important component in neo goats
nice comparison
Its gonna depend on map pool
If there are some long range hitscan maps, Happy could dominate
Houston were higher seed I think
full hold incoming
meta shifting towards double shield
Apac meta is double shield, but NA will stay as neo-goats for the best teams I think
apac showed you
💪 
neogoats teams lost
what a performance
nice
which apac teams were good at it though
the crowd cheers come early so u can see if someone is gonna kill someone
Ez clap
^
Seoul get rekted
you can also tell if someone is gonna get a kill if the player cam is on this "lip" guy
SHD EZPZ
jkjk
Shame spark couldn't do it.
Don’t worry guys that was just a scrim
Maps for these matches were pre-determined right? It wasn't map pick?
Seoul fans are crying their eyes out.
seoul only capped once
spark dragons seoul
lets see that stat sheet bois
More than Fusion fans?
Y is it that at the times when it is the most important, Seoul decide to lose.
The only time you’ll see Valiant and Victory in the same tweet https://t.co/rTWReqNmyc
McGravy with the banging tweet
leejaegon solo won lijang
Like at least get one point
Show us that Seoul actually gave a shit
they capped A on anubis
I meant 3-1 but ok
what should've happened in 2020 grand finals 
Ah ah. Now there, we could see that Seoul actually gave a shit
cucked by kaplan
But here, what the actual fuck
Idk if Seoul was just throwing or if they even cared about qualifying
They played a bad comp on map 1, and then just got team diff'd on the rest
Honestly
https://twitter.com/Hangzhou_Spark/status/1401503724846018561 For anyone who doesn't follow twitter
Although the APAC qualifier matches are over, the Hangzhou Homestand isn't yet!
To conclude, we will have one more show match in the venue!
📺https://t.co/1aIrFZmgRH
#SparkIt | #HangzhouSpark
role stars over here
https://twitter.com/imAVRL/status/1401505456971911169 Co-Stream if you dont want to use bibbli
the lack of chinese tanks is clear
but on the bright side
this is going to be one lucky Valiant player's first win today
https://i.redd.it/rsh66365qm371.png Brilliant lol
great to see coldest, farway and M1ka playing rn
unfortunately, he doesn't look like he lives for longer than 100s before leaves/molanran dink on him
Guxue's definition of fun is off role guxue vs shy beyblading with void and eileen on ana
no it's not mental, their entire strategy was rolled up in one and shanghai threw it in the trash
Who won all the games in drunk and only looked up and saw new York in my sub box but I don't give a duck really because my knockouts had shanghai lmaooo
Shanghai and hz I meant
Unfortunately
Tragicccccc
I find it interesting how all the maps besides Busan in the Shock-Wash series weren't really close 
I find hanamura to be entertaining because it is a mystery between whether a team will be epic and force their best comp or if they will play sym for the to
Tp
It's even more fun because it isn't like tanks where the worse teams play orisa and the better team plays monkey brawl it's like even the top tier teams can force sym if they feel like it for lols
do you see the odds of shock not making it back for JJ higher than before after the justice match?
I only watched the highlights
But I don't rate Atlanta
Smurf and Choi poo all over Gator and Hawk
too unstable of a prediction to make an upset, for sure
gator and hawk just kinda wait out the opportunities when they win fights
they let it come to them in the moment, rather than creating one
Pelican differential
big if true
I’m a believer in one upset in NA
Atlanta believer
But not super strong Bc also like they have to play Shock but there is upset potential
Yeah Boston will upset Atlanta 
Boston probably gonna get smoked tbh
Yeah
They are very lucky to even be in
Idk but this is the only meta I feel like glads go to cross
I don’t think Glads beating Houston is that much of an upset but beating Dallas yeah
dallas wins against houston
I have dallas and shock going in
I'm such a simp for dallas I just really want them to win everything again
Shanghai needs to win this tourney
do we talk about the results of the NYXL vs Hangzhou match?
please for the love of god don't respond to the spoiler if you haven't seen it: ||NYXL wins||
but then again there is no encore screening afaik
I think Dallas losing to glads is upset but Houston losing isn't upset imo based on Dallas just playing out of their minds when backed into a corner whereas Houston is good and all but realistically coaching can only get you so far ya know
Even if they play good their still limited by the skill ceiling of their roster imo
why wouldn't it be an upset for Houston to beat Dallas?
coaching gap is not so big after all
but it's noticeable
ah, gotcha 
glads glads glads
that 4-0 better be substantial when it gives them a shot at Hawaii
I want more shu playing out of his mind
Glads have gotten better this tourney, last tourney birdring looked a lil shaky
and finally get some respect that's overdue
Finally earn that top 3 na spot most rated them at in power rankings
houston and boston gonna get fked out first round
oh nvm, boston playing against atlanta could be a win
fearless and hanbin carries too hard
I'd love to see glads and dallas but I don't think it's possible?
or is it I haven't seen the brackets?
glads an dallas are on the same side of the bracket
dang justice lost to shock eventually
i hope glads shock make it
So
Who won apac games
I didn't watch I only saw nyxl win
I presume shanghai tho
As you would expect
Shanghai ate Seoul alive
Nice
Inconsistent Seoul is my favorite Seoul hehe
By that I mean seoul every game ever is my favorite seoul because I don't think consistency is in their vocabulary

So who is gonna win it all? Shock or shanghai for me
shanghai
Boston
Im hopin for Shock but shanghai are good
atlanta
Titans Kappa
Valiant 👁👁
all the shanghai players are so tall then there is fate and void
what time do the matches start?
watch them walk out in their match from earlier
3pm EST
Ok ty
Houston Boston finals
That would be awesome.
As of right now I am living in NYC, does that make me a NYXL fan after they beat my team?
Actually let me rephrase
I just don’t want the shock to win
Is that too much to ask for?
Shock all the way! woooo lol
Honestly I have nothing against the shock I just want to see someone else dominate
which teams have been eliminated?
hangzhou and seoul
they straight up got diffed
i cant
I don't like shanghai as much as philly but if they don't win a single tourney I'd be disappointed because they're literally one of the best rosters ever so I have faith considering I believe in their dps more than shock but still could go either way
Jfc
46 to 5
imagine trusting seoul lol
theyre gonna win grand finals
I think Titans and just titans deserve to be relegated
Get aced 3 times in a row wtf
Are these players even trying?
Whack team lmfao
Anamo SO ASS
ur team sucks
Ikr
its elims
no fucking idea
Hehe Tobi moment
I average like 20 per 10 min on cree lol
his multiple environmental kills probably helped him
Is it a hot take to say lucio is Tobis worst hero rn?
watch lijiang
honestly man
cant even be mad
ljg just made seoul his little bitch
it is what it is
At least your team didn’t lose a map to the Valiant
when shanghai invebitaly beefs during the tourney i will be watching leejaegon on lijiang over and oever
I put dallas 🤡
You say that as if Reign are gonna beat Uprising Shock and Shanghai
sure
on anyone but echo yeah
Fleta would bitch slap him ngl
mehhh
but i saw him popping off the whole time
i think you’re thinking about birdring
even in losing fights he had a good showing
the actual carry
birdring is strong
but he has popoff moments
and then he dies first
a bit too inconsistent
ok let’s agree to disagree
muze has looked really good on monkey
yeah
he shines now
On orisa too
Space is by far the weakest part of glads
If glads had snagged gbs they’d be almost unstoppable
Yall are clinically underrating NYXL
They have a real shot to win the whole thing
friday looks like a top 5 main support
Jjonak is jjonak
Moth looks terrible in this meta cuz dive
Flora is my current candiate for rookie of the year
but in general yeah i agree
Feath3r is amazing on echo and reaper
Ivy is Ivy
Bianca is very solid
Same with Yakpung
muze is a rookie right
nyxl will be bitch slapped by shanghai and the NA teams
and gwangboong hopefully wont play
shanghai got 3-0ed by spark, who later went on to get fucked up by NY
that doesnt mean a thing
On individual roles NYXL can match most teams
i dont think they can
if glads and shock get through from NA they definitely diff NYXL
NYXL is def stronger than glads lol
Shu, Izayaki, Viol2t and twilight are quite better than Jjonak
jjonak*
Shu hasnt showed us any real performences in 2021
Bianca is possibly better than space but choi and void?
Jjonak has proved that he can compete with literally anyone
shu literally hard carried a recent game
Flex support cant carry NA meta
philly was having an off week
i wouldnt call that a major win
Shu is a top 5 FS
because of that one off week?
essenza lost his mind
in the first week philly was definitely off, you cant disagree
Its been lost
long ago
Moths lucio been ok, his mercy is ehhh but not as bad as space has been, skewed has been an elite brig though
Remember when i gassed up crimzo last year
Someone here def remembers that
@next mesa
I know you where there
nah
And win this whole thing
GUYS CRIMZO WILL BE MVP CANDIDATE NEXT YEAR AND CONSIDERED TOP 5 FS
yes
I witnessed
🙋
Still believe 🙏
He has looked very strong for the record
Watson had him number one for the first few weeks
thats because outlaws was pounding
I think moth will look good again when rein can be played
because glads have been undefeated I guess
Maybe I’m just on moth fanboy copium
I picked fuel though
For sure yeah, I heavily doubt hes as bad as he’s looked in this meta
trust in fearless 🙏
Glads had a very nice strength of scheduale
Yeah there just hasn’t been a lot he can do as mercy or lucio against dive
Especially when skewed is playing like a psychopath
Glads hasnt played a top team yet
Boston, Paris, Atlanta, Vanc
No Shock, Dallas, or Washington
I’d argue that shock are a top team
Lucio is also pretty hard to look good on in neo goats, as daan said he’s easily the most killable hero out of all hero’s used in neo goats, so naturally lucios being targeted will make them look worse
In this cycle*
For sure
They arent up to snuff like shock and dallas
I think glads can go head to head with shock
shock and dallas played 1 good team
Glads can win if they play well enough with their orisa dva comps... on the dive mirror idk
each other
Well i think muze looked great in dive
does dallas play glads or shock when they beat houston?
glads
oh then ggs
shock played washington
I think i’d rather see muze on orisa than monke though
probably 3-1
Muze orisa is really good
I believe that glads take a map
I want to see Dallas NYXL in the finals
hard to rate washington
2 cursed franchises
Dallas was always at the bottom
NYXL could never reach the top
Glads have 2 top 5 supports i’d argue
washington are definitely a top team, when they play decay 
Shu and skewed
Decay is the best in the world
No one can disagree with me
if you do
I honestly dont care
Viol2t
leave better
turns out shy is also a hyperflex
Our main support King
who would've known
birdring plays everyone
Pharah
Lip?
he just hasnt competed
Can we consider rascal a hyperflex
nah not lip
Striker?
besides obviously his hitscan
Krystal used to be a hyperflex
jake is #1 flex 🙏
We saw it countdown cup last year
Yeah striker is a good shout
I thought rascal played it
In semi finals against mayhem striker played
He didn’t look amazing b
But they won the map
Theres one more in my head that I cant remember
Sooo
eh
Eileen
Cree and widow
And tracer
they play him hitscan over kaylee
which isnt a high bar
but still
i think thats just a testament of how bad kaylee is
like is libero a hyperflex
played over nenne
maybe
carpe?
Carpe doom right?
he plays torb, reaper right?
Mirror? He’s played loads of different heroes
He also played genji against NYXL
only time i remember carpe genji is when he got headshot by taimou faceblank
Mirror doesnt play hitscan
thats about it doe
Tbf he plays everything apart from hitscan
when im thinking about hyperflex i was thinking more u can play the majority of all dps heroes
what proj does happy play
does danteh play widow ashe
happy plays hanzo right
fits plays hanzo too and doom but i wouldnt consider him a hyperflex
Philly fans after they lose a map to valiant
twilight has had the most success out of the runaway roster
Yes
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what is the shock gm tryna do...
@next mesa A seoul fan?
You a geng or lunatic hai fan?
lunatic hai
I remember when ur name was still lunatic hai run it back
Day ♾ of Diya not being signed in OWL
Im a lw blue fan
technically, it was 1314 days
Ah so you’d be happy with Ado on Seoul?
shock schedule free
whoever wins shock is gonna beat regardless
boston atlanta 
hmm
pretty confident
I support an official renaming to LeeJaeGon Tower
not really
hes not bad on winston
but not good
but atl will prob just play ds and dominate
and?
yeah gator > stand1
And he’s been fuckin’ on monke lately
Listen
I know my username revolves around the conception that Stand1 is a bottom 5 mt
same
But Gator is bottom 4
lol
oof
yeah
but hes atleast average
hes kinda missable compared to others
It’s not more that he’s shit
It’s more the actual talent in the league outshines him by a mile
winston is hard
Fearless
ja
mag
Ga9a
fearless i think is one of the best winstons
yeah fate
thats 8
Gator is just above Hadi and Daan
ok dude
And Silver3 but that’s a given
i know thats your opinion
But it’s wrong?
its definitly wrong
That’s also your opinion 
his worst hero is monkey
who else is gator above then
and even on monke hes average
Silver3 Hadi Daan Fusions
Wait JJangu and Dreamer are on the “better” list
Probably better than Rio imo
stand1 hadi rio jihun silver3 daan yakpung changsik
Better orisa than Guxue
thats just monkey
Oh shit Changsik exists
believe me or not
Oh lord give me strength
gators orisa is toptier
Gator > Yakpung?
yakpung wasnt promising
and gator is?
Marbel really watched S2 Defiant and made his mind up there
only reason gator isn't bottom tier this season is because the bottom tier tanks are pitiful
Even Gator rein is questionable imo
i watch apac
leejaegon skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up...
Hard inted against teams like Shock and Mayhem
leejaegon skilled player but that is not normally, This very very insane....They need to check him pc and game.....Maybe he not cheating but maybe he using the game deficit ...and this cant seem on game screen..He needs to check-up...
but even then gator has consistently been the main point of why atl is always mid tier
you didnt watch reign games
Hurt to watch
gator and hawk gotta go if atl want's to win anything
you actually didnt watch
I've never watched owl ever
I watched vs Outlaws and he looked good on his only good hero
he only played orisa there
Gator is fine
gator hawk are rein dva orisa sig one tricks
No I meant like just because
and looked rlly good
sure
Legit if atl got a better tank line they might actually win things
But a bad choice as the only mt on a team for consistent performances
im literally agreeing with you about his monkey being weak
but but he only looked bad against top teams
And I’m agreeing that his orisa is aight
nah
But I can’t make a valid argument for his rein or ball
youre a bit over the top here
Gotta be harsh when comparing him to other main tanks
his rein/orisa are decent and that's about it
yeah
yeah but youre saying hes one of the worst
me neither its tight
probably dalls
i pred dallas to win bc sos for them was better
Houston win if they can get good maps for hitscan
Have Outlaws actually faced or played the neo-goats?
he looked worse than sado and oge on monkey
If not I think dallas wins
they played florida and toronto so id imagine so
His orisa is in the top half at best, but his other heroes put him so low that it’s an insult to other players to rate him higher
that was week 1 though
why does every atl fan try to say gator and hawk aren't the issues with the team
before the meta settled
3-1 for dallas
Dallas 3-1
Gator and hawk are 100 percent the issue
do Dallas play something completely random like they did in may melee
entitled opinion, i might be an atlanta fan, but im not biased on him.
youre just making him look worse than he is
Match doesn’t matter here, Glads still take 2nd in the JJ
Anyway one opinion is another
wtf my pickems changed on its own
idk, I think Dallas could beat Glads
oh defo
I had glads and shock advancing and now its changed to dallas and shock randomly
hes an above average main tank monkey is his weakness but hes fine
I did glads/shock for the memes
I had glads shock not for the memes
No gator is not above average lmao
He's incredibly mediocre
not on winston
who?
he really isn't anything special tbh
you only rate mt on winston or what
He's lucky we have daan/hadi/silver3/chanksik in the league so he doesn't look so bad
his orisa and rein are decent but there are so many people that are better than him on those heroes
who are we talking about
gator

