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[hot onyx]

Stoner preds

3-0 Fusion

[sullen berry]

straight up

[balmy wolf]

i have 3-0 fusion

[hot onyx]

Bias

These predictions were brought to you by the CCP

[tawdry hamlet]

I had charge, but I saw eqo and with 3 minutes left put 3-0 fusion lol

[balmy wolf]

they back

[tawdry hamlet]

lets see if I live to regret it

[sullen berry]

Imagine booing a team who is not physically there

[tawdry hamlet]

lolll

[sullen berry]

what a way for EQO to come back

[little tusk]

wait is philly not there???

what lmao

[sullen berry]

the only teams physically travelling between homestands are the... hear me out

[little tusk]

what's this rofl

[sullen berry]

the teams in china

[balmy wolf]

yeah

[little tusk]

a LAN for two teams epic bro

[balmy wolf]

seoul still in lockdown

[little tusk]

hahahah thats just dumb

[hot onyx]

Never regret

[sullen berry]

so you still have them playing from the same location except for valiant, dragons, spark and hunters

[hot onyx]

Only big points

[sullen berry]

nah watch the homestand diff

Spark 2-0 this weekend

[tawdry hamlet]

[willow tartan]

homefield advantage

[tawdry hamlet]

fuck

it is double shield

I should have gone charge I think

lmao

eqo cree

[little tusk]

why is eqo the hitscan

[sullen berry]

Guangzhou double shield diff

[willow tartan]

double shield is better than winston rush

[little tusk]

isn't that carpe/shock's job

[forest raven]

APAC playing mei double shield

[balmy wolf]

eqo >>>> carpe

[tawdry hamlet]

eqo falling off da point lmao

[sullen berry]

triple shield lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

charge running sym

[hot onyx]

Ok EQO is having a better performance on hitscan in one minute than Carpe has in 2 games

[little tusk]

at this point I feel like everyone is a cree main

[tawdry hamlet]

who hasn't played cree this season lmao

[little tusk]

lmao

poor eileen

[tawdry hamlet]

literally every team has played everyone at some point, also if you want crowd noise you have to watch on bilibili

I think

[hot onyx]

Checkmate

[willow tartan]

watch chinese stream for better experience or watch NA stream for tokens

[balmy wolf]

tokensd

[tawdry hamlet]

lowkey, if they get their whole roster, I have philly winning the league now that shanghai is down diem and shock are down ans and rascal

[little tusk]

I don't speak chinese

[balmy wolf]

all the way

[little tusk]

diem didn't mean shit for shanghai lol wtf

they barely even played him

they used lip over diem every time

[tawdry hamlet]

regardless of how often he was used this season he was still a top tier hitscan, to be fair they didn't use him last season then put him in the finals and he fucked

[little tusk]

he isn't bad

but he isn't necesarry for shanghai

[sullen berry]

thotba

[willow tartan]

tbh I still don't understand why diem left

no fearless, no diem, the roster is disbanding :(

[balmy wolf]

?

[little tusk]

cuz he got benched every match lol

[balmy wolf]

diem is whatever

lip is better

[willow tartan]

no in his retirement post he said that he wasn't "prepared for it" or whatever

[tawdry hamlet]

ooh mow we doing it it

lets goo

[willow tartan]

like he couldn't handle it

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah in his video he said he wasn't able to handle the pressure and that he climbed too high it is all in his letter to the fans

on their twitter

[little tusk]

hitscan mains have shitty mental

for some reason I aim a lot better when I'm down as well so idk

the more depressed the better the aim 😎

[sullen berry]

damn Kariv constantly trying to show up Alarm

[balmy wolf]

sound is fucked

you hear everything twice

[tawdry hamlet]

da 3k

[little tusk]

imagine duplicating someone that isn't dva

[tawdry hamlet]

[little tusk]

dva echo needs a nerf

[mortal abyss]

CARPE WAS THE PROBLEMM

Use billibi to watch

[tawdry hamlet]

eqo stronk

[slow lodge]

EQO TO SAVSE THE JUNE JOUST

[hot onyx]

Carpe comes back in and EQO subs out Hotba for off tank

[little tusk]

is there rly a building with hanghzou spark on it

[slow lodge]

that's just displaylights

[little tusk]

yeye I know that but I was wondering if it was real

[balmy wolf]

fusion is in with a 3-0

[little tusk]

or just edited in for the vid

[hot onyx]

Marbel please dont jinx this

[balmy wolf]

if they lose a map

[hot onyx]

Or else Charge will sub out Rio

[balmy wolf]

gg

[mortal abyss]

Why would charge sub out rio

[hot onyx]

Jihun

[mortal abyss]

As long as fusion don’t sub in carpe we will win

[balmy wolf]

yes they dont want to win

[mortal abyss]

Jihun is a ball player

[hot onyx]

And a better everything than Rio

[mortal abyss]

Fuck

Carpe in

Ggs

[tawdry hamlet]

did they really

sadge

[hot onyx]

In for EQO or Rascal?

[mortal abyss]

It’s eqo carpe

[hot onyx]

Oh thank god

Luigi can rest easy

[balmy wolf]

gg

fusion in knockouts

[little tusk]

oh carpe is back

carpe DIE-... oh.....

[mortal abyss]

Nah don’t call that yet

1 map loss and it’s over

[little tusk]

watch them drop a map to valiant

[mortal abyss]

Lmao

[grizzled badger]

Charge9

[little tusk]

oof this audio

the sound is in the future

[mortal abyss]

Lmao how do we win that

https://live.bilibili.com/76

Use billibi

[tawdry hamlet]

LOL

charge choke

[little tusk]

I dont wanna hear chinese comms

[mortal abyss]

The chinese casters r so hype though

[balmy wolf]

thats why you want uber for big matches

[willow tartan]

actually clucth yo

[little tusk]

lmao couldn't kill carpe there

ok nvm

[tawdry hamlet]

this damn rookie be ruining the fusion

csw pls

eqo is also fucking them up too

fun to watch

lol

eileen

[little tusk]

k

[mortal abyss]

How did alarm not die

Lmaoo

[little tusk]

choke

[tawdry hamlet]

yay time for a draw

[balmy wolf]

bap vs genji

the dps wins

th ninja loses

[little tusk]

rolled

alarm has window xD

[willow tartan]

actually spawn camped

[little tusk]

carpepls

[tawdry hamlet]

this dude

choi

him and shy are going to battle it out so hard for rookie of the year

[mortal abyss]

The draw

[willow tartan]

get carpe outa here

[balmy wolf]

choi has no chance for roty

[plush grail]

Tf u mean Choi has been here for years

[mortal abyss]

Pls sub carpe out

[balmy wolf]

pls stop talking denthead

[willow tartan]

Crowd advantage

[hollow bough]

i think echo should have been banned

[balmy wolf]

and why that?

[hollow bough]

it's kind of boring watching dva bomb after dva bomb

ive seen an echo played in every map ive tuned into for both sides

[balmy wolf]

just like tracer

[pale grail]

i get flashbacks of the ult cycle from goats with these dva dupes

[mortal abyss]

Lmaoo

[hollow bough]

thats what im sayin

and yeah tracer too, i think tracer ban was good n all

but damn. i would have chose to ban echo over tracer

[balmy wolf]

i wouldnt

pelican best echo

[pale grail]

I feel like echo is gong to get nerfed soon, either the duped ult generation or maybe the cooldowns out of dupe or something.

[balmy wolf]

atl shit

[pale grail]

I don't see a meta where echo isn't chosen at top level play ever.

[hollow bough]

echo is just too powerful

[pale grail]

kit too big

[hollow bough]

what would you even remove?

maybe the focus beam

[pale grail]

yeah maybe just cut focus beam range by a good ammount.

make it really risky to use, right now at top level it is just abused.

[plush grail]

god this is criminal

only 25k viewers

i really hope the korean and chinese streams have way more

[hollow bough]

most likely

its 3 am here lol

[tawdry hamlet]

bilibili has like over 200k

[pale grail]

AVRL said in his stream the BB streams list over 2 million at times, those numbers are... suspect at best.

and 3AM is a tough sell for NA viewers.

[plush grail]

main i really hope we get a paris or london homestand next year

or just a meetup for paris

[hollow bough]

if i wasnt on break for college i wouldn't be watching

[pale grail]

I went to a handful of games in season 2. the live experience was wild!

[hollow bough]

would love to go to an event like that

[tawdry hamlet]

oof

loll

kariv dead

[pale grail]

I feel like choi is the thing holding this team from the bottom teir.

[glacial wadi]

What an enormous oof with ana dying there

[mortal abyss]

That carpe kill was massive

It meant no nano blade

Jesus

Cmon fusion

[plush grail]

which teams are at the homestand

[mortal abyss]

We can make knockouts

[tawdry hamlet]

choi and eileen are more than adequate as a dps line, it isn't their fault loll

[mortal abyss]

I believe

[plush grail]

it looks like fusion isn't there

[mortal abyss]

All the Chinese teams

[plush grail]

but the charge is?

[balmy wolf]

all chinese teams

[plush grail]

ahh so only spark, charge and shanghai

[slow lodge]

EQO TO SAVE THE JUNE JOUST

[mortal abyss]

Shanghai chengdu Guangzhou hangzhou and valiant

Valiant are there

[plush grail]

oh ye lmao valiant and chengdu

[mortal abyss]

It’s just a logistics thing because they are based in China

So it’s way easier for them

[glacial wadi]

Whats the map score

nvm I see it now

[mortal abyss]

2-0 fusion

But they drew on hanumura

Which is why it’s map 4

[glacial wadi]

remove 2cp already lmao

[mortal abyss]

Fr

[glacial wadi]

tbh I enjoy a game going to a draw if im watching my favourite teams

more games to watch 👀

[pale grail]

2cp is ok for OWL level I feel. Playing it feels bad.

[mortal abyss]

True true

Owl pros also dislike 2cp

[glacial wadi]

Have you seen how many draws happen on anubis lol

[pale grail]

no doubt.

but there are a lot of maps with almost-always situations.

like think about numbani pt b.

[glacial wadi]

Yeah but numbani doesnt ever lead to a draw on part b

[pale grail]

or how hard it is to finish some push maps.

I guess I mean that something that happens often doesn't mean it is bad, for me.

[glacial wadi]

Thing is its just as hard for both teams to make that final push, but one team ends up managing better and in 2cp that ability to differentiate between the teams on these margins is completely removed

I love a close game, but I want a winner and a loser, a draw just feels bad for both teams

[tawdry hamlet]

junkertown lets gooo

[pale grail]

fair. I guess if the bar is so high, then both teams won't clear it very often.

[tawdry hamlet]

[hollow bough]

i dislike watching 30 minute 2cp maps

just for a draw

[pale grail]

for real, I missed thi map!

[upper niche]

holy crap I can't begin to explain the degree to which I can't watch this match with audio/commentary on :/

[mortal abyss]

Don’t play hanzo carpe

Please

[pale grail]

not a fan of these casters?

[hollow bough]

lol

[mortal abyss]

https://live.bilibili.com/76

[upper niche]

I can tolerate Jaws, but holy crap Vikki's accent/voice is grating.

[hollow bough]

the casters are a little annoying but its bearable

[glacial wadi]

yeah maps that draw are always extremely long, and mentally exhausting for players.
During may melee shanghai dragons had a draw nearly every match and played 2 matches back to back

[tawdry hamlet]

eileen widow vs carpe widow

[pale grail]

I know it isn't zero-sum, but I feel like the league missed out on not bringing up lemonkiwi.

[tawdry hamlet]

loll

[hollow bough]

2cp should definitely be removed

[pale grail]

overall I agree, but I don't HATE it as much as many.

[hollow bough]

taxing for players and not fun to watch in general

not even gettin started for whats not fun to watch tho im tired of this echo meta

i liked it better when mei was played

and that's saying something

[glacial wadi]

Another massive issue not brought up yet is that 2cp is very bad game design for a game with such powerful ultimates that spike a teams strength in the way it does. All the gameplay and strategy for capturing a point and cycling ult economy basically goes out the window if youre capturing point b on a 2cp map

[glacial wadi]

I personally enjoy watching echo tbh, makes the teamfights very chaotic

[hollow bough]

i liked echo but its been nearly two seasons of it

[pale grail]

Preface: I loved the goats meta, I thought it was super strategic and much more a "thinking" meta than a "pop-off" meta. That being said I find the echo meta too chaotic.

[balmy wolf]

Carpe diff

my man!

[glacial wadi]

That was bizarre from eileen

[pale grail]

that deadeye. XD

[glacial wadi]

lmaoo genji

oof, no overtime

[pale grail]

crong walks away.

[balmy wolf]

Carpe diff

[hollow bough]

lets see carpe switch to hanzo B)

[balmy wolf]

[pale grail]

these genji picks are confusing.

[glacial wadi]

Is the genji picked for the widow?

[pale grail]

they shouldn't work... right?

[balmy wolf]

lol

[glacial wadi]

I didnt see any other games today but the last game sparkle played he popped off pretty hard on junkertown on genji

I think the genji pick is purely because of the absence of tracer sombra

[pale grail]

there was a handful of NA genji earlier today.

this whole season seems so much more chaotic than other seasons or metas. just really random and unpredictable.

[glacial wadi]

Cant believe no one died to that dva bomb tbh

but it forced everyone to be clumped against the nano blade lmao

this is looking dicey for gz

if nano blade doesnt work here i think its actually over

ROFL

[pale grail]

sudden crowd noise? lol

[glacial wadi]

yeah what the xd

[pale grail]

ngl i missed that

[glacial wadi]

oh my days

gg

sad

[hot onyx]

WHAT DID I TELL Y’ALL?

[tawdry hamlet]

lets go

[glacial wadi]

so weird to see crowd

[tawdry hamlet]

I changed my pickems with 2:48 left until they locked when I saw eqo

[hollow bough]

agreed

[tawdry hamlet]

lets fucking gooo

[pale grail]

had fusion in pockems, but choi on my fantasy. overall happy.

[sullen berry]

@formal glacier ohh yeah, now there's two more games lets goooo

[formal glacier]

Im streaming it but not sure if its bad quality

[sullen berry]

whose ready for another 3-0verwatch?

your net is holding up better than mine

[hot onyx]

Fusion doubters

[sullen berry]

I can barely join vc today

[hollow bough]

hopefully seoul is gonna pull through here

[pale grail]

oh snap vicki calls it a ban--- 1K fine.

[mortal abyss]

Lesgo

Eqo too strong

[tawdry hamlet]

eqo fucked

on echo

[formal glacier]

Fr

Carpe popping too like always

[mortal abyss]

Alarm and tobi were silent carried imo

They managed to stay alive on 1hp so many times

[pale grail]

whats the thinking on SHD/CDH? I got 3-2 dynasty

[hot onyx]

3-0 Hunters

If Seoul continue on hog

[hollow bough]

3-2 dynasty

seoul is gonna throw at least one match

always do

but i love profit too much

[hot onyx]

Leave diff

[ivory mason]

Hunters 3-0

[mortal abyss]

Hunters win

Because that makes it better for philly

[ivory mason]

also is it too much to ask to get the crowd noise with english commentry?

[mortal abyss]

Yes apparently

[pale grail]

they had it for the deflect kill, but that was it.

maybe the crowd is just quiet.

[hot onyx]

I did the maths

As long as Fusion get another 3-0 against the Valiant they’re guaranteed to be in

[ivory mason]

Nah i went to the Chinese stream and the crowd was loud

Not loud loud but loud enough that we should hear them

[pale grail]

ah. I wonder how they piped in the just that one moment.

[ivory mason]

Maybe they trying to work on it

So we can get crowd atleast tomorrow

[pale grail]

the APAC production is like T2 levels, tbh. really not up to the standards NA is putting up.

[hollow bough]

its probably not 100% live but there's enough of a delay so production can do that for special moments

[ivory mason]

Homestands are a pretty cool thing

[hollow bough]

30 sec delay ish

i really want to go to a pro league match

[ivory mason]

Wonder if we had a whole season of this without any corona

[pale grail]

the energy with the live crowd is so much better.

[ivory mason]

I plan on going to Shanghai homestand IF they do one

[plush grail]

god i saw EQO was playing and just lost 2 liters of blood

[mortal abyss]

Lmao

He played really well

Potm

[plush grail]

@tawdry hamlet

how u feelin about this my man

[pale grail]

XD

need a 1v1 to get the real info

[tawdry hamlet]

man that was like 6 months ago

[tawdry hamlet]

almost 6 months to the day

[plush grail]

ur all fucking clowns

ACTUAL 🤡

underrating the best fdps

for MONTHS

[pale grail]

leave looks like he was not expecting this picture.

HUH?!?!

snap

[sullen berry]

wait, you guys can counter wrecking ball?

[pale grail]

XD

first 6v6 on stage since.... when? like 1.5 years?

1.25 years?

[weak bolt]

Since about February/March last year

[sullen berry]

this crowd for the hunters, since Seoul is playing from home

[pale grail]

wait, no seoul on stage?

[sullen berry]

nah, only the chinese teams are able to travel

[mortal abyss]

No

[pale grail]

😦

[tawdry hamlet]

ameng and kaneki

hmm

[sullen berry]

so if you want a TRUE homestand match, stick around after this

[weak bolt]

Seoul would have to do 2 week quarantine if they went

[pale grail]

well, i guess the stomping later tonight will be the first 6v6

[sullen berry]

the soft booing of seoul

[mortal abyss]

The crowd must hate seoul

Lol

[plush grail]

its shanghai vs spark after this right?

[sullen berry]

wow you really sleepy huh

it's spark vs valiant

the sleeper showmatch

[weak bolt]

Kind of a bummer for Seoul, Chinese teams getting the hype of crowd while they're stuck at facility

[sullen berry]

lmao love this intro

[pale grail]

Sinatraa name on screen. 1K fine.

hunters coach said they choose ameng/6a6a by coin flip. claimed to be real.

[wintry kraken]

it is hilarious to talk about "chinese" and "us" and "european" teams, when 2/3 of players are korean 😄

[weak bolt]

I'm curious, do HZC field all their chinese players to amp up the crowd, or do they stick to the korean players

[hollow bough]

korea is getting ready to get rid of mask mandates entirely

[weak bolt]

Getting rid of masks in Korea is fine, but the players would be returning from another country which = mandatory quarantine

[pale grail]

yeah but it is Korea, so everyone will still wear one.

tbh I might have changed my pickems if I realized CDH were playing with live fans... I feel like it makes a big diff.

[weak bolt]

This match comes down to whether Gesture's hog is a carry or a feed

[hot onyx]

Made 0 diff for Charge

[pale grail]

Yeah but charge game was pre-determined. this one is going to be close I feel

something like crowd hype could swing it.

[hot onyx]

3-0

[ivory mason]

Man this match is taking too long to get started

[spiral kiln]

guys i watched a hour andd a half of owl but didnt get points why?^

[weak bolt]

Do you have the "Connected" icon under the player?

[hot onyx]

Does the little diamond icon say “connected”

[spiral kiln]

ye yesterday i got 15 pooints

[little tusk]

this one chick gives no fucks

[weak bolt]

Points aren't instant sometimes too, if you got them yesterday you'll get them today

[hot onyx]

Then it’ll probably take a while for them to register

[spiral kiln]

ah ok

tysm guys!

have a nice day

cya

[hot onyx]

Np

You too

[weak bolt]

I just need an awesome June Joust skin now for my points, nearing 700 points lol

[sullen berry]

mercy skin for jousting 😳

how about a unique JJ Pharah?

[weak bolt]

I'd like to see a medieval Orisa with a lance style weapon

[pale grail]

hear me out:

lucio skin,

with new game mode---

you wall ride towards an opponent

and boop to joust.

[weak bolt]

Someone made a workshop mode where you play a rein riding an orisa and you have to whack people

[pale grail]

XD

I'll take it.

pausechamp

[weak bolt]

Ameng on Orisa just feels like such a letdown

He's good at it, but want him on ball 😄

[sullen berry]

chinese stream having a cheez-it grooves moment

[mortal abyss]

LMAO WHAT WAS THAT

they just cut to the valiant starting roter lmaooo

[sullen berry]

leaking Valiant starting roster

probably selected the wrong scene transition

that dva stagger

rip elsa

[pale grail]

you watching the BB stream? you are like 30 seconds ahead of me.

[sullen berry]

that's tradition with watching on bilibili

youtube's buffer is massive you can fast forward the live stream

and you STILL won't catch up with BB because they're closer to the hosting servers

[plush grail]

why is the caster

saying among

instead of ameng

[pale grail]

casuse viki.

[forest raven]

Amongus

[formal glacier]

Ok im watching now

I was away

[pale grail]

welcome!

[formal glacier]

:)

[ivory mason]

I refuse to predict dynasty games ever again

[pale grail]

3-2 dynasty

I already told you!

xD

[ivory mason]

They make me pull my hair sometimes, sometimes they will force gesture hog and marvel on off tank

And sometimes they will play NORMAL comps

Sighh

Atleast shanghai is already qualified

[pale grail]

I would hope they viewed tape on the hog play and said "never again"

[ivory mason]

You expect too much from dynasty

They win today and go on hog again tomorrow

[pale grail]

XD for real.

[sullen berry]

rip

Chengdu 3-1 unlikely

[pale grail]

Anyone else feel like the IBM power rankings are just a recency bias in action? Did well last game? NUMBER 1 SPOT FOR YOU.

[sullen berry]

IBM is a multiyear partnership, so instead of giving you hot takes it has to be conservative enough based on the data it receives

aka, you're not that far off if you base your own weekly power rankings on recent match performance

[formal glacier]

Is there a reason they put dps on the left side? I dont watch much owl

Like normally theyre in the center

[pale grail]

I fell like it is not conservative enough, actually. Like it just jumps on hype trains to decide who is hot. Maybe not enough data to train yet.

[pale grail]

more cover if you move through dark room. move up main and get destroyed by very good dps

[formal glacier]

No i mean the hero banners

[pale grail]

XD ahhhhhh

[formal glacier]

:D

[weak bolt]

This is pretty disappointing from hunters

[sullen berry]

I guess they wanted to have them standard alongside role lock

[pale grail]

I Think they have always done that since 2-2-2

e

[sullen berry]

like back when you could have 4dps on one team or mix up your players for GOATS

[pale grail]

even in the in-person they had them sit that way on stage

[sullen berry]

the order didn't really matter 2 years ago

[formal glacier]

Ah okay

[sullen berry]

seats used to match up with what you see on screen

a lowkey great aesthetic with any esport

[mortal abyss]

BRO WHAT WAS THAT

LMAOOO

how do hunters lose that

[weak bolt]

2cp

[formal glacier]

Holt shit

2cp

[sullen berry]

the dps diff

[formal glacier]

AAAAAA

[weak bolt]

Prime 2cp

[sullen berry]

but they still didn't get it

awesome stuff

crowd tried to carry that overtime

[barren quest]

2cp very good gamemode

[plush grail]

lmaooo jaws holy shit

''the win condition for seoul is they cap point a and point b''

actual big brain cast 🧠

[pale grail]

great madden-ism right there.

[sullen berry]

NA casters for asia games 😄

[pale grail]

"the key to winning is having more points at the end of the game"

[formal glacier]

Aaa

Haha

[sullen berry]

They can't win if they don't make it out of spawn!!

I also decided to throw up a spoiler-grade bilibili stream

it's already 1:30

[pale grail]

I'm at 2:30.

[sullen berry]

bb diff

[formal glacier]

Lel

Nishaa

[pale grail]

I like how even the crowd noise on the NA stream is slightly ahead of the video--- people start cheering then a battle mercy happens.

[sullen berry]

it's no good lol

surely they need to know now how they can better sync up the video and the stage

[formal glacier]

Wow

[ivory mason]

Amazing round

[sullen berry]

2-0

[pale grail]

profit diff.

[formal glacier]

Are they gonna ban 2cp in ow2

[pale grail]

yes

[weak bolt]

2cp is removed in OW2 yes

[pale grail]

already announced

[ivory mason]

They will remove it yes

[formal glacier]

Thank god :)

[ivory mason]

Its gonna be replaced with push

[sullen berry]

I love casual 2CP

[pale grail]

the new push mode looks amazing.

[sullen berry]

competitive is a draw frenzy

[ivory mason]

Tbh i am gonna miss hanamura

[sullen berry]

while I can accept draws on hybrid, just not for paris and horizon

[ivory mason]

One of my fav maps specially the winter edition one

[pale grail]

hey remember lunar colony? xD

[ivory mason]

I still see that in qp

That map had so much potential

[weak bolt]

Do we know why CDH are playing Kaneki all of a sudden?

[hot onyx]

Script

[ivory mason]

Dont know tbh

[sullen berry]

tracer booty

[ivory mason]

I can see why ameng is gettting game time

Whoever is cosplaying mei in that thing is so cute

[weak bolt]

Jimmy and Jinmu have both been pretty crazy this year already, but why play those when you can play Kaneki on his debut lol

[formal glacier]

The mercy one was good

Tiddies👀

[sullen berry]

look, it's me toyou

[weak bolt]

HZC paying off CDH/GZC to lose so they can be the only Chinese team winning at their homestand

[sullen berry]

everyone knows OWL this season is heavily scripted

valiant will get their upset win soon™️

[formal glacier]

Wdym

[sullen berry]

it's a running meme

that every match is scripted

and that someone behind the scene controls who wins/loses

[weak bolt]

Imagine if LAV get their only win by beating HZC at their own homestand

[sullen berry]

why not at the Guangzhou homestand for the Countdown cup

[formal glacier]

Wow really?

o-o

[sullen berry]

there's two more planned chinese homestands

[weak bolt]

funny thing is GZC actually look liek they could lose to LAV

[sullen berry]

Hangzhou Spark will be hosting an exclusive homestand during the June Joust
Shanghai Dragons to host teams in China for the Summer Showdown (July)
Guangzhou Charge will host the final monthly tournament, the Countdown Cup (Aug)

Also to clarify: Teams participating will be limited to Chengdu Hunters, Charge, Spark, Los Angeles Valiant, and the Dragons.

the problem with beliveing guangzhou can is we forget highbee is an off tank

playing main support for them LOL

[noble nexus]

still isn't the worst player on that team

silver3 is literal booty cheeks

[sullen berry]

yeah, molanran can feed one game

[mortal abyss]

LEAVE THAT WAS SO CLEAN

[sullen berry]

then he becomes the key to a map 4 supremacy

[noble nexus]

molanran is a tracer otp one game and a serviceable echo the next

kinda weird

[weak bolt]

How far behind is the OWL YT stream lol, I see you saying leave was so clean, and it's after he wasted nano trying to range down a super charger

[mortal abyss]

very far behind

[sullen berry]

there's three levels of being ahead with the OWL stream

1. Virgin youtube stream - not speeding up
2. average youtube catchup - going to 2x and then slowing it back to 1x before it buffers
3. Chad Bilibili/Chinese only stream - all caught up by 60+ seconds

timer is now 3:15

[weak bolt]

Round just started on YT stream lol

[sullen berry]

and guess what just happened for Seoul just now?

[mortal abyss]

lol

[sullen berry]

||they cap||

[mortal abyss]

Your name, you going to the homestand?

[sullen berry]

I was initially planning to

[formal glacier]

Oh where u from obi?

[sullen berry]

I'm from new zealand

[formal glacier]

Ahh

[sullen berry]

but the travel bubble only lets me go to Australia from here

[plush grail]

new zealand isn't real???

[sullen berry]

it's real to me

[mortal abyss]

thats unlucky 😦

[formal glacier]

Oh :( sadge

[plush grail]

did they film the lotr films in your backyard kenobi?

[sullen berry]

yeah, how did you know

my backyard is pretty huge

but it doesn't even show on the world map

[plush grail]

how does it feeling knowing the only nz player is never getting playtime

[formal glacier]

Afk

[mortal abyss]

isnt colourhex nz aswell?

[sullen berry]

i mean he's still there for something

[mortal abyss]

and punk

[formal glacier]

Sad part about this is that i get tokens on the wrong account

[sullen berry]

Christchurch, New Zealand

[formal glacier]

Oh well

[sullen berry]

Punk is Australian

🐨

[plush grail]

why do u have his address

[mortal abyss]

oh

[sullen berry]

I visit his mother

😉

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/pov-ur-mom-your-mom-youve-been-ur-mom-youve-been-your-momd-gif-18612383

[tropic herald]

Why is Kaneki on reaper

[sullen berry]

Kaneki Hanzo c'mon

[true hound]

gesture pls

[noble nexus]

why did profit just hold w against ashe mercy whilst his blade was ending

[sullen berry]

MMonk vs creative holy shiet

[weak bolt]

Mmonks Ana is nasty

[noble nexus]

that was actually gigabrain tbh

[sullen berry]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tropic herald]

Something worth noting, is Seoul were to win this, they knock a lot of teams out

Specifically the map

[sullen berry]

gesture is playing for the homestand W

the rest of his team is picking up what he drops

|| holy chengdu defense is pretty pogchamp ||

[mortal abyss]

bob mvp

[pale grail]

c'mon 3-2!

I need me some extra pickem points here.

I am in such last.

[ivory mason]

L

LOL*

I didn't even do my pickems

I forgot

I still want hunters to reverse sweep this

[tropic herald]

I did pickems but this day feels like a fever dream idk who I predded

Shit I predded Guangzhou and Chengdu

[plush grail]

did u legit think

charge would beat fusion

???

[next mesa]

I mean

fusion looked bad and charge beat nyxl

not like an unreasonable pick

I put 3-2 dynasty

but realistically 3-1 dynasty or 3-2 chengdu

[little tusk]

yeh but what did u put paris boston

[next mesa]

I put 3-0 boston 🗿

[plush grail]

im so smart v

[next mesa]

leave is honestly carrying

[barren quest]

Gaga has been doing well too

[next mesa]

jimmys pick on creative was huge

profit cree doe

sexy

[tawdry hamlet]

Profit cree on that 8.25 sense

Wild

[next mesa]

hog wtff

[pale grail]

throw

[sullen berry]

Ga9a orisa man

[next mesa]

holy fuck

[pale grail]

spawn camp feels bad.

[next mesa]

this big dick energy

I just love it

why did gesture ult

tf is gesture doing

holy fuck

duuude

profit killed 3 already

[slow lodge]

[raw ermine]

I come onto the stream for the first time. I guess 3 to 1 for seoul

Nearly immediately they lose their 2nd map lol

[next mesa]

Gesture fucking threw

blew the supercharger

and then fed his ass off

on ball

bro

torb never works

[humble yarrow]

Yes

[next mesa]

hugeeeeeee

gesture has supercharger

should be won

if he doesnt do any thing FUCKING STUPID

nevermind too high hopes

[barren quest]

One more round for Hunters to win

[humble yarrow]

Gesture keeps getting out of place

How did Seoul hold that

[next mesa]

profit

toyou

lets goo

im really scared of leave doe

hes just gonna fuck

creative on ana now

[humble yarrow]

Toyota better than marve1?

[next mesa]

LETS GOO

yes

dva zarya way better

sig is debatable

[umbral sapphire]

aye bruh

[next mesa]

COME ON

PROFIT

[barren quest]

Well then this is a Ball favored map

[next mesa]

COMPLETE THE PROPHECY

fuck

LEGS??

[humble yarrow]

Soldier diff

[next mesa]

nah creative slept him

come onnnnnnn

I B ELIEVEEEE

[humble yarrow]

That's what happens when I look away for 3 seconde

Definitely soldier diff

[next mesa]

holy FUCK

well

[umbral sapphire]

lETS GOOO

[next mesa]

COME ONNNNN

seoul has like almost 4 ults too

[umbral sapphire]

are the hunters in a whole basement?

[next mesa]

the fuck is profit doing

[umbral sapphire]

i cant see anything behind the,

[humble yarrow]

Gg

[plush grail]

they're on a stage

[humble yarrow]

Yes

[next mesa]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[raw ermine]

yikes too close

[umbral sapphire]

imagine

[humble yarrow]

Profit is just soo good

[tropic herald]

Seoul win but with a performance like that they aren’t getting out of Sunday

[humble yarrow]

Isn't pelican like 18

[umbral sapphire]

what has Jimmy done this series

any big plays?

[tropic herald]

Yes

[plush grail]

empathy ur team lost

[raw ermine]

yo what was the charge philly score?

[tropic herald]

Jimmy only played the last two maps

[plush grail]

3-0

[humble yarrow]

3-0

[raw ermine]

for who

[humble yarrow]

Philly

[plush grail]

for philly ofc

lmao

[raw ermine]

ok good

I went 3-2 philly

[plush grail]

do u really think charge could 3-0 philly

[raw ermine]

well charge had been doing better

[tropic herald]

Luigi this is why I’m a Shanghai and Florida fan, disappointment only hits in one region at a time o7

[plush grail]

being a paris fan is fun rn

[humble yarrow]

I'm a dallas fan

[plush grail]

no more disappointment

only fun

[tropic herald]

If Paris gets out of Sunday I’m going to be surprised

[plush grail]

they have a chance

[umbral sapphire]

lets go babyyyy

what does it mean to get out of sunday

[humble yarrow]

I kinda thought profit was gonna get i5

[tropic herald]

Knockout Sunday

Decides who plays in cross region

[balmy wolf]

damn that last map was disappointing

[plush grail]

tbh i want them to win it

just to show EU is good

[tropic herald]

[plush grail]

even tho EU already has tons of top tier players

stfu empathy

[tropic herald]

I’m sure eu could make 1 good team but I doubt they’ll ever be together

[next mesa]

best EU team is Funi right now

lmaoooo

[weak bolt]

Yeh EU's top players are too spreadout to win something, there are also some big holes in it, like Main Tank

[plush grail]

logix, naga, shockwave, linkzr, masaa, fdgod, poko, kevster, funnyastro, boombox, benbest, kai

all of paris

and london but they're kinda bad

[humble yarrow]

That's like the same bold prediction everytim4

Especially in apac

[candid radish]

Why was the highlight reels for both teams just them shitting on the dragons?

[next mesa]

The best eu team would be Funi but instead of jkaru u put benbest

and just stick kevster in there

[tropic herald]

shy krystal

[dark hedge]

has valiant even taken a map yet

[balmy wolf]

YES

first game actually

[raw ermine]

once, against chengdu

[noble nexus]

against chengdu

[sullen berry]

smh this game is fucking rigged
no food on stage for molanran

[noble nexus]

which is quite depressing considering how dominant chengdu were at the beginning

[dark hedge]

so are these homestands going to be a thing now

[weak bolt]

1 for Stage 2/3/4 in China

None for US yet

[dark hedge]

also i thought spark had 12 players

[tawdry hamlet]

Lige isn't there I believe

But idk faces

[weak bolt]

Was Godsb there? Rumours have said he's leaving

[balmy wolf]

takoyaki got released

lige was the first to be announced

[tawdry hamlet]

Oh cool

[noble nexus]

when did takoyaki get released and how did I not hear about it?

tf

[weak bolt]

Takoyaki still on roster I think? Not seen any release

[balmy wolf]

china things

[leaden fable]

they’re in arenas?

is this live

[balmy wolf]

yes

[raw ermine]

it was halo leaking

[sullen berry]

this is being played live in Hangzhou

[tawdry hamlet]

Mmmm watching the crowd react to veterans like guxue and architect

I miss homestands

Lmao I want valiant to win something for the lols of hz homestand embarrassment

[weak bolt]

Bit sad for HZS fans that this match will go so quick

[tawdry hamlet]

Could you imagine though, the first homestand in years and they lose to la, the second hand embarrassment would be off the charts

[wintry kraken]

btw encore is hilarious if you think about it - it is 3:30 PM here in EU, game barely started. And encore starts at 6:30 PM, so between the end of the Valiant-Spark game and encore of the Valiant-Spark game there might be maybe an hour, hour and half ?

[weak bolt]

It's a win win for EU, more tokens

[tawdry hamlet]

Another thing, why does silver 3 not move so much as monkey, when I watch fearless or mag they're almost always jumping or moving or swinging their camera around while silver3 just kind of walks around lol

[weak bolt]

It's more amusing that they're doing an Encore for a LAV game for their fans... all 2 of them

[balmy wolf]

im a fan

molanran simp

[tawdry hamlet]

I'm a fan of most underdogs, but this one I cannot support

[wintry kraken]

also "Hangzhou Future Sci-Tech City Academic Exchange Center"... they don't play around in china 😄

[tawdry hamlet]

Architect looking for blossom and then winning the fight before he got to use it

Poggers

[raw ermine]

yeah lol

[tawdry hamlet]

I'm ngl achilios and Avrl aren't a bad duo

[next mesa]

avrl is so nice

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah he's a cool dude

Reminds me of yeh from mayhem in a way

[tribal flint]

I'm just glad the moira 2 coal per team per fight meta from yesterday seems to be broken

Because honestly that wasn't super entertaining to watch, I love the ana picks

[dark hedge]

lmfao

c9

[raw ermine]

oh no

lol

[worn hornet]

how many did they have up there? 4? 5?

[dark hedge]

it was like a 5v4 i think

[dark hedge]

this is so sad to watch

[rare parcel]

Every Valiant match is just the chat bullying Silver3 KEKW

[barren quest]

LAV not getting an actual main support so they just create Kuki 2.0 instead

[dark hedge]

spark isnt even playing that good

and theyre still destroying them

ok yea crystals actually just given up

[worn hornet]

I'm realizing Brig is pretty much a completely different role at high levels than in my MM games

[barren quest]

Has LAV's other MT played at all

[worn hornet]

the people I tend to play with don't group up enough for good inspire healing

[dark hedge]

they have another mt?

[ivory mason]

If they replace silver3

[barren quest]

NvM

[dark hedge]

is he that bad

[noble nexus]

pretty sure he's a coach isn't he?

[ivory mason]

This team will actually improve so much

[dark hedge]

that they have silver3 over him

[ivory mason]

Silver3 ball is suppose to be his comfort pick and god he looks awful on it

[barren quest]

Sub in NvM

[noble nexus]

silver3 is cheeks on every MT

they could fr have put silver3 on MS and put highbee on tank and ran double OT comps all season and look better

silver3 is literal dogshit

[weak bolt]

When rumour has it you're paying your members not even league minimum, I suspect team didnt have much choice on players lol

[dark hedge]

what even fucking happened to lav lmfao

[worn hornet]

can the league penalize them if they're paying below the minimum?

[weak bolt]

Possibly, but what they're doing is technically legal I think, just a scummy thing

[candid radish]

Wait what are the LAV doing/done?

I've heard bits but not a lot

[sullen berry]

omegalul

[raw ermine]

the owners, Immortals gaming club, supposedly wanna leave esports, so they are putting minimal effort into their OW team

[sullen berry]

I'm predicting hollywood score to be 2-1

[raw ermine]

they are trying to be the cheapest possible

[sullen berry]

this sounds like IGC sabotaging the chances of having LGE its Chinese owner taking everything they had built up

just because they can

[weak bolt]

There was some rumours the way they're paying players equate to roughly $1000 a month rather than the $4000 or so minimum

[noble nexus]

it's wild that they're getting away with only paying the 1k if its true

[weak bolt]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/np61wh/new_rumours_about_los_angeles_valiant/

[worn hornet]

is it a $4k minus 3k for room & board sort of fuckery?

[weak bolt]

It's down to Chinese employment laws apparantly

[tribal flint]

Did they just drop a hunters spray or am I crazy

[rare parcel]

They are asking for help from the Hunters Gods

[raw ermine]

gg (not really)

[leaden fable]

i just tuned in but the monkey was trash for la

[weak bolt]

Even the HZS fans looked bored after that

[leaden fable]

i’m gm. pretty sure most of you are plat or lower lol

[distant cove]

hows the weather up there

[noble nexus]

the ego

[leaden fable]

look at the youtube chat

silly gooses

[noble nexus]

yt be on their gremlin shit

[hollow bough]

6 dollars an hour

jesus

alright, who is up for grabs for replacing valiant's team?

[candid radish]

Shame that spitfire and valorent won't play each other

Would be a nice first win for the spitfire

[stuck radish]

place your bets now

i think vancouver will win 3-0

[barren quest]

Can't wait for Super on DPS

[stuck radish]

viol2t rein

[worn hornet]

Hanzo or Genji?

[weak bolt]

Dalton going to come in and dominate glister and carry Titans to a win

[tribal flint]

@stuck radish hero bans?

[wintry kraken]

so i overestimated the Valiant, there is 2 hour gap till the encore. And then 1.5 hour between end of encore and start of boston game 😄

[hasty wing]

are irl matches returning to owl? on the schedule it has the option to buy tickets for some upcoming matches

[raw ermine]

only in china so far

[tribal canopy]

super taiyo dps lineup

[hasty wing]

ah ty

will the irl matches still be live on yt?

[raw ermine]

yeah

they just did one

[hasty wing]

oh sweet

[raw ermine]

less than an hour ago

they were live in hangzhou

[hasty wing]

oo i gotta go watch and catch up

i miss the irl matches so much

[sullen berry]

everyone probably respects Chinese Danny's predictions

[weak bolt]

All 3 predicting GZC was surprising lol

[raw ermine]

they all went charge LOL

[sullen berry]

yeah in hindsight they really should have paid attention to western social media

one of the coaches already gave the teams enough warning if they paid attention

https://twitter.com/rostonyoo/status/1396505272844120064?s=20

Roston Yoo (@rostonyoo)

EQO and I just arrived to Korea this week and still have to complete the mandated government quarantine hotel. He is not with the Fusion YET, but he will be very soon :) https://t.co/G2157QUz6A

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Twitter · May 23, 2021, 4:36 PM

would have spent a day or two with the team to get ready for this match

so they might have known this, and thought "oh well EQO might be rusty playing in asia so I'll go with the safer bet"

[vagrant cargo]

Titan 4-0

[noble nexus]

Titans 5-0

[raw ermine]

titans win JJ

[vagrant cargo]

Based

[devout path]

Bring back 2019

[vagrant cargo]

No

I hated the runaway titans

[dark hedge]

yea boston was less trash then

[devout path]

True

Stage 1 Boston was good

Stage 2 Boston was good too

We don’t talk about stage 3 and 4

[vagrant cargo]

Boston rlly lost to a one scrimm vestola and router Internet dridro

Damn

[devout path]

I’m so upset

How did we lose

[vagrant cargo]

Onigod gap

Also punk did air idk wjy he was subbed in for rialto

[devout path]

It’s punk fault

[vagrant cargo]

Agreed

Fuck australia

[devout path]

Keep gbs in >:(

[vagrant cargo]

Fuck punk

Smh

[devout path]

True

[vagrant cargo]

Eitherway i can see glads go 0-2

And im scared now:(

[devout path]

Boston come back stronger

Beat glads and make it to knockouts

[vagrant cargo]

Nonono

Kevster gap

I believe

[devout path]

Gbs gap

I believe

[vagrant cargo]

Birdring gap

[devout path]

Coaching gap

You can’t beat coaching gap

[dark hedge]

why is colorhex still in boston

[devout path]

Cuz

Contract hasn’t expired

Idk

[barren quest]

He decided to stay along with Fusions

[dark hedge]

o right fusions was still in boston

[vagrant cargo]

I believe in tydolla

He gapped moon

He can do it again

[devout path]

Well neither is gonna be signed to a different team

[sullen berry]

Uprising Tshirt model on their storefront

[barren quest]

No idea how good they are considering that they haven't played yet but new coaching will make a difference

[devout path]

Dpei omegalul

[vagrant cargo]

Dpei isnt real

[dark hedge]

wait boston should sign aspire

[vagrant cargo]

Why

Im37 >

[devout path]

Aspire has clean aim

[dark hedge]

im37 isnt very good from what ive seen

[devout path]

Im37 is ok

[vagrant cargo]

Im37 had one bad game

[devout path]

Not bad

[vagrant cargo]

He had pretty good performances so far

[next mesa]

im37 got diffed by onigod

but yeah

[vagrant cargo]

Also aspire kinda did air vs houston

[devout path]

Im37 can pop off

[next mesa]

wasnt bad

[weak bolt]

Signing Aspire would mean they move away from all Korean roster again

[next mesa]

like

[vagrant cargo]

Onigod is cracked

[next mesa]

other games

[vagrant cargo]

Has always been

[devout path]

Onigod kinda popped off

[next mesa]

yes omg on rialto

its like

[vagrant cargo]

Mans crazy underrated

[next mesa]

"decay did the same so can I"

[barren quest]

What team really needs a better hitscan

[devout path]

Shock

[next mesa]

i will proveeeeeee

[vagrant cargo]

Charge