esports-discussion

[hot onyx]

After busting out Houston they lost to Atlanta 3-1 or 3-0

[tawdry hamlet]

Really just wanna see him play ashe in owl, he never gets to and it's like his best hero unironically

[hot onyx]

Could see it if Titans don’t drop another player and replace him with a different guy who is better than them in every shape and form

Boston due to play them in the Summer Showdown and Countdown Cup

So maybe Chex Punk and Fusions

[tawdry hamlet]

The dynamic trio

[hot onyx]

Toilet Bowl Dream Team

Could see it if rush becomes meta again

[tawdry hamlet]

Last year thinking about how they had those three, a contenders/collegiate champ main support who's really only owl level at lucio, and Jerry and myun

What a roster

Idek if halo was owl level at lucio but he was slaying ass with him at collegiate champs in rush meta

[hot onyx]

Yeah but that’s just western players being rush one tricks

[tawdry hamlet]

Loll western players just can't flex I swear idk why

Shax, danteh off echo tracer, Agilities off genji,

Fusions off rein lmao

[hot onyx]

Super off rein/genji

[tawdry hamlet]

Who all does kevster play

[hot onyx]

Tracer

Genji

[tawdry hamlet]

Loll

[hot onyx]

Echo?

[tawdry hamlet]

His Mei just kind of exists

That diem video so sad, it's still in my head reading his letter 😭

[hot onyx]

Unless your name is Ivy Rascal Fleta or Yaki that’s really all mei does

Yeah I know I was a bit of a “Diem Doomer” but I didn’t want the chap to retire

[plush grail]

mans down bad

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder if he felt bad he was starting to slip a little from last year to the point lip was just played over him

[hot onyx]

Dude it takes a lot to be played instead of Lip, he shouldn’t feel bad if that’s the case

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder if I adjust my Pickems or not

Lip is literally just Heesu on steroids

[hot onyx]

I can think of about 3 hitscans in the league rn that could be played over Lip without the fans saying it’s a throw

[tawdry hamlet]

[balmy wolf]

i did

[hot onyx]

Marbel you fool

[tawdry hamlet]

Lip instead of diem when ashe becomes relevant 😭 😭 😭

[balmy wolf]

?

[hot onyx]

Now the results are going to be exactly what your initial pickems were

[balmy wolf]

not a fool just cool

[tawdry hamlet]

Me when I pick any team ever

[hot onyx]

We’ll see if you say that when I take your 40th place spot on the leaderboard

[tawdry hamlet]

I am going to put Boston over Paris and just because Paris is going to 3-2 them or some shit

[balmy wolf]

noooooo

actually was someone on this dc ever on the whole leaderboard?

[hot onyx]

I was 74th on the JJ leaderboard once

[balmy wolf]

huge

[hot onyx]

But then I asked my nan for preds and she convinced me to change my 3-2 Shock to 3-2 Dallas

[balmy wolf]

watch me throw away my lead with the team picks for playoffs

[forest raven]

I am simultaneously ahead and behind of all of you in the pick ems

[hot onyx]

That as well as boldly predicting Seoul losing to Nyxl and then coming back angry af and beating Shanghai dropped me down to around the 400 mark

[balmy wolf]

tbh pickems did me dirty as i couldnt predict the mm playoff matches

[hot onyx]

Tbh I did myself dirty predicting Florida to win it all because I knew nobody else would and give myself a neat little statue at the end

[balmy wolf]

bruh

florida

[hot onyx]

Florida beat Shanghai 4-2 let’s go

[balmy wolf]

kinda deserved

[hot onyx]

[balmy wolf]

what a braindead pick

[plush grail]

stfu atlanta fan

[hot onyx]

But OGE stonks through the roof

[balmy wolf]

i hear a low iq talking

but i only hear bullshit

[hot onyx]

Hey remember when Atlanta beat Paris?

[balmy wolf]

coincidence?

i think not

[balmy wolf]

good times

[forest raven]

A paris fan telling an atlanta fan to stfu is like the six year old telling the five year old to give them their toys because they're older

[balmy wolf]

when the brainlet was quiet

[balmy wolf]

that guy has the brain of an 1 year-old tho

[plush grail]

no im pretty sure i wasnt here when atlanta played paris

i was chilling with a friend

[hot onyx]

Which time?

[balmy wolf]

you were crying

i know that for sure

[hot onyx]

The May Melee defeat or the 2020 playoffs defeat?

[forest raven]

Meanwhile us Shock fans are enjoying fine dining with Element Mystic

[tawdry hamlet]

Being a top team fan is mad boring though

[hot onyx]

Or perhaps a loss in season 2?

[forest raven]

Not for me

[hot onyx]

Better than being a Fusion fan

[tawdry hamlet]

Can't wait to watch my team 3-0 a way worse team for the 15th week in a row of s3 go shock!

S3 shock matches were actually fun though because ans

[forest raven]

Shock also markets its players the best

[tawdry hamlet]

Valiant turned a low tier dva one trick player into epic personality McGravy

[hot onyx]

S3 Shock was fun because Rascal

Seaweed meta

[tawdry hamlet]

Last year valiant were lowkey way better than they had any right to be, packing10 was a beast

[plush grail]

rip titans

[tawdry hamlet]

Kai and shax were the only top tier players on that team and they were managing top 5 in the league relatively consistently

[forest raven]

I'll always appreciate that valiant roster for making the glads collectively mald on twitter

[tawdry hamlet]

Last year's glads were painful 😖😣

[plush grail]

everybody point and laugh at sans

[tawdry hamlet]

Tbh any team that wasn't LAV Atlanta Paris Florida shock or fusion were painful last season

[balmy wolf]

i cant too busy laughing at you

[forest raven]

You forgot Dragons

And Seoul right at the end

[tawdry hamlet]

I meant na but yeah dragons

[little tusk]

paris wins

[tawdry hamlet]

Nyxl was king of disappointment 😭 and Seoul was too inconsistent

The rest of apac just existed sometimes

[hot onyx]

Yeah point and laugh at the pred god when I’m swimming in widowmaker statues

[forest raven]

I cannot believe NYXL still has the same coaching staff

[little tusk]

I cannot believe NYXL actually beat Philly two weeks ago

[tawdry hamlet]

Gengu

Carpe and rascal both are pretty weak on genji and I'm pretty sure new York also did something different with meta

But I can't remember

[hot onyx]

Nyxl realised they needed to pull a 2019 Titans and coach themselves instead of letting dogshit tell them what to do

But then they let IMT out of his cage again for the Charge and Seoul matches

[tawdry hamlet]

It's so weird to be in a meta where monkey gets melted im so used to monkey

Eh nah charge just played better that series imo

I watched custa vod review that series

A lot of fights Friday would pop valk way too early

Which would force his team to commit and then charge could capitalize

[hot onyx]

Don’t you dare smack talk Friday

Best ms in the league you just don’t know it yet

[tawdry hamlet]

I'm so hyped for a meta that charge can excel in, Kariv stonks have tanked and Mandu stonks don't exist so I'm hyped they can maybe have a shot

I hate charge support line why did they do that 😭 😭

[hot onyx]

Why am I the only person who unironically thought Mandu was an upgrade to Chara?

[tawdry hamlet]

Wait, charge are literally just the Apac Atlanta, stacked dps, tanks that aren't that great and meh supports that are passable lmao

[forest raven]

Did you just compare

Hawk

To Crong

[hot onyx]

I’m more disgusted about the comparison of Gator-Rio

[forest raven]

[tawdry hamlet]

Crong off of sigma is bad

[balmy wolf]

lol why

rio is ass

[forest raven]

Gator, the OWL main tank that can't play monkey

[hot onyx]

Gator is a hard inter yeah

But Rio is Rio

Don’t insult Gator like that

[tawdry hamlet]

Rio is an orisa one trick and crong is a sigma one trick, pretty much the same as atlanta tanks but dif heroes

[balmy wolf]

gator gets diffe on monkey bro

but hes not the only one

hes better than daan hadi and all these other inters

[hot onyx]

Imagine having Rio as your main tank and getting rid of Happy and Shu instead

[tawdry hamlet]

Atlanta tanks are able to cover most tanks but they are just so incredibly meh

[forest raven]

Really, the monkey players go Smurf >= Fearless >> Guxue >>> OGE >>>>>>> Everyone else

[balmy wolf]

he doesnt plkay monkey at a top level

[hot onyx]

Taimou would like a word

[forest raven]

Ryujekong

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder why oge didn't work on La he looks a lot better in florida

I mean Shaz biggoose isn't great but still

He looked abysmal in lag s3 vs S4 Florida

[forest raven]

Kuki > Dpei

[hot onyx]

Based

[tawdry hamlet]

Also how TF did fate get his stonks high in Florida

[willow tartan]

who wins the 2021 widowmaker 1v1 tournament now...

[forest raven]

Surefour

[tawdry hamlet]

Happy vs Carpe apac final

[forest raven]

Dude

Surefour won the very first widow 1v1 and then he wasn't invited back for the second one

[tawdry hamlet]

Tragic

[hot onyx]

Letting someone else win

[forest raven]

Very Lane Roberts move

[hot onyx]

So wholesome

[tawdry hamlet]

Carpe probably would go farther in widow tourney if his first match wasn't diem 😭

[willow tartan]

who cares about shock threepeat, i wanted to see diem widowmaker 1v1 threepeat

[hot onyx]

Took Diem to the last round iirc

So was close

[slow lodge]

Didn'g Linkzr win the last one?

[hot onyx]

Linkzr won the NA one

[willow tartan]

it was split regional

[slow lodge]

Ah

[willow tartan]

Eastern had the real competition 😎

[slow lodge]

Who won apac

[hot onyx]

Diem

[tawdry hamlet]

That what was it like ten round series of ans vs diem camping the angle lmao

[willow tartan]

yeah the finals were poggers

[hot onyx]

Prime entertainment

[willow tartan]

remember the winston one

guxue >

[hot onyx]

Fearless Mano and Rio iirc

[willow tartan]

gesture

[hot onyx]

Gesture not Rio

[willow tartan]

wait so was that the reason diem wasnt playing, cuz he was gonna retire soon

[hot onyx]

Sorry my brain was flicking through the half decent apac teams and forgot about Seoul

Probably

Which is a shame because if Diem did play maybe Valiant would’ve taken a map

[tawdry hamlet]

they always do carpe so dirty with the first round diem matchup

when ans has to face baconjack lmaoo

[willow tartan]

wait who was glister playing with last year

my mind blank

[tawdry hamlet]

London

[sullen berry]

British Hurricane

[willow tartan]

no wonder my brain didnt remember

[sullen berry]

[hot onyx]

Old and Bored

[tawdry hamlet]

meanwhile the na brackets were gross upsets

[willow tartan]

2020 london was ass the entire season

[tawdry hamlet]

I had shockwave vs KSP in the finals

tragic

[willow tartan]

ksp shat the bed

[sullen berry]

Dalton be linkzr was spicy

[tawdry hamlet]

Shockwave shit the bed, So0n just showed up to play lmao

[sullen berry]

Oni did too

He just didn’t expect to get that far

[willow tartan]

5-0

[tawdry hamlet]

it wasn't even a ping thing either because both shockwave and linkzr were in Europe at the time

[willow tartan]

maybe this time lip can take up the mantle :)

[tawdry hamlet]

So0n played tracer all season because of xzi then did all this lolll

was funni

[ebon aurora]

predictions for tonight?

[sullen berry]

Shockwave 2021 where he gets to play from EU

[willow tartan]

yes when will philly get their team bro

its already midway through the season and they still dont have their roster

and still better than most teams wtf...

[ebon aurora]

Boston-Paris and Dallas-Florida could both be good matches

is Vestola already with Paris?

[willow tartan]

Yes

[sullen berry]

Let me see, I’m lost as usual for West division games

[willow tartan]

vestola has to pop the fuck off

he's been with the team for like a day at this point

[sullen berry]

And by god is it a big play after seeing dridro slot in so well

Though to be fair Washington was making a lot of mistakes

Probably Boston and Mayhem wins?

3-0verwatch would be real good

[tawdry hamlet]

does vestola have high stonks?

[willow tartan]

im excited for the east matches

[tawdry hamlet]

he looks super meh

[willow tartan]

finally get to see a live match

actually poggers

[ebon aurora]

you think mayhem over Fuel?

[sullen berry]

I think vestola can look great, but how is the question

[sullen berry]

Sure!

I don’t always go for the majority pick, if I did then what’s the point of Pickens?

[ebon aurora]

true

[hot onyx]

I don’t either

[willow tartan]

if philly doesnt qualify again im gonna laugh

[tawdry hamlet]

man ex oblivione just hard sucked randomly in september and october lol that is weird I wonder what they did to their roster then

[hot onyx]

But at the same time if I’m predicting an upset it has to be a reasonable upset

[willow tartan]

what, like boston 6-0?

[hot onyx]

Aw thanks chap means a lot

[tawdry hamlet]

if shanghai get third place in grand finals again I am going to really laugh, they are building up that second place rep just like fusion

[willow tartan]

shanghai's gonna win this year dude bro trust

[hot onyx]

I only trust in London to win

[willow tartan]

2020 didnt happen, hog meta was a fluke

cucked by blizzard

[hot onyx]

They did it in season 1 they’ll do it agajn

[tawdry hamlet]

cucked by only practicing one comp against far worse teams for an entire season and then having to switch it up for once

[willow tartan]

god... speaking of being cucked remember how the fusion performed in the finals

[tawdry hamlet]

the two times dive wasn't meta shanghai lost

summer showdown, and finals

[willow tartan]

whats gonna be meta during finals

[hot onyx]

Hey remember season 1

Funny

[tawdry hamlet]

remember shock at one point had architect

wild how covid made him go from popular guy

to 4am guy sometimes remembered

[willow tartan]

whats wrong with architect

he was good on hz last year

[hot onyx]

wheeze

[tawdry hamlet]

I feel like covid as a whole made the apac teams that weren't at the very top fade into obscurity

probably only saying that because I am NA and nobody gives a shit in my region about apac since it airs at like 3am

[willow tartan]

east > west

[tawdry hamlet]

but lack of homestands made it feel like the regions were two different worlds and the players were on two different plains of existence

[willow tartan]

too many teams to keep track of in west

idk how you guys do it

[hot onyx]

Oh no not an extra 4 teams

[willow tartan]

hey bro

that's like at least

[tawdry hamlet]

it is pretty easy when you realize those extra 4 teams in the west are all dog ass

[willow tartan]

24 more players to remember

[tawdry hamlet]

so you don't have to keep up with them

[hot onyx]

Plus coaches and behind the scenes staff

[tawdry hamlet]

diem leaving has once again reminded me owl is dying a slow death

[willow tartan]

everyone dies

[tawdry hamlet]

thinking about that a lot recently how about half the players that were here when I started watching a lot last june are gone loll

[hot onyx]

Dude don’t spoil ||Avengers Infinity War|| I haven’t watched it yet

[willow tartan]

yeah but we got a lot of new players this szn

[tawdry hamlet]

Babybay was atlanta's starting hitscan when I starting watching a lot loll

[hot onyx]

Babybay Danteh starting dps for Shock

Back when they were good

[balmy wolf]

still good wdym

[hot onyx]

Shock washed

The Dallas win was just a fluke

Viol2t played the only hero he’s good at

Moira

[tawdry hamlet]

I like to just play the guessing game and pick knockouts before last matches

I went with shanghai, hz, shock, fuel, for knockouts since they are only worth like 6 points anyway so here is to hoping I am right lmao

[plush grail]

paris not winning in ur preds?

blocked

[tawdry hamlet]

wish I went with gz lowkey though

since meta favors them

but I went with hz

[hot onyx]

How come I can still see your messages?

[tawdry hamlet]

I have no faith in seoul or philly unfortunately

and chengdu is just chengduing

nyxl also exists I guess

but doubt they make it past knockouts

[hot onyx]

If Seoul continues the hog shit with Marve1 off tanking they’re never gonna get anywhere

Philly is gonna have a ton of practise

[tawdry hamlet]

tbh, I want to say boston or someone goes through but I know in knockouts their chances of beating shock or dallas are so low

despite their success

thus far

[hot onyx]

NineK will have belted Carpe and Rascal and told them it’d happen again if they didn’t get those sweet 3-0’s

[plush grail]

i remember marve1 being a solid af sigma

[tawdry hamlet]

I would have put philly through if eqo had gotten his visa a month ago

but he didn't

so I put them low

[hot onyx]

Doubter

[plush grail]

WOW SOMEONE WHO RATES EQO???/

[tawdry hamlet]

I rate eqo genji far higher than carpe or rascal genji

[hot onyx]

Reasonable

[tawdry hamlet]

and eqo hanzo hopefully better than carpe lmao

carpe last game on hanzo was

[hot onyx]

I never want to see Carpe play hanzo again for as long as I live

[tawdry hamlet]

and genji

lmao

they already had rascal on echo but meta shifted towards genji so they said

fuck it

carpe genji

loll

[hot onyx]

Genji was just a fluke attempt at building a blade, likely won’t happen again unless it’s trolling for a showmatch

But I don’t ever want to see Carpe touch hanzo even in his ranked games

Shit was tragic in playoffs and even worse against Nyxl and Hunters

[tawdry hamlet]

also picking up rascal so late making the pickup of shockwave useless was annoying because the funds they put into shockwave could have been used on their tank line

if they had a better tankline they could be number 1 or 2 in the world imo

poko hotba doesn't inspire me though

[willow tartan]

what you mean shockwave useless

shockwave poggers

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah but when your roster has carpe eqo rascal you don't need him is what I meant

since they cover every hero he does

[willow tartan]

yes....

[plush grail]

poko hotba is good tho

[willow tartan]

4 dps is too many

[vagrant cargo]

Vestola is a FAT pickup

[tawdry hamlet]

if they saved money and somehow kept fury

they would be so fucking good rn

[vagrant cargo]

Kinda surprised paris were willing to pay a buyout

[plush grail]

u sure u want fury????

he looks BOOMED

[vagrant cargo]

It wasnt abt money

I think

[tawdry hamlet]

sado and heesu went with the coach man, idk what they got for fury though

[vagrant cargo]

Like philly has a ton of money

Also shockwave is their second best tracer

[forest raven]

Philly is owned by comcast

They have fuck you money

[vagrant cargo]

Like shockwave is a crazy good pick for widow tracer etc

Also hes their best sombra too i think

[tawdry hamlet]

in the small chances of double hitscan yeah shockwave is useful but with rascal and how good echo is how useful can he really be

[hot onyx]

If sHockWave is better sombra than Heesu I will cream

[plush grail]

sans who is ur fav team

fusion right

[hot onyx]

Yeah Fusion, why?

[plush grail]

fuck you and the fusion

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean I love shockwave regardless, just sad to see another top player rot on a fuck you money teams bench

twilight moment

[willow tartan]

cough rappel

[vagrant cargo]

That wont happen

[hot onyx]

Yeah well best of luck to you and the Eternal on your conquest because I’m not one of the toxic fans : )

[vagrant cargo]

Eternal w vestola are a lot better

[willow tartan]

decay actually benched as well wtf

[vagrant cargo]

Their only weak player now is daan

[plush grail]

????

[tawdry hamlet]

decay is good on other hitscans, but jerry has improved a lot on sniper and tracer was banned and mag played like ass

so it makes sense he was benched tbf

[willow tartan]

daan pro gamer

[vagrant cargo]

Its funny seeing all the "oh i always said decay is overrated 🤓" nerds coming out their caves now

[plush grail]

he is overrated

[vagrant cargo]

I saw like ONE dude saying that pre season

And sticking to it

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah in hindsight yes

[plush grail]

im pretty sure ive said that in the pre-season too

[vagrant cargo]

But its funny how everyone wants to get the credit now

[willow tartan]

wj as a whole was overrated

[tawdry hamlet]

He hasn't had a chance to do anything besides Mccree and tracer, if you watched his pop off moments last season you would probably have overrated him too

[vagrant cargo]

I dont know that luigi but if u did props 2 u

[hot onyx]

Yeah I’m wishing you luck because you sure as hell need it

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean I hard overrated Decay because when he popped last season he was insane

[forest raven]

What if Decay's just like, an asshole

[tawdry hamlet]

rialto widow

[forest raven]

And that's why he gets benched or benches himself

[plush grail]

no idea if i ever said it here but he just seems like a bitch

gets hyped as this dps god, never really performs well, only when the justice pump him full he can win stuff

[tawdry hamlet]

he performed well, then switched to a full time tracer player 😦

[plush grail]

also ur all gonna look like clowns when EQO gets to apac

[willow tartan]

wj playoff run is cursed

[plush grail]

and benches rascal

[tawdry hamlet]

meh, why, he is going to play the genji over rascal most likely

[forest raven]

I mean Rascal's echo was not up to snuff

[willow tartan]

i have no memory of eqo ever playing echo

[vagrant cargo]

I mean

I can see EQO bench rascal

[willow tartan]

def

[vagrant cargo]

If rascal stays underperforming

But if rascal is back to prime.and performs like he did on illios

Playing eqo would be a throw for several reasons

He isnt better on any hero and he ruins full kr comms

[tawdry hamlet]

tbh, I don't think certain players were overrated so much as losing the team around them made them look so much worse, Sado and Decay and Fury and Fate being examples

[vagrant cargo]

Also fusions playstyle leaves rascal with no ressources

[tawdry hamlet]

well not really decay

[vagrant cargo]

For example he has the least healing received out of any echo

[tawdry hamlet]

he had no team around him on both dallas and wj until now

he just hasn't performed lmao

[vagrant cargo]

Also neither sado nor fury are much worse

Fury has been justices best player imo

Ssdo is fucked because no backline

Lastro asj are playing like shit rn

[willow tartan]

healing received is a stat?

where do i look mine up

[tawdry hamlet]

I was super hyped for assassin and valentine and they both are just like

existing

[willow tartan]

i swear my healing received on widowmaker is -2000 per 10

[tawdry hamlet]

Naga hard gapped assassin last series though I presume that is because the supports were focused on mags feeding lmao

[vagrant cargo]

Idk someone on phillycord brought that up

Valentine is poundinh

I always considered assassin overrated but he has outdone my expectations

[willow tartan]

wy guys think of faith so far

[vagrant cargo]

Best MS

unironically

Faith is super good

[willow tartan]

in NA?

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah

I can also see leaguewide

[tawdry hamlet]

Valentine got fucked like every series besides last week wym

[willow tartan]

i mean actually yeah

[vagrant cargo]

valentine only got fucked by kevster

[willow tartan]

been playing good

[vagrant cargo]

Faith also has no weak heros

And no monkey brain LJG moments

[plush grail]

still crazy how a team of contendies rookies and owl scraps could beat the well established justice roster

[willow tartan]

pew pew moth moment

[vagrant cargo]

I mean lori gap

[willow tartan]

feedgod moment

why are all the top main supports stupid

[tawdry hamlet]

because the only way to have fun on support is to go for feed plays

loll

[vagrant cargo]

I mean fdgod isnt stupid

He looked rough early on

[willow tartan]

not stupid i mean you know

[vagrant cargo]

But seems to bounce back

Yeah i get it

I think in may melee closer and tobi looked excellent

[tawdry hamlet]

he just has that lucio brain where you need to push even if it isn't in the best interest of the team you must do it

[willow tartan]

W+M1

[vagrant cargo]

Anyways

Wanna know a hot take

That might be biased

[tawdry hamlet]

tobi got to play mercy of course he was going to look excellent

[willow tartan]

fdgod was lapping jecse though during the fuel v shock match

[hot onyx]

I wanna know the hot take

[vagrant cargo]

But i think MuZe has so far looked better than mag in total

[vagrant cargo]

Mainly his brig impressed me

[vagrant cargo]

Which is funny because ppl who didnt watch tirr 2 always acted as if muze is way worse

[hot onyx]

I thought you said a hot take

[vagrant cargo]

Idk im uded to ppl underrating MuZe quite hard

[tawdry hamlet]

mag popped at the start but once monkey wasn't working florida and paris rolled him. where as glads have just been completely meh

[vagrant cargo]

Glads only lost 2 matches

And look better match to match

[tawdry hamlet]

Gladiators with a better coach would be ideal

[vagrant cargo]

They also looked good vs shock

And lost vs dallas

[tawdry hamlet]

would break the ceiling they seem to have found

[vagrant cargo]

Ever since the dallas loss they dropped one map

And they fixed their issues

They dont choke in OT, execute plans way better, good ult usage and MuZe synergy w bird and kevster is great rn

Space also improved quite a bit in terms of mechanics he just still suffers the ladder playstyle stuff

[hot onyx]

Imagine in 2022 they announce that dPeis contract gets extended for 2 years like Kukis

[vagrant cargo]

Where he sometimes tunnelvisions

I wanted KDG for philly

For glads*

Or nineK

Or junkbuck

[hot onyx]

Or anyone that isn’t Dpei IMT or Whynot

[vagrant cargo]

Yes

[hot onyx]

Aero to Glads 2022

You will eat those words like alphabet soup

[tawdry hamlet]

I find space has a lot of ladder playstyle ingrained in him and it lowkey holds the team back

Skewed has been a great brig specialist so far which is pretty cool

oh yeah didn't Gladiators lose a series where they tried to play Mirror early on in the season?

Oh yeah that was when kevster was on ping I remember now

[vagrant cargo]

Agreed

[tawdry hamlet]

Is it a hot take to say after mirror he's the worst on the team and I only say that because mirror barely plays so idk he gives me hydration vibes lmao

That's another thing why tf does hydration still have a contract

What can he do that danteh ksf and happy can't besides shit idk like doomfist or pharah ig lol

I guess Junkrat too but he's irrelevant and they have Jake loll

[willow tartan]

nah

space def the worst gladiator

not hot take imo

[vagrant cargo]

Hes by far their worst starter

[tawdry hamlet]

Hmm, I wonder who could replace him had they not kept him

[little tusk]

damn diem retired

who here was the guy saying diem would def play

[devout path]

Not me

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-stfu-blah-blah-gif-13070641

[devout path]

5 and a half hours

[plush grail]

tillu cry?

[devout path]

No till Boston goes 3-0 this tourney

[vagrant cargo]

Clestyn

[hot onyx]

Or GaeBullSsi if they got him before Uprising

Pre existing tank synergy with MuZe

[devout path]

As a gbs simp Boston > glads

[hot onyx]

Nah, there’s only so much dominating GBS can do with StandDumb as his tank partner

[plush grail]

remember when ur precious off tank lost in trials?? @devout path

[devout path]

Where is your off tank

[plush grail]

well he actually managed to make it to contenders

so a big step up from gbs

[vagrant cargo]

MuZe GBS would have been crazy

[vagrant cargo]

Maybe

But glads can definitely beat them

Also glads with GBS>>

[tropic herald]

Boston could beat glads but I’m not going to pred Boston to win that until they win that

[vagrant cargo]

Same

And im a glads fan so

[plush grail]

what the fuck is this sentence my man

[tropic herald]

It makes perfect sense

[vagrant cargo]

Also kevster gapped valentine before and he gapped pelican

[tropic herald]

I’m not going to pred Boston until I’m more confident in them

[vagrant cargo]

He can do it again

Because kevster is just god

[forest raven]

Is it a hot take to say Dallas and Shock's monkey brawl would run over glads and houston orisa shit

[vagrant cargo]

Idk abt glads but definitely over houston

[tropic herald]

Although Boston will 3-0 Paris Bc no way an off tank replacement like that will look pretty for them

[vagrant cargo]

I can see glads putting up a good fight

[noble nexus]

monkey brawl from high level teams pounds

[devout path]

That’s just team diff tho

[forest raven]

No other team has played on the same tempo as Shock and Dallas

[tropic herald]

Dallas Shock should beat Glads Houston each but it won’t be a stomp

[vagrant cargo]

I think houston gets stomped

I dont rate them

They are worse than atl tbh

[devout path]

Glads gets stomped harder

[vagrant cargo]

Nah

Glads>houston

[devout path]

That’s just wrong

[vagrant cargo]

Not rlly

[noble nexus]

I'm a glads fan and I don't even think I could put them over houston with a clear advantage

[vagrant cargo]

Glads beat atl and look rlly clean and coordinated rn

[noble nexus]

I do think they could win tho

[vagrant cargo]

While houston played one good team (atl) and got fucked lmao

[devout path]

Yes and Houston adapted after losing the first game and has looked strong since

[vagrant cargo]

Mayhem struggled vs london, toronto had no heesu and is in general wacky rn and london is

London

[noble nexus]

atlanta were kinda ass in their glads match

[vagrant cargo]

Houston havent faced any good competition

[noble nexus]

they even made space look good

[vagrant cargo]

Atlanta were ass because they got outclassed

[tropic herald]

Houston kinda got gifted this stage

[vagrant cargo]

Its a team diff

Glads understanding of the meta and their playstyle put them easily ahead

Also if u wanna talk abt looking good

In the last 4 games glads dropped ONE map

After looking good vs shock on their opener

[tawdry hamlet]

We found the glads fan

[tropic herald]

This weekend is gonna be nuts

[vagrant cargo]

Like glads had one bad game vs fuel and a shaky game vs london

[devout path]

Boston dropped 0 maps in the last 2 games

[noble nexus]

they looked shaky vs london

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah boston is good

[tropic herald]

Too many individual matches matter

[vagrant cargo]

Lack of confidence i think

[forest raven]

They're last four games have been London, Boston, Vancouver, and Atlanta

[vagrant cargo]

Atlanta is good and boston made it competitve w everyone but glads in their Ls iirc

Like they outclassed every team they faced since then

[tropic herald]

Dallas play Florida today

[vagrant cargo]

While houston had a decently competitve series w a team that struggled vs london and lost to atl

I hope florida get their shit together

[noble nexus]

the only reason their shock game was competitive was because the shock played viol2t cree

[vagrant cargo]

Becsuse rn they look rlly weak

Viol2t cree pounded

Lol

[noble nexus]

viol2t cree only pounded because kevster was ass that game

[vagrant cargo]

Glads won the first map where he didnt even play cree

I mean kevster did good viol2t cree pounded because viol2t cree is pretty nasty mechanics wise

[tawdry hamlet]

Florida are such a wild card. I can never tell where they sit because one day they'll stomp a good team then next day lose a map to Someone like London

[vagrant cargo]

I think kuki can fix their issues

So i expect them to look a lot better

[noble nexus]

I want London's only win to be against the shock or dallas or some shit

[tawdry hamlet]

Will we see checkmate this season is the real question

[noble nexus]

that'd be wild

[vagrant cargo]

Then they did vs london and houston

[forest raven]

Shock are obligated to lose against one bad team each year

[tropic herald]

I expect Florida to come out today and mirror Dallas in the rush but if they don’t I will be sad

[vagrant cargo]

Already did this year

[noble nexus]

I hope they feel the need to lose to London

[vagrant cargo]

Houston :^)

[forest raven]

Damn you really don't rate houston

[vagrant cargo]

I do think they are good

But i dont have them top tier

Both dallas and shock had their worst performances vs houston

Like i rewatched both matches and it was just happy diff

Dragging them trough every map kicking anf screaming

[tawdry hamlet]

Houston are top 4 na gatekeepers at best very best but certainly not bad

[noble nexus]

happy can't diff the dallas' hitscan if they don't have one

its big brain

[vagrant cargo]

Once dallas got their shit together houston got swept and then lost to atlants

[tropic herald]

Pelican on echo 😍

[vagrant cargo]

And now ppl say they improved when all they did was beat a struggling mayhem, the worst team in the leagie and a toronto w a worse hitscan and no full kr comms therefore worse overall play

[tropic herald]

Rest of atlanta 😒

[vagrant cargo]

Based

Pelican on any hero 😍

[forest raven]

Gator is in the league

Fissure is not

[vagrant cargo]

Fissure is also retired isnt he

[tropic herald]

Atlanta actually make upgrades to more than one role in the off season challenge

[forest raven]

(Impossible)

[vagrant cargo]

Atlanta somehow not looking like thw best tean

In their ideal meta

Even after all the scrimmbux

Sheeesh

I still remember when ppl acted as if atlanta would be top 3 NA 😭

[forest raven]

Yeah, atlanta fans

[vagrant cargo]

Never ever trust scrimmbux

It somehow happens every year

[tropic herald]

I’m not watching their matches super closely but I’m just gonna put the filler response: sephy

[vagrant cargo]

I mean yeah

And hawk

And masaa

[forest raven]

Unter will carry them out of mediocrity

[vagrant cargo]

Gator orisa is fine

Kai is good

Pelican top tier

Iris exists

[tropic herald]

I think iris is better than people rate him but also he has masaa

[vagrant cargo]

I think iris is in a weird spot

[forest raven]

Masaa goes to sleep and dreams of goats every night

[vagrant cargo]

U have ppl that for some reason think he is bad

And then u have ppl that say he is top 5 NA

Lmao

I think iris is mid table

[tropic herald]

Top 5 na hmmmmm

[vagrant cargo]

My top 5 NA is Viol2t Shu Fielder Gangnamjin Kaan

Kaan is crazy

He legit does 0 mistakes

[tropic herald]

Viol2t Twilight Shu Fielder GangNamJim hmm

[vagrant cargo]

I tried to do one per team

[tropic herald]

Kaan good too but I also have the bias of his team fucking sucks so it’s hard to rate him

[vagrant cargo]

But if we count twilight then kaan out ye

[tropic herald]

I’d definitely but Iris with Kaan or right after

[raw ermine]

Rip diem

[vagrant cargo]

I would have kaan 6th myun 7th iris 8th crimzo 9th lastro 10th ripa 11th and roolf 12th

Actually bebe 10th

Forgot abt him

[tropic herald]

Yea, Diem retire is the hardest retire to hit in a while

[forest raven]

Man it really is bullshit for all the other teams in the league that shock have both super and smurf, and viol2t and twilight

[vagrant cargo]

I mean super is kinda a rein otp

His orisa is aight

[tropic herald]

Shanghai have Molly and Izayaki

[vagrant cargo]

But his monkey oh nonono

[tropic herald]

Also Chengdu have 1987 and Mmonk

[forest raven]

?

[vagrant cargo]

Glads have skewed n shu

[forest raven]

Man hasn't had to play monkey professionally since 2018 of course it's not up to scratch

[vagrant cargo]

He was always a weak monkey

[tropic herald]

Well yea but it still wasn’t ever good

[vagrant cargo]

It has always been his worst hero

[forest raven]

His worst tank is sigma

[vagrant cargo]

And when he played it this season muze absolutely demolished him on illios

And the fact that they whipped it out in the first place means they scrimmed super monkey at least on that map

[tawdry hamlet]

Chengdu have a stacked support line

[vagrant cargo]

And it was still bad

[forest raven]

Also calling super a rein otp after grand finals last year is weird

[tawdry hamlet]

Name one other time hog was relevant

In recent history

[tropic herald]

Ok he’s a rein hog 2 trick

[vagrant cargo]

If we consider heros like hog sure he isnt

Then michelle shall be listed in sombra Lists

[tropic herald]

Bumper Number one Hanzo

[vagrant cargo]

Agilities god of bap

[forest raven]

I think y'all underestimate him

[vagrant cargo]

Nah

[tawdry hamlet]

Chengdu really took 1987 mmonk Nisha and yveltal though, that is like so stacked

[vagrant cargo]

Its just the typical NA/western bias

That is pretty strong in the western ow fanbase

[vagrant cargo]

Fr

[forest raven]

I live in Australia

I watch more APAC than NA

[vagrant cargo]

Australia still gets considered western

For ow

Because they are way to bad to even compare them with cn and kr

[tawdry hamlet]

I wish lige was able to play this season, unfortunate with that. He was so good in gauntlet

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah

[forest raven]

I didn't say I wasn't western

[vagrant cargo]

Ma bad

[forest raven]

I can actually watch APAC teams a lot more than anyone in NA

[vagrant cargo]

Missunderstood then

[tawdry hamlet]

I also wish hz got 1987 since they'd probably actually use him

[vagrant cargo]

I mean yeah but i was talking in general

[limber pine]

I need to watch APAC more

it's just so early

[vagrant cargo]

I rewatch most matches

[tropic herald]

Hangzhou Shanghai and Chengdu matches are all worth

[tawdry hamlet]

I just want Choi and Eileen to play good like usual and for Kaylee brain to activate

[forest raven]

Kaylee on the bench forever

[tawdry hamlet]

I like the charge roster minus Mandu 😭

And probably the limitations of the tank line

I don't like those either lmao

[vagrant cargo]

Charge godsb

Make it happen

[tawdry hamlet]

I think halo said he was considering retirement or something

[vagrant cargo]

That reminds me when someone on titanscord told me dalton>godsb 2 days ago

[tawdry hamlet]

[vagrant cargo]

yeah

Mans said godsb was a bottom 2 hs LMAO

[tawdry hamlet]

I watched godsb stream like 2 days ago, was very cool 😎

He was farming on cree

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah godsb crazy

Super underrated hs

[tropic herald]

I want to know who is coaching charge now Bc apparently neko got the boot

[tawdry hamlet]

Teams outside of America and changing coaches, such an iconic duo

[forest raven]

NY

pepe

laugh

[vagrant cargo]

glads and sticking w a meh HC

[tropic herald]

NoHill

Glads when the manager talks to the head coach

[tawdry hamlet]

I doubt anyone will hire nohill after he shit on rui even if he was kind of based in saying that compared to team cc the league sucks ass and yet he still isn't a coach

But you never know he is good coach

[forest raven]

Why are glads so willing to invest so much into their roster and then give like five bucks and a piece of lint for their coaching staff

[limber pine]

because they like dpei

[tawdry hamlet]

But they have YouTuber coach so it's ok

[tropic herald]

Guangzhou signed a MLM they don’t care

[forest raven]

Fuck Guangzhou

Shady mfers

[next mesa]

idk spark would rather die than use a chinese fs

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean fair but herbal life is like an old old mlm, it isn't like they signed Lululemon or some shit

[next mesa]

free coldest

thx

mans cracked

[tawdry hamlet]

My mom's friend used to sell Herbalife 😭

[next mesa]

put him on charge or smt

[tawdry hamlet]

Can someone tell me if kariv is good or not. He's either called washed and bad or underrated

[next mesa]

I didnt watch that many charge games

but like he seems fine

[tawdry hamlet]

I am once again just now remembering seominsoo is on spark loll

Swear I forget that so often

[little tusk]

ur fine

[tawdry hamlet]

[tropic herald]

Kariv last three supports Kruise Kellex Mandu

[tawdry hamlet]

Are charge the only apac team to sign western players?

[tropic herald]

Philly

[tawdry hamlet]

Also rip kariv his Ms have all been kind of bad

[vagrant cargo]

I mean kariv isnt good either

[noble nexus]

idk I don't think he's bad but he does get overrated sometimes

purely based on once per season carry performances

if he had a decent MS to work with he'd look a lot better tho

[raw ermine]

imagine telling a s2 person that diem and erster were on the same team

and they retired

and the team was still top tier

[tawdry hamlet]

Tragic

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/TorontoDefiant/status/1400180418771439619
Toronto is doing a pride month tournament. You can sign up here!

Toronto Defiant 🌈 #RiseTogether (@TorontoDefiant)

🚨REGISTRATION IS NOW OPEN🚨

Sign up for our Community Cup for Pride here 👉 https://t.co/yVc2niu3F2
Looking for a team or have questions? Join our Discord! https://t.co/veSoWFGE0C

#RiseTogether #OWL2021 #PrideMonth #Pride

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Twitter · Jun 2, 2021, 8:00 PM

[limber pine]

nice

[tawdry hamlet]

Letsfuckinggoooo

Cool Org 😎

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/TeamDisasterOW/status/1400370016604856324

Disaster (@TeamDisasterOW)

Flowers were gone, and there was a Disaster

It was exhausting time for all of us, so every player and staff member now are taking a break or going LFT (pick up them!)

Thanks everyone for your supporting, even if we didn't made it so far as was expectedform us.

Sorry for that https://t.co/VWBIHrCxew

Twitter · Jun 3, 2021, 8:33 AM

[tawdry hamlet]

That was the very first team funi dunked on iirc

[noble nexus]

they got tossed too hard

kind of sad tbh

[tawdry hamlet]

Kage was actually pretty good tbh

I mean good relative to the stomping they received lmao

[hot onyx]

Hey they took a map

Wouldn’t call that a total stomp

[willow tartan]

do we get to fight toronto as the final boss

[raw ermine]

yes. Every single torontonian comes to your house to beat you up

[willow tartan]

no i mean the team

[raw ermine]

go to the TD discord server to ask questions. they have a channel there

!!help

!!OWLdiscord

[young fractal]

Atlanta Reign: https://discord.gg/atlreign
Boston Uprising: https://discord.gg/bostonup
Chengdu Hunters: https://discord.gg/hunters
Dallas Fuel: https://discord.gg/dallasfuel
Florida Mayhem: https://discord.gg/flmayhem
Guangzhou Charge: https://discord.gg/gzcharge
Hangzhou Spark: https://discord.gg/hangzhouspark
Houston Outlaws: https://discord.gg/outlaws
London Spitfire: https://discord.gg/spitfire
Los Angeles Gladiators: https://discord.gg/gladiators
Los Angeles Valiant: https://discord.gg/lavaliant
New York Excelsior: https://discord.gg/andbox
Paris Eternal: https://discord.gg/paris-eternal
Philadelphia Fusion: https://discord.gg/phillyfusion
San Francisco Shock: https://discord.gg/sfshock
Seoul Dynasty: https://discord.gg/seouldynasty
Shanghai Dragons: https://discord.gg/shanghaidragons
Toronto Defiant: https://discord.gg/torontodefiant
Vancouver Titans: https://discord.gg/titans
Washington Justice: https://discord.gg/washjustice

[willow tartan]

dude the prize is 1,000 owl tokens

actually pogging

[plush grail]

i cant wait till the paris merch shop opens

[tawdry hamlet]

Ahhh so many pride logos

I love atlanta's wow

Florida's also looks very nice

[tropic herald]

hunters and spark when pride

[willow tartan]

The charge one looks sleek

[balmy wolf]

Seoul looks pretty nice

[cursive plover]

Seoul has a very cute logo

[tropic herald]

atlantas is actually so good wtf

[willow tartan]

spark already has one by default

[plush grail]

paris no pride icon sadge

[willow tartan]

paris is too busy losing players and then signing new ones within 12 hours

[balmy wolf]

ouch

[trail perch]

diem...

:(

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/Hangzhou_Spark/status/1400450697703821318?s=19

Hangzhou Spark (@Hangzhou_Spark)

The Hangzhou Spark 2021 Homestand event begins tomorrow! ✧٩(ˊωˋ*)و✧
#SparkIt | #HangzhouSpark | #OWL2021

Twitter · Jun 3, 2021, 1:54 PM

[vagrant cargo]

Man.all the links made me realize

Im banned on 11 owlcords LMAO

[raw ermine]

did you go to the servers and starting harassing the fans after they lost?

[trail perch]

I wonder why...

[vagrant cargo]

Nah

[willow tartan]

excited :)

[vagrant cargo]

I got banned on sparkcord for something i didnt do

[earnest leaf]

Of you got banned on 11 you did something wrong lmao

[vagrant cargo]

Which led to a chainban on atl shock and pariscord

Because tje mods there work together or something

My valiantcord ban was in S1 when i was a lot more toxic n shit

That one was deserved

[willow tartan]

yes all the owl servers are linked together

its like how all subreddits are owned by the same 4 people

[vagrant cargo]

Shanghaicord banned me for saying labeling ans a homophobe etc 247 is kinda unfair

Like no joke Shanghaicord ban was confusing but i barely talked in there anyways and they prolly saw i was banned on other cords

Dallas cord was after a uh heated S2 argument

[willow tartan]

what does shanghai have to do with ans

[vagrant cargo]

Idk but i saw someone say they ate happy that he retired because hes a homophobe

[trail perch]

what did ans do?

[vagrant cargo]

Didnt he call diems playstyle gay or something like that

In the widow v widow tourney

[next mesa]

oh

no no

[earnest leaf]

Ans made a bad joke and didn't understand it fully

[vagrant cargo]

In a deragotary way

Yeah

[earnest leaf]

Then apologized the next day

[next mesa]

he didnt want to play in a "gay" way is what he said

[willow tartan]

oh thats not bad

[vagrant cargo]

It was a shitty thing to say but he apologize

[next mesa]

because basically widow 1v1

just no one peaking

[trail perch]

I miss diem :(

already

[next mesa]

probably wanted to say like a pussy way

[willow tartan]

i mean gay isnt inaccurate

[next mesa]

remember that time where theyre just hiding behind a wall

[trail perch]

whos going to win the widow tourny?

[next mesa]

for like 3 minutes

[trail perch]

????????

[vagrant cargo]

and torontocord banned me.because i called the mods Favorite toxic crybaby racist :)

[trail perch]

Im sorry what

[willow tartan]

well idk in english speaking countries, but over here gay is a common way to refer to something like that

[next mesa]

Pine will win

[vagrant cargo]

For telling a black mutual of mine that his face looks like the shit he flushes down the toilet

[willow tartan]

ans is korean right? i dont know how it is like over there

[trail perch]

Im sorry what

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah

[earnest leaf]

Linkzr will win

[vagrant cargo]

And then he went "i didnt know how he looked like :(("

But starboy gets the early supporter treatment

[trail perch]

So thats homophobic

[willow tartan]

diem gets resigned only to play widow 1v1 then retires straight after

[trail perch]

and thats very racist

[vagrant cargo]

It is

[willow tartan]

well not really, because gay is just not associated with homosexuals in that context

separate words

[vagrant cargo]

And i called him racist several times

And then he pinged mods and whoops i was gone : D

[trail perch]

what other fucking context

There is no context

[vagrant cargo]

Also what

[trail perch]

gay=gay

[earnest leaf]

In the past using "gay" as an insult is deragatory, and is looked down upon here in the states

[next mesa]

Pine will win

[noble nexus]

^

[willow tartan]

people over here dont use gay to refer to homosexuals

[vagrant cargo]

Tbere is no context that makes using gay in a deragotary way okay

[trail perch]

Thats what the word means

[next mesa]

people over here use gay for everything

[noble nexus]

this is such a dodgy topic

[willow tartan]

words can have multiple meanings you know

[next mesa]

omg this thing mildly inconveniences me thats so gay bro

[trail perch]

Im from spain and we understand that its wrong

[earnest leaf]

@trail perch different countries use words differently

[vagrant cargo]

Where u from @willow tartan

[trail perch]

Si soy de españa

[willow tartan]

indonesia

[vagrant cargo]

Same in germany

[willow tartan]

over here, gay isnt used to refer to homosexual. you just say homosexual/homo

[trail perch]

Then what does gay mean

think for a second

[willow tartan]

its a expletive

[next mesa]

here it means anything thats an inconvenience

[tropic herald]

one, this is a pretty western server so gay is homosexual and two this is #esports-discussion so this conversation shouldn't be happening here or on the server

[trail perch]

and why is it that??

Thats literally homophobic

[next mesa]

mb

[tropic herald]

please stop having this conversation

[willow tartan]

not about this server, it was talking about ans saying it

nothing to do with this server

[noble nexus]

you're talking about it in this server???

just hush hush big guy

[willow tartan]

???

[tropic herald]

esports esports esports

did you guys see the hangzhou stage

[willow tartan]

yes its very nice

[trail perch]

IT LOOKS SO PRETTY

[willow tartan]

unfortuantely i cannot go...

[trail perch]

It screams trans rights

[noble nexus]

hangzhou have such good facilities

[willow tartan]

maybe i will be able to come during the countdown cup

depend on covid situation here

[limber pine]

is there an app/site that maintains up-to-date OWL advanced stats?

[trail perch]

statslab

[willow tartan]

Statslab

[tropic herald]

stats lab is about as fast as it gets

its updated weekly

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/statslab

[limber pine]

I understands stats lab

but I need something that parses the advanced stats

[willow tartan]

Like?

[limber pine]

if I wanted to see primal rage kills

without running through the excel sheet

[tribal canopy]

I know what you are talking about

[tropic herald]

i dont think any site or app offers that but also i bet if you ask the stats people on twitter they might respond

[limber pine]

The zip file with the stats has 332048 records

[vagrant cargo]

Reading stats is always tricky

Because context matters a shitton

[limber pine]

obviously, but that's not my question

the advanced data provides stats per match, so each player has an instance of:

1. Each hero they played (per map)
2. a summary across all heroes they played (per map)
3. 70 individual stats

[balmy wolf]

ATLANTA GLADS FOR JJ

[limber pine]

for example, Doha's Mei has 39 different stats just for one Busan map on 5/2

it's almost impossible to parse through

adding Sombra, Sym, and All Heroes, that # goes up to 104

[plush grail]

all u need to know

is that paris WILL beat boston

and lily WILL cry

[tepid ibex]

this opinion is uh very wrong

[balmy wolf]

haha

it is

[plush grail]

:(

[barren quest]

Today is going to be a great day for Luigi and Lily

[tepid ibex]

damn looking at what shanghai has posted is making me sad

diem sadge

[barren quest]

Gotta buy a Boston skin if you lose

[plush grail]

but im saving up for dallas doom :(

[barren quest]

Then win

So Lily will have to get a Paris skin

[plush grail]

im willing to bet lily is gonna bail last second

[balmy wolf]

prob

[barren quest]

I still need to get 40 more tokens so I can buy Chengdu Orisa

[balmy wolf]

-100 again

[plush grail]

fucking

200 tokens

on shit teams

if paris loses

[balmy wolf]

xD

[plush grail]

thats 40 hours of my life

GONE

[noble nexus]

I doubt paris wins against boston

I think boston just looks better in this meta

plus the paris OT situation

[plush grail]

how long till game

[balmy wolf]

4 hrs

[plush grail]

god thats so long

normally i just nap to skip time

but its too hot for that

[noble nexus]

nap in your freezer

[balmy wolf]

would be cool if atl and boston meet in qualifiers

so i can bet with lily

[noble nexus]

atlanta can get rolled again then

[devout path]

Kiss your ass out of qualifiers

[balmy wolf]

you wish

[devout path]

Luigi

[noble nexus]

smoking that paris pack

[balmy wolf]

we gonna roll your ass team

[devout path]

Do you know what qualifiers is...

[balmy wolf]

hes braindead

[devout path]

True Paris gonna get rolled

[balmy wolf]

ofc he lacks the knowledge

[plush grail]

what

[devout path]

Luigi

[balmy wolf]

we can def agree on that

[devout path]

This is qualifiers.......

[barren quest]

Gotta buy a Boston skin when you lose

[devout path]

I’ll buy a paris skin

I’ll buy a daan skin

If paris takes a map

[balmy wolf]

ew

[devout path]

One map

I’m so certain Boston 3-0s

[noble nexus]

using the paris reinhardt skin automatically unbinds every button but charge

[balmy wolf]

oh no no

[plush grail]

lily lets make the bet rn okay

if paris wins i pick what paris skin u get

if boston wins u pick what boston skin i get

[devout path]

Ok

[plush grail]

that just took all of my braincells to type holy shit

[devout path]

If paris takes a map I buy a paris skin but I choose the skin

[balmy wolf]

luigi not satisfied with the atlanta widow

he wants more

[devout path]

Paris won’t take a map

[noble nexus]

luigi not satisfied with wasting his tokens one time

[balmy wolf]

they will take a nap

after getting rolled

[devout path]

Ok

[thin relic]

nah

yall are underrating paris HARD

[devout path]

If they take a point off the first map

[thin relic]

idk why

[devout path]

I’ll admit paris is ok

[devout path]

New off tank

New main support

Bleh main tank

Garbage hitscan

[thin relic]

vestola has synergy with daan from before 🙂