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[devout path]

dallas reverse sweep

[uneven saffron]

yes dude :c

[autumn escarp]

Did you see What void did today

[willow tartan]

yea

[stuck sparrow]

Next is illios right

[willow tartan]

that was sick

[wanton wigeon]

I BELIEVEEEE

[willow tartan]

Illios yeah

[autumn escarp]

I know

[stuck sparrow]

Bruh that mercy wasn’t even close to the remech

[wanton wigeon]

ilios next map? fr?

such a good map for dallas

[hollow river]

this new dva thing is broken

[willow tartan]

Her big Valkyrie wings got hit

Valk wings are part of hotbox

hitbox

[stuck sparrow]

That should be removed from the game lol

[chilly jolt]

BRUH

[stuck sparrow]

She was no where near it

[chilly jolt]

ik bro

[devout path]

true

[autumn escarp]

who are you guys rooting for shock or fuel The shock need to win

[digital cloud]

rooting for dallas

[chilly jolt]

this would not be happening if shock didn't close out the game on second point in the 4th round on anubis smh

they were up like 2 and dallas didn't even use that many últs

[plush zenith]

dallas

[chilly jolt]

últs 🥸

[autumn escarp]

Well I in California so shock

[chilly jolt]

ilios is fdgods map

no way they lose

[willow tartan]

fdGOD

[noble nexus]

"walking duck"

[chilly jolt]

lol

[uneven saffron]

the best description of an ulting reaper

[noble nexus]

the man that casts professional overwatch thinks walking duck is a saying

god I fucking live Bren and sideshow tbh

[raw ermine]

epic

[chilly jolt]

C9

[forest raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838533916129361931/848701871706603541/image0.gif

[chilly jolt]

😍😍

[raw ermine]

is there a website that allows you to make these? lol

[forest raven]

Probably

[raw ermine]

how did you make it?

[frosty shell]

fuel is so bad

c9

[forest raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838533916129361931/848702229077557258/unknown.png

[chilly jolt]

how do i like an image on discord

how do i pin it

[uneven saffron]

oh dallas has adapted shock's method of burning ults when you're losing hard

[willow tartan]

fdgod pov

[shadow dagger]

Can’t unless you have perms

[frosty shell]

mods and above only

[willow tartan]

Fearless boomed

[chilly jolt]

darnit

[noble nexus]

its insane that shock are playing dive into dallas and winning

[chilly jolt]

it's cuz they have fd

[ornate rose]

sparkle getting reaper diffed hard

[gilded carbon]

beans

[frosty shell]

gg

[gilded carbon]

toes happening?

[frosty shell]

WAIT PAUSE

[gilded carbon]

if I hear nerf this one more time

[uneven saffron]

so god damn many self destructs

[raw ermine]

holyyyyyyyy

[frosty shell]

i jinxed it

[plush zenith]

LETS GO

[hollow river]

NO WAY THEY LOST THAT

[stuck sparrow]

That was such a good round

[gilded carbon]

you actual nut

[stuck sparrow]

Holy shit

[earnest leaf]

How many bombs have been used

this series

[ornate rose]

SHEEEEEEEEESH

[tawdry hamlet]

[gilded carbon]

ikr

[ornate rose]

how many coals lmao

[chilly jolt]

BROOOOO

[willow tartan]

jinxed

[tawdry hamlet]

how close it finna be

[young locust]

Sp9rk1e moment game

When you do absolutely nothing

[stuck sparrow]

There’s at least 2 bombs each team fight

[astral juniper]

The caster are exhausted

[young locust]

But still win

[gilded carbon]

Im gonna have nightmares where I just hear "nerf this" "nerf this" "nerf this"

[frosty shell]

here it comes

[ornate rose]

id love to see everyones stats for each round

[frosty shell]

reverse sweep

[hollow river]

with echo voice

[ornate rose]

the amount of dmg and heals is crazy

[gilded carbon]

yes

THis is why hero pools are lame

there were map dependent comps before

[hollow bough]

reverse sweep

[gilded carbon]

now its just the same comps for hours

[astral juniper]

Both teams playing super safe lul

[gilded carbon]

we've literally been seeing this comp mirrored for 4 maps

[hollow bough]

its like may melee early mei comp

[uneven saffron]

the remech, you love to see

[chilly jolt]

REMECH

if both teams are playing the reaper then both teams are gonna play the dva

[rough sand]

JECSE

[frosty shell]

SHOCKS going to lose

[rough sand]

STOP DYING

[frosty shell]

tying to jinx it for fuel

[worn zephyr]

is this fricking diva bomb custom game

[chilly jolt]

and with reaper getting buffed soon i think it's gonna stay that way for a little bit until he next hero pool reset probably

[frosty shell]

to make them lose

[worn zephyr]

5 diva bombs in a fight lmao

[frosty shell]

UH OH

[rough sand]

Nerf this nerf this nerf this

[frosty shell]

fuel has ult advantage

[rough sand]

And

[uneven saffron]

ggs

[frosty shell]

they have echo ult for infinite bombs

[hollow river]

gg

[raw ermine]

YESSS

[wicked pendant]

Gg

[raw ermine]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOH

[frank granite]

gg

[rough sand]

But they still lost

[raw ermine]

6 POINTS

[ornate rose]

damn sooooooo close

[hollow bough]

g fucking g

[frosty shell]

yeah gg

ez

[earnest leaf]

EZ

[chilly jolt]

who guessed 3-1

[plush zenith]

GG

[tribal canopy]

No doubt

[raw ermine]

me and you buddy

[wicked pendant]

That was hype as fuck

[willow tartan]

The shock are back

[frosty shell]

I REALLY dont want shock to win at the finals because i want new team skin not another shock skin

[astral juniper]

Are we really gonna loose these matches with OW2 ??? like wtf

[willow tartan]

L

[next mesa]

Fuck Mann

[astral juniper]

[hollow river]

intense match

[stuck radish]

I AGED 20 YEARS FROM WATCHING THIS GAME

[forest raven]

Nero mvp

[young locust]

I can’t decide if these one liners from the casters are cringe or not

[earnest leaf]

Sideshow said they were evenly matched

when dallas only took a map when viol2t was on lucio

[chilly jolt]

they are cringe

[frosty shell]

i watched flats and emongg whatch it

[chilly jolt]

viol2t on lucio.

[frosty shell]

OH GOD

[willow tartan]

When Glister was playing shock dominated

[chilly jolt]

viol2t on lucio.

[uneven saffron]

viol2t just trying to get heroes played in owl bingo

[chilly jolt]

exactly

[forest raven]

Smurf incredibly handsome

[stuck radish]

shock turned it up this game especially the dps

also fdgod is no longer feedgod

[earnest leaf]

All of shock played really well

[shadow dagger]

And Nero

[earnest leaf]

Nero echo gapped doha and sparkler surprisingly

[frank granite]

striker dominated on reaper

[chilly jolt]

smurfffff

[forest raven]

Dude I totally underestimated nero

[chilly jolt]

ik striker absolutely went sicko mode

[noble nexus]

Nero has a big penis

[chilly jolt]

nero is actually really good

[noble nexus]

he just doesn't always show it off

[shadow dagger]

Nero is hot in game and out

[chilly jolt]

not as good as rascal

[frank granite]

blossoms were a lot better than sparkles

[chilly jolt]

but still very very good

[analog stratus]

smurf rolled that lucio on 2cp

[forest raven]

If nero improves his dupes he'll be fucking disgustingly good

[worldly flax]

let's goooo shock

[noble nexus]

absolutely ruined my near perfect preds for NA this weekend

😭

[stuck radish]

nero's dupes were so much better than doha's

except when he duped mercy on anubis

[hollow hinge]

For me it was lucio diff

[barren quest]

Sparkle made some questionable decisions

[noble nexus]

I'm never falling for the shock doubter mentality again

they're too good for that shit

[forest raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/838533916129361931/848706291630211152/E2qyhD_VUAEPVzA.png

[noble nexus]

as you should

[hollow hinge]

Dallas just got too scared to play there own meta

[wintry kraken]

man, these "stock footage friends" are hilarious when you think about the "Casters to masters" series (considering they head to more like "casters to bronze") 😄

[noble nexus]

glister is such a fuckin hunk of a man

[hollow hinge]

Bad decisions

[stuck radish]

desk boomed

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/smurf_ow/status/1399148041907564545?s=19

smurf (@smurf_ow)

ggs @DallasFuel omg i played so bad..

Twitter · May 30, 2021, 11:37 PM

SMURF

NO

[devout path]

cough cough boston still #1 cough cough

[forest raven]

@tropic herald So much for that dps gap

[astral juniper]

Is he mocking ? dunno the guy : (

[devout path]

no

[forest raven]

No he isn't

[earnest leaf]

yep

[devout path]

smurf not toxic

[forest raven]

Smurf

[earnest leaf]

this match was longer than the last two matches combined

[wicked pendant]

Glister kinda cute ngl no homo tho

[forest raven]

https://i.imgur.com/TPL0v16.png

[astral juniper]

Oh ok

[willow tartan]

I mean Smurf could've played better

[forest raven]

The man had better primals than fearless

[willow tartan]

but you're always looking to improve

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/super_OW/status/1399149221505241090?s=19

Matthew DeLisi (@super_OW)

@smurf_ow @DallasFuel Shut the fuck up holy shit

Likes

114

Twitter · May 30, 2021, 11:42 PM

[willow tartan]

don't get excited

focus on next match

[stuck radish]

lmao

[forest raven]

There's a point where it's unhealthy

[stuck radish]

smurf got player of the match how did he play bad

[earnest leaf]

Top 4 in the leaderboards for this channel now

ez

[forest raven]

[worn hornet]

custa 6head moves

[astral juniper]

Was wondering why was everyone dressing brown

[willow tartan]

wait

what does brown mean

[astral juniper]

They are all color coordinated

[willow tartan]

for what?

what's happening

[astral juniper]

Dunno

Yesterday was like this too

[worn hornet]

I can't wait for green weekend where they vanish into the background

[stuck radish]

it signifies the quality of most of the games

[willow tartan]

brown quality?

[raw ermine]

knew it.

[willow tartan]

you know, maybe they put viol2t on lucio because they felt bad after dorado

[earnest leaf]

also

fdgod hard lucio gapped Jecse

[stuck radish]

i was also surprised at how well both moiras played

coal literally every fight

[worldly flax]

I think smurf was trying to be humble but it got lost in translation?

[willow tartan]

did you see the sparkle and doha coals though...

[worldly flax]

cause smurf is not toxic I think

[forest raven]

https://twitter.com/shock_chb/status/1399149290803527682?s=21

Choihyobin (@Shock_CHB)

ggs @DallasFuel what is this meta

Likes

350

Twitter · May 30, 2021, 11:42 PM

[trail perch]

even tho the viol2t ms looked better than fd ngl

[forest raven]

[willow tartan]

Hell no

[earnest leaf]

what crack u on

[forest raven]

Doing a bit of trolling I see

[hot onyx]

So my nan convinced me to change my pred from Shock to Fuel and now I regret it

[willow tartan]

Shock lost on eichen only because of viol2t

your nan watches OWL?

[hot onyx]

Yeah

[willow tartan]

what team does she support

[hot onyx]

Fusion and Fuel

[tawdry hamlet]

how did doha and sparkle level up so hard in the off season is the real question

[willow tartan]

fusion more like dogshit

[hot onyx]

Dragons more like dragon a draw against the Valiant

[forest raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372558128170139649/848712876856442890/unknown.png

Fuck I love production

[tawdry hamlet]

valiant

that team sucks

people say "oh they aren't that bad you just want them to fail" or "you guys are blinded by the hate for immortals" but they have consistently never showed up ever

[tired zodiac]

hi can someone explain why every owl comp has an eco

[tawdry hamlet]

they play worse than s3 spitfire

[forest raven]

Because echo is fucking broken

And tracer and sombra are banned too

[hot onyx]

Is Highbee a main or off tank?

[forest raven]

And zen

[willow tartan]

contenders teams could wipe the floor with them

[noble nexus]

highbee is an OT

but he plays MS for whatever reason

[tawdry hamlet]

Just such a bruh moment to drop players, go to china, sign dogshit despite chinese contenders arguably being the strongest region in the world at that point with team cc. go 0-6 and just say oh well it made financial sense who cares

what an org

[noble nexus]

they also basically lied about why they moved lol

[tawdry hamlet]

like sure london suck but they were the best contenders team in the region so at least I can respect the pickups

[noble nexus]

tried to blame covid and visas

[mortal cipher]

it felt like forever

[noble nexus]

abused the leagues new clause that let them let go of their players without paying the salary payout

[mortal cipher]

legendary

[forest raven]

God

Imagine this game in front of a live crowd

[tawdry hamlet]

if they were going to china which is close to australia they should have somehow found a way to keep adam lmao

they would still suck

but at least he wouldn't be in contenders au jail

[forest raven]

I will never forgive valiant for screwing over adam

[mortal cipher]

valient london and Vacouver are the worse temas

[tawdry hamlet]

yes

[mortal cipher]

valient is just apac london

but maybe worse

[tawdry hamlet]

Titans and Valiant orgs are pure dog shit

[mortal cipher]

vancouver is slightly better

[willow tartan]

you know what

[tawdry hamlet]

tbh I think valiant are better than vancouver, fire is so out of his depth it is crazyh

[willow tartan]

we might actually see

live matches

[hot onyx]

Ah kinda shit then because I was gonna suggest move Silver3 to main support and put Highbee back on tank

[mortal cipher]

hard to pick but london is the worse

i used to think Boston was the worse then this happened

[tawdry hamlet]

nah London could actually beat vancouver in a tracer meta or rush based meta I think

[hot onyx]

Fire would be much better if his team wasn’t dog

[tawdry hamlet]

Vancouver is like a team of 4300s queuing together

[mortal cipher]

lol

these three teams are basically a comfirmed win

[noble nexus]

idk I still think they'd get further if they made highbee play MT instead lmfao

silver3 is baaaaad

mf doesn't know what being on high health feels like

[tawdry hamlet]

Vancouver was so desperate for players they picked up literally anyone who was a free agent lol

[hot onyx]

What role does the coach play?

[mortal cipher]

ouch

[noble nexus]

bro I couldn't even tell you the name of their coach

[tawdry hamlet]

the valiant coach was the former coach of the one winner or first fabulous fighter or something right?

[forest raven]

Who cares about these shit teams shock's back on top

Nature is healing

[tawdry hamlet]

all I know is, when packing10 can coach mcgravy to be better than this new off tank, something bad happening

[mortal cipher]

they arent back at the top yet

theyre at 5th

[forest raven]

In the standings sure but they just gapped dallas on monke brawl

[noble nexus]

packing10 was one of the best coaches in owl during 2020

kinda fucked up he had to go

[mortal cipher]

yeah in hero pools

[hot onyx]

Shock literally won that by the interior of an eggshell tf you mean “back at the top”?

[mortal cipher]

wasnt valient better with mcgravy

[forest raven]

The only map they lost was with viol2t on lucio against the best team in NA

[tawdry hamlet]

he was able to coach that roster up to top 5 so yes I agree

[hot onyx]

I can it is NvM and he is a tank player

[mortal cipher]

they almost lost every map

[forest raven]

Okay

[mortal cipher]

each map was a 50/50

[forest raven]

And Dallas almost won every map

But they didn't

They fucking lost

[noble nexus]

lmfao

[mortal cipher]

yeah it was a tight map is what i mean

[tawdry hamlet]

shock fans becoming golden state warriors fans again

happens every time shock wins one game

[forest raven]

[hot onyx]

Oh boy here comes the Shock fan ego

[mortal cipher]

both deserved to win it was a tight game

[forest raven]

I have two years of games to back up my ego

[mortal cipher]

a nei

[noble nexus]

tbf the shock have just beat the supposed best team in NA in their meta

[mortal cipher]

true

i guess

[noble nexus]

you can't argue with it

[mortal cipher]

yeah they won with hero pools which has been weird

[tawdry hamlet]

did shock play tracer when they lost to dallas last month or was that a reaper mirror

[mortal cipher]

i mean we have boston at 3rd

[mortal cipher]

ja

[noble nexus]

they never played tracer I don't think

[mortal cipher]

they lost with tracer

[forest raven]

I think shock played the least tracer out of all the top teams in may melee

They had no idea what to do

[noble nexus]

shock shitting the bed at the start of a season is iconic tbh

[forest raven]

But Crusty has put away the crack pipe

[mortal cipher]

strikers best hero is tracer

[noble nexus]

doesn't matter how good striker is at tracer if they don't understand how the meta works

[tawdry hamlet]

Crusty has put away the crack pipe and played echo instead of sombra and subbed super out

[mortal cipher]

true

and Dallas won without playing the meta

[noble nexus]

Crusty stopped smoking the good shit and stopped putting viol2t on dps

[mortal cipher]

yeah that was a bad choice

[tawdry hamlet]

if only Dallas still had xzi 😦

[noble nexus]

it worked against kevster on ping and thats it lol

[mortal cipher]

theyre getting pine tho

[noble nexus]

I don't doubt Pine but hitscan is stacked this season

[tawdry hamlet]

literally had him as my mvp candidate last year and then he retires

tragic

[hot onyx]

If only Dallas didn’t have a limited hero pool

[mortal cipher]

yeah was ans in mvp as well

[next mesa]

honestly if dallas still had xzi they wouldnt have to force sparkle on fuckin genji and wouldn've have gotten clapped by glister

[hot onyx]

Weirdly no it was Choi and Viol2t

[mortal cipher]

ah ok

[noble nexus]

straight fax

[tawdry hamlet]

Dorado is what happens when you don't contest a professional widowmaker lmao

[mortal cipher]

thats weird indeed

true

[tawdry hamlet]

literally just walked into his sight line like he wasn't going to just click them

[mortal cipher]

but aspires glister snipe tho

[noble nexus]

honestly if Glister plays like he did today every game he might actually give me a reason to keep him as my mvp candidate this season

but games like his toronto match just make me so sad

[tawdry hamlet]

just seemed like they made no attempt to dive or contest the widow at all and just ate it in the face

[mortal cipher]

whos in the mvp canidiates

i know theyre not up yet but still

[mortal cipher]

the aspire snipe was still kul given he was a rookie

[hot onyx]

Choi Viol2t Carpe Alarm Fleta Void Cr0ng Eileen Xzi and Yaki

[noble nexus]

aspire should probably solidify his spot at toronto

[next mesa]

glister wont be mvp candidate this year

[mortal cipher]

wasnt that last years

[noble nexus]

I can dream tho 😭

[mortal cipher]

aspire should not be temporary anymore

[hot onyx]

Shit that’s what I thought you asked, idfk who the MVP candidates are currently since it’s too early

[tawdry hamlet]

if any of you feel bad, I had mykaylee for rookie of the year because I thought his brain wasn't going to smack around the inside of his head in the few months before the season started

but it would appear to have done that

[noble nexus]

lmfao

[next mesa]

really mykaylee roty

💀

[mortal cipher]

i mean who do you think i guess or who would be

[noble nexus]

I had either Shu or Glister as my MVP candidates coming into this season

[tawdry hamlet]

I made that prediction pre season to be fair

so all we had seen was shanghai masters and valiant ball

[noble nexus]

pre season tourneys made mykaylee look good

[tawdry hamlet]

so we didn't have much to go on

[hot onyx]

Carpe Carpe Carpe Carpe Carpe Carpe Carpe GaeBullSsi Carpe and Carpe

[mortal cipher]

danteh looks insane

[mortal cipher]

lol

[tawdry hamlet]

and kaylee looked really good against diem, I just hadn't realized how much diem ashe had fallen off at the time lmao

then season came and shanghai with diem in took a shit

basically don't use someone as inconsistent as diem to gauge the power of his matchup he could either dominate or be destroyed regardless otherwise you end up with preds like mykaylee rookie of the year

[mortal cipher]

lol

oof

[tawdry hamlet]

I love diem because I love widow play and he is the best widow to play the game besides ans but how are people still saying shanghai is losing because lip is in, lip has literally been playing better

and lip actually has a mcree

[hot onyx]

Damn should’ve used your brain and predicted Valentine like me

[tawdry hamlet]

tragic

at least I didn't predict assassin

[hot onyx]

Or Mag le monke otp

[tawdry hamlet]

should have gone with someone from chengdu to be honest

but I didn't consider that

or spark, idk why I didn't just pile my stonks in a spark rookie prospect like lige or shy

[hot onyx]

I would’ve said someone like LiGe or Shy would’ve been a better choice

Oh sheee

[tawdry hamlet]

but shy was just a random academy team pickup out of nowhere right? so nobody really expected much

[hot onyx]

Plus LiGe is sadly permabenched

[tawdry hamlet]

indeed, yet another permabenched team cc player

[hot onyx]

Give LiGe to Chengdu or give Bernar to Seoul since their clown asses have a grudge against playing Toyou

Everyone wins

[next mesa]

Lige has mental health issues

[tawdry hamlet]

still sadge diya didn't get picked up

but at this point I don't even think he wanted to be

[next mesa]

except diya?

[tawdry hamlet]

I presume he replied to the wrong message

[next mesa]

yeah I think he was just too picky

[tawdry hamlet]

diya could have been on charge

[hot onyx]

Except Diya

[tawdry hamlet]

respect for not picking valiant as an easy sign though, that would be cringe

[hot onyx]

Sorry if it’s sort of insensitive to ask, but if LiGe has mental health problems then why did he accept the contract from the Spark?

[tawdry hamlet]

but imagine having 4 years of playing professionally, winning contenders china several times so essentially being the best t2 team in the world and being a key member of that team, and you go unsigned

franchised leagues moment

also having fluent chinese and korean loll

ridiculous

[hot onyx]

And someone like Dalton who can only speak English is in the league

Unless he secretly learned Greek

[tawdry hamlet]

tbf most of the bottom half of na doesn't deserve their spots

even na contenders has far better talent

[next mesa]

after he accepted I would assume

[hot onyx]

Elaborate

[next mesa]

uh like after he accepted the contract he developed mental health issues

or he thought that they would be resolved soon

[hot onyx]

Ahh ok

Seems fair enough

[tawdry hamlet]

a tragic reddit thread indeed

yeah guys this year is our year we got this

[hot onyx]

So did M1KA and Coldest just get tied up in a well or something?

[tawdry hamlet]

the apac teams lowkey went way too big with rosters for the actual amount of games we have and the lack of some heroes even having relevance

[quaint aurora]

Is super ever gonna play

I only see Choi and smurf

[tawdry hamlet]

like sure shock hoarded twilight for themselves but chengdu literally signed a 4 person support line that can all cover each others heroes just as good

he plays in rein meta

this is monke

[quaint aurora]

Ohhh

Yea I forgot about the rein ban

Rip

Smurf plays monkey right?

[tawdry hamlet]

yes

[quaint aurora]

Gotcha

[tawdry hamlet]

and ball if he is relevant sometimes I think

and then him and super swap out on road hog

[quaint aurora]

Yea I doubt they’re gonna put super in just for his hog

[tawdry hamlet]

and orisa can be either one I think

[hot onyx]

I’d rather have StandDumb on orisa than Super

[earnest leaf]

His orisa isn't bad

[hot onyx]

Cope

[earnest leaf]

just shock prefers smurf's playstyle on her

He won WC on her

[hot onyx]

Against Guxue orisa

[tawdry hamlet]

super himself isn't that bad, just a fun meme because western player stigma and like streamer memes

he is an A tier or higher rein at least

[earnest leaf]

I mean he is the best rein

And his other tanks are servicable

Surprisingly solid hog though

[tawdry hamlet]

not anymore, jjangu and fearless both looked far better on rein recently

[hot onyx]

Awesomeguy would like a word

[earnest leaf]

Nah don't let recency bias change your mind

Super looking bad on one map vs jjanggu doesn't make jjanggu better

And dallas as a whole was much stronger than shock that match

two games don't remove what super did for the last two seasons on rein

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah but by that logic anyone who had really good past seasons could still be called the best

[hot onyx]

Yeah dude, Supers brain is so large when he uses his earthshatters to deal 50 damage to the enemy team shield. Such a team player 🙏

[earnest leaf]

Again it's only two games lol

two games vs a season where he almost got mvp for his rein, and was still pretty dominant last season on it

[hot onyx]

Find me a clip where he hits a shatter and I’ll find your argument valid

[tawdry hamlet]

I just don't think he is the best rein anymore, he is still top tier but with all the new rein players I don't know if he still holds number 1

[forest raven]

Uh oh another person who takes the memes seriously

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372558128170139649/848680693759868938/YAWNN.gif

[earnest leaf]

show me a rein who consistently performs better than him for 3 seasons and I might care

[hot onyx]

Damn what that mouth do

[hot onyx]

Swon

[earnest leaf]

But yea people buy way too heavily into the streamer memes of super

[forest raven]

But flame

super didn't block one shatter one time so he's obviously the worst rein in the league

[tawdry hamlet]

literally said he isn't the best was all loll

[hot onyx]

https://youtu.be/l6aMLwfSD98

[forest raven]

[hot onyx]

How long you been a Shock fan for out of curiosity?

[tawdry hamlet]

all those old games remind me of when western majority rosters still existed

[forest raven]

Since season 1 @hot onyx

I started watching super in 2018 and that made me a fan of shock near the end of the season

[hot onyx]

Name the first play from Zebosai that comes to mind

[tawdry hamlet]

oh you're a shock fan, name every play smh

[forest raven]

I haven't thought of zebbo since 2019

I vaguely remember him throwing on hollywood

Or maybe that was cwoosh

[hot onyx]

Oh so you watch Overwatch League name the score of every match since April 2018

[forest raven]

[tawdry hamlet]

man s3 would have been so much better with cross season play, it was depressing watching the nyxl and spark not at homestands

cross region I mean

[forest raven]

Can you imagine all the bops in season 3 in front of a live crowd

[tawdry hamlet]

there were so many insane high points in that season

[earnest leaf]

headshot after headshot live on lan

imagine

[forest raven]

PARIS PHILLY

Imagine that game in Philadelphia

[hot onyx]

The EQO genji clutch on Rialto

[tawdry hamlet]

Seoul upsetting shanghai live on lan loll

[hot onyx]

Crowd would’ve been louder than a pack of fireworks

[forest raven]

Rascal's genji clutch on anubis

[tawdry hamlet]

Toronto somehow pulling out 4th in summer showdown despite being like 11th in standings or something

that run was very fun

Agilities tore through the lower teams

[hot onyx]

4th/3rd

Who says Toronto would’ve lost to Shock?

[tawdry hamlet]

iirc they even played surefour in that series

it is also wild that players I feel like have been gone forever literally played in like countdown cup

[hot onyx]

Pretty sure it was Agilities-Logix

[tawdry hamlet]

like babybay or surefour

it was

but iirc on a map they ran surefour

[forest raven]

If rona didn't happen corey and stratus might still be playing ow

[hot onyx]

Nah probably just the flex god Zykk

[tawdry hamlet]

lolol toronto only had enough money for one webcam, they haven't made enough prize money to afford more yet

[hot onyx]

I’m sorry

GiG Apply and KSF

Why

[tawdry hamlet]

apply was better than lastro at brig I guess

since rain was for some reason playing a dif hero

and then dreamer was out sick that match

[hot onyx]

Valiant was running brig lucio at one point

[tawdry hamlet]

because all the comments were like "where is dreamer!!!"

and then ksf was trying to force genji I guess instead of shax tracer?

[hot onyx]

KSP genji Shax tracer

Would’ve won the tournament

[tawdry hamlet]

ah yeah

[forest raven]

Remember when Glads collectively malded over Valiant's ashe comp

[tawdry hamlet]

gig has recently made his return to na contenders and he isn't anything amazing but he and shus money crew na are winning a lot of trials matches at least lol

[hot onyx]

Ok how bad was Lastros bap?

[tawdry hamlet]

he wasn't super great on ardour or darkmode though

idk

idk how rain could be better than lastro on a flex support but this was shortly after 2-2-2 right?

[hot onyx]

Not too shortly

2-2-2 role lock went to owl around season 2 stage 4/playoffs

Depends on your perception of time ig

[tawdry hamlet]

I didn't start watching owl nearly as consistently until covid I started watching weekly like the week after the last homestand 😦

but I caught up on a lot of older games and stuff

I knew bits and pieces from the second season though

since it was really big when they literally went on jimmy fallon in person loll

[tepid ibex]

Dreamer, Lastro and Shax weren't feeling well pretty sure

[next mesa]

viewership took a big hit after rona

never came back tbh

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah

[hot onyx]

Which feels odd to me

[tawdry hamlet]

I noticed that, I wondered why everyone acted like owl was huge when watching it from like april 2020 it felt like it wasn't even a professional game companies league it felt like a community tourney almost

like idk the scale of the league at this point feels like a fraction of what it was when players would come out to packed crowds doing dances and shit

miss that

[hot onyx]

More free time thanks to le virus surely = more initiative to watch the matches right?

[forest raven]

A lot of revenue was banked on homestands

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah that too, league hasn't been profitable in ages

[forest raven]

Andy Miller said Shock was gonna start turning a profit with homestands in 2020

And then

You know

[shadow dagger]

I think OWL will definitely be profitable or close to neutral next year

[forest raven]

And Shock is an inaugural team with the 20 million buy in

Expansion team buy ins were 2-3x that

40 million at a minimum

[tawdry hamlet]

indeed

[shadow dagger]

We gotta realize that this is like watching the NFL in 1975

[forest raven]

And all the potential revenue streams from homestands vanished

No wonder so many teams are full budget

Only a few of the teams have fuck you money

[tawdry hamlet]

the few that aren't full budget are the only ones that win enough to justify not being full budget, even teams that pick up insane rosters like washington always cheap out at some spot like with supports

[forest raven]

And even teams that do have fuck you money still went budget

Like NY

And Charge

[tawdry hamlet]

meanwhile in china where mega corps own all the teams and not just rich white guys they invest in full ass 12 man rosters where half are never played

spark for example

that bilibili money go brr

[hot onyx]

Yo I’d love to get 50k invested into me for me to sit on the bench

[tawdry hamlet]

the teams in na that didn't go budget like dallas are owned by big corps too, dallas is owned by a big oil group or some shit iirc

[digital cloud]

man I'm pissed about ow numbers

[forest raven]

Dallas is owned by Envy, but has an investment from a Dallas based financier in the energy sector

[tawdry hamlet]

ah they are owned by an investor from that sector

yes

[digital cloud]

valorant got 1mil+ viewers today from masters 2

I remember when ow used to have huge numbers

[forest raven]

Philly and Atlanta have fuck you ISP money

[digital cloud]

teams don't even care now

[forest raven]

Glads has fuck you football team money

[raw ermine]

one of the co-owners of DF has like 800M dollars

[tawdry hamlet]

Boston also has fuck you football money

loll

[raw ermine]

Hastros a multimillionaire

[forest raven]

Shock has fuck you NBA team money

And even then they were only going to start turning a profit from homestands

[hot onyx]

And yet Atlanta keeps Gator

[forest raven]

[tawdry hamlet]

meanwhile chengdu and spark have fuck you big ass streaming site money

then there is London literally owned by cloud9 and going full budget 2 seasons in a row

[forest raven]

C9 doesn't give a fuck about ow

[tawdry hamlet]

or cs anymore loll

[raw ermine]

how is a 12 man roster budget tho?

with 4 coaches

[hot onyx]

And New York has small ass T-Mobile money since they already spent their budget sponsoring owl as a whole but knew they could get something from New York’s desperation

[tawdry hamlet]

homestands in big markets would have at least made it profitable

if new york could host in new york or la host in la

ez profit

[forest raven]

Philly fans in Philly

FRENCH FANS

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah philly being right next to all the major east coast cities and also itself being a major city

big ol market

[hot onyx]

Oh god don’t I’m a Philly fan and the mix of wholesome passion and pure toxicity would be overwhelming

[tawdry hamlet]

I remember the linkzr houston homestand drama loll

[hot onyx]

What drama? Blasè mcree was ballin’

[tawdry hamlet]

when people got kicked out for allegedly yelling at linkzrs wife or something weird like that idk it was years ago

[hot onyx]

Linkzr’s straight?

Thought my mans was ace

[tawdry hamlet]

[raw ermine]

linkzr's been married since like 2019

[tawdry hamlet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/arsf46/linkzrs_fiancée_harassed_by_audience_at_the_arena/

[raw ermine]

there is a freshnuts video on it

[tawdry hamlet]

ah classic reddit post

[hot onyx]

Ah my bad, thought he went celibate so he would have more time practicing the widow 1v1s at the end of the year

[tawdry hamlet]

the fact that the best 1v1 duel na got was linkzr and soon is depressing

surely

there are better widows in na that don't choke 1v1s like kai did

pretty sure dalton was semi finals too after beating colorhex

man what a bracket that was

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/imAVRL/status/1399100429032509440

AVRL (@imAVRL)

Just wanted to announce that I am officially ahead of @AchiliosCasts in pickems now

Likes

159

Twitter · May 30, 2021, 8:28 PM

casters do have there own pickems

bro I have 150 points sign me to broadcast

[tawdry hamlet]

I missed a week so I only have 132 😦

tragic

[raw ermine]

achilios did as well

[tawdry hamlet]

oh well actually I only missed knockouts so if I had got all those right I would only have 138 which puts me 6th

I vaguely remember surefour playing at least one map around june-august last year but I cannot for the life of me find it now

time to graze over every regular season matchup in that period lets goo

all I have found so far is zykk sombra

[raw ermine]

fck LAG vs paris is gonna be hard to predict

zykk sombra season 3
heesu sombra season 4

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[tawdry hamlet]

honestly with heesu philly got remarkably far

idk if I underrate heesu because he mostly played tracking heroes and not long range last season

but I can never tell how good he is

cursed lineups

[raw ermine]

mega cursed

[tawdry hamlet]

Dallas really hurt crimzo stonks

but he has been bringing them back up slowly

[raw ermine]

thank junkbuck for that

[tawdry hamlet]

Dallas flopping last year really aided the Houston surprise

surprised how underrated of a pick up happy was

nobody seemed super high on happy stonks when the happy to linkzr diff is fat

[next mesa]

lol

[raw ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-delivery-community-fire-gif-5219358

me after this

[tawdry hamlet]

I found a game where Vancouver took Toronto to map 5 with dalton on genji lmaoo

[raw ermine]

oh yes...

indeed

[tawdry hamlet]

it was 99-99 last point too lmao

[raw ermine]

somehow we came 4th despite

that

[tawdry hamlet]

toronto with agilities almost lost to dalton

but tbf later season vancouver once they got synergy going was actually playing well

they won like 3 series in the last month of s3 which was fun

[forest raven]

Man I'm just so happy for Smurf, Glister and FD

[upper niche]

Later in the thead Achillios points out he missed a whole week of predictions 😄

[raw ermine]

yeah, I mentioned that

[upper niche]

I'm at 115 points, but missed a couple of rounds, and also the knockout predictions was confusing as hell.

ie, they had it open for a period but then you couldn't change your predictions once you submitted, but there were teams listed that we weren't sure yet would even make the playoffs, so like... were they going to change it to exclude teams that won't be participating? Who knows!

[raw ermine]

tbf, nobody got any meaningful points from the knockouts

https://twitter.com/LiNkzrOW/status/1399111751057113091

LiNkzr (@LiNkzrOW)

Im in pain

Likes

684

Twitter · May 30, 2021, 9:13 PM

[forest raven]

[tawdry hamlet]

Knockouts I lost as well

Honestly this season, titans dps line has actually surprised me while the rest of the team minus maybe sometimes frd has vastly disappointed me

Idk why I expected fire to be better than car but I figured like it can't get worse than that right because at least fire was on an owl team

Then it happened loll

[rough sand]

L

[tawdry hamlet]

Cuffa an au contenders players has a cursed liquidpedia photo lmao

[supple prism]

on a scale of 1-chipsa, how bad is that image?

[tawdry hamlet]

Chipsas picture is iconic

Literally the most unflattering photo they could have done

Legendary

[slow lodge]

a true legend

100% winrate on Doom

[tawdry hamlet]

Name one player with a 100 percent win rate besides chipsa bet you can't smh

Best flex of all time

[earnest leaf]

iddqd

[trail perch]

Dayfly?

[supple prism]

fragi

no i think he lost some

[trail perch]

Def not fragi

He was the starter stage 1-3

Maybe kyb

[tawdry hamlet]

I forgot at one point Dallas had xqc rascal and custa and seagull

it was only for like a month that they were all on the team since their leaving and joinings overlapped

but I imagine that would have been a funny roster

now that I think about it Dallas ran onigod and paintbrush over decay and closer granted decay didn't still want to play just funny

[trail perch]

Dallas ran paintbrush over closer full time after they aquired him

thats trippy to think about

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah I didn't actually remember they even had closer I just thought it was paintbrush who is worse than the majority of na t2 ms as their guy

lowkey paintbrush made crimzo look a lot worse than he is ngl

ayy ans is streaming ow
https://www.twitch.tv/ansansniper

[dark hedge]

damn shock 3-1'd dallas?

was dallas struggling or was shock playing out of their minds

[tawdry hamlet]

it was a super close series except on Dorado where they didn't contest glister and he got several multikills and destroyed them

[dark hedge]

damn i should watch the vod

[tawdry hamlet]

ans widow is still cracked as ever lets go

haven't watched him play in a fat minute

[stuck radish]

ans come back

pls

[willow tartan]

when did seoul win

[tawdry hamlet]

it was a roster joke

[willow tartan]

o

[tawdry hamlet]

[willow tartan]

wait both of them are full korean?

i thought nero was america

[tawdry hamlet]

he is but it was a close enough joke

[stuck radish]

only korean players (aside from nero) were played in the game

[tawdry hamlet]

fdgod too

[stuck radish]

yea him too

[willow tartan]

fdgod is french?

[tawdry hamlet]

ans on soldier lets goo

[willow tartan]

??

ans play?

[tawdry hamlet]

he is streaming ow atm

first time I have seen him play it in a long time

[stuck radish]

ans needs to carry shock again

pls ans

[willow tartan]

ans is ashe pro

[tawdry hamlet]

the fact ans is playing better on soldier than mcree kind of shows he has been grinding valorant lmao

[willow tartan]

yea

his tracking look like aimbot

thats smooth

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder why happy is on echo and not hitscan

must just be trying it out

[willow tartan]

maybe he like to play video game

in off time

[slow lodge]

lmfao

[tawdry hamlet]

I guess, but if I was one of the best hitscans in the world I would probably focus entirely on that role hard

[willow tartan]

ans widow

[stuck radish]

super plays dva on stream sometimes

OWL players need to have fun occasionally you know

[willow tartan]

yes

nothing wrong with it

because ranked is entirely separate from OWL

[tawdry hamlet]

they are playing overwatch, how are they having fun

[willow tartan]

playing ranked wont affect OWL

some pros dont even touch rank

[tawdry hamlet]

"joobi what's gold deaths at" loll

watching pros stream is good fun

[forest raven]

super live

[slow lodge]

this a private server? Where can I aquire this emote?

[forest raven]

I just uploaded it to my own server

[slow lodge]

damn

okay, I stole it

was just wondering if there was a Super server

or something like that

[forest raven]

super does have his own discord server

[slow lodge]

oo

can u dm link please?

[tired zodiac]

whats r yalls opinion on glister

[slow lodge]

I think he did really good

but he got hard dps diff'd against Aspire

[tired zodiac]

yea that rlly sucked

i ws rlly surprised to see aspire play that well

[forest raven]

Glister fucking slapped Dallas into the dirt

[tired zodiac]

map 2 ws nuts

[slow lodge]

he made Sparkle useless

was crazy

[willow tartan]

glister fucks

[next mesa]

Man if only Dallas had some hitscan

[gilded carbon]

sparkle picking genji helped

[cursive plover]

This is honestly not surprising

This map rotation favors hitscan especially in escort maps

Buuuut I have faith

[little tusk]

dallas needs pine

pine time

[mortal abyss]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/nof848/translation_of_bits_from_alarms_interview_with_ybt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Cool interview

[slow lodge]

[tawdry hamlet]

Was fire only a brig player on Atlanta?

[balmy wolf]

yes

[tawdry hamlet]

Then why did Vancouver think he was worth the whole Ms role lolol

[noble nexus]

idk vancouver willingly kept roolf

I'm not even sure its possible to figure that team out

[plush grail]

titans offered minimum contract fire said yes

[tawdry hamlet]

😭

Should've signed coulge smh

[plush grail]

Swap to left handed mouse

Or stop speaming

[rare parcel]

I might be stupid but why don't OWL players play more McCree

the hero is broken rn they should probably abuse it

[balmy wolf]

lol

[tawdry hamlet]

They do echo and ashe and reaper are just also strong

In rush they played cree always

[noble nexus]

cree is kinda crippled when roll is on cooldown

[cursive plover]

also with less flankers in this meta (because of the current hero pool) and ashe being able to deal with echo cree just kinda stands there

[willow drum]

who would win

between the boston v paris

[balmy wolf]

boston

[little tusk]

PARIS

PARIS

PARIS

[hot onyx]

I have a Boston 3-0 down

But it’ll be one of those matches where the performance says more than the score

Since there’s only so much deadlifting Naga and Kaan are capable of

[wanton birch]

are atlanta and houston locked for the june joust ?

[hot onyx]

Pretty much yeah

3-1 is pretty much a guarantee

Unless you get extremely unlucky with the map differential

[wanton birch]

also looks like boston will be making it

which is insane looking at what their schedule was

[raw ermine]

- The best player on fusion is himself. After himself it's Carpe-Alarm

[willow drum]

For the East

Knockouts

It's 1 v 3 and then 2 v 4 (seeds)

correct?

[hot onyx]

Humble

[balmy wolf]

the schedule was meh tbh

considering how bad justice is in this meta

still 2 free wins

[mighty pivot]

Hey wait, I was watching the matches cause i couldn't yesterday and shock 3/1 dallas?

(this is a joke ok)

TORONTO IS AS GOOD AS DALLAS?

Dallas 1/3 against shock toronto 1/3 against shock???

Huh?

[plush bridge]

same score is not equal to same skill

[mighty pivot]

100% is

so it goes shock > dallas - toronto

[mortal abyss]

That shock Dallas game was insanely close

[tropic herald]

• Mano is very good at surviving on his own because he's used to it. He runs away sometimes even when he's getting healed.

From that Alarm interview

[mighty pivot]

mmmmmmmmmmmm same score same skill

[devout path]

If same score equals same skill you just said shock>0

[noble nexus]

pretty sure vancouver took more maps against paris than washington

but you can't try to tell me vancouver are better than washington

[worn falcon]

LAV > Vanc

[trail perch]

honestly yeah

thats not a hot take

LAV would be prob mid tier in NA

Low mid tier but still

def better than like london and vanc

[cursive plover]

do ya'll think NA has a higher skill range than APAC? As in the worst of NA are worse than the worst of APAC and the best of NA and APAC trade blows depending on the match and meta. I guess I kinda answered my own question but any opinions?

[balmy wolf]

apac overrated tbh

[tropic herald]

i think the lower end of apac is better than the lower end of na but also the higher end of na is better than the higher end of apac imo rn

[balmy wolf]

yes

[cursive plover]

Yeah I agree that rn high-end NA seems stronger

[tropic herald]

but also it makes perfect sense bc the strong na teams actually have more strong teams to scrim so they can get better than the apac teams who cant really avoid scrimming bad or mid teams

[cursive plover]

Mmm

[next mesa]

LAV would not be mid tier in NA come on

I doubt they are better than london seriously

if they are, barely

[trail perch]

they are better than london by a nice margin across every role

[noble nexus]

LAV wouldn't be mid tier NA

[trail perch]

Low mid tier

[noble nexus]

they'd be above london and vancouver

[trail perch]

they would beat vanc and london every time

Which makes them not bottom tier

[noble nexus]

and that's literally it

[trail perch]

so low mid

[noble nexus]

high low

I refuse to give LAV any credit

even if they deserve it

[plush grail]

Paris beat the justice

[willow drum]

Yeah so Vancouver worst team

JUST LIKE

2020

feels bad

I think Vancouver has the highest win and lose streak

Ah wait Shanghai has the highest loss streak

[tropic herald]

London has a long loss streak

[barren quest]

What's London's loss streak so far

[raw ermine]

this season, 8, including last season, lemme check

19 streak, 20 if you count the steelseries match

last win was a 3-0 against HZS s3

[mortal abyss]

Yeah apac teams barely have scrim partners especially during hero bans when they can't scrim contenders teams

[ivory mason]

i just watched shock vs dallas

and damn that game was fun

[karmic grotto]

closest 1-3/3-1 ever

[earnest leaf]

titans would beat valiant

London though i'm not 100% sure on

but even then blase could echo diff them

[devout path]

i think

[earnest leaf]

but yea

Valiant would be bottom tier in NA

[devout path]

in non tracer meta

titans valiant london

[earnest leaf]

Also let's not forget paris

they are still dogshit

[balmy wolf]

true

[arctic yew]

Vancouver is just sad

[slow lodge]

yeah :l

[arctic yew]

its like the entire team doesn't want to play

That Dallas vs SF match was amazing

||Anubis being a draw was amazing it really showed how skilled these teams are||

[slow lodge]

Was very nice to see Glister frag

[arctic yew]

yea

[slow lodge]

though I predicted 3-2 Dallas

so rip my pickems

[arctic yew]

oof

[slow lodge]

these hero bans really hurt Dallas

[arctic yew]

I am shock fan so I predicted it 3-2 Shock

yea

[slow lodge]

That Primal juggle by Smurf onto Jecse

[arctic yew]

also XZI not being there hurt them

[slow lodge]

yeah, for sure

[arctic yew]

Smurf was insane

So was Fearless tho

I think the reason Dallas lost was due to not having hitscan

Who do you think is the worst player in the league?

[earnest leaf]

Nah shock outpaced them on their comp straight up

Hitscan was only an issue on dorado

And even then sparkle was getting zero value on genji and never swapped

[slow lodge]

^

[arctic yew]

good point

I honestly think Fire on Vancouver is the worst player in the league

[hot onyx]

Bold comment when Viol2t exists

Can’t even play ana at a top 10 level smh

[trail perch]

Literally no way

Molanran

Is just better

Krystal would just sit on every single hitscan they have

Honestly silver3 is better than hadi

Molf1g prob better than showcheng

But somehow highbee wya is at least a good step above kellex ripa

[earnest leaf]

nah i'd still bet on london winning

also i've watched silver3 play

hadi is dogshit

But still better than him

and in the end valiant still has only taken one map off of a team

[next mesa]

silver3 is not better than hadi bro

im fuckin better than silver3

blase actually has a decent echo

[devout path]

at least kellex can play support

[noble nexus]

I mean Kellex literally doesn't have any competition from highbee

wya is better than ripa tho

[kind ridge]

now now dont get ahead of yourself

[mortal abyss]

Roolf??

[next mesa]

silver3 is silver

im gold

😎

[kind ridge]

any valiant player except krystal or wya?

think about it

[noble nexus]

or molanran when he plays tracer

[kind ridge]

only thing he can play lmao

[noble nexus]

literally

its quite sad honestly

[kind ridge]

make a team out of the worst players and i guarantee most will be from valiant

[next mesa]

lets see

highbee roolf silver3

whos worst, molf1g or

[raw ermine]

worst dps, prolly dalton