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gaunt acorn
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that isn't how it works

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earnest leaf
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I mean you talk consistently for a few weeks in the discord and you get the role pretty easily, at least it's what I've seen pretty often

hot onyx
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I’ve been talking consistently here for a couple months now

noble nexus
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idk just get gud or something

hot onyx
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I’m just gonna rely on others to send my images through dms since regular is a luxury that I am not worthy of

gaunt acorn
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you can just link an image

noble nexus
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"I'm in love with muze" - Danny 2021

hot onyx
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Yeah but I’m dumb and a mobile user

noble nexus
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gotchu broski

hot onyx
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Thanks chad

noble nexus
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np big guy

fast tusk
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Can atlanta still get in the jj if they beat titans

hot onyx
fast tusk
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No

hot onyx
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And since they’re currently 2-1 winning puts them at 3-1 so it’d take a lot for them not to make it to the knockouts

earnest leaf
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Granted if you talk in a popular chat

noble nexus
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honestly don't think I've ever talked in general or #overwatch and I have regular

hot onyx
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Only used general once and here the rest

upper niche
hot onyx
noble nexus
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yeah those are Sans'

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although mine are the same

hot onyx
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Smart minds think alike

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Except for east where I thought Valiant would take a map over Dragons and forgot to change the pred of NYXL winning 3-1

noble nexus
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I did that too

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the nyxl thing

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not the valiant thing

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I'm not that dumb

hot onyx
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I thought Shanghai would get cocky and run WhoRU Diem and Molly at the same time

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And Valiant would capitalise on it

noble nexus
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I'm going to be honest

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valiant could run their entire roster on off roles and still win 3-0

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shanghai*

kind ridge
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they shouldve tbh

noble nexus
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valiant are hot ass

willow tartan
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diem molly and whoru is peak overwatch

noble nexus
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silver3 hasn't had full since he came out the fuckin womb

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wya has a sore back

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their main support is an off tank

kind ridge
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lul

noble nexus
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I'd be surprised if they ever look not bad against any half decent team

hot onyx
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It’s not like I predicted a Valiant match win

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Just get a cheeky map like they did against Hunters

noble nexus
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pretty sure that was hunters being garbage

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also molanran tracer

willow tartan
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It was hunters throwing

noble nexus
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that map was a fluke

kind ridge
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in all of cn contenders they cant pick up an actual ms

noble nexus
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no they could

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but that'd cost more than 50k

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and the org is too dogshit for that

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its sad for the players

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because they don't deserve it

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well except krystal

kind ridge
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they could just say no

willow tartan
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still getting paid more than being in contenders lol

noble nexus
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they'll have been paid more for being a valiant player than being in tendies

hot onyx
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Imagine Valiant with Carpe Rascal GaeBullSsi Hotba Mano Tobi and Alarm

noble nexus
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that team would still lose to hangzhou

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l0l

kind ridge
hot onyx
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Yeah but Hangzhou has the SeoMinSoo diff

noble nexus
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hangzhou are just cracked

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also

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shy

kind ridge
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they will make the tournament

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putting that in rn

mighty pivot
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Wait who won?

noble nexus
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glads

mighty pivot
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i know the sf shock beat toronto

kind ridge
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how was aspire

hot onyx
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I wouldn’t be so sure about HZ making it to Hawaii yet

mighty pivot
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Aspire pop off

noble nexus
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Aspire was fucking insane

kind ridge
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ok

mighty pivot
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he was so good

hot onyx
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Aspire neat

mighty pivot
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He kept winning widow duels

noble nexus
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aspire dominated glister for the first half of the match

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tbf glister was having a terrible game

kind ridge
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is he good enough for defiant to keep him

noble nexus
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definitely

mighty pivot
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Yes

noble nexus
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they're throwing if they don't keep him tbh

hot onyx
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Uuuhhhhhh idk

mighty pivot
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He is giving logix a run for his money

hot onyx
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Heesu

kind ridge
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toronto please keep him

hot onyx
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Kinda nutty

noble nexus
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he's miles better than logix

hot onyx
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Plus the language barrier

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Oh god yeah if he replaces Logix huuge upgrade

mighty pivot
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He beat the person considered to be the best hitscan on a new team, plus no scrims, and he popped off. I think they got a jem.

kind ridge
mighty pivot
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he is good

noble nexus
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keep aspire and bench logix

mighty pivot
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Naist has to stay

kind ridge
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4 dps no prob

mighty pivot
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hhahaha

noble nexus
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pull a shock and have 11 dps players

willow tartan
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philly below valiant

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seems about right

hot onyx
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Shut

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They hit shuffle on the standings

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Forgetting there’s an eSports league to play

noble nexus
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rascal tracer can't carry them

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unfortunate tbh

hot onyx
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Rascal echo improves

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They thought NYXL and Hunters were scrim games and forgot they were being broadcast

willow tartan
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dragons 3-0 dynasty

hot onyx
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Dynasty 3-2 Dragons

earnest leaf
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I give up on apac preds

hot onyx
earnest leaf
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so 3-0 dragons ez

willow tartan
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ezpz

hot onyx
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Dragons management scuffed they benched their best player for Lip smh

willow tartan
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more diem playtime yes.

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when double hitscan meta

hot onyx
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Diem over Lip for ashe meta

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Instant 3-0 against every team every time

willow tartan
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should be but lip plays over him a lot

hot onyx
willow tartan
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diem needs more playtime to get more comfortable

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no other way to build up that synergy

hot onyx
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Diem on support like Jake

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Synergy

willow tartan
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better do it now than in important tournaments you know?...

hot onyx
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Instant

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He did

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Personally would prefer Heesu but Aspire looking rather schweet

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Put him on Titans with a fresh new flex support and they would be revitalised

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Boombox Titans

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Would be a stellar upgrade to Roolf despite him being the best fs in the league Roolf needs to go to Dallas or some top level team where he can pop off unhinged

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
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Is the :OmegaLul: regarding Boombox or the support god Roolf?

tawdry hamlet
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😎 obviously boombox

hot onyx
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Glad we’re on the same page

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Fusion University wouldn’t have dropped a map if they didn’t have Boombox weighing them down

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Nico was right

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And the rest of YaB were left in the dust

mighty pivot
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I think aspire popped

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
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Yeah dude, still waiting for FRDWNR to play hitscan so that they actually win though

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They’re just intentionally making him off role until they secretly pull the money to sign Clestyn so Frd can play hitscan and get multiple victories instead of pretending to be bad so that other teams think they have a chance

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Anyway 1:39 am would be a smart time to be sleeping so zzz

tropic herald
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Shock doubters o7

next mesa
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wheres the clip

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of aspire

trail perch
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i think dallas is head and shoulders above everyone else

next mesa
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I got itt

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yes

tropic herald
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to quote bren and sideshow

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shock dont have their killer instinct

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next mesa
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THANKS

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Dallas so good

sullen berry
earnest leaf
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I think so long as Shock doesn't get overwhelmed by Dallas's tempo in dive, shock can just one trick double shield and win

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and shock looked their worst today when glister was getting omega dicked on in the widow duel

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And dallas isn't going to force a hitscan mirror

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But I mean watch their dive on offense of hanamura

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They looked clean

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But I can very easily see dallas playing too fast and overwhelming shock

slow lodge
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Yeah

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Glister wasn't doing so good

earnest leaf
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he looked bad on widow, but solid on ashe

fair birch
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aspire was sort of diffing glister

fierce ferry
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Ye he shut him down completely on junkertown

hollow bough
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I cant watch the game atm but how is it so far?

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wait a sec, wasnt valiant a west team?

tawdry hamlet
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Yes they dumped their roster and went east

hollow bough
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huh. i didnt know that

sullen berry
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Valiant moved to the west with one the worst teams since the original 0-4 shanghai, now this team has some glimpses of getting map wins but not a full match anytime soon

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Haha... Unless....?

hot onyx
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I better see a map win here or else my pickems will be very upset

tawdry hamlet
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Loll

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It's hopeless, people were saying way back "you guys are biased this valiant isn't even that bad" when they literally have 2 owl level players

hot onyx
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I am convinced that Silver3 is just some random kid in gold that is being paid in Cadbury’s chocolate to play for a “professional” team

little tusk
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ohh seoul vs shanghai now

hot onyx
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At least Seoul got this dub

little tusk
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are u sure?

willow tartan
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Dragons 3-0

little tusk
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Will Diem play (no he wont)

willow tartan
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(yes he will)

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if they run ashe they should run diem

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why would they not run diem

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literally no reason

little tusk
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but do they?

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cuz Lip better

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🙂

willow tartan
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no

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diem ashe >

little tusk
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shanghai disagrees

willow tartan
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no trust

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diem will play

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ill call the coaches rn to put him in

little tusk
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oof

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yikes

willow tartan
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hm lijang

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lipfist poggers

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man i dont get it they put fleta on mccree and then soldier

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wheres diem

little tusk
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diem sucks dude

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I'm sorry

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Lip is just better in every way

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and shanghai knows this

willow tartan
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no, if that were the case then shd wouldn't have resigned him

little tusk
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he's just backup I guess

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in case Lip cant play

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told u Lip would be on ashe

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Lip's just better than Diem

willow tartan
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are you serious

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a nano reaper tpd right in front of izayaki and gets the kill

slow lodge
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wtf

willow tartan
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???

ivory mason
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3 MAN REMECH KILL

slow lodge
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wtf

mortal abyss
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VOID WHAT THE FUCK

slow lodge
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wtf

ivory mason
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WTF

slow lodge
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wtf

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wtf

willow tartan
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Wtf

slow lodge
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wtf

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wtf

ivory mason
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I NEED TO SEE THAT

willow tartan
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Triple remech kill

slow lodge
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replay that shit

willow tartan
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run it back

ivory mason
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literally won them the fight without even using any ults

willow tartan
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well remech is an ult.

slow lodge
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why is that even in the game

willow tartan
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Void has been abusing remech

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Like the pro gamer he is

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He's got like 8 remech kills this match

slow lodge
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I want this to be a 3-2 for the Dragons

willow tartan
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absolutely nutty

slow lodge
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wow

willow tartan
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dragons 3-0 easy

slow lodge
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i could see this 3-0 tho

ivory mason
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void mvp of the game

willow tartan
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fkn hell dude

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MVP from remech kills alone

hot onyx
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📞Hey Seoul? Toyou here. The bench is cold.

ivory mason
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seoul thinks this is last season where you can just play gesture hog

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and win everything

willow tartan
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next is eichenwalde right

ivory mason
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no

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2cp

willow tartan
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o

hot onyx
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Vokskya iirc

willow tartan
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watch the dragons draw again

ivory mason
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its the same map pool as the nyxl one

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so whatever they played

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idk what they did play tho

willow tartan
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o

hot onyx
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Ah Anubis then

ivory mason
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anubis is a good dragon map

willow tartan
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5 remech kills on that map

ivory mason
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control center was a throw from shanghai

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lets be honest

willow tartan
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I still don't understand

ivory mason
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putting fleta on mcree when you can play lip on mcree and whoru on doom was dumb

willow tartan
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They put fleta on mcree and soldier

ivory mason
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fleta probably got bored of constantly playing echo

willow tartan
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lmao

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his echo is goated though

ivory mason
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thats why he keeps bringing out the torb aswell

vagrant cargo
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Seoul just mediocre as usual

ivory mason
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imagine having an offtank and playing marvel on zarya

golden fulcrum
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Doesnt dragons have 2 points?

willow tartan
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how did ljg die to

ivory mason
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man leejaygon went for the rez

willow tartan
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wait

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it does say 1

ivory mason
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and died

willow tartan
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wtf lol

golden fulcrum
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Yeah, weird lol

willow tartan
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That was a ljg moment

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They should've full held

ivory mason
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sigh

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could have full held

willow tartan
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yeah he was in valk too

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just fly away from it

golden fulcrum
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Welp

ivory mason
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just ljg things i guess

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you either make a hero play or you do a dumb thing

willow tartan
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man don't you love 2cp

ivory mason
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he has no middle ground

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i kinda like 2cp tbh

willow tartan
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I was joking about Shanghai drawing...

golden fulcrum
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I like 2cp, but im not sad it's going tbh

ivory mason
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push plays like its gonna be a chore to play

golden fulcrum
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Yeah it does, push for half the game lose 1 team battle then all your effort is useless

little tusk
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who tf likes 2cp

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2cp is only fun if u watch 2 organized teams play it

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playing 2cp is hell

ivory mason
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fate on orisa is the reason why they picked up fate

hollow bough
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unfortunate to see my favorite team get fucked this hard

ivory mason
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seoul?

golden fulcrum
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Seuol?

hollow bough
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YES

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caps

ivory mason
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HOW DID IZAYAKI BUILT A NANO THIS QUICK

golden fulcrum
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I mean sure they are losing but they aren't getting rolled

hollow bough
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they're close games, but its hard to watch them lose is all

willow tartan
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Dude Shanghai... I was joking about you drawing

hollow bough
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lol

ivory mason
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well they drawing now

willow tartan
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I want to see Shanghai's draw rate on 2cp

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They have more draws than wins

ivory mason
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izayaki won them that map

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that ana switch

willow tartan
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"won"

ivory mason
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okay

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"draw"

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them that map

hollow bough
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i need to see more out of seoul tanks

willow tartan
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we wouldn't been here if ljg didn't do a gamer :(

ivory mason
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well you take the good with the bad with him

willow tartan
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It happens

ivory mason
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fk the draw

uneven saffron
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no draw :c

ivory mason
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they losing

willow tartan
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noo

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my preds

ivory mason
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my preds are perfect right now

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i had a 3-1

willow tartan
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Shanghai so had that 3-0

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sadge

golden fulcrum
uneven saffron
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sometimes I forget to turn off the chat and my eyes bleed

little tusk
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wait

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why is seoul gone

willow tartan
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unlucky, unlucky.

little tusk
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lmao

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oh nvm I'm reatrded

ivory mason
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my asia preds are 10/10

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i only have one wrong pred and that is the atlanta vs glads one

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i picked the right score but for the wrong teams

uneven saffron
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gesture never gives up

golden fulcrum
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That camera made me feel sick

weak bolt
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Fleta looks like he's playing at 3am with music blaring and just farming SR

slow lodge
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This is sad

weak bolt
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At least Seoul are consistently inconsistent

slow lodge
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Zzzz

real gyro
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Tank diff

karmic grotto
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Nerf that dva remech

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bs

fervent acorn
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it's a mech falling at high speed, why would it do 50dmg xD

slow lodge
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Bruh

noble nexus
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saying that like anything in this game makes sense

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sigma can defy gravity

slow lodge
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Don't apply common sense

weak bolt
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NA > Apac confirmed

slow lodge
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Yep

forest raven
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What's na comp

weak bolt
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Orisa Sigma rather than Monkey dva

ivory mason
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orisa dva and orisa sigma

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why would you play dive into that ever

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unless your dives are like fuel , where they just ignore the orisa and go ahead

weak bolt
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Apac just always wants to play Dive, so if a team can be good at orisa/sigma there, they'll do good

ivory mason
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yea

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june joust will be fun if dallas continues to run dive

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with genji

forest raven
hot onyx
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YO I FORGOT TO CHANGE MY PRED FROM 3-0 TO 3-1 FOR THE NYXL GAME ABSOLUTE POGGERS

ivory mason
forest raven
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Dallas 3-1

hot onyx
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My nan says Dallas 3-2

forest raven
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Nan Hmm

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She may have a gigabrain

hot onyx
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She has an omegabrain

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She predicted Dallas to beat Shock in the MM knockouts

forest raven
hot onyx
radiant hazel
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did gb play today?

ivory mason
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gb?

formal hinge
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Did anyone say Seoul Vs Shanghai todah

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On eichenwalde and the Anubis map gesture was basically throwing

tropic herald
forest token
# weak bolt NA > Apac confirmed

apac really really really likes to run dive and is also extremely good at it, when in doubt they're going to favor those comps more

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na on the other hand is much more willing to switch comps, so they were much more receptive to how busted broken op orisa is this patch

stuck sparrow
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That void dva 3k on the remech may just be the stupidest thing I’ve witnessed

devout path
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Wut

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Dva 3k?

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With remech?

stuck sparrow
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Shanghai vs seoul

ebon aurora
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predictions for Dallas v Shock - I thought Shock looked a bit shaky against Defiant

devout path
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Dallas dive one tricks

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Gonna be fun match

barren quest
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They have played double shield before iirc

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At least in May Melee

cursive plover
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hanbin sig 👀

raw ermine
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I am going 3-1 shock

next mesa
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3-1 Dallas lol easy

noble nexus
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3-2 dallas

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assuming shock don't get bent over too hard by the dive

next mesa
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Shock just doesn't look that good

barren quest
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Toronto just didn't know what to do at Hollywood 2nd attack

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Got completely stuck in the beginning

ebon aurora
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yeah I think Dallas win either 3-1 or 3-2

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they just look so good atm

barren quest
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How did Dallas's DS comps look when they played it during May Melee

ebon aurora
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they barely played them

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Havana v Outlaws I think?

barren quest
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Pretty sure they played it like once on Havana

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It was Fuel vs Uprising iirc

next mesa
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they won

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hanbin looks real nice

cursive plover
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I'm thinking dallas 3-1

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could be 3-2 either one too

little tusk
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who cares as long as pine isnt playing

ivory mason
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i have dallas 3-2

willow tartan
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I have shock winning it

trail perch
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Dallas was rly good at double shield

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They run it havana every tine

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time

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and blizzard world

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Before the finals

willow tartan
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idk I think shock's tanks are better at double shield

trail perch
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Shock washed im not even going to lie

noble nexus
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smurf has a better orisa definitely

trail perch
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Honestly debatable

noble nexus
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but hanbin and choi sig is a great matchup

trail perch
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When fearless played orisa he looked amazing

trail perch
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its a blowout

noble nexus
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sugma

willow tartan
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ehhh

trail perch
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Hanbin is just better in every way

barren quest
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Both are top tier

noble nexus
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they're both top tier

trail perch
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Chi is washed

noble nexus
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thats why I said its a good matchup

trail perch
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Choi

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Just wait

willow tartan
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the best sigmas are like Choi, void, hanbin and cr0ng

trail perch
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Marvel?

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Gargoyle

willow tartan
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he's a mt

trail perch
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But you said the best sigs

willow tartan
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gargoyle is pretty clean ac

trail perch
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and seoul still plays him on OT

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For some reason

vagrant cargo
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Garg is crazy

willow tartan
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and Seoul lost lol

vagrant cargo
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Marve1 sig had a Pretty big dropoff

barren quest
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Cr0ng

trail perch
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Cr0ng, Hanbin and Void are the best sigs

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everyone else is bellow them

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That doesnt mean everyone else is bad

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it means that they just arent as good

tropic herald
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id argue some things but ill think about it for a sec

earnest leaf
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Shock win if they force dallas to mirror double shield

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Fearless iirc always had orisa as a weak point for him

tropic herald
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fearless orisa isnt even bad its just also not his rein/winston

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similar too how super isnt bad off rein he just also isnt elite

earnest leaf
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Also in a double shield mirror dallas can't mirror the ashe

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Basically dallas wins by forcing dive

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And if that dive is strong enough, they can beat double shield

tropic herald
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im still in the belief if any team is going to do that its dallas

earnest leaf
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Or if dallas forces the dive mirror they should win

limber pine
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where's marve1 on your list

tropic herald
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marve1 wasnt an option :/

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but id put him for sigma solidly in high b

limber pine
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apparently Seoul thought he was.

tropic herald
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tbf his sig was really good but he also could not play other off tanks to save his life

willow tartan
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have you seen marvel dva

next mesa
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I feel like elsa is better than bernar

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marve1 back on ot again I guess..

balmy wolf
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valicant ZenDisappointed

next mesa
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His dva zarya serviceable at best lol

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Sigma is A doe imo

supple prism
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oh shit, i only missed 1 point in all of apac this weekend.

vagrant cargo
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agree with all

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except lateyoung D

tropic herald
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specifically on sig

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lateyoung zarya otp

barren quest
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Did Lateyoung play at all this season?

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I only remember seeing Elsa on

earnest leaf
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I'm gonna pred 3-1 dallas wins today vs shock

digital cloud
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Bold

weak bolt
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Bold to give shock a map? 😄

earnest leaf
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Do we know the map pool for that game

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Because unironically the maps are super important this time around

trail perch
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i cant wait to see like only dive maps

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even tho gibralter isnt even in the pool

ebon aurora
earnest leaf
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Dive can be ran on busan pretty easily

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dorado you can too but double shield is still good there

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Same thing with eich

#

Anubis is gonna favor double shield though

#

Or shock just hard prepped for dallas and rolls them

#

who knows

ebon aurora
#

Any chance of Defiant beating Houston?

earnest leaf
#

nah

little tusk
#

oh wow philly is actually against valiant and charge

tropic herald
#

they will take maps

little tusk
#

they might 3-0 them both wtf

#

so philly actually has a chance

weak bolt
#

Realistically no, but Aspire/Na1st played pretty damn good yesterday

little tusk
#

Aspire with that one nutty tracking shot

#

on widow

tropic herald
#

aspire and na1st actually look really good

willow tartan
#

Wtf am I seeing

earnest leaf
#

sparkle twerking

forest raven
#

Who's ready to see the Shock get 3-1'd

tropic herald
#

its likely

#

junkbuck diff

forest raven
#

Smurf and Choi can't carry Viol2t and the dps line against Fuel

raw ermine
#

Am I the only person who thinks sfs will win?

forest raven
#

Too heavy

raw ermine
#

I have the danny bless going for me

tropic herald
weak bolt
#

Shock did a lot of prep for Dallas for May Melee, a lot of that may carry over

forest raven
#

Viol2t took two ego 1v1's in the defiant game and both times he got absolutely fucked

#

Against aspire widow on junker and against na1st's echo on hollywood

#

Man's ego is out of control

tropic herald
#

idc if they were prepping dallas mostly, violet continues to go for plays with his dick and not his brain

#

it costs them way too much

earnest leaf
#

Viol2t has been fine majority of the time

forest raven
#

Also

earnest leaf
#

He did these ego duels all of last year lmao

forest raven
#

Doha is gonna poo all over nero

weak bolt
#

Yeah but SFS going to put Super on Genji and dominate sparkle

tropic herald
#

another reason dallas will win

#

individually speaking who on shock is better than their counterpart on dallas with a noticeable margin

forest raven
#

Noticeable?

#

No one

#

I rate smurf and choi above fearless hanbin but they're close

weak bolt
#

Depends on heroes, I'd say Viol2t wins on Bap, and FDGod is far better on Lucio.

tropic herald
#

whereas dallas has players that can noticeably diff their counterparts

forest raven
#

FD actually played a competent mercy yday Hmm

earnest leaf
#

almost like mercy is easy

forest raven
#

Still had moments of braindead aggression on lucio

tropic herald
#

i dont think fd is the issue on that team

#

not in this meta

earnest leaf
#

Shock's macro has just looked off

#

That's the biggest issue imo

#

But when their macro looks normal, they roll through fights easily

tropic herald
#

they need to pocket dps more for better results in this meta but they dont

earnest leaf
#

Like hanamura offense and Hollywood b defense

forest raven
#

There are two sides to shock

weak bolt
#

Shock just need to make it to finals and hope for a tracer meta and GG

forest raven
#

Hanamura A defence, and Hanamura offence

earnest leaf
#

If shock play like they did on hanamura offense, I think they can beat dallas

tropic herald
#

even with a meta where tracer is good shock didnt get to cross regions

forest raven
#

They also just

#

Didn't play tracer

tropic herald
#

yea so they wouldnt do good in a meta likely

#

that involves tracer

#

if they just dont play her

weak bolt
#

Shock fucked up MM by underestimating Houston and prepping 100% for Dallas

forest raven
#

rn Shock still loses to houston

weak bolt
#

Hopefully they've learnt from it

tropic herald
#

i dont get doom here

earnest leaf
#

yolo punch for a free pick

#

just like that

tropic herald
#

that shouldnt work

#

especially not on mei

#

pain for naist now

raw ermine
#

why'd they back off so hard?

ornate rose
#

it's nice to see moira being played

tropic herald
#

keep aspire on hard hitscan challenge

raw ermine
#

yeah, crimzo moira is fun to watch

weak bolt
#

Aspire doing a good job of trying to get himself a full time owl spot

raw ermine
#

happy vs aspire is nice

barren quest
#

Aspire already almost having deadeye

tropic herald
#

toronto gameplan is hilarious

raw ermine
#

reaper cree is hilarious

weak bolt
#

The monkey comp just can't cope with this

raw ermine
#

weird blossom...

#

oh man happy

little tusk
#

Aspire is from Kr contenders?

raw ermine
#

NA contenders

#

he's american

little tusk
#

oh shit for real

weak bolt
#

Was on American Tornado I think

raw ermine
#

please no aspire sym

little tusk
#

he's gud tho

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

only on AT for a week tho

forest raven
#

Corey 2.0

raw ermine
#

he was one of the dude who went on a billion loans while on revival

digital cloud
#

He has like xzi Cree aim wtf

balmy wolf
#

wow toronto is a pretty good team

raw ermine
#

YEAHH

#

We're normally worse. I am happy AF

weak bolt
#

Houston just being too stubborn to swap there, Monkey was not the play

willow tartan
#

comp diffd

earnest leaf
#

Looking good for my 3-1 pred

#

for outlaws

hollow river
#

winston was a throw pick

barren quest
#

Houston should stick with Orisa comps when necessary

weak bolt
#

Danteh/Happy are your carries for Outlaws, and they give them 0 resources

forest raven
#

I don't want to get ahead of myself, but the Toronto Defiant may be the best team in the world

tropic herald
#

They also just play the wrong comps

barren quest
#

Wasn't it the same mistake Outlaws made when they went against Reign?

#

Continuing to run comps that wasn't working for them

weak bolt
#

They'll swap in Jake now to play Mercy, and he'll die first to Aspire every fight

dreamy jasper
#

I like how in chat if Houston drop a map, they immediately blame dreamer

digital cloud
#

Lol

#

Not his fault

raw ermine
#

4 orisas

#

yikes

weak bolt
#

Got to play as much tank as possible before OW2

raw ermine
#

when you forget to say the l in gravitic flux on broadcast

#

when you don't touch the point

forest raven
mortal abyss
#

That could of been a decent hold from Toronto but they fumbled it

tropic herald
#

naist

#

please

weak bolt
#

That flanking playstyle was only going to last so long

tropic herald
#

it wouldve had a higher chance if he had his mercy or was in the air

weak bolt
#

He had Mercy, just Happy dominated him

raw ermine
#

man's dinking everyone

true hound
#

Aspire overwatch

ebon aurora
#

goddamn Aspire is actually nuts

willow tartan
#

aspire nutty

hollow river
#

aspire is clicking heads

weak bolt
#

Logix dealing with Covid and wondering if his spot has gone

true hound
#

😔

willow tartan
#

L

mortal abyss
#

Toronto are so bad how do they lose that

supple prism
#

bruh, imagine a contenders player carrying you and you still drop the ball

willow tartan
#

how did they lose this

#

didn't even cap

true hound
#

🗿

forest raven
#

The contenders player is the best looking player on toronto

trail perch
#

na1st??

wintry kraken
#

just realized, the youtube picture fo the current OWL stream shows Super... who most likely won't even play 😄

willow tartan
#

no he will

#

to play the hog

#

ofc

ivory mason
#

that would be funny

#

if they run hog against fearless monkey

noble nexus
#

hog will go about as well for the shock as it did for seoul

ivory mason
#

well the difference would be that fate ran orisa against it and dallas probably wont

#

even though they easily can

#

sparkle on hanzo , doha on echo

#

double shield

real gyro
#

Nope

#

Hanzo wont work

noble nexus
#

hog just won't work regardless

#

hopefully the shock aren't dumb enough to run it

real gyro
#

U need Cree or Ashe for double shield if u want to beat shock

#

So Super could play Hog

noble nexus
#

pine on ping could probably dominate glister if glister plays like he did on junkertown

real gyro
#

They could just play striker tbh

barren quest
#

Uhh

weak bolt
#

Defiant stonks plummeting

balmy wolf
#

That was embarrassing

plush grail
#

is aspire good?

limpid estuary
#

Ive only been watching bits and pieces. Is it actually 24/7 Echo/Baptiste/Double Shield?

plush grail
#

no

#

paris and justice game had tons of different comps

limpid estuary
#

Every game I've seen so far has been this comp.

#

Ok.

weak bolt
#

He's been doing very well

barren quest
earnest leaf
#

Double shield has been the stronger comp though

plush grail
#

its weird imo that these teams are forcing double shield

earnest leaf
#

Or orisa based comps at least

plush grail
#

sado and michelle have a good winston and dva

barren quest
#

In NA, Orisa comps are common

digital cloud
#

Orisa dva too

limpid estuary
#

How much of this is because of Hero Pools banning a lot of other viable alternatives?

#

May Melee had a lot of variety

digital cloud
#

Hard to say

plush grail
#

all of it prolly

earnest leaf
#

6 second halt/ rein ban

raw ermine
#

and we're getting rolled

#

yikes my WIFI dc's for 2 minutes

plush grail
#

if zen was in echo would not be played as much prolly

raw ermine
#

nice, the send in the wrong order

plush grail
#

get a cree, orb echo and just delete her

weak bolt
#

Without hero pools we'd probably just have Rush maps vs Double shield maps

limpid estuary
#

Tracer/Sombra being gone is pretty impactful too

plush grail
#

genji will be meta

gloomy vector
#

LUL

barren quest
#

All ults and still lose

#

Ranked moment

gloomy vector
#

wow

proven saddle
#

i'm gonna sell my Toronto stonks

earnest leaf
#

I am very smart

kind ridge
#

Toronto throwing

#

Hard

gloomy vector
#

i think i put 3 1 as well

next mesa
#

fuck

#

I put dallas 3-2 instead of 3-1

mortal abyss
#

Is Dallas shock the next game

barren quest
#

No its Titans vs Reign

gloomy vector
#

no

next mesa
#

oh same

tropic herald
earnest leaf
#

It should of been a 3-0

#

but houston threw lijang

raw ermine
#

makes 3

noble nexus
#

makes 4

gloomy vector
#

that was fast

forest raven
real gyro
#

Danteh holy

gloomy vector
#

man really good so far

#

hhow

#

what they couldnt take that still

#

well gg

ornate rose
#

pred was correct poggers

real gyro
#

Houston has so many players who can pop off

gloomy vector
#

yeah happy makes sense

kind ridge
#

At this point defiant is just as bad as valiant

#

Sad really

gloomy vector
#

the thing is toronto is actually good but the other teams are just pretty strong

kind ridge
#

Name them and I guarantee there will be more than half the teams you mention

next mesa
#

toronto is a pretty good team tbh

forest raven
#

They won like, one or two fights after lijiang

tropic herald
#

Toronto is not good

#

They have some nice individuals

#

But their overall game plan is well

#

Not there

gloomy vector
#

i mean they only lost like 2 teams right outlaws and justice right or is it more

weak bolt
#

Toronto are going to struggle if their gameplan is just send Na1st on flanks and hope for the best. Teams will adapt to that pretty quick

fast tusk
#

Ez win for atlanta

weak bolt
#

Linkzr Genji, lets go

kind ridge
#

Mayhem

#

And a very close call with the reign

proven saddle
#

who was the one that hated colorhex?

#

i feel the same for Linkzr

next mesa
#

boston too

#

got swept by boston

fast tusk
#

Who

kind ridge
#

Toronto

#

Wait did anyone just see pelican punch an incoming turret

fast tusk
#

Yea

weak bolt
#

yep, turrets and melee are both 30hp I think?

willow tartan
#

alright guys from watching owl I think I know how to play reaper now

barren quest
#

Reaper guy

tulip nymph
#

Overwatch is sus!

weak bolt
#

Changsik going to wish he stayed retired

willow tartan
#

I must teleport in front of the enemy backline and kill them

barren quest
#

Super quick match

fast tusk
#

Fr

willow tartan
#

No I need my tokens

#

it can't end this quickly

kind ridge
#

Not even dream can speed run that shit

tawdry hamlet
#

Linkzr genji red

tropic herald
fast tusk
#

Youll get from the dallas v sfs match i think

forest raven
trail perch
#

Lmao

willow tartan
#

No wonder they lost, they announced their game plans publicly

trail perch
#

they know they are dogshit

fast tusk
#

Dum dums

trail perch
#

and has pelican played mei a single time? in the JJ

kind ridge
#

Ya

willow tartan
#

titans need to win this

#

I want those bread sticks

kind ridge
#

Welp

weak bolt
#

Titans Social Media Manager going to end up as their coach if they carry on like that

fast tusk
#

M o n k e

weak bolt
#

Looks like they have more of a plan than Titans do

surreal tulip
#

Vancouver management needs to go to the drawing board. Pretty pathetic performance eversince RunAway ran away!

weak bolt
#

Titans management clearly dont give a shit about the team any more, that's been clear since start of S3

fast tusk
#

Jesus

surreal tulip
#

If they don’t give a shit they should drop their spot in OWL to someone that does care. Bad advertizing for OW.

next mesa
#

maybe vancouver management should go fuck themselves

#

drop their spot

#

yes

#

I agree

polar dirge
#

This is really yikes

weak bolt
#

You'd need to find someone to buy it and pay the amount Titans would want

next mesa
#

vanacouver management can actually shit their pants

plush grail
#

ur team sucks

fast tusk
#

Kai

golden fulcrum
#

Just tuned in, I see the titans are still the titans

supple prism
wintry kraken
#

o-kai

weak bolt
#

They must have cared originally to buy the Runaway roster

raw ermine
#

yeah that was expensive

worn hornet
#

Did Vancouver lose a sponsorship? I noticed all their backdrops have blue sticky notes over a bunch of spots on them.

tropic herald
#

shees

polar dirge
#

This is not a good look for OWL

#

I feel bad for casters

weak bolt
#

I want to say best hope for Titans is a Chinese org buys them out next year, but didn't work so well for LAV

polar dirge
#

KEKW

surreal tulip
#

Pizzahut should pay them more for the extra advertisement, while the casters are making fun of Vancouver performance.

trail perch
#

yeah but a real chinese org

#

If they signed real playes

#

then gg

#

Thor, diya, superrich etc

worn hornet
#

and it's not like they'd have to worry about the breadsticks deal since they're not getting to map 5 this season

polar dirge
#

Jesus

weak bolt
#

We need to have a tournament of the bottom ranked teams each stage. Bottom 2 teams per region play to avoid being called the worst

#

We're being denied a Titans vs LAV matchup

forest raven
#

Titans vs London

supple prism
#

McGravy stream?

forest raven
#

Loser plays Valiant

hollow river
#

why dont they drop to contenders

fast tusk
#

!!!!!!!!!

weak bolt
#

Because orgs paid millions of dollars to join the league, not contenders

worn hornet
#

they paid a lot of money for an OWL berth

#

$20m is the number that springs to mind for me

raw ermine
#

what is he doing

weak bolt
#

S1 buy in cost was $20M, S2 was reportedly 2-3x that

fast tusk
#

Atlanta is just bullying titans at this point

hollow river
#

but are they making any profit of this

weak bolt
#

Probably not at the moment, but if Homestands become a thing again maybe.

#

Their overall running costs probably aren't high. 6x 50k Salaries + Coaches + Basic housing.

forest raven
supple prism
#

im pretty sure they are making more than enough money from sponsors

#

to cover expenses

#

wins really only matter to the players so they can look good enough to stay in the league to make money since anything below doesnt make any money.

tropic herald
#

just realized

#

titans covered up the circle k sponsors instead of just buying new backgrounds

#

this team is not set up for success

wintry kraken
#

sand facts with Bren & Sideshow

golden fulcrum
#

These casters are trying so hard to he nice to titans

tawdry hamlet
#

500 dollars max in new banners? Or? Just cover em up GAMERHANDSHAKE

#

Reminds me of kitchen nightmares where the guy opened a new restaurant and just put a giant sticker over the old restaurant name on the menu

golden fulcrum
#

Can teams be knocked out of OWL? Because surely there are better teams than this?

tawdry hamlet
#

No

#

😭

supple prism
#

has any new map speed records been set this year yet?

golden fulcrum
#

Thats weird, and sad.

supple prism
proven saddle
#

what happened to pokpo? why didn't Vancouver picked him

golden fulcrum
#

Lol, the casters

fast tusk
#

I like how no one is talking about reign vs titans

ornate rose
#

ggs

tawdry hamlet
#

Teams basically value veteran presence over talent so a lot of t2 talent gets shit on, like neptuno on Paris never ever ever should have happened that was literally Zholiks spot but he got passed over because haha neptuno is veteran

ornate rose
#

its over

golden fulcrum
ornate rose
#

very true

#

i had 3-0 in my pick ems, as im sure most people did too

proven saddle
#

to be fair, neptuno has been active since 2018 and is was in a grand final

hollow bough
#

i have yet to see titans win a round

supple prism
tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah but in tryouts everyone said he did far worse than others but they wanted a coach player, they just didn't realize he was washed as fuck

fast tusk
#

This id brutal

hollow bough
#

dont necessarily have to win a team fight LOL

tawdry hamlet
#

Lmaoo "you don't have to win a teamfight to win the objective you can just stealthily get it like Vancouver is trying here"

#

monkaS 😭

worn hornet
#

Subterfuge!

tawdry hamlet
#

Lol

supple prism
#

the hell happened, it has gotten so much easier to determine the winners of every map this year.

tawdry hamlet
#

Well this week all the shitters had several games so it was pretty clear cut

golden fulcrum
#

Has anyone seen any of the titans ults do anything of use?

ornate rose
#

next game can go either way I think, but I think dallas will win

fast tusk
#

Gg

hollow river
#

the question is, who's to blame for this poor performance

golden fulcrum
#

Yeah fuel v shock sounds really exciting

proven saddle
#

linzr mad

tawdry hamlet
#

The dog shit org

#

Is to blame

golden fulcrum
#

Linkzr?

hollow bough
#

difficult game to watch

tawdry hamlet
#

The titans org is actually dog shit

golden fulcrum
#

Linkzr camera was fucking gone lol

hollow river
#

is it luminosity ?

gloomy vector
#

well its now fuel vs shock

devout path
#

linkzr hit his camera p sure

proven saddle
#

actually depressing match

hollow bough
#

he was pretty upset

tawdry hamlet
#

They were so desperate for players they took a 4 win lineup, got rid of the good pieces, and then popped in Linkzr like he would carry OmegaLUL After they imploded and dropped the best roster we've ever seen, literally dog shit org

gloomy vector
#

i think i did 3-2 fuel maybe i did shock 3-2 i dont remember

supple prism
#

the crazy thing is that linkzr actually cares to win, why would he join a team that just doesnt

tawdry hamlet
#

Where else would he go

ornate rose
#

The only team titans can beat would prob be valiant

tawdry hamlet
#

London maybe lmao?

ornate rose
#

oh true

golden fulcrum
#

You get a big bucks contract you take it

hollow bough
#

linkzr is a great player but vancouver just isnt a good team

#

I guess if he did get big money then yeah its worth

proven saddle
hollow bough
#

yeah lol

devout path
supple prism
#

if i was linkzr and couldnt get on at least a mid tier team, i would either retire or join like valorant

gloomy vector
#

rip titans next matches is against shock then fuel theyre about to just never win Sadge

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean what other team needs a B at best hitscan anymore

little tusk
#

that mercy shot

tropic herald
little tusk
#

was nuts

tawdry hamlet
#

Besides London

fast tusk
#

Fire

hollow bough
#

they arent taking it seriously lol

golden fulcrum
earnest leaf
#

time for the interesting game

tropic herald
proven saddle
#

in pine we trust

hollow bough
#

cardboard cutout of player > new banner

devout path
#

no we dont trust pine'

supple prism
#

but if i was like Fire who never really played many match I would just collect whatever money I could then invest as much as possible.

gloomy vector
#

it would be fin if it was a 3-0 but i rather have a 3-2

#

fun

tawdry hamlet
tropic herald
#

fire just earning his 50k

golden fulcrum
supple prism
#

50k and all your expenses are paid so just fully invest that 50k

hollow bough
#

painters tape on old sponsor, lets buy that cardboard cutout B)

tawdry hamlet
next mesa
#

Linkzr has no place in the league anymore and honestly he knows it he said he's gonna retire after this season

proven saddle
supple prism
#

nah, stay in and take the money

#

then leave at the end of the season

proven saddle
#

off topic, but should i buy metro exodus?

tawdry hamlet
#

Calling it now next season Vancouver keeps the exact same roster but cucks tier 2 and picks up kellex and hybrid as their new starters OmegaLUL

#

Next year

proven saddle
#

is in discount in steam

hollow bough
tropic herald
#

Titans should try and get Ojee UV

stuck radish
#

linkzr leaves and vancouver becomes S tier team in s5

supple prism
#

i couldnt get into the metro series

tawdry hamlet
#

Linkzr bout to pull a neptuno and retire after several losses and taking a better t2 players job bet

next mesa
#

If Vancouver wants to succeed pick AT players but I want them to fucking flop

proven saddle
next mesa
#

And just get out of the league

#

Like

proven saddle
#

gotta love masaa

next mesa
#

The fuck you still doing here bitchass runaway ruining idiots

real gyro
#

Battle of the bandwagoners up next

tawdry hamlet
#

They couldn't even pony up the money for third impact I doubt they'll pony up money for any other players

dreamy jasper
tawdry hamlet
#

Just such a shit org

#

Honestly I can almost respect immortals more than then

supple prism
tawdry hamlet
#

And Immortals sucks ass TSMC_charizard

tawdry hamlet
#

😭

willow tartan
#

bumper fell off the side of the planet

dreamy jasper
#

He used to stream a little

#

Some teams are just getting hard rolled

proven saddle
#

tbf it was a really close match, could've gone either way, don't let the score fool you

tawdry hamlet
#

Just depressing knowing that I gurantee you titans picks up londons drops next year

tawdry hamlet
#

Yes

proven saddle
#

it is yeh

dreamy jasper
#

Titans fans coping rn

willow tartan
#

bread stick fans

dreamy jasper
#

This is gonna be good

tawdry hamlet
#

I gurantee you though Titans after Linkzr retires are going to grab hybrid, Logix, or taiyo and just completely cuck tier two

dreamy jasper
#

Ta1yo lmao

tawdry hamlet
#

Taiyo about to be the next neptuno

balmy wolf
#

im expecting more viewers next game

#

because shock

dreamy jasper
#

He has played like twice in 9 nmonths

willow tartan
#

what does hybrid, logix, and, ta1yo have to do with t2

tawdry hamlet
#

If they sign a shitty veteran they will take the job of better new talent stuck in t2

ornate rose
#

damn custa spitting facts

dreamy jasper
#

True

ornate rose
#

"dont deserve to be in the league"

willow tartan
#

more like saving them from playing for vancouver

dreamy jasper
#

To think that the titans were the best team to exist

tawdry hamlet
#

I guess

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But it's just like man

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Runaway to this

dreamy jasper
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Hopefully Shock do better today copium

tawdry hamlet
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Literally last season titans were able to win games at least 😭

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And they had two players on 200 ping

fast tusk
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Fuel take this 3-2

willow tartan
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We need to get more orgs in the league to pick up on contenders talent.

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balance out the regions

dreamy jasper
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Shock just need to use their brains today

tawdry hamlet
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They had shockwave and ksaa on 200 ping and carcar on main support so they were at full disadvantage and managed to beat 6 teams or so loll

ornate rose
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3-2 dallas lets go

willow tartan
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shockwave actually gamer

hollow river
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3-1 shock

tawdry hamlet
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I said 3-1 Dallas after shock vs defiant

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I had 3-1 shock

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But changed it

fast tusk
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3-2 dallas

dreamy jasper
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3-2 Shock i feel NotLikeSoldier