esports-discussion

[devout path]

How many monkey comps have you seen beat ds

[shell tide]

a few

like on saturysay

[balmy wolf]

not on payload maps

[shell tide]

when houston beat florida

[balmy wolf]

you can only win control

with monkey

[devout path]

Oh yeah

[shell tide]

wrong

[balmy wolf]

right

[devout path]

Those monkey dva rush comps

[mortal abyss]

https://twitter.com/fusionuni/status/1396832269428535300?s=21

Fusion University (@FusionUni)

It's a good week to say #GoFU... Our EU Contenders Trials matches begin TODAY at 2p.m. ET! 🙌

Be sure to set your reminders so you don't miss a single minute of it: https://t.co/6Z3sFRoIyJ

Twitter · May 24, 2021, 2:15 PM

[little tusk]

is there a stream for this

[tropic herald]

It’s the YouTube link in the tweet

[hot onyx]

Time to watch something Fusion related finally win something

[limber pine]

ouch

[little tusk]

oof

[hot onyx]

Well I say that as if I don’t have faith in them getting two 3-0 wins and barely squeezing into the June Joust cope

[little tusk]

dw eqo will win us the matches QQ

[hot onyx]

Eqo Rascal genji echo time

[trail perch]

Eqo rascal shockwave triple echo

[little tusk]

I just want to see shock in action

shockwave that is

[hot onyx]

Based

[plush grail]

i will fight you

[devout path]

That’s what the standings says

[plush grail]

i will

cry

[devout path]

Good

[plush grail]

:(

[devout path]

:)

Boston #1

[plush grail]

paris good

too

[devout path]

No

Paris garbage

Worse than Atlanta kekw

[plush grail]

be nice pls

[hot onyx]

Imagine Boston with Kellan

And Proper

World beater team right there

[devout path]

Imagine Boston with striker

And fearless

And ans

[hot onyx]

Imagine Boston with Carpe Rascal Hotba Mano Tobi and Alarm

[devout path]

No

[hot onyx]

World beater team right there

[devout path]

Keep faith myunbong

Valentine good too

I’ll take carpe

And mano

Gbs > hotba

[next mesa]

tobi alarm >> faith myunbong

[hot onyx]

Yeah no off tank is better than gbs

[devout path]

While this is true I still want myunbong

And faith isn’t that bad

[hot onyx]

Boston can be rank 1 and you wanna settle for “not that bad”

[devout path]

Boston doesn’t have the money to sign those players

[hot onyx]

They had money for GaeBullSsi

[devout path]

Gbs was a contenders player

Never played in owl

They don’t need to pay him as much as an established top 2 fs

[hot onyx]

Top 1*

[devout path]

Or pay him as much as the best hitscan in the league

[hot onyx]

2nd best*

[devout path]

Or pay him as much as an established top tier main support

[hot onyx]

You forgot Dalton

[devout path]

True

Or pay him as much as a 2018 stage champion

[hot onyx]

Two time 2018 stage champion*

[devout path]

Nyxl won 2?

[hot onyx]

Yeah

[devout path]

Didn’t know that lol

[hot onyx]

Stage 2 against Philly 3-2 and Stage 3 against Boston 3-0

[devout path]

Boston

I remember old Boston

With striker crusty

That’s all I remember

[hot onyx]

Avast and Kalios

chefs kiss

[devout path]

Remember when sideshow was on glads

[low blade]

any league matches today?

[devout path]

No

[balmy wolf]

no

friday

[low blade]

ah ok

tjx

[hot onyx]

And Mayhem

[low blade]

thx*

[devout path]

Hey marbel

[balmy wolf]

not the player

[balmy wolf]

hey weirdo

[devout path]

Boston > Atlanta > Paris

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/pee-gif-21375990

[balmy wolf]

idk

[plush grail]

lily

when boston plays paris

[next mesa]

boston looking nice

[plush grail]

i will bully u

[hot onyx]

No league matches but Fusion University got sHockWave Poko and Astro to destroy EU contendies

[balmy wolf]

houston is a good team

[next mesa]

and sugarfree

[low blade]

London Spitfire is a joke

[balmy wolf]

you only played ass teams

[hot onyx]

With Sugarfree Jkaru and Boombox as well

[low blade]

aren't spitfire 0-6?XD

[plush grail]

to be fair

spitfire has not played a single bottom tier team yet

[balmy wolf]

boston

[hot onyx]

Also if Paris beats Boston I will soak my socks in orange juice and wring then out into my mouth

[balmy wolf]

they played boston

[low blade]

yup

still post

lost*

[plush grail]

justice fans must be malding

losing to a budget EU team and some random boston guys that shit the bed last stage

[devout path]

Boston first London 3rd :)

Boston have not last a map yet :)

Boston beat the team 3-0 you lost to :)

You are 1-1

[balmy wolf]

lmao

[devout path]

I am 2-0

[next mesa]

because they are bottom tier

[balmy wolf]

paris still dogshit

[devout path]

You can’t beat me

[next mesa]

the only team more bottom othan them is like titans

[devout path]

Imagine losing a game kekw

[plush grail]

my team might be shit

but i wake up every day knowing i am not lily

so i am happy

[balmy wolf]

but youre luigi

[plush grail]

marbel do u even know my fuckin name

[balmy wolf]

i wouldnt be happy about that

no

you didnt tell me

[devout path]

I’m also better than you socially

[balmy wolf]

i have nothing to call you

i can call you cutie

[devout path]

Hey Luigi you’re still single right

[balmy wolf]

dont do him like that

he suffered too much

[devout path]

True

Garbage team

Garbage team lost a game

[balmy wolf]

they have 4 losses

[devout path]

Boston and Atlanta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paris

[balmy wolf]

just garbage

[devout path]

Boston and Atlanta 2-0

Paris 1-1

Only won a game against a throwing Washington

Lost a game against a gatekeeper team kekw

[balmy wolf]

and hes happy about that lol

can only win against worst team

[devout path]

Lost to the team that if you lose to you’re one of the worse teams

[balmy wolf]

true true

[devout path]

Washington wasn’t even playing decay and they’re happy about that

I knew Boston could’ve played punk and 3-0d Washington after I saw how garbage Washington was against a literal bottom tier team named Paris

[balmy wolf]

he thinks daan is good

[plush grail]

pain

[balmy wolf]

enough said

[plush grail]

if i never existed

lily would for sure not have hated paris

[balmy wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/omegalu-liguess-omegalul-twitch-emote-sadge-gif-20577467

[devout path]

LMAO

I know

What an idiot

[balmy wolf]

this guy has 0 iq

[plush grail]

https://twitter.com/VancouverTitans/status/1396873634388525067?s=19

Vancouver Titans (@VancouverTitans)

Today we announce that @ShRedLock has decided to move onto a new chapter and will be retiring from the Overwatch League.

Abtin has been a crucial and core part of the team, we thank him for all of his hard work, tenacity, and dedication to our OWL journey! 💙💚 https://t.co/rqCg71Q8OO

Twitter · May 24, 2021, 5:00 PM

[balmy wolf]

i didnt even know thats possible

[plush grail]

sadge

[devout path]

Yeah my bad I shouldn’t have brought up the fact that I have 3 and you have 0

[plush grail]

actually blocked

[devout path]

????

I just said it was uncalled for for me to comment ab that

[devout path]

Wait

[next mesa]

how do u be single and watching overwatch league thats an instant turn on

[devout path]

Who is gonna main tank

[plush grail]

me

[next mesa]

the c guy

[balmy wolf]

0-16

[next mesa]

chasik

[plush grail]

changsik

[devout path]

Emergency signing time

Wait

They have someone on the bench right

[plush grail]

a dps ye

[devout path]

Who are their dps

Teru dalton

[balmy wolf]

linkzr

[devout path]

Linkzr

[plush grail]

linker

[devout path]

Linkzr main tank

Oh god oh fuck

[plush grail]

no you fucking dumbass

they're gonna have a replacement

[devout path]

How

They play this week

[plush grail]

lily

[devout path]

They need to train linkzr now

[plush grail]

how low is your iq

[earnest leaf]

Titans stonks are up

[devout path]

Incase you can’t sign them

[devout path]

Daan fan kekw

[plush grail]

player signings have to be approved

but like

they're never gonna say no

[balmy wolf]

cant be lower than yours

[plush grail]

im actually gonna cry myself to sleep

[balmy wolf]

good

[earnest leaf]

Daan has solidified himself as the better eu mt compared to hadi

Because hadi is fucking tragic

[devout path]

This is true but both are feeders

[plush grail]

1 blocked message

[tropic herald]

changsik is alright but i dont remember much recent stuf from him'

[plush grail]

hasn't played in a while

[tawdry hamlet]

I thought he hasn't played in fuckin ages

Yeah

Like why not sign a current free agent main tank lmao

Why some random from years back

[mortal abyss]

No clue

[earnest leaf]

I'd be amazed if he was worse than shredlock

[noble nexus]

changsi(c)ko mode time

[plush grail]

i hate you

[barren quest]

Bring in the goat FS Rawkus

Well he would still be better than Roolf anyway

[tawdry hamlet]

He was on old funi so I doubt he's that bad of anything but idk why him of all people

Boink

Boink Rawkus support line when?!?!?

[devout path]

BUMPER BUMPER BUMPER

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/TheRevivalGG/status/1396857787813089282

Vite Ramen Revival (@TheRevivalGG)

Thank you, Overwatch.

Likes

782

Twitter · May 24, 2021, 3:57 PM

🥲

[devout path]

NOOOOOO

[tawdry hamlet]

That's odd didn't they win or get second like the last two seasons?

4th last season and 1st in March

[devout path]

They won something

[slow lodge]

Is it even possible for Philly to qualify for knockouts?

[balmy wolf]

possible yes

but very unlikely

[trail perch]

Same for justice, very very very unlikely

[mortal abyss]

We’d have to 3-0 both our next games and then we’d have a small shot

[trail perch]

Is the spark the best team in APAC rn?

[balmy wolf]

yes

[trail perch]

if so i might actually fucking die from joy

FINALLY

LONG HAVE I WAITED

MY TEAMS ARE BOTH THE BEST

[plush grail]

?

what

[barren quest]

Probably Spark and Hunters for now yea

[shell tide]

oh

there goes shredlock

idk why but i actully care about this one

[trail perch]

Ive been a dallas and spark fan forever

Now...

Now we are the best

[mortal abyss]

https://youtu.be/Jdcz1LvnV3M

[mortal cloak]

I wouldn't say best
I'd say Dallas and Houston have had some really good games, more or less flukes

[digital cloud]

Houston and Dallas are not flukes

Maybe a game or two for them was

But not all

[mortal abyss]

How are Dallas flukes lmao

[plush grail]

can u @ me when they actually start

[mortal abyss]

Yeah idk why the stream hasn’t started lol

[next mesa]

how can you win a fckin tournament and be a fluke

hmm

[hot onyx]

nnnnnNNNOOOOO

NOT MY faVOURITE PLAYER

[noble nexus]

Shredlock was my mvp candidate for this season 😭

[shell tide]

why

[tribal canopy]

now the titans will start losing

[mortal abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvfPF4o9orM french stream is alive but it’s just the casters talking

[shell tide]

i cant like shredlock without being slandered?

really?

[mortal abyss]

Stream started hooray

[plush grail]

[mortal abyss]

This is so scuffed

[plush grail]

i know

[mortal abyss]

Yeah this is looking as close as expected

[balmy wolf]

ayooo

i know this is eu trials

but sugarfree is top owl level

[mortal abyss]

He looks great yeah

[next mesa]

yeah

[balmy wolf]

he would be roty

[next mesa]

5 owl players

owl level*

[balmy wolf]

thats judt so wrong

kings row is a brawl map

always was

[mortal abyss]

Bastion pog

Sadge nvm

[golden fulcrum]

Which one is sugar free?

[balmy wolf]

jiali

[tawdry hamlet]

Noooooooo my favorite player shredlock gone

[limber pine]

Titans 2.0 should have a special place in everybody's heart

no joke

[devout path]

Titans was the most consistent team in the league

[tawdry hamlet]

S3 Boston was pretty consistent

[devout path]

True

But not as consistent

[tropic herald]

philly is the most consistent

[balmy wolf]

consistently 2nd

[shell tide]

very mature

quite actually

[balmy wolf]

@teal bronze

[tawdry hamlet]

How is Kage winning so many duels on shockwave lmao

Ouch funi got fucked on that map lmao, they had 3:3 with a 3 minute advantage and managed to lose 4-6

Ooh Raspberry Racers play next lesgo

[hot onyx]

Trying to play hanzo when he is in a useless state runs in the Fusion Fam I guess

[tawdry hamlet]

Loll

Kage was popping but shockwave was not stonks

Gibraltar so rush isn't as good as monke now Les go baby

Funi time

Is jkaru any good btw I don't really know them

[hot onyx]

Jkaru is arguably a top 3 Eu Contenders mt imo

Especially on monke

[tawdry hamlet]

Soliddd

As long as they don't force Hanzo I believe

[hot onyx]

Same dude

[tawdry hamlet]

But if they lose this series that's a yikes

[hot onyx]

Funi never lose better win streak than 2019 or whenever the 30 game win streak came in cope

[tawdry hamlet]

It's their first series since s3 of owl so I don't blame them necessarily if they lose but they on paper should be rolling loll

Also another thing on franchised leagues to add to the bitching about it levy and I were doing yesterday, it locks out nuts players who aren't 18

Sugar free is a freak

Wow Nico is so mediocre I didn't even notice he was on disaster and I'm literally watching the game

[next mesa]

I really thought nico's mei and echo were really good but now he just seems bad

[tawdry hamlet]

I think mei was his best hero iirc

I don't entirely remember though since I didn't watch a ton of Paris outside Xzi soon sparkle

[balmy wolf]

nico is known as a mei onetrick

[mortal cloak]

What are your guy's pickems for the Dallas-Shock match coming up?

[balmy wolf]

3-1 shock

[tawdry hamlet]

He's also a known left handed player

With meta shake up I'm not sure, I'd out money on shock simply because they have more depth to handle meta shifts but with genji relevant and coming fresh off a tourney win I wouldn't put it past Dallas to win

[balmy wolf]

its orisa meta

[tawdry hamlet]

Shock have an orisa player but Dallas has the best genji in the league

[balmy wolf]

they have no hitscan

[digital cloud]

winston is usable, so dallas

fearless is the main character

[balmy wolf]

mc loses often

[tawdry hamlet]

Winston barely usable tbh, Hadi tried it and got hard melted every fight lmao

[balmy wolf]

what shounen are you watching

[tawdry hamlet]

Orisa pull too stronk

[digital cloud]

but shock is the big villain dude

if dallas was playing some random team they would lose, but the big villain is always a win smh

clearly your shounen is rusty

[tawdry hamlet]

Main character always wins, that Sao type shit lmao

[digital cloud]

sao so trash

god it sucks

why is the animation so good second season

what did it do to deserve that

[balmy wolf]

black clover best shounen

[tawdry hamlet]

Mfw anime tangent from fearless joke

[digital cloud]

rn ye

[tawdry hamlet]

[digital cloud]

though apparently tokyo revengers is heat

[tawdry hamlet]

Nico trying to mirror shockwave or sugar free on tracer lmao

He's getting dumpstered

[digital cloud]

and I can't but wait for jujutsu kaisen to continue heating up

mappa is the goat if not for ufotable animation

[tawdry hamlet]

[balmy wolf]

rip chefbilly

lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

They held spawn door for a minute and a half lmao

Shockwave hitscan still cracked which is great to see he wasn't rusty

[next mesa]

I remember seeing that Nico tried out for titans or something and they said his Mei wasn't good lol

[tawdry hamlet]

Oof

That would be the memiest dps line

[gusty rampart]

The one good Titans member left

[tawdry hamlet]

Fucking Nico Linkzr

[tropic herald]

https://gatamchun1110.medium.com/fearless-interview-by-ybt-may-23rd-2021-eced71a7b284

[tawdry hamlet]

Next game is raspberry racers who have finnsi a meh off tank from old old Paris

Wait no finnsi left last week rip

At this moment in time is hotba > poko and is Bernar > Lige true you guys think? Or nah

[noble nexus]

Lige > Bernar

hotba might be better than poko too but I never watched the contendies match

[balmy wolf]

owl is great this season

[tawdry hamlet]

Team cc > over half of na

[noble nexus]

facts tho

[balmy wolf]

cant say it too much

[noble nexus]

there aren't many bad teams

literally just vancouver and valiant

[balmy wolf]

and london

[noble nexus]

spitfire too probably

yeah

although I wish they were good

[tawdry hamlet]

Depressing the amount of unsigned good players too to have some shitter teams like Vancouver

[barren quest]

Justice is pretty bad rn

[tawdry hamlet]

Like it's not even titans are just bottom of the top, they're easily worse than like half the tier two teams out there

[tropic herald]

its interesting that justice are bad bc fearless also says that they were pretty good in scrims

[balmy wolf]

they could play dive in scrims

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder how many teams practiced orisa because a few seemed like deadset on not playing her

[tropic herald]

worse teams played orisa bc they couldnt synergize the dives and turns out the orisa was better

[tawdry hamlet]

Also Paris roadhog meme

[barren quest]

Incoming Orisa nerf in next experimental

[tawdry hamlet]

Daan hog unironically was fucking at the time lmao

[barren quest]

I wonder how different the matches would be without the hero pools

Would Orisa still be common?

[tropic herald]

i dont think so

shed be really good option but idk if the landscape of the meta would change

bc tracer sombra and zen

[tawdry hamlet]

The funi vs disaster contenders trials I'm watching rn ran double bubble and rein rush or dive

Rein was just kings row though

Monkeee been the main from what I see

God how TF is sugarfree so cracked at two games

Literally owl level and is playing competitive valorant

[mortal abyss]

The molten cum

Very cool

Shockwave torb kinda good

[next mesa]

Cucked by age

Palpitan too

[shell tide]

no

[slow lodge]

We could 3-0 the Valiant and maybe 3-1/3-2 the Charge... But this stage is cursed and Philly has been playing like shit

Charge lost 3-1 to Spark and 3-1'd NYXL

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk man charge is stupid good at double shield and they have two of the best genjis in the league

[slow lodge]

yeah...

EQO could possibly play at that time, but he needs to get integrated within the team

[tawdry hamlet]

Their tankline is nutty at double shield for some reason

[slow lodge]

I don't think Philly has tried the Genji except Carpe playing him for some reason...

Rascal has a decent Genji iirc

[tawdry hamlet]

Carpe and rascal both are pretty meh genjis from what I thought

Shock just forced tracer iirc

[slow lodge]

yeah

This hero pool hurts Philly way more than I thought

[mortal cloak]

this hero pool means super is benched for the month lmao

[slow lodge]

They might force Hog?

[tawdry hamlet]

I wonder how good fletas genji actually is since it took a lot of flack since they lost but like people forget Eileen was one of the best genjis and their tankline thrived in double shield while fearless orisa isn't nearly as good

Also did chengdu run genji I don't remember

[slow lodge]

I don't think so?

Leave was just too good with the Echo

Frustrates me seeing teams leave Echo's alive

[tawdry hamlet]

A good echo make or breaks your team in this meta, like Paris naga was fucking assassin in the echo duels

[slow lodge]

Rascal needs to step it up

Philly needs to get their shit together, please

[mortal cloak]

I'm open to these former bottom tier teams doing better
I'm tired of Shanghai, Shock, and Philly being the best season after season

[little tusk]

so how did fusion university do

[tawdry hamlet]

minor hiccup on kings row mirroring the rush but the other maps were stomps

since jkaru is better on monkey and nico is a mei one trick they lost the double bubble into rush

but once they played gibraltar it was over

then hanamura full capped with 4 minutes left

[little tusk]

nice nice

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/captainplanetow/status/1396916119277998080?s=21

Ben Trautman (@CaptainPlanetOW)

Statslab has updated! (with csvs on the way)

https://t.co/nahy7GwuUy

I encourage everyone to just perceive Leave

Twitter · May 24, 2021, 7:48 PM

Good performance good stats

Kinda strange how only Choisehwan in that top right quad

[little tusk]

rascal noob

[earnest leaf]

damn

so nearing half the time in a team fight, leave kills someone first

[slow lodge]

I just want Philly to win something

[tropic herald]

Which means, either Chengdu set leave up really well or They rely too much on leave, only the tapes will tell

[slow lodge]

Jimmy's cracked

I like him

[raw ermine]

Away from Internet for 3 days. Funi returns? Holy

[trail perch]

how did sugarfree look?

[raw ermine]

ok so

the justice

||got 3-0'd by paris. how||

[trail perch]

decay benched

[raw ermine]

can't be the only reason

against daan

I saw from a meme he was gone

but cmon

[trail perch]

tanks not flexible

Dive obviously isnt the comp rn

[earnest leaf]

Mag is a monkey otp

[trail perch]

But washington is very hesistant to play orisa

[earnest leaf]

Fury forgot how to play dva

Supports are meh

[raw ermine]

what did paris run?

[earnest leaf]

Assassin getting echo diffed

[raw ermine]

fury. Forgot how to play dva

the world must be ending

[tropic herald]

I can explain it

Washington individual good

Washington macro bad

Coaches fault

[trail perch]

It must be sad that ONIGOD has ruined decays day twice now

only player that can bench decay when they dont even play for the same team

[mortal cloak]

maybe next season =)

[tawdry hamlet]

They'll win contenders Eu season two ez dubs 🙏

[worn falcon]

so Vanc got shredlocked?

inb4 they get benworst

[raw ermine]

its leaked they get changsik

[worn falcon]

korean in vanc?

the worst org

[noble nexus]

I mean they have teru and he's korean

[worn falcon]

i always forgot how cursed is the vanc team

over this

we dont talk about that other player.

[raw ermine]

what's wrong w/ hooreg?

[tribal canopy]

Id like to know that aswell

[worn falcon]

Previous coach for Houston

[slow lodge]

[slow lodge]

what happened to the old and really good Titans?

[devout path]

Shitty management

[worn falcon]

shitty org

[slow lodge]

why would you pretty much scrap a championship team?

[devout path]

they didnt

[forest token]

players were treated badly, left

[devout path]

p sure they just left

[forest token]

same org fucked over their cod team as well

just a terrible org

[slow lodge]

oh wow...

[worn falcon]

they even didnt had translators for their stuff

[slow lodge]

[balmy wolf]

shame, the original titans were agrubably one of the best teams to exist in OW

[forest token]

best might be a stretch

they did let shock catch up to them

but they were certainly top tier

[raw ermine]

they were the most iconic

[gilded carbon]

can I blame hero pools too?

I dont like my team being bad

[mortal cloak]

hero pools shake up the meta for owl, it prevents one team from just dominating on a single team comp the entire season

[gilded carbon]

hero pools bad tho

[raw ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-gif-20184012

[slow lodge]

[obsidian maple]

Guys best sens for wido

[slow lodge]

Whatever is comfortable for you

[obsidian maple]

Idk i play on 16 xD and every one is below 5

XD

[raw ermine]

start high, and if you can't aim properly, lower it til you can

[obsidian maple]

@raw ermine yes but i like to move my aim fast but i miss my shuts :(

Sometime

[raw ermine]

you'll get better at widow as you practice, allowing for you to up your sense

also #overwatch-serious should be where you discuss this

[obsidian maple]

Ty

[tropic herald]

rewatching dorado bqb

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[trail perch]

100% one of the best

they where an entire player run team

imagine if they had real coaches

individual talant wise, they had 2 top main tanks, a top OT, one of the best proj players every, 3 servicable hitscans, and stitches peaks where top tier(see 2020 playoffs), the best flex support, and a top main support

and in goats...

need I say more

[balmy wolf]

titans were the perfect example of teammate synergy

[trail perch]

the best GOATS rein, the best GOATS zarya, the best GOATS brig, and top 3 on every other role

And they had the best synergy in history

[balmy wolf]

their macro game was by far the best i've seen in matches

[trail perch]

Also, longest record for undefeated regular season...

[raw ermine]

synergy was virtually unmatched

[trail perch]

unmatched, period

[balmy wolf]

NY, shock, and titans all had this trait of near perfect marco game

thats what made them clutch af

[raw ermine]

imagine 2019 titans w/ crusty

[trail perch]

the shock are clutch bc they have their always winable mentality

That overwelms teams by investing ults and resources after going down ppl

[balmy wolf]

u can apply that to titans

[trail perch]

titans just went balls to the wall every single fight

[balmy wolf]

yea because they made every little play right

which is macro

all the best teams knew how to do this properly

[trail perch]

also in the micro, seominsoo aim...

Fucking nutty tracking

Twilight with clutch volleys

Slime boops

haksal stuns

All fucking perfect

[balmy wolf]

damn s2 owl was the best

even if goats lasted too long

[trail perch]

Honestly peak OW

[trail perch]

Wrong

It didnt last long enough

[balmy wolf]

apex is up there but 2016/2017 was nowwhere near as good as when owl started

[trail perch]

The GOATS vs counter goats comps just started developing in stage 3

The meta would have gotten much better if they didnt add rolelock

[balmy wolf]

i dont doubt but i also dont believe the counter comps wouldn't have matter much

shit teams would not beat top goats teams with dps comps

u had to be good with the marco even with dps comps

[trail perch]

Shit teams wont beat top teams unless hero pools...

[balmy wolf]

i dont believe that either

well... not that I believe pools close the difference between teams THAT much

last year all the top still did fine in pools barring a few hiccups

[devout path]

Shut teams don’t deserve to beat good teams

That’s the point

[trail perch]

Hahahahahaaha

[devout path]

Goats was dying in stage 3 anyways

[trail perch]

Boston go BRRRRRRRRR

Hypocrite

[devout path]

Boston is not a shit team

[trail perch]

Sure

[devout path]

Just stand1 is

[trail perch]

whatever you say

Im37 is ok

Faith is fine

[balmy wolf]

Goats was still way too good to not run on certain map types, goats was just not becoming hard meta in stage 3 imo

[devout path]

In stage 4 we would’ve seen even less goats

[balmy wolf]

it was still a good comp for what it does

[devout path]

Shock and titans would still dominate

Shock would still win

[balmy wolf]

add in sigma in goats and u got even better version imo

[devout path]

Sigma goats

I don’t want to think ab that

[balmy wolf]

yea u dont

[devout path]

But

Even still

[balmy wolf]

it wasnt gonna go away

[devout path]

Goats was dying out and power creep was coming in

[trail perch]

imagine triple shield...

Orisa sig rein rush

[balmy wolf]

3 tanks was always gonna be op as hell

[devout path]

Slambulance

[balmy wolf]

4 tanks, add bap and lucio

cant die

[trail perch]

imagine combining rush and goats

Rein zar mei bap moira lucio

[raw ermine]

imagine...

orisa, sigma, hog, bap, brig, zen

[balmy wolf]

rein/sig/orisa/bap/zen/mei on koth

jfc no wonder role queue came in

collective shield health around 3k or something

[tropic herald]

that comp would be soooooooooooooooooo slow and easy to displace

[balmy wolf]

its 3 shield, why wouldnt it be fun?

ok add lucio and make it rush instead

[tropic herald]

if we are theory crafting

ball tracer/sombra pharah/echo ashe/widow zen/ana mercy would absolutely pound that comp

[next mesa]

whats ashe widow gonna do against 3 shields

pharah echo tho yeah

and tracer sombra

[tropic herald]

each slash has is a position

[next mesa]

just pew pew pow pow

[tropic herald]

the pick would be whichever one is busted for that map

[balmy wolf]

if were talking about shields before the nerf then good luck trying to punch through it in a mirror

[tropic herald]

i just dont see that comp being good, echo ashe tracer with a mercy is very high dps

[balmy wolf]

its more a question if u can burst them down quick enough

if not very unlikely you're gonna win in a round of attrition

[tropic herald]

you wouldnt even need to crack shields since you have a ball

boop one out of shields

dead

[slow lodge]

that comp would fuck up a ball tho

zen, mei, orisa, sig

[balmy wolf]

hmmm, maybe dva/sig/rein rush then

[slow lodge]

one halt and he's dead

[balmy wolf]

no need for zar when sig is there

and dva too

oh yea the cc on sig was still good two

the ball cannot get walled or halted

[devout path]

Zarya is all of the damage of goats

Dva would always be subbed out

[raw ermine]

sugarfree shockwave dps line

cracked as hell

[balmy wolf]

shame that sugarfree is too young to ever commit waiting for OWL

[raw ermine]

Christfer is a 2 way coach. Never seem that before, weird

[balmy wolf]

wait seriously?

[slow lodge]

what age can you go pro in Valorant?

Cause I hear he's trying to go pro in that

[balmy wolf]

no there is limit currently i believe for the big tournaments

[slow lodge]

damn

[balmy wolf]

however once franchising happens that may change

but thats gonna take another year or two to happen

[slow lodge]

Wasn't there a big valorant tournament in Finland or something

[balmy wolf]

yea its happening rn

day 1 started

kind of crazy dude was 15 and already was owl ready

[slow lodge]

damn

[raw ermine]

iceland, currently the big international tourney

[slow lodge]

damn

how was travel?

Any big problems?

[balmy wolf]

no

so far no big hiccups yet

[slow lodge]

You think there will be homestands next season?

I really wanna go to one

[balmy wolf]

uhh next year, maybe

[slow lodge]

Closest team to me is Vancouver Titans and uhhhh

[balmy wolf]

but its probs gonna like the 1st two season of owl

just located in one place

[slow lodge]

I wanna go to Philly game

ohh

California I'm guessing?

[balmy wolf]

probs

[slow lodge]

during 1 and 2 season of owl were all the teams in Cali?

or did they fly in

[balmy wolf]

all teams were in one spot

they never left expect for off season

[slow lodge]

interesting

I wanna go to one

[balmy wolf]

you'll probs go to one next year

but the thing holding it back is visas

[slow lodge]

yeah, global vaccine rollout is gonna be tough

[balmy wolf]

not that

[slow lodge]

hm?

[balmy wolf]

but if your rotating teams in and out you're to bound to have problems entering the country

[slow lodge]

yeah

homestands seem unlikely

but hopefully games in the blizzard arena will happen

Just searched it up, it's in Burbank, California

[balmy wolf]

i dont know much about getting visas in asia, but EU and US travels seems easier from what i've seen in different games

[slow lodge]

[balmy wolf]

s3 was the homestand year and all the teams seemed ready for it but we all know what happen

[slow lodge]

imagine some of the games we had this season on stage ;-;

Last season's Summer Showdown, live ;-;

[balmy wolf]

yupp

[tropic herald]

well actually

some games will be live this tourney

in china

[slow lodge]

yeah

[balmy wolf]

oh sweet

the asian homestand were the ones everyone was hype for

they have the biggest fanbase aside from the texas teams

[tropic herald]

paris homestand

[balmy wolf]

them i suppose

should've seen them pics of charges watch party

they filled up the center of the mall

[slow lodge]

they talked about that on plat chat iirc

[balmy wolf]

but yea paris last year would've been amazing

an EU team that was actually great

at least the current paris now isnt as horrible as london

[slow lodge]

oh yeah, that's another queestion i had

[balmy wolf]

idk how london is this shit compared to all the other versions of london

[slow lodge]

why did Paris dump their players?

They were really good

[balmy wolf]

i forgot why

something something budget or whatever

just upper managment wanting to put their money elsewhere

[slow lodge]

[balmy wolf]

also the KR players were probs too tempted to not reunite on DF

DF came with the bag and gave them an offer very few players will ever have

[slow lodge]

true true

Benbest however

and the other French guys

[balmy wolf]

during trials all of them went through it but werent selected

which is weird

i understand some not re-signing some of them but not benbest, he was the strongest EU player on the team imo

[slow lodge]

I thought FU would sign Benbest tbh

[balmy wolf]

nah its just a way to keep their players who were suppose to be in the main roster playtime

[slow lodge]

I see

[autumn escarp]

Can a ps4 player get into owl

Peace

[next mesa]

No

[autumn escarp]

☹️

Me ps4

[soft blaze]

thats really not even a question

like at all

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/shanghaidragons/status/1397040452621291520?s=21

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

It's time to cut through the competition! Welcome WhoRU!

#ShanghaiDragons #Breakthrough

Twitter · May 25, 2021, 4:02 AM

[gusty rampart]

Where is he from?

I honestly can't remember

[tropic herald]

NY and Lunatic Hai

[balmy wolf]

woah

[tropic herald]

This makes 0 sense

[balmy wolf]

huh, well ig we'll roll with it

[devout path]

Maybe

Erster wasn’t working with them and they chose to try to sign whoru

[earnest leaf]

So

Whoru is legit never starting unless it's for genji

And genji is bad

[worn falcon]

Whoru gengo

On this meta

[tawdry hamlet]

Duskakdjdjejakskskn hahhhhhhh

Whoru let's goooo

[tawdry hamlet]

He is but the east has been using him a lot

Charge Nyxl and spark all played him

Hence why charge actually won because genji is their best hero

And double shield one trick poggg

[next mesa]

LMAO WHAT THE FUCK

OH MY GOD WHORU I THOUGHT U RETIRED

LETS GOOOOO

FUCK YEAHHH MY BOYYYYY

Literallyyyy

They just picked the best Genji available

POG

[golden sage]

hey. im a new player looking to get into comp, im a tracer main who only has 2 lucioball vics. any tips?

[mortal cloak]

this isn't the channel for that

go to #overwatch-serious for stuff like that

[golden sage]

but its esports right? thats comp.

[mortal cloak]

comp isn't esports

[golden sage]

it isnt?

[mortal cloak]

nada

[golden sage]

oh well sorry

[mortal cloak]

mhm

[tawdry hamlet]

I am so hyped for next week of shanghai

they don't have the best orisa possible but maps like gibraltar where monkey works and now that they have a nuts genji

shanghai on paper are one of the strongest teams in the league right now

fate orisa is a letdown tho lowkey

[slow lodge]

I read this is whore-u

[slow lodge]

I need them to lose

I actually need everyone to lose

except for Philly

[tawdry hamlet]

ok so on paper a eqo carpe rascal dps line is the best one in the entire league imo, it is top tier on almost every hero if not every hero, but, tobi and hotba even if they have played well are still weaker than I would like on philly tbh

idk how tobi matches up to astro but I would probably prefer astro

poko can stay in eu t2 tbh

if they had shockwave tho, then they would be hands down no contest best dps line in the league

shockwave carpe eqo rascal

literally 2 s hitscan and 2 s flex

nuts

[slow lodge]

Mano needs to stop feeding

[tawdry hamlet]

god now that I think about it Philly at full roster would probably be able to out dps any roster in the league aside from maybe shanghai

[slow lodge]

Idk what's with this week. Philly just was a completely different team

[tawdry hamlet]

they didn't try orisa did they?

I don't remember

but the meta shakeup made orisa viable which helped a lot of underdog teams who figured out the meta before others slay

hence why justice got beat by paris because paris figured out orisa while justice tried to force monkey type thing

because mag outside monkey is a huge weakspot for them

he gets beat by oge on rien and gets gapped by everyone outside of winston

[slow lodge]

Will EQO be able to practice with the team during his quarantine?

I bet it will be rough to get him properly integrated since the Philly roster has been Korean comms iirc

[dark hedge]

Philly just trash

Smh my head

[slow lodge]

[dreamy cave]

is whats airing right now live or a replay?

nvm

[balmy wolf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/nk786u/owl_echo_stats_after_week_6/

pelican and leave on another level

[slow lodge]

?

[little tusk]

lol wjoru

whoru

[hot onyx]

I have just spent the last half hour calculating all possible scenarios where Fusion make it to the June Joust

[forest raven]

Fusion fans

[hot onyx]

2 weeks to improve and up against 2 of the weaker teams in apac, should be doable

Just also depends on how much Nyxl and Hunters decide to pound though

And if Fusion drop more than 1 map it’s over

[slow lodge]

So we HAVE TO 3-0 both matches?

[balmy wolf]

yes

[slow lodge]

Jesus

Let's say they do.

[balmy wolf]

0-4

0-12

[slow lodge]

Are we dependent on the other top teams doing bad?

[balmy wolf]

no doing okay actually

you need 1 team to go 2-2 -1

or 0

[slow lodge]

[hot onyx]

Worst Philly can allow is dropping a map to Charge

[slow lodge]

[hot onyx]

They drop 2 maps they have like a 1% chance of making it

[slow lodge]

[hot onyx]

And a lot of the hope also depends on the Spark vs Hunters game

[slow lodge]

[hot onyx]

Because we can’t put too much stonks into Seoul since if we do they’ll get one of the spots

But at the same time we gotta pray that Seoul beat NYXL 3-0 again

If Fusion do beat Charge 3-0 Charge are pretty much out so that’s one less problem

So even if Charge would 3-0 Seoul afterwards Fusion still have the better map diff

[dapper gull]

yo what would the 5v5 update do a massive change on the ow e-sports ?

[hot onyx]

So then if New York get at least 3-1 while Fusion 3-0 both their games that also leaves Fusion with the better map diff

[dapper gull]

i think so since 1 shield can break with high fire power leaving teams sitting helplessly

[hot onyx]

5v5 will make poke a permanent meta, make the skill cap a lot lower while taking out a ton of strategy and ruin the game as a whole

But it’s probably a topic that’s best to leave alone or else it’d be the only thing the whole server speak about and cause anarchy

Which is why you should spam “5v5 👍” in every chat room

[little tusk]

dw guys believe in Eqo

I'm sure he'll destroy

destroy my hopes and dreams

[hot onyx]

He will only destroy if Rascal is unavailable or if it’s a genji meta

[sullen berry]

This change is sik

[little tusk]

was shredlock bad

[raw ermine]

He wasn't great.

[next mesa]

he was dog

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO WHORUUUUUUUUUU

[shell tide]

no he wasnt

he was slightly below league avrage but wasnt the titans problem

[shell tide]

think mark

what is he gonna play

[next mesa]

genji

[shell tide]

its literally the same as ertser

[shell tide]

fleta

[next mesa]

whoru genji

[shell tide]

and think

when

will genji

be good

[next mesa]

uh

now?

[shell tide]

remeber when they had to super buff him

[next mesa]

🗿

[shell tide]

hes not

idk wtf told you that

[next mesa]

teams are playing him

[shell tide]

no one plays genji for a reason

[next mesa]

??

[shell tide]

no they dont

[next mesa]

have you watched the matches

[shell tide]

they literally dont

ye

[next mesa]

are you blind or something

uh

[shell tide]

and genji teams lose

[next mesa]

charge

no they dont..?

[shell tide]

charge are a shit team too

[next mesa]

spark?

[shell tide]

spark

again

shit

[next mesa]

Literally

ah yes

[shell tide]

literally

ah yes

[next mesa]

shit but won their matches tho

swept the dragons doe

[shell tide]

shit but won their matches tho
swept the dragons doe

dragons are bad too

[next mesa]

kinda blad

blind*

[shell tide]

if you couldt figure it our

apac is shit this time

[hot onyx]

Dragons are bad

[shell tide]

they dont have the only heroes theyre good at

[shell tide]

yes

no tracer or aombra

literalll their dps's best heroes

[hot onyx]

Echo ashe

[shell tide]

and

[hot onyx]

Mcree mei brawl

[shell tide]

rein is banned bozo

[hot onyx]

Ball brawl ftw dude 5head

Heck even pharah widow

Also lip best hero sombra?

Find any of his emps and that opinion will change

[shell tide]

hes literally the best sombra in the league last year

sorry to tell you but

low light reels dont define a player hun

[hot onyx]

Pretty hard to say that the fact that it’s an achievement for Lip to hit an emp that catches more than 2 players can be brushed off and still class him as best sombra when Heesu Doha and Fits exist

[shell tide]

because emp isnt the onlt thing on sombra

as a seoul fan fitz is way slower in emp charge rate and exceution

lip prolly gets of like a handful more per match

[hot onyx]

Lip is a good sombra until he needs to press q

[shell tide]

id rather 5 2 man then 2 5 man

[hot onyx]

Not trying to make an argument that he is bad

[shell tide]

ik what you mean but im saying youre not giving context

lip builds and uses an emp like every 80 seconds

[hot onyx]

Watch the lad play against Dallas on illios

Can’t remember if it was the finals or the semis but it was the first map

And his emps were physically painful to watch

He hit a total of 2 players with 3 emps

[shell tide]

ye

he has lows for sure

[hot onyx]

When emp is arguably one of the most impactful ultimates in the game and he throws them away like a tracer blink

[shell tide]

but lows dont determine skill

mids do

[hot onyx]

Other than his horrid emps he is excellent

[shell tide]

thats his playstyle its not a weak ness

he spams then

look at him

then look at like fitz or heesu.

he builds and uses them more

you only need 2 or 3

[hot onyx]

That’s an exaggeration

[shell tide]

what

[hot onyx]

You’re speaking as if he builds an emp every team fight

[shell tide]

didnt say everyfight

but if he builds them 10 percent faster over the cousre of a match thats like 3-5 extra emps

and each of thos emps is a good percent team fight

its kinda like how you dont wate for a 6 man grav

[hot onyx]

Yeah and what good does it do when it only hits like 2 or 1 against a decent team that can peel for the hacked players?

[shell tide]

i want you to think

my team has 6 players with cds

their team has 4 players with cds

we still win those

at the owl level every cd is more and more important

a single winsotn bubble can end a fight

[hot onyx]

But in a sombra ditto where the other sombra uses their emp as well Lip loses it

[next mesa]

doha was so much better

[shell tide]

not in s3

just say your a cas and move on

[next mesa]

not talking about s3

[shell tide]

i am

[next mesa]

yeah im not

[hot onyx]

I’m talking overall

[shell tide]

lets use logic

if lip is better s3

and s3 is done

and doha is better s4

and s4 is half done

lip has been bettere for longer

[hot onyx]

Lip was only good season 3 at sombra because there was little to no competition

[shell tide]

not true

what so ever

bqb, yaki, striker, heesu, fitz

[hot onyx]

Let’s analyse who his competition was in apac

[next mesa]

honestly fits emp building has been improving and his usage is much better

[shell tide]

shax

[hot onyx]

Fits

[shell tide]

fitz

[next mesa]

fits*

[shell tide]

and i didnt just say apac3

[hot onyx]

Godsb

Ah fair

[next mesa]

godsb?

[hot onyx]

Haksal

[shell tide]

naw

[hot onyx]

Jinmu

[next mesa]

lets not talk about haksal

[shell tide]

haksal sombra not top tier

[hot onyx]

Architect

[shell tide]

you mean leave

[hot onyx]

Leave as well

[next mesa]

they both play sombra