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You mean kaan?
Yeah kaan is the support daan is the MT
is there any info on overwatch league coming back? Also why is it no longer taking place?
OWL games will start again this weekend
oh damn no way, so i am just in time haha
It'll be streamed on twitch again, right?
Youtube
Np
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/VALORANT_Open_Tour/France/Spring_Qualifier
soon is legit on a valorant team called "graviton surge"
I'm glad he got something to do tho
how good was taimou
he seemed only to be good before OWL
owl started in 2018?
yes
True
Daan feediest feeder
Daan < stand1
And stand1 is lame
yeah basically
Maybe add reinforce? wasnt he on rogue?
player turned analyst turned val player
whose a player turned analyst turned valorant player?
and yeah reinf was on rogue for a bit
Wait im so confused didnt they win this a bit ago against runaway?
it was a really long playoff, it seems
They had a 7 mapper against runaway like 2 weeks ago that I thought was finals
and why was GF a best of 3
yeah it was hella weird
it wasnt against runaway
it was againsttttttttt
frick im forgetting
the one with heesang
I think?
Talon
Apparently they had a king of the hill format
Thats such a wierd format
And why tf was GF won 2-1 by o2
Ohhhhh it was 2 sets to 1
yeah
I need to watch this
Honestly thought the tournament ended when o2 beat runaway
I thought that it was finals
ig im watching 7+ hours of vods before owl starts again
2018 vibes
I just wanna see how pine does
so talon played one game in the finals and lost
they played 3. The first 2 were best 4 out of 9, and the final one was 1 map of control
That site someone made led me to this
If you get rid of gladiators then the top 4 works now
Glads got a super easy June journament
I want glads to succeed but since dallas is so strong I'm ditching everyone in the west (except for Florida for the wholesome content) for dallas once again
yay!
And I guess with all the apac drama over I can go back to not hating chendu
^this was a joke I still want to see the players succeed don't be mad pls
i spoke to @Mano_OWL, who was a delight as always, about joining the Philadelphia @Fusion after so many years with NYXL ⬇️ https://t.co/mqgkhVHn9z
i will always think of super
Jjanggu quicker
@tropic herald this u?
I don’t have a Reddit account
Wouldn't be surprised with that name though 
Damn this person really made a good copypasta but misspelled “EQO” smh
Eqo is average
Everywhere that it says “Yaki”
uh huh
it's still misspelt
you mean rascal?
damn just realized u guys dont have roles
What a tragedy
Your team is barely top 15
Titans>nyxl
i just realized you didnt know the sbb boycott was over
Nyxl is top 3 in fans
by that you must mean top 5 right?
No
Ivy is better
I would def not say fleta
His genji was questionable
And profit was very hot and cold
I'd say eqo is on Doha level
imagine having a eqo level genji be your second best genji on the team
I was rewatching Dallas from last year
Doha genji honestly wasn’t that cracked at all
He had some plays
But a lot of just plain old nothing special
Decay was the superior Genji by all regards
at this point just make the white and grey skin purchaseable
2021 vanc > 2018 vanc
daan>nosmite/benbest
Yeah because there was no titans
they were founded in 2018, played in 2019.
Profit Haksal and Sparkle are my top genjis 
But as of right now it's sparkle at number one since haksal gone and profit not as consistent
😐
Decay was a certified blade bot
Doha was literally putting up top 5 stats on Genji on the one of the worst teams
out of all the top ten genjis, he literally got 0 resources
compared to them
wait Aimgod was a stand in for team cc recently?
that is cool
they had s1 moment going on with woohyal and aimgod
he joined the team april third 2018 
but I am pretty sure neko played over him
this was season 1 stage 3 
I just dont remember him playing s1 so that makes sense
Mistakes kinda cracked
Idk why he retired
I would have him top 5 hitscan s1
Maybe top 3
looking at the 2018 Korea Contenders Season 1 every roster is so stacked its nuts
almost every team has a current top tier player on it
You had KDP Element Mystic and Runaway and X6 lol
it was loaded with nuts players
big stax
dont forget 02
that shit was also stacked as hell
Ivy, Stellar, viol2t im p sure rain,
Bllossom had pre crusty ans and uhh I think illicit
big funs
anyone else find it super depressing to watch when ex owl players all get together in contenders and then get bodied by newer players
like remember revival with apply mcgravy muma fix track and paintbrush lmao
that was a flop
so was benbest kruise nico and boombox on yab so sad
I mean, it makes sense
they are washed ex owl being beaten by the new generation
the circle of life and whatnot
at least the korean players tend to have a bit more success post owl from what ive seen
like London's s3 roster
Although and Sanguinar and Clestyn
Woohyal, aimgod
How does the tournament season system work
Like I know there are 4 tournaments but is there like a big final one after that?
Yea at the end is the playoffs for the entire season to lead up to the Grand finals
And if there is a big final tournament how does winning the small 4 ones affect that
Winning the earlier ones can get you better seeding for the playoffs iirc
Making it so you don't have to play qualifiers, and some extra money
I see
its not the end of the world if you dont win mid season stuff but itll help a lot at the end
So 4 small tournaments to determine seeding and then a qualifiers for the grand final
well uh kinda but not quite that
And winning early season tournaments means better seedings?
ok
so each tourney cycle each team plays 4 games to seed for that tourney
there is 4 of those
so each team plays 16 games and those 16 games help qual you for playoffs
also if you place 1,2,3 in tourneys you get extra wins added to your record to help boost u
ok can someone explain to me how stages work, I have watched old vids of iconic matches and shit but I never watched season 1 or 2 live can someone tell me what a stage title means vs a playoffs title?
I get so confused !
is it just how they split the season like stage 1 then top 8 big playoff tourney, then stage 2 and top eight big playoff and then stage 3 ending with stage 3 playoff which deternines standings for grand final?
that is what I interpreted at least but I don't actually know lmao
I am only curious because I want to know if stage titles mean anything vs grand titles
ah fair
just wondering wtf they were since team pages are like "STAGE 2 2019 CHAMP like a flex and I didn't know wtf it meant lmaoo
Uhhhh they made money
2blizz bucks for 1st place
But the weight of the tournaments didn't matter beyond that. So when Valiant won Stage 4 2018 it didn't really wow people since it was a matter of time before knockout rounds begun.
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Stage title simply was a way to decide who was better at that point of time
Nothing else really and give some teams that couldn't win the big thing to be happy about
Like paris and charge can always say we won a tournament considering they are horrible now, so it gives them a cool legacy
Paris literally scrapped everybody except their general manager from the team idk how they can say that without giggling
stage title is just kinda like a may melee title
trueeee
london won 1st season were decent 2nd season and have been ass ever since
look at boston
Am i reading too far into this
Bc orisa brig
Like double shield
Probably alluding to a joust
why would they know the meta?
idk they have special knowledge
the social media manager?
Changing the subject
If they dont megabuff a character for the summer showdown so the entire meta is built on them ima get pissed
bc that was the most fun shit s3
Genji and Gigahog
I want op widow again
Opinions on the new skins?
And bap?
neutral
As long as it doesnt make music its better than lucio jazzy which is the only other music based skin
So thats smth
I absolutely despise jazzy
The funny part is that’s the skin I got from my legendary anniversary box
That and lone wolf
Gigabuff Pharah so all my favorite teams pound
phara is horrible to watch and play
doom skin is the only one i like
YES LETS DO THIS
I want sparkle to flex
Maybe gigadoom
ball skin dont look that bad
prob the best out of the three imo
I really like the Ball skin
its a basic concept but the design is good
Doom skin is the only one I don’t like
I JUST FOUND OUT IM COMING TO THE STATES NEXT WEEK
NO MORE FUCKING UP MY SLEEP SCHEDALE TO WATCH GAMES
What times are the APAC games in EST?
5 AM IIRC
I'm way more invested in APAC because of the Europe friendliness of their times
Even if I'm rooting for Dallas watching the games at 1 am isn't for me
i can watch na in the evening and apac in the morning. feels great
so im switching timezones by many hours
And im still fucking up my sleep
Fuck this bullshit
What happened to the grandfinals bracket time
Are matches still on that
sparkle can play every dps aside from hard hitscan (widow Ashe cree)
but his comfort picks I would say are Genji Doom Pharah Echo
genji and doom are some of the best in the league. Pharah is prolly decent, but hardly see it. Echo seems decent too. Tracer is good as well
sym is another one he's good at
His Pharah was really good from what I remember
@trail perch welcome to kkona land
His genji doom and pharah are imo THE best in the league
Just from back in contendies, his pharah too
There's a lot of nuts pharahs idk who the best is honestly
There hasn’t been any extended Pharah metas
But Yaki Pelican Sparkle Ttuba Fleta Jinmu all seem viable
Rascal
Dalton
Colorhex
Nero
Kuki
Hydration
Hotba
ShaDowBurn
profit best pharah last season yes only one that played her 😎
EQO
dding best pharah s2 and 3
I’m never going to call profit good
he played her into ans widow, viol2t bap and super ball
I remember one map viol2t swapped to bapt and hard countered his pharah
Busan or something
Im thinking of hanamura
List of fdps players better than Profit: Fleta Rascal Yaki Ivy Sp9rk1e Doha Assassin Pelican Eqo Kevster Nero Eileen Leave Jinmu Kaneki Architect Seominsoo Valentine ChoiSeWan Danteh KSF Hydration Jake Na1st Feath5r Ttuba Colourhex Naga Checkmate Blasè Teru Molanran
I know, I was talking about busan
Honestly isn't pharah/widow a lot more equal
just play around angles and spam
top 1 player is Carpe
yeh carpe been popping ngl
Hey, if you forgot to do your OWL Pick'ems a few times like me, don't worry, THE SCORES RESET for June Joust!
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just gonna have to crush you nerds again, then
Time for me to lose again
Profit is the best player to ever exist
But the 500 dollar and stuff are in the end for all matches right?
Winning the MM means nothing when i win the grand final
widow one taps
and is hitscan which destroys proj
well then widow counters everyone bad argument
sure u can't fly right in widow's face
You’re talking mad trash for someone in Hooreg distance
What, are you, a seoul fan before s3 grand finals?
You’re talking mad trash for someone within profit distance
uwu paris eternal
Ur talking mad trash for someone within OniGod distance
What is that distance?
0
0.5m
So I can fight onigod even at no falloff
does Seoul have a chance at the finals?
grand?
Yes
yeah
probably not. So many teams are better, and they look just meh
yes they do
Think about whose on seoul
Profit, gesture, touyou, fits, creative
these are all players that TURN UP for playoffs
Remember gauntlet touyou? they made it to the finals
owo
Imma just give you a friendly reminder of season 2 playoffs where Spitfire got 4-0’d twice 
Friendly reminder of season 3 playoffs when they got to finals
and season 1 finals where they won
and apex season 4 when they won
They got lucky s3 ngl
50/50 mediocre team all season then get a meta that they are finally able to beat the dragons in
But still lost to shock
tbh there aren't many teams this season that I have no hope for in terms of grand finals performances
there are a lot of teams that could just turn up and win it all
literally that
and the charge too
I haven’t met a non EU fan who thinks Paris is good
shock gonna win it anyways
Oh no he can’t read 😭
Read my message again
Nah, Shock will win one tourney but nothing else
yeah the grand finals
and jj for the upset
Shock need a perfect storm to win grand finals
Dallas could be quite good with these hero bans
Pine arrives sometime in this qual
They can still play Winston, echo, ana and sparkle could play doom or something
in the summer tourney, will there be hero bans?
No
?
?
sorry I was just wondering what you were talking about
what did you meant by the hero bans
june joust has hero bans
sory I thought Yaki said that there wont be hero bans
does OWL just decide who to ban?
june joust is not summer showdown
it's random
and depends on playtime of heroes previously
zen, rein, sombra, and tracer are banned
the names
june =/ summer?
no
or are they just different tournaments
is there a different tournament besides the OWL 4 tournament series
sorry im done
dumb*
we have the may melee, june joust, summer showdown and then the countdown cup
the june joust and countdown cup have hero pools
besides hero pools they're all the exact same
apac and na have a knockout bracket
the winners of na go to hawaii for low ping and then play the apac teams
yeah for some reason we have the MAY melee and JUNE joust
but then the SUMMER showdown and COUNTDOWN cup
0 logic
what
wait it's a real tweet
it's real
but like
aren't jjangu and piggy really good
why would they need another main tank
Dreamer probably does better in some tank than Jjangu
was there a specific tank jjangu underperformed on?
maybe for orisa? idk
omg wtf
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a rein OTP
It's a weird pickup
1 for more slow maps and 1 for more dive things
and a everything else
could be that junkbuck is trying to copy that
why would it mean that?
wait
Dreamer for orisa ball probably
yeah
jjanggu already play orisa, rein, winston and ball
is dreamer better winston/ball than jjanggu?
how much orisa did jj play tho
i am just glad that old valiant guys are getting teams
almost everyone got teams except rain i think
intimidating stature
You’re all celebrating now but they’re gonna pull a Fusion and release the other main tank in exchange for the new one
Okay but Dreamer Winston good
Think it’s safe to say, they bring the fire 🔥
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Why are they hyping this one up so much
good question
yeah idk they won't shut up about it
Fusion will probably stomp it won't even be fair
Bc they where the og rivals
Also I think that NYXL will be rly good now
I might be inhaling massive amounts of copium, but I think that they figured out all the new player kinks
I wish I knew, mister team cat profile pic
As far as OG rivalries go, it would have to be a way to mislead people who still believe Pine has returned to NYXL, not dallas
😭
I'm sure Adam was better than McGravy at least but he got hard fucked by immortals and then wasn't good enough to make any other team sadge
Back to au contenders jail
His mental must've been rekt for a bit, that's like getting a letter that you made it into Harvard and then they send a second letter saying Harvard is closing permanently lmao
Comparing the LAV to harvard is a bit of an overstatement
NYXL has the potential to be good
They just aren't achieving it as hard as they should be
Tanks have never been there strong point but their tanks are mediocre
Flora and Friday are kinda bad
No they don’t wym
I compare to Harvard because for a region as dead as Australia, getting out of it to an owl team is like striking it big and making Harvard in a way lmao
Must suck ass to be the best player in a dead region
Geographical location diff
South American Top 500 moment
South America and Australian Contenders are so dead that at times many teams have been half or almost entirely na players that couldn't make any other rosters

It has all the regions I just happened to be looking at china
Pretty sure china is the only region with games coming up atm tho
The others all just finished their playoffs recently
So Contenders in 2.5 hours?
Fuck contendies
Did they change their entire coaching staff?
No
So they're still shit
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i love the hype vid but why nyxl and fusion
there's no way this is gonna be close
Is jjonak even still good
Yakpung was good in contenders it’s just Whynot has perfected the art of sucking talent out of promising players from IMT
mano, hotba, bianca, jjonak, anamo, libero, sbb, nenne, haksal, whoru
and he still managed to win nothing
Don’t forget Mandu smh
i remember when people were hyped for him lmao
Best player on that roster
he was supposed to be some aggro lucio god
but got benched again after 2 games for anamo
charge and nyxl are similar
for some reason got rid of almost all superstar players
and replaced them with middle or bottom tier players
Ivy middle tier now ig
I hope the Charge can do better with new coaching
kinda is
fusion didn't need a medium tier flex dps in ivy
when u have a top tier fdps in eqo
I don't expect Spark levels of improvement but at least they should be able to beat someone other than Valiant
Charge win the playoffs I’ll wait for the praise as the chats prophet
Top tier is an understatement
do the hand thing luigi
sorry idk if ur agreeing with me but marbel wanted this
ty
As a deluded Fusion fan I’m higher on EQO than you can comprehend since I rated them 4th in the overall rankings before there was any inkling about Rascal coming back to the league so yes I’m agreeing with you
But the hand thing is always a treat
If he starts over Rascal for a mei comp I’m gonna sign a petition to bring KDG back
But mans got his own niche with genji and echo
Big Boss Pine is back 
Honestly I struggle to even find a reason to rate Jjonak in the top 10 other than his past
nyxl looks like a mid contenders team without jjonak
Could he really take a spot from Alarm Twilight Gangnamjin Shu Izayaki Viol2t Fielder MMonk Farway or Creative?
With how mediocre his bap is and how the rest of his heroes are starting to fall off
Hey take that back Friday MVP 2021
when they are the next world overwatch
what is smh
shaking my hog
so many hamsters
ANNOUNCE OVERWATCH F2P NOW
Raise comp lvl then plz
You mean never
oof
just make it 100
I reckon it’ll be a widow skin for June joust idk
I hope someone like sig gets one
Any tank in general tbh
well
not ball or hog but other than those two
Wasn’t there supposed to be like an announcement about pvp or something today?
p surey es
sure yes*
i think at 5 est or something idk
and then the 24th has a QnA
Nice thanks
1 and a half hours left
Oh it ends at 5
12 PST
!!ow2stream
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This is 12pm PT, 3pm ET, 9pm CEST, 5am AEST.
Countdown: 1 hour, 30 minutes ✨
Yay
they really do be skipping CST on there
R/OVERWATCH BOTS BE LIKE: ✨ hello ✨
CST is IRellAVemt
pls blizzard give us anything
true
that's a lot of something
Yeha that’ll be nice
isn't super joining them
i don't remember who's going to be there
Maybe about the clan system?
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Clans probably won't be announced
this is pvp
5v5
you think they will have a vod of the stream?
Maybe?
u
so role passives, new massive changes, maybe maps? idk
CHARACTERS???
im betting on tournaments
if we don't get a new hero i'm legit done
if it's a showcase on pvp, then i doubt you'll see a new hero
me
dissing a mod, bold
hey i said politely
you might get your name changed to "nerd"
So its fine
calling an admin a mod even bolder
yeah Mano?
don't insult me LiKe ThAt
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Grike how do you not have regular?
cause he's irregular
"badum tsss"
Maybe I am supposed to talk in other chats more?
Anybody excited for the games today?
Yes, me and luigi will cry
im down for that
OWL games today?
Personally I don’t care until the Houston games but
Well where I am they are today but maybe not everywhere
bit-ches
ban that mods
why are you talking about OWL in the contenders discussion chat?
who ston?
gonna be fun when super keeps on dropping f-bombs on a official overwatch broadcast
This
Uncle Aaron is cool with the cursing
yeah but ads and shit
He's your cool uncle that lets you stay up late and watch Adult Swim
(Insert uncle joke here)
sounds like you're missing out
im sorry for not being born in NA
Boo
nice deleted tweet
Get wrekt
what the fuck is his pfp
Penguin
The hell poko
oh wait its supposed to be a dva penguin, not a moaning penguin

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YT is up
Other people are saying he’s in korea but idk if he actually is
Pvp
I thought it only started at 12 pst
We can wait there and complain about it not starting yet and asking when it starts though
My favorite part of these things
forgot how epic this cinematic is
another one bites the dust
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owl link
rip btw
oh shit
rip yab
poko coming to kr?
no poko is going to south america
get a vpn
come to brazil
wait for what
do we know why
t minus 60 seconds
most people focus on kr contenders
new maps
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
passives prob
oh god
5v5
no way
Fucking fuckity fuck
holy shit
they fixed q times
yes
5v5
I quit the fucking game
???????????
so tanks all either get super buffed
Why the fuck would they do this
or tanks are fuckin useless
You have to be fucking kidding me
wait but like
rip off tanks
it's a skill based game
u can't just remove 2 players from every game
to make it easier
u can
So many players are about to lose there jobs
its gonna be so refreshing
some tanks are legit never getting played ever again
needed change
What is happening
you underestimate how this will improve ranked
Is everything 5v5
yeah but how
in ow2
Wow
i really liked how you had 2 of every role
I hope theres at least a classic mode or workshop where you can do 6v6
no
this looks so fun
so scuffed what the fuck
we're like 3 years later
but only like half of the heroes have updated portraits
what the fuck is that about
the kill-feed
if it ow2 stays 5v5 every OT player
in the league is gone
what a stupid fucking change
lmfao
nah
Could be. Some might become main tank for the old tanks off but idk
this game needed a change
Man so many owl players are gonna be out of jobs
Or will have such a reduced pay cut
they will adapt
They will adapt sure
how will they adapt?
stop overreacting
what? even if they adapted many players would still be dropped
and?
people will actually care abou the game again
goood for pros
contenders will get boost
wdym and? they are literally eliminating a role and fucking over 1/6th of the pro scene
streaming is more profitable
Yea who wants to play for a owl team when you can play for tier 2
youre delusional
about what?
about owl players losing their job
almost all OT players will
do you realise how hard it is to make a living off streaming?
1sided take
this si gonna put so much pressure on the 1 tank
but people watch good players
they can't depend on a off-tank
how? by giving rid of one role they are basically screwing over every player in that role
the shock have 3 tanks
they are still tank players
also i really want new heroes, if not this stream is so scuffed
2 of those players will be out of a job
you have to be trolling right
aight
we know how they balance
some tanks get powercrept
How can you think one less tank is good and Atlanta is good
How can you be so blind
even hog was meta
lol didnt notice
jeff left a sinking ship
im not blind
im just hyped for change
feels like a new game
if you want to have the same shit for 5 years
have fun
bro i used to play tf2
i dont like change
the only thing i dont want to change is you
Imagine spending 5 years to perfect your role.....Just for it to be deleted while knowing your role does not translate to another your expected to give all you got till the end of season (:
facts
im prob too egoistic
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Damn so many players already being sad yikes
what the fuck
And everything
is stylosa still alive
Yea i think
dm me
But no more shatter dva bombs
No more grav bombs
If streaming community dies the game will die like how it did before
because a unpopular role is getting removed people are acting like they dont care
imagine the malding if they made it 1 dps instead of 2
they literally adressed all problems with this change
OWL Tank players seeing half their jobs evaporate right now https://t.co/8DakfkPVAa
i only hear what i want to hear
you wanna hear how good you look





