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He was the worst main tank in the league
It was a mediocre roster riding off the hype of stage 4
his best
Roar was so bad
From when corey ass fucked teams
imagine going from r0ar ellivote to mag fury
In 2020????
I can’t believe
He was the worst starting main tank
R0ar was the worst
You said that Stratus was an A tier fdps
It’s comparing two piles of shit but Roar was def worse
naw
least he didnt get benched for a dps
and 2020 roar wasnt good no
but watch the games3
Who on justice was going to bench roar
he wasnt that bad
idk ttuba
stithc?
they couldve kept janus
I'm going to just assume you're trolling
no
i genuinly think roar in s2 was bad but usable
if he was anything but mt it wouldnt be a big deal
and as a fl fan the worst mt was swon that year
s3 muma
js=ust fed
all game
thats it
can i be honest here
if you have as much time to play
and coaching resorucres as owl players
you should be perfect
like not even a joke
you can lose matches
but indivudual mistakes shouldnt happen
I feel like Ellivote was the weak link in his team during the tournament
He died early in so many fights
Someone has to be the worst
Eventually you have to have a mistake happen in order for someone to win
not really
everytime some one dies isnt a mistake
if they have 6 ults and you dont
doesnt matter what you do
you die
which is ok
you used 3, they used 2, the 2 they used were window and shatter, they come in to poke and get those back but zarya did most of the dmg for them to get window so you have no ults
but you dint get what i mean
think like this
instead of roar getting shattered with full shield
think great bamboozle
its not a siimple indivual mistake
everyone playerd their heroes right
but sure4 op
eeeh carter
no
swon
and before muma full fed it was jmac
His only redeeming play was when he baited half of paris back to their spawn so outlaws could cap point
Who is swon
I’m worried about the match the next day because I arrived today and haven't been to the practice room 🥲
1655
from s2, when florida was shit. He was shit
like
dalls no need training
worst rein
yes, but because mum aswon and jmac exists he was never worse
bad not worst
Yeah thats fair
Swon was very very very meh in contenders
And downright bad in owl
Yo what
Dw apac teams get to sit at home in their own facilities
Tbh this is the only reason I dislike teams having to travel for grand finals
Gives home teams a sizeable advantage imo
What about Roshan and cocco
nvm it isn't
cocco was good on orisa and nothing else which was mostly beacuse dallas had no syngery, and i have heard of roshan but never seen him play
rain by far
never seen him play
sry
and i dont think im gonna watch a game where i know who loses
ROSHAN WAS TOO GOOD FOR HIS TIME
HE EXISTED ON A DIFFERENT PLANE OF EXISTANCE
HIS WINSTON>>>>
Yes
Hey so me and my friend have lately been thinking about starting to play Overwatch but he says that it's been dying lately (mainly bcs he looks at the twitch viewership numbers). Can anyone show me a good source with an activate playerbase timeline graph or simply tell me based off their own experience how the numbers have decreased/increased?
5m overwatch?
I saw a stat saying 10,000,000 mau a while back
Probs a decent portion yeah
10m, is that west only?
No
or china included
Pretty sure it includes China
oh man...
It’s still pretty good
Esp since we’ve had no content for like a year
Blizzard is making a sequel to overwatch, but this is causing the normal content we get for overwatch is decreasing to a minimum. This is causing some people to be angered, and the sequel won't be out til 2022, so this is causing people to leave. Its not dead, but suffering. Despite this, OW is still a unique and popular game, and people are still playing it a ton, although it's true twitch viewership is down. if you really wanna play, go ahead and get it, or you might wanna wait til tje sequel, it could come F2P.
the*
only 6 more hours bois!
I hope so
True
You can tell dallas will dominate this season cuz they are doing incredibly well with no top level tracer nor and sort of hitscan in a hitscan tracer meta
no, thats not a logical statment
butterfly effect
if xz was still playing other teams would have different strgenght levels
thats like saying if i went back in time and killed hitler the world would be the exact same just without the holocaust
BREAKING: The Overwatch League's four China-based teams will no longer boycott the Seoul Dynasty in any competitions or events.
“The teams have agreed to resume normal activities with one another,” a league spokesperson told The Post.
https://t.co/6cVn5JWRy3
Sbb>
SBB just won a 1 v 100
SBB didn't even do anything
more likely Blizzard ironed it out
Lmao
Yeah blizzard probably told the teams to get their shit together behind the scenes
or it's possible that they just wanted to make a statement and knew all along it would be temporary
Yea the league probabaly got really pissy
who knows for sure
It's odd but good
U saying they used SBB as a example?
kinda
I'm just saying they said it would be indefinite and knew all along it would only be temporary.
On mine the encore matches are at the same time
i think its bug
Imagine going through 9 months of pregnancy with all the mood swings, cravings, weight gain, braxton hicks and the gut wrenching pain of labour for over an hour only for your baby to come out of the womb and think “Aw he’s so cute, I think I’ll name him Ian”
yo what the FUCK
Imagine Luigis name is Ian

im pretty sure mr sans knows that
Ian is a very cool name
im not even being annoying
could be worse
more like 2024
imo
Honestly only knew that someone here was named Ian but didn’t know who
So I took a punt and got the right one 
Seoul made a statement
ok
''the right one'' 
thats not a statement
a statment is saying something
thats just words
Wait why were they boycotting seoul?
imagine being a country of 1.3 billion and not being able to take criticism online
maybe scrims lost?
'resume'
seoul wasn't even doing anything important
bruh chances are they play like 1-2 scrims a day against the other teams
they lost like maybe 6 hours of scrimming
and said 'ok thats it'
so 6 minutes
They lost the warmup deathmatch in which sbb was playing
sbb > profit
Hi all -- I'm one of the Post reporters that wrote the article above (will link again). Happy to answer any questions and thanks for reading.
@little tusk I haven't heard back from Seoul but that's not something I've heard from OWL or other teams in my reporting.
Why did this blow over so quickly? did OWL do really good mediation or did SBB apologize again, in a better way?
@raw ermine I think part of that question is subjective, ya know? What I can say is OWL met with the teams to come to a mutual agreement and stop the boycotts.
I'm not aware of SBB apologizing again and such.
I guess, it's just with the how quickly the chinese teams acted to boycott him in the first place, the fact that it ended this quickly in such a clean way (from the outside), it looks suspicious.

Well, you know, re: timing @raw ermine -- The Chinese teams announced the boycott two weeks after SBB posted an apology on Instagram.
hmm. The timing is odd on that. I assumed it was much quicker.
now this is a tough esports moment
I’m not really sure what people are trying to get out of all the teams posting the same statement
looks like they all begrudgingly did it
I am just glad they didnt drop sbb
What are they even saying
What’s the statement about
Context?
lemme find my old message
SBB implied he didn't support a unified china (AKA he wanted taiwan and hong kong to stay separate from china), which pissed off every chinese OWL team, who stated they refuse to participate in events with SBB (no they probably won't forfeit matches again seoul, but scrims with seoul and their academy teams won't happen likely)
^this was said before the reconciliation
Did they unsay this or they still say this
all chinese teams released tweets saying they have solved the situation
as well as seoul
could just be that they only did the whole thing in the start and now that it has died down, they can let it go
5 hours and a half to go
I wonder
EU is f*cked
Encore it is, Actually nah, I'll see if I can wake up at 4 am
Why can't I submit my bracket when I pick the scores still. I end up at the finals and the button is gray
no
stay up with me

I tried lately to stay up
But I can't
Some days I can stay up all night, but other days I start watching owl, I forget and then I sleep
i wasn't gonna be able to watch any match live
because work
but then someone in my family got covid and now i can stay home and watch
Lmao
Modern problems require modern solutions

the final is first to 4 not first to 3
okay guys...who do you want to win and who do you think is gonna win?
you saying neptuno is worst part of paris and then neptuno leaves like the very next day 
like yesterday you said you would take kellex over neptuno
and boom he gone

loll
im halo now ig
Luigi is paris coaching staff
wait neptuno left?
yeah
damn , they might win more games now
he didn't look very comfortable in that captain position but at the same time even if they had a dif player I thought they performed exactly how I expected?
they really didn't go above or below expectations, does he think if they had someone like astro they would have won more or something because I doubt it
i have faith
if we get a good ms
that can keep kaan and daan in check
they might legit be good
what eu supports are there besides like Kruise omegalul
astro
astro
what if
..
astro fucking joins paris
I mean ones that aren't locked into 100k contracts
i would actually nut
Kaan Astro is actually an A tier support line, but astro contract is easily above the minimum paris will offer lmao
Kaan is the best player on paris no cap
if philly calls it quits on its euro players either euro team could hella benefit
i really doubt poko or astro would want to join london
for any amount of money
london just looks bad
and poko is ot and the offtank for london is prolly their best player imo
but I can't vote for the final it doesn't let me it's like out of space
I see half of the final vote card
Show screen
Tbh if the best euro players joined up and made a team Eu as a region wouldn't be shit on so much lmao
team of best euro players could be cracked
But both eu team's are just t2 teams minus Iike a couple players
London putting full stonks into hybrid was a bruh moment
Why you do dat
I know they just need a cheap filler until sparkr is of age but they chose a really had cheap filler
Also boombox
loooool
tbf i do that all the time in comp
I mean shockwave and shax and Kai are all Eu as well
so dps would be cool 😎
now that i think of it
Who even plays Eu main support besides astro lmao
kinda decent dps then ngl
besides like paris and london
I can't think of one
most of the eu players are on higher rated teams
boombox
He's flex I think
kellex
the rest of the team is like top tier
benbest poko is a really handsome tankline sheesh
Get cloudy for occasional rein meta 
the tanks are very meh
You could also have cloudy as a backup
Cloudy rein is nutty
I wish there was money for specialists this season I remember last year teams would have specific players just for mei or just for rein or just for one hero
chipsa 
u dont rlly want that this season with just 16 games
who is the mei on toronto
Had last season I meant
he plays every projectile and tracer
Not has
ohh

god i hate this
Didn't hey have like a euro guy play mei over Agilities
23:35
it starts at 4 am
shut the fuck up levy
you are weak
Masaa is an Eu main support I just remembered lmao
Fuck these shitty times
Why does eu have all the one trick players. Chipsa, ball, yzsna, and I think bastion main are all Eu
It's close enough 
can't post pictures
I mean he plays Eu servers I think
Quick stats thread before the Play-offs tonight!
The @washjustice kept up some great performances despite being 1 of only 2 teams that have played BOTH western teams now in Hawaii (@SFShock are the other team).
Today's thoughts are on which stats to look at for at each role:
Or doesn't he do the na 200 ping lmao
damn so if i play on asian servers i become asian???
nevermidn I figerd it out
Yes
In my brain middle east closer to Europe than Asia because there's not very many players from Pakistan or India so when I see middle east I think like turkey Saudi area which is far closer to Eu
My brain bad ok

american education 
You are about to tell me you can make more than one roster of players from ME
Also
There used to be Middle Eastern servers that were so dog I had to spend like 5 hours blocking myself from accidentky joining them and dying from the mic spam
Oni is farther in the red than Diem
Dalton > Diem 
Can you guys read colors

Referring to final blows in a /s way
I know what middle east is Luigi but in overwatch me players are often put in Eu region 
So I just blanketly think of them as Eu

That thread has some useful stats with helpful graphs
Basically the teams who made Hawaii have good players
can u link us?
@plush grail
...
i'm gonna find every graph where paris does well and look at it daily
Daily affirmations
me has their own server in eu, thats where i play
pakistan doesnt have a server, wymm
i will make pakistan great!
Also I wonder if super is so high up because of dallas/atl games
If rein gets banned for june then hell yea
After how hard justice got rolled It seems they won't be too hard for shock
rolled by dallas
yes
I played with a Pakistani guy on the general middle east server I meant
And it was balls
For both of us lmao
@plush grail
i dont know if i have seen him on any other hero besides rein
hybrid > onigod
okay who asked
exit the chat lily
the adults are talking
The matches are so late
no i have to cry now
do not

Also doom and bap skin have not dropped for me and I've watched like 4 streams all the way through now 
Hawaii is pretty good times for most of Asia
Idk why na complaining even east coast is only like 11pm 
Just west Asia fucked
im east coast its 9:30
west coast would be like
12am doe
which is not ideal
Other way levy
West coast na starts at 7pm 
Today’s lesson in #esports-discussion: time zones
East coast Na
east coast best coast
That’s what most us people call it
Yes

I live in an america centric world 
west coast is slower
why do americans always have to be special
Because we hate ourselves
West coast na gets the best of time zones, until the usual apac games start at 2am

America invented special
lip makin diem irrelevant highkey

until carpe pulls out the widow and owns lip
then diem relevant again
Shut up about Paris Challenge (impossible)

low maintenance
never gonna happen
paris needs to be praised
They didn’t even make knockouts
neither did la glads
your team does it for me
Perpetual limbo of good team meh results 🥸
how does it feel knowing paris is a better team
paris won tho
Neko followed NoHill
whos neko
Do you pay attention to OW
ofc i know him
team cc guy
but wasn't there some stuff about him
he posted some weird shit
Ah yes
Guangzhou care about their publicity
They have a pyramid scheme as a sponsor and signed Krystal in the same week iirc
a team like paris has perfect publicity
if weird shit on twitter mattered dafran and a particular off tank would be unemployed

Sado

who
Probably Harb
is harb that weird on twitter?
????
wasn't he claiming that vaccines were bullshit on stream lmao
I’ll dm Twitter thread if you wanna know
please do
i hate space
give me more reasons to hate
why are overwatch players so cringe

I get he is supposed to stir shit up for drama and clout character but im surprised atlanta still keeps dafran on lmao
wasn't he dropped a while ago
y i k e s
he's still signed holy shit
atlanta should drop him asap
😎 probably makes far too much money since he is one of the more popular streamers of an org
He doesn’t have any Atlanta branding on his socials
liquidpedia says he is signed as a streamer
and I don't recall him being dropped specifically
hmm
i really doubt he is still signed
contract probably expired
never announced on social media
at least i hope so
crazy to think he soon and neptuno are all very close in age lmao
maturity do be night and day
someone who quits a team on his own termsafter he underperforms
vs
someone who's a sexist bitch and throws game because he's too dumb to just ask out of the contract
Can i have that aswell pls
still have 3 hours until the matches
imagine if you were a justice fan but all their owl skins looked bad
True
I am not a fan of any particular team so that way when a team does bad I don't have to face it 
unlike some other Paris or Boston fans around here 

shut
Who plays first today???
shanghai vs florida
Did Sleepy do something recently? Why is he a top searched for thing on Liquipedia under Overwatch today?
I was wondering
no big things happening rn
probably just top searched because he's a big ex-owl streamer
probably mentioned something about owl
in a stream
i know he has been streaming with the OTV and Hafu Crew groups
but thats been for months now
Hopefully Shanghai pull thru today
yea
I think Mayhem is the expected to win
dont wanna see a repeat of last seasons playoff
That shanghai vs philly game was so crazy that I’ve put my faith into them now
yea
Philly was just so unlucky tbh
it would be extra great if MAYhem won MAY MElee
that sounds fun but no
Carpe and mano played some of the best overwatch I’ve ever seen
Facts
he was getting caught so much
Yea
also rascal constantly getting slept was funny
It was so nice seeing a variety of comps too from that game
yea btw which comp do you think mayhem is better on compared to dragons?
like i think there monkey comp is better with dva instead of zarya
Yea I agree but I still don’t think it will be enough to win tho
if bqb can be contained and i think lip can do that
shanghai can and should win this
I may just be overrating shanghai from the philly game but it’s feels like they’re so versatile and strong at every position
True
thats basically last seasons team and last seasons shanghai fucked up everyone
I watch some of the analysts and casters streams as they pick their bracket. Many said that Shanghai isnt looking too great and that Philly more or less threw and that Mayhem is looking great on more compositions than other teams.
Mayhem was just a mtd against the justice tbh
the opinions on the other teams seems to vary.
tbh philly did kinda threw but shanghai adjusting and then taking advantage is what makes a good team
Shanghai was clutch
like to some team you can throw and they would still lose
Facts
but shanghai took advantage of that and specially that gibraltr extra time push was 10/10 from shanghai
they didnt let philly breathe and the only reason shanghai couldnt cap it is because the last point is so far from the door that carpe had enough time to adjust and get free shots
i do have mayhem and shanghai in the grand finals but have mayhem winning
ooo
Oof
i have dragons vs fuel in the finals
Bro I hope fuel win so badly
i dont think fuel has much of a chance against hunters
but my final score is gonna fk me up
i went fuel 4-2 over shanghai
simply because i want fuel to win
this team just deserve it more
I don’t think anyone wants them to lose
anyone that believe in a happy ending shouldnt atleast
Fearless is insane
and I dont think Fuel had that hard of a run so far
wym
I thought not having xzi would be fatal for them but they’ve done so good without him
shock was not looking good, seemed like 2 of their players, or at least Choi had a very off day.
and Outlaws are Outlaws
one is 4-0 in the rankings and one is shock
nah you cant say outlaws is outlaws this season they actually look good
I have mayhem winning
this isnt the same outlaws from last 3 years
Outlaws has a history of hit or miss
The excuse shock played bad is significantly undermining Dallas achievement
I think chengdu are going to curbstomp dallas
Sparkle pharah>jinmu pharah
No
depends on what fuel does to counter jinmu pharah
Probs ignore him
does Fuel have a good hitscan?
No
fuel doesnt have a hit scan at all
and guess what Hunters love?
They’ve been doing so good with Mei and sym tho
Pharmercy
tbh ignoring the pharah considering how fuel play might work out
they are so aggresive that if they just finish the ground fight quickly
they wont have to worry about taking care of pharah
No Match should be a sweep
hopefully, Shock seemed indecisive against the fuel. maybe Hunters will be the same
and putting violet on dps doesnt help
tbh both team admitted that fuel just played a better game
both shock and houston
Yea
and also they make the excuse of practicing for each other
I feel like the only reason they have violet on dps is so the twitter page can just abuse the memes they have stockpiled for when they win with him playing dps
I can see mayhem shanghai either being close or being a complete sweep from mayhem
Tripping
Same with chengdu vs dallas
plus Viol2t only plays Mccree on dps. think it became predictable
I am 100% sure chengdu will curbstomp everyone until they get rolled by mayhem in the final
i have #1 Mayhem, #2 Shanghai, #3 Hunters, #4 Fuel for this
1,5 hours left pog
why do people have mayhem so high
yaki
he's overrated
u r not real
what
Florida are overrated 🙂
my man
welp, get ready for the Fuel tradition to continue
I picked Fuel for win idk I was just really impressed how they got so good in such short amount of time and win without a hitscan in the current meta
I have hunters #1 fuel #2
fuel will win it all
Either win or second 🥈
who
who
The hours count from now?
Or it counts when the first game starts
In like an hour
Says the rewards are connected so probably starts now
Even if it doesn’t you still get fat !drops
Let's see how crazy I am.
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oh yeah wasn't maple syrup like mudkip and fishcake bein funny or something
I don't remember
this music bang tho
what the fuck are you on
nah he's right
the two australian contenders supports
maple and syrup
are mudkip and fishcake
from na

but mudkip is now officially named Renko
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
I did it dw

owl viewing part gogogogogo
lets go time for people who don't care about blizzard or overwatch at all to hijack chat with hong kong stuff lets go

we love it
luigi come back
plus this all these matched have encore parts as well will be able to get even more coins, thats how it works right ?
i cant hear shit out of my left
yes
time for people who dont care about hong kong
who isnt ?
lol
you can care about hong kong and not spam youtube chat with it

sideshow boutta destroy yaki
bet

dont worry, they're here for the tokens too
youtube chat: ! D R O P S
anyone know why they’re spamming #westandwithsbb in league chat

somethin to do with chinese teams not wanting to play with sbb
who’s sbb
SBB said something that pissed of chinese teams, they boycotted him, now they're ok, so idk why they're still spamming
saebyeolbe
that’s wacky
yeah
chinese orgs salty about something he said, and then they backed down on twitter but arm chair activists in america will jump on any opportunity to stand with hong kong when it gives them moral high ground lmao
thanks for letting me know
typical internet to keep caring about something when the people affected no longer care
basically he is in the right, but silly people are spamming chat and making themselves insufferable
god chat is going to be so toxic if an Apac team wins
feels bad now because sbb basically ruined it for the players of the dragons and chengdu in a way
no matter what they win this tourney they will be shit on
granted the orgs are the problem obviously
is youtube chat really representative of the majority of OWL viewers??
but the situation is shitty
10k$?????
because most OWL viewers are from china
What?
mfw I realize sideshow is talking to himself because yaki does not understand a word he says

i like how sideshow is the one in the jersey
daytime lijang is cursed
sideshow scrimming with dragons?
it is first to 15 so if they continue to engage from that distance this is going to take like 30 minutes lmao
why were there no pickems for this match
loll
sideshow needs to gain some altitude
sideshow boomed
ahahahahhaa
wtf
mental cracked
who do yall think is gonna win
dragons ofc
do teams in contenders even make 10k lmao
That ad always weirds me out
wait
lmao damn. yaki just made that in a few minutes.
how do you split 10k between 6 people?
idk
by splitting 10k by 6
but its not an even split
if shanghai wins, i think we all just need to take a moment with the fact the worst team with a 40 loss streak came all the way to winning the championship
who carries SHD?
all of the players carry
the michigan esports
tbh i would say dallas takes it if it werent for the fact that theyre fighting chengdu
theres no michigan team
...
Cause dallas is my favorite team
okay so first you want to make sure you can qualify for open division
are they fr?

bruv they really think dallas beats chengdu
My cp is -2
either make or join an OD team and then there's this thing where teams can get promoted up to contenders
They better be memeing
how tf are they gonna deal with the pharah

ikr
Mcree
then after you join contenders, build a strong social media presence
Or ashe
lmao
get noticed by the fuel and youll do tryouts
at least to a owl level
and then you get signed ez
Lol does this guy even watch owl
So I scream racial slurs on Twitter got it
put viol2t on cree

okay I think he's memeing
good one lmao
yes because viol2t is on dallas
alarm takes this dub
Its true I will become famous if I scream nig
Ht in shining armor
also the sym strats they pulled against houston and shock prob arent gonna work against chengdu
Thoughts on the Caster group we have today?
who?
i think they take a map at best
who are the casters
Soe, Reinforce, couple others
Hey which team is architect on
those are analysts arent they?
spark
idk
Damn
he left sfs
Spark
what
no
lmao
No 
architect genji??
does he even play genji
Sparkle eqo rascal all say hi
never seen him play genji
i think ive seen it like twice
He was Shocks only genji player before Rascal started practising for the Countdown Cup



