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im gonna change my pickems just for this
i think i predict china to win. so either i win because my preds are right or because china wont win
Idc who wins
Tbf I can see how people would be offended but... it's not that deep
This is so deep, thank you for opening my third eye
I want an oge redemption arc
thankfully I think dallas will win
I am also okay with that
I want NA to win
God imagine being benched and then get so little playing time people think you are being traded I really hope Glister is traded at this point otherwise his mental gonna be fucked lmao
I just want to be able to spam this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/819580043348672552/838869357618659398/mayhem.mp4
Glister is the ans replacement
The ashe/widow stuff
Viol2t on cree is probably a scrim strat they like
whether it be synergy or playstyle
I still have faith in Crusty, but if Shock has major problems the next time they play then that'll make me wonder

Was Junkbuck the Spielberg to Crusty's Lucas 
junkbuck is a solid coach
did you get it off reddit?
but houston also got shit on like shock so who knows
Shamelessly stolen from reddit
knew it
Yeah exactly knight
Maybe rush hit the bigger crackpipe
TRUST THE CRUST
shock also seem a little bit boomed
FREE HONG KONG
anytime honey
Rush was the coach that made paris good all along?????
?!?!?!?!?
no wayy
maybe rush and ninek both good
W
Dallas actually bogged everyone's stats for power rankings
Florida has #1 in each role
florida above dallas? hm
where do you get that idea
there are multiple apac teams higher than NA teams
it was just a bit of a thought given that chengdu was already doing so well, and remained going to the top 4
while mayhem and dallas had to win their way up
based on total wins and map differentials, I would expect chengdu to be number one
though I don't know exactly how the system is weighing everything
true
I mean, one could also argue it is weighing na too highly
just the way I was thinking, chengdu would be number one currently
based on wins and map differential
and the fact that they are in the tournament
molanran LUL
Molanran 
imagine being above striker on solo kills LUL
These stats do show that decay is the real deal
Idk why people keep saying he’s overrated
Because its fun to say he is overrated i guess
I agree with the fact that he is insane, however I do think he’s just a bit overrated
Yea decay got to face a rough looking fuel, titans, toronto, and boston
he better have some nice fucking stats vs them lmao
Then he got rolled by mayhem lul
Well dallas beating shock and houston on the same day shouldn't have happen aswell
But yesterday was a fun day of ow
Nah Florida beating Justice made sense
Like the teams are pretty even
Also finished my bracket so you guys can pick the opposite of me and prosper 😤✊
pickem brackets or just in general
For May melee
Nah i am just gonna pick some random stuff. Got me 96 points
No
Plot of this tourney is Shanghai redemption, Dallas arc is for July
I cant see dallas beating jinmmu pharah

Similar to mine. I have dallas over florida and shanghai over hunters in finals
I just personally cannot see either na roster able to match the level of play coming from these apac, Florida is pretty good but they have weaknesses, Dallas are not nearly flexible enough so unless fearless pulls something out I can't really see that either
and then in a final apac showdown I see chengdu just having a stronger dive comp than shanghai

as long as Chengdu doesn't have to play rush they should be fine and considering what dallas is running I imagine they should be able to win on their comp
but, if in the off chance chengdu has to play florida and mirror rather than thier usual comp
I have a feeling florida could win that
I think the finals factor and fleta saves shanghai
I think that Roolf will bribe the production with his life savings to make the match between Titans and OAB from eu contenders to get their first ever owl title 
That's fair im not 100 percent in my chengdu prediction because shanghai really pulled it together and should have the roster advantage but chengdu has been playing really really well. Kaneki Jinmu Leave Jimmy vs Fleta Lip Diem Erster could go either way honestly
Same with support lineup, like they have very comparable lineups there
Farway Nisha Yveltal monk vs leejaegon iziyaki molly
I'm cheering for Dallas and Mayhem
because you like them or because the whole sbb thing?
Both
because in all honesty i just support the players and felta, lip , izayaki and void are 10/10
Sbb just stated his own political views and no Chinese team wants to do anything with him? I’m unclear on this situation, a summary would be helpful
sparkle pharah
Chinese are raised to support the ccp, the ccp doesn't recognize Hong Kong and Taiwan as their own states, SBB supported their independence and the chinese orgs all threw a fit

Ah ok thanks
Sbb basically said on stream he has to be a chinese pet if he wants chinese money, and now all four of the chinese teams are boycotting him, refusing to scrim with seoul, the shanghai account even unfollowed seoul etc.
Ok thanks for making it clearer
Essentially talked about how the chinese government has control over you and you have to bend the knee to them if you want da money

Based as fuck tho fuck the ccp
I refuse to believe sigma is playing on ping
dude is fucking nuts
Sbb being boycotted
For telling the truth
And after being forced to apologize
Cruel world we live in
I only saw the clip in which he dies after zen trances his pulse into him
rip lmaoo
So will seoul win if they bring sbb vs the chinese teams?
I really hope GenG Arnold
Isn’t a bitch
And starts sbb
Every game vs chinese teams
one of the reporters who broke the news said its probably not going to cause them to forfeit
but it could cause loss of scrim partners
Same
Would be disgusting
IMO the real threat here isn't forfeiting matches - I don't think any team would do that. The actual threat is the loss of scrim partners. These statements likely include academy teams (Bilibili, Team CC, Chasers) so Seoul would be out 8+ potential APAC scrim opps.
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Just scrim vs Fusion that’s the only team worth knowing about 
lol
Based name indeed my good individual
Watch all the players leaving the chinese teams
we gotta get all 200k people on the server to change their names to "<name> hates the CCP"
a bot could probably do that lol
Idk. I want to keep the threepeat and the CCP
There is no threepeat, stand with Hong Kong
There is but still stand with Hong Kong
Stop talking you’re starting to sound like Levy
oh, its doom and bap for contenders skins now
Dalton carries the Titans in a playoff run to remember and demolishes the Shock harder than Dallas
If that’s even possible 
???????
Deluded is what I was referring to
we need to coordinate our usernames
I am not deluded
You can remember my words rn once we lift that trophy for the third time
we?
what is happening?
homie is ta1yo on an alt
we're slander the CCP and discussing the shocks possible 3peat
Shock is more washed up than sea shells on the sea shore
Chinese Communist Party
Yeah originally Seoul would’ve (and should’ve) had no intention of playing SBB outside of a tracer-echo meta
Or double hitscan
But now he is a secret weapon for match day
Yeah i am crusty. I hang out with you all too much thats why my tactics are washed
Once i am out of here we start winning
According to some people here overrated so why play him since the people here are right
Good answer but just because he’s overrated doesn’t mean he is bad
He good just not top 5 good
Yeehaw skeleton man better coach than Crusty confirmed
Top2 because of me
We just put ans onto glisters Acc
Easy 3peat
hm
You hate free SBB?
You say that as if you’re not gonna throw the season by fielding Viol2t over Twilight
Viol2t cree twilight widow ans ana
Make it #free SSB instead of an ampersand
saesyeolbe
Sam
anyone have that custa-reinforce high five template?
got it
AHH
THE CCP TRIED TO CRASH THE R/OW DISCORD SERVER
HUH

finally
btw
both tweets
prime meme potential
damn contenders NA getting 5k viewers
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what "it" is, is unknown, but "it" is coming together
Florida will win
Yaki will dick on all of apac
and sparkle
Oge will have his redemption arc
Who is the best tankline in the league and why is it Dallas
I say this as a Florida fan
It’s like
EM RunAway
And China
In this tourney
I guess CC would be another dominant team
Yea ngl Chengdu high key weakest team coming into this tourney unless they whip out the Jinmu
crackhead preds
Those preds were so wack I had to check my own to make sure you didn’t whip mine out
lmao
I think 90 ping will nerf dallas actually
If you said anything other than chengdu shanghai finale you are dreaming
Pov I am going to eat these words in like a week

i think we def didnt put enough stonks into that hanbin/fearless duo
i keep forgetting hanbin was a stat monster last season on every OT
I think dallas found the few comps that work best for them
And other teams so far haven't been able to answer back
If shock/houston didn't do it
I don't trust chengdu/shd to
okay deep breaths everyone
Team CC Supremacy
that is the true underdog run and dallas would love to run with it to the very end
Happy uses a far bigger crosshair than I imagined
I usually see smaller ones from pros so it was surprising to me at least
I trust chengdu to not give a fuck about what dallas run and play ameng
dot crosshair master race
I used the tiny black circle ans crosshair for a long time
whats the ping gonna be
I don't have a crosshair
tiny green circle >
what server
pretty sure it is going to be minimum ping China or Korea server since Hawaii I highly doubt has a dedicated server lmao

it could be Korean based server for the middle ground or china based if they think hawaii is close enough
but considering hawaii to seoul is like 4k miles I would imagine they choose a Seoul based server
since any farther would likely go over 100
arent some of the players in korea anyway? @tawdry hamlet
I don't remember if anyone on those teams is playing on ping or not. But I am pretty sure team houses are all in china 
idk, i heard that the reason the east teams arent going to hawaii themselves is because of korean quarantine laws
so there must be players in korea, right?
Probably then 
Anyone know if there's contenders tonight, schedule said China Eu and Korea all have games on the 4th iirc
man, i don't think we're ever gonna see hog be in owl again, and I think that sucks. such a wacky ass character. The only times we've ever seen him be viable is when he's broken, but other than those times he's just been poop
But I think that goes for the meta of overwatch in general
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o7
s1mple in contenders? poggers.
its sad that nobody has been interested in making runaway a owl team
they're only bad sometimes because the top tier talent keeps going to owl
vancouver titans lol
??
whats sad is no org would just dump their whole roster for vancouver and insta buy a championship
I wondered about that
they need to rebrand then
like why did none of the titans players get picked up where as decay was dropped and immediately went to a new team
if they were just coming off second place right?
they got picked up wdym
haksal to nyxl
twilight to shock
stitch and jjanu to justice
slime to seoul
only sms and fissure got dropped
out of owl
And jehong 
lol
Stitch and Jjanu made owl because another team blew up, looking back on it I doubt they would’ve been signed had that not happened
rip
Haksal washed 
Was aimgod ever any good he just seemed to exist and never have any personality

His Ana was kinda cool
Empathy how would you feel about Benbest poko shax shockwave boombox astro taking over londons roster


And be fun to watch
Sucks alarm benched boombox so often I liked him
But alarm is just too cracked
you dont "promote" a team
I know but kinda like optic in CDL
the org has to sign a franchise agreement with OWL which can cost tens of millions of dollars in just regristration and setting up alone
if they dont have the money, they dont do it
Let me dream
Ah yes dream of players like Simple and Donghak making it into owl
but no definitely id love to see more franchise expansions
maybe coca cola makes an OWL team
Cheez-It Groovers
Coca cola chuggers
the chicago coke heads
That’s already the entirety of Chicago
Y I k e s
He was nuts in @1
S1
Like neko was a top 5 fs and he just benched him
you say that now but i want you to think abt how square sados head is
this explains why 90 percent of owl pros are out of shape
they're not ALL out of shape, lots work out a ton, but yeah I agree drinking this much coke CAN'T be good
cap
for every out of shape owl player
there are like 10 that are in shape
i said 90 percent, most are either iover weight or are lazy and eat like once a day so arre skinny like profit and super
rhats not to hate
im kinda fat too
not really
skinny isnt always in shape
you can never leave your room but eat 1200 calores of junk food and be skinny
jake
jake is legit a health guru at this point lmao
on his instagram he's either walking, cycling or doing some weird diet
tru, may do work out but like half or more of every team either is over wieght or has zero muskcke mass
and even then tho jake i gurantee actually eats more than 1 vegatable a month you can work out and be out of shape due to diet

the quality is almost as bad as reinforce's camera
i had to make it a lot smaller
emote gifs cant be over a certain size
im sorry for dissapointing u :(
have...
have you seen sados head?
he looks like he swalloed a game cube
??????
Man also drinks the coke like a potion from minecraft
are u okay
he's smokin wood
r yall watching contenders korea finals?
Proper is just fucking people up
But Runaway is being runaway
its the scuffiest stream ive ever fucking seen
yeah it cuts out randomly
But the gameplay????
I cant wait for Ado to make it back to owl
proper def getting signed next year
What are the Contenders skins this month
Ah ok
now there can be only one winner
just like 2018 s2
Its poetic
That runaway wins in 8 maps
waits its literally the same, just sub proper for decay and O2 is just KDP
They win games just off the Proper diff
2020 may melee grand finals (apac)
how can i get contenders skin
Finding it hard to concretely source but I’m seeing multiple reports that Chinese teams declared a boycott of Saebyeolbe (i.e. refuse to scrim or play with him) after he stated his opposition to a “unified China” on stream
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1068
SBB
let's see what the league would do this time
so is seoul
wasn't season 3 grand finals also scuffed
stream cut out
drops didn't work at all
ood exectuion
Wasn't there 3x token drops during the Grand Finals
idk I watched the whole stream no problem for me
I remember waking up at 9am to watch
on a saturday
good times
did you see yaho winston
On Gibralter
Legit would report in my ranked games
THEY DID IT
PROPER DIFF

adriel
Honestly either
Prob decay tho
Because proper plays everything more than profit does
proper pelican
Cr0ng Yakpung Proper Pelican Myungbung Viol2t Mandu
Did I miss anyone?
maybe stellar, Ivy
Rain instead of Mandu
Kaiser :(
proper and pelican united in atlanta
Im just trying to make an allstar lineup
At this point they should have Asian OWL
More korean teams
atlanta will fuck them up
korea has 1
wdym?
yeah maybe new expansion teams post covid
busan believers of the un-unified china
There are so many players that should have teams
I can make an allstar roster out of unsigned players
And of age contenders players
Sigma 
essenza
Imagine Fissure Mek0 Libero Develop Chiyo Revenge
watch out
What
before u dissapear
Is the ccp going to kill me?
Oop


Please dont hurt me
The Hongkong Freedom

we're all gonna die lmao
The bejing stay in ur own borders and leave taiwan and hong kong alone
My personal favorite team
bumper?
so why is he not playing
Idk people are stupid
Fissures never had a bad performence
S1 he was prob the best MT
Chinese Taipei
the pyongyang pirates
Isnt there a pyongyang in both north and south korea
I wish someone could sign these players back
no idea
Someone should do the decay treatment
and sign him
then make an entire roster around him
Because fissures never the problem
oh yeah in OWWC or global events such as olympics Taiwan has to go as the name "Chinese Taipei" because China is a little bitch and doesn't let them be Taiwan
Fissure
, Haksal 
haksal retired by choice
DAFRAN 
Fissure was basically forced into retirement
he's a fucking cunt
dafran is not missed
garbage person
since when have ROC ever participated in OWWC?
thats ur opinion mate
i dont remember seeing them
I like dafran
Dafran good player bad person
actual manchild
why?
Toxic asf, throws games
Not even on stream
he was kicked off selfless for thrwoing
in pro games
WTF
toxic, sexist, general asshole
throwing in pro games?
yeah
oh yeah, saw that Lmao
yeah before he was in OWL
and hes just an awful person on ladder
but he is still a fun dude
Well whatever you guys opinion might be, thousands of people followin him
the kind person to scream "WOMEN" if theres a girl in his game
under the name Chinese Taipei
idc what he is like personally if he's fun or an asshole or whatever
why is he sexist lul
remember shadowburn 6k without blade?
what matters is the competitive integrity of the game must be kept
Just the kind of toxic asshole
that was against taiwan
thousand dumbasses
🤣
lmao
throwers always have to be banned permanently from pro play
i lost all respect after his sinatraa comments
its like
those were super cringe
literally illegal
this
Yeah he was like
i liked him kinda
"E girls can be scary"
sinatraa is an egirl?
I dont fuck him, you still didnt hear anythin about the legal stuff
???
he made some very crude comments about sinatraas ex
anyway
throwing in pro games = literally against the law
should be banned for life
if I am correct his current gf has convo about his ex
yeah
theres another google doc
hardware ban?
shown on twitter 2 weeks ago, weird how that was not on cow
but this
no i mean they can play ow if they want to
the ex's google doc didnt change anything lmfao
but never in pro play
no
thats ur view
nothin changed the legal standings either
fym thats ur view it didnt invalidate any of the evidence 🤣
until court says otherwise, nothing is sure
hey lets talk about esports
i want to fuck sado
YALL
Lmao you brought this shit up
ok
Florida #1
may melee champions like last year
guys lets talk about how kevster is bad and profit is the best overwatch player evar!!
kevster overrated as fuck
🤣
dragons 4-3 hunters
same with erster
I was talking about Dafran
all overrated
wait have they played erster yet
nope
They should run erster mei over fleta
tbh
erster benched on atlanta, benched on shd
erster hasnt played a single map
sadge
lol
I forgot Erster went to SHD
me >>>>>>>>>> profit
he played in shanghai masters
you just have the SS lying around?
Erster wont till we get a genji meta
Kaneki has also not gotten play in Hunters
what
Echo
Erster is their just to they dont lose like last year in summer showdown
When fleta isn't comfortable playing genji
Molly is when bap and ana become double support
Izayaki on ana and molly on bap
what app
shock fans reveal urself 🥱🥱
cap
mayhem in 4
fs dif
hs dif
fdps dof
yaki is better then fleta
On tracer and...
period
haha, ok buddy.
Also remind you the MTD, OTD and MSD as well as the HSD
thats 4/6
Easy 3-0 for dragons
Also also also
Coaching diff
Kuki is going to fail against the dragons
because hes still salty from having to play lucio in stage 1 of s2
Because coach moon said so
And He's jealous of Fate who played MT over him
lmao wtf
Just a theory
and Yaki wont kill LJG
Because of that runaway connection
But LJG is blood thirsty and will shit on Yaki on lucio
instant mental boom for florida
so dragons vs fuel final?
Dragons win 3-0
you think fuel will beat chengdu?
Then fuel 4-0s them
no mtd
Yea
oge back to dallas form
Fuel win the May melee
I see fuel beating Chengdu
yeaa
Also even though i am a shanghai fan i would love to see dallas win
could be if dallas forces chengdu to play ball
Oh we have competition yeah. We'll still win thi
Dallas deserves it more then anyone
Ameng is a great ball tho, dallas has a better chance with rein and monkey comps
thats why youre wrong
Because fearless fucks
Dallas 3 years in a row
yall have stage 3 and 3 tourneys
Never even made a final
florida
so
ehh
akm and og lft
So dallas has a better story
Inb4 Mayhem vs Fuel finals
i dont really see florida making much headway
no one caes bt u anymore
Unlikely tho
why tho
top hs
top fdps
Idk if you trying to troll or actually serious
I am just really confused
top ms
At this point
have you seen the players on the other teams?
they regress
Slime over LJN?
shanghai lost to chengdu
Fleta over yaki?
in 3-0
not this season
Shanghai later beat the Fusion recently
IZAYAKI OVER GANGNAMJIN
fuck outa here
lets do this
shanghai beat fusion, fusion beat chengdu, chengdu beat shanghai
Valiant got more maps against chengdu than dragons
That is true
chengdu was throwing that game
So valiant for may melee?
Valiant vancouver final
Is Diem really that good
Toilet bowl final
If so why does Dragons lose when he is subbed in instead of Lip
Mechanically diem is probably the best hitscan in the league
He really is but the team just doesn't work with him
Diem is better on long range so this meta has made him look a lot worse than he is
But he isn't vocal
Or it's more than that
Since lip is the better cree
diem just hasnt had a chance to play
I think lip is just better with the team
Lip shotcalls more than diem is what people were saying
The team plays well when he is in
And diem while is good just doesn't have the same synergy with the team
Like they played lip on gibraltr
Diem has also played more than a couple maps iirc. He just doesn't work in a meta leaning less towards long range hit scan and he's more of a asolo player
Diem was matching if not beating happy when charge played shanghai
Like he is more of the carry widow not the shot calling ashe
Last season
he doesn't take much resources from the team
He is disgusting on widow. 2 Time widow 1v1 champion, and do you guys remember that 4k in playoffs 
Biggest downgrade, in a position, of the year?
paris eternal
paris just deleted itself
True
U can make a case for linkzr replacing shockwave
I mean philly offered him a good deal and a chance at winning something so why wouldn't he go
London for new London 
yea
London be replacing entire rosters every year
paris decided to shaft itself
Old London had actual hidden talents on it, current London just exists to be shit on 
Jmac moment
Against shock on busan
you say that like london is siuper bad tho
i mean you always need a bottom of the barrel team to make the atlanta fans happy that they can beat someone
they were good in contenders
That moment made me think dragons gonna win it all
Not in OWL
Yeah I know, I watched them in contenders, but their transition has not been good so far
Contenders and owl is 2 different things
yes
and not that close
looking at pov's
like his crosshair movement and shit just looks so much smoother than everyone else including carpe
you make me sad again :(
that 4k like 2 seconds on the first mapÉ
?*
when he hasn't played in months
and then just
dink dink dink dink
im a huge diem simp
very nice
London could have done so much better when signing a hitscan 
Imagine valiant didn't even implode and you literally have hybrid as your only dude

diem is like the greatest widow of all time
Hybrid wasn't gonna be another ans unfortunately only ans is ans
y e s
Ans is up there 
and it seems like he will win widow 1v1 again
decay is typing
ans is typing
saya is typing
hes top tier
but best idk
I mean it doesn't actually prove who's the best widow to be fair since Linkzr literally won the na tournament lolll
linkzrs trash tho
sadge
That was my point
Ans was the best widow last year
so much potential for saya
But now that he's gone, it's diem
yall do remeb er decays like historical game was agaisnt linkzr right?
i mean Decay and Kai are still in the league
on rialto
Nobody said Linkzr is good
ksp
ksp is kai 4head
Yea his scoped crit acc got beaten by ans the same season @shell tide
shame we did not get to see diem play more last year
his name willways be ksp
hes not better then lip
saya #1 widow of all time 🙏
on anything but widow
a man of culture3
Thing about London is that they were good in eu contenders
bring back widowmaker meta
mfs rlly be like ans has better aim than saya 🤣 @shell tide
Watching ans was so crisp
Yep
Early on he was a bit of a chimp, but not mid to late season
realkenzo > ans !!!
he never had good gs tho
??????
??????

This is bait
😭
and im mad
What
Who tf is farris
well heres the thing
felix argyalye
Who
idk man i just started fantasizing

Who

Idk man some anime thing they brought up randomly

I know the character is trans I just don't see how any of that is relevant to anything at all 
Kinda went off topic
are they tho
depends on how far you read
Ok then 
in order for him to be trans youd have to read like a weird underground light novel
The kind u use for bears?







