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Ok they are right next to eachother but Shanghai Seoul n Houston are pretty even to me
No
i just think iza is the best zen in apac rn, guys leading in almost every zen stat
oh
Izayaki is a freak yes
so theyre not playing with buffed hog
However
woah
I think seoul looks a lot better than dragons
if they play winston with zen tho idk what their doing, but they fixed that last match
when did this channel get so colourful 
as a seoul fan though its a toss up between them and chengdu
stuck with ana and they did fine
biggest tossup of my life after spoiling my regular season preds
huh
beating chengdu is dependant on whether or not u can deal with their pharah strats and shit lmao
the seoul criteria for me originally
✅ It's the regular season
✅ Is their recent performance playoffs caliber
It’s regular season and they just had a good performance so Seoul won’t try as hard
true but tbf seoul also pulls that shit sometimes
Certainly you want to look at both Toyou vs Elsa, Jinmu vs Profit, then Marve1 vs Ga9a
all other matchups are pretty good but nothing I can confidently say is better
gesture winston looks hella good this season
its not an individual diff, we saw this in philly vs hunters, they shut down and focused gaga and jinmu hard
but they have the ball diff
Gesture look good on Winston but still doesn’t diff Ga9a
yeah it feels like ga9a has the same dominating MTD as fissure vs OG Spitfire
its all gonna depend how they focus certain players
but outside of scrims we've never seen them play each other
I think it’s pretty obvious how the apac games go
Im going Seoul Philly 🤡
Yea I’m a Shanghai fan but I’m not having them win over Philly
im a philly fan, this is our year
every year
although I do expect the choke
Philly going to beat Chengdu cleanly and then lose 4-2 to Washington
It’ll be another silver for their liquidpedia
why are people so high on washington
they look great
I dont think they look better than philly
Justice do look cleaner
RunAway diff
Philly has it together like they did in season 3
>like they did in season 3

a reminder
this is Rascal's 4th team since joining the Overwatch League
anyone else who is on their 4th is on a lower ranked team, left or screwed up and in a coaching role
아이고난!
s2 playoffs go brrrrr
Brigette is the best thing that’s happened to the meta
This is E-Sports discussion sir
Do they just only play the same maps, I swear I see blizzards world and havanna every single fucking game
isn't there usually a pool for the season?
i thought for a moment you're talking about hero pools
Classical London spitfire still have the cloud9 spirit in them
Huh
Shock 3-2 reign wow
When can you get the Ana skin?
I think it starts today
Ok ty
Maybe but probably not due to synergy
synergy isn't gonna change much
but hybrid has just looked meh
and im pretty sure they have really overlapping hero pools
London played mayhem right
Can sparkr scrim?
yeah probably
toronto
Ohh
dumbass
That was just unnecessary and an afterthought
Ehhh
there were quite a few people that expected them to be mid tier
but they're for sure around titans/paris level
i'd say paris is prolly the best bottom tier team 
ngl, i really feel like im a weight for the team, and im really not proud about my performance this start of season, i promise i will do better from now on
260

shock as a whole has been hit or miss
glister striker not as strong as striker ans
Fd just does not fit with the pace of the shock
shock is doing the ''dont play glister'' challenge a lot
yeah
they subbed in striker ashe
yeah
I think they just like the synergy and ability to go to tracer if need be from striker
i think viol2t comes out when they decide to play double bubble no bap
but tbh why even bother picking up glister at this point
he played super defensively on volskaya
u have every hero covered
Widow
u have a cree, tracer
Sniper
yeah but they still need a widow specialist
taiyo was a widow specialist right
Ta1yo 
Taiyo is literally so useless for the shock
but like why pick him up for genji when rascal could play genji just as well back then
where paris beat them
Ahh the Paris that was
apparently
shut up shut up shut up
but why pick up nero and ta1yo at the same time
Not the paris that now is however
ta1yo only plays like genji better than nero
luckily boston is still the same as last year
Lol no
i feel bad for boston fans
Cope
Did you see how they did against Toronto
Poorly
Not on their level but they made it competitive at least
Probs winning or coming second in may melee
also glad that fusion picked up rascal hes too hot to drop 🤤
i hope so
I don’t see apac teams standing up to the top 3 of na
SBB hotter
yeah but sbb is washed 😦
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834519891918716978/838333301034975252/image0.png why’d they use astros picture when he’s not playing lmaoo
I think it's the opposite Lily
he should be a coach
Astro playing?
What if he is playing??
I heavily doubt it considering he’s still in uk
Or is he
And they spoiled the surprise
Bri ish
No I really don’t think so
carpe is a menace to society
I will change your mind
yeah
Idk ninek looks like a big upgrade to kdg, he’s doing some unreal stuff
Why would they lose carpe
rascal isnt as good as he was before imo
Like Hotba and tobi joined 1 week before their first match
i hope rascal gets back to his prime
idk
I refuse to believe a team with alarm would only be mid tier
maybe he decides he wants to become a minecraft pro
lmfao
No choice since shockwave is stuck in eu
yeah
yeah but he gets outplayed by profit and fleta
But ur not gonna get playtime on tracer when striker is on ur team
NA may melee finals tonight right???
Rascal has never played tracer against fleta though
btw
yeah but it wouldnt be hard to believe that fleta is better than rascal
how did florida get 3-0ed by shock
Yeah true
im pretty sure shock let their guard down against atlanta for a bit
But he’s atleast servicable on tracer which is all fusion really need seeing as how they are dumping all their resources into carpe
yeah
hes still a fantastic tracer
im pretty sure power rankings put him on first place or second place
as far as damage goes
does anyone know the name of the song playing rn?
no
Damn it Dragons are fielding Lip it’s gonna be a challenge
i want to see at least 1 carpe vs diem map
Not hopeful for this game compared to last year tbh
Let's gooooo philly

I think shanghai can make it close
I just don't think they'll keel over and die against a team they know are good
yeah thisll be close
as opposed to being surprised by chengdu and getting dominated
do u guys think poko and astro will even play when they get their visa issues sorted?
I honestly don't know how full korean philly will compare to philly with shockwave, eqo, astro and poko available
or if they even try to play their eu players
Shockwave is elite so i hope they play him
I think astro will be worth trying to play
same with shockwave and eqo
idk if poko is as good as hotba rn
he definitely is
ig we'll see
hotba isn't really looking as garbage as he used to
atleast from what I've seen
tru
that was a great round for shanghai
this is how I expected them to play from the start of the season
manon diff
lettsss go
hotba cant play sigma
So many heavyweight teams now
I can see any1 from apac going through and any1 from na
a lot of the contender babies turned 18 right?
honestly its an 80 percent chance that Shock and Justice go though
ooh Diem
carpe diem lesgo
woooo lets go SHD
OK fusion
Dragons r back
plays back the spark game
this is literally just mano and alarm vs shd
how tf did Fusion lose that fight lol
melting primal fate
rip
Shanghai playing a 2020 comp
the immortality didn't save him
drawskaya moment
ayyy nice

we love 2 cp
ye map 2 just ended
wait what is the next map?
we find out now
1-1 it is
Almost there
its a rush map so fusion wins
Jesus lip
fucking idiorts
lip actually
he just GAMER'd
Pro level btw
PRO LEVEL
Mccree going in the backline for more than 10 seconds out of sights
Don't they ever think, that's suspicious?
if you saw actually, shanghai disengaged to let lip flank
It's just not as simple as looking around and seeing who is missing
yes you can
Actually, that's a mistake of not scoutin
but alrihgt
it can happen
well played by dragons
But if I was a coach, that shit would not happen again
LMFAO CARPEE
From my POV and from what Memeicus said, what I would have done to correct that, is if the enemy is backing off, to keep checking how many of them will back off, and if they're not in a position to engage, at least let one of your own scout the enemy in front, heck, Rein can do that
That was the problem, that giant pillar
Dragon made use of the fact that Fusion didn't scout them past that, so they took their advantage to let lip flank from behind
Playing around the pillar on the left side from Fusions POV is the best to make sure the enemy won't flank
Right side of their POV isn't really a flank spot
carpe woke up lesgo
But the left side (Fusion POV) of the map is the best to go around from behind
mano really tried to firestrike in front of a window with the entirety of the dragons standing behind it
mtd
holy
fat shatter
3 mins left, no way fusion cant close this out
wait whyd Hotba self destruct
he lost mech
holy shit this is a good game
what a clutch shatter by mano
yeah
carpe is insane
yup
saw that
as much as I want SHD to win, kinda seems like Fusion will..
no idea why he thought that was a good idea
sad
oh boy
even then mano is still landing those key shatters against fate
cant wait for Spawn Camping: The Map
3
3 maps?1
yeah it was like an hour
Voskaya was a draw
DRAWskaya Industries
Also shanghai is doing really good
Not gonna be a blow out as some ppl expected it would be
well like the casters said at the start, its either a Fusion stomp, or a very close series for either team
After first map i thought it could be a dragons stomp
Still can happen
Won't be a stomp but a 3-1
same, i was so hopeful
Fusion is just better at Rush
Yea they play more cordinated
lets go shanghai woo
Mtd tbh
Also fletas wall in the defense kinda fked them up
Fate is ass cheeks this season 
Fate was caught between his and enemy team wall
and carpe finally woke up
Lip is still taking it to carpe
fate is so sad
nah im viewing the na stream normally but the chinese stream is sually ahead
I like how no one in competitive plays infronf of Havana doors, OWL teams just built different
Well yeah because owl teams can melt clock and then get back in time, comp teams will stagger themselves and then fail at the hold inevitably which gives the other team a free ride to the next fight where they can trickle in one at a time and die and lose the first point
how did they turn thagt
Big epics
still winnable for shanghai
definitely
fuller holds happne all the time
now this is the type of overwatch i love
hopefully not today though 🙂
lmfao wtf lip
Carpe getting fate jesus
how do u lose that
Shanghai not being able to abuse sombra dive is showing its head again, just like playoffs 
Rascal carpe too stronk
shanghai pls 
playoffs comp was straight cancer tho
fusion snowballing
It was, but it also showed shanghai could not adapt 
gg
carpe actually waking up is pretty poeg for fusion
not really, they just couldnt play fearless because double off tank
carpe first two maps: I sleep
Carpe latest maps: woke

Imagine if philly had their full team or they kept fury. 
Literally stacked
Shanghai Washington and Philly are so stacked this year 
I'm ngl shock easily could've afforded to keep rascal and they'd probably be the best team in the league if they did, instead of signing two b tier dps and running a flex support in their place anyway
Kind of annoys me they dropped rascal, there's no way they couldn't afford him after losing ans contract, and moths contract.

Makes me wonder
yeah
After spark yesterday I want to see more shy
Still thinking about that double no scope sink on that tracer on blizzard world
Such a wild upgrade from Heesu to rascal, so pretty to watch them play and just dominate
Well depending on meta I guess ivy played rascals role more
But yeah
rascal matching fleta when fleta has mercy pocket
I’m happy Toronto finally does well
MTD
gg
I almost have the mei skin
bruh

Void whiffed
I looked up at my monitor for one second and see a flying dva bomb
COME ON 
jesus christ
LETS GO
they got it
that was way too close


Leejaegon got absolutely bullied lmao
Why would you wake up fate
Carpe tracer going ham
big emp fight coming
rigged
I thought map 6 was escort?
last fight come on

what a series
youtube chat said they should have played pharah lmaoo
its escort
Philly pick?
you LOVE to see the sombra!
yt chat is just a cesspool
shanghai switching to old reliable sombra again 
hide that shit if u like ur braincells
controlverwatch bois
so it's Dorado or Gibraltar
lets go 
reverse weep
I'd go dorado if it was my choice
Idk fate looked really bad on gibraltar, looked nothing like the double bubble they were able to run last year with fearless. but that was against chengdu so you never know

but dorado could go either way
nah that's the escort symbol
I'm so glad they made this change
winning a series off the back of 1 map type was dumb
gibraltar is a great map to watch
yeah this could be a cracker to finish
widow mirror matchup
well control is the only gamemode you can't draw, but drawing on payload is very rare anyways so its fine
sheeesh fleta
what was that jump? :)
nice nice nice
they're not running double bubble?
philly are
and so the curse continues omegalol
yeah surprised SHD aren't
2nd as always
what a sleep
nah
he won it twice and wanted to start something new
Lip v Carpe widow duel let's go
damnnnn
anyone who won a championship could get a fat contract wherever they go so I doubt he is worried

I am surprised Philly chose gib
huge
3 mins left
the cliutch
0.57 m
bruh
this match is very poggers
could be worse
that sleep was fucked
not wrong doe
lowkey
tbh main tanks shoulder like 90 percent of the hate now that I think about it
Mano has done amazing this match
think about it lmao, gator, fate, oge, super, sado, daan
they all get shit on
consistently
oge last season I mean

sombra echo dive dragons is back !
manos getting shit on this map rn holy
hotba zarya getting the clutches
No
e
fuck fuck fuck
darn
the script got a lil off topic but it is back now lmaoo
wow both teams cant defend for shit i guess
I mean tbf carpe just hit like 5 picks in a row
CARPE
jfc
carpe stop
was that 5 picks?
carpe please
bruh
wtf
bro
just click heads lol
is that legal?>
lmao
straight up carpe diff
wait why did fleta and lip switch heroes
stalling
carpe crisp as fuckckckckcckckckckc
at least I think they went against each other at one point?
in the widow 1v1 challenge
says justice's game is monday 1.30 am
CARPE
shanghai got this ez
the dragons have the roster and the coaching, Philly have most of the roster and the coaching, this is peak overwatch 
so used to hard mechanic or hard coach diffs
NICE
so long have I waited for an even game
nooooooooo
the hitmarker noise lmaoo
the curse continues 
mano bullied :c
this series might be better than Houston v Shock
6-3!
this is phenomenal stuff
I liked shanghais roster, then they came out and looked like shit, and now I want Philly to beat them more than ever 
goddamn bro
seriously, is this better than Houston v Shock
this is incredible
carpe has no chill
Houston v Shock was better for the shock value
Car
e
but I think this is better drama
Dragons ran through 2nd point
I believe dragons have got this one locked in the chamber
This year is gonna be nuts
lip needs to check carpe
yeah this season is easily shaping up to be the best yet, they've made so many good changes
just a shame it's not live events 😦
and we still have Hunters v Seoul to come, that could be a thriller
Jinmu v Profit Pharah yes please
shame this game is at 4am so many many fans are not seeing this glory live
7pm here lol
12pm here
1pm
7 am
thank god this isn't a control map to finish
beautiful, everyone from different timezones watching OWL
you wouldn't get this drama
are you SG?
wait
Shanghai just fed
imagine if this philly gets so hot that they get their euro players back and play worse lmao
Shanghai win
Wait what
kill the fuckin tracer stop choking wtf
BRUH
WHAT
holy shit took them fucking ten minutes to kill that one tracer on cart
IS GOING ON
what is this
holy shit
scripted
who made this script
Carpe just transcends in OT situations
one fight
how does he do it, every time
disgusting
yeah cus they cant focus him
\
carpe is a ranked player, his brain turns on when OT starts
LETS GOOOOOO
HOLY SHIT

GGs
GGS
WE WON IT
ggs
sick series
WOOOOO

god damn
gg i guess
LETS GOOOO
WHAT A MATCH
LETS GO SHANGHAI
THIS WAS AMAZING
peak OW
SHD don't lost gibraltar in deciding maps
DRAGONS HAVE AWAKENED BABY!!!!
FINALLY
Philly 
HOW THE FUCK DID WE WIN THAT
shades of against Seoul last year
if I was carpe and this was ranked I would be hard malding lmaoo
HOLY SHIT WHAT A GAMR
2 hour 15 min game
one day
I feel so bad for fusion
holy shit
when OW is played like this, it's the best game itw
The dragons are here!
philly won't choke
that was fucking fantastic
ggs
fuck carpe
fuck carpe
Philly didn't choke
VOID POTM
fuck carpe
Dragons outplayed them
facts bro
pihlly absolutely didnt choke
Carpe Curse 
they did let Illios slip imo
dragons on top!!!!!!!!
ONCE AGAIN PHILLY CHOKES IN THE PLAYOFFS
pretty big upset
If you really say fuck carpe you don't deserve watching greatness
Illios was a bit of a choke
dragons did great
Lip was annoying them on sombra
the p in Lip stands for Pog
He was making them choke
Who is limp
mano feeding
Philly fans malding
a wins a win

I fail to see how this was a choke
imo Izayaki is POTM
tbh carpe choked and lost them the series
dudes insane
Shanghai fired up and ready to go for the may melee
I started watching during ilios
wait what: "Chengdu have Ameng, Farway, and Yveltal starting today."
Lip just destroyed philli on ashe lmao
CDH what are you doing?????
Izayaki outplayed alarm
dude houston is my team bro
chengdu goin for lulz
why are you subbing out your sick starters
Think about that
Not
oggers

Izayaki outplayed the best flex support in the league

this
eries
Viol2t is the best support in the league
I didn't know roolf was playing
fax
Its between violet and alarm
wait you said flex
Can violet play ana, no, can izayaki, yes
He was playing in spirit
Lip diff
never doubted W
In the end it was team diff
Worth it
Viol2t can play ana
yuh
Now let's get that may melee dub
Absolutely worth it
Ttue but it really showed in the end
dragons mental unbreakable
games do tend to do that when they end
Also fate is still 50/50
Violet literally gets subbed out so he doesnt play ana
Because twilight exists
you play him yea
Who the hell would you put on ana over twilight
philly should've had illios but they messed up
Absolutely devastated
why the fuck did shock roll out with ana bap that one Havana game versus Houston

how was the Dragons vs Fusion?
absolutely ecstatic
To sub out fdgod who was getting picked alot
best game of the season yet
instant classic, one of the best OWL matches ever
might even better Houston v Shock
It was amazing
Diem slowly getting phased out
kind of amusing to watch
I think it was because this had more at stake
lip slowly playing better than diem on his 2 heroes
Houston v Shock was more of a shock though
They just play better with lip in
I would assume so
they're both brilliant in different ways
It was
Yea
diem has his place
what a treat we get to see these matches
considering all of s3 they ran lip and then shoved in diem for a tourney
just fantastic

Embodiment of "mOrE hEaLS mOrE kILLs
"
Would’ve been better if the results reversed
they resigned him this season
At this point, diem is there for double hitscan
on the topic of someone on that roster without a place, rip erster omegalul
Also stand1 for fearless when he fearless played hog in qualifications
I could see him going at the end of the season
Genji meta
jeez I forgot he's still there, Molly too
any predictions for the next match?
that SHD roster is stacked af
I have hunters
Mano was feeding the entire game on horizon
But tbh Seoul can won aswell

If seoul turn up I genuinely have no idea
yeah in the 5 percent chance we have a genji meta that they don't just play fleta anyway or force a non genji comp we could see erster play
Ameng les go
Okay
the yottachad is back
I like yveltal
Okay back to the game
Nisha and monk were doing so well
but nisha's brig is better imo
Super outdated
Shock overrated
Jjangu activated 
wish we had more hype casters for that last match
impossible!
that match was already hype enough as it is
bren sideshow would have been nuts casting that match loll
I would've had a heart attack
really miss reinforce casting 
dude ow pros are so chilled
now he only do watchpoint
I got more nervous than any of the players actually in game
deadass I don't like one of the female casters. I don't know any of the castor's names. Every sentence and word blurs into one another and I can't understand a damn word she's saying.
I beg of you, speak SLOWER!
I forgot her name
vikki is the only caster I have ever seen get hate lmao
I can perfectly understand the other casters
ehh, I can understand her just fine personally
idk why, she is fine to me, kind of rusty but she is new to the owl casting scene so in time I am sure she will get better
but it may be difficult for non native English speakers
like she casted contenders but owl is a different beast

idk why she has so much hate though lmao
like, contenders casters just give off a certain vibe
shes pretty good, however she doesnt have her original caster buddy from t2
so the flow between her and jaws is kind abrupt sometimes
who do yall think win this next match
same thing with doa and zp
Balance has been restored in the universe.
seoul shouldn't even be in this tourney tbh 
whenever she talks it ends up coming out like "rascal pulling off the grav pulse bomb combo he's gone it again andheperformssowellunderpresudkrkslslrhshskoaksbehs
Im with Hunters
You guys believe in the hunters?
Really- I think seoul's got this one tbh
no idea how the hunters are doing
I had this match 3-0 I am pretty sure
or seoule
3-1
Hunters are insane this season, Seoul are as inconsistent as ever, my money goes to chengdu

I don't mind either team winning though- it'll be the same either way with the dragons stomping them
What a nice match.
fusion was the big raid boss
Thats what i wanted to see.
you sure hunters will win this one
my money was on fusion being a mediocre B tier team who would eventually lose somewhere in the tournament
and looks like it's coming true!
As bbq said Seoul is way too inconsistet.
I thought this pre rascal
But if theyre having a good day.... who knows.
Tournaments always different.
they dont seem very B Tier
Post rascal, still built B tier
But will they win against a solid Chengdu roster they haven't faced




