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they were messing around so much in the paris game lmao
idk if it was just them testing out shit but it didnt work very well
Ksf being in wasn’t ideal I guess
But I don’t think it was messing around
They had a mediocre Havana this year so far
They were clutch on it v Shock but still got full held
yea they were prob using the match as a chance to try out ksf since they knew they were gonna win anyways lmao
obviously not lmao
Their supports still need work
But I think they are light years above where they were
ofc lmao
its kinda sad to see paris be so bad lmfao
Well they had some bright spots
But yeah, losing the em members
Oof
Kaan and onigod are pretty good
daan might be the worst rein ive seen from owl
the best rein*
he gets 7 shatters a teamfight and wastes them all on the dva
daan makes shredlock look like fucking super
is that an insult or a compliment
If you have ever watched shred lock
You know the man is no super
He was almost Muma tier
what do you guy sthought of nyxl?
i wanna see how shock plays now that they took an L
Houston might end up being number one seed for the tournament lmfao
nah
Jake needs to tell happy to just stay on fucking cree
That sym shit was not it
Just let happy fuck on cree and win
wdym happy sym was op
now sym players are gonna play sym in ranked
the tp dancing was the most hilarious shit
sym players oh no\
lol
I missed this whole weekends matches, can't wait to watch the VODs
I have no clue how Daan was picked over benbest
Or cloudy if he tried out for paris
I think they chose daan because he also has a wrecking ball or something but I really don't remember
does benbest have a good ball, daan said when he was first signed all the hate he got for not being benbest was unwarranted because "others" that tried out for the same position performed worse 
but he didn't look very good
Benbest has proven himself to be a strong rein and a competent orisa
Probably could coach him to have a serviceable monkey or ball too
hmm, interesting
cloudy is fucking in contenders atm
revival go hardd
loll
mechanics moment
ayy that 14 year old main tank dude was picked up by ardour that is cool he is getting a shot
also halo was picked up as well pog, does that mean saints are not in contenders this month or did he just ditch maryville for contenders april lmao
I was in a server with infekted for a while
didn't know he was 14
they talked about him being a grinder
he is still there actually
What is that music track that plays whenever a team wins a match?
Told you guys to not doubt bebe
See what came of it
Doubters became the strength of bebe
The more doubters, the stronger he gets
da baby
So out of all the rookie main tanks this year, who impressed y’all the most
Mag or ga9a
spark looked decent yesterday while nyxl looked garbage
this better be the epic turn around and i get my double points
3-0 both nyxl and hunters
한국인
fusion is 2nd imo
they dont need to dominate to 3-0
2 close maps i think
control one sided
well see
maybe im delusional
but the hunters look like the best team ive ever seen
oof
Idk I think it’s heavily dependent on what compositions and maps are played
If it’s a map where fusion can play their rush well they’ll win that map
If it’s a strong ball map chengdu will win
true
I think leave wins the tracer duel between him and rascal
thats why i think fusion is second
Yeah... either way I think it’s gonna be a great game
true
What happened
Wrecking ball at work
lmao
Yakpung > Guxue
am i the only one who thinks spark is a boring team
flora missed a dynamite on the floor like 5 times
the big miss
Yakpung with the ball tech
Bernar and bianca 1 to 1 feels scuffed
NYXL does NYXL things
spark is the worst rush team ive ever seen
who tf is their coach?
like they are not even playing rush
they just stand there
its so bad it hurts
Fr
Ivy so good at mei
even titans paris was better
ooof
jjonak dragging his team down
this is the worst game we have seen so far
na > apac
but hunters > everyone else
That map wasn't bad, Spark just kind of threw playing widow there
Yeah, I preferred the bread bowl to this, apac is very weak on rush
Hopefully now we see five played
Watching Yakpung rein is fun, I swear he just presses Q the moment its up
have we seen the same map?
so many individual mistakes
and bad plays
yeah theres been a few whiffs, but also some decent players. Jjonak is feeding though
yeah and they still won
my preds looking clean tho
Spark should just sub in their whole Chinese roster at this stage and see how they do
Korean half seems to be struggling hard
tell them how to play rush pls
Does not know how to manage this roster
I'd bet they're having massive comms issues honestly
might be
I reckon the two halves of the rosters aren't synergising
Guxue has looked ok generally, and not seen many issues from IDK/MCD. They're just not good at rush as a team
tooo bad
They aren't really feeding, just not good at this style by looks of it
another rush map coming up
Was it Spark who were having VPN issues yesterday too? Wonder if that is fixed
yep
If that's still bad, playing on 200 ping would explain a decent amount of the issues
Nyxl doing better today it seems

Makes chengdu nuts
told ya
nyxl 
Wonder how many of these games it'll take for people to stop bigging up Jjonak 😄
gwangboong is ass ngl
Spark just need to pray Rush disappears as meta quick
meta is map dependant
Control—Lijiang Tower (R) , Busan, Oasis, Nepal(R) , Ilios
Hybrid—King’s Row, Blizzard World, Eichenwalde (R)
Escort—Dorado, Watchpoint Gibraltar, Havana (R)
Assault—Hanamura, Volskaya, Temple of Anubis (R)
rush maps with (R)
kings row is just play whatever
Ivyk
Rush seemed to be pretty meta for Hanamura too
only first point
cheeky sym rush
Even a lot of second point, espeically in NA
if you play rush vs poke youll lose
they only stay rush on second cause of ultimates
for snowball
but its objectively worse on second
this is gg
Spark gotta snowball
yooo kenobi
they don't have much time to screw things up
charge might not be the worst team
I couldn't care ¯_(ツ)_/¯
unlike NYXL
charge kinda sitting default with nyxl, spark, and valiant at the bottom
yeah
just trying to figure out who wins may melee race
ggs
pain.
nyxl lose a map
just to make sure i get only 4 points
that was really bad
now best game pog
goes to show how much more competition there is with fewer 3-0 blowouts
I predicted a 3-2 to New York and was about to change it to 3-2 Hangzhou but it had already locked in and I could not be more glad that I kept it
apac power rankings tasty rn
I wouldn't doubt Hangzhou's potential later in the year
but they don't have it going on to pull off a solid reverse sweep
so taking everything into account
it's like chengdu >>>> everyone
chengdu >>>> philly/nyxl/Shanghai > spark/dynasty > charge
thoughts?
i really wanna see mayhem toronto atlanta side facing shock outlaws dallas side
to know whos better
How the hell did nyxl win
they took out gb
Hangzhou are bad
Was gb doing bad
they just fielded gwangboon for the first time
wasn't good, but it did look like good play time to get used to being on the server
Philly 3-2
If hunters win my weekend is destroyed
CDH 3-1\

Whoever wins this = best team in apac atm
I actually had them 3-0 a couple weeks back
ye hunters might throw 1 for the luls
to give carpe the clutch ego back
This game will be supp diff
100% win rate
I think they r even everywhere else
hotba is like thanos
Dead?
he singlehandedly ensured he never lost again
O
both teams debut match charge choked on map 5 with a grav by lateyoung
every other faceoff
hotba plays the better dps and roadhog/sigma to dunk on the hunters old roster
This match could be rascal vs jinmu in the air
rascal carry
rascal 
Jinmu saving barrage until next map
better off not using it really
biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig
go fusionnnn
you would really help me!!!!
Someone on twitter said if na actually gave pharah a chance she would be instrumental in the best comps
I'm not Irish srry
Nice fusion
leggo fusion
close one
dps carry
too bad
And given how many top 500 accounts yzn had I lowkey might agree lmao
This is gonna be a rly close game
I am a student researching Irish eSports viewers
why irish though
Chengdu win this round
did you message Andy
but that was the best monkey map
What's wrong with irish
ask the man with the source, AndyGMB
he's not in this server
he's Irish
and very well connected with that region
nice thank you!!!!
Nice job alarm
should be common knowledge within the overwatch subcommunity, but i help where I can ¯_(ツ)_/¯
where can I find AndyGMB?
Alarm got left behind
Okay thank you!!!
both work exceptionally well if you want to contact him
jinmu sombra oooof
Tbh this is chengdu’s best comp so the fact that it’s this close is impressive
This is so fast paced wtf
Tobi is so good
Their best comp is probably pharah
done 
Carpe just rolled
lol
rascal 
ana literally unkillable lmao
nt
thank you!
Clipped by Ecopoint Overwatch · Original video "@Chengdu Hunters vs @Philadelphia Fusion | May Melee Qualifiers | Week 2 Day 2 — East" by Overwatch League
hotba 
😭
hotba REDEMPTION
Hotba
hotba pog
wp
Sadge
ALARM
wait
Oh
lmaoooooo
no
HOLY FUCK
No
aaaaaaaaaaa
wtf is going on 
he GONE
LOL
Sadge
hahahaha
dps diff
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
lest goooo fusion
philly
rascal god
😭
THAT SLEEP
Genuinely supp diff
Alarm best player
Not really a dps diff
ofc
team diff
it literally was
It was 2- 1, last point was 99-100
ball sleep tho
alarm 
The hotba bomb pretty much saved it
Without that bomb, chengdu follow up on the 3 man emp and win
There wasn’t a diff
Hotba clutched
hotba bomb clucthed lol
With that bomb

Jinmus direct on tobi though
if that bomb failed they would've lost
one fight
It’s too close for there to be a certain role diff
But the sleep won them the last fight
the fight was already won at that point
not the bomb
Don't think that barrage was getting the kills done there anyway honestly
these are 1 fight
and carpe would have killed jinmu regardless i think as the barrage didn’t kill him
Nah that barrage would've killed carpe
exactly
Let's gooooo

Jinmu would've died no matter what
jinmu had turned away to the supports and wasn’t barraging at carpe
But sleep ended it early
^^
Clipped by Ecopoint Overwatch · Original video "@Chengdu Hunters vs @Philadelphia Fusion | May Melee Qualifiers | Week 2 Day 2 — East" by Overwatch League
I didn't see the matrix
so far this game is living up to the hype
Ya
Chengdu rly gonna be the secret evil panda boss
I do wonder if Poko makes it back onto the roster if Hotba keeps performing as he is
I don’t see it happening
Depends on the hero
Poko isn’t even good
Poko is good lmao
Not really
Like B tier
JIMMY ACTIVATED
He’s pretty average
Who is better between astro and tobi though
astro
astro better lucio tobi better mercy
So fusion is all Korean now. No more boombox
better shotcalling between the two
Astro better lucio brig tobi better mercy bap
Astro is also a shot caller
Idk if tobi is
Boom box has been gone for a while no?
Yeah
Yeah boombox left last season
yes, they just can't travel to Korea
Wonder what hunters will run here
Ball orisa
I think they have visas, it's just pure travel ban I think?
Both
Huh
Poko had a visa but it expired or smth
L
Leave buckling under the pressure ?
Chengdu surely have to go rein here no ?
Yeah they do
Fusion dominate the rush mirror though
Ok it's 2-0 to fusion
oof
Yeah
LOL
You can tell chengdu didn’t prep for this
truly unfortunate
This is brutal

The peel
Fusion are so good on this
what?
WHY BLIZZARD
jimmy?
WHY
Did he do it to force them back ?
panic ult
Cmon hunters
aaaaaa lets goo fusionnnnn
Carpe wtf
😭
Holy shit this might be fusions year
looks like
Oh dang
Such a good plan from fusion
Spawncamp to force hunters onto a comp you know they are bad on
So if rush is meta chengdu become average

not average but dogshit
Imagine apac finals being shanghai vs philly with their EU playersz that will be potentially the most stacked overwatch game ever
Wild
hunters rush is the worst ever
Gg go again
Ok
If it's not widow
YESSSS
Rascal carpe>
Bet it is hanamura
Hunters are very good on Anubis
Hanamura is probably their best bet and hope for a first point hold
Alarms ana on anubis I lost
Anubis = record time for fusion
Man that blizzard..

Apparently it’s volskaya next?

Username checks out
Spin2win volskaya
Seoul Dynasty's skins are so good
and NYXL's as well
even though I support SFS i still wanna get newyork's skins
Volskaya hmmm
I bought shd dragons widow idk what to buy next, might buy fusion doom for meme since I already have ameng hunters ball and justice decay zarya
Reverse sweep is probably unlikely
I got SFS Zen because I love viol2t
Thinking about charge genji skin
wanted to get SFS Bap but I love the Talon skin for Bap and don't want to change it

I'm probably going to get either Spark or Mayhem Winston
Wish I had the funny spitfire winston skin
nice but im going for the luicio emote

Damn philly
3-0?
I bought widow skin and still have 175 so including encore I'll have 200 in no time

Do u peeps think Philly with the eu players is better?
no
I unironically think rascal is a better tracer than carpe
So shockwave wont be useful
Shockwave is fun to have but carpe rascal outclass
Only real difference I see is on lucio comps
Astro > tobi and Poko Hotba > but rascal > eqo and shockwave apart from ashe
Astro lucio > tobi lucio
I like philly players from eu but this apac team lowkey looking goodd
They have a top 5 player on every role
Hotba stepped up from his reputation as dig shit
Well, I miss that EU team. Especially boombox. But apparently I don't miss them enough to notice he was gone all last season
Rip fusion lost this fight
Ga9a whenever he gets isolated looking like Ameng
Body blocked

So basically, Chengdu are fucked if the other team forces them to play rein
Next map is kings row
rip
After this
Rein fights?
I'm cheering for Hunters. But won't be for much longer
If control is oasis .....
reverse sweep
I can hope
3-2 philly
Alarm going to end the reverse sweep + set some sort of record
Or chengdu throw
Rascal's eyesight is based on movement
These mercy's are getting bullied
Good attempt from Chengdu
Alarm??
fusion sandbagging 
was a reset, mano was dead
tactical reset
ok what the fuck is going on now
Fight was lost
They have Emp for next fight too
they need to emp b4 the trans is earnt
another reset?
No, fusion are obvs trying to lose
amazing molten core placement vs rascal
Didn't get the zen, fusion lose
nah
Nvm wtf
tf
they outclutched during OT
phewwwww
damn
good maneuver
still lost
no shot they can hold for 4 min

Alarm big overrated
wrecking ball diff
Average at best player
Wat
???
Him and carpe are overrated
Dude he killed 3 and a half people that fight
Lol
There’s not a big enough sample size to consider stats lmao
Linkzr > carpe

Every day of the week
hes trolling
Yeah I realised
yeah, just look at the stats he's GARBAGE
realised he's trolling and still trying to argue with him lol
Bro he is
yeah that's why I spend enough time waiting for someone to tilt off the face of the earth or genuinely believe him
Wait till fusion goes against titans
Roolf and linkzr are gonna diff carpe and alarm
@wanton birch i hate to break it to you, but their star player onlooky isn't on Fusion anymore
jinmu throwing
else must swap that sigma
Fusion had to use every ikr there
still win
Still good effort
damn
gg
gg
Man apac is weak
nice one
Titans would go flawless
How can u call apac weak when valiant exist????
imagine hunters reverse sweep
Damn I forgot about the valiant .....
Depends on maps
Really comes down to which maps
It’s kings row next
Ok maybe Titans lose one game
Y are we discussing small teams like fusion and Chengdu
Brawl comps?
unlucky
@feral zodiac you really need to look at a new pfp
Poor Washington
Let's talk about titans and valiant
Second game in and straight into the fire
wdym its beautiful

Alarm gonna get reverse sweeped 🤡
Bumper going to be be good for vancouver this season, can't wait for stitch to show his potential and slime to pop off 👍
What other teams are up today?
this is the last match of East division
Jjanu good tho
Yeah and seominsoo is super flexible
Twilight mvp
This caster combo is just so wtf. It's at times like at times they can't decide who's the Play by Play and who's the Colour.
I don’t like the girl
She’s kinda seems to keep saying stuff that is proven wrong two seconds later
I don't like overwatch
I dont like.
I don’t like you
Same

Bro.....
is it just me or is the hero pool this season more varied than ever?
Yes
some idea
i love that, great for viewing experience
They know but it's very map dependant
Hotba throw
yea i feel like that's ideal!
Omega lol
Jinmu wtf
Gaga ball is definitely their best comp
rascal bein clean
I can't wait for hero pool alternation. Because now I'd like to see if it's so bad they consider abandoning it altogether for countdown cup
oof
rascal aaa
ech 
Leave
man why can't I be as good as these guys
God damn chengdu do not like giving up fights
lol
jinmu sombra no

Literally fighting on 1st point after loosing it
Genuinely can stall for so long
Did they not sub in Jimmy ?
No
subbed him out
Alarm throwing
not sure i understood what you meant there tbh 😅
Alarm got 2 kills tho
random emp
well I presume there's a chance that people won't like hero bans...
it's low
but I will like to see new metas foster or existing teams getting better at this diverse meta already
unlucky jinmu
Ok carpe is just too good man
oh nah, i didn't and i don't think that's something they ought to do again if the balance is like this going forward
jinmu wants to lose
I can’t even keep up the bait
can they swap that sombra?
hes dead on cd
Ga9a back on the ball
Nice
granted hero bans as in giving teams the agency is fine but the way they did it last year is no for me
Fusion playing with 7
dva nano 
Jimnu didn't get spotted lmao
and got echo
Rascal not getting carried like his two championship runs this time 🤡
oh boy we really goin 2-2 on this
Carpe and Rascal got picked that fight
2 second duplicate?
what a res
FUCKS WITH BASTION
lmao
lmaoo
nisha and dangerous rezzes
tell me Mercy isn't busted
Mercy do be busty
Who tf is Ark?
dunno
man that res was 200IQ only a hunters player would pull off
wha- That res
nisha best mercy
What was the point of going Zarya?
CARPE
i love carpe
mvp
5'5 beast
right there
who is the girl commentator

carpe 
mentioning kovaaks dang
Nerf carpe
i still remember when Carpe just decided to retire ANS
vikkikitty
rip jinmu
Nisha with the res
Nisha's mercy is incredible
nisha so good
Oh my god carpe
yea already seeing it
love how CDH probably have the 2 best mercy itw on their roster
Carpe??
poggu
but dva
so close
Carpe is just op
idk about Zar
they literally had to sleep him to stop him lmao

Really good hold
ay good hold tho
ok
dang
game on
Damn
feels like this is CDH's map to lose now
yea
elsa wtf
let's go huntersssss
so good
Carpe widow
⏸️
i pray fusion
rigged
Cmon
tactical pause
Carpe did it before against an entire country
How delayed is the game stream
why stop at Chengdu?
Why do I feel like they checked the stream XD
lmao
Yeah this feels like he
you think Hotba could land this rock?
man widow just dies instantly
Calling tactical pauses is scummy imo
ALARM CLUTCH
has fusion put their eu players in once yet?
nisha with another underground res
LETS GOO
jesus
that rez
Alarm is so fucking good
gg
gg
FUCK YEAH
holy shit
ggs great series
GG
Why can you just call for pauses
Gg
gg
holyyyy shit
That pause killed the momentum
sheesh
so who exactly paused?
Completely took all momentum
tactical pause
LETS GOOOOOO
alarm swagging on everyone
they're not in Korea due to visa delays
Philly paused

Just scummy
ahhh ty
tobi looked exhausted
but that last fight was insane
widow needs 200 hp again
Alarm is so good jesus
just plain done 
dps diff imo
did fusion pause the game?
Bro why did fusion have to scam the map though
No one knows
Fusion asked for pauses yeah

was in the chat, about 4 of them said pp
I didn’t see anything in chat
of course
Oh
pausing to kill momentum
they didnt want to lose
ayy Carpe
well?
yea k
I think all their comms are monitored, so it will have been somewhat legit
mm
it's very suspicious this pause happens when hunters has momentum
and not before at beginning
i wanted to see chengdu win even tho i support both teams, but philly won that match - barely tho i would say, but they still won
Yeah honestly fusion should have won that game but pausing like that is just straight up scummy
all is fair in love and war
pffft only 9% crits
It was close though honestly, map 1 was 99-99 all the way, and Kings row was tiny difference
kings row was soooo close
yea
could have gone either way
If Havana was dorado, Hunters probably win. Maps are going to matter a lot in tourney
lmaoo
yeah
Rly close game
Yeah
think tournaments are map picks rather than pre-determined
I still dont rule out SHD coming back super strong too. Apac could be a 3 way race
Yup
im sorry but why are people thinking the pause was scripted and was why the philly won?
Let's gooooo 3-1 
Killed all momentum
Chengdu has a large ults advantage and could have pushed forward before fusion had a chance to gather themselves
Hunters fans MALDING
rlly have to wait till 3 pm 
Realistically chengdu should've won that even with the pause
Glads fan
Chengdu just choked
Philly stomped hunters on havana
Chengdu suck at rein comps
Ball comp are their bread and butter
But still no one expected philly to do this good
In this game or overall?
that game could of gone either way
philly were so clutch at several moments
alarm carpe and rascal
The whole game yea not havana tho
Tbh I saw it coming if the maps fell right
Havana was just philly playing their best
And they did
Also why do casters refuse to give rascal recognition
This year is heavily map dependant
this is still probably the highest level game we've seen so far
In apac
Vancouver vs Paris?
Because houston vs shock is the still the best game yet
Houston vs chengdu would be interesting
Houston roll if they force chengdu onto rein
it was more entertaining but philly and chengdu looked a lot stronger then shock and houston
Isn't it 4 overall?
Hmmm
2 from na
LOOL
play the top 2 from apac
well i really want justice to make it
alarm and carpe make such a good duo
But houston are really good aswell and you can never count out the shock
This season is really competitive
Shock will bounce back
Yea that's the thing
Houston will drop hard if they have to play something other than rush
Shock normally loses a game early in the season
Jjangu is looking decent on all tanks


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