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bruuuuuh
Gz just didn't cap
stream is dumb
they didnt reset they lost off screen no point
thats why sides swapped
ow is much bigger in china than anywhere else
Numbers on those Chinese sites are also always inflated
600k right?
no
or am i blind
6 mil
what
ggs
no way lol
its because china has 1.4 billion people and it's the only website that they can watch it on
how so?
exclusive streaming agreement
That was such a bad match
this was hard to watch
where are the views am i blind
billibi's viewercount isn't a proper viewercount, it's based off of chat activity , likes and other stuff
literally, kept freezing kek
stream quality by relaying the chinese hosted broadcast is barely watchable - not the first time
china's viewership is still probably like ~100k, but nowhere near a million
Bro I bet the charge fans are malding
nah charging sounded better
it's them stonks that will decline for a while in the season

perks is the collective promotional by T-Mobile
lol
Tokens are part of watching every hour
i wonder how the fusion v dynasty match go
see if seoul can pick up where they left off
yea
lip 
PogU
wait so can we watch the owl on youtube now and not on their website to gain tokens?
nice
yea
stream quality pain
yea
so which heros have not been used yet?
in the season or in the match
fuck
I think reaper
I was scared of Lip
lol
no reaper has been used this season
reaper was played in fuel vs outlaws
yea
bastion probably
all of the supports have been played
wait which team played bastion
Glads
oh right i fell asleep before they played hanamura
lol
2cp zzzz
Lip diff
so far in the season, sorry wifi cut
I didn't think he had ult and was genuinely thinking he was walling there
lol
LOL
so torb is the only hero thats not played?
Torb was played
wait he was?
Yes
when?
junkrat?
i think torb was
yup
Not hog
i dont think torb
what about hanzo
Hog was played for 10 seconds at the start of gibraltar games
Nero played Pharah
Hanamura
yeah
Pharah was
when was torb played?
didnt we see hog in that map used for storm rising event
Torb was played on lijiang
by Charge?
oh i missed that one
every hero has been played then
I forgot which team played him
junk too?
Already more diverse than the other seasons
yea
fleta going in
dimonke
zoning monkey
Crong why are you throwing?
gg
you LOVE to see it
gee gees
LETS GO!!!
Niiiice first win
bro what have I just been watching
GG
charge are so ass
Fleta is a stalling sally
they should've taken point like 15 minutes ago


choi just couldn't carry hard enough
GG crong
valiant will 3-0 chengdu
lol
to be honest

i wouldnt be surprised if the hunters try some funky shit and drop a map
i have faith in chengdu
but they got it
Fleta is the chedda
not gonna lie, really enjoying how diverse the meta is
i dont think its meta diversity per se
more feeling it out
cause teams dont know what sticks 100% yet
chengdu can play non ball comps now so hopefully they don't fuck this up
you gotta learn the game
they have had to been scrimming for quite a while so they should know by now whats strong or not
i suppose, like i expect there to be only 2, 2 weeks into the may melee
but the game has been definitely more balanced than last year
and apparently they like playing quite a lot of heros
I think some teams are better at different comps and heroes
people can go for comfort picks more
like the shock playing nero 76 on illios
and its map dependent
What happened to valiant?
Oh
their entire team got dropped because they wanted to change branding
lol
fired everyone, moved to china
Valiant is gonna get tossed like a salad next round
Who are they now?
yea overwatch league needed 1 western team to move to eastern
because teams werent balanced
Valiant is the Dragons of 2021
just know that they're ass
oh boy
if they take a map they're overperforming
LOL
its like when the titans had to sign an entirely new team mid season fresh from contenders
same thing w valiant
their main support has never played main support in a professional capacity before
Lol
remember when Dragons came out in season 1 with the idea of "all chinese team" ? Valiant is doing that now
they
can't be that bad, the valiant
you have a carry dps
a tank on the support role
No there bad
an all chinese team would be decent
valiant just couldn't get the right pieces because they took too long to drop their old ones
no no you don't understand, part of the reason halo put valiant so low with the charge is exactly that
scrimbux
the spark can possibly play an all Chinese team cant they?
Predictions for next game?
hunters should 3-0
I think itβll be close
3-0 hunters
key word should
the charge have six chinese players and six korean players
they cant drop the ball on this one
oh god discord light mode is something else
discord light mode is a perma flashbang
wtf is that
7 Korean and 5 Chinese
I thought it was an even split but nvm
i wanted to see what its like to be flashbanged by mcree
also chengdu are playing ga9a which is a massive relief
when you're flashed by cree you die like 50% of the time
do you want to die?
alright guys heres a theory
what if OWL made valiant move to china so all the chinese teams had someone to beat 
lol
last year it was london, now they need a new punching bag
yes
lol
look at that yee yee ass haircut
bruh theyre playing it again
#stopasianhate
no more Bastard vlastelica
who?
the previous OWL commissioner
johanna is responsible for both CDL and OWL
and the casters being part of this are awesome
this was originally for the dallas vs houston match, so that's why there is a ton of fuel/outlaws fan groups the outlaw vanguards / farenheit
lol
i know very little about the valiant players
few of them specialise
no one tricks really
you dont tend to see those at the support position
lol
valiant gonna roll pog
silver 3 rein POG
leave tho
damn
oh my god
nice lol
silver3 actually good
naw
probably very few would say he's good
tfs going on
this isnt actually the owl match
neither teams showed up and this is just some random masters game theyre streaming
leave has chengdu on his back already
xd
lets gooo
one fight win lol
imagine
if he got emp a bit sooner
highbee is ass
lmao
seems like lucio isnt his strongpoint
Ahhh valiant
below 1 minute
damn
or am i blind and did he only just get it then
that echo ult was stupid
this match is confusing
big echo ult 
first eat?
im not sure whats going on
didnt expect krystal to be the worst player after highbee
wya is the only one ive heard of
he didnt play once i think
Krystal was on Spark last year
but he was on owl before
How did philly do worse than this team
And then got sued by them 
getting sued by the hz spark
yeah he did
Krystal went back to China for a long time, told Spark his mum was sick, turned out he was just horny and smashing puss instead
wya looked good tbh
he's in like a million dollars worth of debt
And then refused to come back
lol

What a Gamer π
Completely breached his contract
wait does the spark not play in china
atleast he's finding a way to pay it all off
idk I think they only just got their new chinese training facility and were in korea last season
Krystal was actually really good in the past
the spark should've just got him some puss in korea man
part of his essential needs
krystal would be good if his supports didn't have to babysit his tanks
lmao TayZonday in YT chat saying valiant 3-1
believe it
maybe they just watched the players in chinese contenders
they capped lets go
I feel like I'm watching a powerpoint presentation what the fuck is this
I don't even know how they capped
silver feed
they know they're the worse team so they have to bank on riskier plays
if they can trade back the 5v6
if they try to play standard theyll lose no doubt
wya actually owl lvl
too soon avrl
I don't even know what's going on
itll be the underdog story for the ages
they lose all regular season and barely qualify for playoffs before steamrolling everyone else
molanran roty and wya mvp
Any surprises so far?
well it's too late now
Highbee mvp
Any surprises so far? From today and yesterday
valiant better than dogshit
wouldn't say that
houston won v dallas
I didn't watch the houston v dallas
gz tied the dragons on one map
How was it?
No Xzi is a rip
ALright, ill say it now
amazing
Do u guys think justice > glads
yep
theyre actually
houston will smoke shock like meat on a bbq
no
all the kevster fanboys were in tears yesterday watching him get rolled by viol2t
There supports are not amazing
wooooo slideshow
pog production
Kevster on ping tho
Yep
wya is actually cracked
good hold
no cap
Does Shock play from chicago or fully west
west
i could replace highbee on this brig im pretty sure 
kevster is playing higher than 200
its pretty sad
But they literally can do that, I don't see the issue why not. You don't need an audience, just 12 pcs, all separated with distance, good air conditioning and ready to go
the logistics of moving teams around like that
I think it's mainly travel restrictions and not wanting to risk it
hundreds of people
imagine signing a player on a seven figure contract and they just die from covid
its a business liability
On a scale of 1/10 how bad is valiant actually?
Chengdu bad or valiant good
theyre contenders players
ahahhaa
i believe in the valiant 3-1
wow
Interesting
valiant pooog
wooooo
Okay
I guess so then
Chengdu bad or valiant good
wtf is this
chengdu shit the bed
chengDONE
Are you fucking kidding me
Tay zonday was right?
I'm like 90% they're being bought off by the valiant
Bring Back Daddy Ameng
there goes making joke of valiant
I did not expect that after the first map
Valiant has plot armor.
still, not going to be 0-40 season
If there losing to valiant
I doubt valiant win the series
is that the chinese stream?
chengdu need to start playing like a team again
Sub in Ameng if there playing ball...
east v west wont fight until grand finals
so...
titans vs valiant grand finals
Krystal widowmaker
You have the best ball in the world
that was the intention
And you donβt play him in ball game
or do you mean grand grand finals?
no i mean
cause they could face off at may melee playoffs
Does YouTube notify you when you earn rewards or do you have to go into Overwatch to check your point balance?
they play in hawaii
I understand Ga9a is good in a lot of situations for his rein and his orisa etc
thats only for the end of season playoffs
But if your playing ball
no
Play Ameng
no??
fuck my drag
every tournament
chengdus golden dragons do be pretty tho
i bet the hunters just didnt take this matchup seriously
WHAT
molanran so good
HOW
Chengdu is back in the Chengdu zone
I believe in molanran supremacy
valiant stocks are through the roof
And if you have Ameng on the roster itβs for his ball
So sub him in for the ball maps
You have 16 games, you cant afford to wait to integrate him.
Ok Chengdu please get off double shield now
chengdu still thinks its 2020
Itβs not good here :D
They showed they wanted to run Ball at the start
So why didnβt they bring in Ameng
double shield was the meta in US games for this map
Huh
funny thing is
How have they managed to plank
chengdu lost last year bc they couldnt play double shield
they come in this year trying to when its not working as well anymore
bruh
jimmy grappled into the ult
Ok leave
what a pulse
Kinda fucked
Wtf is this production
reported
?
it took a molaran 3:30 to build blade
and they didnt even nano him when they bladed
On the bright side Silver3 fed for nano then did nothing with it
Unironically though valiant is looking very solid
Wouldnβt be surprised if they win matches
Even if Chengdu wins this it isnβt a good match for them
Chengdu coaching needs some work I think, there game plans let them down
No way leave and Jimmy went in wanting to run genji hanzo
When they swapped to comfort picks and what they actually are good at they stomped
Which Overwatch League team has the most matches scheduled?
krystal is the worst player in the league
Weβll see
ofc they lose havana
molanran mvp tho
so its even
im in for showcheng role star aswell
big nice
diffing leave#
Wya lmao
ok then
love watching good tracers 
Leave is a monster
Molanran shouldn't be this good
yeah
On good teams they donβt make much of a difference
I wake up early accidently, check the game, mf walks off the map, tracer kills 3 alone, and chengdu is forcing ball
put molanran on tracer ffs
that has to be the worst emp ive ever seen
Yeah Krystal and Molanram need to swap
Chendu wins this
OBSLucio has seen enough
Somebody tell me the result
he's tired of this shit
ah ok
man i predicted 3-0 not 3-1
good enough
still beating y'all nerds
If I go flawless on APAC today Iβll probably beat you
Seoul 3-0
I got 3 points from that game
I went seoul 3-2
How was Guangzhou vs Dragons and Valiant vs Hunters?
*East Division
Oof.
oof ZP and Doa is not a fun casting combo to watch :?
though apac rolls off better with NA
For the first one, was it close everytime or an absolute stomping?
no i think they're not used to the new online format. It's some of the worst production they've faced together
might as well enjoy it
It's pretty much all clear wins, but not a stomping.
|| GZC didnβt look terrible until the last two maps||
I don't know that there's any level of production that can save a * and Doa team.
not with how they structure it, anyways
I never really heard the background on why Doa is even back.
no chipsa no win
it's not a priority to give NA viewers to receive a great broadcast, you can tell while they can do it just fine, they've given the partial rights over to bilibili to produce the better local stream
while the korean one simply exists
and they do a better job supplying a stable-enough broadcast for their audience on the KR website
cant wait for season 8 when every teams headcoach is a former shock assistant coach
If Shock win this year crusty said heβs leaving shock I think
I remember at somepoint he said if he won 3 titles heβd just switch teams
I thought he said that, at first, but then I asked in here, and someone said the number was 10 wins
not 3
but maybe it is 3
resolution? well 4k is better, but frankly its probably not that big of a deal, save your internet
carpe rascal π
paris doesn't play this week?
i havent watched owl in a while
LOL
the play or broadcast?
the play
well there is no crowds because of COVID
well
the play will be on the side of fusoin
shoulda seen valiant vs chengdu lel
are there still NA abd EU owl players active?
*their
alarm why did you ult?
is this sarcastic cause yea
ah I see
been watching may melee matches today. after almost a year watching owl.
you mean funnyastro, eqo and poko
for exsample. are they still active?
how could you forget the face of the OWL, 2x Overwatch League Champion World Cup Champion Stage 2 Champion May Melee Champion Countdown a cup Champion Role Star 2x All Star All Star Winner MVP Candidate MVP Runner Up Matthew "Cashew" Delisi
they're all inactive on the roster
due to visa issues they are still trying to secure
maybe its just cause its the start of the season but idk
if it takes too long, it's going to be a cost to Philly to maintain their position on the team
is it because of covid and thus are forced playing online?
either both teams are being pretty sloppy or the current playstyle is just pretty chaotic to me
probably both lol
Fusion is playing from Korea
wow that was close
and their players cannot secure visas in time for the regular season
so why not bring back hotba
less gooo
and tobi was on seoul dynasty last season
ye that's what i was thinking
so he has the intel they need to compete in KR
another question, why did sbb, mano leave nyxl ?
contracts expired
yeh
NY dropped their whole roster except jjonak as their contracts expired
*jjonak was the only one resigned
carpe whipping out the widow
never thought that nyxl team would change bigtime
jebaited
current nyxl looks better imo
i havent followed owl for ages. so i have no clue at all about all them new players
new nyxl has insane dps line
but their tank is pretty weak
support line looks alright, but idk how well friday would perform
are outlaws still american or also went for an asian team?
outlaws is mostly american i think
mixed roster
danteh, jake, joobi, and one more are american
are the spectator performance like
is it worse
i cant tell
this is fucking horrible
jake playing again?
yep
he's their projectile specialist
damn
big nano tracer
he retired as a caster/analyst then came back
and the other dude with the huge buttocks?
Ok itβs ok
he's the 5th dps
Profit can play the game still
rawkus is no longer playing OW competitively
forgot his name.
he stopped?
rascal mei hellllll yeah

not surprised
he's a sova main
sova?
fits?
carpe tobi
yeah a new hero in overwatch valorant
brings a tear to my eye
nasty boop
valorant lol
the entire fusion roster is vintage memory lane roster
feelsbad
i miss them in their original teams
heh yea
with the nordic tank? which i forgot the name of
its an og allstars team
a pharah tracer main
alarm is the nostalgia trip for the OG Korean underrage players
what happened to sinatraa, btw?
he went to valorant
eh he's not relevant to owl anymore
like a season ago
check the pins @idle beacon
i mean the rumours
no one fuckin knows
irrelevant
he had sexual assault allegations and was let go from everything
ok
at this point its under discreet business so you wont find any further info on it
^
twitter crashed
nope twitter broke
yup
after the initial burst, they all went silent, most likely to set it legally and not drama fest
yea let's not dig that grave up again
thank god twitter ded
yep yep
profit on tracer π
i wanna see gesture hog again
same
rascal from sfs to phili.. thats odd
he almost didn't get a team
which im so glad didnt happen
jesus christ carpe with the aimbot
lets goooooo
daym
budget fusion atleast taking 1 map
rascal?
budget?
yeh they missing a couple of ppl
budget nothing with carpe mano rascal alarm
maybe its just me but i feel like the team play for owl is still in rough early phases
then again though this is koth
oh you mean that budget
you dont really see the big team plays at koth
he just means they're missing the visa blocked players
but the team itself is expensive af
Mano: alarm give me nano Iβm playing monkey and need primal
Carpe: alarm Iβve got a plan...
aha
mano just used priaml
when alarm got nano
nano mccree was the right play
christ. imagine using that widow so well like that
Yes but Iβve seen carpe get nanoed like every single time
it was the only play to speed up deadeye
nano mccree is the right play when your mccree is carpe
watching carpe on hitscan is like watching porn
lmao
wow thats some heavy jank lmao
honestly the rascal carpe dps line is the dps line I never knew I needed in my life
NA Production
ikr?
is
so fucking clean
so fun to watch them play
is horizon and paris still fucking dead?
yuh
so again, why did rascal leave sfs? contract expired?
hotba is actually peeling
like i dont get it
yuh contract
probably wanted playtime
he wanted more pay
those maps are still closed until prob ow2 or smth
and that
he barely got any playtime on sfs
i'm glad to see him in a team where he gets more playtime
contract expired, rascal wanted more pay, sfs didn't renew because he cost too much when they could get talented rookies and underrated players @idle beacon
hence glister and nero
glister is absolutely amazing but he kept getting solo gravd and viol2t mccree was dummy thicc
Viol2t schooling kids how to play dps
dude has built in aimbot
back in the day he used to get aimbot accusation on almost every match
back when he was known as widow onetrick on ladder
shock dragons glads justice fusion (only at full strength)
sfs dragon glads justice and kinda split on fifth
i was gonna say fuel but that was before they lost xzi
his empty gap is too big'
i wanna see seoul vs ny so much
glads already done
jjonak vs jjonak's best friends
pog
gesture spawncamping 
alarm is alarmed
wut
5 minute 30 seconds holy hell LMAO

I alttab for 30 seconds and they already have 2 points
no regrets
oh no alarm
that was brutal
Can I get owl perks frkm watching straight from the website ?
lets goo
Or is it only yt
Alarm not having a good time jeez
both
jeeeeeeesus
Ok
you only get time for watching one stream though
but YT seems better for consistency
ive been on website and it's fine
Iβm taking about owl skins
i tried both and they're pretty much the same
Like the tracer one
you might say seoul dynasty hit the snooze button on alarm 
stfu lmfao
petition to ban puns
tobi ana? π
spy check for sombra
mano's turn
mano might have to learn how to play more passive
rascal carry
clean rotation by philly

Man, these two teams really won the team color lottery, huh?
lmfao
i'd say so π
profit having it rough
hotba and rascal smurfing
profit echo LUL
fits being played
who were the other seoul dps?
sbb
ah right
this is gonna be a good map
sbb where?
ok
damn
profit and fits duo really doesn't need altering
this might be my favourite rivalry this season, this is awesome
it helps to change strats and give teams something to be conscious about
matching intensity with intensity. loving this one
for real
casting intensity matches too
avrl is doing super well
sbb is in dyn, right? why isn't he playin?
that was totally left field
because profit and fits already have synergy
sbb does not
at least with his role, he doesn't need to be played that often
k
they're probably gonna use sbb in weaker matches
'weaker'
to gatekeep valiant charge and spark
LMAO
fits alone ate 40 seconds off of their attack time
pls no bully alarm lmao
lol carpe eh
carpe too good
still my fav philly π
what i would give to have carpe's aim
and not-alarm's luck
oooof
still gonna be close
yep
double bubble again i asume
yea probably
whoa
ooh dive
dive
alarm's face cam 
can we all just step back and appreciate the skill in this match?
Carpe, one of the best hitscan of all time
Rascal, arguably top 3 projectile dps
alarm, top 2 flex support
I could go on for just about everyone in the lobby
a wealth of talent
yeah we were already cooming over the roster in this match








