esports-discussion

[next mesa]

profit somehow still there

[limber pine]

power rankings based on 2020 stats no?

[next mesa]

pog goat

[little tusk]

is there a tank ranking

[next mesa]

smurf choi first

followed by void

hanbin is like 6th

I forgot

fearless 4 or smt

[sullen berry]

purely 2020 stats it has to work off, it runs on data provided by the League

[limber pine]

yeah

[sullen berry]

no way I'm going to see Guangzhou remain in top 8

or paris in top 4

[limber pine]

reddit died

[sullen berry]

good

misunderstadings

[plush grail]

whats a reddit

[balmy wolf]

yoooo

tank pr from last season

gator on 10th place🤔

wait no hes bad cause hes bad am i right?

[earnest leaf]

His orisa/rein aren't bad

Just nothing special

[cedar oasis]

Hes bad

[little tusk]

Why is eternal 3rd

[raw ermine]

cause the bot doesn't know they sold everything to dallas

[next steeple]

If anyone wants to join my draftbuff, shoot me a dm ill send the join info

[raw ermine]

they just went off of stats from last year

[trail perch]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[karmic grotto]

beliebers

shock will smoke gladiators

like sausage on a bbq

[raw ermine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-hxzQS3XDE

KEV FACE REVEAL

||pysch||

[next mesa]

at least animate genji avatar smh

[karmic grotto]

we're not ready

soon

SOON

[limber pine]

!!owl2021

[young fractal]

Rosterpocalypse Reddit Thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/jbnajq/overwatch_league_2021_season_rosterpocalypse
New 2021 Season Info: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/new-2021-season-info-schedule-tournaments-prizing-and-more
Overwatch League 2021 schedule: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule?stage=regular_season&week=1
Countdown: 2 days

[next mesa]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey8sxKCXIAUritS?format=jpg&name=small

[balmy wolf]

amen

g

[next mesa]

Tobi is gonna get played over astro

im just sayin

its the law

[cedar oasis]

for now

once astro is off 300 ping he is gonna bench tobi

[vagrant cargo]

yeah ofc astro has 500 ms lmfso

[next mesa]

no he wont

im saying

[vagrant cargo]

He will

[next mesa]

tobi is gonna get played over astro

[vagrant cargo]

Tobi was low A astro was top 3

[next mesa]

because tobi is the main support consumer

no that doesnt matter

tobi can bench moth

tobi is tobi

tobi is coming

you cant run from tobi

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-snap-inevitable-marvel-avengers-endgame-gif-14599588

[cedar oasis]

no

why did he get droped for anamo then

[next mesa]

he didnt get dropped

seoul (Arnold I think) said they offered him a nice contract but he didnt want to stay

which is still so weird to me

idk

[cedar oasis]

he was like

im tired of oyu guys only trying for 1 map in the finals

[ivory mason]

i am confused what is that ranking in which philly is 2nd

[karmic grotto]

????

[wanton birch]

who do you have winning , glads or shock ?

i think glads might take it

[plush grail]

shock for sure

easily

[next mesa]

chengdu has easily the sexiest support line in the league

and its not even close tbh

[tropic herald]

Yeah but Shanghai is just overall best looking

[ivory mason]

is glads v shock the first week?

damn thats a spicy game

[raw ermine]

yeah

[earnest leaf]

Houston vs fuel is first

Glads shock is right after

[karmic grotto]

I will enjoy it

With every fiber

Every dna

Every single atom in my body

Wait, that's sounds a bit wrong, but you get the idea

[plush grail]

;)

[devout path]

amen

[hot onyx]

Glister Schwi Babel Although Bernar JMAC Clestyn Jihun Sanguinar Highly FuZe Krillin

Whole S3 Shitfire roster for you Luigi

[plush grail]

u googled it

not fair

[hot onyx]

Would you believe me if I told you I said that from memory?

[plush grail]

no

[hot onyx]

Well you’re right I got 11/12

Forgot that Jihun played before Charge

And it might also be an unfair advantage that 5 of them are in kr contenders

Still named more than Glister

[sullen berry]

I guessing you can even recall where most of them are without seaeching

[hot onyx]

FuZe Carcar and Halo are gonna make a comeback next season and dominate mark my words

[sullen berry]

You spelt sanguinar wrong

[plush grail]

libero*

[hot onyx]

Clestyn Krillin on T1 Although Sanguinar on O2 Blast and Babel is on Team BM

[sullen berry]

Nice

Nice Contenders KR update

[hot onyx]

Your welcome

[sullen berry]

Onlywish

[hot onyx]

In other contenders KR news: Runaway is shit

For the first time in 4 years

[sullen berry]

Being outdone by

Team diamond who have been looking drab has shown improvement

[hot onyx]

Everyone but Gen G and Starlight Gaming

And even then there’s still a Stalk3r diff with Gen G

[plush grail]

cringe

[hot onyx]

Only so much heavy lifting poor Chiyo can do

Before his back gives out due to a lack of a Rothman Orthopaedics sponsorship for his team

At best I could from what I’ve seen Runaway could beat BM or WGS but that would be considered an upset since everyone they got replacements for is a big downgrade

WhooHyal is on CC now so idk about washed

[trail perch]

I legit dont understand how runaway can be bad, people would pay money to play as runaway

the best players prob want to play for them

[karmic grotto]

I'll rob you

[next steeple]

dm if u want to be added to a pickems leaderboard

[sullen berry]

Conversations on Twitter

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/shu_overwatch/status/1382143276279484426

Shu (@shu_overwatch)

@overwatchleague @SFShock @LAGladiators 72%vs28% holy gg

Likes

262

Twitter · Apr 14, 2021, 1:26 AM

lol

[dry mesa]

contenders on bilibili is up

https://live.bilibili.com/21316976

[little tusk]

Owl tomorrow woop woop

!!owl2021

!owl2021

Time for me as a philly fan to suuuuffeeeeer

[forest raven]

Philly fans

[sullen berry]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PleasantSassyEndiveOSfrog-y30X6FOLAYnjkU7U

[hot onyx]

Y’all underestimate the fact that NineK can do more with Hotba in two weeks than IMT could in 6 months

Hell any coach in the league just needs to show up and they’re a better coach than IMT

[mortal abyss]

Can we talk about how they haven’t updated the in-game schedule for owl?

There’s no indication in game that owl is starting tomm

[plush grail]

lmao imagine wanting blizzard to support contenders

when they're not even fucking supporting owl

[hot onyx]

Blizzard gives more support to the collegiate games than owl

[plush grail]

blizzard can legit only focus on 1 thing at a time

they first focused owl

then gave everyone the contenders genji skin then stopped anything related to contendies

now they're big on collegiate

a day before owl starts

[limber pine]

That pretty much sums it up lol

Blizzard does seem incapable of multitasking

[plush grail]

also overwatch 1 and overwatch 2

[limber pine]

The schedule should have been in the game the moment it was announced

[plush grail]

when was it announced

[limber pine]

At least a month ago I think

[plush grail]

they have no excuse

for that

[karmic grotto]

guys

tomorrow

is the

day

[plush grail]

where we find out la glads are trash?

[karmic grotto]

30 hours to o

LETS GO DUDE

[hot onyx]

We’ll see if you stand by that opinion when they beat Shock 3-1

[plush grail]

okay

let me see ur tears when shock 3-0 them

because even tho i dont trust the dps line that much

they still have the best tank line, best support line and the best tracer

[little tusk]

do u think shock support line > philly support line?

[limber pine]

If it's bap/lucio then 100% shock

[balmy wolf]

disagreed

[limber pine]

if it's zen/brig then idk

[little tusk]

didn't alarm have better stats on bap last season

I can't remember

[balmy wolf]

philly better outside of zen meta

if zen is played shock has better supports

[limber pine]

OWL.com wiped the 2020 stats so idk if that's true

[little tusk]

yeh don't take my word as fact here

I just remember alarm being gud

[limber pine]

Alarm is certainly a good player, but Viol2t is on par if not better on Bap.

imo

[little tusk]

yeah I know of viol2t as the n1 support atm

[tawdry hamlet]

I never understood why it seemed like blizzard made youtube stream the first priority and then app and website is just like oh well might work might not

When the rewards were only on other platforms besides youtube

Just feels like the league site crashes at least once per series whether it's contenders or league or collegiate or anything lmao

[hot onyx]

Hot take but I rate Alarm and Twilight higher than Viol2t

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot onyx]

Listen listen

The fact that Viol2t ana isn’t even top 10 is a good start

[tawdry hamlet]

I think mechanically I rate violet higher, but it is hard to compare because violet plays so differently than other flexes since he's like a 3rd damage often loll

Yeah on ana violet lacks but zen bap are top tier

[hot onyx]

Yeah but so are Alarm and Twilight

[mortal abyss]

Alarm had better bap stats

[hot onyx]

And Viol2t is probably gonna have to play more passively this season since the dps line this season isn’t even close to the level it was last season

[tawdry hamlet]

I think it's forgivable only because shock has twilight so it doesn't matter if he's only good at bap zen. I think iziyaki is my fav flex though

[mortal abyss]

They were tied for damage/10 (like 3 dmg apart)

[hot onyx]

Plus a new support partner after having synergy with Moth for 2 years might take effect

[plush grail]

HOUSTON TOP 4 LMAOOOO

[tawdry hamlet]

Mayhem top 4

[plush grail]

houston top 4, mayhem top 2, reign top 3

scuffed list

[little tusk]

see alarm did have better bap stats

lets go my memory

[plush grail]

they are investing BIG into scrimbux lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot onyx]

And I actually think that in non bap metas Twilight is a better choice

Gamesense wise

[little tusk]

also damn mano wasn't even top 10 tank

[tawdry hamlet]

It will be interesting to see how violets play style changes since he won't have free reign to do whatever he wants anymore

Since it seemed like in grand finals he was literally just playing dps on bap and I don't think that playstyle will work with new shock roster

[plush grail]

i really feel viol2t is either gonna carry or feed

[tawdry hamlet]

I forgot shanghai added molly to their support line

[hot onyx]

Viol2t Season 4 is gonna be the new Jjonak Season 3

[plush grail]

unable to adapt to new team and mediocre?

[tawdry hamlet]

We shall see

[hot onyx]

Above average still but barely on top 5

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't know about that, he's mechanically far too gifted to drop from arguably number 1-3 to not even top 5 I'd hopee

[hot onyx]

Nah he gets overtaken by the likes of Shu and Gangnamjin

And also loses the motivation with the whole “yeah 5 titles including 2 season championships is probably good enough”

So they give Twilight that playtime back so he can prove his worth again

[tawdry hamlet]

In my head shu is a full tier below the top flexes lmao

[hot onyx]

If Crusty has any sense that is

[tropic herald]

Shu is S

[hot onyx]

Shu is a definite S

[tropic herald]

A starts with GNJ

Also this is NA I’m thinking of

[hot onyx]

Who above GNJ?

[tropic herald]

Viol2t Twilight Shu

That’s S of NA

[mortal abyss]

Fielder

[hot onyx]

OOh that’s hot

[tropic herald]

Fielder is A

[tawdry hamlet]

Jecse fielder rapel overrated af I will not change my mind

[tropic herald]

After Lr1s and Lastro

[hot onyx]

Aztac?!

[tropic herald]

I have a bias against aztac

[tawdry hamlet]

Hope aztac has an alarm like year and pops off

[balmy wolf]

big truers

[hot onyx]

He will

[tropic herald]

I don’t think anyone overrated them

[tawdry hamlet]

I just feel like every time a team gets jecse fielder they're like omg their support so stacked then that team is balls

[hot onyx]

There is an argument that Aztac can be the best FS coming out of contenders

[tropic herald]

They are pretty much average/below

[hot onyx]

Faraway1987 still takes #1 imo though

But Aztac isn’t far behind

[tropic herald]

Ok but like 2 FS came out of tendies this year

[tawdry hamlet]

Chengdu support line

[tropic herald]

4* now that I think

Wait no

5

[tawdry hamlet]

Chengdu could be so so good if they had a solid off tank

[hot onyx]

Kaan Ripa Faraway1987 Mmonk MCD Aztac Skewed

[plush grail]

chengdu need dalton

[tropic herald]

I forgot about the EU fs

That tells you I care

[tawdry hamlet]

I think everyone forgot them

Lmao

[hot onyx]

Kaan will be the shining light of the Eternal this year mark my words

[tawdry hamlet]

Paris will indeed be an interesting team to watch

[hot onyx]

Kaan and Naga

[tawdry hamlet]

If Onigod isn't on ping I believe in him

[tropic herald]

Dps and flex support and the only players I rate from Paris

Even then they are going to be average at best

[tawdry hamlet]

Like broo https://youtu.be/Rya__PUqr80

[hot onyx]

I don’t

[plush grail]

daan > super

[hot onyx]

Strongly agree

[tropic herald]

If Daan isn’t on rein I have a feeling we won’t enjoy watching Paris

Or maybe enjoy it for the wrong reasons

[plush grail]

doesn't daan have a good ball

[tawdry hamlet]

How good is naga outside of echo, I only watched him in gauntlet so I only really saw echo

[tropic herald]

His tracer is good I remember

[plush grail]

as long as daan has a good ball and rein

he'll be fine

[hot onyx]

Put it this way, if Spitfire picked him up instead of fucking Blasè of all people they’d be better than the Reign

[tawdry hamlet]

[plush grail]

tbh

i think blase is gonna do okay

[hot onyx]

Blasè is literally the worst fdps in the league wdym

[tawdry hamlet]

Hmm Id say dalton or chex but at least they have a competent hitscan if you would call bottom of na competent I guess lmao

[hot onyx]

Sorry I worded that incorrectly

Worst starting fdps in the league

[tawdry hamlet]

Fair

[little tusk]

literally the best widow clip ever

no doubt

I'm an onigod fan just cuz of that clip

[plush grail]

dalton isn't even fdps right

he was just forced on genji for some reason

[hot onyx]

Dalton is hitscan lmao

Titans just didn’t have a flex damage

[plush grail]

yeah i just noticed

they only had 2 hitscans???

[hot onyx]

3 hitscan

[plush grail]

oh yeah tsuna

[hot onyx]

Shockwave Dalton and Tsuna

[plush grail]

they legit had 3 hitscan players

[tawdry hamlet]

I swear he was a flex lmao tf I guess it's because I only remember genji and cree loll

Shockwave at least played a nice echo

[plush grail]

shockwave more like

cockwave

[hot onyx]

Philly about to fuck once the visa issues are sorted and they get a triple echo meta

[plush grail]

i still believe echo is fucking busted

her ult

[hot onyx]

Nah her ult is fine

[plush grail]

if u get hit by a flashbang as cree, moira, hog ur ult is just fucking gone

[hot onyx]

The changes that were intended as “April Fools” should’ve gone live for echo

[plush grail]

but echo gets i frames, and a full heal at the end with some more i frames

[tawdry hamlet]

You guys are clearly forgetting to account for jakerat return hence why houston isn't first in your rankings smh

[plush grail]

cant wait to see jake trash talk

[hot onyx]

Houston coaching aren’t gonna realise his potential and use him as a player/coach

[tawdry hamlet]

God I'm just so excited to watch houston play with a real main tank

[hot onyx]

What happens when Outluls play in a non-tracer/sombra meta and need to run Hydration or KSF over Danteh?

Only so much Happy can do without a visit to the chiropractor

[tawdry hamlet]

Happy was such a solid pickup for them

[plush grail]

outluls sign me

[little tusk]

happy is gud yeah

people seem to be split on danteh

some people say he's a god others say he's overrated

[hot onyx]

Oh on heroes that aren’t tracer he is insanely overrated

[tawdry hamlet]

Outside of tracer he's not that useful

Yeah

He has a pretty ok echo and like sombra I think

And a just ok cree iirc but idk

[hot onyx]

If it’s a non tracer meta they could lose to Paris

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot onyx]

Unless their entire game plan is to force tracer as much as possible until the meta revolves around fully countering her

[tawdry hamlet]

They also heavily depend on if their support and tank lines show up or not

Since they're both entirely new

[hot onyx]

They have a bottom 3 support line so that’s out of the window

[tawdry hamlet]

Unfortunate

Hope joobi isn't the next halo but I have a small suspicion he will be

[red anvil]

Danteh is useful on quite a few flankers

[hot onyx]

To some extent I understand them taking a risk on Joobi and trying to get some hidden shine out of him

But why in the name of every religious leader would you sign Crimzo to a team like Houston?

[tawdry hamlet]

Moira dif ez

Crimzo style

But really idk lmao

[hot onyx]

Moira literally only good with lucio comps

[tawdry hamlet]

Paintbrush Crimzo was a weird line to watch last season

Idk where Crimzo lands relative to others anymore

[hot onyx]

Below Kaan and Ripa

Barely better than Wya and Roolf

Well when I say “barely” all you need to do is show up to your post and you’re better than Wya and Roolf

I still remember Fuel vs Fusion and Crimzo being interviewed and saying he thinks “our team is stronger than them, we just cover every role better” or something like that, implying that NotE Gamsu Closer and himself were even playing the same game as Fury Sado Astro and Alarm

[limber pine]

To his credit

what do you expect him to say? "Houston is terrible and we don't stand a chance"

[tawdry hamlet]

I pray someday we see like a titans interview and theyre like "how do you feel going into this matchup with the shock" and they just say something like "yeah we're gonna lose but it's aight" lmao

[trail perch]

I just entirely forgot about innovation

for dallas

[tawdry hamlet]

Whatever they do I hope they planned ahead enough to not have to run a new guy on ping

Since most replacements are in korea

[trail perch]

Maybe stellar?

already in NA on UP

[craggy sandal]

UA is in Kr

[next mesa]

stalker

innovation has some hero pool overlap with doha

[sullen berry]

overlap is okay

lots of teams have just aimed for 2-3 dps that are insanely versatile, with some overlap to cover different playstyles and strategies

[kind ridge]

one day left

until owl

[devout path]

28 hours remaining

[kind ridge]

nœ

lets just say a day

[sullen berry]

yeah that's going to be a very early start for me

which team is more likely to c9 on the opening weekend

[devout path]

That’s gonna be at 3pm for me

[devout path]

Not Boston

[sullen berry]

yeah, which one will be most likely playing this weekend

[plush grail]

boston ir GARBAGE

[sullen berry]

one of these teams can and will

[devout path]

Stfu

Probs valiant or Dallas

[plush grail]

can boston do this???

[devout path]

Probably

[sullen berry]

Luigi is just trolling

he wouldn't really think that boston is bad, haha

right?

[devout path]

Boston top 3 na

No way Boston is bad

[sullen berry]

top 4 I'm far more confident in

[devout path]

Why

[sullen berry]

of all 20 teams

they stack up

you're just referring to NA top 3

I think they could hold a candle up to the teams in the East division

[plush grail]

wow i think a team that went like 3-19 last season is bad??

what a shock

[devout path]

Ok then valiant

[sullen berry]

waiting for him to walk it back like

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean even with their upgrades and renewed hope the justice glads and shock are far too stacked and the other teams at that 4th place spot are looking good atm

[sullen berry]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-a-joke-just-a-joke-penguin-cute-im-not-joking-gif-17171068

@plush grail

[tawdry hamlet]

So I don't think I'd say boston top 3

[sullen berry]

yeah but overall

how high do you rate boston

they're up there in scrimbux for the people that care

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk like top 5 na if dallas and atlanta and mayhem and toronto all manage to flop lmao

I'd put them above toronto at least

[sullen berry]

atlanta can, I'm betting on them not lolol

[tawdry hamlet]

For me boston is like battling for 5th with atlanta or florida depending on who does better

Im not really sure on florida in general though because their roster upgraded and downgraded but at the same time looks the same

[tropic herald]

Guys

https://twitter.com/shu_overwatch/status/1382561652021686273?s=21

Shu (@shu_overwatch)

🤭

Likes

461

Twitter · Apr 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

[tawdry hamlet]

[sullen berry]

fuckasians, OGE, ROCHANI

what a friends list we have here

[tawdry hamlet]

The whole gang

💪

[digital cloud]

sort of unrelated, but a team with fiveK, zunba, and bunny just beat Vision Strikers, the previously undefeated Korean team in Valorant

so proud of our ow dudes rn

[next mesa]

lmao

pog

[raw ermine]

lmfaooo

thats why vision was trending on valor liq

[digital cloud]

ye

[worn falcon]

fuckasians

[digital cloud]

also, in a bit of a twist of irony, zunba played a character that has an ability like grav

[worn falcon]

The heck

[digital cloud]

pretty meta name there ngl

[next mesa]

zunba is the best zarya after all

[digital cloud]

the og

anyway, off topic, especially with owl about to be back but I always get proud when ow dudes do well in new games

[worn falcon]

Owl is tomorrow right?

[devout path]

Owl in 27 and a half hours

!!owl2021

[young fractal]

Rosterpocalypse Reddit Thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/jbnajq/overwatch_league_2021_season_rosterpocalypse
New 2021 Season Info: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/new-2021-season-info-schedule-tournaments-prizing-and-more
Overwatch League 2021 schedule: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule?stage=regular_season&week=1
Countdown: 1 day, 4 hours

[plush grail]

boston bad

[plush grail]

embrace paris

[karmic grotto]

[terse umbra]

??

that true?

[digital cloud]

encore?

that is one way of marketing "playing the same teams twice in a row"

[next mesa]

wow philly about to get back to back swept ✊ 😔

[plush grail]

its dumb

because like if the seoul players have a bad day

they're just gonna get swept

[terse umbra]

yikes

[plush grail]

but twice for some reason???

[terse umbra]

dang gladiators r playing san francisco tomorrow... that'll be fun to watch

[quartz cairn]

lmao imagine getting 4-0'd and needing to get 4-0'd again so the ppl on the other side of the world can watch

💀

[little tusk]

do we have any idea about philly's situation?

I wanna see my boy shockwave :<

[tight hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/831580314752122910/832288313506922496/image0.png I think I’m a little late on these

[next mesa]

I would switch defiant with outlaws seoul with nyxl but wow I totally agree

[tight hill]

I really just didint want to Jynx souel

[plush grail]

there are 2 type of owl fans

peopel that think atlanta are top 4

and mentally stable owl fans

[tight hill]

Yiska explaining that the space is mathematically aligned to have Atlanta and Huston top 5

[balmy wolf]

im pepega idc

[plush grail]

dumb*

[balmy wolf]

im dumb idc

[karmic grotto]

finally you admitted what you always were

[balmy wolf]

as if you couldnt see that before

[devout path]

Atlanta is top 4 tho

Up there with Boston

[plush grail]

STOP

[sullen berry]

don't be ridiculous

top 3 NA

[devout path]

No

Top 1 na

[sullen berry]

just NA

[devout path]

_ _

[sullen berry]

everyone slept on justice before playoffs began iirc

so why not expect titans to carry forward and face off aginst the valiant in the May Melee

[devout path]

If that happens

I’m quitting ow

[sullen berry]

[devout path]

Boston will be owl 2021 champions

Never lose a map

Actually

Never lose a fight

Without a tracer player

And stand1 is blindfolded

As well as never using ults

[plush grail]

?????

[devout path]

Valiant

[sullen berry]

Grand Finals MVP Colourhex and it's a clip of him tbagging Jerry

[devout path]

TRUE

[sullen berry]

because I actually want to rest on most weekends

I'm going to stick with following middle of the pack teams, where matches aren't as one sided

ratlanta, boston, jerry

I'll only watch a Justice game if they play Jerry

it'll save me so much time while I look forward to AVRL casting both philly matches against seoul and valiant

[devout path]

If colourhex tbags jerry that makes him auto best hitscan in the world

[mortal abyss]

https://esportsobserver.com/bilibili-broadcasting-rights-owl/

[digital cloud]

nice

well, owl ought to survive off this

though it might just go full Chinese now

not that that is a bad thing I guess

[mortal abyss]

what do yo uhink viewership is gonna be like tommorow?

[digital cloud]

who

[mortal abyss]

you as in everyone in this server

[plush grail]

at least 3 people

[digital cloud]

well, there was pretty good viewership even for steel series and stuff

I think probably at least 50k for the opening

though not sure if that lasts

[plush grail]

the viewership is gonna be bloated for the tournaments

[digital cloud]

only counting na youtube viewership

[plush grail]

tons of people will just have it open in the background for the skins

[digital cloud]

overall considering chinese viewership maybe like

250k?

not sure if china cares about non chinese teams in general

[mortal abyss]

yeah the chinese times arent great for na

china does care for some western players

[cedar oasis]

Na is boring

[mortal abyss]

agilities had tonnes of chinese fans

[digital cloud]

but yeah, the views ought to be ok the first day

given how it has gone these past few years I imagine the numbers dwindle even more after, however

[next mesa]

chinese viewership 700k

[sullen berry]

it'll be active and sensible to join the live discussion here, because anything the 50 000+ monkeys in YT live chat won't do much but exist

[earnest leaf]

Viewership will be 80k+

[sullen berry]

NA Viewership will definitely tip over 100k

[earnest leaf]

Drops bring in a lot of people

[plush grail]

@sullen berry !tokens

[mortal abyss]

we had drops last year

[sullen berry]

Mr X says stop it

[plush grail]

!drops

[stuck radish]

the shock vs glads match is gonna pull in some views

[mortal abyss]

but they havent advertised owl in game at all

[sullen berry]

Now you can see a little rewards button to link your account.

[mortal abyss]

so a casual fan probably wouldnt know when it starts

[sullen berry]

!!owl2021

[young fractal]

Rosterpocalypse Reddit Thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/jbnajq/overwatch_league_2021_season_rosterpocalypse
New 2021 Season Info: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/new-2021-season-info-schedule-tournaments-prizing-and-more
Overwatch League 2021 schedule: https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/schedule?stage=regular_season&week=1
Countdown: 1 day, 2 hours

[digital cloud]

yeah, I think closer to 50k+

there isn't much advertisement

[sullen berry]

It all depends on if YouTube marketing machine will do anything on the day

[digital cloud]

and youtube doesn't advertise owl like twitch did

[earnest leaf]

Drops took a while to pool in

[digital cloud]

well, it does but

[mortal abyss]

i think like ~70k

[earnest leaf]

But it's been heavily advertised now

[worn falcon]

!drops

[sullen berry]

It certainly has done pervasive popups before to get million of peoples attentions at any given second

[digital cloud]

like, people don't find in the same way as twitch do

[earnest leaf]

Also opening weekend brings a bunch of people

[worn falcon]

i am expecting at least 15k for owl

average

[digital cloud]

yeah, above 15k at least

[mortal abyss]

the experimental tourney got like 25k views

[plush grail]

this chat has like 15 active people

[digital cloud]

most were probably bots

[sullen berry]

You're talking about average viewership

[mortal abyss]

im thinking like 30k avergae for na 20-25 for apac

[plush grail]

so at leas 15

[digital cloud]

can I get a !drops

[mortal abyss]

!drops

[plush grail]

!drops

[digital cloud]

god that was annoying

[sullen berry]

Nah EAST matches are going to be a lot lower than NA Viewership

[digital cloud]

I liked the response though lmao

you mean APAC?

dude, china actually kind of likes ow lol

na doesn't care anymore

probably onto the next cod game now or something

[plush grail]

valorant

[cedar oasis]

Na sucks thats why

Apac is so much more interesting

[noble nexus]

https://twitter.com/LAGladiators/status/1382750871159664641

Los Angeles Gladiators (@LAGladiators)

Due to the existing EU travel ban, Kevster isn't here with us in person at the moment, but he and his visa are ready to join us as soon as he's able. https://t.co/VsOYhJ9RRW

Twitter · Apr 15, 2021, 5:41 PM

[sullen berry]

APAC has the better games on a bad timezone for US

[plush grail]

but NA has players like dalton and crimzo???

[digital cloud]

kevster gone too?

[sullen berry]

pogs

[digital cloud]

man, glads dead in the water too

[noble nexus]

atleast he has his visa

[cedar oasis]

Where else can you see half the teams forget how to play overwatch one week and then be top 5 the next week

[sullen berry]

Did you see his face reveal in the Gladiators video?

[digital cloud]

that didn't happen

lies

[sullen berry]

Kinda sick how he showed up for that

[next mesa]

glads aint beating shock without 30ping kevster tbh

[worn falcon]

bet sfs gonna meme in their first match

[digital cloud]

man, Dallas and Glads down already

this feels so familiar

[next mesa]

honestly instead of a 3-2 id give it a 3-1

[stuck radish]

whats the max amount of maps that can happen in a series

like if every map except control maps is a draw

and escort ig

[plush grail]

unlimited i guess?

[mortal abyss]

Escort can draw

It’s just extremely unlikely

[plush grail]

idk if it takes too long they might just make it sudden death

next map decides it all

[balmy wolf]

https://twitter.com/ATLReign/status/1382741887568711681

Atlanta Reign (@ATLReign)

Let the Reign begin.

@Edison_OW - @yung_ksp - @PELICAN_OW - @Thee_Hawk - @Gator_OW - @Masaa_ow - @ow_Ir1s

#LetItReign | #OWL2021 https://t.co/GWXYsvn87o

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445

Twitter · Apr 15, 2021, 5:05 PM

they finally got a new editor

[karmic grotto]

Niiiiiiooo

[next mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OidzTUW4C5o

[cedar oasis]

Do people expect this to be close

[balmy wolf]

Immortality Field
Now protects teammates to a minimum health threshold of 10% maximum health, down from 20%

[next mesa]

who's gonna play cree for dallas?

sparkle? lmao

[balmy wolf]

like that would change anything

[next mesa]

also why did they buff sombra?

[balmy wolf]

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/experimental/

[karmic grotto]

???

Baptiste one

[balmy wolf]

weird changes fr

[karmic grotto]

direct hit is 20 more heal?

dva lmao

[balmy wolf]

its so dumb it hurts

[plush grail]

???

[karmic grotto]

LOL

[balmy wolf]

roadhog back aswell

wtf

[next mesa]

ayo

[karmic grotto]

makes dva mains go kamikaze and take out that annoying sniper

[balmy wolf]

orisa halt

[next mesa]

you know what this means

[plush grail]

250 damage is fucking dumb

[next mesa]

seoul make another finals run bb

[next mesa]

yeah lik 100 damage pls thank

[karmic grotto]

pull pork meta

[plush grail]

u could bomb a grav and recall in it to kill surviving squishies

[karmic grotto]

this is not goats

zarya dva meta

[next mesa]

they should revert shatter nerf and revert hammer buff

listen to super man

[plush grail]

these buffs are just dumb

we did not need any of these buffs

[raw ermine]

wait the dva change

thats so stupid

[plush grail]

baby dva is supposed to be weak

but if u get too close as tracer or genji

she can just fucking one shot u

[little tusk]

lmao the dva change

also oohhhh baby hog one tricks rejoice

the moira change is huge ugh

[limber pine]

unpopular opinion but I don't think the dva change is going to amount to much

sure you might get a cool kill every 5-10 games or so

but not more than that

[raw ermine]

it goats meta thio

tho*

it would have been brutal

[limber pine]

yup

could we see Orisa Hog for June?

That'd be fun

[earnest leaf]

Nerfing rein lol

[plush grail]

blizzard hates rein i guess lmao

[digital cloud]

just when I was used to his extra armor, they go and pull this

[trail perch]

When I wanted D.Va to step on me, i didnt mean literally

[plush grail]

b r u h

[digital cloud]

well, the mech isn't D.va

so in a sense, it isn't literal

[wanton birch]

So glads lost to Washington during scrims

It was the second day so wouldn’t look into it much though

[mortal abyss]

Where’d you find out about that¿

[wanton birch]

glads youtube vid guess the gladiator, dpei said muze got angry when they lost to justice on their second day of scrims

[ivory mason]

avast malding over atlanta being so high on the power ranking

is the best shit possible

[dry mesa]

im with avast on this one tbh, i just don't see how atlanta is competitive but i will cheer them on and hope they do better this season

[digital cloud]

all these lists having houston and atlanta high give me too much hope

[ivory mason]

i just love how either atlanta is either gonna make ppl that picked them seem super smart or the dumbest ppl in the world

and i am all for it

[plush grail]

Gator hawk

Omegalul

[balmy wolf]

im in for the dumb pog

[ivory mason]

i just dont understand why all the ppl are underrating justice

justice have solid tanks and solid dps

with average support who can handle their own

[limber pine]

Are people underrating them? I've seen them top 5 NA in most rankings.

[ivory mason]

some casters had them on 5 to 8th

washington is a top 3 or 4 team

i dont see a world where they are lower then dallas and mayhem

specially now that dallas just lost xzi aswell

[next mesa]

bebe and closer will be considered a top support duo at the end of the season after justice gets high winrate

[ivory mason]

i believe in bebe

closer idk

i dont even remember if closer was in the league last year

[plush grail]

He was on dallas

[ivory mason]

did he play?

because didnt crimzo and paintbrush played most of the season?

[plush grail]

No

He was in a lot

[ivory mason]

maybe then i didnt watch those matches

[plush grail]

Paintbrush also only joined halfway

[ivory mason]

i started watching regularly after may melee

[next mesa]

painbrush sucked

[plush grail]

Amazing personality

[next mesa]

well dallas sucked

[plush grail]

Not that good

[ivory mason]

yea he was funny in the interviews

[next mesa]

actually that video where he's like "im upset"

this gm of another team said "doing shit like this ensures that you wont be signed to another team"

I forgot who doe

[plush grail]

Dallas had super bad management, you had some people just riding the bench and most of the players weren't even on speaking terms

[ivory mason]

you had akm and unkoe

in the team

for the whole season that did nothing

[plush grail]

Trill too

[ivory mason]

i dont even know who that is

[cedar oasis]

someone unimportant

[plush grail]

Pretty sure he was a off tank player??

[balmy wolf]

mt

[cedar oasis]

i can only remember akm for his genji

[plush grail]

akm blade

[cedar oasis]

thats it

[ivory mason]

akm blade

still makes me laugh

[plush grail]

akm was never benched

just trying to get his blade in the background

[trail perch]

Imagine if we find out who the new player is for Dallas during the match when they just sub them in for map 2

[cedar oasis]

maybey they just put fielder on hitscan

[plush grail]

how good

would fielder widow be

i'd assume pretty good

[cedar oasis]

at least b tier

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/boxedbento/status/1382726465100394504?s=21

evan blevins (@boxedbento)

justice is one of the only two teams this off-season that reportedly got players to turn down bigger paydays to join them. the other team won two championships. justice went 4-17. that's what culture does for a team

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Twitter · Apr 15, 2021, 4:04 PM

[cedar oasis]

well

i wonder why decay decided to join them

[plush grail]

a new dallas cycle is starting

a cycle where a top tier korean dps underperforms because of shit management and becomes the star dps on a different team

[cedar oasis]

explain

doha or sp8rkle sholdent underperform

[plush grail]

do not underestimate the fuel

[karmic grotto]

rantum

[tropic herald]

real wonder or what?

[worn falcon]

do not underestimate the chengdu

they have more probabilities than boston

[karmic grotto]

culture

justice doin pretty well

[craggy sandal]

also supreme is very well respected and a lot of players want to work with him

[trail perch]

Decay did not underperform lol

He solo won this team games

and secured a spot as a top 5 hitscan in the world

[karmic grotto]

He used to carry Fuel

I remember

[ivory mason]

decay was still outperforming his team in dallas

thats why it was so difficult to see a great player not reaching his peak

[digital cloud]

or perhaps it was his peak

[next mesa]

Can't reach your peak with that trash team

[tropic herald]

Lots of people want to play with Decay

[ivory mason]

i highly doubt that was his peak

when he absolutely crushed everyone with justice in playoff

on an off role

[tropic herald]

I don’t know if I’d consider his Zarya an off role

It’s always been insane

He just wasn’t better than SMS or Sin in S2 so no one cared

[earnest leaf]

shh don't say that

The decay fanboys will be adamant he is the best zarya to ever exist

Even though sin/sms rolled people for 3 stages on the hero

[ivory mason]

sms?

who is sms?

[raw ermine]

seominsoo

[ivory mason]

ahhh

[trail perch]

hehe im here

[ivory mason]

yea seominsoo and sinatraa were the top 2 zarya

[trail perch]

But yeah he wasnt the best GOATS zarya

[ivory mason]

tbh ow season 2 is like a fever dream to me

i barely remember most of it

[trail perch]

prob the best zarya now tho

[ivory mason]

except shanghai winning stage 3

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/LAGladiators/status/1382750871159664641

Los Angeles Gladiators (@LAGladiators)

Due to the existing EU travel ban, Kevster isn't here with us in person at the moment, but he and his visa are ready to join us as soon as he's able. https://t.co/VsOYhJ9RRW

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Twitter · Apr 15, 2021, 5:41 PM

[tropic herald]

I remember stage 3 playoffs were super hype

[ivory mason]

kevster playing on ping again

man

shanghai the last team to get in stage 3 playoff

beating everyone infront of them

[tropic herald]

They beat 1st 2nd and 3rd team

[ivory mason]

its was one of the best feel good stories

then the role lock happened

and shanghai couldnt play 3 dps anymore

and well the rest is history

[tribal canopy]

The games are first to 3 right?

[ivory mason]

yes

first to 3 or best of 5

whatever you prefer

[tropic herald]

First to 3

Toilet bowl exists

[fierce coral]

any bot to Discord can notify when OWL stream is up?

[raw ermine]

https://top.gg/bot/685786040681627671
Never used this before, but I googled for 5 min and it came up

[earnest leaf]

One of these is not like the others

[raw ermine]

2

or 5 depending on your POV

[ivory mason]

^

[wanton birch]

I’m gonna be honest I saw a bit of ta1yo mei in ranked and hopefully he plays better in actual games cause Jesus Christ

[earnest leaf]

plz tell me this didn't whoosh you guys so hard

So GBS is on Uprising Academy

Not Boston Uprising

[next mesa]

Yep

[earnest leaf]

So either owl fucked up by thinking he was on the owl roster, or they leaked it

[next mesa]

👀👀 OOOOO

Most likely a leak

Ngl

[earnest leaf]

They already leaked boston stuff lmao

[next mesa]

Facts

Stand1 gaebullsi is really good

[ivory mason]

tbh i didnt even know who gbs was so i just accepted he was part of theam

the team*

[next mesa]

The

[ivory mason]

he is just gonna sit on the bench or play something super rare

[next mesa]

Second most promising ot

?

From contenders

[ivory mason]

i dont watch contenders

[fierce coral]

dont work 😦

[ivory mason]

i just started getting into contenders this season

[next mesa]

Welcome

Yeah a lot of people

Thought it was weird

Why he's not signed

[ivory mason]

ahhh

if he is good

why didnt a big team pick him up?

[wanton birch]

I mean his mei gamplay looks bad even for a bench player

[ivory mason]

his genji was bad aswell and he was signed to play genji

then rascal had to come and play genji for them

[earnest leaf]

My guess is ta1yo will be used for certain strats on certain maps

[balmy wolf]

tay1o is not projectile dps lmao

hes hard hitscan

so he be competing with striker and glister for a starting spot

[earnest leaf]

shock will probably start either striker/nero, or glister/nero if it's mei mcree

[tropic herald]

Mr Penis Fish in OWL

[earnest leaf]

Now if he really is in the league

how many freudian slips are we gonna get

[trail perch]

Second?

Do you really rate LiGe over GBS?

[tropic herald]

Yes

[trail perch]

Well to each their own

I think GBS looked better on a worse team, playing around a worse MT

I rate GAGA better than muze and zebag

[tropic herald]

Ga9a and MuZe are both good idk if I could firmly rate one over the other

[trail perch]

even if u think their even, CC def had a sup diff over WGS

I mean 1987 and Superrich vs Aztac and Faith

[next mesa]

Yep

[trail perch]

GBS looked equal or better with worse team around him

[next mesa]

The point is

[trail perch]

Hes very good

[next mesa]

He's a top prospect and it was surprising he didn't find a team

[trail perch]

Yeah with him I heavy rate boston

@devout path is prob very happy

[devout path]

?

[trail perch]

GBS leaked

For boston

[devout path]

?

who is that

[trail perch]

One of the top OT prospects

[devout path]

but punk

[trail perch]

Significantly better than punk

Think hanbin or Cr0ng

[devout path]

but owl starts tomorrow

oh crong

[trail perch]

Yeah he was on the academy team

[devout path]

nvm

[trail perch]

and the league did a oopsie

[trail perch]

check this

[tepid ibex]

Boston doesn’t play until week 2 right

[trail perch]

yeah

[devout path]

nice

i need to watch him play

[trail perch]

He played very well in contenders KR finals

WGS vs Runaway

Or literally any contenders s2 2020 match

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/leakmafia_ow/status/1382847327505829892?s=21

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

We took a lot of time doing this.

Twitter · Apr 16, 2021, 12:04 AM

Found this on the TL looks interesting

[next mesa]

glad to see mayhem so high

Profit #1

[earnest leaf]

this a power rankings on the players per role, or scrimbux?

[next mesa]

is profit injured

idk maybe on scrimbux

yoo fdgod over moth

I see u

slime

lets gooooo

[earnest leaf]

surprised on how low choi is rated

[next mesa]

actually i was listening to tactical crouch

apparently choi is a little overrated

[earnest leaf]

based off scrims?

[next mesa]

like personal skill I guess

I mean when you are off tank on the #1 team the only way to go is down

so

[balmy wolf]

choi is the not best mechanically skill, but hes a rock in always giving u steady performances

[next mesa]

yes

[tropic herald]

Choi been overrated for a while

[next mesa]

He def wont be a problem

ayo calm down here

[tropic herald]

He’s not bad but he’s not top dog in OT

[balmy wolf]

he aint top 2 in 2019 but hes still top 10 or even 5

guys has never dipped that hard in his career

[earnest leaf]

We'll have to see how he goes this season

[next mesa]

lets not be trippin here he's still top 2 ot last season

i rate him behind void but like accomplishment wise he's the goat

[tropic herald]

I do not rate Choi top 2 last year if we talking The Whole league

[next mesa]

hm this man's trippin

[earnest leaf]

empathy does hate shock

[next mesa]

what happened to ur mod

[tropic herald]

Too much work not enough time

Also no I don’t hate Shock

I just think people overrate lets of them a lot

[next mesa]

how do u overrate someone whos #1

[tropic herald]

Parts of the team*

[earnest leaf]

I don't think anyone on shock is really overrated

At least the players that have stayed on shock

I can see people overrating the new players

[devout path]

how can you look at that and think that boston is not a top 5 team

[earnest leaf]

But Fdgod was pretty solid all of last year, glister was also looking solid even on london

[next mesa]

scrimbux scrimbux

I see flex dps being a weak spot

but otherwise

we good

I trust fdgod and glister

nero idk

[earnest leaf]

I think nero just needs to be competent

[tropic herald]

Choi is not as good as people say he is and he’s really not good at zarya

[next mesa]

whos ur top 3

ot

last season

[earnest leaf]

Zarya has barely been meta in owl

It's sig/dva 99% of the time

[tropic herald]

Void Cr0ng HanBin

Choi top 3 is season 2 copium

[earnest leaf]

but in the end

the crusty diff is too strong

[next mesa]

it doesnt even matter

striker diff

no

viol2t diff*

[balmy wolf]

just a team diff

[vagrant cargo]

Based

[balmy wolf]

Tho i dont think really think the diff are that big on OT's

[vagrant cargo]

BASED

I have choi 6th

[tropic herald]

I think while Choi is not top 5 he’s certainly not bad at OT

[earnest leaf]

lol Yiska just said shock scrimbux are unreliable

[tropic herald]

He’s just not stellar

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah

His dva sig are rlly good

[tropic herald]

If meta stays Mei based then Shock should be ok for this tourney cycle

[vagrant cargo]

His zarya hog are eh

[balmy wolf]

his hog is actually top tier wdym

[tropic herald]

Meanwhile Void on every off tank

[balmy wolf]

just doesnt need to play it

[tropic herald]

I don’t think it’s good to base the worth of his hog when the last time we saw it for extended periods of time was season 2

[vagrant cargo]

His hog was so bad

Vs justice

And vs paris in reg season

[balmy wolf]

i remember the reg season

they 3-0 them

[vagrant cargo]

Paris almost won the map

That they played hog on

Blizzworld

[balmy wolf]

oh boi you're just picking on scraps at this points

[vagrant cargo]

How lmfao

[earnest leaf]

I'm still predding glads beat shock 3-2 though

[vagrant cargo]

Whenever choi played hog in S3 he looked eh

[earnest leaf]

shock likes to fuck around early season and throw

well not throw

[tropic herald]

Glads win the match no way Shock wins

[earnest leaf]

just be slow with the meta

[vagrant cargo]

Anyways profit that low makes me happy

[earnest leaf]

and houston will 3-0 dallas

[tropic herald]

Even if Shock try they get fdps diffed

[earnest leaf]

mark my words

Happy POTM

big dicking dallas

[balmy wolf]

its happy time

[tropic herald]

Happy is the only player I have faith for on that team

[balmy wolf]

tho houston has a choking problem against dallas

last season was a pain to watch everytime to played against df

[tropic herald]

The only way Dallas win is that tanks just like pull the win out of their ass

[balmy wolf]

they somehow threw it away

my only hope this season is spark is actually top tier

if not then im gonna be pretty sad

[tropic herald]

They aren’t going to be that good

Meh if anything

[balmy wolf]

also boston, plz get more than 3 wins this year

it cant be that hard

[next mesa]

I dont think glads can win with kevster on ping

although mcgravy is like

ping doesnt matter at all

[tropic herald]

most of the time it doesnt matter

[balmy wolf]

only matters beyond 100 ms

[earnest leaf]

So long as it is stable it isn't super bad

[vagrant cargo]

Kevster was on ping last season too

And steel series

[tropic herald]

yea if the ping is stable id say up to 200 is fine, and with dps its pretty easy to deal with

[balmy wolf]

once u reach 200 then is unplayable

like playing in jello

[tropic herald]

id say hitscan is pretty playable above 200

this is from experience too

[balmy wolf]

in owl? its probs better to play someone else, regardless of their skill

his ping should be around 70 tho

[tropic herald]

if hes playing sweden to east coast thats probably 100