esports-discussion

[next mesa]

yeah so avril said

[balmy wolf]

can you count

[next mesa]

avrl*

Packing10 was gonna sign Develop if Kai didint exist

didnt*

on contenders cast

so yeah

not surprised

[cedar oasis]

i would say hydration performed better then gator last season

[tepid ibex]

Atlanta I say will get wins from Vancouver and maybe Paris convincingly?

[cedar oasis]

maybey london

[tepid ibex]

Everything else will either be hard or they get stomped

[cedar oasis]

they will take houstonto map 5 tho

[balmy wolf]

cant wait for the season

[next mesa]

scrimbux

this is why we play the games

[balmy wolf]

imma laugh at you

[tepid ibex]

Laugh when Atlanta is like bottom 3

[balmy wolf]

bro

[next mesa]

wont be bottom 3 man wtf

[balmy wolf]

i cant take you seriously

[cedar oasis]

they wont be bottom 3

bottom 5 tho

[next mesa]

I rate them below mayhem doe

[balmy wolf]

even atlanta simp no1 says they are not bot 3

that says a lot

[cedar oasis]

i mean

[balmy wolf]

same

i believe in kuki

[next mesa]

foh sho

[cedar oasis]

the only reason they arent bottom 3 is because of houston and london

[next mesa]

and on paper I mean its just so much more stacked and I think oge has a high chance of succeeding

under kuki

[cedar oasis]

oge

didnt he peak already

[next mesa]

idk what to think about boston

[plush grail]

b st n

[balmy wolf]

valentine great

rest meh

faith is good too sry

[plush grail]

myungbong too

[balmy wolf]

kinda but hes no highlight

he wont carry

[plush grail]

i really think switching jerry for im37 wont make a major difference

[ivory mason]

I think London has potential to suprise alot of ppl

Specially when sparkr is legal to play

[balmy wolf]

id say im37 is their worst player

[ivory mason]

Well they have an improved main tann

Tank*

[next mesa]

gator hawk over stand1 punk?

[cedar oasis]

no

[balmy wolf]

yes

[ivory mason]

And valentine is so much better then colorhex

[cedar oasis]

stand1 is way better then gator

[ivory mason]

Hawk is better then punk

So

[balmy wolf]

gator is better than stand1

[cedar oasis]

punk and hawk are basicaly the same

[ivory mason]

It adds up

[tepid ibex]

in what universe

[ivory mason]

Gator is a better dps then stand1

[mortal abyss]

gator

is not

[cedar oasis]

dam atlanta simps

[mortal abyss]

better then stand1

[cedar oasis]

making no sense

[balmy wolf]

this

[plush grail]

@cedar oasis ur the biggest atlanta simp hero bro

[ivory mason]

Well have we seen gator play with a good team?

[balmy wolf]

no @cedar oasis is

[cedar oasis]

shut ur face

[ivory mason]

Stand1 played with an amazing shanghai and still got benched

[balmy wolf]

xD

[ivory mason]

So

[plush grail]

love hate relationship

[ivory mason]

And then they sold him to get fate

[tepid ibex]

a lot of tanks would get benched by fearless in a monkey meta

[mortal abyss]

that doesn't mean he's better though lol

[cedar oasis]

when stand1 played he looked very good

[plush grail]

legit every player besides maybe smurf

[ivory mason]

But that also doesn't mean he cant be better with a good team

[cedar oasis]

when gator played he looked like trash

[plush grail]

nobdy else is able to bench fearless during a monkey meta lmaooo

[mortal abyss]

but he doesnt have a good team

stand1 has a better supporting cast

[ivory mason]

That's my point on stand1 being better then gator

In general not as a team

If gator had a better support with him he can be better then stand1

I think so atleast

Personal opinion

[balmy wolf]

pog

[ivory mason]

But they all fighting for who stays on top of bottom 5

[plush grail]

sbb > fearless

[ivory mason]

So idk what's the point of it

All

Hadi > profit

[cedar oasis]

you dont need a top 5 support line to be a top 5 tank

[mortal abyss]

idk apparently boston are like top 5 in scrims according to fdgod

[plush grail]

idk man, there's so many things to do in this world but we all decided to spend our time discussing a video game league

[ivory mason]

Top 5 in scrims is idk is it even worth anything

[balmy wolf]

look at sado

[next mesa]

HUH

[plush grail]

pretty sure a coach talked about this somewhere

not everyone is trying to win in scrims

[mortal abyss]

ik

[ivory mason]

I love that but i would love if we discussed good teams xd

[cedar oasis]

sado just sucked tho

[ivory mason]

Its a joke dw

[cedar oasis]

i mean if your not a top 5 tank with alarm funnyastro and fury by your side your just bad

[balmy wolf]

true

[ivory mason]

But he was

Last year

He was really good

Till grand finals

[mortal abyss]

scrimbux obviously arent 100% accurate but it's still pretty interesting that boston are doing so well in scrims that fd would rate them so highly

[ivory mason]

And then the whole philly sucked

[balmy wolf]

where he played good teams

[cedar oasis]

philly just choked as a team

[balmy wolf]

with good mt with good supps

[mortal abyss]

philly just didnt know how to play hog sig

[ivory mason]

No one popped off in grand finals for philly except maybe carpe and alarm abit

[mortal abyss]

on a fundamental level

[ivory mason]

Yea grand final meta didn't suit them at all

[plush grail]

i will eat sand if boston makes it out of the middle of NA

[ivory mason]

It was the opposite of everything they worked

[mortal abyss]

on paper you would think they would pound at the gf meta

[ivory mason]

Why would you think that

Fury is a good sig

But hog?

[mortal abyss]

alarm on zen carpe on widow ivy on hanzo

[ivory mason]

Or ball

[mortal abyss]

fury is a a great hog and poko is a really good sig

sado's hog isnt even bad

[ivory mason]

But they didn't play them till the very end

It wasn't as good as gesture or supers or even stand1

[next mesa]

people saying seoul got lucky in the gf meta but like shock did a bit too

[ivory mason]

If it was monkey meta

We would have seen a different grand finals

Shock would still be there tho

[mortal abyss]

well thats because philly as a whole suck and if a team sucks there's not much a mt can do to make themselves look good

it wld probably be shock shanghai fusion nyxl

[ivory mason]

But i still think a different meta would have given them a better chance

[mortal abyss]

yeah 4sure

[ivory mason]

Like not to be embarrassed atleast

[mortal abyss]

if it was sombra reaper rush they had a really good chance

[ivory mason]

Yea

Philly and Shanghai would be my final for that meta

[plush grail]

what if

sbb redemption arc

[ivory mason]

I like sbb but I don't like seoul

So

Idk if wanna see that xd

[plush grail]

why do u not like seoul

[ivory mason]

Idk from the first season i could never root for them

[cedar oasis]

how could you not like seoul

they have so many good players

and they fail so much

[plush grail]

yeah they have sbb

and sbb

[cedar oasis]

its really funny

where else can you see a team beat shanghai then get dominated by chungdu

[ivory mason]

Sbb probably won't even get a match

[plush grail]

nyxl

[ivory mason]

Until they need tracer and echo

[cedar oasis]

nyxl never beat shanghai

ever

i think

[ivory mason]

Ever

Ever ever

[cedar oasis]

im like 70 percent sure they didnt beat shanghai

[ivory mason]

Or just kart season

[plush grail]

get fucked atlanta fanboy

[ivory mason]

Last*

[cedar oasis]

lmao

[ivory mason]

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT

Season 1 everyone beat shanghai

[cedar oasis]

i ment last season

[ivory mason]

You said ever tho

[cedar oasis]

you got me there

[plush grail]

can we talk about his favorite team again?

[ivory mason]

Atlanta?

Or boston

[cedar oasis]

dont listen to the eqo simp

[plush grail]

bruh

eqo is just mad underrated

[next mesa]

Ivy better doe

[cedar oasis]

true

[plush grail]

no

[noble nexus]

you're saying eqo is better than ivy?

[plush grail]

yes

[noble nexus]

lmao

[cedar oasis]

LMAO

[plush grail]

the truth hurts nerds

[next mesa]

LMAO

[cedar oasis]

thats a big hot take

[next mesa]

ivy bench eqo on his best hero

genji

[cedar oasis]

eqo is average

[raw ermine]

LMAO

[plush grail]

ur average

[cedar oasis]

lmao

[noble nexus]

ngl I'm convinced

[cedar oasis]

thats the meanest thing i have ever been called

[plush grail]

eqo is a great fdps

my argument: fuck u

[cedar oasis]

average at best

he is on hydrations level

[plush grail]

BRO

NO

[cedar oasis]

yea

[next mesa]

good argument bro

[cedar oasis]

eqo isnt as good as other top tier flex dps

he is better then some of the middle tier ones

[plush grail]

im veyr good at arguments

[next mesa]

also diem 2021 widow champion

[plush grail]

is diya also getting picked up

[cedar oasis]

yea to dallas

[next mesa]

diya got offered it technically counts

its not myfault diya said I dont wanna join your bumass team

[plush grail]

keep dreaming buddy

[earnest leaf]

wait

what if dallas got diya

[cedar oasis]

probably not

[next mesa]

chinese doe

[cedar oasis]

but some can hope

[next mesa]

truee

diya is like chinese carpe

[cedar oasis]

sure

sure

[next mesa]

I mean

same hero pool

well at least diya won something I guess

[mortal abyss]

carpe won world cup if that counts

[wanton birch]

i cant wait to watch avrls games

[raw ermine]

when do we get diya OWWC?

[tropic herald]

Also who doubting the Houston win pred now

[earnest leaf]

I predicted a 3-0

Unless they sign a nasty mcree player soon

it isn't looking too good

[tawdry hamlet]

and just like that fuel below justice

pretty wild xzi retired and rip susanoo

on the bright side, if they can get a more flexible player they could still potentially come out of this better than they were since they actually have the money

I just don't know who is left

[karmic grotto]

Didn't I tell you guys? Jerry > xzi

Non believers get rekt

[tawdry hamlet]

retiring 3 days before opening day

more excitement before season

[earnest leaf]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/mqdrr5/summary_of_xzis_stream_after_the_announcement/

[karmic grotto]

2 days left

At least for me

Oh man

Can't fucking wait

[tawdry hamlet]

so is there anybody they can get that would make them better than they would have been with xzi?

[karmic grotto]

I'll go to supermarket and buy good food and drinks

[raw ermine]

probably not, seeing as xzi had synergy

[earnest leaf]

xzi was also arguably the best cree in the league

[tawdry hamlet]

I guess they could go looking for someone like uh idk stitch or something lmao

[karmic grotto]

[tawdry hamlet]

The Dallas Pain Cycle Continues

[earnest leaf]

dallas most likely comes out worse from this

unless they can somehow get ans to go back to OW

[karmic grotto]

Lol

With what money

Ans already signed a contract

[earnest leaf]

the point is that it's unrealistic

[karmic grotto]

I mean

They can always can get effect back

[tawdry hamlet]

genuinely can't think of anyone outside of t2 apac players they could grab that would fit that well

since they are not doing mixed at all so their options are so much more limited

[earnest leaf]

xzi said during his stream the people they were trying out were korean

[karmic grotto]

Finally

My chance to shine

If I was Korean and in Contenders

[next mesa]

When avast said tobi is a massive downgrade on lucio and mercy you know he doesn't know what he's talking about

[karmic grotto]

Avast? The washes up Boston player

[tawdry hamlet]

could you imagine if of all choices they went with someone like Ado

[earnest leaf]

avast has good takes

and some not so good takes

[karmic grotto]

Ado is not bad

But like man

Guy is unlucky

[tawdry hamlet]

did you watch runaway play last night or I guess day or whatever it was for eu

he looked awful lmao

[karmic grotto]

XD

Nvm then

[tawdry hamlet]

runaway got 3-0 by talon

[karmic grotto]

Ez

[tawdry hamlet]

ig Babel is still out there but I can't really think of that many players they can choose from

[trail perch]

develop...

[next mesa]

Ado didn't look that bad though

But like usually

Ado get like a pick when his whole team already is fucked

[tawdry hamlet]

talon was rolling them hard that series

it was fun to watch

[raw ermine]

cursed

[next mesa]

Who is that

Nenne?

[karmic grotto]

No

It's Ennen

[raw ermine]

that's space

[karmic grotto]

^

Y'all blind

[cobalt spoke]

You really don't have a member role by now?

[next mesa]

Who is this

SHOCK SIMP

Omg welcome back

Oh I got taken away a long time ago

I spammed and got muted

It's been like

10 months lul

[cobalt spoke]

Unluckers

[hot onyx]

Mega based

[karmic grotto]

I forgot about him

[tropic herald]

Develop following Hastr0

[ivory mason]

Tobi is a downgrade on lucio

But not on mercy

Astro mercy is pretty average

[tropic herald]

If develop joins OWL that will be 4 players from that cursed team

[raw ermine]

lol

LW red had a r0ar hotba tank line

oof

[trail perch]

OZ gaming kinda cracked ngl

[next mesa]

So u tell me 4 owl caliber players

Couldn't like

Win a game

[hot onyx]

And yet Gaebullsi can’t get in owl

Or Revenge

Or Kalios

Or Proper

[tropic herald]

kalios and revenge just arent that impressive

proper is 17

idk how gbs didnt get in tbh

[hot onyx]

Revenge should’ve been signed over Bebe and I will spread that message even when owl is a dead scene

Is Chiyo not 18?

Because Chiyo Revenge >>>> Closer Bebe

[next mesa]

revenge was really good

id say second best fs in korea contenders last season

[hot onyx]

Who first? Aztac?

[buoyant coyote]

Who do you think will replace Xzi?

[tawdry hamlet]

If it isn't develop then no idea whatsoever

[buoyant coyote]

Is sigma good and eligible to play in the league?

[next mesa]

yes

[hot onyx]

My guess was MN3 but apparently he’s not 18 so if it isn’t Develop I haven’t a clue

[buoyant coyote]

Ok

[hot onyx]

I agree, Aztac is an absolute nut

[buoyant coyote]

I really hope they get a good replacement quickly, (I’m a Dallas fan)

[next mesa]

develop

[hot onyx]

Rapel Hitscan

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot onyx]

Pull a 2018 Kariv moment

[tawdry hamlet]

It'd be absolutely mad if they didn't pick someone else up and forced sparkle and doha to fill everything

Be big funnies

[hot onyx]

Did they have Xzi available during the Gauntlet against Atl Academy?

[tropic herald]

yeah

the choices for dallas rn, kilo, develop, mer1t, sigma, innovation

[hot onyx]

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Sigma western?

[tropic herald]

sigma is korean

[hot onyx]

Ah ok I just made the assumption since I don’t watch much NA contenders

[earnest leaf]

isn't sigma kind of a tracer otp

and his other hitscans are mid tier

[hot onyx]

Still not the best choice unless he’s a temp like Hotba and Tobi since his hero pool is literally: tracer

[tawdry hamlet]

Sigma has like mcree listed on his liquidpedia but I've only seen his tracer

[tropic herald]

his mccree is pretty solid

not like his tracer

[hot onyx]

And Innovation is cracked but Fuel already has 2 flex dps players

[tropic herald]

if owl has taught me anything, just sign more dps players and you get better

[hot onyx]

Aight then Outlaws 2021 champions

[tawdry hamlet]

I doubt innovation would be picked up since he's like the new team cc leader now

[hot onyx]

That’s also a good point

[tropic herald]

t1 runaway

hanamura

t1 on defense

krillin incident

[tawdry hamlet]

Did you watch runaway fall over and die to talon yesterday night emp

It was sadge

[tropic herald]

yeah i watched them get 3-0ed

runaway looks absolutely shit

except like maybe mer1t

[hot onyx]

Runaway for the first time in a while aren’t even top 5 contenders

[tawdry hamlet]

Depressing given their roster

[hot onyx]

I’d honestly give 5th place to BM

[tropic herald]

ado really looks bad too

[tawdry hamlet]

Talon gapped them in like every role like it looked like they just won a team fight like nothing

[tropic herald]

i think chiyo and mer1t are the only players that impress me

[tawdry hamlet]

Reminds me of first round na contenders where the lower teams all get booted out fast af

[tropic herald]

on the other hand t1, talon, cc and o2 are fun to watch

[hot onyx]

Honestly compared to MN3 Proper Ezhan and Develop, Mer1t has kinda dropped off since his peak

[tropic herald]

yeah

[hot onyx]

I’m more impressed by Babel tbh

[tropic herald]

as long as proper keeps getting better than idc about the others

although im excited about han

[hot onyx]

Don’t sleep on MN3

That would be the last mistake you make

[tropic herald]

i think mn3 is good but ive been watching proper forever

[tawdry hamlet]

I am predicting now, spark will forget how to play overwatch again this season

[tropic herald]

i think on sunday krystal is going to diff carpe

[hot onyx]

Honestly I’m about to drop a ghost pepper level hot take on how spark can improve

[tropic herald]

if spark want to improve then they just drop all their extra players and actually get good subs

[hot onyx]

If they don’t forget that Takoyaki exists and they don’t run Guxue 24/7 on heroes that aren’t monke then they won’t be as weak

[tawdry hamlet]

Seominsoo moment

[tropic herald]

spark drop sms godsb coldest and idk challenge

[tawdry hamlet]

But I'm pretty confident in the tank line choices with like bernar and lige and architect isn't bad but I'm not sure on rest

[tropic herald]

lige is on the team so other teams cant have him

[hot onyx]

Dude Architect is not as good as high level fdps players anymore

[tropic herald]

i think keeping architect is good

but he shouldnt be the main flex

[tawdry hamlet]

Architect can hold his own on tracer at least

[tropic herald]

and sms shouldnt even be on the team

[hot onyx]

Now hear me out

Imagine an SMS zarya LiGe sigma meta

[tawdry hamlet]

I saw a tweet when seo was signed that he performed super well in trialing and that they didn't just sign him for the name since they got a lot of that criticism

But every team says that so

Who knows

[tropic herald]

arent spark coaches also the nepotism ones

[tawdry hamlet]

I forgot about shy

Also how is kaneki, I only saw his tracer in the shanghai masters but are his other heroes like top or nah

[tropic herald]

chengdu dps goated

only heard praise for kaneki

[tawdry hamlet]

Lowkey forgot how massive chengdu roster is rn

[tropic herald]

its a 12 man

[hot onyx]

Imagine if Chengdu didn’t have a bottom 5 off tank

[tropic herald]

also a similar situation to spark where they could drop many players and feel nothing

[hot onyx]

Imagine Hunters with LiGe

3rd best Apac if they did

[tawdry hamlet]

Chengdu have lots of potential in each role and also tons of extras they don't really need

[tropic herald]

here is how end of season apac will look:

shanghai

anyone

lav

[tawdry hamlet]

Their support line got monk 1987 and yveltal

[hot onyx]

Ah yes the amount of potential in Elsa is never ending

[tropic herald]

im lowkey hoping elsa was ass bc he was forced into ball comps

[hot onyx]

Would Fury be ass if he was forced into ball comps?

[tawdry hamlet]

If he was duoing with sado, probably

[tropic herald]

probably

[tawdry hamlet]

But idk spark charge and hunters could go literally any way they have so much new talent

[tropic herald]

im sure if ball is off meta and fury is forced to play dva or zarya in ds then he will not look good

[tawdry hamlet]

And then nyxl exists with the dps line

[hot onyx]

Yeah but nyxl coaching

[tropic herald]

they made whynot head

and supposedly whynot good

but i also heard this from halo who simps for ny

[hot onyx]

Ah yes the assistant to the mastermind that said “fuck it nenne bad come here mr projectile man play windowmaker”

[tawdry hamlet]

Ok but speaking of the name halo, did you guys see other halo on lucio in rush for collegiate finals, dude was out of his mind

[tropic herald]

lets be real here

nenne was not good last year

[hot onyx]

Oh god yeah Nenne was in the lower half of hs players without a doubt

But was he Muma levels of bad that he had to be subbed out for a fdps to off role as a full blown replacement?

[tropic herald]

theres a lot more factors to this than just player performance so i cant answer this

it couldve been nenne did not want to play

[hot onyx]

Make a play for Decay during the signing window then

Nyxl with Decay would’ve been stacked but I’m sure Libero was to have a better hs than both Nenne and Sbb

[next mesa]

elsa is just not good

[hot onyx]

Based

[tropic herald]

im pretty sure pre is a god at making players come to his team so idk if he wouldve gone to ny

[hot onyx]

Sell Nenne Whoru Hotba and Mandu on the black market and hard bribe Decay to join New York

[tropic herald]

if decay cared about money he wouldnt have gone to justice

[hot onyx]

Pretty sure if Decay cared about winning he wouldn’t have gone to a team with Roar and Ttuba on the starting lineup

[next mesa]

it was mid season

[tropic herald]

he went to justice bc he knew he wouldnt get mismanaged there

thats why he went there

the winning was a plus

[hot onyx]

That’s pretty fair tbh

[hot onyx]

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t it after the Countdown Cup that he joined?

[next mesa]

like a lot more than mid season

it was like 3/4 season

[tropic herald]

he got picked up going into regionals

[tawdry hamlet]

Who do you think made the biggest upgrades this season

I'd probably say washington if we counted decay but without I guess maybe toronto idk

[tropic herald]

justice for sure

roar to mag

jjanu to fury

[tawdry hamlet]

Stitch to decay assassin in general

Hella stack

[trail perch]

jjanu to fury fr isnt that much of an upgrade tho

jjanu was still an A or S tier off tank

Top 4 Dva, top 3 Hog, prob top zar

it was a def an upgrade to be sure, but by how much is in question

[tropic herald]

jjanu was good at dva hog and ..

fury is good at all 4

def a worthwhile upgrade

[trail perch]

jjanu wasnt bad at sig

Jjanu was still a top OT

[tawdry hamlet]

nenne

God this is such a dallas moment lmaoo

Everyone made the jokes and 2 days out this happens lmao

[tawdry hamlet]

Given tracer was their weak point and some people saying they might get two players I genuinely think sigma could be picked up if he can perform like that on odyssey with 200 ping

[plush grail]

what if

dallas get dalton

[next mesa]

Lol

I'd rather have sparkle on hitscan

[plush grail]

i saw a post somewhere

saying that dallas should trade doha or sparkle for fleta lmao

[next mesa]

Not gonna happen

[plush grail]

why the actual fuck would fleta leave a top 2 team for dallas

[idle gorge]

why are we even caring about all this shock is probably going to win it all again, they have a player for almost every fucking hero

[next mesa]

Almost

Sombra doom

[idle gorge]

nero could probably play some sombra i reckon

[mortal abyss]

https://overwatchleague.com/en-us/news/live-events-returning-to-china-this-season

(Live events in China )

June 4-6: Hangzhou Spark (June Joust)
July 9-11: Shanghai Dragons (Summer Showdown)
August 7-8: Guangzhou Charge (Countdown Cup)

Only the Chinese teams (Guangzhou shanghai hunters spark and valiant) will be on stage live, the teams based in Korea will play remotely

Very hype as the Chinese crowds are supposed to be insanely large an intense

I remember that one picture of a hangzhou spark watch party that had filled up like 3 stories of a shopping mall

[upper niche]

lol, this is perfect: https://twitter.com/Enderrex11/status/1382016250952491015

EnderRex1 (@Enderrex11)

@overwatchleague @SFShock @LAGladiators I AM THE SENATE!

Twitter · Apr 13, 2021, 5:02 PM

[sullen berry]

no doubt it will be weird at first having a one sided audience cheering against a team playing from Korea.
That homestand energy will be awesome to bring back - hope the casters are be able to fly over

[ornate cipher]

dababy

[hot onyx]

With the season long pick-em contest do I need to fill out the whole thing now or can I just fill out week 1 and wait until week 2 to fill that out?

[idle gorge]

i think you need to do it before the season starts

[hot onyx]

The whole thing or just certain weeks before those matches are played?

[idle gorge]

nah you still can i think

[hot onyx]

Yeah I’m talking about I only have week 1 filled out, so if I don’t fill out the rest does that mean I can one the season starts or will it be unavailable?

[idle gorge]

you prolly need to do the whole season

i haven't done it so idrk

[hot onyx]

Alright I’ll get it filled out, thanks

[vagrant cargo]

Glister doom

[tawdry hamlet]

Iirc you can do them as they go I think someone said but I don't remember that well I just said fuck it and did it all

[plush light]

Dallas get libero as a hitscan

[hot onyx]

SoOn

[sand zenith]

gg covid

[hot onyx]

bg covid using hacks

4 vaccines and the fucker is still winning

Reported

[sand zenith]

he used /gamemode 3

😦

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[hot onyx]

If that actually happens my emotions will be more mixed than a tropical fruit and black tar heroin smoothie

[tropic herald]

Only like the day of really, it says on the site when each one closes

[limber pine]

rip soon

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/SoOn99/status/1382305144893767681

Terence Tarlier (@SoOn99)

Moving on

Read: https://t.co/B65AL6gBDi

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Twitter · Apr 14, 2021, 12:10 PM

soon to valorant...

:(

[karmic grotto]

kevster pls

when will we see his face

[little tusk]

bro

not soon

[sullen berry]

couple names stand out based on twitter activity

libero because

https://twitter.com/Liberot99/status/1381976671675293700?s=20

Libero (@Liberot99)

👋 👋

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Twitter · Apr 13, 2021, 2:24 PM

and Develop recently following Hastr0

an unlikely encounter, but a good one for sure

[worn falcon]

Valorain't

[sullen berry]

Seriously, this daytime routine could work for me

X news breaks from an NA team around 4-8am

Go to work at 11:30am

Twiddle fingers for 7 hours and home by 8pm to catch up on the news and contents uploaded this week

I think it's time I wrap up the content I made before the weekend hits

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1382076205411762178

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Nothing says "beef" like a good old Texas showdown 🐮

@DallasFuel vs @Outlaws

Who takes Round One for #OWL2021?

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Twitter · Apr 13, 2021, 9:00 PM

^ poll above

margins are razor thin

[terse umbra]

tough call cus dallas just dropped XZI so they dont have a hitscan-

[sullen berry]

Poll results

[terse umbra]

dang

[sullen berry]

At least the margins are thin after hearing xzi leaving, so that might be an overreaction

Recency bias do be like that if they played without him in scrims because of it

[terse umbra]

true

[sullen berry]

Until further notice in the next 48 hours, who is dallas playing on their starting 6?

[cedar oasis]

What

[sullen berry]

I have trouble believing its going to be Fielder over rapel

That's the only sub on their team

[cedar oasis]

3 thousand people think Houston can beat Dallas

How

[sullen berry]

3,000 established fans

[cedar oasis]

And why

[kind ridge]

i wanna see it happen lol

[sullen berry]

Well why is ratlanta bottom

Not top 5

[cedar oasis]

Its obvious

I have said it many times

[sullen berry]

Yes you have said ratlanta sucks xd

But I have no idea why they sit that low

[kind ridge]

atlanta good haha

[sullen berry]

See Kanye knows it

[cedar oasis]

They sit that low because gator hawk and massa are all bottom 5 in their roles

Pelican is unproven and the coaching is bad

[sullen berry]

You've never watched O2 Blast?

[kind ridge]

well vancouver exists soooo...

[sullen berry]

Just like Halo deliberately measuring power rankings based off scrim performance?

[cedar oasis]

Unproven to owl

[sullen berry]

Bottom 5 you being safe though, to be fair

Bottom 3 is where its at if you're gpnna double dosn

[cedar oasis]

You can be very good in contenders but be trash in owl like roar or you can be good in owl atm pelican is unproven

It's a challenge to be bottom 3

With the titans and paris

[sullen berry]

See by that logic I can kind of assume who is in your bottom 5 anyways

Assuming there's no East division team in it, your bottom 3 is Atlanta > Paris > Vancouver

[cedar oasis]

No

London

[sullen berry]

Sorry meant London before rat

But the last team then

Is it going to be

Or

[balmy wolf]

prob hou

[cedar oasis]

I see teams like Houston and Toronto beating ratlanta because of the tank and support difference

[balmy wolf]

what

okay

[sullen berry]

I do favour sado and lastro

[cedar oasis]

Sado and Michelle better then gator and hawk anyday

[sullen berry]

SBD factor is pretty high on that roster

[tropic herald]

I’m going to gouge my eyes for you saying Pelican is unproven

[devout path]

Pelican is lame

Valentine is better

[sullen berry]

Nah I can see the clutch potential surging from Pelican

He doesn't have proper to make it so they carry the team on their backs with a big hawk and slow gator

A Fantasy draft with Kai and Pelican really hitting that speed bump lately

At least I wasnt the unlucky lad who selected Xzi

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/YiskaOut/status/1382337877640634368?s=20

Yiska (@YiskaOut)

Gladiators, Outlaws, Mayhem, Reign.

The first four for the Shock look killer and if the trend of a slow season start continues in season 4, I wouldn't be surprised if they missed May Melee.

Twitter · Apr 14, 2021, 2:20 PM

[sullen berry]

Not a hot take, but one they should be vulnerable to lower bracket success

[devout path]

Shock beat all of those

[tropic herald]

The only team there that Shock should beat is outlaws and even then that’s pretty close

[sullen berry]

Quite high on that 4-0 though on the surface

No background knowledge to know how they fare against the mayhem or the glads

[devout path]

Only team to stand a chance is glads

[tropic herald]

Glads Mayhem and Reign are gonna be rough for them

Also people forgetting that Mayhem is a good team

?????

[devout path]

I forget mayhem exists

[sullen berry]

The easiest measuring stick is shock and reign are having a staring contest, Atlanta were born with a twitch in one eye

Atlanta going the distance is so low maybe I might consider it for the upset pick in the first week chaos

[devout path]

I dont think reign can beat shock

Not in this meta at least

Even with a throwing main tank named super

[sullen berry]

Like you say, I can't imagine what they would be like this meta. Shock do not have it together but they are far from an unstable pile of rocks unlike the bottom 3 that come up often

I'd like to see peak London vs San Fran

[devout path]

Boston and glads stand a chance against shock

[sullen berry]

Isn't that changed a little bit with Soon out?

I would think it might unless they have an announcement... Later

[worn falcon]

https://twitter.com/Soembie/status/1382072909070405632

Soe Gschwind (@Soembie)

Why not...¯_(°o)/¯

immediately mutes conversation

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Twitter · Apr 13, 2021, 8:47 PM

ratlanta still too high

[devout path]

Boston worse than defiant??

[worn falcon]

Boston still too high

[sullen berry]

I'm mean I guess if you're not high on WGS Phoenix like every other contenders pickup, maybe

[terse umbra]

atlanta better than florida...?

[sullen berry]

Look Soe is smart

🧠

She doest have to PANDER

[devout path]

Boston should be above Washington

[terse umbra]

bruh moment

[worn falcon]

no, should be under outluls

[sullen berry]

I'm really enjoying these atlanta high moments

[digital cloud]

what is with these people rating outlaws and atlanta

[sullen berry]

Well where you see them, bottom or top 6

[digital cloud]

Atlanta prob mid

[sullen berry]

There is no middle for them

[digital cloud]

houston bottom

[worn falcon]

is GZ really that low now?

[sullen berry]

Splitting them into halves

Guangzhou should be low

[worn falcon]

being under nyxl with full of newbies

Seoul up here makes me thonk

[sullen berry]

You don't understand, it's not even the established talent will save them from scrimbux criticism

[digital cloud]

first game in two days, so maybe we get to see

[sullen berry]

She could be thinking JIHUN = tank on a bad spitfire roster, unknown quanitity of the roster as a whole

[worn falcon]

Chengdu being bottom is sadge

[digital cloud]

I can actually see houston maybe winning since xzi is gone and cree is good

but against teams with crees Houston lose

[sullen berry]

Wonder if Emily will share her Power rankings

[worn falcon]

if dallas get libero for cover xzi

maybe

Emily havent posted except twitch

[sullen berry]

Emily tangerine 🍊 not really gonna go against the grain since she is with the Hunters as a their Chinese correspondent

Yeah I'll entertain the idea when she goes live and gets bored

[tropic coral]

Who do you guys think Is gonna win

[digital cloud]

win what

[tropic coral]

The main tournament

[raw ermine]

may melee

?

[worn falcon]

Chengdu the winners

[limber pine]

The tiers are essentially this:
Top 3: SFS,LAG,WAS
The next four: ATL, FLA, DAL, TOR
The unknown: BOS, HOU, LDN, PAR
Last: VAN

it's consistently what I've seen across pickem entries and talent picks.

[raw ermine]

We need a power ranking amalgamation

[limber pine]

This is the discord pickem so far

by region (obviously)

keeping in mind many of these were put in prior to PHI's adds and Soon leaving

[plush grail]

wait is that winrate?

[raw ermine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/mqtloq/hey_its_jon_spector_of_the_overwatch_league_ask/

^Jon Spector AMA

Mods might wanna put this in #esports-news

epic

[limber pine]

@plush grail That's how often they are picked in that specific spot

so SFS is picked to place 1st in 87% of the entries so far

and so on

[raw ermine]

Whose gonna ask "When do we get Jon Spector, OWL Commissioner?"

[limber pine]

i mean, he might as well be

[plush grail]

assumed it was winrate for the pick ems

saw paris at 28%

got happy

[hot onyx]

Enjoy them while they last because Kai and Pelican can only do so much without a chiropractor

[devout path]

Why is glads on there twice

[plush grail]

why are u rooting for a shit team

[devout path]

I’m not rooting for the titans tf

Why is Chengdu on there twice too

[plush grail]

THE CHENGDU ZONE

[red anvil]

k i just dmed @limber pine to announce it

[devout path]

Valiant 80% pick rate

[limber pine]

god I walk away for 3 minutes and get 5 pings

[red anvil]

your welcome

[limber pine]

@red anvil I sent it out #esports-news

[red anvil]

ty

[limber pine]

do you want a reddit thread too?

[red anvil]

yeah sure

[limber pine]

done and done

[red anvil]

ty ty 👏

[limber pine]

@devout path LAG is twice because they were picked most at that rank

[devout path]

OHHH

[limber pine]

That means teams that don't show up (WAS) aren't picked the most at any given rank

WAS is 18.4% at 2nd, 3rd, and 4th so far

but behind LAG, LAG, and FLA for those places

[devout path]

Who tf were the 20% that didn’t put valiant at the bottom

Wow no one put Boston as number 1

[hot onyx]

They are the ones who can see into the future

[raw ermine]

lol someone put london first

[limber pine]

I mean, it's like 95% bottom 4

yes, we have some joke entries and some that clearly don't follow the league

but those'll be minimized across 300 entries

And I've only done about 1/2 of the entries for standings so far, so it'll change

[devout path]

????

[limber pine]

well, i've actually only done like 40 of the NA standings

[raw ermine]

SFS
LAG
WJ
FLA
DAL
TOR
BOS
ATL
HOU
LDN
PAR
VAN

[limber pine]

so VAN 2.6% is like one entry

[raw ermine]

thats the average

[limber pine]

yeah

[plush grail]

smh slacking spriteguy

[limber pine]

i'm doing the option questions first because the standings don't really need to be done for a while

so...

[devout path]

But like

Still

Mag rookie of the year???

Valentine????????

Pelican???????????

[raw ermine]

SHD
PHI
SEO
NYXL
HZS
GZC
CHD
LAV

[limber pine]

valentine and pelican are in the top 5

[worn falcon]

boston over ratlanta thonk

and houston

[limber pine]

gwangboong got lots of votes too

[plush grail]

what about the nyxl rookies? @limber pine

ahhh nice

im pretty sure i put flora

[limber pine]

some for feather anf flora too

[plush grail]

but any of the nyxl rookies would be a fair pick imo

[devout path]

Muze

[limber pine]

Muze too

[devout path]

How many ppl put not rookies

[plush grail]

lmaooo

probably a lot

[limber pine]

lol that's what I was going to say

[plush grail]

people probably put someone like alarm

[limber pine]

we don't require any knowledge of the league, so we're going to have submissions like that

[plush grail]

also how many mvp votes for ans?

[limber pine]

at least 1

[devout path]

Putting Nero or glister lol

[limber pine]

because I remember seeing it

[plush grail]

i mean

glister is a rookie

london s3 did not exist

[devout path]

Lol

[limber pine]

👀

[plush grail]

lily

name 5 people

who were on london

u cant

[worn falcon]

sbb rookie of the year

[devout path]

Who were on London?

[plush grail]

season 3 london yeah

[limber pine]

glister celyst sanguinar illicit babel

krillin

[worn falcon]

gesture, nus

fissure

[limber pine]

oh nus

[devout path]

Striker rookie of the year?

[plush grail]

celyst lmaooo

[limber pine]

Assassin got a few too

I just don't think he's going to play a lot

[devout path]

I forgot about him

[plush grail]

what about sparkle

[devout path]

How many xzi votes :(

[limber pine]

a few MVPs for sparkle

3 for xzi

but I sent the last reminder out monday; I'm not chasing ppl to keep it updated

[worn falcon]

to think those were the champs

[plush grail]

legit either considered washed

dissapeared

or ur rascal

[limber pine]

I also don't get that ppl are saying LAV will have the most roster changes.

like

[worn falcon]

then 2019 london

it was stacked tbh

[devout path]

Profit

[plush grail]

LAV has no money

for any roster changes

[limber pine]

exactly

[plush grail]

i put la glads

because they're TRASH

[sullen berry]

they might not have the money but

we said the same about justice, didn't we?

[plush grail]

and will need to replace some players for a chance at the title

[worn falcon]

immortal probs gonna sell their slot to a chinese org

to recover their monies

[sullen berry]

and what happened when things went south for them?

[limber pine]

was that actually true about the justice tho

was it them being thrifty or them not having the money

[sullen berry]

i don't know, that's probably where that mentality came from

[tropic herald]

Justice is thrifty

[worn falcon]

LAV org seems really uninterested in OWL

ironically they got a nice fanbase

just to flop

[plush grail]

wdym LAV is popping on social media rn

[devout path]

Have you seen valiants twitter

Popping off

[worn falcon]

is dead

[plush grail]

yes

LAV twitter > titans twitter

[worn falcon]

last tweet was feb 20

lol

[sullen berry]

if you had the opp to make one tweet on the official LAV twitter account, what would you post

[plush grail]

''lmao bye''

[worn falcon]

meanwhile titans https://twitter.com/VancouverTitans/status/1377319942480044033

Vancouver Titans (@VancouverTitans)

.@OverwatchLeague coming in with a 🔥 take today but let's ask the real question. 🤔

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Twitter · Mar 31, 2021, 6:00 PM

[tawdry hamlet]

Iirc I put kaylee for rookie of the year but I might have put pelican I don't remember

[plush grail]

super roty

[devout path]

A normal monkey

[worn falcon]

sad london

[limber pine]

MKL

[plush grail]

why the fuck

did they think buying a team of rookies

was smart

[limber pine]

smart for $$

[tawdry hamlet]

[plush grail]

instead of a shit tons of rookies they could have gotten 7 decent players

[worn falcon]

i mean thats how we got glister

and he is cracked

[tawdry hamlet]

They should have just dumped the non performing koreans and bought upgrades

[plush grail]

i could widow diff glister ez

[tawdry hamlet]

Then they'd at least be projected higher than bottom 4

[worn falcon]

sanguinar wasnt bad

clestyn

sadge

[limber pine]

the team wasn't bad per se

[tawdry hamlet]

Bernar glister highly clestyn sanguinar all aren't actually that bad which is a shame the team flopped

[limber pine]

they were just in the stacked region

[plush grail]

interesting how most of the top teams turn garbage later down the line

[tawdry hamlet]

Even in a stacked region they lost to hunters and took last in apac last season

[plush grail]

tbf

im pretty sure chengdu beat every team except for shangahi

[sullen berry]

it was the only way to bring up the spitfire roster. Jack Etienne hinted at this after their season was over they would make big plans

never implied it would involve promoting their whole EU academy but the seed was sown

[plush grail]

london has had a team of korean rookies and european rookies

next year na rookies?

[sullen berry]

nah buy out houston outlaws

that's where they got blase

[plush grail]

and get a top 2 na flex support crimzo?

[cedar oasis]

Who is better the jehong

[sullen berry]

and first promoted from path to pro collegiate main support joobi?

[plush grail]

me

i can keep my career alive

[limber pine]

how good is Joobi?

[sullen berry]

think back to halo on boston

[plush grail]

lmaooo what a sad comparison jesus

[sullen berry]

who just won in collegiate with maryland

[limber pine]

i mean I blame boston more than I blame Halo

[sullen berry]

so there's nothing I can see that stands out from the crowd, he's just getting the pickup to prove NA Colliegiate isn't a waste of time

like I can see Outlaws w i n a few matches

but that's off the back of whether he can outplay the competition

[tawdry hamlet]

Hard to be a good ms when your igl is chex on mei and your mt is fusions

He also was only there for what 6 months?

[limber pine]

joobi was also in contenders, so there's that

[sullen berry]

if it were better times for homestands, I'd rather bring back Alemao

[limber pine]

i miss alemao

[sullen berry]

i miss saying his name

[worn falcon]

ayyylmao

[sullen berry]

uprising alley mong

ayylmao drops the beat to save fusions from the grav

[plush grail]

@sullen berry why the ''so mad'' at the end of ur name

[sullen berry]

@plush grail this you and your pickems

I'm mad

it's 5am

irl stuff has kept me up all night

and OWL should be starting in less than 48 hours

I haven't completed my upload schedule

[plush grail]

thats not mine lmao

man

stop stressing

[limber pine]

SFS on the losing end of two 3-0's is bold

[plush grail]

just enjoy watching dallas collapse

can we just ban the owner of that pickem from this chat

becuase jesus

[raw ermine]

Vancouver gets 2 3-0s

lmfao

[sullen berry]

not here to defend themselves, not in this server

[limber pine]

who owns that pickem

[plush grail]

ban them from that other server too

probably empathy

[limber pine]

i mean, who owns the group for the discord?

[plush grail]

for this server?

empathy

[sullen berry]

i wouldn't think anyone here is this dumb to submit such an abomination in my servers, but don't bother hunting him down it's going to stroke his ego

[limber pine]

lol

@tropic herald can I announce your pick em group or do you want to keep it small (and only in the pin)?

figured I'd ask before doing it lol

[plush grail]

[digital cloud]

Without xzi I can see it

[sullen berry]

i choose to look away

I had Outlaws 3-1 before I remembered Joobi was their main support not rapel whoops

[plush grail]

rapel the double agent

[sullen berry]

crimzo the OG double agent

[plush grail]

wait wtf yeah

dallas and houston

almost swapped support lines

[sullen berry]

rascal could be a quadruple agent for LA and UK

[plush grail]

what

[sullen berry]

Spitfire

Dallas

wait that's not Gladiators

double agent for the US and UK

listen, it's 5am and I haven't slept

[plush grail]

where tf do u live

[sullen berry]

at your mom's

[trail perch]

I hate that I have to redo these and drop dallas

[plush grail]

okay gzc fanboy

[sullen berry]

shouldn't need to put them up so high in the first place

[trail perch]

I heavy rated dallas

[sullen berry]

an unstable season was never intended, in fairness

but the players aren't having a great time

xzi being inactive (not retired as he says) replaced with two more players could only mean it's getting rough now for the org to hold it together

that's before we even get the players into a server

[plush grail]

tbh some of the pcikups

could make dallas even better than before

[trail perch]

imagine ace and develop

[plush grail]

if they go for 2 hitscan rookies they're still gonna be meh

[balmy wolf]

Boston Uprising have big expectations and won’t live up to them? It’s routine at this point

[plush grail]

if they go big and pick up someone like libero and a hitscan player

actual pog

[quasi hull]

Eh

I want shock to get the 3peat

[sullen berry]

you might be surprised to hear this but

so does an overwhelming majority

i do too, with their top tier tank and supports

[cedar oasis]

But shock is cock

[plush grail]

i want them to win

but i also want shock to just collapse

and players to go to different teams

to keep interesting

[sullen berry]

I don't have a reason for shock to lose their streak

there's more competition underneath that deserve to stand out

it's a good storyline, Nero is the sole western player to compete in APAC/East division in the Overwatch league

there's zero reason to believe the shock would drop with striker best tracer 2020

[plush grail]

sbb best tracer

[cedar oasis]

Yep

[tawdry hamlet]

tracer one trick and a semi competent widow/ashe/cree is all they need

[earnest leaf]

Too bad that would get them railed by any top team

Glister/decay/birdring would all stomp a mid tier widow/ashe/cree

[sullen berry]

see i told you don't underestimate Ratelanta

Watson is going to get flamed

[trail perch]

Valiant above justice

[sullen berry]

I'm waiting to see what it's going to be

just hold on

[trail perch]

[sullen berry]

this a before

[raw ermine]

woahhhhhh

hold the phone

[sullen berry]

let me show you the after screenshot

[raw ermine]

lol

this bot is braindead

jk

jk

[earnest leaf]

Those rankings are based off last season stats

[karmic grotto]

atlanta is going to be the best bottom tier team in the owl

cold/hot take?

[sullen berry]

yeah there's nothing in this video

just going over best damage tanks

[plush grail]

i agree with this fully

[sullen berry]

me too

weird to see the truth on paper

[earnest leaf]

Don't underestimate other team's ability to giga throe and lose to certain teams

[plush grail]

ah yes

the muma tactic

[earnest leaf]

Yes, Viol2t is indeed built different

[karmic grotto]

Bebe > viol2t

just wait

[raw ermine]

I feel like watson could use more data...

but yeah this is pretty good

[sullen berry]

indifferent

i like atlanta standing up

but that's like somebody saying I like GZ as a team if they didn't get that herbalife sponsorship

who could possibly like a team over a brand