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he does not
I noticed q awhile back
Why is that?
Was he born with it or did it happen later on?
emong and flats power ranking is so scuffed
IMO flats should be signed as content creator for shock
imagine believing the scrimbux about atlanta being top tier
but for some reason also ignoring the scrimbux about la valiant beating philly
imagine caring about scrimbux and not rating teams based off the rosters and player's past performances
yeah then the list still makes no sense
I wouldn't be surprised if atlanta is decent during rush
Kai is a thicc cree, pelican a thicc mei
Gator/hawk aren't bad at rein dva
masaa is a solid lucio and iris is a good bapt
but like during rush dallas will also be amazing
Dallas just needs to use fielder
But if they run jecse/rapel they'll get supp gapped by the top teams
tbh do they even need a top tier support line when u have fearless rein, hanbin dva, xzi cree and doha mei?
against support lines like shu/moth or viol2t/fdgod yea
if its rush and they dont run fielder jecse
Bebe Closer support gaps Rapel Jecse
Basically they just need to play fielder
they are legit throwing
and only fielder
i kinda understand playing jecse rapel during that steelseries thing
because they already had the synergy
but if this also starts happening during the regular season
inb4 fielder is benched because of EM nepotism
the fuel cycle of misery will start again
yeah according to
forgot who
bazzo or leakmafia
i get all my overwatch news from a reliable source
lol
I didn't even know one of them said it
Ah yes, the very reliable source of Bazzo
Jecse and Rapel are not good players and will be the reason why Dallas Fuel will underperform this year.
hes right
They also lack a true second hitscan
I’m not saying he’s not right with some takes but you can also just not listen to anything he says and be okay
their dps line is overrated
really wanna know what happens when ashe tracer becomes meta
They will roll over and die
the man with the godlike takes has entered the chat
they sign soon
i mean ashe tracer is being played in APAC some
xzi will be forced on ashe
I say Valiant will beat Philly and suddenly all my takes are bad
dallas did kinda fuck themselves
by just collecting EM players
and not looking at hero pools
Xzi will 100% be the sniper and Doha will be the tracer
Dallas sign a real flex dps challenge
are there any good ex element mystic tracers?
No
I got diffed by Lr1s in a qp game on Ana Dallas should sign me
I once sticked my pulse on a grav and got a 4k i should get signed
i once genji diffed some random plat player called sparkle
tbh that makes me better than the real sparkle
I played with some qp guy called Haksal
I nanoed him and he didnt get a 6k so i knew he was a fake
def not owl level anymore man
but he has a cool name
dalton probably has a better genji now
DALTON
''has a good genji and was russion''
i mean
he is no longer russian
eqo is colombian/israeli
and russian
blocked
compared to all the other flex dps in owl he is average
in owl dumbass
lol libero
fleta is 1
architect lol
fleta, pelican, kevster, valentine, rascal, sms, jakerat
i would say eqo is at the same level as hydration
bro stfu
ur joking right
hydration probably better
their both mid tier
doha, sparkle
i will collect your tears when eqo trashes your favorite team
also better
jokes on you philly gonna flop for most of the year
he loves atlanta
atlanta is the only team he ever talks about
what is that if not love
can someone change his name to atlanta simp?
true
I wish all the Philly fans a very splendid time Bc we all know you’ll need happiness now when it’s fleeting in a little under a week
Maybe not this season
cant wait for the glads, justice, hunters and dragons final
Yeah but last season
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they live?
is junk junkbuck?
yes
forgot coolmatt was still in the org lol
Nothing about houston is well made
oof
this host guy is trying so hard but its very clear that the players have no idea whats going on
to be honest with how the org usually is I am a bit surprised they managed to afford the team at all
most of it is pretty decent production
its not even production issues but i bet the players didnt know this was happening until 2 minutes ago
H
UST
N
that or they are just scrambling due to the season coming up
I think that is probably most likely
they probably knew and it is just hectic due to them playing the first day and whatnot
bro this is like online school
preview summary: team is confident at start of season
that won't last kekw
well no shit ☠️
I believe in the big dick Happy carry
I believe in the Krystal deadlift o7
if this was any other season you would have made the team smh
but now dallas is too stacked 😦
if toronto can channel their inner sex big dick energy lastro will hard carry ez
LMAO
waiting for my man obswinston to make his owl debut, teams be sleeping on them hard
obswinston is literally just the name of one of the spectator camera profiles
yeah, and convenient if a player says something dumb in chat and it needs to be quickly spammed past lmao
OBSBrig for reformed goats meta 2022

What do you think would happen if GOATS became meta again
If it became the thing in esports they would have to get nerfed pretty fast because of the 2/2/2 meta
aztac over lastro
Lastro literally got signed due to aztac struggling iirc lol
We had 222 version of goats in the past
Damn, so that's how it's going to be fit aztac
That custa picture feels so off
ZP/DoA maybe gonna be weird at first
Idk either of those
because the custa pic is a greenscreen
I'm doing my Pick-Em rn and I completely forgot about the Dennis Hawelka Award 
I have no idea who to pick after certain incidents
SBB
what's wrong with the background at the virtual grand finals
It just looks so wrong
u think that looks wrong
you know that's something I can agree with
while reinforce has a dunce hat and uber has a flipflop phone
what exactly is wrong
What’s wrong with those tho
all of the other pics are like professional pics
and u have dead inside reinforce with the dunce hat
and mr flipflop
3 days doesn't sound correct but sure
Still Tuesday here
Matches don't start until Friday?
there
Jake not caster anymore?
player
Dababy
5th dps for Houston Outlaws. He really didn't expect to bring back his old Jersey number after retiring it last year
Rights I think I rmb now
3 days
Runaway is getting destroyed lmao
Heesang is no proper though on tracer
doesn't need to be with runaway flopping over and dying like this though lmaoo
I'm just glad Ado has got a win this group stage
the score doesn't show it
but his performance should have improved a lot more being on spark
heesang is the only name I actually recognize on talon atm unless someone changed their name lmao
well it is a couple of EM pickups on Talon
he don't quit
and his work ethic and drive is fine
it's just... execution? scrimbucks? Something is making him high value and he probably gets a lot of interest because of his OWL experience on three different teams
all with mixed rosters
to varying degrees of either misfortune or just bad performances
I think owl experience makes a lot of meh players find teams, like finnsi or gravy or apply type of thing but idk
hes like 2-60 in OWL
forever an underdog
pretty bad if you ask me
now if ado was able to somehow stay or play as well as dding
he might have had his first success in a stage playoff if he didn't end up on Justice instead
he wouldnt have played on shanghai
not for another season when they signed dding cover what he had but better
a proper doom, a pharah that would make jinmu cry
a c9
oh wait that was youngjin

let's go BM

this defense is looking aite
MN3 has entered the chat
CSH
If you’re referring to ChoiSehwan he’s already on the Charge
And last time I checked, it would be pretty difficult to buy out a player on an existing team without giving up one of your own
depending on the matchup
ranked tracer is like pulling out your B-team when you don't have enough players to warrant subbing an entire player
@gray crane No begging/asking for accounts
blessed mik
milk
Based mik
cringe milk

Guys stop talking about milk I am lactose intolerant
3 days until owl wtf
HOLY SMOKES 3 days
Is this a power ranking of all players?
Man, top 4 just the Shock
Well if IBM Watson ™️ says it
Sorta forgetting the Comedy King there
funnyastro isnt the shock?
Viol2t OP pls nerf
true
already said it before but justice #2 na
libero rascal
could be
could be hello, could be goodbye
sadge
inb4 libero to valorant
nah
ty bb
mad?
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uh oh
he might return, they say
wtf
LIBERO TO DALLAS????
ayoo wtff
Mer1t 
shittt
WHAT
this might be good
With heavy hearts, we are saddened to announce @Xzi_ow’s retirement for this season. However, player health will always be our top priority.
We will be rooting for him every single day and wish him the best in his treatments and future.
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for them long term
Pain
um
get well xzi
that's a fucking disaster for dallas
but yeah, hope he's alright
Stellar I guess
develop
liberoOoooo
wait what
how will dallas even have a chance losing their hitscan
innovation for the tracer
3 days before season starts
dallas are absolutely fucked in the short-term
3 days
i know there's been speculation that this was gonna happen but out of all their DPS Xzi was the one they could afford to lose the least by far
quick
Kilo although?
hopefully xzi gets better by next season
shuffle power rankings
who could replace xzi
time to change power rankings lol
avillos?
NENE
spera?
what good hitscan players are there
If they got Any two of Kilo/Mer1t/Innovation they’d be sitting pretty
Well
LiBeRo
The Dallas cycle of misery continues I see
the cycle accelerates to an alarming speed
Why did he retire?
Oh
what about Babel?
My mind automatically goes to crystal but I’m not going to go there
Babel was good last year.
Do ya think Dallas might try and get diya?
diya omg
at least dallas should have someone who plays tracer now
Sucks I had Xzi on 2 fantasy rosters sadge
no i think xzi is retiring for the rest of the year
fuck my fantasy rosters
heesang and develop?
Heesang's 15
Sadge
Develop?
Or 16 now maybe
Maybe Mer1t?
diya??????
i have dallas players noooo
Mer1t is pretty good
I think they should grab Babel for snipers tbh. I rate him.
I dont rate babel at all
the Dallas cycle of misery starts early this year lol
There’s always soon on 400 ping ya know
He got diffed by the entirety of APAC last year
also sad to see xzi gone of course
babel has been okay in contenders
Dallas does have a reletively high budget right?
they got most of em off of paris
London looked like the exact same team with Babel in compared to Glister in. I'm not saying Babel's that good, but he's way better than people think.
no way they get fleta lol
I agree ☝️
at that point they pay other teams to purposfly lose
Fucking fielder hitscan plz
I hate that that's not even unreasonable. Like, that isn't even that unlikely.
he hated being on dallas before
Its prob very unlikely
That was clashes with coaching apparently, though.
Decay has an entire team built around him and a 3 year contract
they already were probably paying him high
They where prob paying him like 300k on dallas
libero nenne would be good pickups for dallas
because that was his contract on glads
Timou is out there
why would decay and fleta leave their team
ok i fixed my fantasy teams
Libero has a tracer i think
yeah, I suppose
really
+existing synergy
Nenne is in NA rn
They are all Korean
why is nenne still in NA
resign effect??
idk but he is
ye, but what decent korean hitscan is available rn
Develop
Sign pine
develop not 18 right
Pine omegalul
fielder hitscan
im crying for dallas fans now
Pull a kariv
he is according to the site
I AM A DALLAS FAN
fuck it just mei doom
THIS IS A ME PROBLEM
f
less competition for boston to be top 5 na tho
fuck it just force hackfist
imagine having hope for dallas
forced hackfist
I mean that might be viable
gigachad
Just run rein zarya doom sombra ana Lucio for a whole season
hmm, maybe they could try to get a loan or something?
can teams do that?
like have shockwave on loan
or something like that
Pretty sure brens lft right now
maybe they trade fielder for diem?
Like have Jerry on loan
They might be able to grab diem actually
teams can have two-ways with ordinary Contenders teams this year
That might be an option
nvm its all korean
because Shanghai doesnt really need him
Shanghai really wants to hold on to diem I think
Not enough to extend his contract
They can literally run lip or fleta
just run winston dva rush with reaper sombra
On any hitscan
Yeah but hackfist...
what if dallas manages to get dalton???
dink dink dinkety dink
Dinkzr???
lmao pine? say goodbye to your fans
Pine would be amazing though
???
where has pine been
Pine is lft, so is fl0w3r for that mater
ok but when is boston picking up bumper
don't think pine has a contenders team though
how desperete do you have to be to get him
Pine fl0w3r would be a sick duo if it was 2018
maybe open division
meko is not hotba
*picks up Calvin
Why
retirement**
imagine being fearless
a top 3 tank
and u get hotba
as ur tank duo
Lmao
they should pick up bumper and put him on hitscan
bumper is a flex dps, not hitscan
if dallas wants only korean they are gonna have a bunch of trouble getting someone
true
JUST SIGN MER1T
trade for super and put sparkle on hitscsn
GUYS I HAVE A SOLUTION JUST SIGN STICH
isn't mer1t too young
pretty easy solution if u ask me
super can play genji
then yeah get mer1t lol
Sigma?
tracer one trick
He has a Cree at least
they need a tracer player not a sigma player
It ain't amazing
Sign avrl as a player
clearly they should pick up jake
Steal Corey from valorant
sign the tracer voice actor
Corey on a successful team rn lol
They should get happy
plus he stated he doesn't miss ow
Lmao
I want him back though
Sign saya
he isn't extremely good in val
pick up xzi 😳
he's dead
babybay better than him in val lmao
Then sign spyder
yoo good call
Babybay has said that Corey is better than him
fuck it saya
fuck it ans
Saya got dropped
seagull back to dallas
Isn’t ans playing valorant
ye
DOES DALLAS STILL WIN THE FIRST GAME
yeah
LOL I DONT FUCKIN KNOW ANYMORE
he is stuck on t1 with saya lol
also ans is trash in valorant rn
has no experience with tact shooters
why did this have to happen so close to the end of the season
Sign rascal lmao
i mean sparkle, doha, fearless, hanbin, fielder, jecse rapel still fuck the outlaws tbf
Libero to dallas
and the team he is on is failing so I doubt the coaching he gets will be sufficient

houston wins
well dallas is better on paper
and there goes my respect for u
but as we can clearly see, the cycle of dallas misery has begun
never had any
also, outlaws actually have a cree
but its -1 now
ok
ohhh it's Xzi's back problems from last year again apparently btw
i already have said i think boston could potentially be top 3 na
whats the row-leaderboard password?
didnt that already lose respect
Jerry > Striker
just get mer1t
how
korean, hitscan, no self worth probably due to being a contenders player
perfect for dallas
click on his name and then on may melee
okay wait got it
There was this guy named Parrot who was popping off in my plat games, Dallas should give him a solid look
you play in Korea?
some actual omegalul takes
Yeah totally
ayo wtf lmaoo
I vpn in
??????
give flow3r another chance he was the original cracked widow
whats that
once I lock
flow3r washed
no fucking way
once I lock I cant change it anymore right
xzi retired?
top 5 teams power rankings
u can change
till the day of the game
cool
Sign pistol?
@next mesa
XZI RETIREDDDDDDDDdd
yeah, xzi has health problems
oh
of some kind
understandable
can't read his twitlonger
dallas cycle
remember guys, people were thinking picking up em would make dallas good
can i really say dallas beats houston day 1 now
Any hitscan in NA who is available in short term
I google translated
no new info
basically he will focus on getting back
not giving up on owl yet
he still can
axxiom was 2 years in boston
xzi is still xzi
PINE TIME
if u dont believe in pine
should i make boston beat glads week 2 😳
yea
boston simp stop
If my health recovers, I can return to the league at any time. It's not 100% retirement ...
even if youre a fan thats bad
never
imagine supporting a team
couldent be me
that only manages like 2 wins in 1 year
what about atlanta
I still support Houston
Despite all odds against them
season 1 boston plz
I just want a competitive league
Unless ur in APAC
In that case bring the issues on
apac will be sorta competitive
Souel can roll
except valiant
apac is way more competitive
I know
boston will destroy everyone in na
APAC is not going to be as fun to watch IMO
when paris 3-0's boston i'll dm u to collect ur tears
I’m more interested in NA teams like Washington
that wont happen
if that happens
APAC will the the best where else can you see a team play really well one week then forget how to play overwatch the second week
i give up on boston forever
valiant beat seoul
possible
u never know
actually toyou on the roster I see fixing a lot of inconsistency im not gonna lie
also halo got his poewr rankings
But changoon
translation btw
- scrimbux
gives me more confidence
thats my pr
Philly with western player 4th?
changoon
except charge over spark
like I think
a lot of people was upset the ygot rid of wizardhyeong
but too many heads in the same room can be a problem
philly is underestimating how much hotba will ruin them
I didn’t actually think changoon was that bad
maybe he was the one that said "aie we should force double bubble into double shield and let gesture feed his ass off for 3 straight maps lol"
yeah I mean he got the playoff meta right
and seoul was actually a lot better than shock at double sniper
gesture was just like i did my mandatory play well for a few maps now i feel like losing
whats the leaderboard called
changgoon was best at adapting to new metas but once the meta stagnated seoul didnt look as good
nvm
yah but no one knew the optimal composition until seoul
no
yes
ew
tf
just wait smh
no
whats a few more
@devout path this your team???
no thats fake team
they should resign crusty
crusty can make this boston team top 3 ngl
crusty could make almost any team top 5 tbh
crusty overrated
resign crust and striker
and get smurf violet and fdgod
and sign decay and carpe
then the team will be top 3
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sick
Kool
Fuck I didn't think the fuel cycle of misery would happen this way
idk im just hoping he doesnt retire
i think boston should just sign literally everyone from dragons shock seoul and glads
well if boston has all of those players how can anyone stand a chance
Maybe at a stretch mayhem?
bruh no one would stand a chance if hypothetically the top 4 teams merged into 1 team
Half is
the weak link
in team cc
imo idk
just give crusty the best players and they will win, imagine that
Honestly from what I’ve seen I agree
Not to say that he’s a shit player, just that he’s not particularly top tier material like the rest of his team
Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if the entire team cc roster got promoted to owl like BH except Half is the new Dannedd
True
last year's team cc is better than this year's
Well that kind of goes without saying
Although this year T1 > last year T1 imo
Honestly shocked that Innovation hasn’t found a team this season, the man is cracked
one of the best tracers in t2 for a whilee
I love this
360 sleep lol
i feel like glads tank line is a tiny bit overrated
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I can see the LAG tank line not being up to to the top of the league
space does get overrated but he's consistent when his mental isn't in pieces
he's consistent
idk what it is
that just makes him worse than hanbin, void, choi, etc
not korean
what can I say
dont have the genes
I think muze will perform decently well with the consistency of space and the shu moth backline
also yeah space isn't korean so they'll lose
choi back to back
void on dragons
hanbin summer showdown + gauntlet
space has
world cup
Would you guys rate Space as a top 5 ot?
Void, Fury, Choi, Hanbin all are easily better
so if you find one other non-space off tank that is better
maybe crong
then no
really overrated imo
Toyou is so good
seoul lets go
I believe
and someone should call the poliec if lige gets benche
d
anyways
Unlike the rest of the team 
avast is overrating defiant
I mean
only 12 teams in NA
so yeah top 10 team
top 10 overall?
no
reign beats mayhem over scrimbucks only
Reign is 15th
Scrimbux are inconsistent
There is a slight dps diff on the Reign but there is a heavy tank and support diff for Mayhem
I am aware of a few, however, I won't report until I have confirmation of Xzi's replacement.
With Dallas's past (not a dig), I'm not down to possibly stop someone getting an opportunity https://t.co/N4mlY1Cz5d
what is that 2nd part of the tweet talking about??
Apparently some teams cancelled signings because of leaks or smth like that
why tf
would a team do that??
like if u need a tracer player and ur talking to sbb
why would that getting leaked stop u from picking up sbb
dallas has done that
and people were shitting on halo like
omg u shouldnt have reported
sure
like ok if getting leaked would stop u ur just shit sorry
Mate dps aside where do you rate Ratlanta?
5th na
Above Dallas or Florida?
behind glads shock justice mayhem
above dallas for sure
id put them over mayhem aswell honestly
”for sure”
its time to trigger someone
I am aware of a few, however, I won't report until I have confirmation of Xzi's replacement.
With Dallas's past (not a dig), I'm not down to possibly stop someone getting an opportunity https://t.co/N4mlY1Cz5d
Dallas just lost one of their best players
so
it's fair to rate them lower now
Idk of any talent they can pick up that is as good, or better than xzi
Dallas sign MN3 and fill that ashe/tracer sized hole in their gut
they can sign me
ez clap
Mate there’s only so much heavy lifting Kai and Pelican can do before their backs give out
i can not get used to kai
even if the team was dogshit
the dps line would make them middle of the pack
but the rest is good
and you will learn that
Did you watch them last season?

Ok did you watch any non Reign games?
Then with all due respect I’m not trying to start an argument I’m just trying to see from your POV
Because imo they have a top 5 dps line but a bottom 7 tank and support line
kai is good but pelican is also unproven
what makes them 5th in na and like 8th overall
eventhough i thnik the rest is underrated
but i can see why people have issues
There’s a difference between being underrated and other players simply being better
tf is that argument lmao
I’d rather have Hadi and Molf1g than Gator Hawk and idk how hot that take is
Because of Gator Hawk performance last season and lately being underwhelming
And Hadi Molf1g looking pretty sweet in contenders and the SteelSeries cup
they werent as bad as you think imo
yeah number 2 in the most stacked gauntlet is worse than the contenders eu winners
my bad
Hadi Molf1g are improving while imo Gator Hawk have fallen off hard compared to their Academy performances
true
lol
inbefore hadi and molf1g get worse cause they wont win much
pee brain mentality
its just another level
they win = they improve is a weird take
In before Gator and Hawk retire next season after their best performance is mediocre at the ss
so if you lose you get worse
Atlanta have one of the worst support lines in NA imo
Possibly one of the worst in the league as well
Sad to hear @xzi_ow is retiring. Glad he is prioritizing his health above all. Now @DallasFuel do the right thing and sign @Develop_ow. Hidden gem. https://t.co/Jo2Jc7hQXr
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develop...
well london tankline has to retire first before that happens
you actually just see: team loses -> players i dont know are bad
gator and hawk are bad
the only reason they werent bottom 5 last season was because of roar and beast
why werent they bottom 5 then
supports bottom 5 tanks bottom 5 dps bottom 5
like you have actually no reasoning
the reason the tank line wasent bottom 5 last season was because of roar and beast
cause 2 players


