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next mesa
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12-12 baby

tropic herald
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12-12 is not their record

next mesa
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if only tobi stayed

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?

devout path
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The two to the right are so divided by New York

tropic herald
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Yeah they ended the season with those numbers but the regular season record was not good for Seoul

next mesa
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regular season

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12-12

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if you count playoffs its better

devout path
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Interesting how people think seoul will do better than philly

tropic herald
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OTD for Seoul against Philly

raw ermine
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lemme average these out
1 Shanghai
2 Seoul
3 philly
4/5 NYXL/Hunters tied
6 spark
7 charge
8 valiant

next mesa
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pretty accurate

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philly on high ping would be bad

tropic herald
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It’s a mess but basically Shanghai good Valiant bad

devout path
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Nyxl has a chance to be #2

burnt trout
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Seoul will probably do better than philly just based off of team chemistry I think

devout path
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If philly can visa issues probs #2

next mesa
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I dont even think philly #2 if visa issues

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seoul baby lets go

tropic herald
next mesa
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SURE CRUSTY SURE

digital cloud
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he would know though

tawdry hamlet
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ok I am awake now I fell asleep at like 11am lmaoo

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but wtf man

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fucking hotba

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rip philly

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rip clestyn and meko

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such a fat downgrade from poko which is an even bigger downgrade from fury lmao

digital cloud
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I would not want to be a philly fan rn

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then again I am a houston fan and we are always in this kind of situation

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now I just kinda feel depressed

balmy wolf
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Boston >

next mesa
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???

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Ah yes Boston is in apac

lean glacier
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I had a friend who played on Boston uprising ...

trail perch
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Who?

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Dont say DK

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Or Moufin

tawdry hamlet
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I guess Halo!

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because he is the most ordinary dood of all the boston players

plush grail
sullen berry
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@tropic herald yup! Just catching up now

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I kinda had to stop at their analysis of Guangzhou. Every other team they've ranked relatively close to each other but Volamel because that's exactly what he'd say

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And what is there really to rank after top 3? Theyre too close and guangzhou plays gatekeeper in the middle again

tawdry hamlet
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just fuckin sucks for philly man

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if they had been able to keep fury they would be my number 1 in power rankings rn but they couldn't sadly

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imagine mano fury rascal carpe alarm astro

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fucking cracked

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instead they run mano hotba/poko ping carpe shockwave on ping and alarm astro on ping

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rip season

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honestly I would have been fine with no rascal or no shockwave if they kept fury

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he was just too valuable to let go imo

sullen berry
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Would it be inexcusable then

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If I just start my power ranking over from January

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Bump valiant up one rank

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And push a couple teams down from expectation

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I can't even remember how I felt about fusion but it probably holds up even now

idle gorge
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watching contenders australia rn, but i didn't expect dva to be played

idle gorge
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4giver are getting rolled

sullen berry
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literally in the name man

idle gorge
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This week is echo and brig skin if you watch right

sullen berry
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4giver came from a chinese saying that very loosely translates to "simp 4 [contenders]"

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yup!

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brig first

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then echo for 30 hours (?)

idle gorge
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I thought it was echo 7 brig 14

hot onyx
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Guys close your eyes and imagine

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That NineK turns Hotba back into Godba

plush grail
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not happening

hot onyx
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Hotba plays on a team with much better coaching than pre-arachne Charge and IMT Excelsior and unleashes this surge of talent that he has been hiding for his entire career

plush grail
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also fusion could have picked up meko

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instead of hotba

hot onyx
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Yeah /UJ I would’ve loved Meko

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I think they didn’t pick up Clestyn because he’s barely played 3 contenders games to prove himself at an owl level again

plush grail
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could also not have meshed with the rest of the team that well

hot onyx
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It would be the equivalent of picking up Fearless before Team CC won a tournament

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True true

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Also wtf happened to fusion winning the bidding war for gaebullsi?

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Is gbs still on uprising academy?

raw ermine
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yes

raw ermine
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Adam's gone full circle

next mesa
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Lolll

raw ermine
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now he has a couple of KR contenders players

sullen berry
hot onyx
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Indeed

buoyant coyote
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Wait

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Maybe not

plush grail
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Idk about qoq

raw ermine
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qoq used to be on T1

next mesa
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QoQ was doodoo on spark

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Okay

trail perch
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He was better than Sasin

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and his sigma wasnt bad at all

hot onyx
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Mans boutta be benched for non winston or roadhog metas

worn falcon
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gesture is a chad on winston tho

sharp cedar
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sheeeeeeeeeeeesh

tropic herald
raw ermine
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what does this mean?

digital cloud
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People in the comments saying it’s fissure

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I hope not

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That would just mean Houston couldn’t pick up a decent mt again

vagrant cargo
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Kevster face reveal

digital cloud
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Oh yeah

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That makes sense lol

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Kinda hype now ngl

raw ermine
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we haven't seen kev's face yet?

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at all?

limber pine
raw ermine
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fair...

vagrant cargo
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No

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I know some eu pros know his face

next mesa
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cmonnnn

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I bet he is very handsome

digital cloud
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they jebaited me

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watch Kevster be like the world's best female player or something and glads want to surprise us or Kevster wants to avoid harassment because of it or something

balmy wolf
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OH MY HELLO RIO

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😳

digital cloud
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the owl teams do know how to take pictures don't they

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which makes the chipsa picture that much greater to me

balmy wolf
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i'm convinced he did it on purpose

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it's the least flattering photo i've ever seen

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lmfao

limber pine
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It's probably low on the priority list

digital cloud
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what is

limber pine
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new pictures

digital cloud
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I just figured philly thought it would be funny

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which it was

tawdry hamlet
plush light
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Kruise to London

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Or Paris

balmy wolf
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superich to London

next mesa
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please no

raw ermine
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fissure back to vancouver

balmy wolf
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superich to vancouver

digital cloud
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fissure would not touch vancouver with a 10 meter pole at this point

little tusk
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I'm simping for kevster

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regardless if he's guy or girl

next mesa
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lol imagine telling one of the best main tanks in the league nah actually lemme cop that shredlock

trail perch
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I mean i think fissure would be the best MT if he continued to play

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Like he was prob number 1 in s1

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s2 he was rly rly good, but internal issues

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and s3 he looked great

limber pine
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Tobi it is

balmy wolf
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huh

next mesa
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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😭

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TOBI

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WHY DID YOU HAVE TO LEAVE ME

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FUCK

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WHY

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FUCK

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😭 😭

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I was hoping seoul to sign him back mid season or some shitt

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😭

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😭 😭 😭

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im so sad

raw ermine
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YES

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YES

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I FUCKING WAS HOPING

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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EPIC PICKUP

next mesa
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:(((((((

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but also really happy for him

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in the league

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good shit

limber pine
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PHI play SEO, LAV, HZS, and CDH for the Melee

raw ermine
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they could 4-0 that

cedar oasis
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I mean they already have astro

limber pine
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yeah they should be at worst 3-1

next mesa
limber pine
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bro where you been? astro/eqo/poko in visa hell

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hence tobi/rascal/hotba

next mesa
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3-1

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Seoul win

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lets go

cedar oasis
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Nah they still got astro

limber pine
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now you're just trolling

digital cloud
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philly did get tobi then

hot onyx
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I FUCKING CALLED IT

digital cloud
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the people here are surprisingly accurate with guessing these things

cedar oasis
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I would take 250 ping poko over hotba

limber pine
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tbf phi didn't really have a lot of options

trail perch
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On OT?

digital cloud
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well yeah I suppose

limber pine
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no MS

trail perch
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Ohhhh

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yeah

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Unique ig

hot onyx
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Unique too obvious

next mesa
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Tobi > Unique

hot onyx
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If fusion were interested in T1 players this year they would’ve signed clestyn

next mesa
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the only ms ill take over tobi is ljg and moth lol

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Tobi simp ✊

hot onyx
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Still a downgrade over Astro for everything but mercy

limber pine
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with not celstyn and now no Unique, I'm thinking they had to have a specific reason not to promote them

next mesa
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I think he has a better brig

hot onyx
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But for a temp I’ll happily take him with open arms

next mesa
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too

hot onyx
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That’s subjective

vagrant cargo
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Tobi mercy isnt that good

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His brig is a upgrade tho

limber pine
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if APAC is double-bubble it'll be brig/ana

hot onyx
balmy wolf
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philly with the 2 main supports without a single Mercy between them. tag me in, I got a sick mercy.

limber pine
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Astro's wasn't terrible?

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I truthfully don't remember it though

balmy wolf
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astro's was really bad

limber pine
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time for stats

next mesa
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I think tobi's mercy is nice compared to astro at least

raw ermine
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astro was a pretty good mercy, I remember

trail perch
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Astro was eh

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Tobi was def better

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Tobi looked great on mercy in final 4

hot onyx
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Tobi mercy is better than his lucio imo

next mesa
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His bap is also better than astro

limber pine
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Mercy stats on OWL.com are generally terrible

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to determine a good mercy

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Tobi's Mercy healing stats were abysmal for some reason

cedar oasis
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Moth trash mercy smh

hot onyx
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Carcar and Halo robbed of a spot

cedar oasis
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Yoo

next mesa
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because you're supposed to be damage boosting

cedar oasis
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Where is anamo

next mesa
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too much heals ur throwing

hot onyx
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Nah mate idk what you’re on about

limber pine
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I wish the stats tracked damage boosted and off. assists

hot onyx
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The solo kills and final blows are where the money is at

limber pine
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lol

worn falcon
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tobi hotba

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philly mid tier team

mortal abyss
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Holy shit

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Mercy stats don’t mean much apart from deaths

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Tobis mercy won’t mean much since it’s rush meta for the first 1/4 of the season

limber pine
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correct

next mesa
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I mean its kinda sad

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this just means that astro will be irrelevant in a few seasons

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the tobi succ curse

raw ermine
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trueeee

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lol

mortal abyss
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Lol

tawdry hamlet
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Forgot soon was released OOOOOAAAAAAA

mortal abyss
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Is tobi on a temporary contract as well?

limber pine
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not sure how PHI is handling hotba/tobi

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they seem like "real" deals, only because they didn't say anything otherwise

mortal abyss
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Hotba is on a temporary contract

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Il check tobi now

limber pine
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oh I didn't see that

mortal abyss
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Oh wait

hot onyx
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They’ve both been in free agency for like 4-5 months now so they will have been offered the absolute minimum payment since it’s a choice of either accepting that payment or being out of a career

mortal abyss
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Yeah

hot onyx
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Because they’ll be desperate

mortal abyss
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But from fusions announcement it seems that they are just placeholders until astro and poko get to kr

limber pine
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yeah but idk if that means they are on 30day contracts

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or whatever it is

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!!owl2021

worn falcon
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probs they hoping at the end of the tournie they could retrieve them

next mesa
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Jecse? Slime? Gambler?

raw ermine
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all fell to the beast that is

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tobi

worn falcon
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tobi/alarm

mortal abyss
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Jecse and slime are both on teams rn

raw ermine
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also alarm guy, change you're name to "tobi alarm best support line"

worn falcon
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and they have a week to work in composition and synergy

mortal abyss
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No

raw ermine
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I guess that's not your name now

worn falcon
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sweet baby jesus

raw ermine
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but whatever

worn falcon
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poor mano

mortal abyss
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I’ll change it to alarm/astro best support line once astro gets to kr

balmy wolf
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All hail the 2-0 LA Valiant

mortal abyss
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Apparently halo knew about the signing (of Hotba) for a while

next mesa
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moth can be at the same team as tobi and still somehow get benched

mortal abyss
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Moth will be consumed

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Just like slime was

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Imagine telling someone in 2020 that the fusion roster would be carpe rascal mano Hotba tobi alarm

hot onyx
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Still top 3 imo

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In apac at least

worn falcon
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mid tier apac

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like nyxl

mortal abyss
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Depends on how well they mesh tbh

next mesa
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so he meant tobi

devout path
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Tobi back WOOOOOOOOOO

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Anamo never playing again

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Fuck anamo

next mesa
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not on seoul though

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:(

hot onyx
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Still has a team though

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OG Lunatic-Hai would be dead if it wasn’t for this pick up

worn falcon
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ryujehongsexy is dead

ivory mason
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philly atleast picked some decent players

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i know rascal can play almost anything but is he a decent hitscan?

worn falcon
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for hitscan they use carpe

ivory mason
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what if they have a meta like last year

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ash and tracer

worn falcon
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carpe ashe, rascal tracer

ivory mason
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yea thats what i meant, atleast they will be able to hold their own against some team till shockwave comes back

worn falcon
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their dps line isnt bad

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the decents ones are the tank and support

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like mano is solid, but hotba isnt very solid

ivory mason
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their supports are amazing if astro and alarm both play

worn falcon
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same as alarm and Tobi

ivory mason
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hotba was decent in the first season of ow

worn falcon
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first season

hot onyx
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Hotba good on fusion

worn falcon
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where nyxl was stomping

hot onyx
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Hotba no good on fusion

worn falcon
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and seoul

ivory mason
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also didnt hotba and mano played last year together?

worn falcon
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and london champs

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and shock mediocre

ivory mason
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shock didnt have crusty back then

worn falcon
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thats why i said mediocre

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from season 1 to season 4 everything has changed a lot

ivory mason
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true

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idk why they didnt get another off tank when fury left

hot onyx
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Faith in Poko starting probably

worn falcon
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if anything we can compare is with the previous season, more or less

ivory mason
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they should have went for jjanu if jjanu was available

worn falcon
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poko was solid, like b tier

ivory mason
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last year nyxl was horid

worn falcon
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jjanu is enjoying apex

ivory mason
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damn jjanu was a very good tank

worn falcon
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streamer now

ivory mason
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the more underrated part of the playoff washington

hot onyx
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Ark would like a word with you

ivory mason
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true but everyone was underrated in that team because decay was the one getting all the praise

hot onyx
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Yeah but without decay and if they had some mid tier like qoq for example on justice, jjanu would’ve been the only stand out player imo

craggy sandal
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if they had qoq jjanu would have been benched

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wait nvm

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im dumb

trail perch
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If they had QOQ they could have ran hog sig

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and prob made it to final 4

hot onyx
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Make it to the final 4 over fusion or shock?

craggy sandal
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probably fusion

hot onyx
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I want what you’re smoking

trail perch
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Yeah prob fusion

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If they ran the ttuba hanzo

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and the stitch ashe or widow

craggy sandal
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decay would have been on hitscan

hot onyx
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Yeah because ttuba stitch > ivy carpe

mortal abyss
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God I remember ivy’s hanzo that match

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That was so good to watc

hot onyx
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I was absolutely losing it over that mans talent

hot onyx
craggy sandal
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then it would be a lot closer but i would say justice still take it since they would know the comp better

blissful mountain
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Florida should beat surge right?

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Im assuming

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Oh shit wrong esports server lol

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My bad

hot onyx
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Dw about it

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And fusion seemed to have worked it out by the playoff period

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And who’s to say that they would’ve even made it that far without the decay carry?

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They might’ve taken a fat L against Eternal or Mayhem in the loser brackets

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Or even Valiant

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Fusion hard diffed Justice on dps and support and equalised them in tank when they had decay

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So other than a slight composition advantage, idk the logic behind Justice being better than Fusion if they had QoQ on sigma

trail perch
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decay dps diffing everyone else

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and that they would practice the comp when everyone else was prepping sombra reaper dive

raw ermine
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Mano Hotba Alarm Tobi Rascal Carpe

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cracked

mortal abyss
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Would be more cracked with their Eu players

cedar oasis
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nah

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how you gonna say cracked with hotba in their

burnt trout
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Hotba is clearly their best player

cedar oasis
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mano is just crying in the corner mutering to himself i didnt need peel anyway

plush grail
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This pretty much confirms fusion is gonna drop the EU guys

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Where do y'all see them going?

next mesa
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why would they drop the EU guys

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are they gonna pull a boston

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or a valiant

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they cant after saying we are gonna keep them on the team

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its like PR suicide

cedar oasis
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yea drop astro

next mesa
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they say that and then drop? suicide

plush grail
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ah yeah forgot about that

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has owl ever had a loan system

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they could maybe loan the EU guys to a team

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until they can get to korea

next mesa
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perhaps perhaps

buoyant coyote
worn falcon
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with alarm and astro, yes

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alarm and tobi...debatable

next mesa
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id take izayaki ljg, viol2t fdgod and shu moth over alarm astro im not gonna lie

buoyant coyote
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Wait

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New support line?

next mesa
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they signed tobi

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astro in visa hell

buoyant coyote
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Oh

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Rip

worn falcon
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astro, eqo, poko in visa hell

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and chipsa brother

buoyant coyote
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Dang

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Didn’t know

worn falcon
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so they hired hotba and tobi to cover

digital cloud
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They probably intend to pick them back up when they can

buoyant coyote
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Yeah

worn falcon
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imagine picking hotba instead mek0

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pepehands

buoyant coyote
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What happened to QoQ

cedar oasis
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bad

buoyant coyote
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Ahhhhh

worn falcon
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no news from qoq

buoyant coyote
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He just disappeared

worn falcon
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since november

buoyant coyote
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Ok

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Who are your bottom 5 teams?

cedar oasis
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ratlanta

buoyant coyote
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I see

worn falcon
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boston

buoyant coyote
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Ooh

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Spicy

worn falcon
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after firing soooooooooooooooooon

next mesa
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scrimbucks say their stonks are pretty high

buoyant coyote
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Yeah

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Can’t always trust scrims

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But sometimes it pays off

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Top 5 teams?

mortal abyss
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Shock shanghai justice glads fusion ( with an asterisk)

buoyant coyote
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Cool

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Pretty much the same I just put Dallas at 5

worn falcon
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i dont know if theyre putting glads too high

buoyant coyote
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I’m a Dallas fan

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I’m overrating them

mortal abyss
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Fair enough

buoyant coyote
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They should end up like 9-6 but I have high hopes

worn falcon
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ah yes, dallas ol'cycle of misery

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and hasn't started yet

buoyant coyote
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Yep

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Sadge

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Higher hopes for this season, but it feels like it is still possible

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They’re pretty much the Paris eternal form last year

worn falcon
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i would put the Fusion logo here

digital cloud
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Can’t bench tobi if you don’t have tobi MercyMhm

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Cycle broken

next mesa
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tobi is never benched

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wasnt it ryujehong benched and then puts him on main tank

little tusk
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wait did philly sign tobi??

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thats gud right?

digital cloud
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According to some

next mesa
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more like

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according to their official twitter

digital cloud
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No I was talking about the “thats good right”

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Clearly he was signed

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Reading comprehension levy

next mesa
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shut

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oh yes

balmy wolf
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how official is the official twitter anyway tho rly

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y'know?

next mesa
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Anyways Tobi was about the best MS you can sign

raw ermine
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probably the most official out of all of them

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other than an OWL website press release

earnest leaf
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Hold up

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Tobi to philly

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Philly stonks up

worn falcon
earnest leaf
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Better than 300 ping poko

worn falcon
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Philly stonks down

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but they had other options...and yet they pick Hotba

next mesa
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perhaps hotba with good coaching will be good

tidal ridge
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😳

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tobi tho

hot onyx
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The difference between NineK and IMT is the difference between Godzilla and a common house spider

next mesa
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Yes that's what I'm saying I mean Imt not very good innit

raw ermine
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oof ANS got demoted xd

hot onyx
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Yeah I know, Hotba might have potential

raw ermine
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coaching is 10 times better

hot onyx
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That’s an understatement

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Honestly this might be a hotter take than Closer and Bebe being a bottom 5 support line

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But Hotba could turn into a better off tank than Poko

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Or at the very least be equal

balmy wolf
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hotba's good he just needs to learn to read the tone of the team he's on. guangzhou were an aggressive team so his aggressive play worked well. new york were not an aggressive team and he just kinda didn't learn that.

buoyant coyote
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True

buoyant coyote
burnt trout
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Does any of this really matter though

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Outlaws will crush them anyway

raw ermine
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doesn't really matter

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whether sfs get the 3peat, or valiant go lossless

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the universe will end one day

trail perch
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But what’s more important, the universe, or Decay MVP

hot onyx
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Miss me with that bullshit

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Shredlock MVP

digital cloud
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wdym ans got demoted

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he is the sixth man/member of the academy team

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how do you get demoted from that

raw ermine
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as the universe collapses from the outside in, approaching decay, you hear a mighty bellow, that echos throughout the surrounding area, as the world around, in more than one way, begins to morph
ogon po gotovnasti
the mighty stampede that is the end of the universe screeches to a halt, as decay strikes it with a surge of energy, it comes to a standstill. For a few moments, the world is but frozen in place. The Surge subsides, and the new edge of the universe hovers meters from decay, who remains unphased

trail perch
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Decay uses graviton surge, its super effective

raw ermine
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the universe is confused!

digital cloud
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hello

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what is this about ans getting demoted

raw ermine
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he went from main T1 roster to academy

hot onyx
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Neptuno used Caduceus Blaster, critical hit!

digital cloud
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he was already on the academy

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you just can't have two teams yet

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so he is also the sixth man

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and if he learns fast he likely replaces someone soon anyway

#

but he needs a lot of teaching

buoyant coyote
#

I am confusion

next mesa
#

Talking about valorant not relevant haha it rythmes

raw ermine
#

reminder that tobi is 27

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and still a god mf'ing gamer

next mesa
#

soon is 26

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too

tawdry hamlet
#

Probably a hot take but sparkr shax are going to be nuts PogChimp

trail perch
#

tobi at 23 was teammates with Whoru at 15

tawdry hamlet
#

If edison could get a little bit better I honestly think atlanta would have an s tier dps line

#

I really really like atlanta's dps line this year but they're just like a touch touch too low to compete with the top lines

#

Pelican is a beast and Kai is a beast FUCKYEAH

devout path
#

Smurf is so hot

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And his Winston

#

Smurf carries the shock

sullen berry
#

I'll watch Seoul VODs last year specifically of tobi only because his whiffs are a lot more entertaining than his big plays

#

He is the last person I'd sign in East division for a brig. His lucio is where its at

dry mesa
#

what's the name for the brawl comp with a rein and winston?

mortal abyss
#

I like to call it cleave but since it’s barely seen any use in pro play I don’t think there’s an official name for it

plush grail
#

im saying it right here

#

quote me on this

#

la glads is gonna fucking suck

balmy wolf
#

oh you bet i will

plush grail
#

for reference

#

below like top 6/7 is bad for la glads

cursive plover
#

I legit support glads because I like the colours and our saviour moth is on the team

balmy wolf
#

tbh anything under top 3 or 4 is at least a failure with that roster

plush light
#

Shockwave better get some play on ashe at least

idle gorge
#

why would they play shockwave on ashe when they have one of the best hitscans in the world

balmy wolf
#

shockwave is better on ashe imo

idle gorge
#

idk shockwave will likely play echo/tracer for them

balmy wolf
#

carpe is gonna be the tracer player

idle gorge
#

shockwave is nasty on echo he will def play her

balmy wolf
#

they have rascal eqo

#

he wont

little tusk
#

I mean last season philly also had carpe on tracer and the other dps on widow/hitscan

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can't remember who it was, I think heesu?

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or was it ivy idk

balmy wolf
#

ye

#

heesu

little tusk
#

yeh

#

philly barely had carpe on hitscan

mortal abyss
#

I mean fusion did best when carpe was on widow/ashe

cedar oasis
#

Can we get an f for the fusion who somehow managed to choke already before the season started

little tusk
#

valiant > fusion

tawdry hamlet
#

hmm shockwave was a staple on echo last season but I imagine rascal or a dedicated project like eqo would cover that

mortal abyss
#

Shockwave was originally meant to be the replacement for ivy btw

tawdry hamlet
#

I am noticing hitscans not having a good tracer has become the problem this season HYPE

mortal abyss
#

That’s what ninek said

tawdry hamlet
#

Decay is the tracer and widow for justice right?

#

shame philly can't get another dps as good at tracer since it is far from carpes best hero but he is the only one who can play her

mortal abyss
#

Jerry

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Is the secondary hitscan

#

Shockwave has a good tracer iirc

#

He just didn’t play it cus ping

hot onyx
#

Honestly this isn’t much to go off but Rascal had a very viable tracer when he played her on his streams

#

At the very least his tracer is better than Heesu and Ivy’s was

idle gorge
#

philly just has too many dps players

hot onyx
#

They have less than last season

idle gorge
#

wait really?

hot onyx
#

Yeah

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Carpe Rascal Eqo Shockwave this season

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Carpe Ivy Eqo Heesu ChipSa last season

idle gorge
#

i also think taiyo is a complete misbuy for shock, i mean nero plays everything taiyo does but better

hot onyx
#

Including torb?

idle gorge
#

idk, but torb isnt going to be meta anyway

hot onyx
#

cough hero pools are added to two tournaments this season cough

idle gorge
#

torb still won't be meta

next mesa
#

Idkkk

#

I think carpes long range hitscans are better than his tracer but idk

hot onyx
#

That’s because they are

covert hollow
hot onyx
#

Nah dude

covert hollow
#

Na

hot onyx
#

Joobi doom

covert hollow
#

Na DoomfistThumbsUp OnFire

#

Who would win

hot onyx
#

Remember when that was a serious question for the playoffs for the “build your bracket” thing?

covert hollow
#

Yes

hot onyx
#

And like 10% said titans

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
#

Imagine trying to show your face in public after being in that 10%

covert hollow
#

I know

tawdry hamlet
#

Tbf wash hadn't brought out decay yet and titans had just upset reign a few weeks before iirc

hot onyx
#

Washington has Decay for a couple regular season matches before playoffs

#

If I’m not wrong they took a map against the shock

tawdry hamlet
#

Idk it's unlikely but I could see why people would have the underdog dream Salutations

covert hollow
#

I hate shock

hot onyx
#

But they had decay on regular hitscan before the zarya hog meta

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah like to be fair justice was like 12th in rankings right lmao

#

Something way up there

idle gorge
covert hollow
idle gorge
#

decay is class, kinda surprising how he isn't on a higher team

cedar oasis
#

Everyone had Washington in top 5

hot onyx
#

Probably because Justice threw their life savings at him

cedar oasis
#

How do you get higher

idle gorge
#

wait really, i didn't follow washington and their team lmao

tawdry hamlet
covert hollow
tawdry hamlet
#

They're a likely top 4 this season or top 3 if dallas flops

hot onyx
#

Bruh Washington has Assassin Fury and Mag

idle gorge
#

how is toronto looking with placements, idk the players too well

tawdry hamlet
#

They made some nice upgrades at least

hot onyx
#

Aztac is the most underrated rookie coming into this season and nobody can change my mind

#

The man is a fucking nut

tepid ibex
#

they have a solid support line

tawdry hamlet
#

Heesu, Sado, are also nice pickups as they were on a playoffs team last season crome even if that team flopped in playoffs

idle gorge
#

i hope we'll continue to see logix play he's so good imo

tawdry hamlet
#

Salutations in NA he is alright but I've been spoiled by nuts apac hitscans that would mop the floor with him Salutations

balmy wolf
#

i hope choi's hero pool is at least viable this year so we get to see him

tawdry hamlet
#

Oh yeah, it is super meta atm

#

Hypercatjam

idle gorge
#

choi is aight at zarya, and rein zarya is meta rn

balmy wolf
#

is it? seeing a lot of

#

oh

#

shit sorry lmao

#

choisehwan

tawdry hamlet
#

Ah

little tusk
#

why do ppl hype dallas up so much

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah he is the new rookie they put on mcree during he masters right

balmy wolf
#

i mean yeah but he isn't a mccree player

little tusk
#

is it cuz of fearless

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah I remember people saying that was a dumb move by them lol

idle gorge
#

if you say choi we think choiyobin ofc :wazowski_stare:

tawdry hamlet
balmy wolf
#

i really just dont care about NA teams, my bad

hot onyx
#

Dallas hero pool is kinda lacking with certain heroes

balmy wolf
#

and yeah it wasn't a great move. he's like, Genji, Echo, Pharah, Tracer.

idle gorge
#

if zarya rein stays meta shock are going to be rolling

hot onyx
#

Imo they’re overrated but still a top 10 team

tawdry hamlet
#

Fair enough, apac is a different watch, feels more streamlined where na feels more like a certain player can pop off and upset

#

Like apac doesn't feel organic to me in a way it almost feels too perfect lmao

#

I like watching teams that are far from perfect like houston sometimes loll

balmy wolf
#

apac is like both extremes, it's either perfect or it's a level of chaos that na teams could never even aspire to be

idle gorge
#

kinda sad that there's like no european representation in overwatch

balmy wolf
#

nothing in between

cedar oasis
#

What

balmy wolf
#

????

#

is he for real

cedar oasis
#

What do you smoke

balmy wolf
#

did he not get the news

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean there is at the moment FUCKYEAH

#

Paris is all euro players atm

idle gorge
#

ye one team

balmy wolf
#

london is all EU apart from blase

idle gorge
#

ok 2 teams that's it

hot onyx
#

London and Paris would like a word 📞

balmy wolf
#

the number of EU players on NA teams?

tawdry hamlet
#

London was entirely korean the last 3 seasons to be fair lmaoo

idle gorge
#

there's like 80 korean players, that's one country, there's like 20 european players tops

balmy wolf
#

ok?

cedar oasis
#

Smh why cant every team be full of EU players smh

balmy wolf
#

but there being lots of korean players doesn't mean there's no eu representation lmao

#

wtf?

idle gorge
#

and i also kinda meant that there's not enough european teams

tawdry hamlet
#

I want to watch teru pop off

balmy wolf
#

bruh

cedar oasis
#

Who

balmy wolf
#

titans proj

cedar oasis
#

Did the titans get worse

tawdry hamlet
#

Also I know fire was with atlanta with frd but I can't for the life of me remember a single time they played him

idle gorge
#

idk who they got in return

tawdry hamlet
#

Ah yeah that makes sense I got really into it right after brig wasn't relevant that's why

hot onyx
little tusk
#

I'll just be happy if we see as little of sombra/reaper as possible

tawdry hamlet
#

trollformation Frd was like C tier iirc

idle gorge
balmy wolf
#

frd's fine tbh

#

one of the better parts of that team

#

what a wreck

#

lmao

little tusk
#

I just prefer hitscan metas

cedar oasis
#

That's gotta hurt

idle gorge
cedar oasis
#

When frd is one of your better players

balmy wolf
#

yeah

little tusk
#

well it makes sense I like seeing skillbased plays xd

tawdry hamlet
#

Roolf frd shredlock fire teru Linkzr Dalton

#

What a roster

balmy wolf
#

cant believe they kept roolf

#

im fine with them keeping shredlock even tbh but roolf was real bad

cedar oasis
#

Linkzr is gonna dominate one game then be the worst in the leauge for the other games

little tusk
#

thats vancouver titans right?

idle gorge
#

shockwave and ksaa were the only 2 good players on titans last year and they lost both

little tusk
#

titans are gonna be like dead last imo

tawdry hamlet
#

Ksaa is inconsistent the last few times I've seen him in contenders

idle gorge
#

what region he playing contenders in?

tawdry hamlet
#

But he was good for being on high ping loll

#

Eu

#

Iirc that is

hot onyx
#

Honestly I though when Fire played brig he wasn’t too shabby

#

Not in the top 10 ms by a mile but he was serviceable

little tusk
#

!!owl2021

#

rip what's the command

hot onyx
#

Single !

#

!owl2021

#

!OWL2021

#

!2021OWL

#

!2021owl

#

Poop nuggets

cedar oasis
#

Smh

little tusk
#

owned

raw ermine
#

!!owl2021 is the correct command

vagrant cargo
#

Fire is okay

raw ermine
#

oh

next mesa
#

!!owl2021

devout path
#

Overall second last

little tusk
#

yah valiant below them

#

watch them upset

devout path
#

Watch valiant do better than titans lol

next mesa
#

both 0-16

devout path
#

Valiant gonna beat the spark or something

next mesa
#

idk

raw ermine
#

imagine having architect and guxue

#

and losing to the valiant

next mesa
#

and shy

#

and lige

#

and coldest

trail perch
#

and MCD, and bernar, and Godsb and SMS, their entire roster is superstars

next mesa
#

wouldnt call godsb and bernar a superstar

plush grail
#

talking about superstars on the spark and does not mention guxue and architect OMEGALUL

next mesa
#

I mean

next mesa
plush grail
#

shut up i cant read

#

ignore me

trail perch
#

Bernar was a superstar on fusion UNI, and GodsB is just one of those top hitscan players, ever since s2, hes just been good

next mesa
#

Godsb is bad

#

how is he a "top" hitscan player

#

more like permabenched by shy

trail perch
#

im not even going to acknowledge that take, take it out of the oven first and give it some time to cool off

plush grail
#

naga onigod tsuna best dps line in owl

frank granite
#

linkzr top 5 widow

plush grail
#

lmaoooo did you legit just make that

next mesa
#

yeah

#

I mean I used the template

plush grail
#

whats next? ur gonna claim diya is owl worthy?

next mesa
#

by sado aim

#

yes

plush grail
#

insane

balmy wolf
#

GodsB just kinda exists

raw ermine
#

he was good s2, but fell off

wind cliff
#

Is anyone else sad that OG Excelsior squad is basically gone? RIP

plush grail
#

yep

#

could have been top tier with proper coaching

wind cliff
#

Never even won the grand final and were without a doubt one of the most dominant teams to be in OWL 😦

tropic herald
#

It’s okay Bc if you stick with NY this year you’ll be happily surprised

cedar oasis
#

You'll defanitly be suprised

wind cliff
#

I mean I've been rooting for them since season 1 and don't plan on switching. But my expectations aren't high.

kind ridge
#

i mean

#

im not a nyxl fan but thats kinda sad ngl

plush light
#

It was over when pine left.

cedar oasis
#

So season 2

next mesa
#

s1 was their year

cedar oasis
#

Season 1 was good times when half the teams didnt know how to play overwatch

hot onyx
#

Still malding that Zappis hasn’t found a team this season

balmy wolf
cedar oasis
#

Season 3 cloudy rien would actualy shit on everyone in season 1

raw ermine
#

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#

go to 1:24

#

tell me how hotba is better than that

next mesa
#

lol I saw that

balmy wolf
#

one week remains, hype

plush grail
#

hotba and mano never really worked well together

#

mano and meko was a legit top tier tank duo

plush light
#

Didn't meko retire

mortal abyss
#

No I don’t think he did

raw ermine
#

jjanu did

#

meko went fa and afk

raw ermine
#

damn

#

500$

mortal abyss
#

Wow so much money from the indie company

plush grail
#

holy fucking shit u have to predict every single score from the first 3 weeks

raw ermine
#

score?

#

oof

tropic herald
#

For all you fellow people

#

pw: overwatchiscool

#

No spaces no caps

raw ermine
#

uh

#

somehow I joined twice

#

can you kick one of them?

#

idk how that happened

next mesa
#

fwhats that

raw ermine
#

oh maybe I didn't

#

I think since there are 2 ppl

#

it showed me at the top

#

then the total list of ppl

#

nvm

tropic herald
#

It’s a private leaderboard for pickems but this server

plush grail
#

im gonna flex my owl knowledge

raw ermine
#

goes through entire prediction bracket, finds all LAV matches, set is 3-0 against them

next mesa
#

do you need a phone number

#

alsoim canada not uk france spain or usa

plush grail
#

im already seeing some pepega predictions lmao

raw ermine
#

I entered a phone #

tropic herald
next mesa
#

good addition

#

they had 2 coaches only

tropic herald
#

3

devout path
#

Ok empathy

#

Why do you hate fusion

plush grail
#

was legit about to ask

#

how

devout path
#

I saw that and I was like huh

#

No way valiant win a single map against anyone except charge and spark

tropic herald
#

you guys arent ready for my takes

devout path
#

That’s not even a take just bad

cedar oasis
#

takes

#

those takes give people strokes

tropic herald
#

its not letting me see anyone elses picks

cedar oasis
#

i better not see any atlanta fanboys

devout path
devout path
#

I’m with Boston

noble nexus
#

I tried to do my pickems earlier and closed the tab just as I finished and ragequit

cedar oasis
#

stop right there

plush grail
#

they're not mine

cedar oasis
#

who did it

noble nexus
#

I'm gonna make London 3-0 everyone and you can't stop me

plush grail
#

GLADS OVERRATED

noble nexus
#

lmao

tropic herald
plush grail
#

yours

tropic herald
#

yeah

#

atlanta gonna clap toronto

plush grail
#

also ????

cedar oasis
#

no

#

stop

#

thats not right

plush grail
#

empathy what are you smoking

cedar oasis
#

they have hydration on tank still

#

what do you smoke

tropic herald
#

I am feeling like that picture of the one guy with lots of swords pointing at me

#

Hydration is playing dps this year

plush grail
#

but bro some of ur predictions

tropic herald
#

My preds are hot but that makes them more fun when I am right

devout path
#

glads overrated
Shock outdated
Boston (something about winning)

next mesa
#

activated?

plush grail
devout path
#

Yes thank you

plush grail
#

if la valiant 3-1's fusion i will eat sand

devout path
#

Shock outdated
Glads overrated
Boston activated

next mesa
#

I could see fusion lose to valiant with people on 250 ping

#

as bad as hotba is with him and tobi on good ping they easily win this

devout path
#

If valiant wins a game against fusion I’ll stop being a Boston fan

cedar oasis
#

shock is indeed cock

plush grail
#

its so interesting how some people think fusion are champion contenders and some people think they're gonna lose to valiant

devout path
#

Also don’t look at my predictions

tropic herald
#

The only pred I have that’s hot is valiant winning you guys are just scared to have Houston win games

plush grail
next mesa
#

I dont have a phone number lmaoo

forest raven
#

As a huge shock stan I would not be surprised if they lost to glads Hmm

plush grail
devout path
tropic herald
cedar oasis
#

i have 100 percent confidence in atlanta losing

next mesa
#

kevster is in us right?

tropic herald
#

No

next mesa
#

shock win

#

kevster not on 30 ping

tropic herald
#

Mirror Doom gonna slap shock into the ground

forest raven
#

Mirr OMEGALUL r

next mesa
#

ta1yo cree will hard counter

devout path
#

Is he really tho

plush grail
#

what are you all smoking fr

devout path
#

Boston top 3 team

#

Na

tropic herald
#

That’s not my preds don’t try to pin that on me

#

I make hot takes but I’m not having Boston beat justice LOL

devout path
#

Just you wait

forest raven
#

Mag will poo all over Stand1

plush grail
#

@devout path like the first predictions were legit all pretty good

#

but then boston came

devout path
#

Boston will be top 3 team all na

tropic herald
#

You guys definitely shouldn’t be making preds more than just the first week

#

You will definitely have to change them

plush grail
#

yeah i just did week 1 apac and na

forest raven
#

I'm not making any preds

#

Abstainers suprCHAD

devout path
#

I did all I’ll change later

plush grail
#

what if empathy ends up being right and valiant turns out to be amazing

devout path
#

I just did all incase I forget

devout path
#

Watch Boston beat glads

#

Please

tropic herald
#

You guys are aware that Philly are the team pooing the bed in scrims rn right?

forest raven
#

I mean H OMEGALUL tba

devout path
#

Are you aware that fdgod said that Boston and glads were the only threat to shock

#

In scrims

tropic herald
#

I posted that link here

#

Yes

plush grail
devout path
#

Just you wait

#

I have faith in Boston

forest raven
#

Get it

tropic herald
#

I get the pun

plush grail
#

remember when houston was fucking in scrims?

forest raven
plush grail
#

how did that end up

tropic herald
#

Houston still are

cedar oasis
#

eh

next mesa
#

and astro

#

not anymore they got subs

forest raven
#

No matter what happens

plush grail
#

to be fair poko > 250 ping hotba

tropic herald
#

Also no one has said any good things about Dallas in forever

forest raven
#

Shock will win the trophy suprOkay

tropic herald
plush grail
#

glads overrated

forest raven
#

Shock still have Smurf, Choi, and Viol2t

little tusk
#

philly gonna suck

plush grail
#

not even a hot take, just facts here

forest raven
#

Glister is only a marginal downgrade of Ans

mortal abyss
#

tf are some of y'all on

devout path
#

Shock? Outdated
Glads? Overrated
Boston activated

tropic herald
#

Luigi Glads never lose to Shock for the first game

#

That’s just a know fact

forest raven
#

It's true

next mesa
#

30 ping tobi >> 250 ping astro

forest raven
#

Can we all agree Atlanta is gonna be poop again

plush grail
tropic herald
#

No

devout path
tropic herald
#

Atlanta actually gonna be above average

forest raven
#

Gator/Hawk

tropic herald
#

Their dps line is too good to be a bad team

cedar oasis
#

no

#

atlanta bottom 5

#

easily

forest raven
#

Brad and LegitRC

next mesa
#

every dps line is good

#

almost*

devout path
plush grail
#

even the bottom teams except for like titans have a good dps line

next mesa
#

xzi is overrated

cedar oasis
#

was pelican was in contenders befor eowl

tropic herald
#

The only dps lines I’d argue are better than Atlanta is like Justice Shock and Glads

tropic herald
next mesa
#

dragons

#

best dps line

plush grail
#

do u legit think atlanta dps > dallas dps?????/

cedar oasis
#

how do we know pelican will be good in owl tho

tropic herald
#

I’m talking about NA btw

forest raven
#

If tracer is hard meta again at some point Shock stonks automatically rise

next mesa
#

reign has good scrim bucks

tropic herald
#

I’d rather have Kai on hitscan than Xzi

devout path
#

If tracer is meta I’m dropping Boston as my favorite team