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#esports-discussion
limber pine
kind ridge
i think they will do fine they have other dps who are just as good as him so worst they'll be is 16th
digital cloud
I mean, soon was only really maybe useful for tracer
this really isn't that bad
they aren't houston tier now off this
devout path
i think they will do fine they have other dps who are just as good as him so wor...
none were as good as soon for tracer
kind ridge
Imagine before the season starts boston uprising releases all players and staff as they move to china for the 2021 season
digital cloud
would make more sense for a large amount of the teams
owl not too beloved by na or eu anymore
devout path
Imagine before the season starts *boston uprising releases all players and staff...
i may be a loyal boston fan but i would literally hate them for that
kind ridge
who owns uprising anyway
digital cloud
the only thing valiant did wrong for selling was screwing their players
Robert Kraft lol
kind ridge
no i mean org
balmy wolf
no i mean org
Kraft
digital cloud
whatever owns the patriots
digital cloud
I see
digital cloud
boston are a bit like the instant macaroni of the league
kind ridge
just add water
limber pine
If they play rush they won't need the tracer
but I still don't trust im37 on the McCree
worn falcon
hope philly dont get a excuse and drop the western players for korean
balmy wolf
They already said they won't
worn falcon
i know, but time is tight af.
plush light
Im37 and c-hex cover hitscan, c-hex isn't actually half bad at hitscan.
worn falcon
and playing at 200 would be a mess at least for the first tournie
kind ridge
hope philly dont get a excuse and drop the western players for korean
they might as well have
worn falcon
imagine scrimming for hours and days before season just to have Boston like "nah fam, we can't pay your full salary lol"
plush grail
soon??????
unkempt walrus
mortal abyss
Philly will probably end up promoting clestyn + unique or they’ll sign them on a 2-way
Only problem with that is that the team would comm in korean meaning it’d be harder to intergrate the western players
earnest leaf
platchat talking about boston without knowing soon is gone ohnonono
Platchat curse strikes again
rare magnet
raw ermine
rare magnet
well just heard the soon news...
mortal abyss
Yeah why Is jake not there
kind ridge
crimzo ballin with the new cut i see
cedar oasis
Atlanta bottom 5
trail perch
Platchat says higher
next mesa
when has platchat ever been right
trail perch
They dont really go with hot takes tho
balmy wolf
ye top 5
tropic herald
If rush stays dominant in NA I see Atlanta doing good for it
next mesa
why would ping hurt london and paris
like if anything they play all their matches in 90 ping their opponents should not get used to it
worn falcon
and atlanta using their secret weapon: bastion
tropic herald
raw ermine
doa returning?
trail perch
Not fleta KR?
raw ermine
he did kinda hint at something a while back
trail perch
Or Pine Junkertown?
tropic herald
ANS Ilios 
little tusk
onigod's isnt an owl clip
trail perch
Like the great bamboozle
tropic herald
Then again ANS wasn’t a clip, he was the entire round
tropic herald
That one is clean but
raw ermine
cleanness up there with the pine 4k
raw ermine
the flick is unrivaled
next mesa
tropic herald
You guys, ANS Ilios simply the most impactful
trail perch
Yeah pine fs is a top 5
next mesa
ANS that shot on tobi and profit on busan
little tusk
yeh that pine pop off is nutty as well
next mesa
profit was like 2% off of bob
little tusk
how do u guiys think ans will do in valorant
little tusk
agreed
trail perch
I mean ans saya same team
trail perch
and t1 still isnt good
next mesa
like
little tusk
I saw him only get like 15 kills in that bot scenario for prac
next mesa
6th man
little tusk
which is pretty meh for a pro player
next mesa
ans didnt even play
little tusk
t1 is kinda trash
next mesa
ans should play
little tusk
I don't think he'll play well idk
little tusk
they do
digital cloud
T1 do yeah, and Ans needs a proper coach
He grinded hard in ow, but he literally had crusty to teach him
next mesa
he should go back to shock and vibe behind glister
digital cloud
So far he seems to know nothing about tact shooters
He would need another good Val coach to succeed
He has no idea how to spray properly, and his crosshair placement is bad
Needs a lot of work
limber pine
kinda makes you wonder how terrible Valorant's castings issues are
worn falcon
kinda makes you wonder how terrible Valorant's castings issues are
Which issues?
raw ermine
ppl undercutting, orgs trying to get free casting gigs
@cedar oasis plat chat put atlanta above mayhem
next mesa
<@!352854254358102016> plat chat put atlanta above mayhem
wack
I know people are super high on pelican kai but like
yaki and bqb
cedar oasis
no
next mesa
just as good imo
cedar oasis
half of atlanta is bottom 3
cedar oasis
massa is mega washed
balmy wolf
ye atl just better
next mesa
idk about masaa being washed
next mesa
ye atl just better
really
raw ermine
since s2
balmy wolf
ye
next mesa
h o w
cedar oasis
HOW
balmy wolf
rush meta stonks
balmy wolf
yes
limber pine
Yaki is a top 3 mei
mortal abyss
https://imgur.com/a/7hggzC2 platchat final power rankings
raw ermine
dammit you beat me to it
mortal abyss
lol
mortal abyss
https://imgur.com/a/7hggzC2 platchat final power rankings
@cedar oasis how do you feel about these power rankings
next mesa
too many stacked teams
cedar oasis
atlanta are too high
balmy wolf
hey guys
mortal abyss
Epic showdown
raw ermine
<insert political jab at a group of people who loosely fit that definition>
mortal abyss
This will go down in the history books
balmy wolf
whoever is right gonna get his feet licked
raw ermine
by whom?
mortal abyss
😳
balmy wolf
😳
yo
the rival
what kind of lick
tho
important
ever licked on a lollipop? @balmy wolf
its not gonna be tasty
digital cloud
fitting the whole thing in the mouth eh
mortal abyss
Doable
balmy wolf
(unless you like feet idk)
digital cloud
I like your style
balmy wolf
ever licked on a lollipop? <@456226577798135808>
lewd
digital cloud
or the mouth
balmy wolf
not lewd thats cruel
mortal abyss
or the mouth
Yeah
cedar oasis
the fuck
mortal abyss
LMAO
balmy wolf
@cedar oasis waddup nerd
plush grail
AH YES I LOVE ESPORTS
balmy wolf
i mean like you gonna just put a tongue on the sole or does it have to be like, proper between the toes kinda action
plush grail
yes i love esports!!!
balmy wolf
@balmy wolf the whole action
oh shit
^so i hope they are just middle of the pack
i dont want wet feet
that's fair
mortal abyss
balmy wolf
i love floridas social
mortal abyss
oooh u gon be dissappointed
They said 5th if all the eu players get to Korea in time
little tusk
oh damn rip soon
digital cloud
why does mayhem see atlanta as their rival
mortal abyss
mortal abyss
why does mayhem see atlanta as their rival
Probably just a dig at platchat
digital cloud
I am pretty sure this has been a thing for a while
balmy wolf
nah
the whole last season
theyve been rivals for a while
Yeah
Florida and Georgia sports
bruh
cedar oasis
atlanta is its own rival
little tusk
happy is on outlaws I forgot
mortal abyss
little tusk
I honestly don't think valiant will be that bad
seeing how they're beating fusion xddd
plush grail
thats legit the first ranking i've seen that puts paris over london
mortal abyss
seeing how they're beating fusion xddd
i mean fusion are basically 4v6ing scrims if they've got poko and astro playing
little tusk
bet they still beat fusion even if they have full tema
mortal abyss
...right
next mesa
I put dynasty over fusion full team I just be like that
#1 i believe
watching the feed right now
fusion gm says very likely a portion of the starting lineup wont be ready for start of season
they're probably gonna sign a short term player
"first couple matches are gonna be tough"
tells the fans to brace themselves
mortal abyss
"a couple of exciting faces, that kind of, maybe, some new face might be joining the team to help us out in the beginning of the season, it's someone you guys are familiar with" is the phrase Roston said
next mesa
oooooo
mortal abyss
Please don’t be hotba
next mesa
when did he say that im blazing it thourhg at 3x speed
mortal abyss
Towards the end
mortal abyss
Maybe someone the org / players are familiar with ( a T1 player)
mortal abyss
are you saying he might be ex fusion
Idk probably not
Just thinking about it makes me want to cry
Wait
Has clestyn been in owl before?
plush grail
It's okay we all try to forget about 2020 london
mortal abyss
😔
trail perch
Glister hitting that double deadlift
tropic herald
Clestyn actually good
next mesa
I still think eqo threw on rialto for that last blade
burnt trout
Outlaws best team
tawdry hamlet
Does boston have another tracer player with soon gone?
burnt cedar
i think im37 plays tracer but i could be wrong
barren quest
Colorhex plays a bit of Tracer iirc
kind ridge
not super good tho
trail perch
RIP
somber adder
Cannot remember if this has been discussed here or not, but:
Anyone know if OWL Tokens are granted through VODs? Hard to get to see games here in Aus due to timezones. Not getting up at 4AM to watch a team play, ya know?
trail perch
they arent, but they are granted for rebroadcasts
somber adder
they arent, but they are granted for rebroadcasts
Good to know. Cheers.
idle gorge
I’m so hyped to see super on rein in action
plush grail
all of the atlanta fans excited because they have KSP now
forgetting that they managed to fuck up bad with babybay and erster on the roster
balmy wolf
babybay switched to Valorant mid-season and erster was horrible last year
ksp pelican is a massive upgrade
mortal abyss
https://twitter.com/Fusion/status/1379558283124604931
I don’t know if this was already said in here and I’m too lazy to scroll but it should be remembered that Heesu was announced after last years roster reveal
sullen berry
Cannot remember if this has been discussed here or not, but:
Anyone know if OWL ...
AUS timezones, oh yeah it hurts to watch NA live and half asleep
You're much better off for owl Tokens to enjoy the East division matches which there are less of
And hit F5 and play when West games are live from about 4-6am your time
and now the only news story you need to hear about Contenders China all year
tropic herald
Yeah Team Chaser pretty good
sullen berry
that doesn't even include Apr1ta on Team Chaser too
map 5 and the tracer diff is staggering
gleaming wagon
i want the moira skin😭
next mesa
up academy got swept by tc?
balmy wolf
last week yeah
up looked bad
up looked better before and after their tc game though so it was a blip tbh
next mesa
tragic
balmy wolf
they were never gonna beat tc
it's fine
i think up win all their matches for the rest of the season now tbh
they look good with dank
ez schedule too
next mesa
TC undefeated so far right
raw ermine
that's better than justice
digital cloud
These people are crazy thinking Atlanta does well with their coaching lol
balmy wolf
he scrims against them, its not crazy
wanton birch
Shanghai out here posting thirst traps of void on TikTok XD
raw ermine
lmfao
wanton birch
It’s probably gotten the most engagement out of any of their social media posts and it’s just a bunch of people making 0-42 jokes and simping
sullen berry
Twitter
still undecided, but icymi he did lay out at the end of his time on Paris Eternal
he did also say the league wouldn't allow him play without his visa?
||SoOn: Furthermore, I was told the reason that I couldn’t play from my home with ping is that a player for an NA-based team without his visa is forbidden to participate in an official OWL match.||
limber pine
what
sullen berry
did that mean the rules don't apply for Blase on Spitfire on an EU roster
next mesa
Bullshit
balmy wolf
there's no way
if you have no visa and you play on ping in an official match is it legit the case that you're like
working in the US without a visa
no fucking way
limber pine
It's..possible
sullen berry
¯_(ツ)_/¯
limber pine
if he's getting paid by boston, then he'd "have a job" in the US with no visa
It's probably not as cut and dry as SoOn's statement
sullen berry
wondering if goes much further than his visa not getting approved in time
Valiant I just assumed they didn't even make it worth a chinese investor's time since they would essentially screw the players over worse than the Korean Vancouver living situation
next mesa
fuck covid all my homies hate covid
sullen berry
nah what's that man
it's been x days since lockdown should be my new daily nickname
raw ermine
x days since the WHo declared a pandemic
so a year and like a month
nearly 400 days
sullen berry
yeah
raw ermine
392 days
raw ermine
I googled it and saw march 11th
makes sense tho
a year, plus a month, +- a few days nears 400
worn falcon
```` Furthermore, I was told the reason that I couldn’t play from my home with ping is that a player for an NA-based team without his visa is forbidden to participate in an official OWL match.```
i am like ????????
Finally, Valorant has also always been a viable option for me. It's a game that I like very much. It’s a risky choice, of course, but this is probably the best moment to switch if I want to start a new career elsewhere.
Valorant it is then
sadge
raw ermine
balmy wolf
RIO PARTICIPATING IN OWL AND OPENING A PLAYER AGENCY WHAT CAN'T HE DO
digital cloud
valorant just can't catch a break getting the dregs of ow. they only got, like, Ans out of all the good players so far
and Ans doesn't even know how to play tact shooters
digital cloud
and one day xepher will cash them and be the most successful player
worn falcon
Freefeel slapping all those ex owl players in valorant one day
digital cloud
lol
good for the ow players that valorant is not too much like cs from what I have seen
apparently cs is way more punishing of aggression, which is basically the forte of successful ow teams in valorant rn
digital cloud
my understanding is that is roughly how some of the more ow heavy teams in eu were doing
but ye, faze overall probably the only big successful ow team in val
they did just lose recently due to experimenting comps in a qualifier though
they kept getting stomped by sen so it seems they are trying to find an alternative to the smeag
also smeag is basically a common term now in na
balmy wolf
isnt one of the top AU teams have ex contender players
plush grail
it's been x days since lockdown should be my new daily nickname
x amount of days since visas fucked up a team/player
also imagine a overwatch league where money is never a problem
stacked teams all around
trail perch
I want to be a multi billionaire just to throw money at owl
Imagine if someone payed players 1m+ a year
raw ermine
I prolly would too
trail perch
Instantly signed players
Like profit, ik ur having fun, but ill give u 2m to join my team
Heyyy fleta, how does 3m a year sound
Decay, ik WJ make a team around u and signed you for 3 years, but if I buy out then sign u to a 4m 2 year contract...
Like with enough money u get any player
balmy wolf
then just pay opposing good players to sit some matches out
that's probably legal right
mortal abyss
Just buy the league
raw ermine
in 9 days
little tusk
poooog
plush grail
this chat is gonna be FILLED with questions about tokens on the first week
plush grail
!tokens works!
limber pine
!!owl2021
young fractalBOT
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little tusk
oh shit ur right wtf
plush grail
second game is where everyone looking at
whats the second game
plush grail
glads overrated
plush grail
we know
little tusk
is that local time or smth else
next mesa
eastern
oh wait
its all in my local time
nvm ignore what I said
it iwll be 4:30 EST
little tusk
can't wait for apr 18's 2 pm match xd
little tusk
I was talking philly vs valiant
trail perch
wtf
balmy wolf
THEY HAVE CLESTYN RIGHT THERE
balmy wolf
i think he's fine as an OT and most of what made him look awful last year was that he's an aggressive player and the rest of NY wasn't but
still
his time's gone
philly what are you doing
go for that pre-established mano synergy lmfao
all that synergy they had
yeah
little tusk
philly fumbling man
worn falcon
Clestyn can play dva?
little tusk
dang and I wanted to see shockwave on a good team
balmy wolf
Clestyn can play dva?
that's Clestyn's main hero
worn falcon
yeah, im checking liquipedia, all the ot
i would prefer if they got mek0 instead hotba
next mesa
oh my god
what the fuck
that guy called it
yeah clestyn has a clean dva
@mortal abyss yo
LOL
raw ermine
epic gamer moment
digital cloud
hotba back kekw
mortal abyss
<@!361160149853011969> yo
I’m so sad
balmy wolf
mano sittin here like "another year without peel smh"
bro Hotba's a better flex dps than he is an ot on anything but Hog
cedar oasis
Poor mano
balmy wolf
remember how gz's entire gameplan early 2019 was just "nano Hotba's Tracer or Pharah he'll figure it out"
and weirdly it usually worked lmao
god that team was such a fucking mess
they were fun
forest raven
Isn't Clestyn on Philly's academy team?
balmy wolf
yeah
forest raven
cedar oasis
Philly choked already
raw ermine
T1
balmy wolf
GAEBULLSSI IS STILL IN THE REGION WITHOUT A REAL PLAN RN
balmy wolf
why would hotba be playing pharah? not nero?
Nero was 17
raw ermine
fair
cedar oasis
Could have gotten meko insted
next mesa
im sure they asked mano about this..
"hey mano who do you want tank partner we can have clestyn gaebullsi maybe your old buddy mek0"
"i want hotba"
raw ermine
lmfao
cedar oasis
Poor mano
forest raven
I think joemeister is coaching Harrisburg
balmy wolf
toss him the bag
raw ermine
joemeister-hotba support line
cedar oasis
Imagine thinking you ot partner would be fury for it to end up being hotba again
cedar oasis
You gotta feel bad for mano
balmy wolf
they lose first game hehe
forest raven
I wouldn't be surprised if shock loses 1-2 games in the first 4
Happened last season
raw ermine
S1 as well I think
forest raven
Season 1 they were shit for the first three stages
raw ermine
yeah
forest raven
No super or sina or architect or crusty
balmy wolf
they weren't even that bad that year
they were close to going .500
way closer than people remember
forest raven
-7 map diff
But they went 17-23
They were the worst team outside of the poop trifecta
little tusk
im telling u watch philly lose to valiant
sand violet
multiple better ots available
and instead
they get hotba
lmfao
even if they wanted someone who "worked with mano before"
meko is still better than hotba
and several contenders ots available
cedar oasis
Just imagine the main reason mano joined philly was to play with fury then he gets hotba again
next mesa
doubt was to play with fury
limber pine
Do we actually know how long PHI's visa issues could be?
I've seen a few people say it could only be for one stage, but I've seen no verification of that
tropic herald
Mfw Clestyn is on Phillys academy and they pick up Hotba
next mesa
NineK to Mano: so since we need an offtank player to fill in while poko’s in visa hell, we decided to sign someone you’ve played with before
Mano: sweet, it’s about time someone signed Mek-
Hotba: hi there
Mano: ... oh
Copied from r/cow
I mean to be fair
ninek is such a humongous coach upgrade over IMT
mortal abyss
Mano must be so sad
“Finally I get a team that will allow me to play to my fullest potential”
Hotba: o
trail perch
Ok what if hotbas actually still insane at the game
and s3 he just decided to throw
Because he just hated NYXL after s1 and 2
mortal abyss
Hmm
Philly in s1 : have Hotba and make grand finals
Philly in s2 and 3: don’t have Hotba and don’t make grand finals
noble nexus
sound logic
noble nexus
also apparently Halo has known about hotba to philly for a while and just never reported on it out of respect for philly actually having visa issues
mortal abyss
Shockwave can play tracer tho
noble nexus
isn't shockwave on ping too tho?
hot onyx
But is he better than Godba?
earnest leaf
assuming the meta is mei mcree, carpe/rascal will be perma starting
next mesa
shockwave is one of the players that has visa issues no?
true
honestly that lineup is nasty
but who's the MS
if they can put unique on lucio I cansee them doing well
hot onyx
But they would’ve signed Clestyn if they were remotely interested in T1, Unique too obvious
Hear me out
Tobi to Fusion
noble nexus
Halo to philly lets goooooo
noble nexus
omg yes please
hot onyx
Get that existing synergy with Alarm
hot onyx
Too busy with dedication to the forest
trail perch
Carpe Genji EZ
limber pine
who is available?
worn falcon
i was about tos ay slime, but he is on florida lol
limber pine
Chara is coaching now
limber pine
since he retired as a player?
tropic herald
As much as it pains me they are probably gonna get Unique who is really not that good
balmy wolf
^
limber pine
it's surprising because I haven't seen anything that says that
tropic herald
Saying which part
limber pine
Chara
tropic herald
Idk haven’t seen much on him past him being a coach now
limber pine
If Chara is available though, I think he'd be a fine pickup
balmy wolf
i'd prefer him over Unique. only needs to be temporary and Brig's super viable.
tropic herald
Still confused by Hotba pickup, they literally have Clestyn
balmy wolf
it's very odd
worn falcon
forgot bdosin is retired too
balmy wolf
bdosin ew
runic magnet
Sanguinar wouldn't be BAD. He was a bright spot on London
kind ridge
tobi best option?
runic magnet
Yeah probably
limber pine
in terms of MS with OWL experience, Tobi/Chara/Sanguinar
tropic herald
Guys Sanguinar isn’t starting on O2
balmy wolf
better than carcar for sure
tropic herald
Superrich can speak Korean and English
runic magnet
So that would be probably their best option
tropic herald
Much like most Chinese Contenders players can comm in Korean
The question being does he want to leave CC to play for Philly?
runic magnet
So I don't see why Superich would be much of a downgrade
balmy wolf
And also consider again the visa situation, we saw last year visas from CN to KR aren't straightforward (Wya, Creed, Guxue) especially if Korea are being strict about that stuff, which they once again are now
you can play online from CN but why
would you
tropic herald
And since Philly is contracted as a Korean team this season you can’t play from China on the team according to rules
tropic herald
Unless Superrich is vibing in Korea or has a visa
tropic herald
I’d assume if they gonna ding Soon for not playing in NA then they should be consistent
balmy wolf
there is also like zero time to wait. Philly need these players within a week.
it ain't Superich.
tropic herald
It makes sense, imagine all the financial problems with being payed by a team in another country when you live in another continent
balmy wolf
ChiYo's still underage right
rustic flint
HELLO
tropic herald
I believe so
balmy wolf
shame
tropic herald
Along with Ch0r0ng who I’ve heard is also good but haven’t seen games of
balmy wolf
Ch0r0ng's great
tropic herald
This is a weird spot, all the good talent in tendies is all incubating
digital cloud
you mean underage?
sand violet
philly should just sign sgn
digital cloud
yeah, ow seems to be a game that favors the young and mechanically gifted
digital cloud
real shame sugarfree for instance still isn't eligible
one of the better na talents and he can't even play for years
balmy wolf
https://twitter.com/Riocompany_kr/status/1379811214096621568 sorry if it has been discussed btu can someone tell me what this means ?
balmy wolf
https://twitter.com/Riocompany_kr/status/1379811214096621568 sorry if it has bee...
It's a player agency.
It means he has new agents.
it means literally nothing for anybody except him.
Oh i see thank you
jagged osprey
Hi all I am in the process of setting up a Overwatch accessibility League for players with access needs or disabilities. was wondering if there was anywhere i could post about it?
glacial delta
I feel so bad for dallas
balmy wolf
i guess it would be yeah
raw ermine
Hi all I am in the process of setting up a Overwatch accessibility League for p...
you could possibility speak to the staff about having a post go in #tournaments
jagged osprey
@raw ermine ty mate!
raw ermine
np
mortal abyss
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/mmb1jo/according_to_fdgod_the_strongest_teams_in_scrims/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 just a little insight into the scrimbux exchange
next mesa
ooo
I know french
if anyone needs transcribe a certain timetsamp
boston hell yeah baby
I mean im37 cree valentine mei
lmao so basically moth had the biggest room
and so fdgod was supposed to be in moth's room
but then viol2t is like no thats my room now bitch
so fdgod has viol2t's old room
mortal abyss
lmfao thats amazing
next mesa
really nice interview
devout path
I still don’t know why people think Boston will not do that good
next mesa
theres just a lot of good teams
cedar oasis
and then there is atlanta
balmy wolf
pog
plush grail
next mesa
and said that motivated him
apparently those suitcases shit they got costs like 1k euros
very good quality
devout path
theres just a lot of good teams
Ig so but like there’s no weaknesses as far as I can tell in the Boston lineup
next mesa
they dont have a tracer player now
runic magnet
Are people actually still high on Im37? Because I think he'll be a bottom 5 hitscan this year
next mesa
yes hes cracked wdym
wow bottom 5 hitscan
well every team got crack hitscans so
perhaps
runic magnet
Who's going to really be significantly worse?
Linkzr, maybe Tsuna
Definitely Linkzr tho
next mesa
tsuna is only there for the tracer
Id pick him over hybrid onigod though
Heesu maybe
for widow
ashe
also lip is totally hacking
lyric jetty
Hi lily
sand violet
Id be surprised if im37 is bottom 5
hes not the same player he was the last time he was in owl
he got developed a lot in contenders
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gwangboong dunked on mykaylee one of them is underrated/overrated
wow
fdgod says like frankly there is still a gap between ninek rush and crusty
crusty diff
sand violet
Everyone should expect a dif between them and crusty
rush has never shown super super dominant success especially not consistently
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but its ninek
sand violet
and ninek has still never headcoached on his own
I mean... so?
people hype him up for his development but there is more to being the best hc than that
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like if you told me there was a huge gap between moon and crusty i will also be surprised
idk
sand violet
moon is way more proven as a headcoach than ninek
buoyant coyote
What’s your guys’ thoughts about the Shock and Shanghai this season? Are the Shock going to get their 3rd title? Are Shanghai going to have mote competition in Apac?
next mesa
shanghai still gonna be ahead of apac
sand violet
shanghai has more competition but still solidly first in apac, shock likely still win
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I give shock shanghai equal chance of winning
buoyant coyote
I agree
sand violet
they were overrated the whole time
ppl rating scrim bucks way too hard
the same teams are always "surprisingly good in scrims" then trash during games every season lol
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yes I think outluls are gonna be dog
raw ermine
next mesa
they were clearly above charge
trail perch
Yayayayayayayayayayay
If nyxl do well this year im going to literally shit my pants
No thats not an overexageration
devout path
Nyxl is really good I feel
noble nexus
the nyxl dps line could make me coom all day every with ease considering how fucking good they are
devout path
I want to see Boston as a top 3 team na
plush grail
still malding over how a team filled with rookies and like 2 good veterans might perform better
devout path
Just get sigma and boom top 3 team na
plush grail
than a fucking top tier team with star players on every role
devout path
still malding over how a team filled with rookies and like 2 good veterans might...
What team is that
plush grail
nyxl
earnest leaf
I'm gonna have a stroke if I have to keep seeing scrimbux trash
devout path
I don’t think nyxl will do that good nyxl is just criminally underrated
trail perch
Fucking Libero, haksal, mano, SBB
earnest leaf
because shd was better
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I mean u look at dragons
trail perch
Some of the best players of the game ever
earnest leaf
At arguably every role
plush grail
how can u fuck up with mano, haksal and libero ???
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and they had better coaching
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league just got better
trail perch
Fucking insane asylem
plush grail
players were kinda even imo, coaching difference was just fucking massive
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Pre season 3 if soemone said Fearless>mano
u can see it because fearless just won contenders
just like someone saying hey mag > fearless
trail perch
But thats not fucking mano level
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like u can see it
devout path
Isn’t it always a coaching diff
trail perch
Mano was the very top of MT in owl
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u wont really believe until u see
devout path
Shock has won with the best coach in the league twice in a row
trail perch
Mano was top 3, arguably top 1
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but its like a warm take
earnest leaf
Mano just has the ability to play all the MTs
plush grail
also mano hotba were always seen as a meh duo because they played together poorly
earnest leaf
Most other MT players didn't but were still better than mano at certain heroes
plush grail
anyone rate philly lower because they're gonna be the starting tanks?
earnest leaf
carpe/rascal/alarm will fuck
earnest leaf
valiant
devout path
Valiant
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that is the OBVIOUS exception
plush grail
on paper who doesnt have a stacked roster
the chinese team
earnest leaf
titans
devout path
Titans
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in apac
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also yeah dps line wise only like titans and valiant dont seem too good
like dps is so stacked in this league
devout path
Dps is stacked so much
plush grail
only teams with average dps lines are probably london and paris
devout path
Valentine deserves rookie of the year but there is so much new talent it will be so hard
If boston do well at all valentine is rookie of the year
devout path
Who is sbb on
devout path
Interesting
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because fuck it
plush grail
i feel he's gonna be a tracer specialist
devout path
But profit fits
plush grail
but sbb
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but profit
devout path
Profit
devout path
Only time sbb gets playtime is when profit needs to play something else imo
devout path
best tracer in the world
Striker
obtuse rivet
best tracer in the world
Me 😎 😎
buoyant coyote
Striker
I was about to say
Striker is the best tracer
Who is the best zen?
In your opinion
devout path
viol2t ez
trail perch
Alarm go BRRRRRRRRR
noble nexus
viol2t best zen that's an easy decision
tropic herald
devout path
So is Boston like top 3 na for rush
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I think they have nice synergy
hot onyx
HOW CAN YOU NOT WIN ANYTHING WITH THESE GUYS
IMT that’s how
Also maybe a hot take but if Uprising had a better tankline I would have them top 5 NA
sullen berry
If the general consensus is that atlanta will be clutch this year
Boston is like 3 levels above them on the clutch factor. Good fundamentals on this roster, unlikely going to field colourhex but if they do they have it in the bag
wanton birch
Call me crazy but I think chengdu is setting up to be an absolute super team from season 5 onwards
I really like how they’ve been handling their academy team and player development
They also have half a Chinese super team already and seem to have the most to gain from the rise of Chinese talent in tier 2
next mesa
they need superich
and lige
otherwise it will be incomplete
wish team cc got picked up like runaway as a whole time
buoyant coyote
Call me crazy but I think chengdu is setting up to be an absolute super team fro...
Maybe
tropic herald
Guys here me out, NY is going to be solidly the second best team in APAC this year
trail perch
yeah I agree
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Seoul #1 baby
tropic herald
You’re definitely going to be disappointed
next mesa
pffffft
devout path
Boston top 1 na
next mesa
Seoul #1 not even by a long shot
I think they are the only team that can take Ws against dragons
tropic herald
Have you guys watched Tactical Crouch from today
It was APAC power rankings with lots of insight from Yiska, def worth a listen
tropic herald
Far right