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sand violet
Like why do you think america is the best at basketball? They have the most support for it out of any country (while EU and china is rising) its the same thing for esports. Asia has such good esports teams cause they support it more than anywhere else
tawdry hamlet
Eu owns counter strike pro scene 
tawdry hamlet
they are nuts at cs
tawdry hamlet
NA has had bits and bobs of talent but we only ever go nuts at the pro controller games loll
Cod moment
tawdry hamlet
2011-2015 or so cod esports was nuts, 2013 when optic one the major in cod ghosts was so hype lmao I remember watching it I was like 12
won
idk why I said one
big brain
when nadeshot played professionally
what a time
I really want the NA dps talent to just play at a slightly higher level because some of the contenders dps in na recently has been actually pretty good
there are actually a few na contenders players at the moment who would probably be an upgrade for Vancouver 
willow moon
You say that as I just saw Phi's sorry attempt at shooting the enemy McCree 
tawdry hamlet
sand violet
yeahhhh tbh Idk about na dps
willow moon
But ye I'd very much like to see more women in pro OW. The reasons for why there ain't many are numerous tho
sand violet
I think its an upgrade just in the fact that like
I do not rate linkzr lol
teru better than most or all na dps
dalton would match most na t2 dps at least for his role
like sigma would be a good tracer specialist, speedily like a good echo specialist ig? lol and hydron a decent hitscan for a lower tier team
and some more here or there
but nothing above lower tier
outside of like sigma
tawdry hamlet
Speedily is a beast 
willow moon
I would place all my bets on Sigma
tawdry hamlet
Pet9l looked pretty good earlier, enjoyed the cree
sand violet
yeah if i had to bet on any na dps making it to owl sigma is my first bet
I dont think teams like titans would pay for hydron and hes not good enough for like an upper tier team
tawdry hamlet
it is strange how in one season the skill floor of owl went up like a ton since there is not enough money for players like muma and gravy and saucy
like if you had american tornado vs most of the off season cuts from s3 off season American tornado would probably destroy
gauntlet tornado that is
idk about current tornado
basically, I miss when it was monetarily viable to sign one trick players to owl teams 😦
now everyone has to be flexible af
willow moon
ye
Makes for interesting matches though/
tawdry hamlet
a year ago chipsa could get signed, now you have to be like a nuts t2 champion to even be considered
big bruh moments
sand violet
I mean chipsa was never signed cuz he was good anyways
tawdry hamlet
that is in fact true
lowkey crazy only 2 players from toronto last year are still in the league loll
actually 3 I forgot beast existed omegalul
willow moon
Well it's Toronto 
Still sad
trail perch
kariv logix beast?
Well techically agillities
and Nevix and Surefour retired so i wouldnt count them either
tropic herald
actually 3 I forgot beast existed omegalul
Kellex
tawdry hamlet
he left in may so I forgot about him
and tbf he almost wasn't still in the league if London hadn't scrapped their entire team loll
s3 London was such a tragedy 😦
trail perch
I mean they had mostly good pieces if you think about it
Glister, Sanguinar, bernar where all nutty
Highly was good
The only problem was rly Jmac and the other DPS
Schwi, babel, and although just weren't rly it
Come to think about it Jmac wasnt bad per say
Similar to s2 R0ar
tawdry hamlet
yeah that was what I was getting at, they had good pieces and just like kind of died
Chengdu beat them while doing their weird forced ball comp thing
in apac playoffs iirc
vagrant cargo
Schwi, babel, and although just weren't rly it
Altough was good
tepid ibex
Babel had a nasty widow at times
lyric yacht
quaint wren
when's the earliest we can start earning owl tokens
raw ermine
you could have earned some for watching the experimental tournament
but for now
the first day of OWL
so april 16th
plush grail
somebody picked ANS as their Rookie of the Year
Who are the most common ROTY and MVP picks?
I'd guess someone like violet for mvp and mag/muze for ROTY
limber pine
Decay and viol2t are popular MVP picks
roty is weird because people are picking non-rookies
Lots of votes for Mag
also lots of ppl picking Super for the Dennis award
which I find extremely humorous
next mesa
I voted for smurf
digital cloud
mag or gaga I think are pretty likely to be rookie of the year
next mesa
I think hes just a wholesome guy
digital cloud
them or pelican
raw ermine
same
digital cloud
second to who?
digital cloud
over glads eh
next mesa
its gonna be close
digital cloud
kind of a hot take there but I like it
digital cloud
it is decay isn't it
next mesa
I also think there's a minor tank gap but then people can make the same for glads about support
digital cloud
isn't washington's support line bad too?
simple spear
2016
next mesa
They had a very elaborate trial process
are they better than moth and shu of course not
digital cloud
personally I think Houston is going to be the best team, because I don't learn from experience
next mesa
but I just think justice is more explosive
digital cloud
imagine washington being second best na
that sounds crazy lol
I can't decide who will be the winner in apac
digital cloud
I am thinking chengdu looks pretty good
next mesa
I mean washington conna be top 4
gonna*
i dont think thats a hot take
pretty cold and reasonable take
if you ask me
next mesa
toronto?
digital cloud
toronto mad underrated
next mesa
okay thats like a pretty hot take
id say 70 degrees celsius
idk im more hype about their support line but can they keep up with dallas
or even mayhem
heesu na1st logix is like ayt
digital cloud
logix meh
the rest are pretty good imo
dallas just gonna fail due to dallas
mayhem looked underwhelming to me, but maybe they weren't trying too hard pre season
if not toronto top 4, then prob mayhem I guess
tropic herald
https://twitter.com/packing_10/status/1376763840411619330?s=21 p10 power rankings
next mesa
i can see it
raw ermine
is GNJ-slime that good?
mortal abyss
Gangnamjins underrated imo
Slime idk
We didn’t get to see many other of his heroes other than lucio
trail perch
Ok hot take, justice win overall
Look at their players
Out of everyone in the league, how many of them have playoff forms
We have profit and fits from last year
Now look at the justice
Ttuba came alive in playoffs, decay plays godly under pressure, same with MAG, and fury and closer have already won a season with playoff clutch
I think that just the playoff upgrade will make them win overall, but for now, 2nd NA seems pretty fair
Even though the support gap between them and glads is medium to large, WJ have the better tanks and DPS
raw ermine
you want the file lol?
next mesa
just image without text
raw ermine
cold and reasonable
next mesa
serious cold and reasonable cake
limber pine
Where are people putting Seoul this year?
mortal abyss
Ttuba came alive in playoffs, decay plays godly under pressure, same with MAG, a...
Closer played 1 map in playoffs and it was when London got 3-0ed by glads
trail perch
Shhhhh
We all remember the great bamboozle
Ok so dont count closer
But Bebe did well in 2019
and apparently is a amazing IGL
limber pine
@sullen berry keeps changing his answers smh
digital cloud
I don't know about most people, but I am expecting seoul to be decent
probably mid, high mid
trail perch
Most people are saying all over the place
Like last year
At NEXT they beat shanghai, lost to dallas, lost to shanghai
tropic herald
Seoul is still a wild card but theoretically they go positive this year at least
mortal abyss
and apparently is a amazing IGL
True true, I do agree they have an ok shot at winning but their support just feels too outclassed, if they can set up bebe and closer to literally just do their jobs and not feed they’ll do well, but if they want to win they’ll have to step up
mortal abyss
Seoul is still a wild card but theoretically they go positive this year at least
Having an actual Off Tank will help a ton
tropic herald
Teams they definitely beat are Charge NY and Philly imo then Spark and Chengdu and Shanghai are probably not wins
mortal abyss
You think they beat philly?
tropic herald
Yeah
mortal abyss
Huh
trail perch
I dont think they beat NY
mortal abyss
Is Astro’s on ping it’s very close but rascal carpe > profit fits imo
trail perch
NY might be really fycking good
mortal abyss
And I don’t think ping will affect Astro that much
Considering he’s on main support
Which is the one role I would put on ping if I had to
earnest leaf
Seoul is gonna 3-0 shd then lose 3-1 or some shit vs valiant
tropic herald
Anyways stan LeeJaeGon, gonna farm another year of APAC with Shanghai
stuck radish
not if he plays like he did vs shock in the final 4
fierce ferry
not if he plays like he did vs shock in the final 4
ye 😳
next mesa
that 1 game ruined ljg's whole season he has been popping
fierce ferry
he just should play like normal
maybe its just that he choked under that much pressure
mortal abyss
I mean it's clear that map shanghai were unsure on what to do and were uncoordinated
You can't put all the blame on ljg
feral zodiac
I can definitely put the blame on that rollout
raw ermine
raw ermine
logix can still destroy some nerds at the video game overwatch by blizzard entertainment
digital cloud
none at owl level
dude is like a shroud in a game full of zywoos and simples
like a muma amongst smurfs and mags
raw ermine
he's not THAT bad
digital cloud
ok, maybe more like . . .
. . .
. . .
no I think shroud amongst zywoos and simples is probably pretty close to accurate
digital cloud
that is pretty comparable to the muma and shroud one imo
it hurts that my favorite team has two of those comparisons
and outlaws fucking gave up smurf too
sure he would probably suck if he had stayed on outlaws
but it hurts
digital cloud
ans?
idk, many shock players are
the scouting they have is just beautiful
people doubt them a bit this year without ans but nero and glister are gonna fuck on shock
digital cloud
I think he was but wasn't as crazy as he is now
next mesa
he was like a known name but yeah
digital cloud
crusty just churns out stars man
well like we know glister
and nero
but they are likely to be much better after the shock treatment
earnest leaf
It will be hard for glister/nero/fdgod to flop
They all have solid foundations to be built up from
digital cloud
that and they have "super" "cashew" Delisi to learn from
possibly the best genji player of all time
right up there with Dalton
earnest leaf
Dalton genji truly is peak overwatch
digital cloud
the only man with a better blade than akm
worn falcon
i think i deleted dalton genji fast than nenne gravs
digital cloud
Danteh honestly probably benefited Houston more ironically
Smurf might have just languished there, but danteh kind of was their carry for a while
earnest leaf
Oh fun bit of history
There is an alternate reality in which shock had Oge on MT and super on OT
forest raven
cedar oasis
Shock is cock
mortal abyss
https://twitter.com/mikeyy_ow/status/1376929943502917637/photo/1 @cedar oasis how do you feel about this
Twitter
People buy too much scrimbux
raw ermine
I love how some ppl have florida above dallas and glads and mikeyy is like
"houstons better"
cedar oasis
That tier list hurts
plush grail
lmaoooo
i was about to mention how houston fucked in scrims last year
but legit flopped HARD
in any real game
this HAS to be a joke
tropic herald
You guys, the tier list hurts but it’s all scrimbux so it’s interesting but probably means nothing whenever the league starts
plush grail
just fun to see houston investing hard in scrimbux
just to force crimzo on ot or some shit
digital cloud
at least they aren't just getting wiped in scrims
I doubt it means much but it could be worse I suppose
I swear though, they put jjangu on ms or hydration on mt and I drop them for real
digital cloud
I think there were for a while
though scrims again don't mean all that much but
I don't know if the rumors were even true
cedar oasis
why is toronto that low
digital cloud
I would have thought you would comment more on where atlanta is but
balmy wolf
he did
digital cloud
I said more
digital cloud
though in hindsight yeah that was a bit vague
well, it would be funny if this was actually accurate
cedar oasis
its not gonna be
digital cloud
I would not mind houston being decent for once
well yeah, obviously
houston being good alone makes it invalid
plush grail
also wasn't crimzo complaining about fearless
a bit ago on twitter
about his monkey
cedar oasis
who
digital cloud
crimzo
cedar oasis
so no one important or good
cedar oasis
i cant get over the fact that they think ratlanta is top 3
plush grail
kai is good but like
digital cloud
scrimbux clouds the mind
plush grail
he's no way near good enough to pull atlanta all the way to the top
digital cloud
the love of scrimbux is the beginning of delusion - sideshow 4:20
plush grail
gator hawk masaa
digital cloud
iris is decent
digital cloud
masaa fell off a fair bit
next mesa
so mediocre
plush grail
yeah but like still
digital cloud
he was pretty good season 2, sad to see him this way
cedar oasis
their support line is meh at best
plush grail
the support competition is crazy af in owl
cedar oasis
massa is washed
plush grail
u have teams that are legit stacked with supports
tropic herald
Consider this: Bap Lucio good, masaa good Lucio Lr1s good Bap
tropic herald
Yeah, they probably won’t be this but rush is meta rn so it makes sense that Atlanta is doing good in it
digital cloud
true . . .
plush grail
paris eternal still last sadge
plush grail
daan > super
digital cloud
pretty much
plush grail
paris > sfs
digital cloud
none surpass their majesty
balmy wolf
gator cree scary tho
digital cloud
he has the flank down to a science
balmy wolf
gator > xzi
digital cloud
lol
digital cloud
can't argue with fax
thin relic
kaan very good no joking
balmy wolf
ye
digital cloud
ye
sullen berry
<@!200931208681619456> keeps changing his answers smh
And i will continue to, like i should have last year when Jerry wasn't going to get season MVP
cedar oasis
jerry was never going to get that
sullen berry
could you have said that 6 weeks before the season began?
cedar oasis
yes
sullen berry
ok ratlanta, who did you pick for 2020
sullen berry
I don't take that much stonks off scrims
but why wouldn't you challenge your perception based on this info
earnest leaf
Scrims said houston was pounding for playoffs meta
sullen berry
you can ignore this guy, since his leaks were dubious more times than halo
sullen berry
nah isn't that from bazzo's tweet
earnest leaf
cedar oasis
🤮
earnest leaf
To me these power rankings scream scrimbux or weird interpretations of rosters
sullen berry
gladiators over shock is more realistic than london over dallas
player power rankings are a lot harder to judge
cedar oasis
ratlanta i sbad
sullen berry
I remember when valiant stonks from day one spiked against dallas
6 Feb 2020 Predictions
cedar oasis
people make teir lists based on the teams they like
sullen berry
you have no idea how much I swerved at hearing Valiant doing well
cedar oasis
what the fuck
sullen berry
scrim data sucks for its inconsistency
sullen berry
Titans
cedar oasis
nvm
cedar oasis
i thought people learned afte xepher
cedar oasis
a wise man once said ratlanta is too high
sullen berry
Shu's money crew stonks have been good on me
imagine Valiant not below Guangzhou lol
season predictions in my NA I also have them high
crude sinew
well I just thought i'd change it up, everyone has them low
sullen berry
I expect SparkR to be livid when he's 18, with how much EU is holding him back
cedar oasis
why did you put london so high
sullen berry
no particular reason for london, right
like how you don't need a reason to put atlanta bottom
crude sinew
they did okay in steel series, they could pop off
sullen berry
might have SKEWED expectations
crude sinew
haha I am a glads fan yeah
thin relic
im very high on london this year
at least in the beginning of the year
also from what ive gathered they're scrimming a lot with BH and have those players ready to call up whenever?
sullen berry
infrastructure for EU players to make it into OWL has been a long term plan for a while now
it's finally coming together
I also think with network delay, they are far more comfortable connecting to other teams with ping advantage
this season it's going to be more consistent for both teams
they can match the ping to the server on both teams
NA teams who are used to having it much lower up can be screwed over
plush grail
Nice paragraph mr kenobi
sullen berry
ping diff for EU goes BRRRRR
it won't save paris, but it could matter when it comes to peak spitfire vs NA teams
digital cloud
hitscan iirc
balmy wolf
ah thanks
raw ermine
tracking hitscan
feral zodiac
Depends on the hero
next mesa
idk about fantasy league
feral zodiac
Cree xzi, ashe bqb, widow heesu
limber pine
technically xzi does
feral zodiac
Xzi isn't great at tracer
balmy wolf
lmoa
limber pine
that's why I said technically
feral zodiac
He does play it for dallas tho
limber pine
He would play it for Dallas yes
balmy wolf
unfortunately
feral zodiac
Bqb idk if he plays tracer
limber pine
That's going to be Dallas's issue if they can't have a good tracer
balmy wolf
i dont believe so
feral zodiac
And idk about heesu
balmy wolf
yeah...
feral zodiac
Didn't see him on anything other than widow sombra
balmy wolf
and is pelican/choizehwan able to play tracer
limber pine
Edison would play it
digital cloud
edison would yeah
balmy wolf
oh right
balmy wolf
ok
balmy wolf
any new rookies that are good on tracer?
limber pine
Edision's tracer was suprisingly good. I def don't remember it being like that.
digital cloud
Soon ™️
ye edison was underrated
uh, none that I can think of, but probably
mykaylee maybe?
balmy wolf
edison hard carried
limber pine
Assassin pretty good
balmy wolf
jimmy looked good in shanghai masters tourney but thats all i remember
kaneki*
i meant
digital cloud
oh yeah kaneki
limber pine
but WAS would play most certainly play Jerry/Decay in double hitscan
balmy wolf
yeah
tropic herald
any new rookies that are good on tracer?
Any of NY rookies
balmy wolf
oh yeah also true
limber pine
But rush comps certainly going to be played in May, no?
feral zodiac
Decay had a pretty good tracer
digital cloud
thought it started april
tropic herald
Unless there’s a patch or breakthrough
mortal abyss
Probably but i think we'll get at leasdt 1 balance ptch before apr 16
tropic herald
APAC still plays double bubble
limber pine
It's called the May Melee, but it starts in April
digital cloud
why call it that wtf
limber pine
Zarya/Winston
tropic herald
The tourney happens in May
feral zodiac
April Assclapping
limber pine
if APAC stay double bobble, and NA is rush, who knows how will get banned.
feral zodiac
So 2 tourneys without cree zarya and bap
limber pine
¯_(ツ)_/¯
feral zodiac
And 2 tourneys with
tropic herald
+25 hp wasn’t a joke buff ahaha
limber pine
yup
digital cloud
only a little bit
balmy wolf
ok
limber pine
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balmy wolf
anyone who has experience with fantasy leagues
limber pine
but the hero pools are random, so who knows if zarya/mccree will get pulled
nope not me
balmy wolf
what's generally better, offtank or flex supp
digital cloud
for what?
tropic herald
Aren’t the pools random but weighted
digital cloud
damage?
balmy wolf
points
limber pine
whoever plays the bap
balmy wolf
in the fantasy league
digital cloud
idk
limber pine
idk @tropic herald the article only says it's random
tropic herald
Last season I remember the higher playtime heroes got more tickets in the randomized
sullen berry
anyone who has experience with fantasy leagues
hit up the draftbuff rep whose been in my server for any questions about how it works!
Dannedd dinking on YAB
resorting to a sym teleport to capture hanamura A
cursive plover
Honestly just watching this yab v smc match makes me realize how fun watching t2 is
I have no idea who these players are (except the ex OWL) and it makes it even better. I don't know who's better than the other so I can root for anyone
sullen berry
well the painfully it hasn't always been this good
there is a pool of talent everywhere in the world
the problem is regionally the trend has always been go Korea, everyone else is too busy catching up
cursive plover
true
sullen berry
that's happening less often and also token drops are a thing
so there are very few people actively participating, so why not embrace it?
sullen berry
yeah you couldn't say that about china 3 years ago man
digital cloud
true
sullen berry
china was slipping between the cracks
digital cloud
china caught up
cursive plover
After watching Korea earlier today I think EU is more entertaining honestly
atleast for now
sullen berry
only with Lucky Future which was a roster of all korean talent dominating
in a chinese region 😅
balmy wolf
thanks dude
sullen berry
same went for the B-tier Korean teams that couldn't break into Open Division Korea, Pacific was available to them
cursive plover
I lowkey want to go sleep but I want my hours and this is becoming way too interesting
tawdry hamlet
Loll do I see Crimzo getting defensive again on twitter 
sullen berry
yeah he's saying outlaws deserve to cash in those scrimbucks
tawdry hamlet
https://twitter.com/Denzel_OW/status/1376969903173951489?s=19
Never forget he has 4 gold medals bro
https://twitter.com/Crimzo/status/1304877530101551108?s=19
tropic herald
nico...
Shu 
cursive plover
solars high noon holy crap
mortal abyss
https://twitter.com/EskayOW/status/1376987449411440641 does this go here
Twitter
naru is
just
dying
first
every fight
sullen berry
Finnish DPS Paavo "tipping the scales" Solar Ulmanen
sullen berry
YAB have really looked slippery from the onset, something that coming from overwatch league can't fix
better to crack early and find that motivation again to crush it
sullen berry
T2 has been a pain to follow
but recently my work schedule fits around EU contenders more than KR
dry mesa
yeah its hard to follow
find all the info and streams, and then they don't have it all in a central location
sullen berry
well that's probably the nature of broadcasting rights even on a contenders level
china and Korea can't stream to english, they're focused on their home markets and making quality local product
willow moon
Hey can someone pass me the link to the Contenders stream in the official website plz
I lost it 😅
sullen berry
here's how I remember it
Overwatch league
language-country
then contenders
put it all together and now you get
willow moon
Ohhh
Cheers
reef trout
hey guys is there a owl game you would recommend that had a good mercy recently
sullen berry
like a game with any mercy played?
next mesa
sullen berry
Neptuno really is the player of the day because that wasn't even him [at his best]... He wasn't supposed to play the match but toughed out his totontiolis, high fever, and the kidney stone he still has. This man is still consistently putting in the finest of work.
@reef trout
reef trout
yeah
willow moon
I was gonna mention Moth but sometimes he lets his team die in favour of kills so idk if I'd recommend that
reef trout
oh okay thanks
next mesa
I was gonna mention Moth but sometimes he lets his team die in favour of kills s...
what
when
reef trout
i mean its just to learn from tbh
next mesa
also moth is a cracked mercy player
willow moon
Just sometimes boosting a DPS instead of going for heals but I may be biased I'm not fond of Moth
sullen berry
yeah if you're learning a hero, some analytical content is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_ai-jsV76A&ab_channel=Jayne
no matter how many years and patches ago this was made
Jayne's analysis was exceptional
one video for each map - easiest way to follow when it doesn't talk much about mercy play is follow the rezzes, see if it won them the teamfight or not
next mesa
Just sometimes boosting a DPS instead of going for heals but I may be biased I'm...
yeah that's actually how you play mercy get value by damage boosting the dps in the playoffs
like ljg averaged way more heals but
willow moon
But?
next mesa
he trash
tawdry hamlet
the meta moving to rush again after like 6 months of ball is so hypercatjam
we love lucio
whoa who talkin trash about feedjaegon in here
but no Leejaegon is both one of the best and worst main supports in the league right now lmao
like top 3 on his heroes but sometimes feeds loll
sullen berry
we need another video like "rein is not a main tank" with LHCloudy
tawdry hamlet
I want to see less moth mercy this season, I felt like every single series was just watching moth mercy for a bit there
he is nuts at mercy but I want to see his other stuff besides brig and mercy loll
praying the meta doesn't change so we get that sweet sweet moth lucio
more so than that I am hoping the meta doesn't change because shock plus FDGod on the lucio will be cracked
next mesa
we never got to see moth brig because thats his weak hero
its like even right now skewed is signed because his brig is so good
yes moth lucio very nice very nice
next mesa
fielder????
raw ermine
fielder is FS lol
next mesa
if u mean fdgod brig
tawdry hamlet
I meant Jecse, I get him and fielder and rapel confused on who the main support is of the three loll
trail perch
Jecse is good at every MS
Mercy, Brig and Lucio
His Bap was better than Rawcus but that’s not a milestone
willow moon
Whyyyy would you do such a pretty counter shatter only to do that terrible pin
wtf is Helv doing
rich bear
dry mesa
imagine liking the outlaws
digital cloud
😦
dry mesa
thats joke. i actually like them
tawdry hamlet
tawdry hamlet
Anyone else wonder why some teams that dominate don't stay the same, like American Tornado were untouchable last season and they still swapped out some players and it makes me wonder why since they didn't really upgrade or downgrade
It's contenders so I doubt it's too expensive, I know in real sports people want more money because they're playing better and salary caps come in etc. But I doubt contenders players are like going to give up a team for money loll
Rhyno looks so uncomfortable in rein brawl vs Lhcloudy
willow moon
I'm impressed at how Odissey can hold up without him
willow moon
I was wondering lmao
earnest leaf
Twitter
tawdry hamlet
We stan Yeh
Also kind of nuts that noble dumped their whole t2 roster and sold majestados so they could add a pubg mobile team loll
Forgot about that for a while 
willow moon
Obey started out so strong wtf happened
sullen berry
Shedding the players they couldn't retain I guess
Hadn't realise they got a new dps as well
willow moon
Huh I don't remember them playing just now
sullen berry
I'm not watching atm, at work
tropic herald
if rush stays good dallas should just force doom rush
raw ermine
doom rush means rush is doomed
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zinc rover
Odissey won against Obey 2-1
hey where do I watch matches?
willow moon
zinc rover
Thank you Tf
quartz cairn
Have they announced next month's skins
devout path
Valentine is so good
trail perch
I just realized that if the current meta was in owl rn, Dallas would actually be cracked
I mean rein Dva
Mei Cree
Bap lucio
That put everyone on characters they are amazing on
Especially the Doha Mei and Xzi Crew
tawdry hamlet
plush grail
I just realized that if the current meta was in owl rn, Dallas would actually be...
and then we switch to a ball, tracer meta
and they struggle
tawdry hamlet
I enjoy certain metas allowing teams that get dumpstered on to shine occasionally
ie Seoul
sullen berry
Yup, Seoul
If bows a time for the star power to correlate with results, this is their season once again to prove it
prime fulcrum
add me for derank
next mesa
Hey hey hey shut the fuck up
hot onyx
I second this message
plush grail
I pretend I do not see
plush light
Anyone wonder how bqb lives? He plays at fucking 800 dpi 2.4 in game.
sterile bay
Anyone wonder how bqb lives? He plays at fucking 800 dpi 2.4 in game.
Thats not that bad
Jjonak has 2.0 900 dpi
but yeah it's low
just make monke jump behind him then he cant turn 🤣
tropic herald
gigantic mousepads
plush light
He uses the qck large size. And 30 zoom for widow and 60 for ashe. 3.1 sens for tracer, 4.5 for genji
plush grail
first owl player to use a controller when???
plush grail
something like rein would be possible right
plush grail
aim assist
feral zodiac
a worse player than muma, boink, or carcar
Taimou winston
fierce ferry
hey guys, ik it isn't that serious, but which league team has the best skins in your opinion?
raw ermine
they're all in the same style for the most part, so honestly its just up to you, what colours you like the most. I like toronto, san francisco, and florida's skins
tropic herald
next mesa
seoul very accurate
next mesa
he gotta this season doe 16 games only
feral zodiac
hey guys, ik it isn't that serious, but which league team has the best skins in ...
Mayhems are nice
'Exciting rookies and good veterans'
Seoul below r like wtf
digital cloud
that description fits many teams
digital cloud
isn't that basically like doTerra and all that wacky pseudo science nonsense
sullen berry
a quick search basically sums it up
they sell something that nobody wants, so they market it out to a chinese audience through esports
digital cloud
if no one wants it how did they afford the team
seems to me that == pseudo science claptrap
though I suppose I could look it up
ah yes, and mlm
sullen berry
it's a three year contract, which is only a year longer than the owl x fanatics deal
digital cloud
while I hesitate to advocate criminalizing many things I am quite appalled such businesses continue to thrive
however the charge is pretty cool so I suppose ignoring their patron is something I can do
sullen berry
i mean the charge don't have to give me anything, we're not 100% their target market for their sponsors anyway
digital cloud
true
sullen berry
so i find i kinda weird right, if a sponsor is directly getting in the way of esports then sure that's a problem
digital cloud
I usually tend to ignore who sponsors are even if it is like, Nestle or something, but my mom gets caught by mlms so I have a special hatred for them
but I can usually separate that from more pressing concerns so
go charge
sullen berry
not the same MLM, but a cousin joined one part time to get the wages paid, doesn't end up being great for everyone and people get promised different stuff out of it
digital cloud
pretty much the only people that can succeed with them are people that are already business savy
pretty misleading on the whole
basically pyramid schemes in all but name
sullen berry
Like amazon partners schemes are no different
digital cloud
That is another can of worms, but at the very least Amazon’s whole business model isn’t based on that
Anyway, this has gone a bit off topic
balmy wolf
ah yes
sullen berry
I'm wondering if EU has seen a resurge this year not only because of Noukky's twitlonger giving people info about Contenders
balmy wolf
the daily dose
sullen berry
but also the timing after flash ops ended last weekend
a ratlanta comment a day
keeps the lads at bay
cedar oasis
yes
sullen berry
@cedar oasis plot twist you have them ranked top 3 and want to manip odds
cedar oasis
no
sullen berry
yup
cedar oasis
thats gross
balmy wolf
actual big brain time
balmy wolf
he buys the atl stonks alone
sullen berry
nah I'm satisfied with your dislike of atlanta
there was a guy who left a server because they were in denial that Guangzhou isn't trash
cedar oasis
i didnt know Guangzhou fans existed
plush grail
yeah, who would want to be one of those
nobody
sullen berry
sullen berry
if there are fans of minecraft player turned OWL pro who also played for the shock
of course they exist outside our bubble
what the
balmy wolf
danteh is cool
tawdry hamlet
The more I watch lullsish the more I'm reminded why ellivote found a team and he didn't 😐, he's so mid tier it hurts to watch
tropic herald
neither of these teams impress me
tawdry hamlet
Yeah neither ran rush/brawl super well compared to what we've seen the last few days
New Kings played like shit
Compared to their norm
earnest leaf
Twitter
raw ermine
oh ffs
tawdry hamlet
digital cloud
how is this ow relevant?
is it thought that people from ow will be filling the holes?
mortal abyss
tawdry hamlet
shock 
Young and Beautiful 😍 time to watch nico 😍😍
I didn't realize young and beautiful had 4 ex owl players and they're like actually good players lol I fell asleep for yab last game
cedar oasis
shock is cock
next mesa
yab has been doing like okay though only
mortal abyss
yab is very fun to watch
syca has impressed me a lot
and boombox shown why he deserves owl
dry mesa
https://twitter.com/SFShock/status/1377342433650827264?s=20 🙂
🏳️⚧️
mortal abyss
tropic herald
One: TransRights Two: https://twitter.com/lagladiators/status/1377286095608627200?s=21
This background so pretty
devout path
shock and glads best team
digital cloud
probably
next mesa
I highballed the points too much
I said 22 points for the best team idk anymore
actually wait if it counts tourney wins
tropic herald
22 points would mean the team is like 16-0 and only wins two tourneys and doesn’t do good on the other ones
Wait that’s kinda realistic with 4 tourneys
next mesa
I dont think any team is going 16-0
might win 2 tourneys though like dragons
I think shock is gonna have a few Ls beginning and dragons gonna lose to seoul like 1-2 times
tropic herald
I’m super hyped for Shocks v Glads which is the second game of the season
next mesa
when is it
next mesa
yeah mb I was asking for like the time hour
actually im jsut being lazy
okay I cant find it 💀
okay wait 3pm est
so about 5pm would be the shock glads match
digital cloud
from what I have seen it looks pretty likely that stand1 plays most every time
sullen berry
stand1 anything else is fine though
hot onyx
Stand1 winston is actually one of the weakest in the league idk who you’re thinking about
digital cloud
Forgot contenders was still on
Man contenders looks so much more sophisticated and high level now
Even in na
devout path
im fine with stand1 ball and orisa i hope fusions is played more for this meta rn
next mesa
But why doe
stand1 is just better at everything winston rein included he just got benched by fearless on those heroes no shame
His winston looked pretty good dor
Doe
tawdry hamlet
Lol my pick em form sucks ass
I went safe and picked shock for everything and decay for mvp
next mesa
I have a feeling that shock is gonna lose this season and then super is gonna come back next season
tawdry hamlet
I think they'll win hero pool tourneys easy at least
But lowkey think Philly has it this year with rascal and carpe And shockwave
Along with a top 3 support line
noble nexus
I'm never putting faith in philly to come higher than 2nd place in anything
I just don't think I can bring myself to do it
tawdry hamlet
I think Washington is going to be the disappointing team this year or maybe florida since they just kind of exist loll
willow moon
Florida is always a solid choice for disappointment
tawdry hamlet
Florida literally gets like top 5-6 just by existing but since atlanta boston and washington all buffed up that 5-6 spot battle will be bigger
willow moon
The only player I like from Florida is Saya
tawdry hamlet
Well I guess since no valiant it's more a 4th place battle between atlanta justice and Florida imo
Since boston probably won't have it this year
Atlanta look surprisingly solid atm
tepid ibex
Including Atlanta in a 4th place battle?? I’d take Boston or Toronto over Atlanta ngl
trail perch
Including Justice in a battle?
Most rankings have them at third overall
And second in NA
devout path
Atlanta seem great
tepid ibex
Besides Ir1s and the dps, I think they’re bottom tier na
Toronto has a better support, tank and a possible greater dps line
I can see teams like Paris and London sneaking wins out of Atlanta
next mesa
Idk about dps
tepid ibex
Toronto’s or Atlanta’s?
next mesa
I think atlanta better
Pelican best dps talent probably out of contenders and a top tier hitscan oh yeah also edison
I don't know about logix
tepid ibex
Depends if Atlanta coaching ruins him
trail perch
Gator/hawk prob the second worst tankline in owl
Next too nvm, showcheng and silver3
tepid ibex
Masaa is definitely a bottom tier main support
tawdry hamlet
Pelican Edison Kai are a cracked dps line and in brawl gator and hawk can at least suffice. They've looked good in the tournaments so far
Washington I think Jerry and the supports are weak
I don't think third na with the level of competition this year
tropic herald
According to the scrimbux exchange Atlanta kinda popping rn
sullen berry
Pelican clutch factor is just omnipresent with atlanta
balmy wolf
idk how everyone believes that gator and hawk are the worst tanks in owl
like what did they do last year to be shit on
sullen berry
channelling @cedar oasis
time to make your case, buddy - I also think gator and hawk aren't the worst tanks we have in OWL rn
balmy wolf
im waiting for him xD
sullen berry
yeah he's out for blood
not attacking you personally, just the players and the coaches and the fans and the community... /s
balmy wolf
but brawl double shield and poke
gators ball is pretty good from what ive seen
we didnt see much ball
although i do think its easier for him to perform with pelican and edison following up
tawdry hamlet
I like Punk more than Hawk
Although we didn't get to see much punk since the whole team turbofed every fight
balmy wolf
lol
sullen berry
there's a long dropoff when I say that they aren't bad
they don't have much beyond their potential, like colourhex
balmy wolf
it just feels like they get shit on cause the team sucked last year
sullen berry
and I'll continue to say it - maybe it's because Atlanta bombed during online format
balmy wolf
after atl acad they got called top 5 tankline
forest raven
Myunbong can actually stay alive for more than 5 seconds a fight this year with Faith on the team
sullen berry
balmy wolf
sephy and dogman did say they were a lot of comp issues
balmy wolf
but that was with hero pools
i just dont see how they are so bad when they played double shield into poke meta
or played edison on the genji last minute
tawdry hamlet
Hard mtd last year with boston imo, jerry is passable to at least beat teams like titans but Halo wasn't great and fusions can't stay alive to save his life. They also kept running mei comps with chex even though his best hero is ashe omegalol
balmy wolf
or tried to play saucy on flex dps when hes a hitscan player
tawdry hamlet
Halo is on saints in collegiate and contenders now and he's really not good
Loll saucy atlanta Moment
Saucy tire!
balmy wolf
that was so sad to watch
balmy wolf
i think boston is a solid team now but i doubt they gonna be great
tawdry hamlet
Literally up by 1 and give them the easy route 66 trying to play junk sym and then lose last second to a recontest on busan downtown lmao
tawdry hamlet
I could see that
balmy wolf
yeah
balmy wolf
valentine
tawdry hamlet
But decent upgrades all around I'd at least put them above houston and london and Paris and titans
balmy wolf
i think hes their best player
tawdry hamlet
Main tank and Main support ugprades were their main priority and I'm glad they got those sorted
Then the dps upgrades is just extra icing on the cake 🍰🎂
balmy wolf
jerry is better than im37 imo
tawdry hamlet
Can't believe Halo got into overwatch league last year lmao
https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Halo
Literally the bottom of the league second to carcar
Jerry is mid but he's a consistent mid
forest raven
Unlucky
tawdry hamlet
Surprised nobody wanted stitch or libero 