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forest raven
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Taking that stance to its logical extreme you could say if you threw a bunch of masters on shock they'd number 1 PepeLa

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Very smooth brain take from people

radiant lake
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Sm00th

plush grail
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wtf is all this about

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how is she suddenly owl material after hitting #1 on ranked lmao

earnest leaf
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If she gets good results and stands out and does well in owl trials she can get on a team

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but iirc contenders wise she isn't a standout atm

plush grail
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just weird how she's being called NA's top support

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after hitting rank 1

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while a 2x champ like moth still exists

forest raven
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Aren't they talking about MS's not in OWL

plush grail
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I really dont know what this person is thinking lmao

fierce ferry
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hey guys is the contenders page down

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cus for me it says "error 404 page not found"

mortal abyss
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Blizzard finally killed t2 once and for all😭

feral zodiac
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Being avg at best in contenders/hitting rank 1 on ladder =/= owl spot

fierce ferry
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I need that rein skin TwT

fierce ferry
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Did they say anything about fixing the website?

karmic grotto
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Today is KR?

fierce ferry
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Ye

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It was moved too

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Like I think the matches from sunday were moved to today be they had scrim footage of the other team

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It’s back on!

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The site

karmic grotto
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i see error

fierce ferry
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Is the stream on yet

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On yt or the site

karmic grotto
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site

fierce ferry
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but the stream isn't even on YT yet?

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and the site 404'd on me again O_O

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😦

fierce ferry
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Why tho

vagrant cargo
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Idk wjy everyone blows the aspen thing that big out of proportion

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Dridro hit 4.700 with mercy in goats iirc

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And he is barely owl level too id say

sullen berry
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that's just what you call selective journalism

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for sports, this is nothing short of a surprise - it got a reaction out of people, right?

raw ermine
sullen berry
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saw this and thought about it

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he's not going to have the luxury of free time during the regular season

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might as well cool off now when he really needs it

fierce ferry
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why is he on hiatus?

sullen berry
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have a read

fierce ferry
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so he had stress bc of the recording if i read it right?

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i hope he takes all the time he needs

sullen berry
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yeah

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i'd say it's meant to be ambiguous enough to wonder what might be causing it

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but not too specific to pry into his mental health

fierce ferry
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also ik this is a bit off topic but was the contenders stream cancelled?

next mesa
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It's called aspen is female

sullen berry
fierce ferry
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oh i thought sundays matches were moved

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are there any contenders matches this week?

sullen berry
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well the contenders website seems to be down

fierce ferry
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Ye

digital cloud
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what is this about aspen?

sullen berry
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you should really sub to the Overwatch Contenders channel so you can follow AU tomorrow

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scroll up, we just talked about it

raw ermine
digital cloud
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wondering why aspen isn't on a team?

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hmmm, come to think of it, why isn't <insert contenders player> in owl . . .

raw ermine
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*<insert NA contenders player>

digital cloud
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good point

feral zodiac
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Redshell hit rank 1, why not owl?

balmy wolf
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if shes not in owl shes not good enough

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simple as that

forest raven
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Libero and tobi aren't in owl

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Flawed argument

balmy wolf
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lol

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if they deserve a spot theyll play in the league

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they are better than some players in owl

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but they fit in no team

karmic grotto
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maybe washed up

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libero has not been getting much play time

idle forge
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Just feels like libero doesnt really have a role anymore. His previous seeking point was flexibility and versatility, but nowadays, its all about specialization. He’s good on a ton of heros, but not great on enough

karmic grotto
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ye

next mesa
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how is nowadays about specialization

forest raven
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Bruh what

next mesa
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nowadays is about flexibility

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u literally got it opposite

forest raven
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Kevster and Profit are two of the most hyped players

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They play everything

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Fleta

next mesa
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pelican

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leave

forest raven
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Eileen

next mesa
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its all about literally being able to play hitscan and projectile

forest raven
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Fuck, smurf was playing off tank last season

trail perch
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Ok ig this is a hot take, but aspen is really fucking good and def deserves a spot in the league. Ive been watching some S1, and I would take her over like Fire, maybe massaa, maybe Kellex, prob highbee

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etc.

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Shes better than the MS on the bottom teams

next mesa
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I mean

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id take tobi over anamo but

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

trail perch
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Oh yeah Anamo is very very eh

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Like last year it seemed that he just didnt do anyting

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Nothing bad, but nothing good

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The definition of eh

plush grail
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Anamo is a background character

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Does his job well, no flashy plays

next mesa
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idk man i would rather have slime

balmy wolf
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pepega

next mesa
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perhaps

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I need that feed in the backline ms

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I like jjonak ana's mechanics the best no cap

digital cloud
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I mean, if we go off of deserve, there are probably some very good players that "deserve" to be in owl, but don't work with the team that would take them well enough, or the team can't pay for it, or whatever

next mesa
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diya

digital cloud
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and while aspen may be better than masaa, fire, kellex, etc

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there are probably players better than them and her that "deserve" it more

plush grail
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masaa has been on atlantsa for a while

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kellex has synergy with the players

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even if aspen was better at the game

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do they wanna risk it

balmy wolf
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they would

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if aspen was better

digital cloud
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better player doesn't always mean better for you

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fissure was a god player but no one wants the guy now

balmy wolf
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they are not fissure

plush grail
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fissure is a bad example tbh because as far as i know we dont know what his plans are right

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did he every retire properly or say anything about wanting to join a team

digital cloud
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I don't recall, but wasn't he sort of not wanted for a while before the vancouver debacle due to being hard to deal with anyway?

plush grail
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for someone as skilled as fissure

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people would still want him probably

trail perch
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I think fissures a rly bad example

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Bc fissure isnt meant to fit a team

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The team is meant to fit him

tight snow
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Have they said how refunds for the Sintraa Zarya skin will work?

kind ridge
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yes

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you have to contact them

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and ask for refund

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they prolly will

tight snow
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Where?

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Where do i contact them i mean

kind ridge
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idk

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where do we contact them

raw ermine
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@kind ridge @tight snow
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/how-to-request-a-league-token-refund-for-the-“alien”-overwatch-league-mvp-skin/594262

Overwatch Forums
How to Request a League Token Refund for the “Alien” Overwatch Leag...

From now until April 9, 2021, Overwatch players who purchased the “Alien” Overwatch League MVP skin have the option to request a refund. Once your request is processed, you will receive 200 League Tokens and the skin will be removed from your collection. To request a refund, contact Blizzard Customer Support. Our Customer Support team will help...

kind ridge
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ok thanks

raw ermine
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I, personally, am waiting so see how good the fleta MVP skin is

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shouldn't it be released today?

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or announced/shown

kind ridge
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i think at the beginning of s4 would be nice

next mesa
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soon TM

karmic grotto
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I see a way to abuse this request thing. Getting my money back, and I can buy the hog skin

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ez

kind ridge
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ummm thats not really cheating the system

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u get the tokens back then buy hog skin

next mesa
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I mean they wouldnt really care why

raw ermine
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yeah that's not cheating

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I really don't think blizzard cares what you do w/ the tokens

kind ridge
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its like making an exchange at a store

karmic grotto
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i never said it was cheating lmao, where did he got that from

raw ermine
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they already got the money/time watched

kind ridge
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you said you could abuse the request thing same thing lmao

karmic grotto
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it's not?

balmy wolf
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skins are out

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echo skin pog

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i love the angel part

mortal abyss
willow moon
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3-day old news but the alien Zarya skin can now be refunded due to all the Sinatraa shit

digital cloud
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Not a bad skin

kind ridge
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sick

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i thought it would be another one of his signature heroes like tracer

mortal abyss
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Echo suits him better

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tbh

desert breach
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Alien zarya should get a melee dmg boost

balmy wolf
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why?

desert breach
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uhh, google sinatraa and look at recent news

mortal abyss
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Hog skin released aswell

tawdry hamlet
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I swear dafran is 12

balmy wolf
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yeah and whats the joke

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melee dmg boost?

desert breach
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smh hitting his ex

balmy wolf
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he didnt hit her

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emotional abuse

desert breach
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I saw some saying "physical at times"

tawdry hamlet
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Honestly

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The echo skin imo looks kind of shit compared to previous MVP skins lmao

balmy wolf
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alien skin was ass

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wdym

next mesa
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nah

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skin wise it was banger

tawdry hamlet
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Idk I'm just not a huge fan

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raw ermine
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Both were pretty cool IMO

next mesa
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yeah I like it

olive owl
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People, question: OW League starts April 16th, will we be able to watch streamings to earn tokens per hour like last OW LEague ?

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also, I have 265 free tokens left from watching streamings, should I get roadhog or echo ?

feral zodiac
raw ermine
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tokens should be available same as last year
as for the skins, your choice, I personally like the echo more,

olive owl
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tyy sado aim

tawdry hamlet
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I get that his schtick is being a villain like character but recently dafran has not been it chief

plush grail
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He has never been it

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He's always been a pos

earnest leaf
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This is the last mvp skin they'll be doing

worn falcon
raw ermine
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Last time???!!!

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Why?

mortal abyss
raw ermine
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I guess the sinatraa controversy shook them...

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I really wish they could do something else

plush grail
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probably just not worth the pain

digital cloud
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way to incentivize doing well blizzard

shadow quarry
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How does one start an e-sports team

mortal abyss
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pay blizzard 50,000,000 USD 🙂

shadow quarry
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Great thanks

mortal abyss
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Jokes aside, are you looking to create your own overwatch team to compete in events/leagues?

shadow quarry
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Yeah

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I just switched to PC just cause

digital cloud
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go to team recruitment

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not relevant to this channel

plush grail
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start in open division i guess

shadow quarry
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Had this idea (once I’m better at pc) to make a team

shadow quarry
plush grail
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also fr

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the echo skin and hog skin

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both 🔥

digital cloud
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too bad blizzard never doing it again

craggy night
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Does anyone know why the ow conteders page isnt working?

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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dafran and sinatraa

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were always meh

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good skill wasted on horrible people

raw ermine
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give that skill to McGravy and Custa

plush grail
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nah

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sideshow and bren

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imagine if somoene like bren could widow diff diem

wanton birch
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why tf are they getting rid of one of the best things from owl

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fuck sake man

quartz cairn
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more mvp skins ples

digital cloud
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one dude fucking it up shouldn't ruin it for the other guys

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assuming that is why they are stopping it

next mesa
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I need more mvp skins

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I'm gonna buy fleta one

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Maybe

quartz cairn
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so i dont blame them hoenstly

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mouffin/dreamkazper/whoever that guy was who had like 3 gfs/sinatraa

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effect

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uhh

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didnt some guangzhou charge player have 2 gfs too

digital cloud
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Wdym, only jay was an mvp with an alleged wrongdoing

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The other ones don’t have that

quartz cairn
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what if the same thing happens again

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i dont agree with them cancelling the MVP skins cause of this incident

digital cloud
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Every group of people statistically has assholes

quartz cairn
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but i guess they gotta be careful

quartz cairn
digital cloud
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I can see why you would want to avoid making skins for a group of ex cons

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Making it for mvps that maybe end up being assholes is another kettle of fish entirely

quartz cairn
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wait how many mvps have we had

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3 right

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tbh i dont think they shouldve taken away MVPs forever cause of what happened

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but they had a reason to

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but i think another skin compensation would be good though

digital cloud
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People have reasons for many dumb things

quartz cairn
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i dont think removing it was dumb

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cause they definitely had a reason to remove it

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i just hope they do something about it though

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like a different event instead of MVP skins then

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maybe rookie skins

digital cloud
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They had a reason to want to allow people to refund one skin, they realistically won’t need to keep doing it in the future unless the league really goes down hill

quartz cairn
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well lets be honest more stuff is definitely gonna pop out

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we arent even playing games and scandals are happening

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but in the end assuming theyre stopping it cause of the sinatraa incident, its just an example of how one shitty ass person can ruin it for everyone

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so dont be the shitty person

worn falcon
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is a PR pain in the ass tbh, so is more easy to no do it again

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refunding, remodeling the skin and be ready for the horde of angry people

quartz cairn
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sad cause they couldnt really control anything

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they had no idea what he was doing nor could they prevent it

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sucks that we all gotta suffer

earnest leaf
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Means we'll never get a Rein mvp skin ZenyattaCry

sleek finch
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Rein mvp skin would be awesome

tough orbit
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Will Rienheart's Overwatch League skin come back? I wanna buy it.

gaunt acorn
glossy grail
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has the sinatraa and cleoh ordeal had any new developments

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sinatraa said he had the full recording and then he never said anything again

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they takin it to court?

raw ermine
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we aren't supposed to discuss it in here, mods dislike it, but nothing new has happened since

glossy grail
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ah mb

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didn't know

indigo rover
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Hi I’m new to overwatch, how do you earn league tokens? And is it possible for me to earn enough to buy one of the skins?

gaunt acorn
raw ermine
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check pins

balmy wolf
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Watch league to get tokens

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Takes a bit to get a skin but it's not an unreasonable time

raw ermine
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OWL is gonna be on in less than a month

gaunt acorn
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the skins will be gone in a matter of weeks

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you'll have to purchase tokens to get them, unfortunately

balmy wolf
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I'm bad at remembering team names, but I've got the gold+black bap skin with a gold gun and it looks sick

gaunt acorn
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seoul dynasty

balmy wolf
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Yeee, they're great

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Also nice they happen to have the most aesthetic colors

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The old Sanfransico Shock, I think it was, looked kinda funny on rein. I regret not getting that

next mesa
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Seoul gang

worn falcon
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sbb leading seoul

next mesa
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sure sure

sullen berry
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This is totally worth refunding the zarya skin, kinda weird they don't want to extend it until the start of the OWL season

chrome cove
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Why do console players dont give a damn about going on comms? Is it the same on pc? It honestly feels like ps4 people dont want to learn to play the game.

digital cloud
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Not relevant to this discussion

hidden vault
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balmy wolf
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When abouts does the owl start up?

quartz cairn
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like 2nd-ish week i think?

balmy wolf
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ah nice, really soon

tawdry hamlet
smoky plume
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I dont have any league tokens so I looked up how to get them, I downloaded the app and clicked on schedule and it says something is wrong, can someone tell me the schedule? Or whatever?

bright idol
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any update about the sinatraa drama?

tawdry hamlet
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Nope

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And the league season hasn't started yet so there's no official schedule on the app yet I think since they always update the app late af like it's a total afterthought

craggy sandal
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the schedule is on the app fully updated

tawdry hamlet
thin dune
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can i get league tokens by watching the experimental tournament?

plush grail
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Don't think so

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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Only a super small amount of people will have tokens left over for this

thin dune
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oofies

plush grail
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Tokens were super dodgy and I just about managed to get the all star skins

thin dune
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yea me too

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but ig its not a big deal for people who uses dollars

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i gotta pay around 70-90 TL

plush grail
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How does that make any difference

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah it sucks for students and such where that's 2 hours of work for two little cosmetic items OmegaLUL

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But I get why obviously it's a ton of work to design and do the art

plush grail
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With this skin I legit don't mind paying

thin dune
plush grail
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By far the best hog skin yet

plush grail
thin dune
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nevermind that im gonna buy it anyways

plush grail
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Okay

sullen berry
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Talk all you want about the roadhog skin

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The echo skin is basically one skin with the combination of the All stars mercy and lucio skin

idle gorge
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when's owl begin

plush grail
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22 days

idle gorge
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oh 22 days thx kenobi

sullen berry
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You don't know Stannington?

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Thanks finally someone got the reference in this server

plush grail
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echo skin is amazing too but like i barely play echo

sullen berry
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I've grown to learn her kit more

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She's so weird in quickplay

idle gorge
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i'm going to get both

sullen berry
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Me too, once I forfeit my alien skin

idle gorge
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so that's another €20 for blizzard from me

sullen berry
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:))) 200 skins for 1 superior MVP skin

plush grail
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i mostly play genji, pharah, hog and rein

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so whenever i see a echo i just mald

idle gorge
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the best owl skin i have rn is the rein one

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maybe zen-nakji, oh wait those are the two i have

sullen berry
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Nothing really wrong with the Sinatraa Zarya skin, it just didn't do much in game for me

plush grail
idle gorge
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and i have some toronto skins but i don't count those toward it

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Zarya Alien is good

plush grail
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i legit only got it because i wanted a special owl skin

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but then stuff happened and it just ruined the skin

idle gorge
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the best owl skin is the brig goats one

sullen berry
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But now if you've collected them all, there are 13 different exclusive skins from OW League (?)

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Tracer, Genji, Lucio, mercy, DVa, Rein, Zen, Winston , Doom, Zarya, Roadhog, Echo and everyone's favourite, GOAT Brig

plush grail
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im pretty sure every dive hero got one

idle gorge
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brig, rein, doom, dva, zen, winston, genji, tracer, mercy, lucio, zarya, hog, echo

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goat brig is the best one

tawdry hamlet
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Winston spitfire skin looks gross 🤢

sullen berry
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Nah I jam with spitfire winston

idle gorge
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winston spitfire is the worst true true

plush grail
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spitfire winston compared to shock roadhog is yikes

idle gorge
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wait no i hate the genji one 🤮

sullen berry
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Spitfire roadhog better to represent profit's uncapped potential

tawdry hamlet
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So silly

sullen berry
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Face is weird

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But the primal and the airplane design slaps

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
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Lol

sullen berry
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Monkeys don't look weird?

idle gorge
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i hate the face on the genji fire skin

sullen berry
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Reminds me of Yoru

idle gorge
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that's why i don't like it

sullen berry
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Valorant man's mask and all star genji have the same motif

plush grail
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i just want sbb to win something

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so we can get a mvp skin for him

idle gorge
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i want super to get mvp, cause he's the GOAT

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and tbf if rein becomes meta he might

plush grail
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roadhog skin kinda is supers mvp skin

idle gorge
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cause super is best rein in the world no 🧢

plush grail
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hydration >>>>>> super

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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any predictions for what team is gonna shit the bed this year

tawdry hamlet
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Dallas

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Atlanta

plush grail
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cmon that's too boring

idle gorge
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so you're saying that an ex dps player is better at rein, a hero super has put in thousands of hours and is cracked at?

plush grail
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we all know dallas is gonna collapse

plush grail
idle gorge
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there's no world where super isn't the best rein in the world

tawdry hamlet
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Heesu Logix hitscan lineup if double hitscan happens will be pepega

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Linkzr Dalton OmegaLUL

idle gorge
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logix 🐐

mortal abyss
sullen berry
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Eternal Tsunaa

mortal abyss
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Ho

sullen berry
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Or are you looking for a real disappointment

idle gorge
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there's a reason people call logix the god of tracking

tawdry hamlet
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I think toronto will be meh

plush grail
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toronto??

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they have sado now right

mortal abyss
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Carpe shockwave is going to be so fun to watch

tawdry hamlet
idle gorge
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philly also has rascal now

sullen berry
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Who is the most unfun combination to watch

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Colourhex Soon

idle gorge
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smurf choi, cause no super

tawdry hamlet
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We need a vancouver vs valiant all stars exhibition match OmegaLUL

sullen berry
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Hard to say how low Vancouver would fall

idle gorge
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remember when kenobi was a vancouver fanboy, and becasue they then did bad went onto charge

plush grail
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either paris, london or vancouver is gonna end up surprising a lot

sullen berry
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Maybe they could fare a lot better than paris or London Spitfire's b team of 6 blasés

tawdry hamlet
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Lowkey think vancouver would lose to valiant roster

mortal abyss
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Well doesn’t matter tbh

idle gorge
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vancouver didn't change much since last year right?

mortal abyss
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Valiant are still gonna go winless

plush grail
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they did

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vancouver dropped the star players

mortal abyss
plush grail
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ksaa and shockwave both gone

tawdry hamlet
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Sidegrades all around And then a downgrade

idle gorge
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where did ksaa go? cause he was playing good and he was on 200 ping

plush grail
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contendies

idle gorge
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ksaa is an owl player tho

mortal abyss
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He’s playing in tendies

tawdry hamlet
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I guess teru and Linkzr are upgrades for them

mortal abyss
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For new kings

plush grail
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he's from arabia i think and visas are hard now

mortal abyss
idle gorge
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no he's an owl level player

tawdry hamlet
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There are many ex owl players in contenders

mortal abyss
tawdry hamlet
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Not enough spots

sullen berry
mortal abyss
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Yeah if he wasn’t on ping there was no reason Vancouver should have dumped him

idle gorge
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imagine if dafran decided to get back into owl

plush grail
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ksaa didn't make owl but someone like super manages to stay on the shock

plush grail
mortal abyss
idle gorge
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super is the best rein in the world, what the fuck are you on, cause it sounds good

rustic anvil
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yes

plush grail
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im joking he's good ofcourse

mortal abyss
idle gorge
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but super is just good at rein, hog, hanzo and genji McCreeLUL

mortal abyss
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Don’t forget zen

idle gorge
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no his rein and hog are nasty

idle gorge
mortal abyss
#

Super played zen in OWL

#

Season 1

#

That was a strange year

idle gorge
#

i love the super/fran fights

plush grail
#

pre role lock there were tons of weird heroes being picked by players

#

jjonak hog and bastion, super zen

idle gorge
#

and in s3 genji by super

plush grail
#

thats post role lock tho

idle gorge
#

which he did pretty well at

#

tbh, his hanzo doesn't look halfbad either

rustic anvil
#

so true

#

i agree

idle gorge
#

but not owl level i think

mortal abyss
rustic anvil
#

yes

#

of course

idle gorge
#

and nero is quite good at hanzo right?

plush grail
#

isn't nero hitscan

rustic anvil
#

yeah hes alright

mortal abyss
#

No

earnest leaf
#

nero is flex dps

mortal abyss
#

Nero is fdps

earnest leaf
#

the mei/echo/hanzo/genji/pharah stuff

mortal abyss
#

Glister is shocks new hitscan

plush grail
#

why do i remember him as a mcree main for some reason

idle gorge
#

nero also plays tracer i think, but no one is going to play tracer for shock when striker excists

#

tbh, i kinda have the feeling tay1o will be a bench warmer idk why

plush grail
#

yeah he was picked up a while ago

mortal abyss
#

Well yeah

plush grail
#

but never really saw playtime

mortal abyss
#

He doesn’t really have a hero he’s better then all the other dps on the shock at

plush grail
#

yeah im really wondering what the plans are for him

idle gorge
#

i have the feeling they picked him up for genji, but then genji got the nerfs and wasn't meta anymore

plush grail
#

yeah true

#

wasn't he picked up somewhere after the summer showdown

mortal abyss
#

Apparently crusty hasn’t started his 1 to 1 coaching in Ta1yo and that he’s a long term pickup

mortal abyss
earnest leaf
#

I see why people think he was picked up for genji

#

But they still had rascal

mortal abyss
#

Rascal didn’t really perform on genji during SS though

#

During the countdown cup he did really well though

plush grail
#

yeah in the end shock just tried to force double hitscan

earnest leaf
#

Yea shock fell behind meta wise for the SS

#

and nearly won with forcing tracer

plush grail
#

1 fight away tbf

#

still impressive

earnest leaf
#

yea

#

Paris was really solid with it

plush grail
#

and after that

#

paris never performed

earnest leaf
#

It was funny how much better paris got with that meta though

#

I remember a couple weeks before the SS, shock fucking steamrolled them super hard

#

Then sparkle came in with the big dick and won

plush grail
#

dallas sadge

fierce ferry
#

contenders site still down?

idle gorge
#

why do i have the feeling that everyone is a shock fan

#

or that no one hates the shock

earnest leaf
#

It's hard to shit on a team that won the league twice

fierce ferry
#

ye

#

but is there any news ab the contenders site?

plush light
#

Unless glister fills that role, which would lead to striker filling the widow and ashe and glister playing tracer

mortal abyss
#

Striker would be the tracer no?

plush light
plush light
#

Hot take - Fearless is the best main tank 2021.

mortal abyss
#

No

#

Smurf is better on everything except rein

plush light
#

I don't like sado, fate is not quite up there, smurf rein isn't as practiced. Mag and muze are both rookies. I think muze could be it though.

mortal abyss
#

But... smurf is better in every mt

#

Apart from rein

fierce ferry
#

can we just agree that shock has the best tankline

#

it covers everything to a great extent

#

the only hero that one of their tank players is in the top 3 on is prob hammond

mortal abyss
#

Ehh

#

Choi zarya isn’t great

#

And I would probably rate fury, voids and hanbins Sigma’s higher then him

next mesa
#

Not fury for me although they're all s tier

#

And shock has the most flexible main tanks

grizzled badger
#

Yall

#

So the map winrate of the dragons by the end of Season 1 was about 13% (21W-141L-2D or 21 in 164 maps). How many maps would the Valiant have to pick up by the end of the season to match that?

next mesa
#

0

raw ermine
#

assuming they play only bo3 matches, around 1 map every 2 matches would be won to approximately tie the s1 dragons.

vagrant cargo
next mesa
#

thats not happening they will be winning approximately 0

vagrant cargo
#

Blizzard world was pretty close

#

Paris just knew if they mirror meta they get fucked so they already tried genji

vagrant cargo
#

He lacks a great orisa and his ball looked abysmal

plush light
#

Not hot take - mano is really fucking good

vagrant cargo
#

Mano Sado Smurf MuZe Mag>

#

They can play at least 3 MTs to a S tier level

plush light
#

Hot take - highbee is better at Lucio than moth

#

Lmao

#

Roar vs hydration on rein lmao

next mesa
#

facts

raw ermine
#

lmfao

#

sadly bren is taking a hiatus

#

so no more of that for some time

grizzled badger
#

But like for real though

#

How many matches will each team be playing?

raw ermine
#

supposedly only 16, but that ignores tournaments (4 of them), and the playoffs

plush light
#

I'm already hyped for bren to be back

raw ermine
#

cracked beyond belief

next mesa
#

Oh god oh fuck

#

Eu superteam

digital cloud
#

wait, shockwave?

#

I thought he was on philly

#

oh this is just for flash ops

#

fuck

raw ermine
#

nah man

#

the Copenhagen Cockwaves are the new OWL team

worn falcon
#

Cockwave

#

Molf1g

#

Shax????

grand dawn
#

Does anyone know how long the owl skins for hog and echo are going to be on sale for?

worn falcon
#

Till april 4th

fierce ferry
#

nah april 6th

#

so they'll be gone before the OWL season

mortal abyss
trail perch
#

is the goal to get second?

#

PhiladelphiaFusion 🥈

mortal abyss
#

Yes

#

Mano's been getting 3rd for so long

#

now he's gotta get used to getting second

digital cloud
#

second to who, I wonder

#

will it be dragons

#

shock again?

#

glads?

#

a dark horse?

willow moon
#

Is Glads still a thing?

digital cloud
#

find out when owl comes back

#

wdym

willow moon
#

Last time I watched OWL was ~2018 I reckon (I just got back to the game). They didn't do particularly well

plush grail
#

glads are looking like a contender for 2021 champs

worn falcon
#

On paper

willow moon
#

hahahaha

worn falcon
#

Like Dallas Mistic

plush grail
#

''looking like'' yeah

#

they will find a way to become boston 2.0

worn falcon
#

Thats already Valiant

earnest leaf
#

if I had to guess it's gonna be shock/shd plowing their region, dropping a loss somewhere and what not

#

for who wins the tourney's in na vs apac, will depend on the meta

plush grail
#

shock will still be good

#

but probably not as dominant imo

shell onyx
#

Boston wins

#

👍

plush grail
#

no

#

i really lost every bit of hype for them

#

after they went 3-2 to paris

tawdry hamlet
#

Ok but honestly fusion roster looks really great rn

#

Like I think poko is their only "weak" spot and he's really good

#

Like losing sado fury sucks but the upgrades all around make up for it I think

mortal abyss
#

As long as Fusion have Alarm and astro they should always be great

tawdry hamlet
#

So hyped to watch shockwave rascal and carpe play together wate

#

Shockwave able to prove himself

#

On actual ping hopefully

#

Also hyped to see Onigod on normal ping

next mesa
#

He's gonna play on 90 ping

raw ermine
#

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/JAY

Liquipedia Overwatch Wiki
JAY

Josh "JAY" Ferguson is a Australian Overwatch producer that works on Overwatch Path to Pro.
He is also active as the Broadcast Director of Monkey Bubble

#

homie's been doing OW tournaments since 1970

trail perch
thin relic
#

his mercy is very good as well?

#

not top tier but good

trail perch
#

I didnt say his mercy was bad

#

I said he was only top tier on lucio

#

Alarm astro isnt a perma top support line, the second the meta switches away from lucio heavy things, it would be hard to even call them top 3

#

Like in Ana Mercy

#

Or in brig zen

#

Or brig bap

#

or bap zen

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean isn't alarm like the second or third best bap and zen in the league

trail perch
#

Yeah but u cant run him on both

tawdry hamlet
#

True

#

Missing boombox crome

trail perch
#

yeah astro bap is....

raw ermine
#

clone alarm

trail perch
#

Interesting to say the least

mortal abyss
#

And Astro’s mercy is also great

#

His bap yeah isn’t great

#

But this narrative of “astro lucio 1 trick” is heavily overblown

trail perch
#

You sure his brig is top tier?

mortal abyss
#

Yeah?

trail perch
#

idk what vods u be watching

mortal abyss
#

Did you watch the countdown cup

trail perch
#

Yeah, i wouldnt say top tier

#

Its not alarm, LJG level

mortal abyss
#

Alarm literally had the peel of the lifetime

#

It was so hard for anyone to kill him

trail perch
#

also alarm slept anyone who tried to kill him

mortal abyss
#

lol

trail perch
#

remember, top 2 ana

mortal abyss
#

Top 1 >;(

trail perch
#

I personally thing twilight is god on earth

#

think*

raw ermine
#

agreed

wanton birch
#

is echo broken at the moment

#

i tried copying a rein 5 times in a ranked game and its just kept starting the animation but not transforming me

plush grail
#

Maybe ping?

thin relic
pure badger
#

is there a contenders game now?

#

i think there should have been an australia one but i cant find it

raw ermine
#

in 7 hours and 50 minutes there is gonna be one

quartz cairn
#

whens the cut off for the rein bastion skins

#

?

#

usually like the 2nd week of the next month right?

pure badger
#

1.4

#

from past experiance with the skins

quartz cairn
#

1.4?

pure badger
#

but they also made it so you need 3hr for bastion and only 10hr for rein

quartz cairn
#

so like around 1.5 weeks into the next month

quartz cairn
pure badger
#

same

#

but the window closes the first day of april

#

so gotta watch anything you can

quartz cairn
#

first day of april??

#

fuck

pure badger
#

indeed

raw ermine
#

now

#

tell me what's wrong with that sentence

noble nexus
#

all checks out to me

raw ermine
#

"retired" and "currently playing for"

noble nexus
#

yep

#

just makes sense

trail perch
#

Is lucky future still a good team?

#

I only followed them in the diem erster marvel Michelle days

raw ermine
#

they've seem to have gone downhill

#

they dropped out of a season of KR contenders, when they had daco gido and munckin

#

and reappeared a while later w/ a chinese team

#

haven't been the same

trail perch
#

Ugh that sucks

hidden vault
#

Not as a player

raw ermine
#

No wonder so many americans retire...

balmy wolf
timber plover
#

have y’all bought the Roadhog or Echo skins yet

gaunt acorn
#

both

stuck sparrow
#

The echo skin looks slightly better imo

plush grail
#

Both ofcourse

dry mesa
#

anyone else having trouble with contenders website? I am confused if they are doing broadcast tonight or not

fierce ferry
#

ive been having problems too

#

it 404's on me

#

and it seems there's nothing being done about it ( it least nothing that's already communicated)

#

but they're probably hard at work trying to fix

dry mesa
#

i saw a message temporarily

fierce ferry
#

what did it say?

dry mesa
#

basically we fixing it asap

#

korean language version works tho

fierce ferry
#

hoping they fix it before the matches 🤞

#

but i can't even open the contenders home page

dry mesa
#

yeah, but i'll watch korean cast, don't bother me

fierce ferry
#

does it have a different link?

#

found it!

dry mesa
#

youtube ver

#

won't get skins tho

fierce ferry
#

ye

#

I already found the other site

#

do you still get the skins from the korean broadcast?

dry mesa
#

i havent had a problem

#

in the past

fierce ferry
#

hey i got it to work on the main english page, do you think i'll still get drops from it?

#

or should i go to the korean one?

dry mesa
#

either should be fine as long as it says you're logged in and below the video it will say you are earning rewards

#

looks like this

timber plover
#

WHEN IS AUSTRALIA GETTING AN OWL TEAM

#

It’s about time dammit

#

Sydney Storm sounds badass

dry mesa
#

they would have to add and have a buy in i think?

#

would be cool tho

timber plover
#

@dry mesa how come their in contenders but not owl?

#

I just realised japan doesn’t even have an owl team

#

Imagine like Tokyo Blossom or something that would be sick

mortal abyss
dry mesa
#

not as much interest in overwatch in japan and the league is heavily biased towards western countries

timber plover
dry mesa
#

sure, U.S. and China big countries with a large audience

pure badger
#

anyone else getting a 404 error when trying to get into the contenders site?

timber plover
#

Just wished they covered more of a global audience

#

pretty much all the owl teams are northern hemisphere

dry mesa
#

yup, and they killed off brazil contenders scene

#

it's not fair, 10 american teams, two in the same city (LA)

timber plover
#

yea why tf is their two LA teams

dry mesa
#

Would love to see more global, but money dictates a lot of this stuff

#

😦

earnest leaf
#

money> all

timber plover
#

now that I think about it there’s no Southern Hemisphere teams whatsoever

#

which is what I despise about the league

dry mesa
#

yea they had nice talent coming out of brazil and then they basically abandoned them and let them flounder with no resources whatsoever

balmy wolf
#

cause the ow scene is small there

dry mesa
#

it can't grow if you don't support it well

balmy wolf
#

they support no t2

timber plover
#

but the people who did compete on the Brazil team were rly talented

balmy wolf
#

brazil is an exception

#

rio would be cool

timber plover
#

people on the Australian team weren’t as good but they can get better

balmy wolf
#

but idk if they can build an org there

#

for a team

timber plover
#

we need a team for Rio, Sydney, Bangkok, Tokyo etc

balmy wolf
#

tokyo rio agrred

earnest leaf
#

Toronto defiant

timber plover
#

nvm I misspoke

balmy wolf
#

i would add berlin and madrid tbh

#

eu biase tho

timber plover
#

it would be good tho so the league is actually diverse

earnest leaf
#

Probably a guarantee we will never get more expansion teams

timber plover
#

maybe when ow2 releases

earnest leaf
#

Highly doubt it

timber plover
dry mesa
#

there is a middle eastern scene too

#

that has gone unrecognized

earnest leaf
#

Not enough support to have the league expand and get more teams

timber plover
#

maybe 5 more teams at the most

earnest leaf
#

Gonna have to get people actually interested in buying a slot for owl and dropping the money for it

dry mesa
#

yeah, but this year still gonna be good, might be the most competitive its ever been

#

lot of teams upgrading and sidegrading

#

Valiant is the exception

earnest leaf
#

Still probably gonna be the shd/sf show

timber plover
#

is sf shock the best team in terms of skill

dry mesa
#

im okay with that, but glads say they aiming for a championship

earnest leaf
#

Depends on who you ask

timber plover
#

since this is their second championship I believe

earnest leaf
#

Some people will rate glads/shd above shock

#

Some people think shock is untouchable

dry mesa
#

they won, but shanghai does look very strong

timber plover
#

which other teams have won the championship

earnest leaf
#

At least this season we'll get a much better gauge of the teams in both regions vs eachother

#

Since the tourneys will have them face off

#

So we don't have the annoying apac supremacy narrative the entire year again

timber plover
#

Yeah

dry mesa
#

that 6 man shatter

#

in contenders aus

#

just now

timber plover
#

I’ve never been up to date with the owl since it’s pretty hard to get into if u don’t have a team representing ur country

balmy wolf
#

true

dry mesa
#

i don't have a team, i just root for ones that i like

balmy wolf
#

german scene is dead

dry mesa
#

favorite players and teams because i like their playstyle

#

like Chengdu

balmy wolf
#

its easy for some people

#

who are really invested in esports

dry mesa
balmy wolf
#

but you gotta get those normies

#

to watch

timber plover
dry mesa
#

i was a normie and then i started watching

balmy wolf
#

pog then it worked for you

dry mesa
#

never watched any esports before owl

balmy wolf
#

same tho

dry mesa
#

except for runescape esports actually

balmy wolf
#

but i loved the game so much

#

so i got in the owl stuff

dry mesa
#

yeah, they getting people to watch with the contender skin drops

balmy wolf
#

my friends introduced me to owl

timber plover
#

does u guys have a fav skin out of echo and hog I can’t decide

balmy wolf
#

and now im the only one still watching

#

sadge

#

hog skin is better imo

timber plover
#

I’m gonna buy either one I just can’t decide

#

they’re both amazing skins

balmy wolf
#

but i would still get echo

dry mesa
#

i like both, but the hog one has a golden hook chain

#

echo looks better tho imo

timber plover
balmy wolf
#

fleta skin pog

dry mesa
#

fleta is meta

balmy wolf
#

cause its mvp skin

timber plover
#

fleta?

balmy wolf
#

mvp skin > champions skin

#

fleta was mvp last year

#

good player

timber plover
#

It’s honestly too hard to decide cus the flame effect for hog is dope but at the same time the sparkle effect on echo is also cool

timber plover
balmy wolf
#

i really like the angel part of echo

#

if it was more angel like i would buy 1000%

timber plover
#

I’m just not sure if I like the contrast

balmy wolf
#

same

timber plover
#

Damn

balmy wolf
#

they could have made it better

#

i dont like the diagonal split

dry mesa
#

their skins lately have been pretty dope

timber plover
balmy wolf
#

ye better than last year

balmy wolf
dry mesa
#

i got my refund for the zarya sinatraa skin

balmy wolf
#

angel wings are lit tho

dry mesa
#

so used for the echo and hog

timber plover
#

argh it’s a tough decision wether to buy hogs or echos

balmy wolf
#

i dont like

dry mesa
#

get both ;p

timber plover
balmy wolf
#

how the important skins are in off season

#

cause you have to buy it

#

instead of watching to get them

timber plover
#

some people save up tokens

#

So u are prepared

balmy wolf
#

i cant

timber plover
#

why

balmy wolf
#

need more fav team skins

#

i fail saving every time

timber plover
#

do u just spend ur tokens lmao

balmy wolf
#

yes

#

gotta show my loyalty

timber plover
#

I’ve never watched an owl stream so I have 0

balmy wolf
#

damn

#

thats sad

timber plover
#

I just don’t find it interesting

#

I could leave my pc idle but I haven’t been bothered

balmy wolf
#

understandable

#

i just watch for the matches tbh idc that much about tokens

timber plover
#

I only care about the limited time skins

balmy wolf
#

just super into the esport

timber plover
balmy wolf
#

ye if you dont have a fav skin

#

team*

timber plover
#

I’m still pissed i didn’t buy reins all star skin

dry mesa
#

oh yeah the tree shaman one?

timber plover
#

yea

balmy wolf
#

just wait for supers mvp rein skin next year 🙂

dry mesa
#

that one is pretty beautiful

timber plover
#

dvas isn’t as good with dat Karen cut but reins was rly cool

timber plover
dry mesa
#

sure hope he picks reinhardt next time if he ends up getting mvp

balmy wolf
#

he will

#

he only plays when reins meta

#

1trick OMEGALUL

dry mesa
#

he played hog tho

balmy wolf
#

that wont happen again

#

they made a big mistake

dry mesa
#

probably not, but that was entertaining lol

#

giga hog

balmy wolf
#

forcing the meta

#

entertaining ye

dry mesa
#

i wouldn't want it to be that way forever, but it was pretty fun for a moment

balmy wolf
#

good for players no

#

yeah just not in playoffs

#

just like ss when genji was forced meta

dry mesa
#

dunno, i was okay with it, i think the shifting meta rewards flexibility and adaptability

balmy wolf
#

in the small tournaments i dont mind

dry mesa
#

wide hero pools

#

big skill diff between Team FP and Warriors

sullen berry
#

MindFreak and Dire Wolves is where it's at

#

who do you think is winning this series?

vagrant cargo
#

Idk

#

Its just australia tbh

sullen berry
#

but who else is going to win

#

the maccas potg

fierce ferry
#

Ugh now the Australian page 404d

#

For me

#

I hope they decrease the amount of hours watched even more

tawdry hamlet
fierce ferry
#

Otherwise ill never get that rein skin

tawdry hamlet
#

Relatable

sullen berry
#

I already keep missing chunks of each region

tawdry hamlet
#

I just gave up on skins this go around lol

#

The streams were too ducky and I don't play much rein bastion

sullen berry
#

my poor, contenders rein skins

tawdry hamlet
sullen berry
fierce ferry
#

I really want those

#

The rein skins are 🔥

dry mesa
#

direwolves look good

pure badger
#

why df does the site keeps going 404 at random?

fierce ferry
#

Also ik you can watch it on yt

pure badger
#

did blizzard say anything about this

fierce ferry
#

But it doesn’t give the drops

fierce ferry
dry mesa
#

^

pure badger
#

at least its a known issue so thats good

sullen berry
#

best of both - if you get 404 errors, too bad - just par for the course before OWL Token drops do the same with ordinary viewership crashing the site often

fierce ferry
#

Still sad

sullen berry
#

just get the notifications by subbing to contenders

fierce ferry
#

I have them 😉

sullen berry
#

and keep that one running if you're enjoying the match

#

yeah I'd assume no one outside of the little bubble here would sub to their YT page

#

"tWItCh iS bEtTeR"

fierce ferry
#

Do you think they’ll lower the amount of hours you have to watch even more?

sullen berry
#

just hope for more map 5 wins

fierce ferry
#

Ye

#

i got it working again!

#

🥳

dry mesa
#

c9 lols

fierce ferry
#

also dumb question but can you still watch YT on a different device while the other is on the contenders page?

sullen berry
sullen berry
#

I've done watch parties with the live stream on 5 different devices

fierce ferry
#

that doesn't multiply it right?

sullen berry
#

only cares that one of them is still active for it to track your hours watched

fierce ferry
#

ok!

sullen berry
#

if it did multiply, though

fierce ferry
#

that'd be broken

sullen berry
#

you know what's broken

fierce ferry
#

what?

sullen berry
#

LA Gladiators had a promotion to get a free copy of overwatch

fierce ferry
#

wut

dry mesa
#

good for them?

fierce ferry
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but what's broken ab it?

sullen berry
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wait, had none of you heard of this before

fierce ferry
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but what happened

dry mesa
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easy game for direwolves

fierce ferry
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is frogger still on mindfreak?

dry mesa
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no

sullen berry
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quit while he was ahead

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made it to grand finals without having made any effort in scrims with the team

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commendable, I'd say

fierce ferry
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but @sullen berry but what happened with that gladiators thingie

sullen berry
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I might be getting it mixed up, there were a couple tweets from people flexing how they looted 3000+ tokens because the web form could be filled out repeatedley

fierce ferry
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ok weird

dry mesa
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well that was quick

fierce ferry
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also does that thing with the mail list still work

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like the 100 tokens

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cus i never did it and if it still works im going to do it

sullen berry
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the link is dead

fierce ferry
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ok!

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still ty

sullen berry
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the dps diff is staggering

fierce ferry
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also is ur username/nickname in reference to the OWL season start?

sullen berry
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yeah