they are doing other shit later
#esports-discussion
craggy sandal
Apex vs new should be fun
raw ermine
Mag fury, I lost
craggy sandal
Finally good overwatch
tropic herald
sig on live???
raw ermine
what is this view?
next mesa
decay vs sbb
tropic herald
for the love of god get off moba view
raw ermine
awful pov
next mesa
wtf is this view
sly fog
tropic herald
its crazy to think about how that bubble in grav thing to block trans was an insane play in s2 but now its just another thing tank players do
whos this mag guy? they look pretty good at the game
next mesa
What score
craggy sandal
1-1 and justice full held dorado
tawdry hamlet
If so I want to say ez power team but tank line changed 
Mano poko carpe rascal funnyastro alarm is pretty pog though
Plus shockwave
sullen berry
https://www.twitch.tv/pre_ow Live with AVRL
haven't see a coach from Justice have a lot to say about their team this year
sounds like PRE's marketing game is strong
sullen berry
good strength of schedule for 19th best team based on thier entire regular season performance
they have a chance to snowball their last 8 matches
sullen berry
I could see them go 8-8
vagrant cargo
Nah
vagrant cargo
Boston should be guaranteed Ws
sullen berry
can't say the same about toronto
outlaws gladiators and defiant I have mixed feelings what impact they have in the lower half of NA
tawdry hamlet
I don't think they'll snowball houston or titans, decay diff is just far too stronk
sullen berry
do you reckon Titans will learn their lesson after first week matchup in time for the revenge win on the 8/08
tawdry hamlet
Hmm, Linkzr is built different so if they can get him some adderall they could clutch up with the win bet
tawdry hamlet
It was weird because last season he'd hit insane shots and then other days play like a diamond
Inconsistent king
cedar oasis
Ratlanta really got rid of the better main tank and kept gator
balmy wolf
you need a new hobby ngl
vivid dawn
After the steel series invitational honestly I think Boston are kinda mid tier
raw ermine
#carpegang
#pokogang
trail perch
#EQOgang
raw ermine
#supergang
forest raven
it's a copy paste from dr disrespect
vagrant cargo
Ratlanta really got rid of the better main tank and kept gator
Keep going
I support the grind
cedar oasis
They kept the same trash coach
thin grove
Can we talk about valiant though
Like thereâs something seriously wrong with that org
They had Moon as a coach
Then he leaves and does very well with the dragons
Like what are they doing
cedar oasis
Remember the agilities in and out thing
plush grail
god la valiant was so toxic towards players
the entire sister team thing was a good idea
but if you perform badly you get demoted and stuff
horrible management
next mesa
they should go die
ima be honest
go shit the bed
sell that shit
to a better org
thank
plush grail
they explained that they wanted to show the less fun sides of esports
next mesa
Immortals is dogshit anyways
plush grail
but bruh ur legit just mentally fucking ur players
cedar oasis
They are Chinese now
plush grail
how
forest raven
feral zodiac
How did the seoul vs justice scrim go?
balmy wolf
2-1 justice
next mesa
profit not playing
wanton birch
@vagrant cargo no birdring has always been bad at sombra
mortal abyss
Platchat airing rn means rascal announcement when itâs done 
/s
digital cloud
a proud tradition
limber pine
you know it's reached prime meme when teams wait for plat chat to start to announce
digital cloud
the teams just picked up on it so naturally
it just feels right
has valiant team been announced yet?
if not, then they probably announce after as well
limber pine
they have not
wanton birch
nah birdring wasnt good in season 3 (on sombra)
im a glads fan but they didnt have a good sombra at all
vagrant cargo
yeah thats hard cap
mortal abyss
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/lw2r8w/funnyastros_visa_issues_and_travelling_to_south/ my man wrote an essay about why astro can/can't get to korea
worn falcon
rip astro
cedar oasis
Eqo gonna replace him
mortal abyss
If Astro canât get to Korea philly are in trouble
cedar oasis
They have eqo
mortal abyss
Who is also stuck in visa hell
cedar oasis
Mano has a good lucio
mortal abyss
._.
cedar oasis
Well at that point you philly fans start crying because they wont have a full roster
Philly really choking before the league starts
Lmao
wanton birch
i think the only map birdring played really good on sombra was nepal vs reign @vagrant cargo
mortal abyss
Well at that point you philly fans start crying because they wont have a full ro...
Rascal main support
next mesa
rascal bap yes yes
vagrant cargo
i think the only map birdring played really good on sombra was nepal vs reign <@...
das cap he played good several times
mortal abyss
rascal bap yes yes
Rascal brig also
plush light
rascal on anything
Rascal sombra was shit
slow kraken
I mean Astro not bei Nt able to get a visa is a realistic thing since not many countries in are letting UK to travel to them
wanton birch
@plush light What game?
balmy wolf
Any date on when contenders ow will be back ?
balmy wolf
I main Genji
wanton birch
@vagrant cargo what other games was birdring good on sombra ?
vagrant cargo
p much all of them
i dont remember ontop of my head but he has around a hour of playtime on her
tawdry hamlet
Damn if only toronto hadn't got lastro then we could swap astro for lastro and it'd be funny because name
That is tragic astro is an integral part of the team
wanton birch
i love birdring and think hes insane but man isnt a good sombra dude........
sullen berry
The four horsemen podcast where it's actually on RSS feeds
99 mins in - Monte discusses to the big honchos that this year built on the past seasons efforts make OWL format of zero region lock makes it more attractive than League, an Overwatch League for League of Legends
sounds a lot like what VCT is currently doing without stunting growth of T2 & T3
karmic grotto
What do you mean
sullen berry
you don't have to read it, just have a listen
earnest leaf
tropic herald
The question is which one of them messed up
wooden robin
which owl team has the best colorway?
next mesa
what
wooden robin
what what
next mesa
colorway?
wooden robin
yeah
cloud latch
whats that
wooden robin
col¡or¡way
/ËkÉlÉrËwÄ/
Learn to pronounce
noun
any of a range of combinations of colors in which a style or design is available.
next mesa
personal preference
slow kraken
LA Valiant
fierce ferry
when will contenders start again and are the skins announced?
plush grail
best skins are nyxl, glads,mayhem and seoul
next mesa
Seoulll
balmy wolf
why nyxl
feral zodiac
sounds a lot like what VCT is currently doing without stunting growth of T2 & T3
Wdym?
balmy wolf
you can send invitations here
cedar oasis
Just a reminder that ratlanta coaching made Edison and erster flop
balmy wolf
edison popped off wdym
trail perch
Ratlanta now has pelican and Kai
They are too good to flop
This is a hypothetically top 5 dps line in the league
Their coaching could be utter dogshit
digital cloud
dps alone does not carry a team
trail perch
Non existant
And this dps line could deadlift games
The dps alone could beat entire teams
Ok wait hot take time
LAV will be a top 10 team in the league
Because china is cracked at ow
modest crow
How long till the new season?
raw ermine
april
next mesa
not top 10
bottom in apac
thats how many teams
7 better than them
and then
justice shock glads
raw ermine
they'll have no practice, virtually none
karmic grotto
cedar oasis
Ratlanta bottom 5
balmy wolf
good question
cedar oasis
I have no resentment
I am simply stating facts
And Atlanta is the most overrated team
limber pine
Statistically correct. I think ATL was projected to finish top 5-6 preseason and finished 11th
plush grail
Atlanta always overhyped
digital cloud
dallas moreso imo
limber pine
Dallas also overrated but I think they were projected somewhere in the 6-10 range
and finished 13th
digital cloud
most overrated in the sense that people overrate them the most frequently, or by the largest amount?
limber pine
I"m just talking about last season
idk what uvalo is talking about
at least atl had a playoff win
2 in fact
cedar oasis
S3 Atlanta was the most overrated team
I have seen people put Atlanta on the same level as Florida and Toronto
This season
limber pine
well, florida and toronto aren't even on the same level, so idk where you're seeing those
digital cloud
Toronto > Florida
cedar oasis
Florida and Toronto are the teams that could make it to the finals if they perform very well
So does Dallas
limber pine
I mean, I'd put SFS and LAG to two in NA, and Vancouver last
but who knows about the middle 9
cedar oasis
Those are the dark horse teams
Ones that could be very good or could flop
Boston is there aswel
Atlanta is the team I have seen people put way above where they should be
balmy wolf
2 guys including me are high on them bro
digital cloud
I think they can be mid maybe if the tanks improve somewhat
but I doubt it because the coaching is still trash
cedar oasis
Anyone think that jjonack can become top 5 again
raw ermine
he's still good and can improve, but likely not to t5 just cause of the amount of talent in the league
worn falcon
nerf viol2t pls
next mesa
Anyone think that jjonack can become top 5 again
yes
cedar oasis
Jjonack is all aim no brain
He just needs that brain
Imagine nyxl coaching is garbage again
next mesa
prob is tbh
look jjonak is only piece thats still alive
hes cracked
dpei thinks he is s tier
clearly nyxl coaches think so too
tight axle
Who are the top 10 supports (no order). I'm thinking fdgod, moth, twilight, alarm, both Astros, twilight, and then I dunno
mortal abyss
Who are the top 10 supports (no order). I'm thinking fdgod, moth, twilight, alar...
There's more then 1 astro?
Or do you mean lastro
raw ermine
i'd imagine
tight axle
Yeah I meant lastro. And I figured main and flex supports
tight axle
viol2t not on the list
That's who I forgot. I thought i was missing a big name
raw ermine
main and flex should be separated into different lists
trail perch
I been saying this season is jjonaks
NYXL finna be second in APAC
and win the season
trail perch
Also also also idk why Glads are hyped up so much, they went to 5 maps against basically a contenders team
IMT is no longer head coach
wanton birch
this might sound stupid but hear me out, a new tank passive that gives you faster ult charge when pressing w
trail perch
I was trying to climb a new account out of plat on support
I couldnt get past 2800 solo queue
plat tanks apparently dont feed, they dont push W
wanton birch
yeah they just always try and win a spam wart
then blame it on dps if nothing dies before they do
balmy wolf
it has been harder to climb this season. feels like you have no impact
slow kraken
Unless you have a throwing tank who charges in on cooldown
feral zodiac
Git gud
cedar oasis
Yes
Get Gud
Anyone else think it's kinda wierd that twilight is still with the shock
feral zodiac
Nah
feral zodiac
Ye but he gets to grind more valorant when viol2t is playing
next mesa
if he wanted to play valorant he would've already
he just vibing
free championships
still an important role on shock
taking it easy
mortal abyss
Itâs the most unfair thing that viol2t AND twilight are on shock
cedar oasis
Yea
karmic grotto
if you have money
cedar oasis
That's cheating
vagrant cargo
i love birdring and think hes insane but man isnt a good sombra dude........
As i said rewatch his S3 games lol
cedar oasis
If philly do get rascal
They probably will still lose
I would say poko is on the same level as space
raw ermine
who do you think charged ult faster? Haksal on brig in goats or SP9RK1E on genji in summer showdown meta?
wanton birch
@vagrant cargo you keep saying that but donât seem to remember the games he was good yourself XD
vagrant cargo
it was p much all of them lol
u keep saying he isnt good without any evidence
birdrings neutral game on sombra was crazy good he found extremly creative angles to get hacks through while having barely any space
trail perch
who do you think charged ult faster? Haksal on brig in goats or SP9RK1E on genji...
Def SP9RK1E
Because Haksal's rallies charged incredibly fast in fights
raw ermine
ah I see
tight axle
Theoretically would agilities be faster (he had the highest hero damage per 10 min during summer showdown) or am I missing something?
frosty pawn
Yes
feral zodiac
Agilities on anything but genji is a throw
tight axle
He used to be great (at the beginning of s3 he popped against Paris and fusion) but then he declined until the Showdown where he pretty much carried Toronto
frosty pawn
Yes
slow kraken
Overall toronto more less declined
Especially when double hitscan was meta
Only mr logix could do anything
tight axle
They never really had an ngl yeah
I watched logix literally destroy top tier teams and then the rest of his team fed
slow kraken
Who else is hitscan?
tight axle
S4 in s3
slow kraken
Is it Hessu?
tight axle
Now heesu
feral zodiac
What is the Toronto supp line
slow kraken
Kariv
feral zodiac
I feel like they're facing a similar situation to justice
tight axle
Aztac lastro ansoonjae
slow kraken
And someone else
feral zodiac
Nvm
slow kraken
I wonder if lastro will play
tight axle
They actually have a great support line
noble nexus
or michelle considering he hasn't played in an entire season
tight axle
The only things I'm worried bout are Michelle ansoonjae and na1st but coaches are already saying na1st could be rookie of the year
And kdg Michelle wasn't too bad
slow kraken
His projectile is dirty
tight axle
Yeah but he had a rough a patch on T1 I tuink
tight axle
Someone said thar everyone but logix was a part of fusion uni or main
And the supports
slow kraken
Mr logix was a bit underrated tbh
tight axle
I agree
tight axle
The problem is his highs are absolutely insane but he has trouble being consistent
Even medium logix is nasty but not that nasty
slow kraken
If his team around him can play consistently well he can do very well
tight axle
Imagine s3 Toronto if they had a flex dps and a off tank
Yeah he never had a good team that's part of the problem
He was on mayhem, where they benched him just when they started winning
slow kraken
Idk about beast tbh
tight axle
I like beast
slow kraken
Heâs not the best tbh
tight axle
He's basically still a contenders player in my mind and he never got great coaching
Not his fault. Things dropped when the head coach left
It kinda sucked for the whole team
And the sure4 pretty much stopped
tight axle
Yeah feelsbad
But I'm actually hyped for toronto
I would go so far as to say top 5
They have a lot of amazing talent and they have a great coaching staff. Like seriously kdg and the former runaway coach? They're set
raw ermine
for once in our lives, we have a decent coach
tight axle
Not just that but they actually have a coach
I think the head coach left both seasons
Midway through
raw ermine
yeah the gm and hc
tight axle
I think they'll win one of the tourneys (double hitscan or sombra meta) and get to quarter or semi finals in the rest and maybe playoffs
feral zodiac
I do wonder who the dissapointment of the year will be
tight axle
My bets on mayhem. They look solid but something feels off or Shock bc no more moth and ans
noble nexus
Dallas will be massive disappointments unless they get specific metas
they're a little too overrated
without jecse lucio and fearless rein or monkey they'll be 4th-5th NA
next mesa
I think xzi just need to get gud
ima be honest
jecse was least of their problems
xzi cant play ashe to save his life
tropic herald
Rewatching steelseries, skewed brig insane
If the backline is brig anything glads will roll
Unironically could be the beat brig in NA
next mesa
I mean whats th e competition besides fdgod
noble nexus
doesn't Alarm have a decent brig?
also dallas don't have a good tracer
and tracer is probably one of the most crucial dps heroes
sand violet
violet has a good brig too
or was it twilight that played brig for them
idk I think they both can iirc
noble nexus
twilight has the brig
topaz ridge
next mesa
Yep
sullen berry
without jecse lucio and fearless rein or monkey they'll be 4th-5th NA
I reckon Fearless rein has become a lot more readable in season 3, if lower teams have counters when he makes himself bait then Sp9rkl3/Xzi or even Jecse/Fielder could save them
honest stag
Team Inlineum Is trying to find some overwatch members dm me if you want to join
btw no tryout needed just simple questions
(also looking for cc/streamers and recruiters if possible)
plush grail
@honest stag try #lf-players-na
feral zodiac
doesn't Alarm have a decent brig?
Alarm is apac rn
noble nexus
oh right I keep forgetting that
sullen berry
Funnyastro is the lone NAer
plush grail
funnyastro is bri ish
forest raven
sullen berry
EQO technically counts at EU too
feral zodiac
EQO technically counts at EU too
Wat
vagrant cargo
I mean depends
Dreamer gets always counted as AUS talent
its the same for eqo
I personally consider him not eu talent
slow kraken
If they wanna play rush theyâre EU
plush grail
I mean israel is eu right?
american education be like
tawdry hamlet
tawdry hamlet
Yzn is nut
balmy wolf
why tho?
plush grail
when they removed sr decay they should have removed it for diamond to masters
gm and above should have sr decay
tawdry hamlet
Being in the middle east makes ping bad for him I want to see him at full strength
feral zodiac
Yzn is nut
Let's see him maintain it without the mercy
forest raven
may as well ask super to maintain his rein dominance without a lucio or bap
feral zodiac
Yes
next mesa
Yeah that's just not a thing
feral zodiac
That is exactly why I want to see it
Yznsa singlehandedly making sure pharah never gets buffed 
crude zinc
feral zodiac
Is his echo contenders level?
raw ermine
maybe?
stable agate
echo still has a lot of counters tho
raw ermine
Echo is still super good
stable agate
well yeah shes incredibly broken
but im pretty sure that blizzards gonna nerf her soon
raw ermine
with the new experimental card people, yeah
cedar oasis
Phara basically useless in owl
next mesa
profit would like to disagree
cedar oasis
Remember that time in season 2 when fleta destroyed I think it was the charge
They played phara in the playoffs
Fleta mcree just deleted them
trail perch
Thats just fleta cree being god tier
He just like didnt miss
I actually rewatched that game, it was fucking scary
Like s1 pine vs. Boston on ilios lighthoutse
cedar oasis
Like most of the good hitscan in the league should be able to do that against phara
Pine just peaks above everyone else
Remember that time on junkertown against London
cedar oasis
Pine mcree
trail perch
Not consistantly
next mesa
if ur in owl as a hitscan u should be able to do that
trail perch
Not against nero pharah
next mesa
but
trail perch
Remember Nero is a top 5 pharah
trail perch
No fleta is just built different, because nero pharah also shreded some teams in 2021
Just like most top hitscan can hit those tough shots
Most top pharahs can just play better out of hitscan los
trail perch
Then how did profit do it?
Profit played pharah against everyone
Including Shanghai
Ttuba played it against Sf shock,Florida mayhem
and won
and Paris but Soon not as good as striker, ans, or bqb
raw ermine
everyones built different
trail perch
Ttuba did it too
cedar oasis
If someone plays like fleta did and they have a decent team that's not getting stomped then phara is basically useless
cedar oasis
Theres lots of those ones...
cedar oasis
That's playoff profit
trail perch
Then watch ttuba versus SF Shock
cedar oasis
The playoff one?
trail perch
yeah
Not Oasis, I dont think he played pharah
But on control center
And i think garden
cedar oasis
I cant find it
cedar oasis
They one decay played zarya
cedar oasis
Against a good team when phara isnt the meta and both teams play her she is basically useless
feral zodiac
He would need to have a much broader hero pool to be considered
cedar oasis
If you get a consistent hitscan at the owl phara is just bad
I just remembered roar
Who was worse roar muma or beast
noble nexus
gonna be honest I think yznsa knows he won't ever be on an owl team
also roar probably worse
but I don't remember beast playing too much
cedar oasis
Roar and muma both got replaced by dps players
I think roar was expected to be way better like everyone knew muma was bad
noble nexus
roar dragged his team down more
also kinda unfair to compare getting benched by decay zarya to getting benched by any of hydration's tank heroes
next mesa
muma was worse bruh
noble nexus
muma was considered good at some point in his owl career
thin relic
yeah and roar and muma were different situation
noble nexus
I think
next mesa
at least roar didn't get literally replaced by a dps player just by nutty zarya
thin relic
muma used to be considered the best western MT
next mesa
when was he ever considered the best western MT
thin relic
season 1 wasnt he?
noble nexus
I don't think that is true
forest raven
muma was considered the best western MT when he was the only western MT
noble nexus
lol
next mesa
thats an oddly specific cateogry
feral zodiac
I think roar was expected to be way better like everyone knew muma was bad
Muma
noble nexus
super came in for half a season and looked better overall
thin relic
I donât remember the details but wasnât hydration picked up bc he could flex to tank?
or like that was part of it?
feral zodiac
At least roar didn't get replaced on main tank
cedar oasis
But roar was expected to be atleast decent everyone knew muma was trash
next mesa
when did anyone expect hydration to play tank
he is flex dps its what he was known for like forever
thin relic
idk I remember hearing people say Houston picked him to play tank or smth
itâs just something I vaguely remember idrk
next mesa
he played tank because muma was so fucking dogshit
cedar oasis
Fuck typing
noble nexus
LOL
thin relic
he was kinda bad but in fairness if Orisa wasnât meta I donât know if he wouldâve gotten benched
cedar oasis
I think Washington wanted to replace roar but they couldn't
thin relic
I mean they wanted to play lullsish with ellivote but the former was stuck in visa hell right?
cedar oasis
Ellivote was I think
thin relic
in 2020.
feral zodiac
Roar was disappointing, muma was fucking bronze
next mesa
why would you play ellivote over jjanu tho
thin relic
I think ellivote was stuck in visa hell in 2019, then they signed lullsish to pair with him for 2020, but while ellivote did get a visa lullsish couldnât so they played roar
Jjanu wasnât signed till mid season
cedar oasis
Ellivote was decent tho
next mesa
he was signed pretty early ellivote hit the bench after
thin relic
iirc stratus and Corey retired in may, then they released ellivote and picked up stitch and jjanu
no bc jjanu and stitch were originally signed as emergency replacements bc Corey left
next mesa
ellivote was released after
thin relic
and then they signed them to full contracts and released ellivote bc they were going all Korean anyways l
Yeah ellivote was effectively replaced by jjanu bc the rest of the team was going to be Korean by that point
cedar oasis
Gameplay wise I think muma played worse
thin relic
yes
thin relic
the plan: lullsish ellivote
beginning of season to mid season: roar ellivote
end of season: roar jjanu
forest raven
i don't think i've ever seen space and poko compared before
which is weird because they're both high tier western off tanks
feral zodiac
Does poko play sig?
next mesa
Poko is probably only weak link
yes
"weak" link
they have ninek I believe
how people still doubting ninek idfk
cedar oasis
He is like high b tier poko
feral zodiac
Poko = space
thin relic
if poko is the weakest link on Philly then Philly is a strong strong chain
god rascal would fill phillyâs holes so well
forest raven
thin relic
extra flex option, and fills the Baptiste role that boombox had last season
next mesa
just apac very stacked
forest raven
philly gonna get 2nd place again 
feral zodiac
Who is their flex dps now that ivy is gone?
thin relic
eqo
next mesa
was eqo
forest raven
The Philadelphia "0 Dubs" Fusion
feral zodiac
Who is ivy at now?
next mesa
nyxl
thin relic
Eqo has higher peaks on the heroes he excels at but yeah
feral zodiac
Damn
thin relic
ivyâs better across the board
forest raven
feels good being a shock fan 
feral zodiac
feels good being a shock fan <:PeepoGlad:620359689796059147>
Fucking hoarders
forest raven
thin relic
I donât think he could get a visa?
feral zodiac
Ivy hanzo was cracked af
forest raven
we have two main tanks that would be perma starters on every other team in the league
forest raven
we have two flex supports that would be perma starters on every other team in the league
next mesa
okay thats true
feral zodiac
we have two main tanks that would be perma starters on every other team in the l...
I don't think super would be a perma starter on any of the top 5 teams
feral zodiac
Dps though
cedar oasis
Dps is bad
thin relic
super rein hog two trick
next mesa
glister needs to be ans
feral zodiac
Dps is shocks weakness rn
cedar oasis
Rien is ass now so super is ass
feral zodiac
Rascal to philly đ
thin relic
Is it confirmed?
next mesa
dragons dps line better than every dps line
feral zodiac
Not yet but I hope
feral zodiac
dragons dps line better than every dps line
Hm
feral zodiac
Seoul have a very good dps line
next mesa
Seoul has a better duo
thin relic
justice DPS line??
feral zodiac
Jerry is unknown
forest raven
i wanna see mag FUCK
thin relic
better than Shanghai? Probably not but itâs worth a mention
next mesa
Diem also fucks
feral zodiac
Jerry idk
thin relic
assassin probably fucks
forest raven
Ttuba barely fucks
cedar oasis
The real dps line is Chengdu
thin relic
ttuba absolutely fucks
feral zodiac
Who else is dps for justice
thin relic
decay Ttuba assassin jerry
feral zodiac
Also, I'm scared that mag is gonna end up like roar
cedar oasis
Nah
thin relic
Iâm more worried about muze ending up like roar
cedar oasis
Washington have good coaches dont they
feral zodiac
Idk about muze
thin relic
yes
feral zodiac
Closer and bebe = weak points
Who is the weak point for seoul
Just the entire team?
next mesa
Muze got nothing to worry about
feral zodiac
Inconsistent af
next mesa
Gesture and profit probably
feral zodiac
And he supposedly fucks in scrimd
Ppl saying the same about chex lul
thin relic
Chex is good!!!
next mesa
Well there's a reason why he's still on the team I bet
forest raven
i'm amazed people still take scrim results as any sort of authority on actual results
thin relic
like heâs a good player just only on some heroes
cedar oasis
Why do people think ttuba is going to be good
forest raven
idk
cedar oasis
He was meh for most of last season
feral zodiac
Because he had a solid improvement from the start to the end of last season
feral zodiac
Pharah?
cedar oasis
When
forest raven
ah yes
feral zodiac
Playoffs
forest raven
a very relevant hero in owl
feral zodiac
His tracer seemed ok
cedar oasis
Nah when
cedar oasis
Against who
feral zodiac
Shock
cedar oasis
When decay played zarya?
feral zodiac
Are you going to tell me decay was the only good player on the team that time
cedar oasis
Ttuba didnt play phara did he?
thin relic
He did on some maps
forest raven
well he must be improved then
thin relic
and tracer whatâre you talking about?
feral zodiac
Literally go back to the shock vs justice game and engage brain
thin relic
he played pharah on like lijiang
forest raven
all i care about in season 4 is seeing smurf and viol2t dicking on the competition once again
feral zodiac
Losing =/= bad
cedar oasis
Ttuba played sombra for 95 percent of the match
feral zodiac
And
forest raven
what exactly are you guys arguing about
feral zodiac
Ttuba being improved from the start to the end of last season
craggy sandal
Chilhwa diff
earnest leaf
He looked really good during the genji meta, and during playoffs he was playing very well
That's why people are high on him
limber pine
My point is that he needed a specific meta and a hard carry to look better
earnest leaf
That's fair, but now he has fury/mag instead of ellivote roar
So he won't have tanks running it down mid (I think) all game
limber pine
yeah he can be a better supporting DPS and let Decay be the carry
visual nova
ok
noble nexus
scrimbux stonks say that ttuba is looking really good but I'm not an investor so
noble nexus
that's a weird, unedited image of super
raw ermine
Contenders SK is gonna be live for the first time on the 15th of march
arctic dragon
anyone know when eu servers for comp will be up?
arctic dragon
wym they broke it
arctic dragon
yh but this happens every update there is going to be a downtime
just for how long ? thats what idk about
feral zodiac
Yznsa singlehandedly making sure pharah never gets buffed <:tracerkek:5856639224...
This aged well
woven acorn
yh but this happens every update there is going to be a downtime
At least for the past couple of seasons you could play the new season insantly
tbh, I don't think any of these changes will change the current pro scene meta
at least not for contenders
rein/dva, orisa/sigma, mei will still be palyed
raw ermine
rEApEr PhARaH toO GoOD
sullen berry
perhaps the only test any team should failhttps://twitter.com/pre_owl/status/1367518247625650180?s=21
good on ya for getting them tested before they move in together
sullen berry
korean talent moving to NA
next mesa
plz no
next mesa
I saw that
first of all damn roolf is fckin old
and like yes lets compare stats that are irrelevant to eachother
raw ermine
this means, therefore, roolf is better than horvat
balmy wolf
who are the contender skins for this month if any of yall know
hot onyx
symmetra
karmic grotto
Wtf is your pfp? 
hot onyx
Are you questioning the loli hentai or Yee-Haw McBones?
balmy wolf
Wtf is your pfp? <:wut:588145000303558666>
its not a loli it's a matching pfp with me n my bf LMAO
feral zodiac
balmy wolf
also the contender skins for this month is rein and bastion
tired marsh
raw ermine
Moth was the shotcaller, but he's gone now
I would say super was and still is the IGL
all the sfs players are really good shotcallers regardless
and yeah that pfp kinda sus ngl
next mesa
Everyone can shotcall
raw ermine
but they're all giga shotcallers
hot onyx
Ok itâs 3 am and I canât sleep who wants to hear my âtin-foil hatâ type of owl theory?
trail perch
Lets hear it
plush grail
Ok itâs 3 am and I canât sleep who wants to hear my âtin-foil hatâ type of owl t...
"super is washed" is not a tinfoil hat theory, that's common knowledge
sour cobalt
how do I get
the
contenders bastion skin
I know I have to watch 7 hours but I dont know how many streams there will be
Where do I watch it
I need this skin
hot onyx
Lets hear it
Turns out in those 15 minutes my insomnia was cured
vagrant cargo
LMFAO
raw ermine
and you forgot it? or you realised its dumb?
hot onyx
and you forgot it? or you realised its dumb?
Oh no I just forgot to say it since I was asleep
raw ermine
lol
hot onyx
But I can still say it if you wanna rip the piss out of me for it
Or potentially praise me for not having the 2nd smallest brain in the world
raw ermine
Do you still believe in it?
hot onyx
100%
raw ermine
go ahead
hot onyx
Rascal was already on the fusion since before he claimed he was planning on retiring
And theyâve been integrating him into the team since before the new year
plush grail
thats just dumb
hot onyx
I know it is but hear me out
plush grail
i dont think the shock would like it if rascal was under contract for shock but playing under fusion
hot onyx
Rascal got released on October 25th
Heâs been with fusion at least since after shockwave was announced in November
And thereâs reason for my mindset like this
plush grail
guys i think sideshow and josh wilkinson are the same person
hot onyx
Other than on some players twitch streams, how much of the inside of the Fusion team house in Seoul have you seen?
plush grail
not a lot because im pretty sure they're not there yet
eqo is in visa hell, so is funnyastro
poko is french and shockwave danish
hot onyx
They announced their movement in mid December, and itâs now March
And eqo being in visa hell is another reason because what if he suffers the same fate of neptuno on charge?
Theyâd need a replacement, and whoâs a better replacement than (arguably) the best projectile damage player in the league?
plush grail
dalton
hot onyx
Man I wish but heâs already under contract
Maybe next year though
Yeah youâre also right, poko and astro arenât in the team house theyâre in their homes my bad
Still doesnât mean he wasnât being integrated with the team
Plus with NineK being there itâs an extra reason for him to choose fusion
Also remember how itâd been reported that one certain team had been missing scrims?
Depending on how long that phase was, chances are it couldâve been fusion as they were in the middle of the signing process
Considering they missed out completely on some sort of practice thingie in season 1/the inaugural season it wouldnât be the first time
vagrant cargo
I mean
Rascal to philly rumors have been a thing for aged
Ages
Like even pre 2021 i think?
I do think the talks fell through at first but he then performed rlly well in the all kr trials
Like philly had a eu roster with JkAru and Provide (Slur) as ringers
So i assume they did the same for KR
hot onyx
JkAru and Provide tried out for fusion?
News to me
But knowing Rascals personality would it really be that big of a surprise if he was keeping this secret?
Also keep in mind Fusion is one of the 6 teams that hasnât played in any of the showmatch tournaments
And itâd be quite a surprise if he chose to go to Titans or Outlaws instead
The only team that has all this is common with Fusion and that Rascal has been interested in is the Defiant
And whichever one Rascal is already on he lied about Toronto ânot working outâ or Philadelphia ânot offering enough moneyâ on his stream because he likes to troll
I just think itâs more likely to be Fusion that heâs on since theyâve got a larger chance of success than Toronto, and NineK.
cedar oasis
Nah nah
Rascal is gonna be like
Trolled you all I'm actually going to be streaming now
vagrant cargo
JkAru and Provide tried out for fusion?
Ringers isnt trials
Ringers are just subbing
KR roster probably looked like carpe rascal mano clestyn unique alarm
hot onyx
Imagine how scary that roster would be if it was GaeBullSi over Clestyn
hot onyx
Trolled you all I'm actually going to be streaming now
Thatâs not impossible and if he does that I will be gutted
plush grail
libero might be the reason rascal is not signed yet
maybe they're still deciding between rascal and libero?
cedar oasis
I hope
Just imagine corona didnt happen and we got 2 more expansion teams and people like libero meko and benbest got signed
plush grail
bruh if corona never happened
we'd get expansion teams
homestands
and teams wouldn't have to go budget
noble nexus
LAV might not have happened too
because they'd have to find a different excuse for their bullshit
cedar oasis
They probably would have still been bought by the Chinese
hot onyx
Man no offence to the flex god libero but choosing him over rascal is like choosing Burger King over FiveGuys
next mesa
nah
its like picking in n out over shake shack
both god
wont be mad with either choice
tight axle
I dunno who I would pick. They're both insane but didn't rascal have some issues at one point and there had to be a reason libero was benched I just can't believe nyxl is that dumb
hot onyx
Donât get me started on nyxlâs coaching staff being the worst in the league
noble nexus
rascal had attitude issues on Dallas
barely a point against him
Dallas was shit before they goblin'd paris' roster
hot onyx
Other than decay and doha dallas last year were a bottom 5 team imo
noble nexus
the power of decay and doha dragged them out of bottom 5
onigod was pretty decent too
shame he barely played till decay dipped
hot onyx
Mate if Dallas played their cards right they couldâve had a decay-rascal damage duo
tight axle
Nah that's too long term
noble nexus
yeah I doubt it
tight axle
Rascal would've hated being on a bad team for 2 yrs and wouldve left even without decay
noble nexus
rascal wouldn't have stayed with them long enough to play with decay even if they had good coaches
dallas just weren't good enough to be worthwhile for him I think
hot onyx
What was dallas damage line in s2?
Akm Zacharee Taimou
Effect?
That wouldnât have been enough for Rascal to perform well on
cedar oasis
Rascal was in Dallas s1 only wasent he
hot onyx
Iâm talking if he stayed for season 2
tight axle
Yeah he left halfway through
hot onyx
Note and OGE tank line and I believe Crimzo and Closer supports?
I wouldâve left if I was Rascal as well
And even in s3 they downgrade oge to gamsu
Rascal wouldâve worked well with Decay but not well enough to drag the rest of the team to a tournament win
cedar oasis
They are basically the same
next mesa
nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
raw ermine
jjanu said he is pretty much done w/ professional ow
restive galleon
i hit lvl 100 what happens next?
balmy wolf
owl
vagrant cargo
Imagine how scary that roster would be if it was GaeBullSi over Clestyn
Unique is the weak spot
Clestyn would unironically be a upgrade over poko i think long term
hot onyx
I think I want what youâre smoking
worn falcon
Ratlanta coach Brad shares that his players think that Yaki was the best Genji in the League, even better than sp9rk1e