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tawdry hamlet
trail perch
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Lowkey kinda hoping for that

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Because being dead is finally a reason to stop playing ow

tawdry hamlet
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that is in fact one way to stop playing the game

hot onyx
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Or you could put your pc in a shredder

mortal abyss
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But then how would I play overwatch

next mesa
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Barbecue "barbecuechicken" chicken

trail perch
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Levy "Levy | SIGN DIYA" Sign Diya

raw ermine
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Sado Aim "Sado Aim>Carpe Aim" Carpe Aim

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this is a trend now, retirement threatening

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its been 2 days bro

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chill

next mesa
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Revenge is honestly a god gamer

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😔

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plz

silk frost
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Idk put him on a plat team I guess

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Then he wont retire maybe

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Ty "ty" ty

next mesa
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You mean

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T "ty" y

silk frost
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N-no

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My first name isnt T

blazing coral
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Anyone know why Dallas keeps getting smoked 0-3?

raw ermine
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curse of dallas

blazing coral
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Lol ig ur right

mortal abyss
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cycle of misery cannot be broken

raw ermine
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for a realistic answer

blazing coral
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They also don’t have any good tracer players

raw ermine
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yeah

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and its a new team, and although they've played together before, they need time

blazing coral
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True

next mesa
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they had like

blazing coral
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It was still sad, I was hyped

next mesa
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way less scrim time

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im guessing

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fearless ball is like not a comfort pick for him

blazing coral
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Yeah

next mesa
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also yes less flexible

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also charge and dragons just build diff 👀

mortal abyss
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Didn't they announce all their signings early so they could start scrimming earlier or something

blazing coral
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Charge losing Nero sucks but they still good

silk frost
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This is the worst meta imaginable for the tanks and dps

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Ball zar? Echo tracer?

raw ermine
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yeah

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hanbin isn't a bad zarya

silk frost
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And the supports arent exactly on comfort picks

raw ermine
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but stand1 played the ball

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tracer is yikes

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and sparkle echo is

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meh

cloud latch
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wasn't fielder not in as well?

silk frost
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Yeah

blazing coral
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Also I think it’s great Houston got Jake, but hydration switched to dps so now they have 5 dps and only one playable support

silk frost
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Joobi will be of age in time

blazing coral
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Yeah

next mesa
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I wasn't that surprised that rapel was in honestly

blazing coral
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Jake is mostly gonna coach though right?

next mesa
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his zen better than fielder? that's really believable

silk frost
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This season will also expose how overrated rush was

tight hill
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?

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Why would you think he was overrated

silk frost
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The players who improved the most werent coached by him on paris, but ninek

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Benbest, nico, soon, and fdgod were all coached by ninek because rush doesnt speak english

tight hill
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Hanbin?

silk frost
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And I thought all the Korean players were a little hit or miss at times

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Except tannin yeah

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Hanbin

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Fuckin auto correct

tawdry hamlet
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xzi had no holes besides ashe that soon covered

silk frost
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Tracer

tawdry hamlet
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I mean when you have soon

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do you need your star widow on tracer

silk frost
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Fair enough

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Xzi and hanbin were very consistent

tawdry hamlet
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although lack of ashe tracer ability was angerybongo

tight hill
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I mean even if he didn’t have anything to do with their improvements he still was the coach managing the strategy’s and things like that

next mesa
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I think they should put doha echo and sparkle tracer instead of sparkle echo and xzi tracer but that's just me

silk frost
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I mean to me its a question of whos worse at tracer

tawdry hamlet
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unless xzi hard grinds i don't see him developing a top tracer any time soon and with sparkle already having a sombra I would like to think tracer could possibly work since he is used to high movement heroes

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but idk

trail perch
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why didnt they run doha sparkle

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Echo tracer

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or sombra echo

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with doha on either echo or sombra

next mesa
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I think if you watch their vods they will all have solid/passable tracers but not on the level of profit/decay and lets not even talk about striker

trail perch
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Prob his best 2 characters

tawdry hamlet
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what did sparkle play last season besides genji sombra actually

silk frost
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I mean doha genji is pretty clean

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Doomfist more than sombra

tawdry hamlet
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did he play hanzo like a couple times or am I imagining things

silk frost
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Sparkle isnt a great sombra

trail perch
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ur imagining things

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But Doha was a killer sombra

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like one of the best when they where in contedies

tawdry hamlet
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probably mistaking it with fusion who ran hanzo more often

silk frost
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But his pool is Pharah genji doomfist and he can play Hanzo and junkrat

tawdry hamlet
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I think

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when they played reign last season they actually put soon on the rat

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but that was the saucy tire series so

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it doesn't prove anything

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since both teams were playing really weird

next mesa
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doha genji is clean yeah

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but when you have sparkle on your team 💀

wanton birch
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cant wait till this gamestop stuff ends and i buy my own owl team

silk frost
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Doha can play
Sombra
Genji
Echo
Junkrat
Mei
Pharah
Hanzo
Ashe kinda but not amazing
Doomfist

tawdry hamlet
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trying to make a genji tier list but all the notable genjis are s tier

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and everyone else just barely plays him loll

silk frost
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Agilities

tawdry hamlet
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I guess Agilities could be more A tier

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but it is debatable

silk frost
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Holy shit am I the hot take one now

mortal abyss
silk frost
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Is it weird to call Agilities B tier gengu

tawdry hamlet
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Dalton genji is S+ tier

next mesa
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A tier prob

tawdry hamlet
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he dragged toronto to 4th place even though they finished like 11th in na

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so I would say A

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idk in summer showdown agilities was a madman same with the All Star Game

silk frost
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S sparkle eqo Ivy
A Eileen rascal erster profit (?)
B Agilities Fleta Profit (?)

tawdry hamlet
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profit is missing

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and eqo is not s shock just didn't have a genji imo

mortal abyss
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I would put ivy in S

silk frost
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Ivy is sick yeah

tawdry hamlet
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Profit gibraltar genji was NUT

silk frost
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I mean the eqo blade

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That shit

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That ALONE

tawdry hamlet
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I wonder where Haksal stacks up if he was on a competently coached team during summer showdown

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since he used to be considered the best

silk frost
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Probs S

plush grail
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haksal sombra

true hound
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best genji was without a doubt sparkle

digital cloud
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No tracer for Dallas means no win

true hound
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in showdown at least

digital cloud
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That simple

true hound
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all time probanly Haksal

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whoru was also very very good but he kinda fell off hard

digital cloud
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Sparkle better than haksal

silk frost
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I feel like eqo is the 2nd GOATed genji

digital cloud
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And haksal annihilates whoru

true hound
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In terms of GOAT idk

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It’s probably haksal

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Haksal has been considered the best for 4 years

plush grail
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legit i only see eqo hate here

true hound
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influential genji players it’s probably shadowburn

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Shadder too even

silk frost
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I mean his genji was #1 in season 1 and amazing this last ywar

digital cloud
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EQO is great

true hound
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sdb was the better genji player was he not

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compared to eqo

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S1

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Got benched because sdb had not much flexibility

silk frost
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No, eqo had better stats actually

true hound
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didn’t talk either

tawdry hamlet
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wait when did houston run linkzr genji lolll
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silk frost
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And he played snarter

true hound
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sdb just never used blade

plush grail
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why

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was linkzr on genji

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what the fuck

silk frost
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Linkzr plays genji?????????????

true hound
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Yeah

silk frost
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He was the MAIN genji in s1 for them

plush grail
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thats like the reverse blase cree

silk frost
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No he used to be a genji main

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Its one of his best heroes

true hound
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lmao isn’t there a clip of Linkzr using blade and getting no kills and then fleta uses it and kills 4

silk frost
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Its like a super orisa

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Well yeah Linkzr isnt good but its one of Houstons better genjis

plush grail
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what projectile players did houston have at the time?

tawdry hamlet
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in summer showdown the few bits they ran genji they played danteh

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otherwise they just forced tracer ashe/widow

true hound
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S1 Houston had linkzr, Jake, arhan, and clockwork

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If I recall

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I don’t think arhan was played on genji though

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Arhan was the genji for 2016 OWWC for South Korea however

plush grail
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no but like the recent outlaws

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during genji meta

true hound
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ohh

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Danteh or Blase

plush grail
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they had like blase, dante, linkzr

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hydration

tawdry hamlet
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yeah during genji meta they only played genji like a couple rounds

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the rest they forced tracer

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since danteh is just way better on that

mortal abyss
true hound
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ye ik

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Arhan was considered poopoo S1

mortal abyss
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I will never forget stylosa playing for UK OWWC

true hound
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Lmaoo

plush grail
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muselk for australia

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australia was actual garbage

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they had a diamond lucio

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and like a few random well known ladder players

tawdry hamlet
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lmao

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when fusion 4v5 the titans and 3-0 sweep

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good org

mortal abyss
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Do you mean 5v6

tawdry hamlet
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THE Phillip Graham Game

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yes

mortal abyss
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Lol

tawdry hamlet
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I am used to cs angerybongo

plush grail
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playing with chipsa on your team is a instant 5v6

mortal abyss
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I wish we saw more of chipsa 😭

tawdry hamlet
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Never Forget 10:20

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unlucky

mortal abyss
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sO uNlOoKy

tawdry hamlet
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lmaoo

digital cloud
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So unlooky

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
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that was not the games fault!!!!

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loll

true hound
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😭

mortal abyss
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Jeff kaplan intentionally placed that wall there so chipsa would fall off the map

tawdry hamlet
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why was that game such a diverse meta wasn't that during double shield or is it just because it is koth

mortal abyss
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Jeff stream sniper confirmed?!?

plush grail
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guys make your predictions, when is harblue gonna get picked up by a owl team

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my guess is 2025

digital cloud
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Never

tawdry hamlet
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were these all meta last may or was it just what they happened to play lmao

plush grail
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hero bans

tawdry hamlet
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oh yee

plush grail
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different strategies

tawdry hamlet
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I forgot those happened lmao

plush grail
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good riddance man

tawdry hamlet
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idk I lowkey liked them because we didn't have to watch ball every single fucking game

true hound
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Double sniper

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😭

tawdry hamlet
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this meta has gotten so stale to me

plush grail
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hero bans was just a excuse for blizz to not fucking balance the game properly

tawdry hamlet
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it is literally echo ball diff equals win

plush grail
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do we finally nerf double shield??

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NAH LETS JUST DISABLE SIGMA FOR A WEEK

tawdry hamlet
true hound
tawdry hamlet
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Ashe having insane dynamite damage and her original ammo capacity and a stalling ult and 2 kill ability, lets just disable her for a week

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Original Ashe and Sigma I think are the biggest examples of power creep besides brig

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and then ball echo after being irrelevant just come in and take the crown

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when metas are almost entirely new heroes because blizzard can't make new heroes without erasing the need for old ones by giving the new ones far too much kit

plush grail
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its so bad

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like reinhard had a shield

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but he was super immobile when he used it, and was a close ranged hero

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thats balanced

tawdry hamlet
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dva had matrix but weak gun to compensate, rein had shield but no mobility, and then boom sigma pops in and has all 3 plus flux

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like ok

plush grail
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he can block shit and now shoot 2000 damage back instantly

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they just add orisa, give her a shield, pull and damage resist and poke

tawdry hamlet
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Brig having aoe heals, e heals, stun, and shield and a ranged attack is pepega

plush grail
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next hero is just gonna be reinhard but with a gun and he can fly

tawdry hamlet
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honestly

plush grail
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compared the old hero kits to the newer ones tho, it's so poorly done

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widow has a grapple, and a useless venom mine

tawdry hamlet
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idk if I could do better but making a hero that has shield matrix and stun and a stronger primary ranged fire than the other two tanks that play that role was kind of bruh

plush grail
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also echo is just pharah but better imo

true hound
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the new fox hero is just gonna be genji and hanzo combined together but with grav on cd and all the weebs will jerk it to her

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👍

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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echo is more mobile, better shield breaking

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better ult because its every ult

tawdry hamlet
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Beam

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idk it just seems like everytime a new hero came out it stayed meta for a long ass time and it is kind of annoying

next mesa
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According to danteh tracer bullets has travel time? Lol like barely but still

tawdry hamlet
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Tracer Widow have at least held their ground as not being outclassed entirely by new heroes 😎

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then you have people like doomfist who are borderline useless at that level loll

plush grail
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soldier never meta

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because he just doesn't have a special enough kit

cedar oasis
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He was meta

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For owl atleast

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That one time

raw ermine
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when cree and widow were good, and banned

next mesa
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didnt bqb bust out some soldier

cedar oasis
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All I remember is philly vs paris

mortal abyss
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What a game

raw ermine
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voting has already started, so cast your vote

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I'm canadian but I don't trust our team

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Mangachu 100000% won't play

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he only plays wow

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and s4 might not play

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and then were fcked

next mesa
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who wins this one

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omg I was just about to post

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yeah I think denmark

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got my vote

raw ermine
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the dps trio for denmark is CRACKED

hot onyx
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Denmark ez

raw ermine
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and it only has 1 player from last year

next mesa
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either way its gonna be korea vs china finals with korea taking it 4-1

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💀

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yveltal or superich

feral zodiac
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No xqc shocko1Life

hot onyx
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Replaced by ShredCock

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Sadness

earnest leaf
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if only babybay/sinatraa/corey didn't retire

next mesa
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do you think they would've made a difference

earnest leaf
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Probably

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Remember babybay the chad slapped ans around

next mesa
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ans not here anymore

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😔

tight hill
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Korea is crazy

karmic grotto
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ik, the girls right ;)

true hound
plush grail
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or just fan made voting

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will there be actual games played?

raw ermine
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nope

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they made their own teams

plush grail
trail perch
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seoul picking up libero and sbb???

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reuinite the s1 duo

next mesa
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nah it don't make sense

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Profit is better than libero at like

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everything

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except mei?

trail perch
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I mean maybe as like an echo mei specialist

next mesa
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yeah

trail perch
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or maybe as a secondary flex

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Libero also plays hitscan

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Like cree, widow ashe

true hound
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why even be on seoul when profit exists

earnest leaf
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apac I'm not sure on

next mesa
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seoul stonks going up

earnest leaf
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I do think shd and valiant are locks where they are at now

plush grail
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chengdu that high up???

earnest leaf
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but everything in between is interchangeable

trail perch
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All of apac looks great

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We dont know how new look valiant will be

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But if they pickup the entirety of team CC not signed

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Diya, superrich, innovation etc.

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They are going to be stacked

raw ermine
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uh oh
Halsey has a kid now

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Mcgravy's heart 💔

karmic grotto
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he never had a chance

silk frost
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mayhem are a mile higher than they should be imo

tawdry hamlet
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Paris has a better roster than london atm

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all their players individually are cracked, while london gets slapped around by an american team on 150 ping hmm

silk frost
balmy wolf
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london spitfire for the win

tawdry hamlet
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loll just because florida had a bad series at winter ball doesn't mean they will be bottom tier when their roster is very similar to last year and they were top 4 imo

plush grail
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the most pepega take ever

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jesus

tawdry hamlet
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they sidegraded their whole roster from last year so I doubt florida could be that low 😦

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and if reign get ksp they will easily be above houston methinks

plush grail
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i love paris

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i'm 100 simping for them

silk frost
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I thought they were gonna be that low the whole time

plush grail
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i dont know if they'll be able to beat these guys

tawdry hamlet
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what is naga good at besides echo I haven't seen him play in a while

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like pre echo meta

silk frost
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  1. no leader
  2. Slime pepega
  3. Oge unreliable
  4. I have a feeling Fate influenced the team positively very heavily
  5. Limited faith in checkmate
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Naga is a solid mei and pharah

plush grail
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also dallas so high?

tawdry hamlet
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allegedly checkmate is cracked but we shall see, and yeah I could see slime being a detriment because he hasn't started in a year but at the same time bqb and yaki and gargoyle and gangnamjin are solid

next mesa
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checkmate is very nice

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could start

tawdry hamlet
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but oge sux

plush grail
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dallas low**

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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also nyxl at the bottom sadge

next mesa
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oge > muze for now

silk frost
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that was a while ago

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I think muze has overtaken him by now

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at LEAST on ball because muze was really good in the valiant ball

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
silk frost
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true

tawdry hamlet
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I have zero faith in British Hurricane

silk frost
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the tank line is really good

plush grail
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I love how everyone used to hype up britsih hurricane

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and now like 90% ranks paris above them

silk frost
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now the blase signing makes them look worse

plush grail
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the established team gets more praise than the contendies leftovers

tawdry hamlet
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thinking about how they dropped this roster for a contenders team that would get crushed outside of the EU region angerybongo

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they should have just got better coaches and dropped a few extras to save money if it was a budget thing

plush grail
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you are small brain

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im pretty sure they dropped the koreans

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because they're gonna have the players in europe

tawdry hamlet
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I know

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which makes even less sense because europe as a region doesn't exist in owl

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loll

plush grail
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you dont exist to me

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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2 european teams

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but americans want more american team

tawdry hamlet
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idk why they did European expansions in the first place if they were only going to do 2 of them and force them to base themselves in a different continent

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even with homestands its so much extra unnecessary expenses

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at least london won a title though

turbid cargo
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How’s the Houston Outlaw lineup looking? Haven’t been keeping track of anything

plush grail
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jake returned

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dropped a bunch of dead weight

turbid cargo
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WHAT! JAKE!

plush grail
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also dropped some good players sadly

turbid cargo
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who...

plush grail
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and got some new promising talent

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boink and linkzr gone

turbid cargo
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Oof...

noble nexus
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"dropped some good players"

plush grail
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but also jecse and meko

noble nexus
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"boink"

plush grail
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those are the dead weight players

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dumdum

noble nexus
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jecse and meko were the only ones they shouldn't have dropped

turbid cargo
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Who are the new players?

noble nexus
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you said those names after saying good players

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dumdum

tawdry hamlet
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Happy piggy jjanu iirc

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And Joobi

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And ksf

earnest leaf
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Crimzo too

plush grail
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crimwho???

earnest leaf
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dallas fuel guy

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
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Jjangu

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Is what I meant

noble nexus
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it's ok son

noble nexus
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who is crimzo again?

tawdry hamlet
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A moira main yep

earnest leaf
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ex flex support for dallas

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4 golds moira "what is my team doing" headass

turbid cargo
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Hmmm looks good... but I will have to see preformance before I judge anything

noble nexus
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not even moira players can outdamage decay

tawdry hamlet
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According to the graph he's better than moth bro 😎

noble nexus
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best support NA

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only good support to come out of NA

tawdry hamlet
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That is such an unstacked category you could literally call like any good na player flexing to support best support na

weak bolt
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Best NA Flex support of age is what I'd say 😄

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
noble nexus
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oh dude I'm so sorry

plush grail
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or super zen???

noble nexus
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must've slipped my mind

plush grail
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are you already that old dad

tawdry hamlet
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Chipsa monkaS

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Philip Graham the god

plush grail
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no dum chipshajen

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the envyus GOD tank

turbid cargo
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Which teams have the most promising players? (New players not old/returning)

noble nexus
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Justice

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just Mag

tawdry hamlet
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Charge have my kaylee who looks really good so far

noble nexus
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chengdu and spark have new talent too

tawdry hamlet
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Pelican is really good as well

noble nexus
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that look pretty kewl

tawdry hamlet
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And gaga on chengdu and lige on spark

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All good pickups

plush grail
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imagine thinking chengdu is gonna be any good OMEGALAUGHING

tawdry hamlet
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I don't

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But the pickups were good

plush grail
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ok little man i'll let it slide

noble nexus
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yeah

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they won't be good

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but won't be garbage

plush grail
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whose the better soldier 76

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harryhook or dreamkazper?

weak bolt
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Chengdu still have potential honestly. They're like the Florida mayhem of Apac

tawdry hamlet
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I mean potential to be above the bottom 3

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But that's about it

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Spark and charge are just better

plush grail
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above bottom 3 in apac is like

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not good at all

next mesa
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1987 rookie of the year

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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diya roty when

turbid cargo
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Any promising rookies?

plush grail
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Daan

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on the paris eternal

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big player

tawdry hamlet
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But bro I wanted Benbest 😡

noble nexus
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I just want london to do well tbh

turbid cargo
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Any teams that basically reset their lineup?

tawdry hamlet
#

Good luck with that loll

#

London

noble nexus
#

london

plush grail
#

there, i said it

tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
#

they promoted BH

#

well most of BH

plush grail
#

nyxl reset, paris reset, london reset

next mesa
#

daan?

#

watch him flop benbest better

#

💀

turbid cargo
#

Nyxl? Who’s the new players?

next mesa
#

all the new chinese players doe

plush grail
#

flora, yakpung, ivy

weak bolt
#

Chengdu could rival spark/charge imo. I'm not sure they'll keep up vs SHD/Dynasty though

next mesa
#

😋 looking sexy

plush grail
next mesa
#

my boys dynasty also looking hot but fits emp charge rate still slower than my dad going to the store to buy milk 😔

plush grail
#

sorry but he's not coming back

next mesa
#

no plz 😭

plush grail
#

just like how diya is never gonna go to a owl team

noble nexus
#

and fusion aren't gonna win owl

#

or anything for that matter

weak bolt
#

Diya could be joining Wuhan Valiant for all we know

tawdry hamlet
#

According to daan he was in the same trials and scrims as Benbest 🤔🧐

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
#

And got picked over him 😎

next mesa
#

yes the players wanted daan for some reason

plush grail
#

big dick daan

next mesa
#

oh well

#

whatever

#

daan better perform or benbest fans will be like

#

👀

plush grail
next mesa
#

omg I saw that

plush grail
#

imagine roasting your new star pick-up jesus

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
#

who is jjonak

#

where is sbb

#

when is mano

turbid cargo
#

...

#

How...

tawdry hamlet
#

When is hotba 😎

weak bolt
#

Washed player, Washed team, Washed generation 😄

#

(Jokes, before anybody throws scrimbux or past history at me)

plush grail
#

nyxl 5 - 0 shock

#

shock washed

#

nyxl activated

cedar oasis
#

shock is cock

mortal abyss
#

Yep

#

Who are all the left handed players that have been in OWL

next mesa
#

nico

trail perch
#

That’s it rly

#

Most people r normal

mortal abyss
#

oh

#

i knew nico was one but i could of sworn there were more

mortal abyss
next mesa
#

w

#

h

#

a

#

t

mortal abyss
#

there's no way it's actually happening

#

but it would be funny to think about

tawdry hamlet
#

yeah

#

Nico is on shus money crew and they did absolutely horrid in gauntlet so I can't imagine a chinese run team would be jumping to pick him up and force a mixed roster lmaoo

earnest leaf
#

That leak sounds braindead and fake lmao

mortal abyss
#

it's baaz0

earnest leaf
#

french player to the team that is supposedly dropping everyone for chinese players lol

mortal abyss
#

it would probably be more unexpected then the chipsa signing

raw ermine
#

thats bs

#

no way

tropic herald
#

Bazzo is a weird person, yeah they have correct takes sometimes but their overall persona is not it

silk frost
#

throw shit at the wall and see what sticks

sullen berry
#

they're a hot mess

#

same guy that felt leaking the paris eternal roster was his responsibility

tawdry hamlet
#

never forgetti

#

maybe we have found the true origin of covid with this clip

#

bruh pls

#

she just any other person livin life

silk frost
#

damn boi she's spreading bacteria

tawdry hamlet
#

hmm

jolly steeple
#

They've also picked up sh2pe to translate for him

#

its like when beast/silkthread almost got signed to chengdu

tawdry hamlet
#

loll

#

imagine pulling a western player all the way to china

#

and it is just beast lmao

jolly steeple
#

Real talk

#

the beast one was actually supposed to happen

#

in 2018

tawdry hamlet
#

like someone like Nero I could get it, but imagine dragging someone like Beast all the way to china lmao

jolly steeple
#

Nah I can't imagine forcing a bunch of korean and chinese players to speak english just so you can play NERO

#

what a waste

tawdry hamlet
#

catJAM I mean tbf they needed a common language if they mixed chinese and koreans already

#

albeit english typically isn't that language loll

#

idk nero isn't bad

#

but idk if he is worth all the trouble when you have eileen already

jolly steeple
#

he's not horrible but eileen is just a billion times better

#

nero's hero pool doesn't get bigger than like

#

four heroes

hot heart
#

Echo pharah Mei genji can even flex onto the traced

#

*tracer

plush light
#

Don't forget torb

#

And they have glister, so Nero doesn't have to do everything

hot heart
#

Yeah

#

Theoretically you'd want to run Glister Nero for every game

tawdry hamlet
#

what does striker actually do besides tracer?

#

it felt like he got to play a ton because she just stayed relevant but what does he actually play besides her lol

sullen berry
#

striker hanzo

#

ashe is alright, but I think glister can take that off him

next mesa
#

Pharah junk

#

Sym i think?

tawdry hamlet
#

didn't ans play sym

next mesa
#

Honestly striker is a god gamer

tawdry hamlet
#

whenever they used her

next mesa
#

Oh yeah maybe

#

I don't remember lol

#

Actually that would make more sense

tawdry hamlet
#

I don't remember but I vaguely recall a sym kings row teleport strat with ans on sym

#

but I could be wrong loll

noble nexus
#

think that happened

next mesa
#

Yeah it makes more sense tracer on control maps is better

noble nexus
#

sounds familiar

earnest leaf
#

Striker usually was played for reaper/tracer/hanzo/junk

#

But can still play ashe/cree when he needs to

next mesa
#

Oh yes his reaper how could I forget

#

Not saying much but prob a top 3 reaper

#

Although any reaper would look good on shock

silk frost
#

I think he's the best reaper imo

plush grail
#

Why the FUCK

next mesa
#

what

plush grail
#

Would la valiant pick up nico

next mesa
#

no

#

it's troll

plush grail
#

Must be

#

Because didn't halo report about a valiant player joining atlanta

next mesa
#

it literally is nico replied with a laughing gif

#

lmao

plush grail
#

Imagine how fucking funny it would be if dallas end up signing nico and benbest

noble nexus
#

sad that they had good seasons and still had to go back to contendies

sullen berry
#

I think we all sleep on striker when he plays it pretty well

#

eileen can pop off on reaper but that doesn't say much if they still lose the map

next mesa
#

striker plays every hero well man

#

god gamer

noble nexus
#

Reaper isn't the kind of hero that people make top 3's for

#

like moira

#

but more skill

#

although striker reaper looks like it's better than anyone else's

#

imo

tawdry hamlet
#

fleta reaper pretty fatty

#

isn't it one of the heroes he is known for

noble nexus
#

tbf if you put fleta reaper in striker reaper's place fleta reaper would probably be considered the best by a fair few people too

tawdry hamlet
#

yeah reaper is just a hero that at the top level looks the same on most players that are at the top

slow kraken
#

Reaper isn’t that much of a skilled hero

#

Tbh

next mesa
#

I think it's mostly playstyle and what the coaches tell you to do but yeah

#

aim wise or even ult wise

orchid bridge
#

london spitfire

sullen berry
noble nexus
plush grail
#

Whose dad is that?

#

Super?

noble nexus
#

yes

#

that is super

cobalt spoke
#

super looks so old in that pic

mortal abyss
#

kek

hot heart
glossy pilot
#

hey can someone hop in a vc w/ me and explain how the comp scene works

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
#

you pick a favorite team

#

then cry every weekend because they never win

#

your team makes promising changes in the off season

#

and you become hopefull

#

and then it just repeats

cedar oasis
#

Dallas be like

#

Houston be like

#

Valiant be like

next mesa
#

your favourite team beats the dragons, you think they will have a chance at the title this season and then the next week they get swept by the valiant

plush grail
#

nyxl be like

cedar oasis
#

Philly be like

plush grail
#

wow nyxl signed haksal!!

#

weeks later we get haksal on sombra

cedar oasis
#

And libero on hitscan

#

And you dont play Bianca

#

Even tho hotba was trash

plush grail
#

and you picked up mandu

#

and played him like twice

#

then just got rid of him

cedar oasis
#

And pick up whoru when libero is better at everything except genji

#

Even then libero has a good genji

plush grail
#

and your main ashe/widow player just gives up halfway during the season

#

forcing sbb to fill that gap

cedar oasis
#

And you keep the same trash coach

glossy pilot
#

no i meant like how the lower leagues work going into comp

cedar oasis
#

You mean contendies

glossy pilot
#

like if and org was gonna pick up aa team what teps would the team take to becom pro for instance

#

adn what are the returns like

#

i cant find anything usefull on google

cedar oasis
#

Orgs would pick up a top tier team in contenders and put them in owl

#

Like the titans

glossy pilot
#

yes but what i meen is what steps do the team tkae from that point to get toi competative play

#

liek in siege you do natinals , thne chalangers, then pro , there are also community discord leagues ect

#

what are the voerwatch equivilants

plush grail
#

we dont have that

cedar oasis
#

You form a team and go to contenders

glossy pilot
#

so how dfoes it work

#

ok

#

thankls

plush grail
#

you could dominate contenders and still never get picked up to owl

#

no guarrantee

cedar oasis
#

Yea

glossy pilot
#

cool

#

thx

plush grail
#

it's like open division - contenders - overwatch league

#

and there's no real starting point

mortal abyss
#

Usually it goes open div > contenders trials > contenders > OWL

plush grail
#

i remember one of the philly fusion players went directly from ladder to owl

glossy pilot
#

thx

cedar oasis
#

Contenders is kinda dead tho

mortal abyss
#

Ans went from ladder to OWL

glossy pilot
#

so is there any real point in being backed by an= org as a team in contendors

plush grail
#

no ans played pro before

mortal abyss
#

When he was picked up he was just a ladder player though

plush grail
#

still had some professional experience, sado had nothing

cedar oasis
#

Sado was trash for 2 seasons tho

next mesa
#

u dont play libero

#

bench him all season

#

sadge

cedar oasis
#

And then he doesnt get signed even tho he is top 3

plush grail
#

libero is #2 for sure

#

rascal #1

mortal abyss
#

Fleta is #1

#

then its ivy/rascal 2/3

cedar oasis
#

Not ivy

#

Libero and profit are better then ivy

mortal abyss
#

Ivy has the best mei in the league

#

His genji can keep up with sp9rkle

#

his hanzo is disgusting

balmy wolf
#

delusional af

mortal abyss
#

heh

tawdry hamlet
#

we have found the fusion fan in chat

cedar oasis
#

Ivy is not top 5

mortal abyss
#

Couldn't you tell that from my nick

plush grail
#

best flex dps is super

mortal abyss
#

For sure

next mesa
#

Ivy is top 5 pruh

#

bruh*

#

I put #1 profit #2fleta #3rascal #4 libero #5 ivy

#

wait

cedar oasis
#

No

mortal abyss
#

profit #1?

trail perch
#

yeah

#

ofc

#

Lol

#

Flex DPS is more than just proj

#

Profit also plays a rly good ashe, and the 2nd best tracer

mortal abyss
#

ashe isn't a flex dps though

trail perch
#

Its in the name, FLEX dps

#

You need to also be able to play hitscan

#

Look at architect

cedar oasis
#

Eleen

trail perch
#

Flex plays both, proj only plays proj

cedar oasis
#

Is eileen better then ivy

trail perch
#

I would say so

cedar oasis
#

Then Eileen is 5th

mortal abyss
trail perch
#

Its only mei that ivy is better at

mortal abyss
#

Ivy better at hanzo

trail perch
#

When Eileen is a better: Tracer, Genji, Sombra, Doomfist etc.

#

Ok so Mei and Hanzo

#

Eileen is just better and more flexable

mortal abyss
#

idk about giving tracer to eileen

trail perch
#

Eileen is a good tracer lol

mortal abyss
#

so is ivy

trail perch
#

and ivy doesnt play her

#

Lol

mortal abyss
#

yes he does

trail perch
#

No he isnt

cedar oasis
#

Eileen was more impactful this season

trail perch
#

yeah like the charge knew how to win. smth

#

lol

mortal abyss
#

Ivy played her in playoffs when philly did their sombra comp

trail perch
#

becasuse of eileen

mortal abyss
#

I give ivy the edge on reaper aswell

trail perch
#

Reaper doesnt rly matter tho

#

We had this convo earlier

mortal abyss
#

huh

trail perch
#

That anyone could play reaper well with good coaching

#

And KDG is better than Arachne

#

Or whoever else guangzhou had this season

mortal abyss
#

Guangzhou only got arachne this season

trail perch
#

wait then who was their coach last season?

cedar oasis
#

Eileen won something ivy didnt

mortal abyss
trail perch
#

Not rly

#

Most characters require intense mechanical skill

mortal abyss
trail perch
#

Not rly reaper

#

Also MVP

#

Nominated

mortal abyss
#

ok?

trail perch
#

When fusion didnt win a thing

#

And wasnt nominated

mortal abyss
next mesa
#

eileen didn't deserve mvp nomination 💀

mortal abyss
#

That too

#

The main reason he was nominated was because he carried in the genji carry meta

next mesa
#

then why didn't sparkle get an mvp nomination

#

weirdchamp

mortal abyss
#

Xzi carriied in the finals

#

Fusion dedicated so many resources to shutting down sp0rkle

#

honestly impressive he still did well

silk frost
#

Ivy is so underrated

mortal abyss
#

yes

charred salmon
#

yo

gilded dagger
#

Yes

mortal abyss
#

Soo YouTube are making a clip system

#

Now if they make the chat a tad bit better and improve discover ability

raw ermine
#

yeah I saw that

mortal abyss
#

It could be a serious competitor to twitch

#

And OWL could grow as a result

raw ermine
#

they only give it to select channels tho

#

OWL will probably get it tho

#

did they officially announce a token drop system, like COD league has?

mortal abyss
#

No, but there’s little to no chance we don’t get a token drop system aswell

#

They’ll probably announce it closer to the time

next mesa
#

literally have a stream category

#

that shows the top streamers

worn falcon
#

so no chinese

#

only the management

next mesa
#

yeah I saw that

#

if still management they still control all the team members/coaches and all that doe? so 🤔

quiet talon
#

Hi

next mesa
#

Eileen cheated on his gf

#

eileen fuck you bitch

#

cunt

quartz cairn
#

wat

next mesa
worn falcon
tawdry hamlet
#

Eileen 😭

mortal abyss
#

What’s HPV

tropic herald
#

Google is your friend

karmic grotto
mortal abyss
#

Oh

#

OH

feral zodiac
#

Is it confirmed

silk frost
#

Is it weird that I always kinda had a bad feeling about eileen

plush light
#

YOU CAN NERF ZEN BUT YOU CANT NERF VIOL2T

next mesa
#

what'd he do

#

also well at least we'll never had this kind of shit with viol2t

#

"viol2t baby come to bed"
"shut the fuck up bitch im playing ranked"

digital cloud
#

another person on Levy's list of hatred it appears

#

he can never know I secretly post more on the valorant server

next mesa
#

💀

#

I left the valorant server lol

quartz cairn
#

so did eileen test positive

digital cloud
#

doesn't say

#

I am thinking yes since he is actually checking for it

quartz cairn
#

rip both of his gfs

digital cloud
#

well, I assume, but maybe not

#

either way, cheating is pretty scummy

#

don't be like Kephrii or Eileen kids

quartz cairn
#

^

#

i used to watch Kephrii but after what happened i dont anymore

#

sucks cause hes a good widow

digital cloud
#

he was

#

he is like masters now lol

quartz cairn
#

ye he took a big break and nows washed im pretty sure

digital cloud
#

I mean, I don't really hold it against him or anything, but I remembered him as an example

mortal abyss
digital cloud
#

honestly, not really sure how it is our business about his personal life

#

unless the HPV spreading thing is true, I guess, in which case it would probably be public record

turbid cargo
#

Who is the most promising player this owl season

kind ridge
craggy sandal
digital cloud
#

Pelican or mag I would think

#

Maybe kevster or Gaga

next mesa
#

1987

#

Toyou 😱 dare i say

sullen berry
#

so much charge juice

#

HPV rumor was kinda indecent

plush light
silk frost
#

kevster

next mesa
#

profit as always

hot heart
#

Mag

#

Best case scenario he comes the top 2 best MT or maybe even MT in OWL

#

Worst case he's top 5 or 6

worn falcon
#

Sbb as always

vivid dawn
#

Decay as always

next mesa
#

still dont know why decay over diem

hot heart
#

ALOT more flexible

#

And a freak on the traced

#

Diem on this kind of roster would only play the widow and ashe

#

Honestly i think decay could contest diem on the widow

#

So not a big loss

#

Lets say diem could play sombra to a very high level

#

I could see a world where you'd take him over devay

silk frost
#

worst case Mag is the next Gator

digital cloud
#

I still am holding onto hope Gator gets gud

slow kraken
#

Tbh tracer isn’t really hitscan anymore

#

More flex

digital cloud
#

Eh, aim still important for her

true hound
#

hitscan is hitscan

#

just weapon type

digital cloud
#

Faze holds on a little longer

#

Lg kind of looks like a tier 1 now

next mesa
#

What

digital cloud
#

Sup levy

#

oh god he found me

#

Oh, the guy I was talking to isn’t here now

next mesa
#

??? You're always here weirdo

true hound
#

oh

#

man finally changed his Christmas mai pfp

sullen berry
#

I hardly noticed this post.
New players: :ATLReign: Pelican, :NYXL-2: Feat5er/Gwangboong
Existing players: Smurf, Kevster, Fleta

tawdry hamlet
#

in terms of hitscan like widow ashe I think like
S - Diem, Ans, Fits, Decay, Carpe
A- KSP, Xzi, Shockwave, Birdring
B- Soon, Glister, Heesu , Happy
C - Logix, Linkzr, Colorhex, Jerry
D - Dalton

#

that is my tier list at least

#

hmm let me change it a little

#

Xzi would be S if his ashe wasn't dogshit imo

#

since his cree and widow are godly

#

Fits I am not entirely sure about since he matched ans in finals but also had a meh season so hard to tell

silk frost
#

SS- Ans
S- Fits Decay Birdring
A- KSP Xzi Diem Carpe
B- Heesu Soon Happy Logix Glister
C- Linkzr Jerry
D- Dalton Chex

tawdry hamlet
#

Logix isn't B tier anymore

#

I think widow alone Diem is S and his Ashe is really nice

mortal abyss
#

I'd put Glister in A

#

Glister was bsically the APAC version of Shockwave

calm reef
#

Muñañyo

true hound
#

ascended: Blase mccree
SSSSSSS tier: profit overwatch
S tier: ANS KSP Decay FITS
A tier: everyone else

wanton birch
#

best flex is super

plush grail
#

super is one of the few players

#

who has played every role

mortal abyss
#

Hotba

#

also has

plush grail
#

did hotba ever dps?

mortal abyss
#

yeah

#

He played tracer

plush grail
#

when?

mortal abyss
#

I remember on philly and guangzhou

#

if you want a specific example titans vs guangzhou on illios

#

ruins

plush grail
#

how good was he

mortal abyss
#

alright

plush grail
#

i remember hotba moira

#

but not tracer

plush light
#

Anyone remember how boombox is the best hog player on Philly

plush light
#

Nevix played every role

#

So did zebbosai and erster

#

And kariv

#

And architect and libero

hot onyx
#

Don’t forget flex god hydration

mortal abyss
#

eq0 has

hot onyx
#

Oh yeah he did

#

Just when I blocked goats out of my head

plush light
#

I don't count brig in goats

raw ermine
#

When did architect play tank?

plush light
#

Architect can play zarya and hog and dva to a high level. He hasn't done it in owl, but he is very capable. Architect is one of those players who can play anything and everything

mortal abyss
plush light
#

Because it was the role of the dps player at the time

next mesa
next mesa
charred salmon
#

yo what rank is ever one

#

everyone

raw ermine
charred salmon
#

oh ok

slow kraken
#

Flex god mirror?

raw ermine
#

true

#

the record holder

tawdry hamlet
feral zodiac
#

I'd put linkzr in D as well as chex and dalton

#

But he is borderline between D and C

trail perch
#

Linkzr when hes not on is between d and c

#

But when hes on point?

#

B or A easy

digital cloud
#

yeah, you just can't ever count on him being on point previously

#

though he really might do better on a better team for him

feral zodiac
#

He's the definition of inconsistency

trail perch
#

But at his best he is one of the best widows in the league

#

Remember s1

#

Or some parts of s3

jolly steeple
#

I wouldn't even call linkzr inconsistent

#

he's just consistently bad

#

at this point in his career he has like one or two good games a season

tawdry hamlet
#

Hmm

#

Idk he hits important shots sometimes for na standards but not nearly enough

turbid cargo
#

Wait, did pine depart?

tawdry hamlet
#

Pine hasn't been in owl in ages Salutations

turbid cargo
#

O...

#

Idk this stuff, I watched owl season 1 and then kinda stopped

tawdry hamlet
#

I hope with new boston chex can really flourish on widow or ashe, his ladder widow is pretty cracked even if that doesn't mean much

turbid cargo
#

I on,y have really peaked interest In owl again because I wanna see if Jake will be good, if he performs well, I’ll be happy, if he doesn’t preform well ill be disappointed

frank granite
#

Jake is going to see very little playtime - if any

turbid cargo
#

Ik

#

He should see some playtime, but mostly he will prob be “coaching”

jolly steeple
#

Colourhex should not play

#

im37's specialty is raw hitscan