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plush grail
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that would be so fucking funny if the new budget paris beats the expensive af dallas

tawdry hamlet
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I think fearless had a ton of success because iziyaki is a god ana and adjusting to new support will be hard on a character who's kit is literally feeding and depending on ana

mortal abyss
hot onyx
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Because in scrims and practice fury would’ve been hard focused on his sigma game and to take him off and put him on hog imo was a mistake

tawdry hamlet
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Like if you look at fearless on gibraltar with the iziyaki pocket dude literally doesn't drop below 400 health

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It is wild

plush grail
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winston is just

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tactical feeding

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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winston is like dva

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but monke

tawdry hamlet
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Good description 10/10

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I hope Linkzr puts in the work and just has an insane comeback season

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Or Houston with Jake and happy

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Would be fun to watch

mortal abyss
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What was y'alls favourite OWL meta in season 3?

next mesa
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fielder on 29 ping is a very good replacement for izayaki doe

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genji

plush grail
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if fielder ever gets played lmao

tawdry hamlet
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Houston actually has a lowkey decent dps lineup atm which is surprising

next mesa
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I could see rapel having a better zen

mortal abyss
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mine was the countdown cup meta tbh

hot onyx
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Hot take but summer showdown double shield genji was a blast

next mesa
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how is that a hot take

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oh yeah

hot onyx
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Double shield part

next mesa
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people dont like blade for some reason man shut

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peak overwatch gameplay

plush grail
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genji meta was fun

tawdry hamlet
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It was because agilities got to hard cary a top 9 team to 4th lmao

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Fun to see

plush grail
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also the fact that the genji mains who were rotting

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finally got to carry

tawdry hamlet
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Houston beat florida in that meta lmao

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It was so fun to watch

plush grail
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i remember

mortal abyss
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countdown cup meta just was so much fun to watch with good teams

plush grail
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wasnt that when florida shit talked them like

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ah we beat houston earlier this week we'll do it again

mortal abyss
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esp that one philly vs paris match with alarms godmode sleeps

plush grail
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then lost 3-1

mortal abyss
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yeah it was

plush grail
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also eqo clutch

hot onyx
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Eqo clutch was the highlight of my year

next mesa
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summer showdown was the best

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paris vs shock followed by paris vs philly all last maps were just absolute fucking juicy bangers

mortal abyss
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true

plush grail
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owl saw that we liked genji suddenly being meta so they were like hey lets do it again with hog for play-offs

tawdry hamlet
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Linkzr in that houston series unironically popped off

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Hog meta change lowkey bothers me so much because the best teams all season just got flopped on but it also meant that the teams who could adapt to that meta on a whim are more versatile and therefore better teams

plush grail
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genji meta was still okay

tawdry hamlet
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Shock literally had every single meta easily except genji 😐

plush grail
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teams like shock just forced ashe tracer i think

hot onyx
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Yeah seeing teams like paris and gaungzhou get ripped to shreds was depressing

next mesa
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genji >>>>>>>>>>>>> hog meta

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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fuck guangzho

next mesa
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eileen was cracked

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it's sad he didn't participate in the all stars genji event

hot onyx
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Mate I’m not a guangzhou fan myself but to see them fall that flat on their faces was sad

plush grail
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imagine if they buff pharah a ton before owl s4

tawdry hamlet
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Hog meta at least gave us playoff seoul PogChimp

next mesa
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sadge

tawdry hamlet
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So that's something

plush grail
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s4 gets to start with a fucking pharah meta

next mesa
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I wanted to see eileen vs sparkle

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omg

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profit would fuck

tawdry hamlet
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Pharah metas 😭

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Profit is such a good pharah

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Not that she's a high skull ceiling hero

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But still loll

plush grail
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i feel like the genji meta really made sparkle overhyped imo

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he joined, became 18 just as his best hero becomes meta

tawdry hamlet
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Well yeah because he's easily the best genji in the world people just forgot that outside of genji he's useless

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Except for an emp bot

hot onyx
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Yeah not like he has a fantastic doom or anything

tawdry hamlet
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Doom is almost never meta tho monkaS

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So who cares lol

plush grail
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when was the last time doom was used for anything but getting back fast

tawdry hamlet
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Anything other than Lijang and doom doesn't exist

hot onyx
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Okok you got me there

next mesa
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prob has best doom too

tawdry hamlet
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He's fun to watch people who are insane at him pop off but he's so unfeasible because he has the owl problem of fat close range heroes not doing well ever

next mesa
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he could totally force doom if he's like slightly playable

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not rn doe DVaSmug

plush grail
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no best doom is blase by far

next mesa
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nein

tawdry hamlet
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Bro did you just say Chipsa isn't best doom !! Bro

hot onyx
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Who needs chipsa when you have roolf?

plush grail
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chipsa in owl, good joke

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whats your next joke

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rascal and libero finding a team?? OMEGALAUGHING

tawdry hamlet
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Everyone says finals coaching for philly was bad but are we going to ignore the og bruh moment of coaching by signing a meme streamer doomfist one trick

next mesa
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I mean

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30% more fans

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pretty worth

tawdry hamlet
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Do you guys think he did good in like any form of trials or you think they just straight signed him

plush grail
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100% jokes

next mesa
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also ik i didnt talk about seoul's two humongous absolutely meaningful dubs this weekend even though im huge seoul fan I watched the 2 games im on the bandwagon boys 😎

hot onyx
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Just signed for the fanbase

plush grail
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i dont know if he even joined scrims

tawdry hamlet
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Would have been cool to see like an actual chipsa strat but chipsa just doesn't fit a team like fusion loll he's more suited for somewhere like Houston where being a low mid meme is acceptable

hot onyx
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More of a streamer pickup like they did with kabaji and emongg but they let him play a little

next mesa
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seoul wins

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2021

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easy

tawdry hamlet
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One map right lmao

next mesa
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profit finals mvp

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toyou rookie ofthe year

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bye

plush grail
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sbb finals mvp

tawdry hamlet
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Profit the next time brady bro bet

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He collecting more playoff dubs

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Tom brady idk why it changed to time

next mesa
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they bench profit for sbb and gets full held

tawdry hamlet
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Sad

next mesa
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🗿

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sadge

weak bolt
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Seoul strong scrimbux, means they'll shit the bed in actual season

next mesa
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honestly they could try sbb to play sombra instead

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his sombra kinda nut

plush grail
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nyxl beat shock, they're my new #1

true hound
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profit is mad now

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he said hes gonna try even harder

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after getting 2nd place

tawdry hamlet
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Owl is getting hyped for an underdog to win first teamfight and then getting insta capped and full held next fight

true hound
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playoffs profit becomes permanent

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
tawdry hamlet
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Lmao

true hound
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sbb neva gonna see the light of day

hot onyx
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I know it’s a meme and all but seeing vancouver anywhere above the bottom is unsettling for me

next mesa
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fr

tawdry hamlet
weak bolt
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Atlanta's best chance of being the top team is that the Chinese buyer pulls out of LAV and buys Reign instead 😄

next mesa
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vancouver bottom

hot onyx
tawdry hamlet
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I feel like a team of washed up american players beating hurricane really really hurt their power rankings 😐

plush grail
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yeah some random americans beating them made me place them just above glads and shock but not over houston yet

tawdry hamlet
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True bro

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Idk if theyll best ksf

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He's insane

plush grail
tawdry hamlet
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Loll

plush grail
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wait no fuck its ksp

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who is in china limbo

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
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Imagine being adam

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Grinding aus contenders for ages and finally getting a chance in owl only for it to be snatched away with a chinese buyout

plush grail
hot onyx
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Doesn’t mean he wasn’t eligible to play in aus contenders

plush grail
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oce owl

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joke

hot onyx
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Gotta get their players from somewhere

tawdry hamlet
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Nice ad for teef

plush grail
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how to smile when your favorite team is losing to uprising

mortal abyss
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you dont

cedar oasis
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That's gotta hurt

mortal abyss
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I feel like everyone roots for boston to win unless it's against their team

tawdry hamlet
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Lmao

next mesa
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facts

plush grail
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diya never signed

next mesa
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shut up bitch

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my last hope is valiant getting bought

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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sad

balmy wolf
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Is there any other channel that you can look for groups? like exactly like this one (a big one)?

limber pine
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!!lfg

young fractalBOT
feral zodiac
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Boston are never gonna beat Shanghai's record because the glads exist

silk frost
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I have no clue what this means

feral zodiac
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Check out glads record agaisnt boston

silk frost
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O-oh

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Yeah

sullen berry
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kanezaka kinda sleeper

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O2 Boyz which is literally 5/6 of their team took out Korea

next mesa
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?

sullen berry
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I was following EU more and really thought France had it over Winland

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I'm pleasantly disappointed

worn falcon
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baguette masters

next mesa
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lastro to jsutice?

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or maybe finally rascal/libero 🙄

tawdry hamlet
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Probably libero methinks but then again they need a support backup

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Libero would solidify them top 4 tho imo

trail perch
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Libero, but he pulls an architect and only plays ana

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or

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or

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or

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hear me out

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Bazzi, but he transitions back to flex support

earnest leaf
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nah

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chipsa

trail perch
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then flexes onto doomfist

plush grail
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Diya

trail perch
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when they get rid of role lock in ow2

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idk the doomfist ana 2 trick is a deadly combo

raw ermine
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not the full thing

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just a clip

trail perch
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Someone might get like real mad at u for sending that

raw ermine
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If any staff want me to remove it, I can

next mesa
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yeah I saw that

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what an insane fucking gamer

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I swear his primal does more damage than mine 🗿

feral zodiac
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Did New York actually beat shock in scrims?

silk frost
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who's the 2nd dps for nyxl there

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is that gwangboong?

craggy sandal
silk frost
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also ivy isn't on mei

tropic herald
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I wish they would sell owl keycaps

raw ermine
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Whoops sorry for posting it mods I see you have removed it

next mesa
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its on reddit

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anyway it's an insanep rimal

tropic herald
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Yeah cool whatever, I’d rather not have this server be linked to leaking scrims

next mesa
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okay

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let's just keep it in our hearts

jolly steeple
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Those codes have gone everywhere anyway

feral zodiac
jolly steeple
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I saw some "aspiring caster" live cast those private scrims on his stream

tropic herald
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I wouldn’t take scrims for anything rn

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OWL probably won’t even start on this patch and scrims just started

jolly steeple
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Shock always suck until like a month into the season anyway

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This is to be expected

tropic herald
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Also Shock doesn’t have all their players in Korea so there is a lot of things about the scrims that aren’t reliable

plush light
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Rascal libero is gonna be the number one support line in season 4

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On Justice

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Rascal on main support, libero on flex support

tawdry hamlet
worn falcon
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Libero on zen, yes baby

trail perch
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I mean rascal top brig and bap

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not like the best but like still vry good

next mesa
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facts

earnest leaf
next mesa
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shibal shibal shibal

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no okay bitch

rare magnet
worn falcon
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He is duoing with rawkus

earnest leaf
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on tank

feral zodiac
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I guess you could say he's

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Cranky

next mesa
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sign revenge

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what happened to runaway

trail perch
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they died

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Now they resign bumper

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kaiser

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etc

plush light
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Lastro is a genji god. Trash flex support compared to genji. Its just to good.

fading onyx
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Im not really into Owl but who is the favorite or the best, who won the last season?

plush light
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Sf shock and sf shock

tropic herald
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SF Shock won

plush grail
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the clear favorites for this season are dallas tho

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with a super flexible dps line-up that can play everything

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and good coaching and decisions made by coaches

tawdry hamlet
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They really need a flex and they'd be equivalent to last year's shanghai Salutations

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Well idk, lowkey iziyaki is better than the em supports

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Not even lowkey iziyaki is cracked

plush grail
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even if they got iziyaki

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they'd prolly still play rapel jescse

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coaches are weird

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and the dps line up is odd

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can't wait for the moment where paris beats dallas

tawdry hamlet
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Iziyaki molly bouts to be the best flex duo you've ever seen Salutations

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Molly slaps ass

plush grail
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when are you making the owl debut

tawdry hamlet
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Idk bro but the valiant might pick me up I hear they got openings soon monkaS

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Except im not chinese which could be a problem

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Lowkey forgot chengdu got 4th in countdown cup lmao

plush grail
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did chengdu even play

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i thought they were just a meme?

tawdry hamlet
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I think I slept through most of the matches in apac for countdown cup

plush grail
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lazy fuck

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for me apac is always like 10 am to 1 pm

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and na is like

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11 pm to 2 am

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its ass

tawdry hamlet
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Bro apac is like 3am-6am for me leave me alone

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And na was always like 12pm to 6pm or so

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West Coast us 😎

plush grail
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ew americans

tawdry hamlet
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Valid

plush grail
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invalid

earnest leaf
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Dallas are favorites this season?

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that's a good joke

plush grail
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i know

serene fiber
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the takes in this server remind me of youtube chat

weak bolt
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You need hot takes to keep things lively in off season

serene fiber
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like how can no one bring up how good piggy is

weak bolt
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Think we’re all burnt out on hyping up contenders players until they prove it in owl

serene fiber
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yea but piggy is just different

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hes just sooooooo good

weak bolt
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We shall see in s4, owl is a whole different level to anything else

tawdry hamlet
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I mean everyone knew piggy was almost guranteed a contract but nobody is hyped for him because he got a contract from a universally bad team that only made minor upgrades to an unsuccessful roster and downgraded supports

serene fiber
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what?????

tawdry hamlet
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Happy for Linkzr is fat tho Salutations

serene fiber
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happy is without a doubt the best widow

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by far

tawdry hamlet
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Hell nah

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Maybe like two years ago lol

serene fiber
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joobi and crimzo are soo underrated

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and piggy is just a god

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while jjanggu is solid

tawdry hamlet
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Crimzo aka I have all the gold medals guys why are we losing headass yep

serene fiber
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you clearly dont know how the game works if you think this way

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good riddance

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youll see when piggy slaughters the league

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in the end

tawdry hamlet
serene fiber
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piggy will be at the top

weak bolt
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Houston could be a dark horse this year if it all clicks, but I’m still doubtful their support line is good enough

serene fiber
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see they are criminally underrated

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youll see

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you will all see

next mesa
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crimzo aka bad

tawdry hamlet
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Happy isn't better than diem or Ans or Carpe or Xzi Salutations

next mesa
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facts

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idk about caroe

tawdry hamlet
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Well maybe Xzi idk

next mesa
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carpe*

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maybe maybe

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either way it's not close

tawdry hamlet
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Kind of true, carpe is a solid widow but seems to get outclassed by the top ones

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Happy was widow goat like a while ago at least

next mesa
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when

tawdry hamlet
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Idk I thought he fucked a lot on widow like a season or so ago lmao I was reading old stuff and everyone was on about happy and Linkzr being insane

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Must have been old if Linkzr was considered good tho lmaoo

noble nexus
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no one has to be better than Ans anymore because he isn't here to dick some shitters down :(

tawdry hamlet
weak bolt
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Peak linkzr is amazing, his issue is consistency

next mesa
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idk dawg I dont remember a time where linkzr is considered best widow

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its okay we still have diem 👀

noble nexus
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linkzr having a good day is pretty nutty

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he has a good day once in a blue moon tho

tawdry hamlet
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I think early early Linkzr back when dreamkazper beat him was like really good I think

weak bolt
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We should get a fair bit of Carpe vs Diem this year at least

tight axle
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Yeah. Ngl I hope for like one of the all stars games they do a widow deathmatch but it's only goat widows so Saya pine ans (maybe flow3r)

noble nexus
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If Diem doesn't get more playtime this season it's a war crime

tawdry hamlet
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True

next mesa
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fr

weak bolt
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I’m not sure he’ll get much outside of widow meta

next mesa
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I still think he's better than lip

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and ashe too

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Why does he only get played when it only matters?

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because diem is built diff-

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😌

tawdry hamlet
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Maybe better than lip on two heroes but lip cree I think is better

next mesa
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maybe maybe

noble nexus
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lip cree and sombra are nuts

weak bolt
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Lip is more flexible and SHD like that I think

next mesa
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in a sombra meta yes they should def play lip

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hitscan heavy ashe widow doe play diem plz

tawdry hamlet
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Man erster is such a nice upgrade for shanghai though thinking about all the times they played dding and are able to play erster now is hype

earnest leaf
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shanghai will fuck once again this season

noble nexus
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the only questionable piece for shanghai is fate tbh

weak bolt
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Erster kind of benched unless there is a super weird meta

noble nexus
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but Moon has his grand scheme so fuck it

earnest leaf
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Fate will do well

next mesa
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no seoul will win because their roster vid is better

noble nexus
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agreed

tawdry hamlet
earnest leaf
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Good point

next mesa
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honestly fate outperformed fearless

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He feeded way less

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im not gonna lie fearless ball questionable questionable

weak bolt
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I think Fate is better across all the MT heroes. Fearless is just a far better monkey

tawdry hamlet
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I think fearless still getting used to a new team. But fearless lowkey looking less and less flexible as time goes by

noble nexus
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I think it was just easy to look good on shanghai last season

earnest leaf
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inb4 dallas has a negative record if orisa is meta all season

tawdry hamlet
noble nexus
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orisa being meta all season wouldn't surprise with how many curveballs they throw at us

next mesa
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no no no u guys dunking and disrespecting fearless now

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dont bandwagon he's still god tier

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however

weak bolt
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Dallas probably like a horse meta, as Hanbin probably gets to play sigma

next mesa
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they are just not as good

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dont forget that fearless lead reverse sweep against seoul may melee mkay destroyed my hopes and dreams

tawdry hamlet
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He is great for sure but outside monkey and rein he is just A tier instead of the usual S yep

earnest leaf
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yea

noble nexus
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^

next mesa
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yeah which is still cracked

tawdry hamlet
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But then again who even is S tier ball and orisa besides like smurf monkaS

next mesa
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let's be real here

weak bolt
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I’m not even sure his rein is S tier. His monkey is for sure though

next mesa
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ameng

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gaga now maybe

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his rein is pretty S tier i'd put him just behind super but since he had like almost no palytime on him people say sado better and its like oh well

tawdry hamlet
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Ameng a prophet learning ball so far in advance waiting for this meta 😎

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Our true savior

weak bolt
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I think ameng barely plays this year. All MTs been grinding ball for months, it’s going to narrow gap significantly

tawdry hamlet
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Yeah I worry about play time with gaga being so flexible

earnest leaf
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chengdu gonna go crazy again and force ball comps 24/7

tawdry hamlet
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Loll

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That was fun to watch

next mesa
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dallas signs ball just for ball

weak bolt
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I could see him being a control point only player or something

tawdry hamlet
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Is the british ball and the youtuber ball the same person I genuinely have no idea

serene fiber
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gaga ball good tho no?

tawdry hamlet
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It is yee

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I worry about ameng play time since gaga can do most heroes he can better and has a pretty good ball

tawdry hamlet
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Ah I see

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That guy is nuts

weak bolt
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I’m looking forward to Sado/Beast on ball

next mesa
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I think he's the best ball

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like just purely ball wise

serene fiber
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beast will bench sado

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sado is super overrated

earnest leaf
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i'm interested to see how sado will do

next mesa
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god damn the things he can do on that hero is cracked

weak bolt
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Toronto going to be awful as ball meta

earnest leaf
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just overall

serene fiber
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he will do bad

tawdry hamlet
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He is literally nuts in his highlight vids like even better than ameng lmaov

serene fiber
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he doesnt have alarm to carry him

next mesa
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I mean yeah

tawdry hamlet
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Dude has like rollouts for every situation on every map

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Wild ball

next mesa
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mano says he literally watches ball

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to get better

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not surprised tbh u watch best player

serene fiber
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you have to watch ball players to get better at ball

weak bolt
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Ball plays ranked though tbf, you can get away with a lot more shit vs owl

tawdry hamlet
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Even more surprising he's barely played professionally too

next mesa
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wasn't he on avoided

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wait

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I forgot

serene fiber
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yes

next mesa
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like a contenders team

serene fiber
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hes the carry

next mesa
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honestly they almost beat british fucking hurricane it was cracked

weak bolt
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Ball will be nerfed by April anyway

serene fiber
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Hurricane suck

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and it will show in owl

tawdry hamlet
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Loll avoided when they played bastion main in gauntlet

weak bolt
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Too many of the pros saying ball is OP

next mesa
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ball is not that op the other tanks just suck

tawdry hamlet
serene fiber
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like blizz listens to the pros

earnest leaf
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I can't wait for blizz to nerf ball, and not buff any other tank

next mesa
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I still think they need to revert sigma buff like lowkey just make his shield weaker

serene fiber
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no

next mesa
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it makes sigma doodoo to play

serene fiber
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nerf him mpre

next mesa
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feel wise

weak bolt
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Never going to be agreement on tanks, as everyone has favourites

serene fiber
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no

tawdry hamlet
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Sigmas kit is just far too adaptable to make other tanks useful in a lot of metas because power creep go brr

serene fiber
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just nerf sigma

next mesa
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also idk why they nerfed zen projectile speed

serene fiber
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rework sigma

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just make him fly

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thats it

next mesa
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and honestly zen just balances between 30% and 25% whether it's a poke meta or not

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when poke meta disappears he will become shit again

tawdry hamlet
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Blizzard dumps out heroes with kits that do more than all the other heroes and then wonders why they are unbalanced

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Brig moment

serene fiber
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ok well have fun on uneducated takes

tawdry hamlet
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Shield stun aoe heals and armor monkaS

weak bolt
#

I was a fan of the Winston Zarya meta honestly, gimme more of that

tawdry hamlet
#

Double bubble CATJAM

earnest leaf
#

Give me a map dependent meta swapping between dive and rush

next mesa
#

facts facts

weak bolt
#

It was like a weird hybrid between dive and rush

next mesa
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genji ana meta

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with no brig or bap involved

weak bolt
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Genji metas are boring as fuck to me. Genji gets blade, nano it, next fight

next mesa
#

no u

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blade is just an art form

earnest leaf
#

Yea when genji is meta it just revolves around blade 99% of the time

next mesa
#

would be better if no orisa pull

earnest leaf
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He's just really flashy

next mesa
#

GOOD

tawdry hamlet
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Watching flashy heroes is fun 😎

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Watching widows pop off or doomfist getting a fat kill streak is just something else CATJAM

next mesa
#

fr I dont like to play against widow but hello seeing them click heads yes please

weak bolt
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I like flashy plays that aren’t just press q and slash 6x

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Tracers or Echos are one of the fun flashy heroes to me

tawdry hamlet
#

Fat bombs are fun I won't deny that

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Or the thread the needle bombs to take out orisa and the supercharger

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Those are pog

earnest leaf
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give me a meta where tracer/mcree/mei/hanzo/widow/echo are the dps picks

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Those are usually the most fun for me to watch

tawdry hamlet
#

Ah so this meta except with real tanks?

earnest leaf
#

actually drop widow and put reaper in

weak bolt
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Swap Mcree for junkrat and I’m in

earnest leaf
#

Mei reaper rein rush is fun af to watch

weak bolt
#

Who doesn’t love some j silly

tawdry hamlet
#

Ok idk if it's just me but sombra is so boring to watch

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Sombra metas suck

next mesa
#

gimme a doom pharah meta

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with rein zar

weak bolt
#

Emp is nearly as bad as nano blade really. Least you can kind of out play it tactically

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Winston Zarya tracer echo zen mercy, gimme that for a month

raw ermine
#

gimme stage 3 s2 meta

weak bolt
#

Triple dps vs goats? I’m in

next mesa
#

I want genji to be meta right before playoffs and sparkle carries fuel to championship

weak bolt
#

That’d be an unbearable combo of fuel and sparkle fans

next mesa
#

no check it

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this time profit will be there to stop him

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🗿

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second place HE'S MAD

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although im not gonna lie profit's echo still looks like shit

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choisehwan kinda dunked on him

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just a lil bit

true hound
#

🗿

digital cloud
#

Could be bull, but dogman has claimed Atlanta has signed a player, and that Shaxx might be going to London

#

On his new little show thing

next mesa
#

shax leaving?

#

damn

digital cloud
#

Well, maybe

#

I don’t trust dogman any more than halo

trail perch
#

halo is pretty trustworthy tho

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lol

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He got like 3 things wrong this offseason

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And like 10 right

tropic herald
#

I trust the Atlanta signing someone leak but idk about shax leak

plush light
#

Shax isn't going to London. London already said they finished their roster for 2021

next mesa
#

if shax is available doe after they said that 👀 i mean

tropic herald
#

You asked for it, and you got it!

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This means owl tokens are back

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And drops in general

digital cloud
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Or maybe it only worked for cod lol

tropic herald
#

Here’s what I have in response to that

raw ermine
#

why did he @ samito tho?

true hound
#

samito caster

raw ermine
#

hardly a caster

next mesa
#

because samito is the one that @ overwatchleague first

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he's just big brain like that

raw ermine
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oh I see

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just opened the tweet

sullen berry
sullen berry
hot heart
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Kai will be replying SharP

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*replacing

tawdry hamlet
#

that could be massive for atlanta lowkey but pelican is already solid and they should kind of focus on their other roles first

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but if they could get him I wouldn't give him up either so fair play

earnest leaf
#

Wait pelican/ksp

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that's kinda nasty

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If this is rumored by halo now, and to be true

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We'll get the valiant shitstorm soon

plucky obsidian
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why did nyxl sign ivy

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he can play like 3 heroes

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genji s his best

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not even meta

mortal abyss
#

...

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ivy was one of the best flex dps last year

grave sail
plucky obsidian
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no

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im not...

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he rlly struggled vs specialists

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tho

plucky obsidian
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@mortal abyss youre clearly a fusion fan. No bias at all smh

mortal abyss
#

But ivy was still one of th ebest flex dps last year, his mei was probably the best in the league, his genji kept up with spa9rkle's and his hanzo was godlike

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those are the only heroes he needed to play

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his reaper and tracer were also great

mortal abyss
plush grail
#

it's odd that nyxl even were able to pick up ivy

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because i'm pretty sure most players if not all players on nyxl have the minimum contract rn

cedar oasis
#

Not jjonack

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Or yakpung

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Also ivy has a good junk

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I wouldn't put it past blizzard to make junk meta next season

plush grail
#

im pretty sure jjonak was also minimum contract

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there were rumors of nyxl trying to sell jjonak for 50k a few months ago

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but yeah he's a decent player but super marketable

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so he might get a bit more

raw ermine
#

only a coach tho

hot heart
#

What if Miro just gets picked up for shock as a coach next year after he leads team diamond to win contenders Korea

plush grail
grave sail
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his echo was also good

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and he has a solid tracer, sombr and ashe

next mesa
#

KSP and Shax rumors

#

Valiant is getting sold man

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you know what this means

#

its diya time 😎

plucky obsidian
#

@grave sail i agree

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but we all know sp9rkle had the best genji

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maybe whoru or haksal

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but sp9rkle dominated

mortal abyss
#

sp9rkle dominated in sumer showdown

plucky obsidian
#

ye

mortal abyss
#

less so in the countdown cup

plucky obsidian
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in genji meta

thin relic
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but that could have changed obviously

plucky obsidian
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hi 🙂

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all

next mesa
#

he was going to retire after team cc found a replacement for him

plush grail
#

@next mesa yooo check the valiant twitter, diya didn't get signed and is never getting signed!

next mesa
#

yoo shut the fuck up~~

plush grail
#

man your life must suck

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first you were a lunatic hai fan

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they all just leave

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then jhong becomes a bitch

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and now you need a team to collapse just for you fav player to have a chance

next mesa
#

my life's actually pretty good rn but yeah jehong :/

plush grail
#

well at least your owl related luck sucks

#

the levy curse

next mesa
#

:/

grave sail
next mesa
#

why did they play eqo instead of ivy in summer showdown then kinda weird

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ivy probably has the better genji but like

mortal abyss
next mesa
#

why not just

grave sail
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because eqo had a better grasp on the early genji meta

mortal abyss
#

and summer showdown genji was more like a brawler and i guess eqo fit that playstyle better

plush grail
#

why is eqo so underrated

tight axle
#

Ngl i loved eqo. His genji was insane and his echo was pretty good. The problem is hes now prob gonna be benched for shockwave whos echo is also pretty good (maybe a bit better?) but has a slightly wider hero pool

raw ermine
#

shock is hitscan+echo

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eqo will play

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his genji crosshair placement is nuts

worn falcon
plush grail
#

sbb is never gonna be a bitch

worn falcon
#

Eqo was really good in the previous season too, maybe ivy didn't felt well that time vs Paris.

next mesa
#

seoul looks kinda sexy doe 👀

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toyou ate like at least half of eileen's pulse bombs I swear to god

#

absolute god gamer super inspirational

cedar oasis
#

Nearly all the apac teams could be a top tier team

willow drum
#

I do wonder how SF Shock is going to do this season

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Probably the same as always

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One of the Top Teams

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But i'm just worried Ta1yo or FDgod wont be able to hold their wieight

cedar oasis
#

You should worry about glister

silk frost
#

I mean only reason to be concerned about Glister is if you expect him to be ans

jolly steeple
#

Why would we worry about Glister

#

hes an elite hs

feral zodiac
#

Fdgod and viol2t might be too much feeding

jolly steeple
#

I mean fdgod doesn't feed

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but moths brain was vital to the team

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so it might harm them

mortal abyss
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As long as shock keep viol2t smurf and striker they'll probably stay number 1

jolly steeple
#

Not necessarily true

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they have a bad fdps situation

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There's also a very slight chance that Choi becomes a problem vs top teams

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and that the lack of moth is a huge problem

feral zodiac
mortal abyss
feral zodiac
#

I fail to see the dps problem

limber pine
#

it's more of a dps unknown if anything

#

but I wouldn't call it a problem either

feral zodiac
#

Striker glister tay1o nero can cover pretty much all they need

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Oh and super

jolly steeple
#

Nero and Ta1yo aren't particularly great

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Like up to the level of top teams

mortal abyss
limber pine
#

We've seen Nero and Ta1yo very little over the past year, so it's hard to say that they're not great

mortal abyss
#

Apparently crusty hasn't startd doing 1 to 1 coaching with ta1yo yet

limber pine
#

also, projectile metas are rare these days. in double hitscan it'd be glister and striker anyway

jolly steeple
#

Yeah hopefully they can just play Glister Striker

feral zodiac
jolly steeple
#

and hopefully one of them can play echo well

mortal abyss
feral zodiac
#

Ty

wanton birch
#

Honestly I don’t get why shock still have ta1yo

plush grail
#

yeah idk why they have 2 projectile players

next mesa
#

ta1yo do be hitscan doe

sand violet
#

taiyo will either be developed or sold

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if theyre keeping him its because they still want to develop him or they havent gotten a good offer yet

tawdry hamlet
#

Taiyo be farming dat money for scrimming

shy sun
#

Taiyo ZaryaStrong

tawdry hamlet
#

Fax

raw ermine
#

they just went silent since the halo leak

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lmao

#

not the best look

digital cloud
#

I hate when halo is probably right

mortal abyss
#

😭

trail perch
#

Why do yall hate halo so much

#

He mostly reports facts

#

and he's usually right

mortal abyss
#

but facts that make me cry 😭

digital cloud
#

because he is wrong so often

trail perch
#

He's literally not tho

#

This off season he got like 3 things wrong and like 10 right

next mesa
#

morel ike 20 right but yeah

trail perch
#

yeah

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And he leaked valiant

digital cloud
#

anything less than 95% is pretty shit for someone that is supposed to have good sources

trail perch
#

he only got like muze,sanguinar and apply wrong

digital cloud
#

muze sanguinar and apply are all big

trail perch
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Not rly, just muze

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apply doesnt rly matter

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and sanguinar was good, but not like top tier

digital cloud
#

I mean, so was glister, but here everyone is hyping him to hell due to the shock

next mesa
#

he reported muze too early

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just like

trail perch
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Glister was great, but not top tier, and people still hype him from Gen G

next mesa
#

nero

trail perch
#

but he corrected himself on nero

#

and saying that a different buyer stepped in

digital cloud
#

correcting oneself as much as he does is not good either

trail perch
#

But his corrections are right lol

digital cloud
#

you guys can like him, that is fine, but don't pretend such a high failure rate is a good thing

trail perch
#

Messing 3 things up an entire offseason isnt a high failure rate

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Dont forget that he also pre leaked BH to LS

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and the whole valiant thing

digital cloud
#

the valiant thing is still not entirely confirmed, and he made mistakes before this off season

balmy wolf
#

any pc nerds here im hella confused

digital cloud
#

is this relevant to owl?

tawdry hamlet
#

that is like him leaking mcgravy and getting it wrong

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who cares lmao

#

for an unaffiliated independent dude just talking around twitter I would say halo does alright lol

#

like I know he does more than that but at the end of the day when you are not in the orgs themselves you can't guess them all

earnest leaf
#

didn't he completely drop the ball on the new titans roster for when they imploded last season

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And quit reporting off OW because of it I think

digital cloud
#

He did for a while, I believe

raw ermine
#

dang I forgot, he quit about something

digital cloud
#

Not sure why he made the bet he did

raw ermine
#

was it titans?

digital cloud
#

I think so

earnest leaf
#

iirc he said third impact was gonna be picked up

digital cloud
#

It was a big bet, whatever it was

#

Yeah

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That was it

tawdry hamlet
#

instead it was second wind 😮

#

well half ex second wind

digital cloud
#

I mean, look, I don’t hate the guy

#

But journalists aren’t supposed to be wrong that often

#

You need to get your ducks lined up in a row, it isn’t professional

raw ermine
#

oh yeahh

digital cloud
#

I get he isn’t literally 50/50 or whatever, but come on

next mesa
#

he said it before he's not really a journalist he calls himself "reporter/influencer" but yes

raw ermine
#

it was 3rd impact

digital cloud
#

I know he isn’t a journalist, but if he expects me to believe his stuff I expect quality

tawdry hamlet
#

that is fair but thinking more on like Sports Journalism as a whole like they talk about broad things like "Hmm there are rumors deshaun watson is in talk with (insert team)" it doesn't mean they are wrong if he ends up somewhere else it just means the rumors and speculation were wrong

digital cloud
#

Thing is, people here treat it as true

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And I am reasonably confident halo knows that

#

Though tbf, I am not entirely sure

tropic herald
#

Another fun Guest

digital cloud
#

shame he and platchat get no views basically

mortal abyss
#

Dustins guests are stacked

raw ermine
#

When's Dusttin gonna run out of guests? they're all great, but their being used up quickly

hot heart
#

Ye

mortal abyss
#

He will use every single person who watches OWL as a guest

raw ermine
#

lmaoo platchat makes a roster building OWWC episode

#

every single team has like, 4 people AT MOST per role, most often 2, as possiblities to choose from

#

China has 6 per role

#

korea has like 20 per role

#

LMAO

weak bolt
#

Not surprising, China/Korea have huge talent pools, everywhere else is bad for that

raw ermine
#

wow, I just mentally made a team SK from the list plat chat made, and mine was identical to theres, except they chose LJG over slime

next mesa
#

S

#

L

#

I

#

M

#

E

#

???

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Also did they just say ksf play widow?

#

Did they mess up with ksp

balmy wolf
#

ksf does play hitscan occasionally

trail perch
#

Ksf was a nutty widow

raw ermine
#

yeah

#

KSP is now Kai, and plat chat called him Kai now

#

so no mistake

weak bolt
#

You could honestly make 5 Korean teams and probably 3 chinese teams and they'd still beat everyone else there

tropic herald
#

If certain US players would actually do the WC then USA would have a pretty Pog lineup

raw ermine
#

we lost rawkus, sleepy, and dogman between 2019-20

tropic herald
#

Ultraviolet

raw ermine
#

Lukemino

sullen berry
#

I find the non OWL guests equally as good

#

Which for those who arent interested says a lot about esports appeal in general

raw ermine
#

check his trivia

slow kraken
#

What type of last name is fish

next mesa
#

China team

#

1987 or molly?

#

Or coldest?

#

Superich not in the list that's fucking cap bro stop playin

next mesa
#

decay instead of diem? ok

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean for a starting lineup I'd choose decay fleta lowkey depending on meta

#

But for double sniper or hitscan decay diem

#

Too much choice

next mesa
#

decay diem actually cracked

#

like

#

it's the best you can get

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah but for pure flexibility sake if ashe or widow wasn't meta I'd want something like decay fleta or decay profit Salutations

#

But that barely happens so probably profit diem decay

next mesa
#

yeah just hypothetically if it's hitscan meta

#

I would want diem profit rascal im not gonna lie

#

and rascal is there just for echo and mei

#

u could change diem to lip to cover sombra cree but like does it really matter anyway korea's gonna win lol

silk frost
#

is it a hot take to say the OWWC Korea team I'd pick would have Birdring, Ivy, and Lip?

next mesa
#

yes

#

they'd still win doe

#

idk why birdring but yes

hot heart
#

Decay Profit Fleta is actually perfect

#

Other than the sombra issue literally nothing else is wrong

ebon iron
#

honestly add striker/sp9rk1e/decay

#

that can be better

#

actually idk

#

maybe heesu instead of striker for sombra

#

but decay sombra strong

#

sparkle/arch/fleta are all very good

#

just different styles

silk frost
#

dude

#

ivy was lowkey the best flex DPS last year

#

Lip was the best close range hitscan

#

birdring top long range hitscan

#

Birdring was probably only worse than ans and fits

tawdry hamlet
#

Uh

next mesa
#

whats the argument for decay over diem

#

if he's just there for ashe and widow

tawdry hamlet
#

Idk I feel like there were more standout widows than birdring before fits and ans

silk frost
#

who?

next mesa
#

diem lip

true hound
#

K

#

S

#

P

tawdry hamlet
#

yes

#

ksp

#

and xzi was pretty nutty

#

he was up for mvp iirc hypercatJAM

true hound
#

ksp shoulda got mvp nomination

#

hard carried the fuck out of valiant

tawdry hamlet
#

him and shax hard carried lol

#

their widow tracer duo is easily the best non korean one imo

visual cloud
#

yo can someone explain what happened to fusion this grand champion

#

they were good enough to get to finals but then failed to win a single round

tawdry hamlet
#

the meta that ended up happening in the playoffs was different than anyone had been running all year and they just didn't learn how to play it effectively like the other teams

#

they tried to play it more like you would in ladder with flanking hog and such rather than adapting it like the other teams managed

#

no one player really did that bad

#

it was more just a meta flop

#

Plus the other teams played some of their best overwatch all season in the playoffs

#

ok well mainly seoul but yeah lol

hot heart
#

I believe even if philly had someone like NineK or Rush to coach them through the Playoffs they'd still lose

#

Not even make grand finals

#

But they'd not shit the bed 0-4

#

And just be booted quicker than they could blink

tight hill
#

Philly just wasint as good, period

#

Meta was too good for Seoul

#

Shock and Shanghai were just better

mortal abyss
#

hmmmmmm

mortal abyss
#

Now it makes sense why valiant twitter responded to the OG tweet

#

they are still going to own LAV

#

but will still go for a chinese roster

plucky obsidian
#

@visual cloud they didnt bring ChipSA and eqo. Kinda need them. Carpe is awesome but they needed more manpower.

plush light
#

They needed carpe and ivy or eqo and then they needed boombox on the hog.

mortal abyss
#

It was likely the players desicion to go or stay

plush grail
#

but another investor

#

wants to do the management stuff?

idle forge
#

Yall, is valiant even allowed to drop their players. Because the offseason window to get players is over, so if valiant is still valiant, they arent allowed to pick up new peeps

#

unless there is something im getting horendously wrong

quartz cairn
#

Whens the 2021 OWL season starting

#

is there like a date or just a month range

forest raven
#

April

mortal abyss
cedar oasis
#

Do teams have to announce their pickups?

mortal abyss
#

I dont think so

cedar oasis
#

Couldent valiant have already signed a full Chinese roster but not announced it

balmy wolf
#

yes

next mesa
#

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raw ermine
plush light
#

Didn't they just sign agilities again? Why???

raw ermine
#

not agilities

#

Kai

tawdry hamlet
#

they did pick up agilities in the off season too

#

to replace ksf

raw ermine
#

oh that was to do with what was written above

tawdry hamlet
#

ah I see

#

I get it now

raw ermine
#

yeah it's weird AF, but agilities might not find a team after that

tawdry hamlet
#

and yeah idk who tf would pick up agilities

#

he really only has like genji and like B tier on a couple others lol

next mesa
#

Rascal streaming?

tawdry hamlet
#

I wish the s3 rosters that had room for one tricks could have gotten yzn loll

#

he is so nuts on pharah

raw ermine
#

ow or other things?

next mesa
#

ow

#

custom lobby

#

tobi is there too

raw ermine
#

owo

balmy wolf
#

Someone won money yay

#

gator and hawk arent that bad. idk why ppl shit on them that much

raw ermine
#

they were mediocre for coming 2nd in gauntlet

tawdry hamlet
#

I mean tbf bh came in first in gauntlet and they bouta be squashed lmaoo

#

and first in gauntlet this year not a single member was signed to league from na

#

but gauntlet did mean more back then I assume

next mesa
#

2019 gauntlet was every region

raw ermine
#

that doesn't count as gauntlet

next mesa
#

bh would get absolutely fucking dumpstered by team cc

tawdry hamlet
#

📠 🔥

#

spittin fax

#

so does this mean as time goes on players got worse at overwatch? or does this just mean APAC as a region is impossible to beat

tropic herald
#

Just gotta remind people that the only >18 players on AT have pasts that won’t let them into OWL so that’s why none of the NA gauntlet winners are OWL

next mesa
#

who exact;y

tawdry hamlet
#

tbf idek anyone on that team that would be great in owl besides like speedily

#

and maybe ojee

#

maybe maybe cucumber

tropic herald
#

Sh2pe and Cucumber are kinda really good at the game

weak bolt
#

Cucumber is coluge, so he isn't getting OWL

tawdry hamlet
#

Speedily is cracked

#

I really just want cross region matches again so these comparisons can be more than speculation sadthonk

weak bolt
#

Sad thing is all these players are cracked now, but time they hit 18 they'll probably be past their peaks and be disappointing

raw ermine
#

like fl0w3r

weak bolt
#

and whoru

tight hill
#

Owl is going to be so good this year

#

It seems pretty balanced, and there was a lot of integrated talent

next mesa
#

balance patch they nerfed shock

#

hold on

#

I mean we all know that twitter follow = signed

tight hill
#

I tried to look through the comments and remembered it’s Reddit

#

Someone said libero going to gen G lmao

tawdry hamlet
#

🥺

#

literally everyone except maybe lastro and ksp are going to be out of a job sadgery

#

and shax

next mesa
#

yeah really tragic

tawdry hamlet
#

but hey, with it being a chinese company maybe adam can get in on that oceania shit

#

lmao

#

imagine making them all learn english to comm with adam

tight hill
#

Shock gets KSP

#

Not unlikely

cedar oasis
#

If only there was another expansion team

next mesa
#

no adam will be forced to learn chinese

#

💀

tawdry hamlet
#

loll

#

comms check would be wild hearing the most broken chinese struggles in an aussie accent

cedar oasis
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That's cursed

tawdry hamlet
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agilities never should have been resigned with all the great flexes out there still tbh

balmy wolf
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ksp to atlanta 90%

tight hill
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KSP to spitfire maybe

tawdry hamlet
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and rip sharp, sharp isn't that bad 😦

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he could do that and go home

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I like how his page calls him Kai "Kai" Collins now

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loll

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up there with Adam Adam Soong

raw ermine
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Jake "Jake" Lyon

tawdry hamlet
hot onyx
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Dante “Danteh” Cruz

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Heesu “Heesu” Jeong

tawdry hamlet
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Corey as well

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the list goes on

hot onyx
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I could do this all day

raw ermine
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then there is the second category

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first "firstlast" last

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or

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first "lastfirst" last

balmy wolf
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choihyoubin

raw ermine
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ryujehong

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seominsoo

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leejaegon

hot onyx
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Gangnamjin

raw ermine
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kinda Joemeister

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thats the 1st category

hot onyx
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Hanbeen (hanbin)

raw ermine
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right

trail perch
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Choi "Choihyobin" Hyo Bin

tawdry hamlet
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wonder if they always went by their first names while playing pre top level or if they just chose to later

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because I never once considered making my name on a game just like my irl name lol

trail perch
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ik people who have

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But it just seems like wrong

hot onyx
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Imagine having a serial killer track you down because of your ow username