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I think fearless had a ton of success because iziyaki is a god ana and adjusting to new support will be hard on a character who's kit is literally feeding and depending on ana
that would be great haha
people are saying the same thing about sado aswell
Because in scrims and practice fury would’ve been hard focused on his sigma game and to take him off and put him on hog imo was a mistake
Like if you look at fearless on gibraltar with the iziyaki pocket dude literally doesn't drop below 400 health
It is wild

Good description 10/10
I hope Linkzr puts in the work and just has an insane comeback season
Or Houston with Jake and happy
Would be fun to watch
What was y'alls favourite OWL meta in season 3?
if fielder ever gets played lmao
Houston actually has a lowkey decent dps lineup atm which is surprising
I could see rapel having a better zen
mine was the countdown cup meta tbh
Hot take but summer showdown double shield genji was a blast
Double shield part
genji meta was fun
i remember
countdown cup meta just was so much fun to watch with good teams
wasnt that when florida shit talked them like
ah we beat houston earlier this week we'll do it again
esp that one philly vs paris match with alarms godmode sleeps
then lost 3-1
yeah it was
also eqo clutch
Eqo clutch was the highlight of my year
summer showdown was the best
paris vs shock followed by paris vs philly all last maps were just absolute fucking juicy bangers
true
owl saw that we liked genji suddenly being meta so they were like hey lets do it again with hog for play-offs
Linkzr in that houston series unironically popped off
Hog meta change lowkey bothers me so much because the best teams all season just got flopped on but it also meant that the teams who could adapt to that meta on a whim are more versatile and therefore better teams
genji meta was still okay
Shock literally had every single meta easily except genji 😐
teams like shock just forced ashe tracer i think
Yeah seeing teams like paris and gaungzhou get ripped to shreds was depressing
genji >>>>>>>>>>>>> hog meta

fuck guangzho
Mate I’m not a guangzhou fan myself but to see them fall that flat on their faces was sad
imagine if they buff pharah a ton before owl s4
Hog meta at least gave us playoff seoul 
sadge
So that's something
s4 gets to start with a fucking pharah meta
Pharah metas 😭
Profit is such a good pharah
Not that she's a high skull ceiling hero
But still loll
i feel like the genji meta really made sparkle overhyped imo
he joined, became 18 just as his best hero becomes meta
Well yeah because he's easily the best genji in the world people just forgot that outside of genji he's useless

Except for an emp bot
Yeah not like he has a fantastic doom or anything
when was the last time doom was used for anything but getting back fast
Anything other than Lijang and doom doesn't exist
Okok you got me there
prob has best doom too
He's fun to watch people who are insane at him pop off but he's so unfeasible because he has the owl problem of fat close range heroes not doing well ever

no best doom is blase by far
nein
Who needs chipsa when you have roolf?

Everyone says finals coaching for philly was bad but are we going to ignore the og bruh moment of coaching by signing a meme streamer doomfist one trick
Do you guys think he did good in like any form of trials or you think they just straight signed him
100% jokes
also ik i didnt talk about seoul's two humongous absolutely meaningful dubs this weekend even though im huge seoul fan I watched the 2 games im on the bandwagon boys 😎
Just signed for the fanbase
i dont know if he even joined scrims
welcome on the pain train
Would have been cool to see like an actual chipsa strat but chipsa just doesn't fit a team like fusion loll he's more suited for somewhere like Houston where being a low mid meme is acceptable
More of a streamer pickup like they did with kabaji and emongg but they let him play a little
One map right lmao
sbb finals mvp
Profit the next time brady bro bet
He collecting more playoff dubs

Tom brady idk why it changed to time
they bench profit for sbb and gets full held
Sad
Seoul strong scrimbux, means they'll shit the bed in actual season
nyxl beat shock, they're my new #1
omegalul
profit is mad now
he said hes gonna try even harder
after getting 2nd place
Owl is getting hyped for an underdog to win first teamfight and then getting insta capped and full held next fight
playoffs profit becomes permanent

im expecting atlanta to do well this season
Lmao
sbb neva gonna see the light of day
I know it’s a meme and all but seeing vancouver anywhere above the bottom is unsettling for me
fr

Atlanta's best chance of being the top team is that the Chinese buyer pulls out of LAV and buys Reign instead 😄
bro its not a meme
vancouver bottom
Oh shit yeah it isn’t I thought it was a different power rankings my bad
I feel like a team of washed up american players beating hurricane really really hurt their power rankings 😐
yeah some random americans beating them made me place them just above glads and shock but not over houston yet
yooo ksf already played for china???
Loll

Imagine being adam
Grinding aus contenders for ages and finally getting a chance in owl only for it to be snatched away with a chinese buyout
adam is koreaan?
Doesn’t mean he wasn’t eligible to play in aus contenders
Gotta get their players from somewhere
how to smile when your favorite team is losing to uprising
you dont
That's gotta hurt
I feel like everyone roots for boston to win unless it's against their team
facts
diya never signed

sad
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Boston are never gonna beat Shanghai's record because the glads exist
I have no clue what this means
Check out glads record agaisnt boston
kanezaka kinda sleeper
O2 Boyz which is literally 5/6 of their team took out Korea
?
I was following EU more and really thought France had it over Winland
I'm pleasantly disappointed
baguette masters
Probably libero methinks but then again they need a support backup
Libero would solidify them top 4 tho imo
Libero, but he pulls an architect and only plays ana
or
or
or
hear me out
Bazzi, but he transitions back to flex support
then flexes onto doomfist
Diya
when they get rid of role lock in ow2
idk the doomfist ana 2 trick is a deadly combo
Someone might get like real mad at u for sending that
If any staff want me to remove it, I can
yeah I saw that
what an insane fucking gamer
I swear his primal does more damage than mine 🗿
Did New York actually beat shock in scrims?
Yeah nyxl beat Shock 5-0
also ivy isn't on mei
I wish they would sell owl keycaps
Whoops sorry for posting it mods I see you have removed it
Yeah cool whatever, I’d rather not have this server be linked to leaking scrims
Those codes have gone everywhere anyway
That's extremely impressive
I saw some "aspiring caster" live cast those private scrims on his stream
I wouldn’t take scrims for anything rn
OWL probably won’t even start on this patch and scrims just started
Shock always suck until like a month into the season anyway
This is to be expected
Also Shock doesn’t have all their players in Korea so there is a lot of things about the scrims that aren’t reliable
Rascal libero is gonna be the number one support line in season 4
On Justice
Rascal on main support, libero on flex support

Libero on zen, yes baby
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He is duoing with rawkus
on tank
Lastro is a genji god. Trash flex support compared to genji. Its just to good.
Im not really into Owl but who is the favorite or the best, who won the last season?
Sf shock and sf shock
SF Shock won
the clear favorites for this season are dallas tho
with a super flexible dps line-up that can play everything
and good coaching and decisions made by coaches
They really need a flex and they'd be equivalent to last year's shanghai 
Well idk, lowkey iziyaki is better than the em supports
Not even lowkey iziyaki is cracked
even if they got iziyaki
they'd prolly still play rapel jescse
coaches are weird
and the dps line up is odd
can't wait for the moment where paris beats dallas
when are you making the owl debut
Idk bro but the valiant might pick me up I hear they got openings soon 

Except im not chinese which could be a problem
Lowkey forgot chengdu got 4th in countdown cup lmao
I forgot about this 
I think I slept through most of the matches in apac for countdown cup
lazy fuck
for me apac is always like 10 am to 1 pm
and na is like
11 pm to 2 am
its ass
Bro apac is like 3am-6am for me leave me alone

And na was always like 12pm to 6pm or so
West Coast us 😎
ew americans
Valid
invalid
i know
the takes in this server remind me of youtube chat
You need hot takes to keep things lively in off season
like how can no one bring up how good piggy is
Think we’re all burnt out on hyping up contenders players until they prove it in owl
We shall see in s4, owl is a whole different level to anything else
I mean everyone knew piggy was almost guranteed a contract but nobody is hyped for him because he got a contract from a universally bad team that only made minor upgrades to an unsuccessful roster and downgraded supports
what?????
Happy for Linkzr is fat tho 
joobi and crimzo are soo underrated
and piggy is just a god
while jjanggu is solid
Crimzo aka I have all the gold medals guys why are we losing headass 
you clearly dont know how the game works if you think this way
good riddance
youll see when piggy slaughters the league
in the end

piggy will be at the top
Houston could be a dark horse this year if it all clicks, but I’m still doubtful their support line is good enough
crimzo aka bad
Happy isn't better than diem or Ans or Carpe or Xzi 
Well maybe Xzi idk
Kind of true, carpe is a solid widow but seems to get outclassed by the top ones

Happy was widow goat like a while ago at least
Idk I thought he fucked a lot on widow like a season or so ago lmao I was reading old stuff and everyone was on about happy and Linkzr being insane
Must have been old if Linkzr was considered good tho lmaoo
no one has to be better than Ans anymore because he isn't here to dick some shitters down :(

Peak linkzr is amazing, his issue is consistency
idk dawg I dont remember a time where linkzr is considered best widow
its okay we still have diem 👀
I think early early Linkzr back when dreamkazper beat him was like really good I think
We should get a fair bit of Carpe vs Diem this year at least
Yeah. Ngl I hope for like one of the all stars games they do a widow deathmatch but it's only goat widows so Saya pine ans (maybe flow3r)
If Diem doesn't get more playtime this season it's a war crime
True
fr
I’m not sure he’ll get much outside of widow meta
I still think he's better than lip
and ashe too
Why does he only get played when it only matters?
because diem is built diff-
😌
Maybe better than lip on two heroes but lip cree I think is better
maybe maybe
lip cree and sombra are nuts
Lip is more flexible and SHD like that I think
in a sombra meta yes they should def play lip
hitscan heavy ashe widow doe play diem plz
Man erster is such a nice upgrade for shanghai though thinking about all the times they played dding and are able to play erster now is hype
shanghai will fuck once again this season
the only questionable piece for shanghai is fate tbh
Erster kind of benched unless there is a super weird meta
but Moon has his grand scheme so fuck it
Fate will do well
no seoul will win because their roster vid is better
agreed

Good point
honestly fate outperformed fearless
He feeded way less
im not gonna lie fearless ball questionable questionable
I think Fate is better across all the MT heroes. Fearless is just a far better monkey
I think fearless still getting used to a new team. But fearless lowkey looking less and less flexible as time goes by
I think it was just easy to look good on shanghai last season
inb4 dallas has a negative record if orisa is meta all season
Never forget unequivocal proof Crimzo is better than moth 😎
https://twitter.com/Crimzo/status/1304877530101551108?s=19

orisa being meta all season wouldn't surprise with how many curveballs they throw at us
no no no u guys dunking and disrespecting fearless now
dont bandwagon he's still god tier
however
Dallas probably like a horse meta, as Hanbin probably gets to play sigma
they are just not as good
dont forget that fearless lead reverse sweep against seoul may melee mkay destroyed my hopes and dreams
He is great for sure but outside monkey and rein he is just A tier instead of the usual S 
yea
^
yeah which is still cracked
But then again who even is S tier ball and orisa besides like smurf 
let's be real here
I’m not even sure his rein is S tier. His monkey is for sure though
ameng
gaga now maybe
his rein is pretty S tier i'd put him just behind super but since he had like almost no palytime on him people say sado better and its like oh well
Ameng a prophet learning ball so far in advance waiting for this meta 😎
Our true savior
I think ameng barely plays this year. All MTs been grinding ball for months, it’s going to narrow gap significantly
Yeah I worry about play time with gaga being so flexible
chengdu gonna go crazy again and force ball comps 24/7
dallas signs ball just for ball
I could see him being a control point only player or something
Is the british ball and the youtuber ball the same person I genuinely have no idea
gaga ball good tho no?
It is yee
I worry about ameng play time since gaga can do most heroes he can better and has a pretty good ball
yeah
I’m looking forward to Sado/Beast on ball
i'm interested to see how sado will do
god damn the things he can do on that hero is cracked
Toronto going to be awful as ball meta
just overall
he will do bad
He is literally nuts in his highlight vids like even better than ameng lmaov
he doesnt have alarm to carry him
I mean yeah
mano says he literally watches ball
to get better
not surprised tbh u watch best player
you have to watch ball players to get better at ball
Ball plays ranked though tbf, you can get away with a lot more shit vs owl
yes
like a contenders team
hes the carry
honestly they almost beat british fucking hurricane it was cracked
Ball will be nerfed by April anyway
Loll avoided when they played bastion main in gauntlet
Too many of the pros saying ball is OP
ball is not that op the other tanks just suck

like blizz listens to the pros
I can't wait for blizz to nerf ball, and not buff any other tank
I still think they need to revert sigma buff like lowkey just make his shield weaker
no
it makes sigma doodoo to play
nerf him mpre
feel wise
Never going to be agreement on tanks, as everyone has favourites
no
Sigmas kit is just far too adaptable to make other tanks useful in a lot of metas because power creep go brr
just nerf sigma
also idk why they nerfed zen projectile speed
and honestly zen just balances between 30% and 25% whether it's a poke meta or not
when poke meta disappears he will become shit again
Blizzard dumps out heroes with kits that do more than all the other heroes and then wonders why they are unbalanced
Brig moment
ok well have fun on uneducated takes
Shield stun aoe heals and armor 
I was a fan of the Winston Zarya meta honestly, gimme more of that
Double bubble 
Give me a map dependent meta swapping between dive and rush
facts facts
It was like a weird hybrid between dive and rush
Genji metas are boring as fuck to me. Genji gets blade, nano it, next fight
Yea when genji is meta it just revolves around blade 99% of the time
would be better if no orisa pull
He's just really flashy
GOOD
Watching flashy heroes is fun 😎
Watching widows pop off or doomfist getting a fat kill streak is just something else 
fr I dont like to play against widow but hello seeing them click heads yes please
I like flashy plays that aren’t just press q and slash 6x
Tracers or Echos are one of the fun flashy heroes to me
Fat bombs are fun I won't deny that
Or the thread the needle bombs to take out orisa and the supercharger
Those are pog
give me a meta where tracer/mcree/mei/hanzo/widow/echo are the dps picks
Those are usually the most fun for me to watch
Ah so this meta except with real tanks?
actually drop widow and put reaper in
Swap Mcree for junkrat and I’m in
Mei reaper rein rush is fun af to watch
Who doesn’t love some j silly
Emp is nearly as bad as nano blade really. Least you can kind of out play it tactically
Winston Zarya tracer echo zen mercy, gimme that for a month
gimme stage 3 s2 meta
Triple dps vs goats? I’m in
I want genji to be meta right before playoffs and sparkle carries fuel to championship
That’d be an unbearable combo of fuel and sparkle fans
no check it
this time profit will be there to stop him
🗿
second place HE'S MAD
although im not gonna lie profit's echo still looks like shit
choisehwan kinda dunked on him
just a lil bit
🗿
Could be bull, but dogman has claimed Atlanta has signed a player, and that Shaxx might be going to London
On his new little show thing
halo is pretty trustworthy tho
lol
He got like 3 things wrong this offseason
And like 10 right
I trust the Atlanta signing someone leak but idk about shax leak
Shax isn't going to London. London already said they finished their roster for 2021
if shax is available doe after they said that 👀 i mean
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hardly a caster
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According to sources, the Atlanta Reign and Los Angeles Valiant are expected to announce a deal for British DPS player Kai "KSP" Collins
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that could be massive for atlanta lowkey but pelican is already solid and they should kind of focus on their other roles first
but if they could get him I wouldn't give him up either so fair play
Wait pelican/ksp
that's kinda nasty
If this is rumored by halo now, and to be true
We'll get the valiant shitstorm soon
why did nyxl sign ivy
he can play like 3 heroes
genji s his best
not even meta

troll?
haha
But ivy was still one of th ebest flex dps last year, his mei was probably the best in the league, his genji kept up with spa9rkle's and his hanzo was godlike
those are the only heroes he needed to play
his reaper and tracer were also great
wdym
it's odd that nyxl even were able to pick up ivy
because i'm pretty sure most players if not all players on nyxl have the minimum contract rn
Not jjonack
Or yakpung
Also ivy has a good junk
I wouldn't put it past blizzard to make junk meta next season
im pretty sure jjonak was also minimum contract
there were rumors of nyxl trying to sell jjonak for 50k a few months ago
but yeah he's a decent player but super marketable
so he might get a bit more
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only a coach tho
What if Miro just gets picked up for shock as a coach next year after he leads team diamond to win contenders Korea
kinda expecting a lot from him there
ivy had an insane genji, doom, pharah, rat, reaper, mei, hanzo
his echo was also good
and he has a solid tracer, sombr and ashe
KSP and Shax rumors
Valiant is getting sold man
you know what this means
its diya time 😎
@grave sail i agree
but we all know sp9rkle had the best genji
maybe whoru or haksal
but sp9rkle dominated
sp9rkle dominated in sumer showdown
ye
less so in the countdown cup
in genji meta
iirc diya said he wants to stay with team cc
but that could have changed obviously
also because no owl opportunities
he was going to retire after team cc found a replacement for him
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man your life must suck
first you were a lunatic hai fan
they all just leave
then jhong becomes a bitch
and now you need a team to collapse just for you fav player to have a chance
my life's actually pretty good rn but yeah jehong :/
:/
ivy shat on sparkle in cc
why did they play eqo instead of ivy in summer showdown then kinda weird
ivy probably has the better genji but like
eqo did well in the summer showdown
why not just
because eqo had a better grasp on the early genji meta
and summer showdown genji was more like a brawler and i guess eqo fit that playstyle better
why is eqo so underrated
Ngl i loved eqo. His genji was insane and his echo was pretty good. The problem is hes now prob gonna be benched for shockwave whos echo is also pretty good (maybe a bit better?) but has a slightly wider hero pool
Now let's gotta wait for SBB being a bitch
sbb is never gonna be a bitch
Eqo was really good in the previous season too, maybe ivy didn't felt well that time vs Paris.
seoul looks kinda sexy doe 👀
toyou ate like at least half of eileen's pulse bombs I swear to god
absolute god gamer super inspirational
Nearly all the apac teams could be a top tier team
I do wonder how SF Shock is going to do this season
Probably the same as always
One of the Top Teams
But i'm just worried Ta1yo or FDgod wont be able to hold their wieight
You should worry about glister
I mean only reason to be concerned about Glister is if you expect him to be ans
Fdgod and viol2t might be too much feeding
I mean fdgod doesn't feed
but moths brain was vital to the team
so it might harm them
As long as shock keep viol2t smurf and striker they'll probably stay number 1
Not necessarily true
they have a bad fdps situation
There's also a very slight chance that Choi becomes a problem vs top teams
and that the lack of moth is a huge problem
could you elaborate?
?
oh for sure, they're definetly going to be a lot weaker, but Fdgod is a "moldable" type of player who crusty could defintely turn into moth 2
I fail to see the dps problem
agree, comes down to whether crusty will keep being able to do his thing, which i believe he will
We've seen Nero and Ta1yo very little over the past year, so it's hard to say that they're not great
Apparently crusty hasn't startd doing 1 to 1 coaching with ta1yo yet
also, projectile metas are rare these days. in double hitscan it'd be glister and striker anyway
Yeah hopefully they can just play Glister Striker
Where'd they say this
and hopefully one of them can play echo well
saw quite a few people say it on r/cow , see if i can find the link to the interview for ya
Ty
Honestly I don’t get why shock still have ta1yo
yeah idk why they have 2 projectile players
ta1yo do be hitscan doe
taiyo will either be developed or sold
if theyre keeping him its because they still want to develop him or they havent gotten a good offer yet
Taiyo 
Fax
valiant management has ghosted us for two weeks. i thought becoming a gamer meant i wouldn’t have to deal with this.
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I hate when halo is probably right
😭
but facts that make me cry 😭
because he is wrong so often
morel ike 20 right but yeah
anything less than 95% is pretty shit for someone that is supposed to have good sources
he only got like muze,sanguinar and apply wrong
muze sanguinar and apply are all big
Not rly, just muze
apply doesnt rly matter
and sanguinar was good, but not like top tier
I mean, so was glister, but here everyone is hyping him to hell due to the shock
Glister was great, but not top tier, and people still hype him from Gen G
nero
correcting oneself as much as he does is not good either
But his corrections are right lol
you guys can like him, that is fine, but don't pretend such a high failure rate is a good thing
Messing 3 things up an entire offseason isnt a high failure rate
Dont forget that he also pre leaked BH to LS
and the whole valiant thing
the valiant thing is still not entirely confirmed, and he made mistakes before this off season
any pc nerds here im hella confused
is this relevant to owl?
nobody needs an inexperienced mid tier backup from na so apply really doesn't matter I agree lol
that is like him leaking mcgravy and getting it wrong
who cares lmao
for an unaffiliated independent dude just talking around twitter I would say halo does alright lol
like I know he does more than that but at the end of the day when you are not in the orgs themselves you can't guess them all
didn't he completely drop the ball on the new titans roster for when they imploded last season
And quit reporting off OW because of it I think
He did for a while, I believe
dang I forgot, he quit about something
Not sure why he made the bet he did
was it titans?
I think so
iirc he said third impact was gonna be picked up
I mean, look, I don’t hate the guy
But journalists aren’t supposed to be wrong that often
You need to get your ducks lined up in a row, it isn’t professional
oh yeahh
I get he isn’t literally 50/50 or whatever, but come on
he said it before he's not really a journalist he calls himself "reporter/influencer" but yes
it was 3rd impact
I know he isn’t a journalist, but if he expects me to believe his stuff I expect quality
that is fair but thinking more on like Sports Journalism as a whole like they talk about broad things like "Hmm there are rumors deshaun watson is in talk with (insert team)" it doesn't mean they are wrong if he ends up somewhere else it just means the rumors and speculation were wrong
Thing is, people here treat it as true
And I am reasonably confident halo knows that
Though tbf, I am not entirely sure
Another fun Guest
shame he and platchat get no views basically
Dustins guests are stacked
When's Dusttin gonna run out of guests? they're all great, but their being used up quickly
Ye
He will use every single person who watches OWL as a guest
lmaoo platchat makes a roster building OWWC episode
every single team has like, 4 people AT MOST per role, most often 2, as possiblities to choose from
China has 6 per role
korea has like 20 per role
LMAO
Not surprising, China/Korea have huge talent pools, everywhere else is bad for that
wow, I just mentally made a team SK from the list plat chat made, and mine was identical to theres, except they chose LJG over slime
S
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???
Also did they just say ksf play widow?
Did they mess up with ksp
ksf does play hitscan occasionally
Ksf was a nutty widow
You could honestly make 5 Korean teams and probably 3 chinese teams and they'd still beat everyone else there
If certain US players would actually do the WC then USA would have a pretty Pog lineup
we lost rawkus, sleepy, and dogman between 2019-20
Ultraviolet
Lukemino
It was inevitable, they've been in talks for about 2 weeks before the tournament to make it happen
I find the non OWL guests equally as good
Which for those who arent interested says a lot about esports appeal in general
Luke "Lukemino" Fish is an American player recently playing for Odyssey.
check his trivia
What type of last name is fish
China team
1987 or molly?
Or coldest?
Superich not in the list that's fucking cap bro stop playin
decay instead of diem? ok
I mean for a starting lineup I'd choose decay fleta lowkey depending on meta
But for double sniper or hitscan decay diem

Too much choice
Yeah but for pure flexibility sake if ashe or widow wasn't meta I'd want something like decay fleta or decay profit 
But that barely happens so probably profit diem decay
yeah just hypothetically if it's hitscan meta
I would want diem profit rascal im not gonna lie
and rascal is there just for echo and mei
u could change diem to lip to cover sombra cree but like does it really matter anyway korea's gonna win lol
is it a hot take to say the OWWC Korea team I'd pick would have Birdring, Ivy, and Lip?
Decay Profit Fleta is actually perfect
Other than the sombra issue literally nothing else is wrong
honestly add striker/sp9rk1e/decay
that can be better
actually idk
maybe heesu instead of striker for sombra
but decay sombra strong
sparkle/arch/fleta are all very good
just different styles
dude
ivy was lowkey the best flex DPS last year
Lip was the best close range hitscan
birdring top long range hitscan
Birdring was probably only worse than ans and fits
Uh
Idk I feel like there were more standout widows than birdring before fits and ans
who?
diem lip
him and shax hard carried lol
their widow tracer duo is easily the best non korean one imo
yo can someone explain what happened to fusion this grand champion
they were good enough to get to finals but then failed to win a single round
the meta that ended up happening in the playoffs was different than anyone had been running all year and they just didn't learn how to play it effectively like the other teams
they tried to play it more like you would in ladder with flanking hog and such rather than adapting it like the other teams managed
no one player really did that bad
it was more just a meta flop
Plus the other teams played some of their best overwatch all season in the playoffs
ok well mainly seoul but yeah lol
I believe even if philly had someone like NineK or Rush to coach them through the Playoffs they'd still lose
Not even make grand finals
But they'd not shit the bed 0-4
And just be booted quicker than they could blink
Philly just wasint as good, period
Meta was too good for Seoul
Shock and Shanghai were just better
Update for clarity: According to sources, the deal between IGC and the Chinese org is supposedly a management deal and not a full blown sale.
IGC will be owners by name but will not manage the team themselves
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hmmmmmm
Now it makes sense why valiant twitter responded to the OG tweet
they are still going to own LAV
but will still go for a chinese roster
@visual cloud they didnt bring ChipSA and eqo. Kinda need them. Carpe is awesome but they needed more manpower.
They needed carpe and ivy or eqo and then they needed boombox on the hog.
It was likely the players desicion to go or stay
wait so the valiant are still gonna be owned by the original people
but another investor
wants to do the management stuff?
Yall, is valiant even allowed to drop their players. Because the offseason window to get players is over, so if valiant is still valiant, they arent allowed to pick up new peeps
unless there is something im getting horendously wrong
April
IGC will only own the valiant in name and this chinese company will handle everything else, so the valiant players are still getting the boot 😦
Do teams have to announce their pickups?
I dont think so
Couldent valiant have already signed a full Chinese roster but not announced it
yes
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Didn't they just sign agilities again? Why???
oh that was to do with what was written above
yeah it's weird AF, but agilities might not find a team after that
fax
and yeah idk who tf would pick up agilities
he really only has like genji and like B tier on a couple others lol
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Rascal streaming?
I wish the s3 rosters that had room for one tricks could have gotten yzn loll
he is so nuts on pharah
ow or other things?
owo
Someone won money yay
gator and hawk arent that bad. idk why ppl shit on them that much
they were mediocre for coming 2nd in gauntlet
I mean tbf bh came in first in gauntlet and they bouta be squashed lmaoo
and first in gauntlet this year not a single member was signed to league from na
but gauntlet did mean more back then I assume
2019 gauntlet was every region
that doesn't count as gauntlet
bh would get absolutely fucking dumpstered by team cc
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spittin fax
so does this mean as time goes on players got worse at overwatch? or does this just mean APAC as a region is impossible to beat
Just gotta remind people that the only >18 players on AT have pasts that won’t let them into OWL so that’s why none of the NA gauntlet winners are OWL
who exact;y
tbf idek anyone on that team that would be great in owl besides like speedily
and maybe ojee
maybe maybe cucumber
Sh2pe and Cucumber are kinda really good at the game
Cucumber is coluge, so he isn't getting OWL
Speedily is cracked
I really just want cross region matches again so these comparisons can be more than speculation 
Sad thing is all these players are cracked now, but time they hit 18 they'll probably be past their peaks and be disappointing
like fl0w3r
and whoru
Owl is going to be so good this year
It seems pretty balanced, and there was a lot of integrated talent
balance patch they nerfed shock
hold on
I mean we all know that twitter follow = signed
I tried to look through the comments and remembered it’s Reddit
Someone said libero going to gen G lmao
going to gen g
lmao
lmao
idk if its real
🥺
literally everyone except maybe lastro and ksp are going to be out of a job 
and shax
yeah really tragic
but hey, with it being a chinese company maybe adam can get in on that oceania shit
lmao
imagine making them all learn english to comm with adam
If only there was another expansion team
loll
comms check would be wild hearing the most broken chinese struggles in an aussie accent
That's cursed
agilities never should have been resigned with all the great flexes out there still tbh
ksp to atlanta 90%
KSP to spitfire maybe
and rip sharp, sharp isn't that bad 😦
he could do that and go home
I like how his page calls him Kai "Kai" Collins now
loll
up there with Adam Adam Soong
Jake "Jake" Lyon

I could do this all day
then there is the second category
first "firstlast" last
or
first "lastfirst" last
choihyoubin
Gangnamjin
Hanbeen (hanbin)
right
Choi "Choihyobin" Hyo Bin
wonder if they always went by their first names while playing pre top level or if they just chose to later
because I never once considered making my name on a game just like my irl name lol
Imagine having a serial killer track you down because of your ow username





