Top 5: SFS, LAG, Dallas Fuel, Justice, and Toronto
#esports-discussion
inland flare
maybe mayhem could be top 5
if oge proves me wrong
if it was actually fissure on the team
definitely top 5
but he always behaves poorly
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Fissure wasn't even lft
trail perch
Bumper
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Why was everyone speculating fissure
trail perch
Bumper
Bumper
Bumper Slime
Sign Haksal out of retirement
Trade Bqb for Seominsoo
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Powch twilight
inland flare
@trail perch he was in the tryout
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Poach*
trail perch
Sign stitch
inland flare
no jjanu being trade is actually stupid
trail perch
with runner
trail perch
sigma is 1/4 ots lol
inland flare
on dva yes
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Honestly jjanu sig not even bad
trail perch
Jjanu better
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Good even
trail perch
Jjanu sig is good
inland flare
okay at least gargoyle is flexible
trail perch
as is jjanu lol
inland flare
no lol
plush light
Everyone forgets how good a coach kuki is. Mayhem will be good.
plush light
On 200 ping
raw ermine
damn paris have 7 different nationalities on there roster
tight axle
I dunno what Paris was doing. They got rid of a pretty good team. For something that last years titans could beat
Like we're there budget issues or disagreements?
tight axle
Ohh. Feels bad they did pretty good
I can't even name a weak link
Maybe main tank?
But the rest were great
balmy wolf
s3 paris was a contender for sure in NA
but the hog meta was too much for them to quickly learn
silk frost
this moron needs to stop before his reputation is completely dead
trail perch
?
silk frost
dogman
raw ermine
whose dogman? I only know Dusttin Bowerman
earnest leaf
lol shock scrims got leaked
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sauce us @earnest leaf
raw ermine
they're scrimming already?
earnest leaf
raw ermine
coach crusty mentality
raw ermine
damn
stacked match
this isn't new patch I assume
so we'll see some interesting shakeups
2/3 of the nerfs are being mirrored here
tawdry hamlet
this moron needs to stop before his reputation is completely dead
Stop what, I mean other than blatantly copying the pat mcafee approach idk what's wrong with any of that
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he is back
tawdry hamlet
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he is good now
tropic herald
For anyone who doesnt know the Korean named tracer is gwangboong
Also Bianca and Viol2t got quite some deaths
tropic herald
Another fact I learned gwangboong/광붕이 means Lighthouse
balmy wolf
wonder if its gonna stay dive heavy with the new experimental coming soon
tropic herald
I personally think so
balmy wolf
sig is kind of dead rn so hes out of the pic
tropic herald
Brig Ball Sombra still strong
And the reason Sig is dead is Sombra and echo
So you play dva
And then that forces them off echo
balmy wolf
basically another version of double hitscan really
balmy wolf
no projectile dps expect maybe hanzo
tropic herald
Hanzo would get dove too easy
If you play projectile here it’s probably echo but dva just makes echo no good
At least for pro play
balmy wolf
ladder gonna be interesting
dive in NA ladder doesnt exist for the most part
up until masters+
tropic herald
Because NA main tanks pathing is literally the worst of any region
It’s like they want to take damage before they actually dive
balmy wolf
or take the same route 5 times in a row expecting something different
tropic herald
Like watching some of them on Monkey they just jump so badly it’s kinda painful compared to like Mano on winston or something
balmy wolf
oh jeez NA winston is kind of painful to watch
not as comm heavy as some other regions
either way i expect ranked to still run rein/zar mostly up until masters+
just ez to run and not so snooze like double shield
quartz cairn
i aint no snitch
jolly steeple
???
what is wrong with you
this is a huge server
don't leak codes
you can't do that
its private info
jolly steeple
you cant share it with random strangers
ok buddy
wait til mods get involved
and ban ur ass
you sick fuck
apologize.
tropic herald
@ebon iron don’t leak scrim codes 
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Mmmmm
balmy wolf
that bazzo guy sure is weird
tropic herald
Yea, idc about screenshots Bc it’s just screenshots of one small moment but leaking the whole thing
I got it already
Just don’t do it again
Yeah yeah Shock leaked it but you don’t have to spread it further is what I’m getting at
balmy wolf
someone getting whoop at shock
jolly steeple
@tropic herald wait that wasn’t actually a real scrim code
He didn’t deserve that ban
Lol
serene fiber
boston vs titans
unkempt gale
so, ive seen 6 different possible expansion teams on twitter. any of them actually going to come into fruition?
Monteral Inferno, Las Vegas Luck, Hong Kong-Macau Royals, Auckland Quake, Copenhagen Frost, and Singapore Pride.
most interesting to see would be Auckland, Copenhagen, and Singapore.
For 1, regional barriers, and 2, new teams in new countries/areas.
tawdry hamlet
Only a psychopath would buy into something as anti profit as owl in 2021
plush grail
https://twitter.com/Baaz0leakboyceo/status/1352427026385309699
why the FUCK is nyxl scrimming shock
tawdry hamlet
And blizzard acknowledging Hong Kong's existence? Gl 
sand violet
Why wouldn't nyxl scrim shock?
All of the scrimming shock players are in korea rn besides fdgod
Ig super and nero but they're just rotational players
tawdry hamlet
Rip fdgod 
Let's play a game called who has higher ping!
Well idk where fdgod actually lives but yeah
earnest leaf
He's playing on 300 ping and the NA shock players are on 250
heady fable
Heyo when's the tournament thing that I think Seoul and Fuel and some other teams are participating in?
Please @ me if u know
plush grail
tommorow
23rd abd 24th
pretty sure the shanghai dragons twitter has dates
idk if you're na or europe but i do remember na having super bad times because the tournament is in korea
craggy sandal
The shanghai Dallas game is at 2-4 am pst
unkempt gale
is it being played on the owl website?
broken comet
tawdry hamlet
Nah it'll be youtube or bilibili or something most like
craggy sandal
Shanghai’s Twitter has the link
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tight hill
https://twitter.com/Baaz0leakboyceo/status/1352427026385309699
Jesus Christ that’s a cursed image
Super mentioned on stream that they had scrims today
raw ermine
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shittttt
raw ermine
100% accurate way to determine signings btw
mortal abyss
oh yh wtf haha
plush light
Note also moved to lol with gamsu
raw ermine
where did he say that?
trail perch
Bc Feath3r is on sombra
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gwangboong
trail perch
Even tho Flora is a sombra specialist
oh srys?
And they where still beating the shock?
raw ermine
they were beating them on 1 single point of oasis
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yeah lol
willow drum
Do you think Shock will still win the next World Cup?
With Ans retirement?
Because they still have one of the best Supports and Tank Lineups in the League
raw ermine
next OWL season? hard to say
they lost 3 massive players
but they still look to be the top
plush grail
I personally am not too hot about the dps line-up
but the tanks and supports are still top tier
raw ermine
crusty never signs players he can't coach to be top tier
forest raven
glister under crusty will fucking obliterate
plush grail
but he's been working with taiyo for a while now and im pretty sure taiyo still isn't ready yet
he has to coach 3 players now before we start in april
forest raven
we don't know if ta1yo's ready or not
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after grand finals there was an interview and it said he hasn't coached ta1yo 1 on 1 yet
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yeah some guy was like
willow drum
they lost 3 massive players
Moth and Ans
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how cooked is ta1yo
willow drum
but who was the 3rd?
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rascal
raw ermine
and rascal
cedar oasis
What about architec
plush grail
he left earlier
willow drum
Ye
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and crust was like "still dough" because apparently korean fans compare crusty magic as molding bread
willow drum
I'm not sure if any of the dps players are Ans level with widow and ashe
plush grail
im sure the new dps will do fine
willow drum
when do the games start?
plush grail
april
cobalt spoke
and crust was like "still dough" because apparently korean fans compare crusty ...
Basically is
At this point its proven that the crust is a must
trail perch
I mean he also has a god tier roster
I would love to see crusty on Paris, see how that turns out
feral zodiac
Put crusty on s3 boston
trail perch
still low tier lol
I think people hype up crusty way too much
He benefits from having one of the richest orgs and a insane staff around him
And some of the best talent the league has ever seen
His DPS line is the best tracer in the world and mini profit, how can you go wrong
craggy sandal
He did make Boston s1 one of the best teams in the league and had a 10-0 stage
cedar oasis
That was striker going 10-0
balmy wolf
nah
crusty makes the difference
his players have much potential
he just knows how to make them better
his teams will always be sucessful
cedar oasis
Theres only like 5 good coaches
trail perch
Im sorry s1 boston was just a good team
Gamsu note dive was their best heros
Striker and Mistakes where insane
Pedocasper was good while he played
Neko was a top FS
Kellex wasnt bad
earnest leaf
Crusty did help a lot to make ans really good
balmy wolf
nah
balmy wolf
boston had a good dps line
earnest leaf
Iirc ans was all aim no brain from when they trialed him
balmy wolf
that was all
trail perch
Gamsu/Note on their best heros where a good tankline
And Kellex didnt hold the team back
balmy wolf
still no top team
trail perch
1/2 of the team was insane top tier playes
the other half was high tier that dont hold the team back
balmy wolf
thats enough for middle of the pack
trail perch
Thats just wrong lol
balmy wolf
you are wrong
balmy wolf
ok man
trail perch
Striker/Mistakes where a top DPS duo
Neko/Kellex was a top support duo
You cant say im wrong when the season ended
balmy wolf
thats why they all left the league without crusty
trail perch
And we know how it all ended
balmy wolf
big brain thinking
balmy wolf
bruh
primal minnow
How could season 1 Boston be bad when they were 3rd in the rankings?
balmy wolf
cause they are bad without proper coaching
trail perch
Thats like saying oh look Bumper and Tizi dont have a team
Must be because Harsha left
Ughhh Harsha diff
balmy wolf
wtf
trail perch
Thats exactly what ur saying
balmy wolf
are you saying
trail perch
Lol
balmy wolf
nah
trail perch
Imagine saying that Mistakes didnt find a team because he didnt have crusty
trail perch
Then after Harsha left the team, Bumper and Tizi didnt get resigned
balmy wolf
the rest - striker is what im talking about
trail perch
Must be because harsha was so good right?
balmy wolf
lol
trail perch
thats why they all left the league without crusty
...
balmy wolf
hell no
trail perch
Lol
balmy wolf
thats literally another reason
trail perch
So was every single other s1 boston player
balmy wolf
they just had a better replacement for them
balmy wolf
no im not
youre making up points that dont even make sense
i dont know how im disproving myself
i literally stayed with my point
maybe read it again if you dont understand
cedar oasis
We can all agree that Boston is bad
plush light
I want to get signed by boston. I'm 1500 sr. I think that's good enough for them.
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I think u need to be around 2500 to be signed by them 😔
trail perch
I wont accept Crimzo slander
But does that mean boston can sign me
3700 career high
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no thats too high @trail perch
didnt u see
around plat
low plat
if u are 2900 u are over qualified
cedar oasis
Try Vancouver
trail perch
Teru better than me :(
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ur better than crimzo
raw ermine
is it all sfs vs nyxl?
earnest leaf
Remember
This is on a patch that is irrelevant to what OWL will start on
Shock also just started scrimming
And NYXL has been for a while
gusty cairn
my peak is 4055 could i technically try out for any ow teams?
earnest leaf
If anything we could maybe look at it for a potential meta
But even then the new patch will probably change things
raw ermine
not Owl or contenders
weak bolt
Still 3 months till start of season, got time for 3 more metas before then
earnest leaf
You can tell shock looks out of it though, or that they are rusty a bit
plush grail
Those matches only show us current meta
earnest leaf
They weren't turbo coordinated as usual, but that's expected after a while without scrims
also super still benched 
mortal abyss
Shock have always taken a little time to get going like in season 2 and 3
tropic herald
@trail perch don’t leak scrim codes and even if they are fake you shouldn’t be faking leaking them
As an ultimatum, if you leak scrim codes, the mods will ban you
tropic herald
It’s a very serious thing
tropic herald
Basically it’s like revealing your hand of cards to the table at poker
Except it’s so random guy taking a picture of it and showing it off to the other people in your match
green stump
Yeah... That sounds like a bigger problem
tight hill
Where do you even get those?
green stump
Don't ask
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14 hours fuckkk
karmic grotto
oh shit
violet river
Morons
earnest leaf
I think for Grand finals weekend I just went to bed at midnight and woke up super early for the games
I was considering pulling all nighters but that would of gone horribly
earnest leaf
Rip
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gf was at 9am for me actually super lucky
violet river
Morons
tropic herald
https://twitter.com/dusttinbowerman/status/1352720096347623424?s=21 English co stream
tawdry hamlet
violet river
Morons
tawdry hamlet
violet river
Morons
plush grail
Can someone tell this kid to stop saying morons
violet river
Morons
tawdry hamlet
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moron says morons
plush grail
Wow nice one levy, hit him with the toddler roast lmao
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I know thank you
violet river
Morons
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unfortunately toddler level is my level 😔
tawdry hamlet
violet river
Morons
tropic herald
@violet river stop
violet river
Morons
plush grail
Thinking diya is getting signed is obviously low iq level
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shut
plush grail
Imagine needing a entire team to collapse just so your favorite player has a chance
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if it means im low iq so be it
plush grail
Imagine your favorite player not just getting approached by seoul randomly
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sbbenched
tawdry hamlet
Anyone on that team that wasn't korean moment
Besides fdgod and soon
Kind of sad they didn't have like 1 better player in s3
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what was their weak spot though
sparkle too inflexible?
fielder on high ping?
xzi cant play ashe?
hanbin sucks at hog?
idk
tropic herald
NoSmite was uhhh
raw ermine
all of them
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ohhhhh
tropic herald
Not good at monkey
tawdry hamlet
Benbest was benbtier
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weirdchamp
past spoke
nosmite monkey HAHAHAHA
tawdry hamlet
I mean any player in high ping is also a detriment loll
tropic herald
Not worth remembering
tawdry hamlet
Idk why else they were so bad
jolly steeple
I think he's kind of a forgettable player but I think he gets overhated when people talk about him
obviously guxue was way better
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big challenge can fielder feed sparkle and fearless at the same time
past spoke
when i think of fielder
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if he can dallas stonk
jolly steeple
big challenge can fielder feed sparkle and fearless at the same time
I've been saying this
past spoke
and then whiffing immo like 3 seconds after
it was so bad but i think hes good player
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200 ping is painful ok
earnest leaf
I want dallas to crumble so the meme lives on
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clutch sleep on genji makes him god
past spoke
i have to root for outlaws tho bc my friend is on it
tropic herald
Hello Joobi
past spoke
joobi mode
jolly steeple
i meant fielder
past spoke
Mah slime joobi
tawdry hamlet
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fielder s tier ana on 29 ping mayb 👀
past spoke
agree
tropic herald
Fielder should be good on fair ping
past spoke
i sorta lost interest in offseason pickups a few months ago
what teams r looking strong rn
tropic herald
For what region
tropic herald
Shanghai Philly and Hangzhou look like the best in APAC imo
Then Glads Shock n Dallas for NA
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justice too maybe
earnest leaf
justice look really good as well
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mag or muze
tropic herald
Justice could be good too
past spoke
jerry finally has chance to shine
tropic herald
But they have a bunch of unproven talent or slightly washed pieces
past spoke
i think he will do rly well no lie
earnest leaf
warm take, justice will be better than dallas this year
tropic herald
It’s possible
past spoke
rn teams are running
earnest leaf
They have the potential
past spoke
uhhh
earnest leaf
But It's not a gurantee
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I think its kinda like philly and paris where u get map 5 every time, or one of them is just significantly better
past spoke
brig zen, tracer sombra cree, ball dva
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shock will start slow
tropic herald
Yeah Sombra ball brig way tooo good
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won't look as dominant
earnest leaf
glads over shock is interesting
jolly steeple
I still see seoul being last
past spoke
but
tropic herald
I saw the ss
jolly steeple
ngl
past spoke
nyxl was rolling
tropic herald
And I know there is codes but I’m doing my best to rid code leakers :)
jolly steeple
valiant could build a really good roster
earnest leaf
@tropic herald glads over shock assuming muze/kevster pop off?
tropic herald
Yea
past spoke
muze good
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choi never raises question marks
past spoke
nyxls new pickups are actually rllllly good
jolly steeple
I feel like hes just peaked but many people will improve
tropic herald
Gwangboong is cracked out
jolly steeple
also choi has
tropic herald
Can’t wait to see him roll in owl
earnest leaf
His zarya isn't that bad
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it's okay
jolly steeple
its not at the level it should be
past spoke
choi is sorta mid rn honestly hes not bad and plays well, esp in coordination w team but i wouldnt call him like TOP top tier atm
earnest leaf
and zarya is rarely going to be played, so it's a tank he doesn't have to worry about
past spoke
compared to s2
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did u just call choi mid
past spoke
hmm
earnest leaf
???
earnest leaf
Choi has consistently been one of the best sig/dva players the past two seasons
jolly steeple
his dva is still really good
although he kinda inted some games on sigma
enough to put him below a lot of other sigma players, for me
earnest leaf
When you look at shock for weak points, choi almost never comes up
earnest leaf
he doesn't need to play ball though
earnest leaf
But like idk who would be better than choi, I can see an argument for void, but I feel like they are super close
jolly steeple
I remember this one game that really stood out to me
past spoke
o yea
jolly steeple
got slapped by garg
only reason it was concerning is because like
other top tier off tanks dont have games like that
earnest leaf
Everyone has off games
jolly steeple
choi had more than he should have
also
I can't name one game where void played bad
same for hanbin
plush grail
Might be burnt out
past spoke
hanbin O///O
plush grail
He's the only off tank on the best team
He plays every big match and he might just be stressed
earnest leaf
I mean he's heading into the third season of being the starting OT for them
plush grail
Yeah they need a backup
earnest leaf
So shock definitely trusts him
plush grail
They stocked up on dps but not the one place where they could end up crumbling
jolly steeple
They don't need to replace him
plush grail
Just a backup
jolly steeple
However I think by next year they would want to look into finding another OT
past spoke
how do u guys feel abt spitfire moving up hurricane
plush grail
Expected
jolly steeple
molf1g is an insane off tank
earnest leaf
Getting a back up is assuming choi has a point in the season where his mental plummets
jolly steeple
hadi might have some potential
earnest leaf
The season for that to happen has passed imo
past spoke
i am biased but helv>hadi o3o
plush grail
Yeah but still if choi ever gets sick or has to miss a game
You get super dva or sig
earnest leaf
Unless shock mega flop this season, but that's another issue
past spoke
wdym
jolly steeple
like no offense
plush grail
Pretty sure helv helped beat the streak
jolly steeple
but I'm just never impressed by him off of rein
plush grail
Of BH
past spoke
hes a rly good IGL
tropic herald
Imagine if Shock got GBS
jolly steeple
His rein would still be bottom in owl
jolly steeple
and his other heroes would be probably the worst out of any starting off tank
main tank
mb
past spoke
lower mid
tropic herald
Helv plays rein like ball at least from the games I watched him lol
plush grail
If shock get gbs it would be overkill but shock likes to do that
past spoke
LOL
jolly steeple
it is terrible
earnest leaf
Better to stock up on dps rather than tank players tbh
Since tank is usually gonna be the same few heroes
earnest leaf
OT is 99% of the time going to be dva or sig, and MT is gonna be ball or orisa majority of the time
jolly steeple
LMAO
past spoke
and it was better sadly
earnest leaf
but dps is all over the place
plush grail
Can't wait to see hydration ball!
past spoke
glad darkmode picked him up
jolly steeple
its so sad
earnest leaf
Hydration is on dps this season
plush grail
helv looks like he plays ball with inverted controls
yeah I remember watching one game and he was charging so much
Oh wait ur talking about ball
But still
It's like he plays rein with no monitor
Just charge button
jolly steeple
his rein is wack
past spoke
i do agree abt inconsistency
jolly steeple
he goes for the strangest plays
plush grail
Way baxk
plush grail
When BH almost lost the streak to obey
true hound
pharah doom?? hanzo too i think
plush grail
Helv played weird
jolly steeple
bro theyre gonna have to role swap jjanggu back to dps
tropic herald
When BH almost lost their streak to Avoided
jolly steeple
😭
earnest leaf
hydration will be the silly hero specialist
true hound
probs
jolly steeple
I just wish they had like
past spoke
avoided HAHAHAHA
jolly steeple
a good flexible fdps
past spoke
dat was almost bad
jolly steeple
because danteh just doesnt have the coverage
past spoke
im excited to see sparkr play
past spoke
my homie...
true hound
jake is mad
tropic herald
SparkR Pog
past spoke
joobi is rly rly good and underrated
i think houston is gonna have a way better season
true hound
man as soon as i saw the jake announcement
past spoke
than last yr
true hound
jumped outta my seat
true hound
houston things
tropic herald
I always look at Houston and think: it’s the bros
tropic herald
They all seem like really cool people but idk if that translates to winning games
plush grail
Shit winrate, good fun
tropic herald
Vancouver
tropic herald
The only certainty is Vancouver will be bottom
past spoke
frd is so funny and cool friend but he is not the best option
plush grail
They have like dalton and shred lock I think??
past spoke
there was nepotism in their roster additions
tropic herald
I’m confused why KSAA was dropped
plush grail
Ksaa was a highlight
past spoke
if he had lower ping
plush grail
Of titans
past spoke
hed be so good
past spoke
ksaa/shockwave were best on the team imo
they actually
dropped him
then posted a montage
LOL
earnest leaf
fucking oof
past spoke
it was like season 3 highlight!! ^_^
past spoke
yea that was erm.. strange
earnest leaf
Imagine a world they dropped shredlock, kept ksaa, and got benbest
plush grail
Libero
Is gonna end up without a team probably right
I feel like rascal and libero are gonna remain unsigned
Till we get news about new owl heroes and then they'll be the most wanted players
wanton birch
holy shit leagues group stages are getting over 100k viewership ?
trail perch
what league?
wanton birch
lcs
balmy wolf
This game still has active esports?
weak bolt
KSP name change is interesting, because it infers he still has an OWL team for this year
raw ermine
good point
although doesn't say THAT much about the LAV situation
this kai we're talking about
weak bolt
yeah, it either means LAV stuff is junk, or another team picked him up
raw ermine
most likely player to be picked up on LAV
weak bolt
I'd think London or Paris picked him up really
wanton birch
around when should we expect the shock championship and fleta mvp skin come out
weak bolt
Mid/Late 2021
Championship skin was around mid season, and mvp maybe 3/4 of way through
next mesa
I'm boutta buy fleta mvp skin
digital quail
i play on console and its not out yet
wanton birch
man since when has eu been so much worse than na
fuck me toxic assholes everygame that think theyre the shit in diamond
id rather play on 100 ping on na than deal with constant dicks from former russian countries
plush grail
EU is horrible
wanton birch
idk why its always people from belarus or ukrain
plush grail
One half is super stuck up and the other is just toxic
wanton birch
like im sorry your country is pretty shit but whats that gotta do with my mercy skills ???
plush grail
UK people in comp are always garbage
weak bolt
EU comp can be horrid, as you have so many different languages
plush grail
In my games language is never a problem
But people don't wanna work together
Tell someone that playing winston into reaper isn't that good
wanton birch
eu is just so much more aggressive
plush grail
And just to spite you they will refuse to switch
wanton birch
from my experience na is a lot more passive aggressive which ill take over dudes screaming fuck your mother
next mesa
Bloomberg: Blizzard Absorbs Activision Studio After Dismantling Classic Games Team.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-22/blizzard-absorbs-activision-studio-after-dismantling-classic-games-team
Oops
Sorry if it's irrelevant but what does this mean
raw ermine
they took a game studio
they as in activision, not bliz
and made it part of bliz
and said they can only work on bliz games
vagrant jacinth
UK people in comp are always garbage
pepehands
Also, I've been gone a while so
Holy fuck jake is bacc
next mesa
Ohh ayt pog
slow kraken
EU is horrible
EU is way better than nA lmao
trail perch
CN?
slow kraken
CN?
trail perch
Idk
slow kraken
Then change Korea for Asia
Asia is the best
The only way NA is better than EU is when all EU players go to NA
The only reason NA is good is because most talent is imported from other places
earnest leaf
didn't a full EU roster that had been playing together for a year lose to a freshly made team of NA players
well I think a few of them played together on doge
but NA> EU
ez
tight axle
Ehh. It's not that simple. You can say EU bc of British hurricane being insane and you could say na bc of the upset. It kind of changes. I think that EU has more good talent than na but Ehh. Someone should make a list of every EU and NA player in owl and top tier contenders and we compare
earnest leaf
the rough part is there is a lot of talent in EU/NA t2 that are underage
earnest leaf
they swapped back and forth on servers
Whoever lost got to play the next map on their server
balmy wolf
i believe the collective EU players in OWL are better individually then NA players
balmy wolf
both AT and BH were outliers in their respective region
all of them are already t1 but most of are underage
tropic herald
It’s because most of AT is underage and the ones that aren’t have pasts that won’t let them in owl soon
earnest leaf
yea and london the parent team went budget so that helps those players
wooden swan
largecat66#4278
tropic iron
i reckon there is better damage players in eu than na but the tanks in the na region are insane,
digital cloud
I dunno, eu seems more into ow than na
tawdry hamlet
Space and Super are NA and Shockwave and Linkzr and Onigod are eu
I'd say damage goes to eu easily but tanks probably na and flex support goes to neither lmaoo
Apac just built different with flex support
forest raven
korea has the better everything
tawdry hamlet
Main support is the only role that is contested for better in na or eu and that's just moth and fdgod barely holding it lmao
earnest leaf
the only good na dps players retired
well danteh isn't bad
but sinatraa and corey were nuts
sullen berry
First match coming soon™
feral zodiac
Space and Super are NA and Shockwave and Linkzr and Onigod are eu <:Salutations:...
How u gonna forget ksp
sullen berry
seriously though
if you're not awake right now to watch shanghai vs element mystic
what is wrong with you (time would be a terrible excuse)
livid pond
anyone can translate lol?
sullen berry
AVRL is co-streaming
he won't be doing live translations but he can follow the mandarin
livid pond
tyty
sullen berry
it's still previews but really
nobody here is going to promote it
being a local tournament hosting the 4/8 East division teams
no valiant, no spark
it sounds like he just mentioned he will be "casting" this season
I really want to see AVRL casting this year full time
🥺 🥺 🥺 🥺
fickle flicker
when does the overwatch league start again? 😦
fickle flicker
for real? it's been so long already 
sullen berry
now is the time to do it
someone is going to want to watch it, I'll be broadcasting it I guess
fickle flicker
obi your pfp is so cute! 
karmic grotto
fuel not even trying. they're giving xzi some playtime
balmy wolf
?
karmic grotto
I want to see Doha playing Sombra now
karmic grotto
which is why you play these games to practice
balmy wolf
they should try sombra
balmy wolf
prob scrimmed with tracer
karmic grotto
i think so
balmy wolf
doha on sombra now
plush grail
wow this is nice!
the dallas cycle of pain starts early
dont have to wait till april
karmic grotto
well, dragons is a really good team though
plush grail
people who doubted the fearless trade for fate
karmic grotto
But why do people think Fuel had a chance of winning against Dragons?
it's just one team
damn
it's not like Fuel will beat Shock
plush grail
wait so so far the meta currently is
tracer ball right
which are like
all of the weak spots on dallas
plush grail
wow boston season 3 must have been gods near the end of the season
balmy wolf
dallas just testing
sullen berry
testing but no fielder today
balmy wolf
prob ill
sullen berry
field testing with fielder like I'm just feeling like that would affect their performance today
like when you can't play lastro
plush grail
doesn't he mostly play bap ana
sullen berry
and apply wasn't able to fill his spot
plush grail
3 - 
sullen berry
3-0verwatch
both teams with their home skins makes me go 😍
✅ things you won't get in OW League
rip creative's ult
sullen berry
that's how most of these matches go
one outplays the other constantly
it's hardly one-sided matches
but for those that believe it in their hearts, it's still in favour of seoul
sullen berry
chat is dead - who will win?
Charge or Dynasty
plush grail
sbb team
also pretty sure like 99% of the people who chat here are just gonna watch the vods
sullen berry
if it's not one sided then I'd be disappointed
sullen berry
no it's really late
just like Hex's drunken episode
that was all sleep deprivation
sullen berry
nah I'm outside US
sullen berry
wonder if jihun winston would also work
ana diff
Charge holds
while Choisehwan and Eileen dunk on saebyeolbe's tracer
plush grail
sadge sbb
balmy wolf
!play
sullen berry
reject tradition
embrace modernity
sullen berry
lmao
i get it
I did the same thing when a pause went for hours during an old dogman stream
the match was eventually cut short and postponed
balmy wolf
xD
balmy wolf
i love these streams
plush grail
ofourse the guy named marbel loves the marble game
balmy wolf
never won tho 😦