#esports-discussion

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ebon iron
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but in apac

sand violet
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just not as good?

ebon iron
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he was fourth best

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yea

next mesa
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wasn't there a huge bid on gaebullsi

ebon iron
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in APAC it was like void bianca

next mesa
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wtf

ebon iron
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and maybe sasin

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or crong

balmy wolf
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GBS is probably signed

ebon iron
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maybe lateyoing

violet river
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Lateyoung zarya was poggers

plush grail
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but apac is still gonna be a shitshow, nyxl is a team of mostly unproven rookies, la valiant is gonna compete there for the first time

ebon iron
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but idk

mortal abyss
sand violet
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I think GBS is signed or in the process of getting signed even if he is posting lft

ebon iron
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apparently

balmy wolf
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I think players post LFTs despite being signed cus idk

next mesa
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valiant is gonna dump their whole roster

ebon iron
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what I heard is this

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basically

sand violet
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or worst case scenario a deal falls through and he just joins another team

next mesa
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sign diya innovation mmonk superich pog

violet river
hot onyx
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GBS’ lft was last month?

ebon iron
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teams need to buyout players from contenders

next mesa
plush grail
balmy wolf
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Wait how is NYXL unproven rookies

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Lmgao

ebon iron
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but the reason why

balmy wolf
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What

next mesa
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beijing banger

plush grail
ebon iron
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teams need to buyout players from contenders but since wgs is disbanding after the gauntlet (rn), boston and Glads waited after so they can sign the players to cheaper contracts

balmy wolf
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New to OWL is a dogshit point that has 0 weight to it

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And no

plush grail
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im not saying its a bad team

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but just a wildcard

balmy wolf
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Only one that didnt preform in T2 was Friday

plush grail
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they could either dominate or get dominated

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we can't really know yet

next mesa
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why did oz gaming have 3 players signed

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but they are dogshit in contenders

zealous pelican
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because their talent was good

ebon iron
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they are all backups

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well

next mesa
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another one just got signed to t1 too

craggy sandal
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Because good players but they had bad coaches

ebon iron
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aside from friday

balmy wolf
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Checkmate is insane

zealous pelican
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checkmate could start

balmy wolf
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Tho

ebon iron
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I think Friday was bcus of Jjonak but idk

sand violet
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I dont consider rookies unproven as long as they performed to a high level in a strong contenders region. So like I would never call mag or gaga unproven because they were the best of insanely strong regions for so long, its just weird to act like they wont be able to compete. I would call friday unproven since he hasnt performed to a top level but besides that everyone is proven to be good in strong regions

balmy wolf
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You mean develop on Talon?

zealous pelican
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gwangboong yakpung feath5r are proven

sand violet
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^

next mesa
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okay saint the qustion everyone's been waiting for

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how do u rate crimzo

sand violet
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low tier lol. hes not necessarily bad on his own but fs is stacked

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and he cant compete off of like

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moria

next mesa
sand violet
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which doesnt matter

next mesa
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get fucked

violet river
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Where do you rate crimzo levy

zealous pelican
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what

plush grail
next mesa
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no

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there's just like

mortal abyss
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Crimzo vs Boombox

next mesa
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2 crimzo fanboys

zealous pelican
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but unproven in owl means nothing

next mesa
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that are like

true hound
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levy has a hate boner for crimzo

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lmao

sand violet
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You realize that the top contenders regions scrim owl several times a day?

next mesa
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he's top 10 fs

balmy wolf
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When has a player that's ever looked good in T2 looked bad in OWL

zealous pelican
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crimzo is bottom 3 in owl

sand violet
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and have similar resources and schedules to owl?

next mesa
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no I just think he's bad

balmy wolf
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Crimzo isnt even the best western FS anymore

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LOL

next mesa
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who is

sand violet
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like the only thing that theyre new to is the name of the Overwatch League but in all other forms theyve been competing at that level for ages

violet river
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Kaan

sand violet
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UV

balmy wolf
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Kaan

sand violet
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is best

zealous pelican
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kaan and uv

sand violet
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nah

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cap

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UV

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goated

balmy wolf
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No

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Kaan

zealous pelican
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uv will be next year

sand violet
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ur eu

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stop typing

balmy wolf
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I litterally

sand violet
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L

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u lost to AT

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L

violet river
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Kaan goated

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Kaan bap

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I lost

balmy wolf
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Kaan wasnt even playing thatbgame

sand violet
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L

ebon iron
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also realistically speaking

plush grail
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im really hoping paris end up becoming mid tier instead of bottom like everyone is predicting

ebon iron
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which meta are Glads better then fuel at?

green stump
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@sand violet btw, rant is making a scrim team for server scrims

ebon iron
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aside from tracer

balmy wolf
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But Kaan has Neptuno who is the worse Ms in 2021 so idk

sand violet
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anyways I have a big issue with ppl calling rookies "unproven" despite being top tier in KR and CN which are just as intense as OWL and constantly scrim with OWL anyways. Theyre used to the environment, the structure, the schedule, really the only thing they would have no experience with is LAN which is irrelevant rn

balmy wolf
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LOL

green stump
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Even azura fucking came back to join it

balmy wolf
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Paris are getting fucked in scrims

sand violet
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that team is going to be so bad nai LOL

green stump
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That's the point

digital cloud
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do you think that lan play is going to make a big difference?

plush grail
next mesa
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is kevster gonna body or what

violet river
mortal abyss
balmy wolf
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I'm EU T3 lmfao

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@sand violet vouch

sand violet
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its on a person to person thing. Some people play better on lan because no ping, they like the environment (like decay), etc. Some peopel are nervous and play worse. You cant just say one way or the other

plush grail
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ok but whats ur source tho

balmy wolf
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Rephid

sand violet
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bro ur like t4 SA PepeLaugh

ebon iron
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lol

balmy wolf
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Hahahahahhaha

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Funny saint

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Wait is NTB in this server

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@ntb

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Fuck

digital cloud
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at least you aren't Oceania lol

true hound
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i think i saw thta name but dont think hes here anymore

sand violet
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I would expect players like decay or striker to be even better on lan, but maybe some rookies would be worse

balmy wolf
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But like

plush grail
sand violet
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but ppl like mag and gaga who have been 1st place for years, I find it hard to believe theyd just crack at lan

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kr has done lans too I just dk how many or often

balmy wolf
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Paris went 0-6 with sheer cold in scrims 😭

digital cloud
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I know most people don't take stuff off lan seriously, so I was curious

sand violet
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kr contenders used to have finals on lan

worn falcon
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fielder playing bad since he isnt in 200 ping anymore

violet river
next mesa
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should paris have taken benbest instead

mortal abyss
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Gauntlet had finals on lan didnt it

violet river
balmy wolf
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2019 ye

violet river
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No clue why

ebon iron
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ok but tell me

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besides tracer

next mesa
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weirdchamp

ebon iron
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what meta is Glads better then fuel

violet river
ebon iron
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exactlt

balmy wolf
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Because Benbest fell out with the management after they dropped Koreans

ebon iron
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it's just tracer and ig ashe

plush grail
ebon iron
violet river
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Bap zen glads are better

ebon iron
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?

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no

balmy wolf
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I litterally just told you

ebon iron
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fielder/rapel

violet river
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Like a hard double shield if they get gbs glads better

next mesa
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who will play tracer on fuel

balmy wolf
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I'm in the pro sence of EU and have friends there

next mesa
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sparkle

balmy wolf
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Nobody

next mesa
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?

zealous pelican
ebon iron
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yea

mortal abyss
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Shu better then fielder

ebon iron
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sp9

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shu is better

balmy wolf
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They just dont play Tracer

plush grail
balmy wolf
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Moth is better then Jecse

ebon iron
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but rapel > skewed

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also

violet river
mortal abyss
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Moth also better then jevse

violet river
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Is good

ebon iron
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moth bap xd

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aren't u houston fan?

balmy wolf
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Ah yeah lemme just post a screenshot of a Voice call of course

violet river
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Houston titans

violet river
ebon iron
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and u think moth > rapel on bap

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or fielder

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either one

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bcus that's just wrong

balmy wolf
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How

violet river
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I mean shu is a better zen

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Def

balmy wolf
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Is it

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Moth mechanics are overhated

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Its legitimately so annoying to see lmfao

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Hes easily a top 4 MS with Mechanics

ebon iron
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again

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sure

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but not better on bap then any of fuels fs

trail perch
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but he's not the best

ebon iron
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also for mechanics for ms

worn falcon
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viol2t best bap

ebon iron
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idk

worn falcon
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dps bap

balmy wolf
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Because hes had no reason to play bap

next mesa
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could rapel start over fieder

trail perch
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Mechanics not as important lol

ebon iron
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he played it a little bit

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and either way

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skewed will play bap

violet river
trail perch
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The thing is moth isnt going to be that good on glads

ebon iron
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not moth

balmy wolf
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If hes the main bap hes better

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What

balmy wolf
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Wheres ur logic for that

trail perch
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Bc they need a more playmaking player

violet river
balmy wolf
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No they dont

trail perch
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Look at their team

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Look at the tanks

mortal abyss
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They already have playmakers

true hound
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they have kevster bruh

balmy wolf
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They have Birdring Kevster

violet river
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Bird and kev are playmakers

balmy wolf
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?????

true hound
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and birdring

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yea

ebon iron
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nvm I'm out

trail perch
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They dont need a passive MS

balmy wolf
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MuZe is insane wtf are you smoking

zealous pelican
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birdring kevster muze arent playmakers?

trail perch
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They need someone to play up w them

balmy wolf
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?

zealous pelican
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moth

violet river
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Me braincells

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Gone

plush grail
zealous pelican
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can do that

balmy wolf
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what

trail perch
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Muze is a very supportive MT

zealous pelican
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hes not an ai

balmy wolf
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So playmakers = aggressive players

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LOL

zealous pelican
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hes the most adaptable and versatile ms in the world

violet river
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Moth was a big playmaker for the shock

trail perch
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Someone like Mandu or LJG would fit the team better

balmy wolf
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No

violet river
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Moth came up clutch for shock so many times

balmy wolf
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They wouldnt

plush grail
balmy wolf
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Moth is litterally the smartest player in pro OW

trail perch
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LJG was insane all season

violet river
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You don’t remember when fuel killed 2 and moth and rascal wasn’t there

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So 2 left

balmy wolf
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LJG turbo fed a lot

violet river
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And moth boops two to clutch

zealous pelican
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lgj was only consistently top tier on brig

true hound
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ljg turbo fed and got punished for it by shock

violet river
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And his 3 man which won next fight vs Toronto

balmy wolf
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Played like a brainlet didnt get punished because bottom of Apac was shit

violet river
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Moth can be a playmaker if he needs to

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He’s very adaptive

trail perch
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I guess only time will tell

plush grail
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s4 is gonna roll around and the tierlists are just gonna be flipped

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paris and london end up dominating

digital cloud
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would be funny, but no

true hound
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houston wins s4

digital cloud
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I wish

violet river
digital cloud
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Houston gonna be trash like always

true hound
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sh

digital cloud
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maybe mid

violet river
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17th imo

true hound
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not with the minecraft pvp god

violet river
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Next year

plush grail
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danteh

digital cloud
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I can see them maybe doing well if the roster has potential and they let it grow

plush grail
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hunger games god

true hound
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wdym hunger games

digital cloud
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danteh joke

true hound
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he played builduhc ladder and uhc

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not hunger games

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lol

plush grail
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i know he played uhc

balmy wolf
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This is actually

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A goated meta for Houston

plush grail
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jokes

balmy wolf
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Its insane

digital cloud
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yeah, but it might shift a bit

mortal abyss
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Philly would be pog in this meta

digital cloud
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they already tweaked ball sig

ebon iron
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piggy zar

plush grail
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owl will start with a way different meta for sure

ebon iron
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danteh on tracer or echo

balmy wolf
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Poko Zarya sig PepePoint

digital cloud
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Zarya straight trash rn

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too much damage

balmy wolf
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No

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Shes not

sand violet
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I disagree with the idea that moth is a passive ms. When shock are on brawl theyre one of the most aggro teams the league has seen. He is just able to play reserved and sets up his team rather than having his team set him up, but he can absolutely play with the aggro

balmy wolf
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Ball Zarya is Viable

digital cloud
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what with, then

balmy wolf
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And if ur good enough on those heros you can 100% make it work

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double bubble big aswell

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Echo Tracer Mercy Zen

sand violet
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if u play zar ur playing echo tracer mercy zen

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^]

digital cloud
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how are you protecting zen that way?

sand violet
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dont ask me why or how, I still think sig is better LMAO

digital cloud
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yeah, wouldn't you want sig with zen?

balmy wolf
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positioning

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Sigma is still better

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But Zarya is relevant and viable

jolly steeple
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sigma functions with the strength of one million heroes

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remove that stupidass hero

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i want to play monkey

true hound
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watch blizz rebuff sig

digital cloud
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monkey probably the worst rn

balmy wolf
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pls nerf supports

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first

digital cloud
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why would supports need to be nerfed

balmy wolf
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brig

digital cloud
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high damage is the problem

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brig is fine

balmy wolf
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game winning cds

zealous pelican
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rein is worse than monkey

true hound
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just delete her

balmy wolf
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massive ultimates

true hound
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xd

digital cloud
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zen is probably more of a problem than her rn

trail perch
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Brig is useless sadly

true hound
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nah bruh

trail perch
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I miss old brig

true hound
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rally is broke

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why

trail perch
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what rank r u lol

balmy wolf
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zen is strong when protected

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then hes op

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but he needs brig or bap for that

digital cloud
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bap immort is so good for that

balmy wolf
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so the frontline and dps dont need to peel

digital cloud
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and everything else

balmy wolf
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and put out dmg

digital cloud
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imagine bap brig at their heights rn

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if the best version of them were currently in this meta

trail perch
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That would be fun

balmy wolf
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they are still op af

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Brig is fine

trail perch
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Old brig was so much fun

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I miss GOATS

digital cloud
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goats was so good

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sort of hard to watch the bad teams get stomped

balmy wolf
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lucio needs to be good

digital cloud
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but man it was so good when the top teams did it

trail perch
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anyone who thinks goats was bad, either in ladder or pro play

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Is just a DPS player

mortal abyss
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Shock vs Titans stage 1 finals

trail perch
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Period

mortal abyss
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Inject it into my veins

balmy wolf
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goats was bad

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for the game

trail perch
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in what way?

balmy wolf
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no dps for 1 yeare

trail perch
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Bc dps mains got salty

balmy wolf
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massive player base loss

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bruh

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of course

trail perch
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Oh no the worst group of ow players stop playing

next mesa
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dps mains

trail perch
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Thats awful

mortal abyss
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Well would you not get salty if your role was dog shut for a year

balmy wolf
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wtf

next mesa
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u mean 50% of the playerbase

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weirdchamp

trail perch
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The community is better without DPS players

balmy wolf
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you want the game to die or what

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ok man

violet river
next mesa
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this guy

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crimzo is dogshit its beeen approved by contenders coach now

trail perch
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NOOOO

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STOP LYING

next mesa
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🗿

trail perch
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HE'S AT LEAST SIGNED TO A TEAM

digital cloud
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more people should have played things other than dps

trail perch
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(Diya)

digital cloud
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them leaving was good

trail perch
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Yeah

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It was

digital cloud
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play something else for god's sake

balmy wolf
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no it wasnt

trail perch
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Also dps instalock onetricks

balmy wolf
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bro

digital cloud
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play fucking tank or support once in a while

balmy wolf
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we needed 222

trail perch
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Where awful to queue into

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Ew lol

balmy wolf
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for it to go

trail perch
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What rank where u again?

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2-2-2 killed the game

digital cloud
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222 is decent, I think, but the abundance of dps is annoying

balmy wolf
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game needs dps to suceed

trail perch
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So ur one of those people

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Who love to deny facts

next mesa
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2-2-2 was so good for the game

balmy wolf
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are you trolling man

violet river
balmy wolf
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stop

trail perch
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And realize that the game was better before 2-2-2

violet river
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2 2 2 is shit

balmy wolf
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it was better

trail perch
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Even viewership was up

ebon iron
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no

balmy wolf
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but nmot without dps

next mesa
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4 players instalock dps ok

trail perch
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S2 had more viewers than s3

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Lol

balmy wolf
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cause of s1

digital cloud
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yeah, comp was hell for bottom tier without 222

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when I was in gold, 5 dps instantly

balmy wolf
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they all left during goats

trail perch
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I mean I was masters during that time, and 2-2-2 ruined it

digital cloud
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had to be the one support usually

balmy wolf
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never came back

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then ur boosted idk

digital cloud
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I still get games off my sr by multiple hundreds both ways when queueing because no one plays tank

balmy wolf
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make fun tanks be meta

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and we good to go

digital cloud
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that is the problem

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all are fun

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no one sees it

balmy wolf
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we need poke to go

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u played orisa

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poke tanks are boring

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and i say that as a sig main

digital cloud
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I play all tanks but ball

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and I like ball, I just suck at him

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they are all good

balmy wolf
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same tbh

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hes hard to play

digital cloud
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my ball is literally gold lmao

balmy wolf
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but insane if you master him

digital cloud
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yeah, there is a reason he is meta

balmy wolf
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hes annoying tho

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i dont see him being good helps the game

digital cloud
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he probably could use less shields still

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he would still survive pretty well due to mobility

balmy wolf
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too much cc and survivability i think

next mesa
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didnt they just nerf

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the shields

digital cloud
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yes, said "still"

next mesa
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oh

balmy wolf
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he just rolls through your team

next mesa
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honestly I think

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they should revert the shields

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and make it so that shields give you ult charge

balmy wolf
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without punishment

next mesa
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yeah you need some sort of punishment

digital cloud
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that would make him as bad as hog

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well, hog is decentish now

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that would make him as bad as hog was forever

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but he needs more nerfs I think, somehow

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or other tanks need buffs somehow

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rein needs some sort of mobility that doesn't guarantee he dies

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or a get off tool

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zarya is probably fine if other tanks are buffed

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etc., etc.

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or maybe dps needs to decrease

next mesa
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yes theres powercreep

hot crown
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ok

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@next mesa why is Mai-San pointing at me

next mesa
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sorry she only points at the mvp

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🙏

plush grail
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she's for sure not pointing at diya

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cause he's never getting signed

next mesa
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stop stomping on my heart

digital cloud
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imagine diya ends up like ryu

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old and bitter

runic olive
worn falcon
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sbb

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old and bitter

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and drunk

plush grail
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shut up sbb isn't gonna end up like jhong

digital cloud
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did we think jhong was gonna be like jhong?

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apply logic here

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obviously, all the greatest players are going to plummet to new lows now

cedar oasis
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not all of them

violet river
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Morons

plush grail
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u

hot crown
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u

noble nexus
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u

silk frost
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u

sand violet
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Daily reminder that if chengdu had gotten lige and super rich they wouldve been a top 5 team

plush grail
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why the fuck would a chinese team pick up super

sand violet
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superrich

digital cloud
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superrich

sand violet
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the ms

plush grail
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i know super is rich

sand violet
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lmao

plush grail
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who?

sand violet
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... the Chinese ms on team CC?

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Chengdu got some of the best talent from the best contenders team but they didn't get lige and superrich and that's rly the only things holding them back

digital cloud
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that and not being shanghai

plush grail
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chengdu still bottom

sand violet
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Honestly if chengdu got lige and superrich I could see them above shanghai

tropic herald
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I bet Chengdu got outbid or something by Hangzhou

sand violet
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As long as Rui stays

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Oh for sure

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Bc spark

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Has fuck you money

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They're giga rich

tropic herald
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BiliBili is insane money

digital cloud
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I desire fuck you money

sand violet
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They for sure got outbid it wasn't like they didn't want lige he's hands down the best chinese ot

plush grail
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if chinese teams wanted to they could probably just buy shock

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every team except for the chinese has money issues of some sort

tropic herald
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Wasn’t their rumors of Shanghai nearly nabbing Viol2t

sand violet
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We could've seen a chinese super team if chengdu got lige and superrich, sadge

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Yeah there were early rumors

plush grail
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cant wait for valiant to become a chinese org

next mesa
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Why is superich not on a team doe

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But what's his name Nisha is

hidden vault
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Chengdu is the only org without korean lmao

craggy sandal
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London

next mesa
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muffin not a pedo??

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mouffin*

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he still sexually assaulted woman just the pedo part

quartz cairn
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damn

earnest leaf
#

So a horny weirdo

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but not a pedo

next mesa
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isn't khaleesi known for being like a lying bitch no offense

green stump
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@next mesa if it's true, because mouffin just being a horny guy wouldn't matter

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Could be fake though but if true.. that's a lot of people who basically hounded a guy for a crime he didn't commit

next mesa
#

no he still assaulted like

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grown adult women

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i think

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from what im getting at

green stump
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Apparently from the sounds of it, that may not be true

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Change adult to.. bring extremely cringe and simpush

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Er simpish

next mesa
#

huh

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then that's tragic

green stump
#

Yeah but also just very unfortunate

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Because if true, less people will care about it

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His carrier basically would be ruined over a jealous ex

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But.. could be fake

quartz cairn
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she bans ppl for clipping funny / embarassing moments on twitch and posting them on noobhunter and shit

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there was also a clip not too long ago where she literally ran into minefields on purpose right after respawning, causing the enemy to snowball the team and win the round

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some guy said 'what the fuck' in voice chat and she called him sexist

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wait lemme see if i can find them

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then theres this

next mesa
#

omg she likes to throw games 😂 that's so funny

ebon iron
next mesa
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WHAT?????

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wait

#

who

tropic herald
#

the forgotten spitfire main tank

raw ermine
#

Jihun? thought he retired

tropic herald
#

Jihun did retire but appears they are back

raw ermine
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also rip Numlocked retired

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a soul for a soul

balmy wolf
#

Owl is stupid

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Ngl

sullen berry
#

It's ball time

jolly steeple
#

this is an awful signing

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for gzc

sullen berry
#

I don't have to agree with it being good

#

But will it be better than Rio

jolly steeple
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all this means is that rio is washed and is a horse otp now

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Feel like they could have signed pokpo or something

sullen berry
#

If its to give him competition or if he is outright better, we'll notice it this weekend vs Shanghai

silk frost
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Rio is good

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just solid

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not pop off but solid

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never gonna over or under preform

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but how tf is it that JIHUN is the one to make it back and not FUZE, SANGUINAR, OR BABEL

jolly steeple
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well

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fuze is horrible

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sanguinar was probably considering not taking any offers

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until recently

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babel should probably be in owl

silk frost
#

Fuze was okay I thought

sullen berry
#

Babel I can see in contenders

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Sanguinar is on O2 Blast

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With although

silk frost
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o2 better dominate

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they HAVE to be what they were supposed to be in 2020

trail perch
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didnt they win contendies s1?

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With yakpung?

silk frost
#

yeah

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but s2 was MUCH worse

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like 3-0d kinda worse

craggy sandal
#

After they lost chilhwa they went downhill pretty quick

sullen berry
#

Yeah Yakpung was never enough

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And his return back to overwatch I'm not optimistic that he'll make a splash, I hope he is more consistent

tawdry hamlet
#

that isn't a bad pickup for gz since their current main tank has a few holes so having a backup for certain heroes is always nice

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even if that main tank is uhh

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jihun

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rip if the pedo part was never true he could have pulled a kephrii and just sort of moved on from a sexual scandal

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but too late now oh well

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mouffin kind of weirdchamp anyway

sullen berry
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today was a day that halo didn't need to leak ahead of time

karmic grotto
#

halo wanted to surprise us

plush light
#

Bad pickup

violet river
#

It’s
sex
big dick

mortal abyss
#

yeha

plush light
#

Shit i did it wrong

mortal abyss
#

how could you

plush light
#

Sex
Big dick

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Better now

plush grail
mortal abyss
#

Atleast sleepy is good at the game

quartz cairn
#

thats why u give a one trick their hero

plush grail
quartz cairn
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hes good but throws too much

mortal abyss
plush grail
#

sleepy fucking made owl before harblue

mortal abyss
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Sleepy was a good flex support

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in OWL

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s1

plush grail
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streaming is just more profitable

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and because he's not that interesting he has to do weird shit for views

feral zodiac
#

What main tanks is rio bad at?

mortal abyss
#

Ball i think

raw ermine
#

I thought he was good at ball

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yeah it's rated as his 2nd best hero on liquipedia

mortal abyss
#

oh

trail perch
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Rio rein and monkey eh

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His orisa and ball are good

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Its like stand1

violet river
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Based

turbid cairn
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hello

silk frost
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Rio isnt bad at anyone

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Except maybe monkey

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But monkey is bad so thats okay, they'll just play ball

raw ermine
#

monkey is rated his best hero

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lol

balmy wolf
#

you can play monkey

#

ball is better

#

but monkey is still playable

mortal abyss
#

Acc nvm this is blizzard we’re talking about

#

We’ll probably have this for another year

noble nexus
#

until gf when they make bastion invincible and remove shields or some shit

gilded dagger
#

jihun was actually kinda leaked last night

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i saw him on liquipedia so i already knew this was coming

silk frost
#

Actually they did just Nerf sigma

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And it was an actual nerf

sullen berry
gilded dagger
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u couldve saw it on liquipedia last night is what i meant

plush grail
#

im pretty sure liquipedia is run by fans right

#

they don't have inside information?

sullen berry
#

it is crowdsourced by different folks

#

there's very few insiders liquipedia has since you have to put a bit of effort to know how to edit a wiki page

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most are very efficient when they hit the F5

silk frost
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

raw ermine
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OH YEAH

#

thats excellent

next mesa
#

Not bad

plush light
mortal abyss
#

Classic

next mesa
#

I saw this one

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Very pog voice

mortal abyss
#

Everything about that video is perfect

plush light
#

Who is your favorite player to have ever played in overwatch esports?
Owl or contenders or pre-owl.
Mine is peak pine or maybe sayaplayer

mortal abyss
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Alarm or Pine

plush light
#

I also really like kariv

mortal abyss
#

Pine was a blast to watch on a good day

plush light
#

Remember main tank alarm when he played with carpe bernar bunny and twilight

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On bk stars

mortal abyss
#

Ah yeah

plush light
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And carpe genji

#

Did anyone else forget about Krystal existing? He was cracked

next mesa
#

this is why jmac retired guys

tropic herald
#

Outlaws teasing something

earnest leaf
#

Wonder if it's a coach or something

raw ermine
#

GaeBullSsi?

tropic herald
#

GBS would make zero sense

true hound
#

ml7

tropic herald
#

Considering Avast’s comment of wow that was quick

#

I think it’s a Valiant player?

worn falcon
digital cloud
#

lastro

#

lastro would be good

next mesa
#

true

feral zodiac
#

Ksp shocko1MonkaS

#

Wait nah they already have happy

next mesa
#

valiant player?

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any source

digital cloud
#

speculation due to avast comment

#

personally I thought they were done with signings

#

they could use a few more tanks and supports if you ask me

feral zodiac
#

Definitely more supports

digital cloud
#

and a better flex than ksf, but whatever

#

wish they had gotten nero, geez

feral zodiac
#

They are in need of a main supp

trail perch
#

Better MS

#

Crimzo is king

digital cloud
#

ditch the crimzo

trail perch
#

banned

#

/ban

feral zodiac
#

Crimzo is good

#

Not lastro level but good

digital cloud
#

so is roar, technically

feral zodiac
#

???

digital cloud
#

roar is better than 99% of the overwatch player base

feral zodiac
#

Are you trying to compare roar to crimzo?

digital cloud
#

do we want roar

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no

feral zodiac
#

alright how about this

#

Crimzo played well in owl

digital cloud
#

gasp

feral zodiac
#

Did roar?

digital cloud
#

crimzo was mediocre at best

feral zodiac
#

Eh, I think he was one of the brighter spots on dallas

next mesa
#

there was one bright spot on dallas

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decay

#

sometimes doha shine a tiny bit

true hound
#

WHAT

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HOLY

wanton birch
#

YOOOOOOOOO

#

WHAT THE FUCK

#

honestly kind of sad not to have him casting

raw ermine
#

wait

#

its REAL?

#

nahhh

next mesa
#

h o l d o n

#

WHAT THE FUCK

raw ermine
#

it is

#

WHAT

noble nexus
#

fucking unreal

#

JAKERAT

raw ermine
#

better the gaebullsi

#

he says he'll be slightly more of a coach

#

but is still a player

untold wraith
#

i hope he onetricks junk

trail perch
#

JAKE RAT

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HES BACK

untold wraith
#

junkrat specialist omegalul

trail perch
#

AFTER ROLLING THE SHOCK

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HES BACK

raw ermine
next mesa
#

its official boys

raw ermine
#

thats the real philly account

next mesa
#

Houston just went from bottom 6 to #1

slow kraken
#

Jake it way better than he was back then

#

Hasn’t hit his prime yet

raw ermine
#

Yeah. He's actually good at tracer

slow kraken
#

He’s one of the best flex ngl

balmy wolf
#

so now there are 5 dps on houston

raw ermine
#

Danteh Jake

#

thats actually kinda cracked

balmy wolf
#

jake said he was going heavy on coaching, so i'd imagine he'll be a sub player

slow kraken
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Yh

supple prism
#

is he a player or a coach?

raw ermine
#

player

#

that coaches a lot

silk frost
#

UH

#

UM

#

WHAT

tropic herald
#

What

balmy wolf
#

coach emphasis, but as a backup player

tropic herald
#

I think he’s a player given everything I’ve read

silk frost
#

it says DPS not coach

silver badger
#

wait

#

wait

#

jake is back

wanton birch
#

in his post he says hell be on a player contract but will also be acting as a coach

gilded dagger
#

POGGGGGG

#

POGPGOPGOGPGOGOGOGPGPOGPGPGP

tight axle
#

Like mangachu? Wasnt he a coach on a player contract?

solar bison
#

Jake

#

He’s back

sullen berry
#

This didn't seem like a long shot to see him return so soon

tropic herald
#

Wait

silk frost
#

NO

#

NONONO

#

SHUT UP

earnest leaf
#

lmao

silk frost
#

YOU SHUT THE UP FUCK

earnest leaf
#

Would mean avast leaves envy and what not

sullen berry
#

I think Jake has hit his peak casting now so that was exactly what would happen to ZP

tropic herald
#

And no more companion stream Sadge

earnest leaf
#

or a lot less at least

silk frost
#

5 dps, 2 tanks, 2 supports

sullen berry
#

Without a co-caster again for the 4th time

earnest leaf
#

so outlaws have 4 flex dps

raw ermine
#

time for sinatraa and Zacharee to sign to outlaws

earnest leaf
#

and one hitscan lol

sullen berry
#

Well at least he gels incredibly well with the community

raw ermine
#

US dps lineup

silk frost
#

the outlaws dps line is
Happy
KSF
Jake
Hydration
Danteh

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Happy is dedicated hitscan, KSF has some he can do, Danteh plays sombra and tracer, Jake plays legs, Hydration is solely projectile

#

this has put enough confidence in me to put houston above Atlanta

wanton birch
#

do you guys think houston is trying to win with its roster or trying to be popular

balmy wolf
#

not be bottom 5 thats for sure

#

they practically ran with the same roster for almost 3 years and achieved nothing

silk frost
#

if they are trying to win they are stoned

#

they just want to be competitive with your Torontos, your Bostons, and your Atlantas if they're good

raw ermine
#

the FNRGFE lineup

balmy wolf
#

the biggest change with outlaws is that they have a good coaching lineup

#

for once

raw ermine
#

junkbuck Harsha

#

nuts

trail perch
#

lowkey tho

#

isnt Jjangu Piggy going to be like fire

#

Talon Kinda hit diff

balmy wolf
#

its the best outlaws roster to date and its not even close

silk frost
#

ain't saying much

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s1 was muma and matt with bani and rawkus

#

s2 was the same thing but with danteh

raw ermine
#

jjangu piggy will be decent

silk frost
#

s3 was muma

raw ermine
#

support line will be meh

feral zodiac
#

Every roster now would probably beat the best of season 1

#

At that point

silk frost
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Crimzo is good tho

#

don't make me whip out my hot takes here

balmy wolf
#

the only s1 team that could easily beat future owl teams was NY

silk frost
#

London?

balmy wolf
#

their good, but their up and down in rankings

silk frost
#

Nus and Bdosin would be average but the rest of the roster is still clapping

balmy wolf
#

NY was the only consistent team in s1

silk frost
#

yeah but pine

balmy wolf
#

they knew the game better up until the playoffs

wanton birch
#

if birdring profit or gesture played well they would have a decent chance of beating the bottom 7 i think

balmy wolf
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old london died out in s2, other teams got fundamentally better while they stagnated

silk frost
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tbh they'd only be significantly worse than Shock, Dallas, Glads, Shanghai, Philly, Hangzhou, Guangzhou, and maybe toronto

balmy wolf
#

thats pretty shit for a roster that won s1

slow kraken
#

Haters will say this is a lie
Shanghai dragons were the best s1-2 team

balmy wolf
#

they should've been top 5 all year round

#

coaching didnt help either

worn falcon
#

2 tracer specialist now

#

lets go outlaws

#

still no one on widow/ashe

#

yet

silk frost
#

happy?

worn falcon
#

Although I'm returning as a rostered player, my real focus this season is going to be on coaching and helping the entire team be the best we can be.

#

benched

silk frost
#

that's jake?

worn falcon
#

yes

#

his twitlonger

silk frost
#

so how does that influence them having a widow/ashe player

#

when happy is a freak at both

worn falcon
#

wait, forgot happy was here

#

so danteh, hydration, happy, ksf and jake.

silk frost
#

plus ksf is an alright widow

worn falcon
#

and support is crimzo only

#

wtf

#

inb4 hydration becomes support now

#

joobi is underage, 4 april

#

enough time to the season

weak bolt
#

Honestly good move by Jake. Outlaws will respect him, Coolmatt as GM will listen to him, and Junkbuck as coach will teach him. Both him and Outlaws will gain a lot from him on roster, even if he doesn't play a single game

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Punk with the 500 IQ move

zinc portal
#

im crying right now

#

jake is back

raw ermine
#

📉 custa skill
📈 jake skill

weak bolt
raw ermine
#

lol I saw that

#

that was way to dryly posted for an OWL account

#

not even an emoji

weak bolt
#

Alot of #TexasHard in the comments too lol. Bring back that catchphrase

feral zodiac
#

Who was on s1 london

#

Birdring profit and who else

raw ermine
#

gesture

#

fury

#

nus

#

bdosin

#

closer

#

were the 7 who won

feral zodiac
#

So far most of those players haven't stagnated at all

#

Especially gesture birdring and fury

raw ermine
#

fissure, rascal, woohyal, tizi, and hagopeun were also on there

plush light
#

Jake, the junk specialist
||specialist is my nice way of saying one trick||
||completely joking, nothing against Jake||

silk frost
#

jake trash pepelaugh

tight hill
#

Oh shoot that came out of noware

#

Outlaws top 5 team Na?

balmy wolf
#

dallas, shock, glads, ... i forgot the rest

#

fla could be top 5

silk frost
#

fla could be bottom 2

#

top 5 are clearly shock, glads, dallas, justice, and boston

next mesa
#

BOTTOM 2

#

WHAT

feral zodiac
#

5th place might be pretty close fought

#

Depends how well the new lineups mesh

raw ermine
#

they aren't a good as last year tbh, the skill is similar but everyone else went up

inland flare
#

flordia is not going to be that good

#

oge is inconsistent

#

tbh

silk frost
#

the oge and slime issues

inland flare
#

idk about slime

#

why he was bench

#

??

silk frost
#

he is negatively a leadre

#

and is half the player without Bumper

inland flare
#

leadre?

silk frost
#

leader

#

listen man

next mesa
#

He's a lot worse now

#

Not because bumper

#

But

silk frost
#

no leader, middling main support, bad main tank

next mesa
#

Because tobi sucked all of his skills

inland flare
#

no

balmy wolf
#

seoul just got him for pr

#

nothing more

inland flare
#

thats a dumb/odd reason

balmy wolf
#

almost everyone from the titans got fucked by exploding mid season

#

cant expect much from them

inland flare
#

we cannot deny the fact oge is the weak link of this team

#

tbh

#

he was a bit of an issue of the glads

#

from what I've saw

balmy wolf
#

i wouldnt say it brings fla that hard down

inland flare
#

I mean mayhem got good ass coaches

#

not good enought to be their rival

#

valiant

#

LOL

#

KSP too OP

balmy wolf
#

both mid tier and lack in other areas well

#

like having a sub par OT and having a dps line that was only good at hitscan

inland flare
#

LA most likely going to be the best NA team

#

if kevster be on no ping

#

hes going to be insane

balmy wolf
#

i get the hype but the record isnt there from dpei

#

somehow always messes up, especially in playoffs

#

they were phillys punching bag in every touranment the entire year

inland flare
#

I just think this season was flewk

#

for them

#

end up being top 5 team s2

#

and be one of the inconsistent teams of s3

#

like nyxl

#

in the apac

balmy wolf
#

u mean never make past semi glads?

inland flare
#

wdym by that

next mesa
#

If dpei flops this year he's getting fired like 100%

#

4 years no results

inland flare
#

3*

balmy wolf
#

they never made it past semis or quarters in every playoffs

inland flare
#

but ok

#

@balmy wolf true

#

hes highly underrated as a coach

#

but not like the worst coaches

balmy wolf
#

of course buts hes never been at the top either

inland flare
#

he seems like the better head coaches

#

of the league

#

at least

balmy wolf
#

glads spent a shit ton on their roster and rarely are consider top 3

inland flare
#

I think he'd just led the team for only 2 tournaments wins during the season

#

but playofffs

#

idk

#

I mean, at least they werent bad

balmy wolf
#

this glads roster is pretty stack, season 4 imo will be championship or bust for them

inland flare
#

they always been at least a high mid tier team

#

but ik

#

it isnt good enough

next mesa
#

At least one tourney win

#

Idk about championship

inland flare
#

yeah

next mesa
#

Still have to go through a stacked apac

#

And shock

#
  • maybe fuel in a right meta u never know
inland flare
#

Hot take, Outlaws wont be bottom feeders

#

this season

#

Houston look like a 7-8th place team

#

I asked casores the Assist. coach of the shock

#

about the tank line

#

he said its solid

next mesa
#

In regions where there's defiant Boston and titans

#

Sometimes reign

#

Also fuel without decat