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just not as good?
wasn't there a huge bid on gaebullsi
in APAC it was like void bianca
wtf
GBS is probably signed
maybe lateyoing
Lateyoung zarya was poggers
but apac is still gonna be a shitshow, nyxl is a team of mostly unproven rookies, la valiant is gonna compete there for the first time
but idk
It could just be him trying to pump up his contract? Idk
I think GBS is signed or in the process of getting signed even if he is posting lft
apparently
I think players post LFTs despite being signed cus idk
valiant is gonna dump their whole roster
or worst case scenario a deal falls through and he just joins another team
sign diya innovation mmonk superich pog
Glad to know you work at valiant 👍
GBS’ lft was last month?
teams need to buyout players from contenders
yeah ur welcome
bejing valiant when
but the reason why
What
beijing banger
most of them are either new to owl or performed meh before right
teams need to buyout players from contenders but since wgs is disbanding after the gauntlet (rn), boston and Glads waited after so they can sign the players to cheaper contracts
Only one that didnt preform in T2 was Friday
because their talent was good
another one just got signed to t1 too
Because good players but they had bad coaches
aside from friday
Checkmate is insane
checkmate could start
Tho
I think Friday was bcus of Jjonak but idk
I dont consider rookies unproven as long as they performed to a high level in a strong contenders region. So like I would never call mag or gaga unproven because they were the best of insanely strong regions for so long, its just weird to act like they wont be able to compete. I would call friday unproven since he hasnt performed to a top level but besides that everyone is proven to be good in strong regions
You mean develop on Talon?
gwangboong yakpung feath5r are proven
^
low tier lol. hes not necessarily bad on his own but fs is stacked
and he cant compete off of like
moria

which doesnt matter
get fucked
Where do you rate crimzo levy
what
but dude these new contendies players are still new to owl so they're unproven in OWL
Crimzo vs Boombox
2 crimzo fanboys
but unproven in owl means nothing
that are like
You realize that the top contenders regions scrim owl several times a day?
he's top 10 fs
When has a player that's ever looked good in T2 looked bad in OWL
crimzo is bottom 3 in owl
and have similar resources and schedules to owl?
no I just think he's bad
who is
like the only thing that theyre new to is the name of the Overwatch League but in all other forms theyve been competing at that level for ages
Kaan
UV
Kaan
is best
kaan and uv
uv will be next year
I litterally
Kaan wasnt even playing thatbgame
L
also realistically speaking
im really hoping paris end up becoming mid tier instead of bottom like everyone is predicting
which meta are Glads better then fuel at?
@sand violet btw, rant is making a scrim team for server scrims
aside from tracer
But Kaan has Neptuno who is the worse Ms in 2021 so idk
anyways I have a big issue with ppl calling rookies "unproven" despite being top tier in KR and CN which are just as intense as OWL and constantly scrim with OWL anyways. Theyre used to the environment, the structure, the schedule, really the only thing they would have no experience with is LAN which is irrelevant rn
LOL
Even azura fucking came back to join it
Paris are getting fucked in scrims
that team is going to be so bad nai LOL
That's the point
do you think that lan play is going to make a big difference?
source?
is kevster gonna body or what
Paris worst team in scrims rn
Just trust me bro
its on a person to person thing. Some people play better on lan because no ping, they like the environment (like decay), etc. Some peopel are nervous and play worse. You cant just say one way or the other
ok but whats ur source tho
Rephid
bro ur like t4 SA 
lol
at least you aren't Oceania lol
i think i saw thta name but dont think hes here anymore
I would expect players like decay or striker to be even better on lan, but maybe some rookies would be worse
But like
how is that a source
but ppl like mag and gaga who have been 1st place for years, I find it hard to believe theyd just crack at lan
kr has done lans too I just dk how many or often
Paris went 0-6 with sheer cold in scrims 😭
I know most people don't take stuff off lan seriously, so I was curious
kr contenders used to have finals on lan
fielder playing bad since he isnt in 200 ping anymore
Lmfao shitter team
should paris have taken benbest instead
Gauntlet had finals on lan didnt it
The players wanted daan
2019 ye
No clue why
weirdchamp
what meta is Glads better then fuel
Zen mercy
exactlt
Because Benbest fell out with the management after they dropped Koreans
it's just tracer and ig ashe
bro give some sort of trustable source or proof
zen mercy what
Bap zen glads are better
I litterally just told you
fielder/rapel
Like a hard double shield if they get gbs glads better
who will play tracer on fuel
I'm in the pro sence of EU and have friends there
sparkle
Nobody
?
sp9
yea
Shu better then fielder
They just dont play Tracer
then post a screenshot or something of someone saying they suck
Moth is better then Jecse
Moth bap
Moth also better then jevse
Is good
Ah yeah lemme just post a screenshot of a Voice call of course
Houston titans
Moth bap good fym
How
Is it
Moth mechanics are overhated
Its legitimately so annoying to see lmfao
Hes easily a top 4 MS with Mechanics
but he's not the best
also for mechanics for ms
viol2t best bap
idk
dps bap
Because hes had no reason to play bap
could rapel start over fieder
Mechanics not as important lol
Probably not
The thing is moth isnt going to be that good on glads
not moth
what
Wheres ur logic for that
Bc they need a more playmaking player
?????????
No they dont
They already have playmakers
they have kevster bruh
They have Birdring Kevster
Bird and kev are playmakers
?????
nvm I'm out
They dont need a passive MS
MuZe is insane wtf are you smoking
birdring kevster muze arent playmakers?
They need someone to play up w them
?
moth
someone like mandu?
can do that
what
Muze is a very supportive MT
hes not an ai
hes the most adaptable and versatile ms in the world
Moth was a big playmaker for the shock
Someone like Mandu or LJG would fit the team better
No
Moth came up clutch for shock so many times
They wouldnt
engage the feed drive mr ljg
Moth is litterally the smartest player in pro OW
LJG was insane all season
LJG turbo fed a lot
And moth boops two to clutch
lgj was only consistently top tier on brig
ljg turbo fed and got punished for it by shock
And his 3 man which won next fight vs Toronto
Played like a brainlet didnt get punished because bottom of Apac was shit
I guess only time will tell
s4 is gonna roll around and the tierlists are just gonna be flipped
paris and london end up dominating
would be funny, but no
I wish
Let us pray
Houston gonna be trash like always
sh
maybe mid
17th imo
not with the minecraft pvp god
Next year
danteh
I can see them maybe doing well if the roster has potential and they let it grow
hunger games god
wdym hunger games
danteh joke
i know he played uhc
jokes
Its insane
yeah, but it might shift a bit
Philly would be pog in this meta
they already tweaked ball sig
piggy zar
owl will start with a way different meta for sure
danteh on tracer or echo
Poko Zarya sig 
I disagree with the idea that moth is a passive ms. When shock are on brawl theyre one of the most aggro teams the league has seen. He is just able to play reserved and sets up his team rather than having his team set him up, but he can absolutely play with the aggro
Ball Zarya is Viable
what with, then
And if ur good enough on those heros you can 100% make it work
double bubble big aswell
Echo Tracer Mercy Zen
how are you protecting zen that way?
dont ask me why or how, I still think sig is better LMAO
yeah, wouldn't you want sig with zen?
sigma functions with the strength of one million heroes
remove that stupidass hero
i want to play monkey
watch blizz rebuff sig
monkey probably the worst rn
why would supports need to be nerfed
brig
game winning cds
rein is worse than monkey
just delete her
massive ultimates
xd
zen is probably more of a problem than her rn
Brig is useless sadly
nah bruh
I miss old brig
what rank r u lol
bap immort is so good for that
so the frontline and dps dont need to peel
and everything else
and put out dmg
imagine bap brig at their heights rn
if the best version of them were currently in this meta
That would be fun
lucio needs to be good
but man it was so good when the top teams did it
Shock vs Titans stage 1 finals
Period
Inject it into my veins
in what way?
no dps for 1 yeare
Bc dps mains got salty
Oh no the worst group of ow players stop playing
dps mains
Thats awful
Well would you not get salty if your role was dog shut for a year
wtf
The community is better without DPS players
Based
🗿
HE'S AT LEAST SIGNED TO A TEAM
more people should have played things other than dps
(Diya)
them leaving was good
play something else for god's sake
no it wasnt
Also dps instalock onetricks
bro
play fucking tank or support once in a while
we needed 222
for it to go
222 is decent, I think, but the abundance of dps is annoying
game needs dps to suceed
2-2-2 was so good for the game
are you trolling man
Yours sincerely
-A dps main
stop
And realize that the game was better before 2-2-2
2 2 2 is shit
it was better
Even viewership was up
no
but nmot without dps
4 players instalock dps ok
cause of s1
yeah, comp was hell for bottom tier without 222
when I was in gold, 5 dps instantly
they all left during goats
I mean I was masters during that time, and 2-2-2 ruined it
had to be the one support usually
I still get games off my sr by multiple hundreds both ways when queueing because no one plays tank
we need poke to go
u played orisa
poke tanks are boring
and i say that as a sig main
my ball is literally gold lmao
but insane if you master him
yeah, there is a reason he is meta
he probably could use less shields still
he would still survive pretty well due to mobility
too much cc and survivability i think
yes, said "still"
oh
he just rolls through your team
honestly I think
they should revert the shields
and make it so that shields give you ult charge
without punishment
yeah you need some sort of punishment
that would make him as bad as hog
well, hog is decentish now
that would make him as bad as hog was forever
but he needs more nerfs I think, somehow
or other tanks need buffs somehow
rein needs some sort of mobility that doesn't guarantee he dies
or a get off tool
zarya is probably fine if other tanks are buffed
etc., etc.
or maybe dps needs to decrease
yes theres powercreep
stop stomping on my heart

shut up sbb isn't gonna end up like jhong
did we think jhong was gonna be like jhong?
apply logic here
obviously, all the greatest players are going to plummet to new lows now
not all of them
Morons
u
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u
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Daily reminder that if chengdu had gotten lige and super rich they wouldve been a top 5 team
why the fuck would a chinese team pick up super
superrich
superrich
the ms
i know super is rich
lmao
who?
... the Chinese ms on team CC?
Chengdu got some of the best talent from the best contenders team but they didn't get lige and superrich and that's rly the only things holding them back
that and not being shanghai
chengdu still bottom
Honestly if chengdu got lige and superrich I could see them above shanghai
I bet Chengdu got outbid or something by Hangzhou
As long as Rui stays
Oh for sure
Bc spark
Has fuck you money
They're giga rich
BiliBili is insane money
I desire fuck you money
They for sure got outbid it wasn't like they didn't want lige he's hands down the best chinese ot
if chinese teams wanted to they could probably just buy shock
every team except for the chinese has money issues of some sort
Wasn’t their rumors of Shanghai nearly nabbing Viol2t
We could've seen a chinese super team if chengdu got lige and superrich, sadge
Yeah there were early rumors
cant wait for valiant to become a chinese org
Chengdu is the only org without korean lmao
London
damn
isn't khaleesi known for being like a lying bitch no offense
@next mesa if it's true, because mouffin just being a horny guy wouldn't matter
Could be fake though but if true.. that's a lot of people who basically hounded a guy for a crime he didn't commit
Apparently from the sounds of it, that may not be true
Change adult to.. bring extremely cringe and simpush
Er simpish
Yeah but also just very unfortunate
Because if true, less people will care about it
His carrier basically would be ruined over a jealous ex
But.. could be fake
pretty sure shes a liar and sensitive af
she bans ppl for clipping funny / embarassing moments on twitch and posting them on noobhunter and shit
there was also a clip not too long ago where she literally ran into minefields on purpose right after respawning, causing the enemy to snowball the team and win the round
some guy said 'what the fuck' in voice chat and she called him sexist
wait lemme see if i can find them
@AquamarineOW @DanzoTM @Buzz_OW She’s so quirky ☺️ https://t.co/fLrUFhwNXl
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then theres this
omg she likes to throw games 😂 that's so funny
the forgotten spitfire main tank
Jihun? thought he retired
Jihun did retire but appears they are back
It's ball time
all this means is that rio is washed and is a horse otp now
Feel like they could have signed pokpo or something
If its to give him competition or if he is outright better, we'll notice it this weekend vs Shanghai
Rio is good
just solid
not pop off but solid
never gonna over or under preform
but how tf is it that JIHUN is the one to make it back and not FUZE, SANGUINAR, OR BABEL
well
fuze is horrible
sanguinar was probably considering not taking any offers
until recently
babel should probably be in owl
Fuze was okay I thought
Babel I can see in contenders
Sanguinar is on O2 Blast
With although
After they lost chilhwa they went downhill pretty quick
Yeah Yakpung was never enough
And his return back to overwatch I'm not optimistic that he'll make a splash, I hope he is more consistent
that isn't a bad pickup for gz since their current main tank has a few holes so having a backup for certain heroes is always nice
even if that main tank is uhh
jihun
rip if the pedo part was never true he could have pulled a kephrii and just sort of moved on from a sexual scandal
but too late now oh well
mouffin kind of weirdchamp anyway
today was a day that halo didn't need to leak ahead of time
halo wanted to surprise us
Bad pickup
It’s
sex
big dick
yeha
Shit i did it wrong
how could you
sleepy girl?? 👀
Atleast sleepy is good at the game
probs got forced off mercy and that happened

thats why u give a one trick their hero
sleepy is wasted potential
hes good but throws too much
i think he's happy about it
just such good mechanics on someone who doesn't even care
sleepy fucking made owl before harblue
streaming is just more profitable
and because he's not that interesting he has to do weird shit for views
What main tanks is rio bad at?
Ball i think
oh
Based
hello
Rio isnt bad at anyone
Except maybe monkey
But monkey is bad so thats okay, they'll just play ball
The meta will probably be very different by the time the league starts
Acc nvm this is blizzard we’re talking about
We’ll probably have this for another year
until gf when they make bastion invincible and remove shields or some shit
jihun was actually kinda leaked last night
i saw him on liquipedia so i already knew this was coming
it was posted 12 hours ago
u couldve saw it on liquipedia last night is what i meant
it is crowdsourced by different folks
there's very few insiders liquipedia has since you have to put a bit of effort to know how to edit a wiki page
most are very efficient when they hit the F5
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Everything about that video is perfect
Who is your favorite player to have ever played in overwatch esports?
Owl or contenders or pre-owl.
Mine is peak pine or maybe sayaplayer
Alarm or Pine
I also really like kariv
Pine was a blast to watch on a good day
Remember main tank alarm when he played with carpe bernar bunny and twilight
On bk stars
Ah yeah
Super encountered JMAC on the ranked ladder and took the Rein duel. Striker, ANS and Krillin were also there
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this is why jmac retired guys
Wonder if it's a coach or something
GaeBullSsi?
GBS would make zero sense
ml7

true
speculation due to avast comment
personally I thought they were done with signings
they could use a few more tanks and supports if you ask me
Definitely more supports
They are in need of a main supp
ditch the crimzo
so is roar, technically
???
roar is better than 99% of the overwatch player base
Are you trying to compare roar to crimzo?
gasp
Did roar?
crimzo was mediocre at best
Eh, I think he was one of the brighter spots on dallas
better the gaebullsi
he says he'll be slightly more of a coach
but is still a player
i hope he onetricks junk
junkrat specialist omegalul
@Outlaws @jakeow So are you guys unretiring the jersey number too or does he have to ruin a new one
its official boys
thats the real philly account
Houston just went from bottom 6 to #1
Yeah. He's actually good at tracer
He’s one of the best flex ngl
so now there are 5 dps on houston
jake said he was going heavy on coaching, so i'd imagine he'll be a sub player
Yh
is he a player or a coach?
What
coach emphasis, but as a backup player
I think he’s a player given everything I’ve read
in his post he says hell be on a player contract but will also be acting as a coach
Like mangachu? Wasnt he a coach on a player contract?
This didn't seem like a long shot to see him return so soon
Wait
lmao
YOU SHUT THE UP FUCK
Would mean avast leaves envy and what not
I think Jake has hit his peak casting now so that was exactly what would happen to ZP
And no more companion stream 
or a lot less at least
5 dps, 2 tanks, 2 supports
Without a co-caster again for the 4th time
so outlaws have 4 flex dps
time for sinatraa and Zacharee to sign to outlaws
and one hitscan lol
Well at least he gels incredibly well with the community
US dps lineup
the outlaws dps line is
Happy
KSF
Jake
Hydration
Danteh
Happy is dedicated hitscan, KSF has some he can do, Danteh plays sombra and tracer, Jake plays legs, Hydration is solely projectile
this has put enough confidence in me to put houston above Atlanta
do you guys think houston is trying to win with its roster or trying to be popular
not be bottom 5 thats for sure
they practically ran with the same roster for almost 3 years and achieved nothing
if they are trying to win they are stoned
they just want to be competitive with your Torontos, your Bostons, and your Atlantas if they're good
the FNRGFE lineup
its the best outlaws roster to date and its not even close
ain't saying much
s1 was muma and matt with bani and rawkus
s2 was the same thing but with danteh
jjangu piggy will be decent
s3 was muma
support line will be meh
the only s1 team that could easily beat future owl teams was NY
London?
their good, but their up and down in rankings
Nus and Bdosin would be average but the rest of the roster is still clapping
NY was the only consistent team in s1
yeah but pine
they knew the game better up until the playoffs
if birdring profit or gesture played well they would have a decent chance of beating the bottom 7 i think
old london died out in s2, other teams got fundamentally better while they stagnated
tbh they'd only be significantly worse than Shock, Dallas, Glads, Shanghai, Philly, Hangzhou, Guangzhou, and maybe toronto
thats pretty shit for a roster that won s1
Haters will say this is a lie
Shanghai dragons were the best s1-2 team
happy?
Although I'm returning as a rostered player, my real focus this season is going to be on coaching and helping the entire team be the best we can be.
benched
that's jake?
so how does that influence them having a widow/ashe player
when happy is a freak at both
plus ksf is an alright widow
and support is crimzo only
wtf
inb4 hydration becomes support now
joobi is underage, 4 april
enough time to the season
Honestly good move by Jake. Outlaws will respect him, Coolmatt as GM will listen to him, and Junkbuck as coach will teach him. Both him and Outlaws will gain a lot from him on roster, even if he doesn't play a single game
So with talent coming back, when can we announce @Custa as our main sup? 👀 @BostonUprising
Punk with the 500 IQ move
📉 custa skill
📈 jake skill
@Outlaws @jakeow So are you guys unretiring the jersey number too or does he have to ruin a new one
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Alot of #TexasHard in the comments too lol. Bring back that catchphrase
So far most of those players haven't stagnated at all
Especially gesture birdring and fury
fissure, rascal, woohyal, tizi, and hagopeun were also on there
Jake, the junk specialist
||specialist is my nice way of saying one trick||
||completely joking, nothing against Jake||
jake trash pepelaugh
they aren't a good as last year tbh, the skill is similar but everyone else went up
the oge and slime issues
leadre?
no leader, middling main support, bad main tank
Because tobi sucked all of his skills
no
thats a dumb/odd reason
almost everyone from the titans got fucked by exploding mid season
cant expect much from them
we cannot deny the fact oge is the weak link of this team
tbh
he was a bit of an issue of the glads
from what I've saw
i wouldnt say it brings fla that hard down
I mean mayhem got good ass coaches
not good enought to be their rival
valiant
LOL
KSP too OP
both mid tier and lack in other areas well
like having a sub par OT and having a dps line that was only good at hitscan
LA most likely going to be the best NA team
if kevster be on no ping
hes going to be insane
i get the hype but the record isnt there from dpei
somehow always messes up, especially in playoffs
they were phillys punching bag in every touranment the entire year
I just think this season was flewk
for them
end up being top 5 team s2
and be one of the inconsistent teams of s3
like nyxl
in the apac
u mean never make past semi glads?
wdym by that
3*
they never made it past semis or quarters in every playoffs
but ok
@balmy wolf true
hes highly underrated as a coach
but not like the worst coaches
of course buts hes never been at the top either
glads spent a shit ton on their roster and rarely are consider top 3
I think he'd just led the team for only 2 tournaments wins during the season
but playofffs
idk
I mean, at least they werent bad
this glads roster is pretty stack, season 4 imo will be championship or bust for them
yeah
Still have to go through a stacked apac
And shock
- maybe fuel in a right meta u never know

