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Bitch back off my line
SBB is a really good example
he's confident but not cocky
he's loving but not a pushover
he's a dad and not a bitch
hawk channeling his inner bumper

He had abandoned on his team, so he probably tilted and turbo inted because of it
he's just being a creative gamer
Nah, hawk was already tilting games earlier

Went back and looked at the owl season 1 news
So manny internal issues
So manny suspensions
So manny dumpster fires
I forgot how crazy that season was
Still fun as hell though
dallas fuel be like
dallas was one of the bottom 6 orgs that year
the top 8 at least had some grasp of what they were doing throughout the season, even if the teams back then included Boston Uprising, Seoul dynasty and peak LA teams/Fusion/Spitfire during playoffs
things do not look good if you've been drinking recently and your name is Ryujehong
https://twitter.com/whodoijohnburr/status/1350861354077450244?s=21
@GenG_KR @arnoldwh Is this really the type of behavior GenG tolerates? I will translate what he said on his stream, might not deliver what the meaning conveys 100% but you can still see how misogynist or outright sexist he is.
#ryujehong https://t.co/hAP716HEzh
unacceptable
Ok?
Hm
Sound the horns! šÆ
We're running it back with @OWTtuBa in #OWL2021
#JusticeIsServed https://t.co/EYHzzKvXNh
shittttt
Ttuba, u better pop the fuck off
like
REALLY pop the fuck off
no libero or rascal? you better be fuckin worth it brudda
Just putting this out there scrimbux is highly unstable
I mean s2 everyone was saying that London was insane at goas
GOATS
and they where hot garbage
I thought it was trialbux now
the xepher scrimbux was the most funny one
The only scrimbux I remember that was real was valiant before this year
we didnt get that much scrimbux last year iirc
Everyone had valiant so low but then they came out and beat the shock
they werent going to be last place thats for sure
but somehow boston was still worse than everyone else again
What is scrimbux
didnt super say that dallas will be really fuckin good last year
or smt
like they were slapping in scrims
Scrimbux are a currency you invest in
they're gained through rumors of teams being good in scrims
and if they pay off, you can look like a cool person to a bunch of internet people
F's in the chat for meko, jjanu, boombox, libero? And rascal
And the other 20 talented free agents that I'm missing
Also benbest
Which is so weird to me because I'm pretty sure he was the frenchie with the most playtime not counting fdgod
diya
Titans couldāve picked up aimgod if they were willing to get korean talent such as teru
Mightāve given them some hope for not being the bottom team in the league since roolf is imo the worst fs in the league
Plus he wouldāve been cheap enough since I assume no other team would be looking to pick him up
you're saying that as if aimgod would've wanted to go to titans in the 1st place
Either join titans or go unemployed
Potentially joining contenders would be a better option honestly but this is talking if he wanted to stay in owl
welp considering he got dropped late his options are slim since everyone was trialing really early on
and most teams are already scrimming, his window of opportunity was small when got dropped
Yeah but Iām just saying
i bet a lot of koreans would rather go back to contendies than join titans
if they got into a big team like o2blast/runaway/em or something
although em is poor now
Titans chances of not placing dead last would be better if they took a chance on aimgod without trials rather than continuing with roolf
Tell me Iām wrong
titans are on budget mode as well
roofl is cheap on a contract
i imagine the same for teru
Doubt that aimgod would be demanding a lot of cash
theres a contract buyout as well
Didnāt his contract with the justice expire?
oh
titans should sign !
I mean
That would bring them from dead last
To championship favourites/lock
So yes
Facts
Only updates here are an increase in houston stonks and guangzhou stonks
I think the loss of tobi hurts them and I think changgoon is worse than every other APAC coach
Anamo isn't a suitable replacement for our god king tobi
absolutely
I'm moreso worried about changgoon than anamo tho
I think Anamo has the skill to be a good player with a good coach
too bad he doesn't have that
its literally the same exact coaching staff minus hocury and wizardhyeong
granted hocury wasn't a coach but it stands
same staff minus those 2
Facts idk why they lost wizardhyeong
and hyeong might be the only coach they had that I had faith in
Honestly though
Jmac best coach
you mean Seoul
Yeah
who is their ball
marve1 nvm he's actually fine
Boston are fairly high
I mean the contenders players coming up are way better at ball
I was waiting for someone to mention the boston thing lol
gaga, daan, and hadi
and muze
idk about mag, takoyaki, and yakpung though
I remember yakpung had a... fine enough ball in OWL
not good but
fine
Muze looked good in valiant ball
Def not flopping this year with that team around him LOL
Man
Here they come
Okay why is valiant above seoul
give it to me empathy
Yessir
Shock did lose ans
DON'T DO THIS
valiant is above seoul and NYXL because of packing
Iām gonna be sitting real good when Paris beats everyoneās expectations
The crust 
I mean sure paris will be good but like
THAT high?!
compared to toronto who are so well rounded this year
I could see them above outlaws
Toronto to be that good?
I think they could actually be above mayhem
Mayhem is going to be disappointing this year
I think I'm gonna put mayhem below paris now actually yeah
Are you sureeeee
OGE and Slime are overrated
@tropic herald there is a lot to love, but I'm grasping for some proven spitfire wins with blasƩ on an EU roster
Slime without daddy bumper and oge has never preformed
plus mayhem has no leadership in their players
Charge that low too
also Paris will play at 120 ping and so will the enemy
Though I'm not going to lie, nobody here can tell how significant OWL players on delayed ping is going to do to teams you would think are at a disadvantage
Hereās my thoughts: China stocks on the rise, Jmac is big, ANS leaving will be a bigger blow than most think
Spark are almost like vancouver last year
I will contribute 15% of shock's success to exclusively ans
It'll be difficultt for glister to fill the void
Spark on paper look excellent, full roster that's bound to be reduced to its best parts come end of season
best aimer in overwatch history, we'll hever have another one
Iām pretty sure Takoyaki is taking Guxues spot
So then we have Takoyaki Bernar for Hangzhou which kinda slaps
I'd say architect puts about the same amount of impact when he was on shock with rascal
dude ans was a fucking freak
He definitely carried his weight during countdown cup... But thats about it
I'm excited to see if hanzhou flop or not
and excited to see which half of the justice take control
Lets be realistic, Bernar is starting
Plz send him with his buddy diya superich and innovation to new valiant team
I don't know
I think lige is better
Lige is a freak yeah
If you're gonna sign like
5 chinese players but not use any
Smh
Send them to new valiant team plz
They have Mcd
MCD and Coldest
I think shock will feel the impact of losing ans early off if the meta is a lot of widow
š
But I think if Glister is given a hit of Crusty's crackpipe he'll do well
But ans was one in a million, so i'm not 100% if glister can replace and match him
Exactly
Ta1yo might
Fix the crosshair
If only valiant got bought like a month earlier
Sign the whole team cc
Now the dream is dead
Lowkey think glister will be better
bc hes just more flexable
and in terms of raw abillity, with the amount of space the shock makes for the hitscan
He can def be better
tbf ans was showing some flexibility near the end of the season
But ans was definitely clearly better at widow/ashe compared to his other heroes
ans was argubably a perfect pickup since double hs was so strong last year
the only other strong hitscan in the s3 shock lineup was architect
Striker has a pretty good ashe/cree, but his widow I don't think is up to par with other widows in the league
But ans had a widow/ashe that just carried shock
its wasnt widow that matter, its the fact that striker was able to stay on tracer because of ans
pretty much yea
rascal doesnt have a tracer and architect left the team
but if ans wasnt there then i suspect architect would pick more hitscan while striker stayed on tracer
now that glister is in, its more like the glads dps lineup
Glads has birdring though
where bird and kev dont need to be switch out since they play almost everything
I see
i'd say the new shock dps line is stronger than s3 one
lots of good overlap now for subs and specialization
Shock dps kinda fell apart during season 3
Striker is the only shock dps remaining from the starting dps in S3
which is weird to think
striker too good
u could plug in glister or nero with striker and just leave it there
if striker aint playing widow then glister can
if the meta stays how it is, we'll probably see nero/striker a lot
Tracer echo?
yea
echo + hitscan
thats the current dps meta
idk whats tay1o purpose is, but hes a good sub to have
i think striker got injuries before which forces ans to play early on
no one can live up to ans
lmao if diem waited like another month
but honestly there must've had a reason why he's back
dragons should let him completely take over ashe and widow
let lip grind hitscans that come out
i really miss OWL :/
And 100 other spectacular dad jokes
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genji irrelevant, so makes sense
Translation: Let me tell you for sure, yes I'm retiring. I'm gonna stop playing overwatch.
I can't for the life of me understand why they won't at least make SOME changes to genji in an experimental patch or something
LCS is okay ig
how the hell did val end up in apac
i like how in the 2020 grand finals seol trashed talked the shock but got fucking rolled
by them
Hello
Did they?
Everyone trash talked lol
Shock called them house cats did they not

And they finished what like 2-4 or some shit right they weren't rolled
Shock was a bit lighter on trash talk compared to seoul and shd
I want more trashtalk though
Philly's trash talking didn't age well š
With every team trash talking of course at least one of them isnāt gonna age well
Well atleast they could of made it close š¦
Whoru and bdosin retired? Damn
the Shanghai trash talk was kinda yikes
Everyone gangsta till libero stays unsigned
Dudes words cannot describe how much of a tragedy that would be
bad day to be that one guy who praised zykk
independentfeeling22
also remember 18-1-2020
when so many people decided to retire
cursed
Ah shit bdosin supposedly retired as well
Nw xzi is memeing about retiring
Tbh idk how kaiser hasn't retired yet
its so odd to me
how kaiser has never made owl
isn't he a og
who's been in the overwatch competitive scene for like forever
So it would seem bdosin is retiring cause he thinks he is too old
yikesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
xqc is ass
or seegul
sbb
it's sbb
stfu sbb best
whoever it is, its not XQC or seagull
went into streaming
ryujehong does not have a goat case anymore
probably inspired by the dumpster fire dallas fuel
this is why we stan sbb
good teammate
still has it in him to be a top player
RESPECTS women
lmaoo
and he farted on marve1
cant get into drama if all you do is retweet cute animal on twitter
My favorite player right now is checkmate on mayhem. He's super flexible and a great 7th man for the mayhem.
Seominsoo 
The goat of owl is pine. Idk what you guys even arguing about.
stfu fuckitseominsoo
Pine inspired me to throw countless games on widow with one play

The junkertown clip vs London in stage one playoffs
Idk who the actual goat is š„ŗ
i wanna know just how many games were ruined by widowmaker players after that clip lmao
Nobody has faith in closer š they forget he won a championship 3 years ago 
Me thinks sideshow is the goat of owl, if not pine.
7th man in s1
how much playtime did he get
He was the only bench boi that didn't get dropped before playoffs

He got a decent amount, not as much as nus
I have mediocre expectations for bebe and closer
dont you dare disrespect mickie
In s1 oge was suspended 4 matches for boosting and sado was suspended for 30, how many accounts did sado boost lmao
Pongphop Rattanasangchod more like PogChamp
Koreans freaking HATE account boosting
but people not in korea don't care that much
sometimes
he was still owl you wiener
yeah sado is nuts
i wanna see a owl main tank widow tournament
mickie return to owl when
MICKIE RETURN TO OWL WHEN
I forgot how many players have been banned for account boosting lmao
Suspended I mean
This article is a list of players banned from various notable establishments, e.g. leagues, anti-cheat systems and Overwatch events.
Fat ass list

its funny to see the random things that OWL players did
dallas main-tankless for a while
also jesus christ china calm down
throwing in comp right
what it do babyy
lets grow dude
I wanna find out how this happened
did they just give up?
"bro swap mercy you can't solo heal lucio"
"nah bro fck mercy"
"WE NEED A MERCY. YOUR LUCIO IS TRASH"
"SO IS YOUR WINSTON"
so on and so forth
the plot of the "no mercy" song probably
I am confused, apr1ta is literally on team chaser now 
got a link of that game?
can u read
nobody cared to change the liquipedia page

Mobile liquidpedia doesn't fit the full screen or allow side scrolling for me ok 
We need more bans smh this list is too old
has a owl player ever murdered anyone
doubt it
The only s3 fines were lastro rascal and fissure 
Really cut those numbers down from s2
because getting a fine during online play might be a bit harder
less interviews
unless you're a absolute fucking brainlet like lastro
Loll
did lastro ever say why he did that
we need to get some sort of interview going
why did my man just throw away money
to say sex big dick
I mean after Linkzr won the widow 1v1 he said fuck and shit in his interview loll
So I assume he got fined
The teammates made it funnier, super radiating disappointment and ksf spamming question marks 
big brain plays
??????
LhCloudy widow must be so bad. The man uses 1600 cpi at 16 in game.
LhCloudy trickshots on widow like he's in FaZe
his arm slips and he does a 1080
god sens
Cloudy must use 1 zoom sens
I'm gonna try that today in qp, 1600 dpi at 16 sens with one scoped on widow.
I'm using 1600 at 2.5 with 37.89 zoom right now, so it gonna suck
I use 16 2.35 37.89 
Mine is the outdated ta1yo nightbot sens I believe or something like that
I know I got it from someone I just don't remember who now
I wonder if Diya still uses 3200 dpi or if that's old
I know there's a bit of super high sense hitscan elitists who swear by it but I could never
frogger best lucio change my mind
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Scuffedsal
would you rather go deaf or listen to korean owl comms for 24 hours
Hmm
Probably go deaf honestly
I like the one guy speaking English and then korean shouting continues loll
i cant judge too much cause ive also got a shitty accent
Fair enough, I like the strat of repeating yourself 40 times though, really enhances gameplay 
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When I watched this, I laughed harder than I ever have or will in my life
That's a ć ć strat
Ryujehong is washed
he's still decent
like maybe a starter on some mid teams
but like after this good luck finding a team dude
what did he say particularly I just saw sexist and he said a woman was a bitch or something
and I am confused because translations and I haven't been on twitter like at all
drink shit on stream
sexist stuff
instead of a proper apology
and like saying he'll change
he just said ''i would like you guys to understand that i'm now a streamer and not a player''
''the atmosphere as a player and streamer are very different''
I mean I kind of get that look at xqc lol
but not apologizing is kind of a career suicide move
which I don't understand considering he is a grown ass man
and not like 20
yeah lol
but he almost instantly regretted it
jhong had some time to think about it and his final statement is this
yeah I think a lot of people get hyped up and say shit and regret but with jehong it sounds like he was just drunk and dumb loll
it's just dumb
jhong stops being a player
and thinks its okay to just do a full 180 in personality
I mean considering he is a streamer for an actual org he should probably get his shit together lmao
it would be like if dafran came on stream drunk and started bitching about women lmao
would not be a good thing
i could kinda understand if he changed slowly over the course of like a year
yeah exactly
i was always kinda worried like
why is jhong drunk so much on stream
I think the reason this matters in general is because he is like older so instead of looking like someone being young and stupid it looks like a sadge man who is self-destructing loll
he could have retired from owl as one of the most well respected and well liked players
but now he'll just be known as the guy who had a good owl carreer
then destroyed it all by being a drunk
tbh wouldnt be suprised if gen g drops him
like one of the reasons they signed him is probably the fanbase
that's not really a thing anymore
I think he only started to drink heavy after the Titans fiasco
idk I would hate to just like drop him like that because he did one fuck up and clearly needs help or to stop streaming on substances but I hope in like a day or so he wakes up and realizes he should like
not double down
People hate for no reason, only to hate
thinking they
are saints
I think ow deprived them of their lives
too much social media for them

Yeah, just move on. In the end, he will move on from what happened, he's nearly 30,so he will settle with a woman and get a family
What do you guys think the random huge change in meta before playoffs will be?
sigma will be hard nerfed right before finals and all the off tanks will have to adjust to dive in like a week calling it now !
a full year in advance with no knowledge of new heroes
I have called my prediction!
ok wow i just read jehong apology hahah its so bad
is there any chance ow2 this owl season
Ow2 should come out this season
I donāt think it will
Itāll have to come out after the season ends tbh
If it is released but they donāt play on it then you have pros playing almost a completely different game on ladder then in OWL matches
Actually
OW1 gets the engine update does it not?
Zarya will be given 2 projected bubbles and she'll be the meta off tank
its not even an apology
unacceptable
and alcohol is not an excuse
it doesnt turn you into a misogynistic little CUNT
Wtf does misogynistic mean
Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. It enforces sexism by punishing those who reject an inferior status for women and rewarding those who accept it
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lunatic hai dying
whoru and tobi were the last men standing
whoru is gone
and i doubt tobi is getting signed
Tobi on mayhem would actually be pretty clean
no
petition to make a company pay 50k minimum for someone they probably don't need
Yes
petition to not sign hotba
that I can get behind
literally the worst ot free agent atm lowkey lmao
ex owl that is
jj retired
Hotba was good on dva
Petition to sign jehong
pretty sure people are pissed at him rn
rip levy
sorry to see your idol has betrayed you
Top 10 anime betrayals
I am devastated
Who would sign Diya
according to halo
yes
who is often wrong
cursed image
I trust halo with my life I live my life on the edge
not this season
he was on point like
90% of the time
AND
he double downed
yeah what preds did halo even get wrong?
but like no major ones
I remember like 3 where the player is like
oh thats true
but that could also have been reported too early
that la glads bought him last moment
yeah so not really wrong but just too quick
like nero to outlaws
prediction speedrun just how like jhong speedran his carreer
yeah
wait
true
like an anonymous team
was like interfering with nero and outlaws
turns out to be shock
so
he was technically right there
i felt pain at that moment
so still just too fast but still accurate
also not only is halo hinting at la china
but like
alot of other sources too
so it's happening
nah, the la thing is bullshit
why else would they go to apac though
trust me, my anonymous sources say so
like if they were still in NA
I wouldn't believe it tbh
but like they move to apac when they have like 1 korean player?
c'mon, don't believe my sources?
valiant is going to rebrand to a chinese team, drunk jhong told me
the bejing destroying all of adam's hard work who worked hard to get to owl just to get dumped because chinese team
the Putian Poggers
Harbin hangovers
schedule is out and HOLY the first match is š„
WE GOT SHANGHAI VS DALLAS AS THE OPENER
catch fearless face off against his former team in a ft3 on 23 jan at 6pm china time
followed by seoul vs guangzhou at 8 https://t.co/8YinvOMHpy
opener shd vs dallas
peru pogchamps
fearless vs old teammates
they're for sure getting fucked
levy are you est?
Itāll be interesting to see who Dallas put on tracer duty
Levy is having a bad day
trust sbb
somehow beat dragons in map 5/take dragons to map 5
pog its on a saturday at 11 am for me
fuck
get fucked americans
Because fits succ
fits overrated wdym
Hes good at doom and sombra, but not tracer and mccree
watch fits pull a nenne
Who can succ more - nenne vs hotba
bruh
he easily matched ans and diem on finals
If fits plays like how he played in playoffs he has the potential to be the best widow in OWL
Iād go as far to say he dominated and but thatās just me
yes
*ans
It's this week
dont worry, seoul is gonna have some actual dps with sbb on the line up
Team CC also playing?
If fits is bad, just have profit play two heros at once on two computers.
also is there any news on english casters
Donāt think so
Levy how do you not have regular permissions?
Dogman might do a companion stream though
my man got robbed of it
then on 30 jan we'll have guangzhou vs shanghai, then seoul vs dallas
finally the top 2 teams face off in the finals on 31 jan at 8pm (idk what the format is maybe ft4 who knows)```
seoul vs dallas
What a great apology š³
tl:dr bad excuse, still a piece of shit
he didnāt even apologize
shd is playing so many games
just a whole nothing burger
āSorry that youāre offended now fuck offā
it's their thing right
he just told haters to fuck off and he told people to get used to it lmao
negotiation 100
he
he
is not wrong. haters can indeed fuck off
???
what was this? https://twitter.com/xzi_ow/status/1350955910747860994
hating someone for being misogynistic is ok
lol
lmfao
dont defend jhong lmaooo
I am not? But move on
man is telling people to fuck off despite him being a pos š he didnāt apologize for shit
sad way to go
deserved hate
mans is too shit to join owl and he decides to just become a pos
well alright, but no need to remind him his whole life of what he did. just move on
then don't do shit that make people hate you
i would care less if he made an actual apology
I thought I read that "fucking" wasn't present in the apology in korean
zz
anyway, i hope xzi can be there
haven't seen him since soon replaced him
still a bad apology though
Time to see some good Overwatch. Now hoping that I can see Justice soon
@worn falcon I think his account was hacked or smt
bruh
Why would someone hack xzi?
for shits and giggles
I was gonna say that lol
when does the tournament happen?
saturday china time
ok the jehong stuff is wayy to long to read, is what he said really that bad that he should be cancelled or is it the fact his apology basically was lol im sorry u think that
I mean is it cancelling if they did something wrong 
pretty much just a combination of saying bad shit
and just the shit apolagy
how the FUCK does my man have 2k hero damage and 1 elim after what looks like 5 mins of playing
One of those games
also we can't base that stuff off of comp games really
because maybe he ultrafed that game
but this game he rolled as ball
u are the joke
<3
peep the soldier falling off the map tho
also aspen finnsi duo too powerful 
also Jake on Torb 
Is aspen LFT?
I mean idk usually contenders teams don't keep a super similar roster between seasons iirc and considering how completely mid square one was maybe but I have no idea
well unsuccessful ones that is
the god tier t2 lineups stay the same like cc or bh
but I think s1 switches people out like every two months from what I remember
basically yeah
rosters rarely stay between years
only notable ones that did were BH, CC, and Envy if I recall
and now with Doge being dead, Envy isn't in that camp anymore
isn't American Tornado a lot of doge members
ex that is
I don't really follow t2 much at all loll
other than the few players I know
Yes
good, live your life man
Sigh, bdosin and whoru retired
https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/l04970/more_context_on_the_ryujehong_incident/ idk how accurate this is but... thought i should leave it here
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hmpf
it makes what he was saying
slightly better
doesntchange the fact that he sexist doe???

Hmm, I think context kind of helps 
Hmm
like it makes the treatment to the female streamer is way better
but about ryujehongsexist is still a thing
Tragic 
What did he say?
@GenG_KR @arnoldwh Is this really the type of behavior GenG tolerates? I will translate what he said on his stream, might not deliver what the meaning conveys 100% but you can still see how misogynist or outright sexist he is.
#ryujehong https://t.co/hAP716HEzh
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there's a whole bunch of having a sister
to just get him soju

The longtime viewers/fans of Jehong's stream are better aware than probably anyone of "context." They are used to Jehong using cursewords and being "mean," which has long been part of the "tsundere" dynamic on his stream.
But this recent stream crossed a line, even for them. https://t.co/x8I6UffiyI
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gatamchun thoughts
the problem is just so simple
he's sexist
so
unstan
cancelled
so when OW2 comes out its fair game for anyone to go pro?
Why are quite a few people ranking Guangzhou so low for next season? Kaylee looked good during their game against Shanghai, they've picked up ChoiSehwan, and their tank line + Eileen are still there. The only downgrade I can see is there support line, but I can't see their supports being terrible by any means
Idk, but they are putting Fuel high again

@next mesa well too bad I don't think he's sexist just because some say it. Agree to disagree
Why are quite a few people ranking Guangzhou so low for next season?
They're still considered unknown potential - there's not enough weight to these players success despite chinese contenders stonks rising
Meanwhile their korean players aren't going to be looked at as star performers when you put them side to side against the strikers or smurfs in the same role
@plucky viper
the thing is, is the girl he called those names offended?
probably not, but that's not the point
who was jehong talking to in his stream
if the person wasn't offended then what's this crusade about?
he still just went live and said bad shit
if i called someone a racial slur
and they didn't care
other people could still be upset about it
good point
i kinda agree that with more translations it's a lot less bad but still
that apolagy was ass
he should have just stated like
''we're good friends and it was just jokes''
''sorry if i offended anyone''
switch to mercy 
there wouldn't be a problem if he'd just apologise like any rational human and explain that the girl was fine with it
also i think it becomes an issue hwne like
you say it to a public audience
like ye everyone makes dumbass jokes with their friends in private its when you say it in front of 1000 people you get flak
Rip fuze retired as well




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