esports-discussion

[hot heart]

It was so weird seeing a team named dubai sandstorm

[tawdry hamlet]

For such a newly formed team they did pretty well

Ksaa playing in normal ping was fun to watch

[tawdry hamlet]

I was reading in a twitter thread that rascal flopped in scrims

[plush grail]

link?

[raw ermine]

it was the dusttin bowerman show

[vagrant jacinth]

Speaking of, he's got a bunch of cool guests lined up

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot heart]

So

We haven't talked about the possibility of rascal not getting picked up

Or not for being picked up for a long time

I feel like either there's a massive bidding war for him

Or no one wants him

I could believe both

[hot heart]

Or can't afford him

[trail perch]

Libero might not find team sadge?

[hot heart]

If rascal cant find a team

Libero definitely can't

[trail perch]

Whoru no team

[hot heart]

Depending on his asking price anyway

[trail perch]

So much talent no team

Pine, steller

stellar

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean Pine hasn't played in ages so who knows

[hot onyx]

Idk what Washington were thinking by not throwing ttuba to the curb and throwing some money at libero

[tawdry hamlet]

apparently ttuba has been nuts in scrims according to twitter comments

but idk how much truth to that there is

[hot onyx]

Personally I find that hard to believe because from what I’ve seen all season he has a decent genji/pharah and a useable sombra

[tawdry hamlet]

idk if I would even call his genji decent by owl standards, really just his pharah lmaoo

[hot onyx]

I mean his genji caused an upset against the gladiators in summer showdown

[tawdry hamlet]

fair, but isn't Mirror the glads genji? I didn't watch that series

[hot onyx]

I think kevster was in at that time lemme double check

Brb

Yeah kevster was the genji for the glads

[tawdry hamlet]

tbh all things considered, I think glads won the offseason, they literally went from like top 9 to top 3

[hot onyx]

cough defiant cough

[raw ermine]

we did pretty well

but dallas might have done better

[tawdry hamlet]

oh yeah dallas did really well lmao

[hot onyx]

They’re still gonna shit the bed though

[tawdry hamlet]

Dallas Moment

[hot onyx]

Cursed org

[tawdry hamlet]

London Lost the Offseason, literally abandoned their few actually good players and then promoted their contenders team and picked up a doomfist 1tp

[raw ermine]

paris lost worse

[tawdry hamlet]

Titans also dumped their only good players for some cheap backup shit from atlanta

[hot onyx]

Only titans upgrade I see was fire > carcar

[raw ermine]

teru is an actually projectile, no?

[tawdry hamlet]

tbf you could take almost any t500 ms and it would upgrade from carcar lmaoo

[raw ermine]

not a 3 hitscan dps line this time

[hot onyx]

Fair

[tawdry hamlet]

Dalton won't have to flex lmaoo

[hot onyx]

Rip Daltons playtime

[tawdry hamlet]

Dalton Flex was so baddd

his genji meme

his hitscan is so much better than his other roles and his hitscan is lower mid tier

if that

[hot onyx]

Unless tracer/double hitscan is meta Dalton is gonna bench as hard as chipsa

[raw ermine]

teru linkzr dps line cracked

[tawdry hamlet]

idk linkzr hasn't looked great in recent times

and with a downgraded tank line 😦

[raw ermine]

he is up and down

[vagrant jacinth]

I could believe it

[hot onyx]

Honestly in the case of paris v titans I’d take Naga Onigod any day of the week over Teru Linkzr

[raw ermine]

like normal

[tawdry hamlet]

well actually, Muma vs Shredlock is equal lmao

shredlock is the mt right?

I can barely remember now

[raw ermine]

yea

[vagrant jacinth]

I can already see reinforce malding if rascal doesn't get picked up lmao

[hot onyx]

Yes shredlock is mt and frd replaces KSAA for ot

Apparently fusion has made a high bid for rascal

[tawdry hamlet]

if ksaa wasn't stuck overseas he easily could outplay frd imo

[hot onyx]

But with Washington and New York announcing their full lineups idk who is still in the bidding for him

[hot onyx]

It doesn’t take eyes to be able to see a statement that obvious, dude.

[tawdry hamlet]

honestly I think teams just realized how much cheaper and almost as good the top tier contenders dps looked

NYXL picked up a nice dps line

[hot onyx]

Yeah they did

But they also promoted Whynot to head coach and kept IMT in the staff

[tawdry hamlet]

nyxl s3 coaching moment

[hot onyx]

They’ll make feather the off tank and ivy the main support knowing them

[tawdry hamlet]

Can't be worse than playing chex on mei for a whole season

[hot onyx]

Ok I’m out of the loop here who tf is chex?

[raw ermine]

colourhex

[hot onyx]

Ahhhh the worst flex dps in the league

[tawdry hamlet]

Boston Flex dps who has a far better hitscan than his flex characters but since they only had jerry he had to flex and they kept him on mei 😦

[hot onyx]

I remember him

[tawdry hamlet]

he is actually really solid too but gets no love because his tank line and coaching was dog

well not really solid

but like mid lmao

[hot onyx]

He’s a hitscan?

[raw ermine]

tracer, widow, zarya

[tawdry hamlet]

his ashe in ladder goes hard

he plays ashe and widow like exclusively on stream

[vagrant jacinth]

Hard to shine on boston

[tawdry hamlet]

myun found a way

😮

[hot onyx]

Not if you’re myungbong

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmao yeah

[tawdry hamlet]

glad they have a flexible dps and tank lineup now

and not a tank lineup who can only play rein and barely orisa lmao

[hot onyx]

Flexible tank lineup not dps yet

Unless I’m a living boomer moment isn’t im37 a hitscan?

[raw ermine]

yeah

[vagrant jacinth]

Im37 is hitscan yeh

[hot onyx]

I thought so

[tawdry hamlet]

soon can play a few non hitscans, but only the ones like junkrat lmao

[hot onyx]

Last time I checked their dps lineup was im37 SoOn and chex

So what happens in a genji/echo/mei meta?

[tawdry hamlet]

they have like, hitscan plus sym and mei tbh

~and pharah

since that is chex's main flex hero iirc

[hot onyx]

Yeah but pharah is almost never used in owl and if she is she gets almost insta countered

[tawdry hamlet]

insert houston in playoffs last season

hydration pharah go brr

[hot onyx]

Yeah that was embarrassing

But at the same time it was one of those moments where if it worked everyone would be praising him instead of ripping him to shreds

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah, the coaches only preparing a pharah comp for playoffs tho is like

man

[hot onyx]

Then do something like fusion vs gladiators in the regular season

Where they adapted to a sombra comp 2-0 down

Even if they did something as far fetched as hydration on doomfist with danteh tracer it would’ve been a better choice

[raw ermine]

blase main tank lul xd

[tawdry hamlet]

Danteh had a pretty bad series too lmao

Recall off the map moment

[hot onyx]

That was more unlooky

Speaking of unlookiness, ChumpSa hasn’t found a team yet

Absolute tragedy

[raw ermine]

yeah its sad, he was probably gonna get numerous offers, but instead has said he is taking time off to stream

[tawdry hamlet]

Lmao

[hot onyx]

That’s a shame he would’ve dominated

[raw ermine]

yung chippers

[tawdry hamlet]

The fact philly signed chipsa before filling the rest of their roster is an even bigger meme

[raw ermine]

did he get signed before heesu?

[tawdry hamlet]

I believe it was a tank but I don't recall

[raw ermine]

they were the last 2

[hot onyx]

I knew they signed him before they signed heesu but surely he didn’t come in before alarm Astro and fury

[tawdry hamlet]

Ha Heesu

[raw ermine]

they announced nearly all the players in one big YT vid

then announced chipsa and heesu after

as well as snillo leaving

[hot onyx]

I remember the vid and going off my my ass seeing fury yeah

Had no clue who heesu was until I saw the homestand match vs mayhem and justice

Turned out he can totally fuck and toronto got a massive pickup out of it

[raw ermine]

yeah

sado was pog too

more pog than heesu imo

[tawdry hamlet]

I haven't seen enough Heesu that wasn't sombra or tracer to accurately judge

[hot onyx]

Dude as a day 1 fusion fan I never thought I’d be sad to see him leave but I am

[raw ermine]

he played widow over carpe on tracer n the playoffs

[hot onyx]

Heesu played a fair share of ashe and widow

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah lmao

Carpe and Ivy both have a better ashe tbh

[raw ermine]

doubt ivy does

[hot onyx]

Ivy on ashe?

[raw ermine]

ivy is projectile

[hot onyx]

[raw ermine]

idk why they played ivy in the playoffs tho

[tawdry hamlet]

He's flex

Eqo is projectile

[raw ermine]

they never used projectile dps that carpe couldn't play

[hot onyx]

Because his hanzo is absolutely nuts?

That’s why?

[raw ermine]

I think the impact of having carpe in to play widow/tracer is more than having ivy's hanzo compared to that of carpe

aka

[tawdry hamlet]

Carpe should have played over Heesu in a Hanzo widow meta

[raw ermine]

ivy hanzo-carpe hanzo<carpe widow/tracer-ivy widow/tracer

[hot onyx]

Uh I’m sorry ivy widow > ivy hanzo?

[tawdry hamlet]

What was funny was that Busan point where philly just got bullied lmao

[raw ermine]

never seen ivy play widow

[hot onyx]

I just don’t see why they didn’t run carpe widow ivy hanzo

It worked more than greatly against justice

And last map on Anubis vs seoul profit was being more aggressive than heesu

That’s where I felt that carpe would’ve made a difference

Maybe also swapping poko to hog and fury to sigma instead of vice versa

[tawdry hamlet]

Fury is a great sigma

Depressing they just ran players not on their best heroes for some reason

[hot onyx]

Yeah that kinda happens with fusion playoffs

Numb the pain and attempt to forget the profit ptsd

[tawdry hamlet]

It'd be like if shock ran striker on widow just because in playoffs

[vagrant jacinth]

Bless playoff profit

[hot onyx]

Try telling that to season 2

[tawdry hamlet]

[vagrant jacinth]

😔

[hot onyx]

Hey I don’t like bringing up season 2 either man

Especially not after the play ins

Shit speaking of old fusion Boombox hasn’t found a team yet either

I would’ve thought he’d get signed to one of the eu teams like paris or london

Am I the only one surprised about this or is he not as good of a western fs as my blinding bias believes?

[tawdry hamlet]

Western fs is just a dead position lmao

[hot onyx]

Well yeah I can agree with that when you look at last season

Roolf Rawkus Shaz Dogman Crimzo

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot onyx]

Half of that list isn’t in the league anymore

[tropic herald]

At least this year we have Kaan and Ripa

[hot onyx]

Yeah they do better I’m sure of it

Just baffles me how roolf still has a team

[tawdry hamlet]

Because no korean wants to go to that dogshit org so replacements are hard to find

[digital cloud]

plus at least he isn't Carcar

[tawdry hamlet]

Teru had to be desperate

[digital cloud]

if you are better than Carcar, you ought to have a chance

[hot onyx]

Scout na or eu contenders and throw a small chunk of money at whoever catches your fancy

9 times out of 9 you’ll find a better choice than roolf

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/northow1/status/1348153165229682689?s=21 Malthel to Asia?

NorthOW (@NorthOW1)

@MalthelOW Haha do you wanna try Asia?

Twitter · Jan 10, 2021, 6:22 AM

[tawdry hamlet]

[hot onyx]

Don’t follow much contenders other than a slight eye glance at Asia so no clue who malthel is

[tropic herald]

He’s basically Blase but a lot younger

[hot onyx]

But he gets a catJAM so he must be decent right?

[tropic herald]

He played for Oddessy

[hot onyx]

Good for him

[tropic herald]

And for whatever reason CC wants to trial him

[hot onyx]

Unless Oddesy is a worse org than titans

Damn if cc want him he must be good

Ok to prevent the chat from dying out I’m just gonna say who I think could turn philadelphia fusions off-season around to a major upgrade

If they picked up GaeBullSi alongside the rumoured pickup of Rascal and train mano into an aggro beast they become the next shock

Shit it’s 3:15AM and my phone is about to die

🌊ya

[tawdry hamlet]

Malthiel slaps ass

he also roasts streamers that leave a game after soft throwing a teamfight and getting called on it lmao

he shit on rammy in this fat paragraph rant

https://twitter.com/MalthelOW/status/1343656068086439940?s=20

MaltheL (@MalthelOW)

@RammyOW @cyy_ow Massive loser, stop playing ranked if you're going to have the skin of a baby. Nobody wants you to play anyways just inting games constantly making it unfun. Sorry your feeling got hurt because someone called you shit. The big question is it true? Yes, you're dogshit log off.

Likes

492

Twitter · Dec 28, 2020, 8:32 PM

lmao

[hot heart]

How good is teru

[tawdry hamlet]

I have no idea

idek who he was until he was signed

[hot heart]

Same

I was gonna say he must've impressed in trials

But vancouver have a low bar

So nvm

[tawdry hamlet]

by low bar they literally had nobody at projectile so they probably got him for peanuts

and figured it is better than nothing

I should watch some of his matches im curious now

[hot heart]

I think being teru rn

You need to impress next year

Or show glimpses of potential

And then you might be set

[tawdry hamlet]

as long as someone on vancouver can like pull a shockwave/myunbong and stand out on a shit team then maybe they can retain like a tiny bit of a fanbase

but otherwise idk who would still follow that team since shockwave was the only reason anyone cared about them lmao

[hot heart]

Rn vancouver has just been banished to the shadow realm of being hated

They're the only team that are truly bad

Every other team is at least decent

[tawdry hamlet]

there are like 10 different contenders teams I can think of that could beat vancouver

kind of wild

that they are even a t1 team at this point

[hot heart]

Yep

[tawdry hamlet]

lmaoo malthiel played gauntlet with an unactivated windows copy what a god

https://twitter.com/MalthelOW/status/1348030696187691014?s=20

MaltheL (@MalthelOW)

Looking at clips through gauntlet I was so fckin dumb LOL @RhynO_OW https://t.co/gM9biSl07G

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jan 9, 2021, 10:15 PM

[hot heart]

Whats their squad rn

Shredlock Frd Linkzr Teru Dalton

Then what

I dont even remember

Like

Fire?

Yeah

Then someone else, or maybe they just didn't sign a MS yet and im tripping

[tawdry hamlet]

Roolf

Fire is ms

[next mesa]

yeah fire

who signed joobi again

was it outlaws

[raw ermine]

Yes

[hot heart]

Im surprised roolf hasn't retired like CarCar tbh

[tawdry hamlet]

No reason to, he can cruise through another easy season of guranteed money and housing

[balmy wolf]

i mean if they do semi decent next year hes probs gonna stay on the team

plus hes Canadian so bonus points

[next mesa]

They won't doe too bad

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/leakmafia_ow/status/1348383948611743744?s=21

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

Some interesting names in BH trials...

Twitter · Jan 10, 2021, 9:39 PM

[silk frost]

Is there a Pharah main amongst them?

[hot heart]

Imagine BH just pickup rascal

[silk frost]

Lol

[sullen berry]

censorship/10

[karmic grotto]

[plush light]

Rascal best pharah after dding

[plush grail]

either rascal is gonna retire

or announce a team

[plush light]

Rascal, libero, profit, dding, and haksal are the best pharahs

In no particular order

[feral zodiac]

Ttuba pharah underrated

[plush light]

But ttuba is not as good as rascal. He got absolutely wrecked by him. Also, I forgot fleta

[feral zodiac]

On pharah?

[true hound]

u forgot sdb

fool

[plush light]

Sdb?

[wild moth]

hey quick question can i see somewhere when the next EMEA open division starts ?

[true hound]

@plush light shadowburn

[plush light]

He wasnt in owl last year

[balmy wolf]

cant be

[plush light]

Ans was the best widow, but how would he match up with 2017 fl0w3r

[balmy wolf]

hes is genji god

true

ans is overrated imo

idk why nyxl even dropped flower

[true hound]

ANS is very very good

KSP is as good

Imo

[balmy wolf]

like they wanna lose

[plush light]

Ans isn't overrated, there are just other good widow players not in owl

[true hound]

Decay I think is as good as well

[balmy wolf]

who is ksp?

[true hound]

LAV

[plush light]

Fl0w3r sucked after 2017 owwc

[balmy wolf]

probably bossted player

[true hound]

smh

[plush light]

Best Western widow

[balmy wolf]

what? everyone knows the best western hitscan is pine

[true hound]

💯💯

[plush light]

Pine isn't western, but he is best hitscan. Western means non-aisian

[balmy wolf]

pine is on new york

new york is in usa

[plush light]

Not anymore

[balmy wolf]

you should know

[plush light]

But pine is south Korean

[balmy wolf]

no way

why is he in new york then

[plush light]

Because new york got a Korean team

They even played in apac

[balmy wolf]

apac?

I THOUGHT OWL

[plush light]

Asian pacifc region of owl

That's what apac is

[balmy wolf]

thats so weird

[plush light]

In owl you have apac and na, the two regions.

It's because of covid

[balmy wolf]

they have only seoul in asia

[plush light]

They had seoul, Shanghai, Guangzhou, chengdu, London, New York, and Hangzhou

In apac

[balmy wolf]

ah yes shanghai

0-40

lol

[plush light]

York owl info is outdated

[balmy wolf]

they still exist?

i would delete my team

if it goes 0-40

[plush light]

Shanghai had the best record in the league this year

They were third in playoffs

[balmy wolf]

lol

no way

[next mesa]

This guy trolling

[balmy wolf]

and nyxl is last??

wtf

[next mesa]

Wdym no way

Literally go on google headass

[balmy wolf]

ok

btw you have weird takes levy ngl

[plush light]

Vancouver is last

[balmy wolf]

rip runaway

[plush light]

Shanghai kdp was cool

Kdp is kongdoo panthera, and I'm talking about the second squad

[balmy wolf]

dding diem diya?

that squad?

[plush light]

Dding youngjin luffy coma diem gamsu

[vagrant jacinth]

Lmao yeah this dude hasn't seen owl in a hot minute

[cedar oasis]

This man is in season 1 of owl

[balmy wolf]

funny thing is i didnt even watch season 1

i started in season 2

and watched almost every game since

im addicted

[trail perch]

Then why do you think pine is good?

He didnt play s2

and only popped off s1

then retired before s3

[balmy wolf]

big troll

i think pine is overrated

[trail perch]

oh ok that makes sense

[balmy wolf]

way too inconsistent

[plush light]

Pine is good

Saying he is bad is like saying birdring or profit are bad just because they are inconsistent

[balmy wolf]

they are not inconsistent imo

but pine is

[feral zodiac]

Birdring and profit aren't that inconsistent though

[forest raven]

Birdring

[plush light]

Birdring is definitely inconsistent, maybe not profit

The most consistent player in owl last year was Roar
||consistently BAD||

[next mesa]

no no remember he did that one good play against london 🗿

shatter

[plush light]

Oh sh!t you right

[next mesa]

ok but like if we talking fr

prob like choi or void

consistantly god tier

[plush light]

Fr its smurf

Fr its rascal

[digital cloud]

yeah, smurf was consistent, as was most of shock

[plush light]

And architect

Mano was consistent

And so was fate and gangnamjin

[wanton birch]

Birdring wasn’t that inconsistent last season

It was more his team

[next mesa]

who's hybrid

on london

someone wanna introduce me

[plush light]

But he has a history of being inconsistent

[plush light]

Hitscan dps from eu contenders

[next mesa]

=I see

[cedar oasis]

Most consistent player ever on owl is mano

All 3 seasons he was top5

[wanton birch]

i wonder what would have happened if fissure ended up getting season 1 mvp

[cedar oasis]

How could he

[hexed kestrel]

NYXL have a shit team apart from jjonak

[wanton birch]

i mean he did come second place if i remember

[plush light]

Jjonak is shit, but Bianca is good

Jjonak Moira and bap are shit

His zen is like viol2t's(he sometimes feeds) and his ana is good

[cedar oasis]

Jjonack just needs to improve his bap wich shouldent be that hard

Yakpung is good so is Bianca

It's the dps that's shaky

Ivy is good

Everyone else is unproven

Apac is stacked tho

[hexed kestrel]

i agree

[plush light]

Idk why they played hotba over Bianca

[hot onyx]

In some compositions hotba was a better choice

But once again an example of the worst coaching staff in owl

[grave sail]

bianca>>>>>>>>>>>hotba on any hero but hog

[feral zodiac]

Glads were let down by biggoose and oge

[grave sail]

nyxl dps line is like top 3

[feral zodiac]

Everyone else on glads played pretty well

[hot onyx]

Big goose?

[grave sail]

shaz had the worst bap in owl

[hot onyx]

A let down with biggoose?

[grave sail]

but good ana and zen

biggoose was shit

[feral zodiac]

Did you not see biggoose this season?

He was bad bad

[hot onyx]

I didn’t think he was horrible honestly just didn’t have the synergy with shaz as he used to

[grave sail]

he was horrible

his brig and mercy were bottom 3

and his lucio was below average

[feral zodiac]

His lucio was alright

But the biggoose brig man

[grave sail]

he was playing brig like rein

[feral zodiac]

That was painful to watch

[hot onyx]

Yeah I agree on that part

But I mostly saw his lucio/mercy and it wasn’t too bad imo

[grave sail]

his lucio was alright

[plush light]

Jjonak? Aimgod?

[grave sail]

but most of the season he was terrible

[grave sail]

shaz was worse than both

[hot onyx]

He wasn’t astro/moth level

[plush light]

Shaz was good

[grave sail]

biggose was like c tier

[plush light]

The worst bap was aimgod

[hot onyx]

But he did the job alright

[grave sail]

fair but shaz bap is horrible too

if feeding is doing the job alright then ig he did

[hot onyx]

Shaz bap was more painful than bg brig imo

[plush light]

Shaz was ok. He didn't stand out as bad like aimgod and jjonak did

[grave sail]

he did

his lamps were awful

[plush light]

Ljg Lucio fed, but people still think he is good

[grave sail]

and he had really bad decision makin

[grave sail]

yeah its weird

hes a meh lucio and mercy

his tankline carry him

[plush light]

Maybe. I mostly focused on the dps of glads in their games

Ljg brig was good though

[hot onyx]

I wouldn’t have said ljg was a hard feeder but he was questionable a lot of the time

[plush light]

He hard fed in playoffs

[hot onyx]

He decisions were more of “if this works I’ll be praised and if it doesn’t I’ll be torn to shreds” moments

He isn’t bad but how he got role star instead of moth or astro is a scandal

[cedar oasis]

He was one of the best

Until the playoffs

Then everyone turned against him

[cobalt spoke]

Ljg literally had like a month to get his shit together on Lucio after blocking like 0 emps in a match

And then he hard fed lmao

[feral zodiac]

Playoffs ljg wasn't up to scratch with the rest of the team

Stand1 wasn't the greatest as well imo

Tobi really turned up for the playoffs

Creat1ve as well

[earnest leaf]

the meta just wasn't in SHDs favor at all

[silk frost]

I mean Fearless was an alright roadhog back in the day

Like even in season 1 of OWL he pulled it out and played better than his Winston or rein

It was more so that they weren't as coordinated or mechanically powerful as shock or Seoul respectively

[earnest leaf]

That's the smurf/striker/viol2t diff

well super's hog I should say

But smurf had a really good ball during Grand finals

[next mesa]

super was supposed to run ball too

on

gibraltar

[silk frost]

Smurf ball

[vagrant jacinth]

What's this ljg bashing? He was outstanding until playoffs where he started to int

[earnest leaf]

Remember when super ran ball on hanamura

heh

[silk frost]

He inted all year its just that it wasn't effective during playoffs

[earnest leaf]

SHD didn't have a meta where they 100% were better than the teams they faced

[silk frost]

Now granted I love LJG and think he played well, but I think the same with bumper

Thats fair

[noble nexus]

LJG never really got punished by APAC teams

[plush light]

They just didn't play it right. They should have put lip on hanzo and fleta/diem on widow, or even had dding on hanzo

Ljg is probably just bumper smurfing on main support

[earnest leaf]

Bumper feeding was different

Bumper feeding was just how titans played goats

then the entire team hard pocketed him

[noble nexus]

that was a HARD throw but I guess he just got carried away with it because he played well and then just never swapped when he needed to

Bumper had an entire world class team to feed with him

[plush light]

So did ljg

[noble nexus]

LJG feeding was as if he just left team vc and went balls to the walls

the rest of shanghai never followed him like vanc followed bumper

[plush light]

True

[plush grail]

which game did ljg feed the most

link me up

[plush light]

Shock

[noble nexus]

vs shock

I feel like shock were just better at punishing him feeding and it was more noticeable

[next mesa]

and also he was feeding

[noble nexus]

he was good until playoffs

[plush light]

Bumper used to be an off tank, then a main support, then a main tank, and now we have his final form as a hanzo main

[noble nexus]

Bumper played everything

[plush light]

It just worked until he hit better teams in playoffs

[noble nexus]

he was a reaper main too I heard

exactly

[plush light]

Right, I forgot

[plush grail]

bumper FUCKED

[noble nexus]

only man to ever make super look like a child on the rein

[plush grail]

super IS a child

[noble nexus]

we're all children in the eyes of Bumper

[plush light]

Did you know Kruise used to be a genji player

[plush light]

Yes

[plush grail]

holy shit i legit thought the leejaegon feeding was kinda being blown up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkrZP8_pRss

but what the fuck was he doing

[tropic herald]

He played like that all year idk why anyone was surprised by it

[earnest leaf]

just it got a lot of attention brought to it when super went over it on stream

[plush grail]

did the other apac teams just suck ass at punishing reddit lucio leejaegon?

[tropic herald]

I can distinctly remember them facing Guangzhou on Eichenwalde second, he was on Bap, he got one kill and jumped up behind the whole enemy team in the scaffold thing, windowed and instantly gets halted down and dies

[plush grail]

supports are super hit and miss tbh

you either have hyper feeding

or super passive like anamo

[noble nexus]

tbf SHD were just better than everyone else most days so punishing LJG didn't matter

because dig bick fleta just wins

[plush grail]

if LJG didn't ultra feed in the finals, they could have had a chance

[noble nexus]

nah meta really didn't favour them either

[next mesa]

honestly that striker death was just kinda unlucky

[plush grail]

yeah the striker one wasn't feeding

also season 4

we're gonna see carpe and diem play again

pog

[next mesa]

yush

time for diem to win every match up

closely 🤏

[plush grail]

honestly expecting alot of teabagging

[next mesa]

that would be pog

https://twitter.com/T1/status/1348532601074585603

T1 (@T1)

T1 오버워치 컨텐더스 팀에 새롭게 합류한 "ZEST" 김현우, "Belosrea" 황규태, "Krillin" 정영훈, "Unique" 유동현, "MN3" 윤재희, "Kadalis" 라영환, "Clestyn" 조건희 선수들을 환영해주세요! 새롭게 돌아온 T1 오버워치 팀에 팬 여러분들의 많은 관심 부탁드립니다.

#T1WIN #Overwatch

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Twitter · Jan 11, 2021, 7:30 AM

also T1

Unique went to T1

[plush grail]

weren't people expecting him to go to dallas

[next mesa]

yea

cuz he was on em when they won gauntlet

[plush grail]

also someone tweeted something about owl people in bh trials

im actually hoping atleast 1 london spitfire joins bh

the ol switcharoo

[silk frost]

The fuze hurricane

[plush grail]

what if they kept fuze for so long just so they could make a smooth transition to bh 👀

[silk frost]

More proof that Fuze is Blase's pet

[vagrant jacinth]

Ooh krillin and clestyn naisu

[worn falcon]

is that t1 ow right?

[raw ermine]

yes

[worn falcon]

didnt knew they were investing in ow contendies

[raw ermine]

they're philly's academy team

[trail perch]

wasnt that fusion uni?

[raw ermine]

they became t1

[trail perch]

oh

What happened to gladiators legion and mayhem academy

And atl academy

I dont usually follow contendies

But I was watching old vods and I was like where are these teams now

[next mesa]

all disbanded

T2 dead

[trail perch]

ugh

[next mesa]

well idk about now

[trail perch]

Atl academy was a great team

2nd in gauntlet

[raw ermine]

they all are taking "hiatuses"

[trail perch]

Sugarfree's home

[trim barn]

what is the meta this season?

[kind ridge]

Which teams will go to apac next season?

i know philly but who else

[bright goblet]

sigma ball, and echo

thats all i know at least

[untold wraith]

zen brig

ashe tracer mercy bap also very good

[balmy wolf]

sigma ball mercy ashe zen tracer

[slow kraken]

Echo is only broken with a mercy beam

Otherwise she’ll be shot down pretty quick

[kind ridge]

in low elo soldier is seeing SO much play

also good against echo

[cedar oasis]

Soldier is the first hero most new people play

[iron reef]

True. He is the tutorial hero.

[tawdry hamlet]

Popopopopopop

Shit wrong channel

I thought this was gd

[iron reef]

lol

[plush grail]

truly amazing discussion about overwatch esports

[tawdry hamlet]

Yes

This is so deep

[plush grail]

the reason why viol2t became so washed

[hot heart]

Popopopopopopopop

[trail perch]

ok unpopular opinion

Viol2t not that good

I think that he is enabled by his team

if he played with a different team he wouldnt look nearly as good

Def top 5 tho

[next mesa]

well

he's like the jjonak mechanics without the feed

sometimes feed

shock doe

they good

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/dogmanow/status/1348752943885942785?s=21

The Dusttin Bowerman Show (@DogmanOW)

#TDBShow is on with @moth_ow TODAY, show starts in an hour and Mothball will be on in 2 hours

https://t.co/11hUozwANO to get ready

Twitter · Jan 11, 2021, 10:05 PM

[next mesa]

ooo

oki

[digital cloud]

moth can talk?

[tawdry hamlet]

Yay he got a good guest hype hype hype

Moth is so nice tho

Like if there was a wholesome player award it'd go to him

Also in terms of violet, I think he has insane mechanics, but his aggressive play style on any other team would probably equate to feeding tbh

Like he's easily the best Zen mechanically but his team allows him to play insanely aggressive because there's no holes elsewhere that need to be filled

Like violet on boston imo would just be identical performance to myunbong

Because of the lack of the rest of the team

[noble nexus]

comparing someone to myunbong isn't a bad thing

I still put myunbong above jjonak

and myunbong above a lot of other FS

[next mesa]

how is his other supports other than ana

we all know he's like at least top 3 ana but

[slow kraken]

Ngl alarm is better than violet

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/avalla_ow/status/1348696215190339585

AVALLA 아바라 (@avalla_ow)

Who's next? 😉 https://t.co/BXGM0NtqCN

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Twitter · Jan 11, 2021, 6:20 PM

[noble nexus]

myunbong zen is pretty nutty

didn't watch much else

if he played anything else

[next mesa]

okay this makes no sense

2 more oz gaming players got picked up by T1

who's roster looks stacked

with krillin clestyn and unique

so 3 of their players got in owl teams and 2 more got into promising T2 team how were they so bad in contendies

[plush light]

Myungb0ng is good

[plush grail]

pretty sure leaks said it was jmac

which is kinda pog

[next mesa]

REALLY

that would make no sense but pog

[plush grail]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/kva4wn/leakmafia_jmac_joined_paris/

don't know if this source can be trusted tho

[next mesa]

they will need a translator just for him but yes

[plush grail]

nah i remember seeing that his english was good enough to not need one

[sharp wadi]

Leakmafia has been spot on recently

[raw ermine]

oh yeah

[sharp wadi]

T1 team looks meh

Clestyn ZEST Kadalis Unique are like decent

Belosrea and Krillin are p weak imo

they'll prolly be mid/lower contenders

[slow kraken]

You know all teams have translators

[raw ermine]

re-sign QOQ

[sharp wadi]

why would they resign qoq

when they have Clestyn

[worn falcon]

because yep qoq

[sharp wadi]

would be career suicide for him

[next mesa]

It's way better than not on any teams

[raw ermine]

I meant they should have

[sharp wadi]

nah QoQ has trials

dw

[vagrant jacinth]

Yo jmac to Paris would be neat

[worn falcon]

isnt jmac like coach now?

[sharp wadi]

yes

[next mesa]

looks like he knows his mistakes but cant fix them

hence coaching

very nice

[raw ermine]

oh yeah he said that in his twitlonger

[tight hill]

Jmac had a future tho

[silk frost]

he's a good one too

team of garbage to a top 3 NA tendies team

[noble nexus]

https://twitter.com/Apply/status/1348789745304756226

Apply (@Apply)

nah he's got a good point though

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Twitter · Jan 12, 2021, 12:31 AM

[next mesa]

Saw that

On reddit lmao

[noble nexus]

lmfao

he spitting some straight facts yo

[trail perch]

I mean my alt is plat and my main is masters, does that mean i can coach the shock

[noble nexus]

do you go by Crusty and have an iq of 453?

[sullen berry]

I think it's better to tell the OG to sign as a coach and see how that logic goes, it makes for great copypasta in 2021

[next mesa]

Look

Michael jordan the greatest player of all time

Is fucking dogshit

At being a gm

So

Granted he's not coach but

[raw ermine]

GM is much more managerial, so I don't blame him

[next mesa]

True but he does the scouting and all that shit

And look what he drafts

Kwame brown

[tight hill]

Coaching isn’t the same as doing in game with split second decisions

[tawdry hamlet]

Hornets meme

[upper niche]

There's too many people out there who look at gameplay and want to criticise others over information they didn't have at the time and decisions that you can make as an outside observer but not as the player. Where them making the 'correct' play comes down to did that risk pay out.

[dense pendant]

yep qoq

QOQ

[karmic grotto]

cock

[sullen berry]

this is a cock

https://tenor.com/view/paris-eternal-lets-go-overwatch-league-yes-wooh-gif-16415070

[balmy wolf]

persona

pfp

[tawdry hamlet]

Muted man

[plush grail]

continues to fall apart and go budget

[tawdry hamlet]

🥺

[sullen berry]

honestly, paris and their expenditure is like a slow cooked lamb rack

you expect them to fall apart from the bone when it's impossible to

now matter how cheap it was to get it

[plush grail]

what the fuck are you trying to say

somethin about meat and bones

[tawdry hamlet]

[balmy wolf]

muma to paris

[tawdry hamlet]

[balmy wolf]

kapp

[sullen berry]

Le Paris Etermal

the m stands for muma

[karmic grotto]

Nevertheless, we will enjoy season four when it comes

[cedar oasis]

Season 4

The most balanced season

Theres like 5 teams who have a good chance of winning

[vagrant jacinth]

Season 4

It's gonna be so good

[trail perch]

only a few more months

[tawdry hamlet]

If s4 launches on a power creep ass meta like this one I'll actually cry

This meta sucks some ass

It's okay to watch but if your mt doesn't have a good ball or if your off tank isn't as good on sigma as others you're automatically fucked

[raw ermine]

https://liquipedia.net/overwatch/Ryujehong
Jehong is a streamer now for Gen G

[tawdry hamlet]

[plush grail]

so no owl contract

but not gone yet

[next mesa]

poggers

ill take it

[plush grail]

with him going to content creation he can always come back

just happy he's not retiring

[digital cloud]

I don't think ryu is coming back

I want him to very badly, though

[plush grail]

fs is just way too stacked rn

like i only ever see jhong returning if a new korean team joins owl

[raw ermine]

team busan when?

[plush grail]

and they for some reason decide to pick old players like miro and esca

[next mesa]

teams would prob rather take a

promising talent in contenders

[plush grail]

thats never happening but still would be hella cool

[next mesa]

but like if you take that talent

and pair him up with jehong

might be good

[digital cloud]

jehong is probably ok to have on an otherwise god tier team

like the titans, for instance

[next mesa]

for double fs metas

[plush grail]

but i dont see him ever joining a team like shock

[digital cloud]

probably not

[plush grail]

imagine fuckin viol2t, twiligh and jhong tho

[digital cloud]

that would be sick

[next mesa]

but a bit unnecessary

[digital cloud]

throw in jjonak for whatever reason and it would be a collection of all the best fs

[next mesa]

like u know

wait whats his name again

the guy behind fielder

fuck

im blanking out

starts with r

[plush grail]

rapel?

[next mesa]

yes

fuck

so I could see jehong taking a rapel kind of role

[digital cloud]

where he is effectively worthless?

[next mesa]

no he's not

just like

is twilight useless?

[digital cloud]

basically

[next mesa]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[digital cloud]

they are never gonna play him over violet

[next mesa]

new support heroes are coming out though

could run ana/another

support

[digital cloud]

well, maybe then, but we don't know for sure when it happens

[next mesa]

be responsible for*

[plush grail]

new heroes soon

but the flex god himself

remains unsigned

sadge

i really hope there's just a massive behind the scenes bidding war for rascal

[next mesa]

well like

IF

he is unsigned

it's like 90% because he just didn't wanna play anymore

[plush light]

The flex gods are rascal profit fleta and libero.

[next mesa]

oh well I got 2 rings ima head out

[plush light]

Only half signed
😫

[plush grail]

ok sonic

[next mesa]

??

[worn falcon]

Ryujehongsexy not OWL sadge

[tight hill]

Honestly plat chat spoke rascal to Washington into existence so I’m hoping that happens now

[plush grail]

i dont see that happening tho

they already have ttuba for projectile

and like

double projectile is almost never a thing

[noble nexus]

I doubt washington can offer rascal enough money

[plush grail]

yeah after picking up fury, mag and extending decay

the bank must be running low

[noble nexus]

I feel like that was kinda obvious with their lackluster supp line compared to tanks/dps

[plush grail]

watch us all be wrong

and he just flopped in every try-out

and nobody wants him

and on the 13th he's gonna announce he's lft contenders

[noble nexus]

I think there was a rumour along those lines

[next mesa]

nah like

first of all

rascal shouldn't need a trial

[plush grail]

yeah but still like

yeah what levy said

[next mesa]

and secondly

[plush grail]

even if rascal has a bad day during try-outs

he's still top tier

[next mesa]

I would hope the coaches have a brain

and just go look at his vods on shock

lmao

and then make a decision

[noble nexus]

I mean I don't think he should even be trial'd if he's interested in joining a team

it's fairly obvious how capable he is

[plush grail]

he's not like super who needs a babysitter

he's a flex god

[cobalt spoke]

Do we actually have info on rascal yet?

[wanton birch]

has fissure tried to join a team this season or nah ?

[silk frost]

if Rascal or Libero don't get signed to the Justice I'm killing someone

[worn falcon]

libero sadge

[tight hill]

Souel could use them

Don’t call me crazy

[next mesa]

rascal for mei echo sure

the rest doe

P r o f i t

[limber pine]

@cobalt spoke steam on the 13th to explain stuff

[karmic grotto]

maybe u should start killing as dps

[cobalt spoke]

What dat mean

[karmic grotto]

He will talk about himself and the future

[limber pine]

I meant stream

I typed wrong

rascal is having a stream on the 13th to explain what's happening with him

[cobalt spoke]

Ohh

[silk frost]

https://twitter.com/GenG_KR/status/1348811937816092675?s=20

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I'm almost crying rn

[digital cloud]

more known for lunatic hai I would think

[wanton birch]

i know this may sound stupid as hell but what if they had overwatch league start before ow 2 came out to the public

[balmy wolf]

would be big hype for owl

[wanton birch]

make it like a week or a couple days so that people who wouldnt usually watch have a reason to

[balmy wolf]

but for long term sucess they just need to balnce the game and make fun heroes meta

[tawdry hamlet]

Lowkey thinking rascal doesn't have a team

[plush grail]

if he doesn't make owl

he can become a kpop artist

he's pretty damn cute

[tight hill]

He’s got a hell of a name for it too

[next mesa]

yeah and just tell smurf to teach singing

🗿

[slow lodge]

where do you guys think Rascal will go

[tough wharf]

to korea

[limber pine]

Nothing low key about it

Most rosters are fine

*done

[tropic herald]

I’d imagine there’s another wave soon

I know that Pre specifically said while teams had their 7 man that there could be more signings

[plush grail]

maybe a long shot but what if the current rosters are like the ow 1 focused rosters

and owl players are getting inside info about owl2 heroes

so they can sign people who they think fit those heroes

idk

i just want libero and rascal back

[plush light]

I want fl0w3r and pine back. And libero and rascal and dding.

[limber pine]

We still don’t know when OW2 will get here though

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk I just don't think they did well in trials but it's hard to imagine the most flexible dps in the league who has a top tier of like 5 different heroes can't find a team unless he retired

[plush light]

I want fleta widow to be a thing again

[tawdry hamlet]

Who's the highest sensitivity of the best widows?

I think it's Xzi at like 4950 edpi

And the rest are all like 3200 to 4000

Idk why Xzi uses a higher relative zoom sensitivity than 37.89 or 38

It'd be weird having a widow zoom that is faster scoped than unscoped imo

But he does it for some reason

Fleta widow on 800 7 sensitivity go brr 🥶

[tight hill]

Also I think the orgs know with ow2 is coming

[earnest leaf]

I don't think so

Because that would mean that all the heroes would be completed and able to be shared

[plush grail]

They must know

And they don't need to be completed herows

I'm pretty sure the coaches could make some plans just with hero concepts

[earnest leaf]

I honestly don't think we get ow2 till late 2021

We have had zero news on it since the announcement

blizzcon online this year will probably just give us one of two things. 1. an announcement of release date and the plans and what not, maybe a beta. Or 2. a generic PR public announcement of how they are still working on itt

[balmy wolf]

we know some basic appearances of new heroes, but i suspect no one expect devs know what heroes are being developed

[tight hill]

Yeah but I’m sure they know the release date and some general changes to the game

[hot heart]

I think if OW reveals the new heroes ay blizzcon that'll be the first time OWL orgs will know about them too

It won't be until around the release of the game that OWL will be informed of these heroes and maps

Or they just won't be informed

Who knows

[balmy wolf]

wait guys wth happened with ans

[earnest leaf]

He retired

[silk frost]

For his mental health

[hot heart]

I don't think anyones gonna argue against that

He threw at times

Especially oasis

That whole map was him throwing over and over

But other times

He saved shanghai's asses in fights

[hexed kestrel]

i think ameng is our lord and savior

[dusk stream]

meh

[feral zodiac]

Is a lower dpi faster?

[tawdry hamlet]

Higher is faster but most adjust their sensitivity in game so it evens out and I haven't seen anyone pro go over 3200 dpi

Diya uses 3200 according liquidpedia but it's probably old since most on there are

As someone using 800 4 in game is the exact same as using 3200 1

There is like minor differences in adjustments sometimes if you use a weird number for dpi since it might be scaled up and not native but it's not usually noticeable by the average user

At least that's what I have read

But 800 4 is twice as fast as 400 4 yes

[plush grail]

too long, not gonna read 😎

[tawdry hamlet]

Fair

Most of my messages are

[tropic herald]

https://twitter.com/shanghaidragons/status/1349237002605113344?s=21

Shanghai Dragons (@ShanghaiDragons)

[NeXT Cup 2021]

We're not done for the off-season, here's our next challenge!

Teams:
@ShanghaiDragons
@SeoulDynasty
@GZCharge
@DallasFuel

Schedule (CST):
1st group round: 1/23-24
2nd group round: 1/29
Finals: 1/30

https://t.co/BVg6JMMMkO

#ShanghaiDragons #Breakthrough

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Twitter · Jan 13, 2021, 6:09 AM

Dallas APAC?

[tawdry hamlet]

Hype

Finally a true apac comparison

Now if only decay could still be on Dallas so I could see decay vs fits like I've always wanted 😫

[feral zodiac]

Decay vs diem :(

Have new dallas played in anything yet?

[tropic herald]

No

[plush grail]

Either the dallas players are still in APAC because their homes are there

Or they're legit becoming a APAC team

[balmy wolf]

no

[plush grail]

If that happens APAC is gonna be stacked

[balmy wolf]

they still na

hastr0 said that

[plush grail]

Sad

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean I'd prefer them na since it's just going to be a shock 3 peat without them

I don't think glads have the dps line to beat shock and shock also has the top tier tank line on top of that advantage

[plush grail]

BUT

Shock has a shaky dps line

[tawdry hamlet]

Idk I don't want a shock 3 peat but the odds it happens are insanely high

[plush grail]

The only shock veteran is striker

Dps at least

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah losing ans will hurt them but glister is upper mid tier from what I remember and they have someone for any scenario

[plush grail]

Yeah but if they make finals

Will someone like glister be able to compete with fleta, profit or xxi?

[tawdry hamlet]

I think dallas dps line is missing a few important heroes

Sparkle is kind of inflexible and Doha is projectile right?

[plush grail]

Yeah that's a problem alit of people have with them

If tracer becomes meta

[tawdry hamlet]

Who will they play in sniper tracer metas

Yeah

[plush grail]

Who plays her

[tawdry hamlet]

I know sparkle played sombra some but I don't remember if it was any good

[plush grail]

I'm sure one of the 3 has a decent tracer

But it'll be less good for sure

[tawdry hamlet]

I think Xzi does if I recall but I don't really remember since soon always did it

[plush grail]

Yeah paris was kinda like dallas

[tawdry hamlet]

I'd imagine sparkle would do it though since he played stuff like sombra for paris

[plush grail]

With the proper meta they were amazing

In summer showdown

With a meta that doesn't really favor them

The just die

[tawdry hamlet]

Yeah Soon had a decent tracer and Ashe and Xzi had an insane widow and they had an insane genji but in other metas they just kind of died

Idk how I feel about soon, he's decent all around but he's not exceptional on any hero

His tracer is nice tho

[plush grail]

Dallas just threw money to big players

Not looking too much at hero pools

[tawdry hamlet]

The decay situation is such a dallas thing to happen lmao, have disagreements and drop your carry player

[plush grail]

The fuel cycle of pain continues

[plush light]

Hanbin is the tracer player lmao

[feral zodiac]

You guys really sleeping on tay1o

[tawdry hamlet]

I mean what does he do that glister can't do better tho

Or nero

[plush grail]

He's been on shock for like 6 months

[feral zodiac]

Genji ez

[plush grail]

And has seen like 2 maps of playtime

He didn't even play genji

During the genji meta

[tawdry hamlet]

When is genji ever meta tho

Besides that one stoopid buff

[feral zodiac]

L

I mean, crusty must be keeping him for a reason

Also, birdring gonna pop off again this year

[plush grail]

your predictions worry me

They're like

Sideshow level predictions

[feral zodiac]

Vancouver top 5

Shock 3rd

Ez

Fuel go unbeaten

[tawdry hamlet]

Sideshow predictions lmao

I think reinforce is my favorite of the casting crew

He seems to know what's up

[feral zodiac]

What is wrong with the birdring prediction???

[plush light]

Pure flex between projectile and hitscan, like rascal did in s1

[tawdry hamlet]

Man thinking about shockwave and how he went to a team that already has a top tier hitscan

He could've been so dope on shock 🥺

[plush light]

In all honesty, sparkle or xzi is gonna play tracer, depending on the meta

[tawdry hamlet]

Probably, hopefully Xzi plays double duty widow and tracer well like decay does

[plush light]

Its just hitscan

Tracer widow ashe mcree soldier is the job of a hitscan

[cedar oasis]

Your hitscan can get burned out tho

[trail perch]

Doha played Ashe last year