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voncouver paris london boston atlanta
nope
I'm curious to how well florida will do
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ripa pog

ATL have a top tier dps line in edison and pelican and a mediocre tank and support line
Ir1s looked good though
Sharp isn't that bad either
but edison is a little underwhelming I would put them slightly below top tier
if they had been able to keep erster edison and pelican they would potentially have the best dps of the season
Not there yet
but probably too expensive
Ye
I mean jesus
Imagine a dps line consisting of erster Pelican and someone like diem
shame they weren't able to keep erster and drop sharp and cheap out on someone else
would have been nice
but erster probably got a fat offer
from shanghai
Pog ripa
Atlanta sucks
shut up
Their coaching is gold players
Lol atlanta better than valiant
Gator is only good on sigma
masaa is the worst player
Masaa I think is alright but I never see him shine, I think main supports never look good on unsuccessful teams
on the team
I think hawk is the worst
nah
Hmm
imo
Unpopular opinion Saucy wasnt that bad, he had the misfortune of hopping on the burning ship that was 2020 atlanta
I mean, idk, that 4 minute tire and then next round soon getting tire in 28 seconds lmao
hes hitscan on projectile thats just unfair
idk what they tried to do
So when they threw him on proj I was vry confused
catvibe is too fast
ripa
Ngl, i thought London were gonna just announce the full roster
Highly likely
The London Spitfire have announced the departure of main support Tae-hoon "FuZe" Kim.
Sadly, tonight, we must also say goodbye to @ow_fuze. Thank you to Fuze for keeping us in the fight throughout 2020 - we wish you the best of luck in the future!
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looks like kellex is getting in the league again

Fuze gon, I'm shocked I tell you
Ok so maybe they will announce more today
Let's go kellex

wait so they ended up dropping fuze lmao
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Who teru?
O2 blast flex dps
Pog
I wonder if Titans have the proper infrastructure for a mixed roster
The question is, will linkzr be stuck on hitscan? If you recall, he is a flex dps with a good widow
linkzr is hitscan
Look at pre-owl games and his stream. He is a flex dps
He's hitscan for owl lol
When he is mainly playing widow/ashe/cree in OWL
he is hitscan
he can play some other heroes doe
Also OWL players want to practice other heroes or just relax on ladder, so they aren't gonna perma tryhard on their best heroes
That is like saying that glister or Ta1yo is hitscan
ta1yo is hitscan
Or that Dalton is flex
strange pickup
glister too
Ok so you're just trolling at this point lol
dalton is a hitscan
Super is a flex dps player 🙂
For OWL purposes, Linkzr is a hitscan
What i am saying is that just because a player is forced to play a role does not mean that is their best role.
If flex is his best role than why do teams keep signing other flex dps to play flex and have him on hitscan?
Because Houston coaching is ass
no because he is better at hitscan
it's literally irrelevant
which heroes are your best
he wasn't the best genji on houston
it was blase
you dont play your second best genji player
They actually played danteh on sombra and linkzr on genji.
Also, hydration was their best genji
Is it just be, or was fl0w3r the biggest disappointment in owl
Holy fucking shit I predicted that Fuze would stay with them
lemme ask you a question
Ooh
Why tf are Koreans joining Vancouver again tho
why is anyone joining vancouver
All we can hope is that management got better
Doubt it
The free housing probably seals it for a lot of people
Don't have 2 pay rent/mortgage and u get a solid wage
its just u
who was a bigger disappointment?
I wish instead of random trinkets that owl teams had custom key caps or mice
Kaiser didn't get in owl..
Ye ik, wasn't sure if they meant disappointing as in they didn't make it into the league
Diya... 😔
Diya ;-;
you forgot Adamas Esports Training + Performance
https://youtu.be/tLOAVfofkmw NA > EU
second place irrelevant 🗿
so NA was better than APAC last year?
I disagree that NA is better than APAC/EU
I think Exo, sheer cold, and New Kings would all shitstomp DarkMode, Uprising Academy, and Revival or whatever the 5th best NA team is
Meanwhile
which region wins
Team CC having an incubator moment
wdym
AND FUCKING DIYA
Crime
Meanwhile runaway probs 4-0s everyone lmao
inb4 Team CC strikes back
is TTuba playing for Justice next season?
Yes
According to sources, Former Dallas Fuel DPS player Timo "Taimou" Kettunen, is expected to sign with Entropiq Valorant.
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glad he found
2020 was Diya/CC doing "a new hope"
2021 is Korea Strikes Back, where Runaway comes in and blasts everything
2022 Return of the China, who wins OWL
I think rn china is the strongest region in ow
I believe the general order for regions is China Korea EU NA with certain teams in each regions being outliers
this is for contenders
Currently I think china is strongest because team cc but overall Korea is easily the strongest overwatch region of all time
Literally like 90 percent of the league is korean

I dont even believe its a stretch that China has been this good for a while
Just a lot of people in denial
Korea is better tho
i'd think theyre pretty equal
Imagine all the Korean teams back in contenders like runaway element mystic lunatic hai
not sure lunatic hai could compete anymore
There has been 3 of these this year
CC won 2 of them and were the runner ups of 1
Have any members of cc been picked up
imagine not getting all picked up
if someone picked up all of team cc
I could totally see them competing for like a top 5 deadass
I think it's 54% of owl players are korean
Either china or america has the second highest %
What about Au lul
Are there any au players in owl
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adam from valiant is from au I think
Ok so korea is 56%
Then US at 13%
And then china at 11
Sorry china at 8
At least for season 3
Kellex 
damn there is now as many owl players from china as Na
kellex is still wanted for the main healer
the fact that Diya isn't on Chengdu is criminal
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noice
Who would have guessed
Hour
Mhmm
🥺
that wont really fuck up the powerankings
molf would be better
like just out of nowhere drop a massive pickup like libero or fissure or something 😮
would be wildn
cause synergy and language
YES! YES! YES! YES!
I think washington can easily be top 4 na if they get rascal
Which would be better: Glads with GaeBullSsi or Washington with rascal
lowkey think justice has more flexible dps lineup
with a more reliable projectile
but they are very close
depends on if ttuba performs like playoffs ttuba or not
Ttuba has apparently been absolutely fucking
Rolling the best of flex dps players OWL has to offer
If thats the case i wont be sad if they dont pick up rascal or libero
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Ttuba and decay is fucking monstrous
Big boy Molf
Makes me wonder if they'll sign another dps
And have blasè sparkr
And someone else
Danedd has been formally released from hurricane so it seems like he won't join the rest of the team in OWL
imagine your team winning a single match in the finals smh
this post was made by the fusion gang
Let's just hope ttuba performs super well
Outside of playoffs and genji meta he looked pretty meh
playoff ttuba meaning ttuba playing better than usual but nothing amazing he was just on a winning team hehe
yea I think with a much better tank line he'll improve quickly
his tracer honestly pretty good
I feel like they should let ttuba grind tracer
let decay take care of widow ashe cree
idk I think decay should cover tracer since jerry would have nothing to do if decay was only hitscan outside of double sniper
jerry just feels so limited since all he has is cree and ashe really
and his ashe is pretty meh
I guess he has reaper too
With decay/fury/mag on the team no lol

that's my point though
Jerry basically needs to not throw
yes
also imo justice's seasons rides on the supports playing up to the level of the rest of the team
he doesn't have to be what Boston wanted him to be
Considering they want to win, I assume they impressed in tryouts
Wdym
Hopefully
isn't devil's advocate like
"hot take"
anyway doesn't matter
I doubt mag will flop
wasn't he like #1 tank prospect last year too just too young
so was roar
Devil's advocate means arguing with someone for the sake of arguing
kellex owl redemption time??
like defending an unpopular opinion
main tanks can suck ass if the support doesn't keep up
also wasn't the deadline for 7 players yesterday
Hope so 🙏
Yeah, they're probs signed just not announced
wasn't it the 7th of january?
its interesting how almost every team is going budget except for spark and chengdu
Ye easily
It is literally just london and paris who have gone budget
Everyone else is powering up
fr fr
houston too not very budget
u could argue nyxl
but they are signing some banger talent
well at least alot of 7 man rosters
its december
R u good
cant wait for dallas to sign muma and bench fearless
Lmao
Dallas are kind of lacking depth though so I do see what u mean
A lot of teams r
But that will probs get sorted over time
It’s tough for teams not to go budget
Especially in today
But I guess China pours money into esports anyways
?
I don't think Dallas are lacking depth lmao
Only 1 main/off tank
depends on your definition of depth
hero pool depth
maybe just tracer
roster depth
a decent amount
I love how seoul's academy team has an academy team, and it has an academy team, of which has its own academy team
Inception
Sparkle has good tracer
.
just realised bdosin isn't in the league
Bdosin washed
Someone give this man a medal
I haven't laughed so hard all year
Ok
I will admit that I only said that because creative was being played over him.
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He'll still be casting for OWL as a freelancer
Given that he’s doing LCK I’d imagine whatever work he does in OWL is limited
does this mean no more owl?
i’m trying to get into the overwatch esports envoirment, i wanna get signed by a team and start playing or at least get into a envoirment with scouts but i don’t turn 18 for another year and a half, how do i get into the environment
First, what’s ur sr
So you’re going to have to look for teams at your sr
where would i look
where do teams compete?
In tournaments generally
If you have higher sr it will be easier to get into better teams
and from there you get recruited by blizzard into league if your good enough?
Yeah, but you have to be really good, like you need to be ~4.3 to be considered for OD teams
Then make contenders by winning a lot of getting picked up directly
Then you have to prove yourself in contenders to be picked up into OWL
london are get the hurricane and blase in the squad

how is it rip london, they still have dps players to sign
two more at least
Was from 2020 releases @sullen berry
ye
They have kellex
Hope wolf and achilios stay, they gave off chill vibes during the apac games
who would've guessed
He is ok
Toyou on seoul will be great for them
they can actually play offtank heroes at a decent level
They should have gone for jjanu though
Jjanu not getting signed is incredibly fucking stupid tbf
It would be perfect because jjanu isn't great at sigma
meko could also be picked up
I assume there were tryouts
Just talk to boston
They would probably sign you
nah i might just be too good and make boston less of a meme 👁️
in all seriousness yall think boston still be the worst next season?
probably not
They'll probably be above london, Vancouver and paris
all teams will be good
I wouldnt be surprised if they put toyou in main tank
yeah they'll prolly be better
"It worked wym"
I'd say as they stand they're on par with Houston
That's on paper tho
Pretty insane how much everyone has powered up though
Gesture Marve1 Toyou
Nice
But tbh
Idk about toyou
He'll be fine
But not great
You really need a star at OT so im concerned
nah he's fine
his dva really synergized well
with like gesture and marve1
in those few games he played
he should grind dva & zarya & new ots
because they will run marve1 sig
Yeah i said he's fine
But do you like
See him even beating poko in a duel
Idk if i do
Idk
probably worse than lige though
I could see him matching poko at times
but we'll see
poko and alarm bromance is stronger that any other offtank partner
You gotta feel bad for jjanu
nah like lowkey
he didn't really wanna play anymore?
so I dont feel that bad
he's gonna retire with stitch
he said he only joined justice in the first place because of stitch soo
Stitch kinda garbage
Playoffs he had all the space in the world
Covid just took alot of the motivation out of it for him and jjanu
stitch was at least mid tier
Because everyone was running away from decay
turned it up in playoffs doe
same
Stitch was only good on ashe
His tracer was meh, his mcree was passable, his widow is nothing special
sure he had some bad performences on a bad team, he also popped off
He was an easy mid tier hitscan
I like stitch, but he just isn't that good
If he played for a better team we would think he is one of the best
the second he had tanks that made space for him he popped offfffff
Anyone who is on shock we would think is one of the best because CRUSTY
You would think, I dont think the crusty diff is that big
crusty diff is humongous
The crusty difference is what made super stop feeding. Can anyone else do that?
I bet crusty could make sideshow Winston owl level if he wanted to
The KDG diff made sado good
The alarm difference made sado good
The moon diff saved s1 valiant and made one of the most dominent teams in owl history
The packing 10 diff made a team of random nobodies into a scary team
The moon difference also benched custa because he was to good
The kuki diff make kris good
There are alot of insane coaches out there
Who work with alot less talent than crusty
and still get results
Why did moon put kariv on dps and kuki on main support
Kariv played dps in s1 and preowl
Everyone who watched his twitch
that wasnt something new
Ans was a figure on KR ladder for ages
Even runaway feared him
He duoed with Whoru for a long time
All with moon as head coach
Remember that clip of Maejaegon and mirage bullying him
Pre owl?
In apex moon put erster on ana over kariv
Mighty AOD
Then he coached the valient to a 2nd place finish and a stage 4 championship
And coached shanghai to one of the best records in history
And one of the most dominent performences in owl
Shanghai had fleta with an ok team
Did the shock have 5 feeders?
Ljg was the best mainsupport all season
One bad appearence in Gf bracket doesnt change that
That would be like saying nenne has a shit zarya bc he missed that one grav in stage 1
That grav was kind of genius tbh
Too bad it didn't work
He was trying of grav a sombra to take away emp
Also nenne is kind of shit
At the moment
moth was better on all main supp heroes
Ljg was only good at brig
that's so wrong
moth's mercy and lucio is so much better
They are not so much better though
He's way to passive
like a bit better
But since ljg is the best brig
Ljg got punished on Lucio against good teams
He was the same, just up against better competition
No
Its like what you can get away with in gold vs masters
If you actually watched any APAC all season instead of just supers stream than you would have seen how he played differently
i just dont think leejaegon is the best main support
Instead of taking someone elses opinion
I watched every apac game
wdym better competition
And every na game
Then your just blind
only better team is shock
Not nyxl
Even chengdu was better than like reign
Philly fucked nyxl
I remember because I was excited and thought nyxl would be the first to beat Philly
I used to like nyxl
No longer
Wynot pog
Everyone hates IMT
#nopinenowin
But he is a number guy now
true
Head of data
it was a close series yes
saying nyxl is worse than philly because they lost to them in like the first month of the season peeplaugh
Imagine playoff profit playing double sniper with peak fl0w3r
I mean moths brig isn’t that good but it’s still not below top ten
Imagine thinking philly has a chance in playoffs
When they beat shock there was hope
Moth is good and has never had a bad game
He is the most consistently good player I've ever seen
he just seems like a good guy
Shouldent philly be known as chokers now
whats good guys
Tmw to you but not jjanu
Nice pfp tymunster
Thanks its the org I coach
For some reason the defiants always brought philly to map 5
Really?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Is pokpo still on reign?
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Hybrid joins
Who dat
Pog

so basically promoting all the BH + blase
Poor danned
gotta wait for SparkR
Will be interesting to see how a full contenders team does in owl
Probs better than boston lul
the other vancouver
boston might not be that bad this season
If the two rumored pick ups are true, even more so
Boston still bottom 5
oh yeah, soon in uprising
Still surprised benbest hasn't been picked up
it was close between him and daan
hybrid 
Oh didn't know. Maybe someone'll pick him somewhere down the line
Daan?
on paris
Ah
Who are they?
Valentine and some other player
faith
yea that's the other
So it would be chex/soon/valentine/stand1/fusions/punk/myunbong/faith
So not bottom tier
Ok wait since we arent going to be getting important news anytime soon
Who do you thing the GOAT of ow is?
I say Profit
multiple candidates
if u say rjh
He's one of them
alarm
idk about rascal
Haksal?
choi maybe
GOAT's shouldn't be defined yet
yes
sinatraa lul
sinatraa won everything
well
if he was also fmvp this season
he would be goat
for now
not the best tracer of the world
profit or haksal has the best claim to it, imo
They where both superstars during Apex
and Owl
Profit being grandfinals mvp twice
and Haksal being rookie of the year
and on the og runaway since the start
2nd places in apex
stage 1 champion
1 in owl
he didn't win owl
Carpe sadge
not even close, carpe on bk stars wasnt anything special
I feel like a player has to be consistently top tier throughout their career to be a goat and not just one or two good seasons like sinatraa
Gotta respect the man still grinding and being always the second
Sinatraa was meh in season 1
Season 2 okay ish
although he was incredibly good he wasn't the best at much outside zarya and maybe doom
Carpe was consistent at least
but zarya being one of the strongest heroes in season 2 helped his case ig
Maybe not so much in season 2
I consider profit the goat rn
The man has been consistently at the very very top of ow for 4 years
And performed
5 years now
5 damn
I'm old
Striker a nominee as well
Gesture?
Tobi has been doing it for a long time as well
Carpe of course
Wait guys I got it
Super
Tbh
Striker carpe and super didnt have pre owl careers
Like sucsess
O
tobi is pretty good
I mean
Carpe was a genji player
Striker was off in never-land with crusty
Super played for Birdnoises
Like we need someone on runaway, lunatic hai, GC Busan Wave, etc.
jehong not having success in owl was like only 35% his fault tbh
Would say fissure if he played this season
Carpe is good but imo I think he's always been just barely a step below diem and ans 
On widow
Not other heroes

Carpe is way more flexible than those two
Imo, gotta be more flexible to be up there as the goat
Smurf up there
I think as just raw flexibility a jack of all trades like fleta should be up there with profit
Not sure who's better flex though
right now pretty tied
Yeah it's pretty close
What all does fleta play? I mostly slept through apac and watched the big matches
fleta
He plays the meta
he plays everything
I only really know echo and reaper and like Hanzo and stuff but what are his best
Name a dps and he can play it in owl
Profit better genji
fleta tracer was also really good
yeah I dont know fleta genji should be really good but in summer showdown liek idk
profit genji good
What is their pharah like?
Fleta didn't play
Profit looked like the best pharah
but that's because
he was like one of the few that played
but he did look very dominant
Hmm
Profit is the best pharah
Then after that like rascal or whoever on shock played her lmao idek
Profit in playoffs got his pharah ult in like 20 seconds though that was pretty nuts
especially for someone playing pharah into ans widow
shock didnt play pharah
except like
on kings row
striker pulled it out for the luls
Bruh moment
I think decay could be a goat contender, a top tier widow and mcree and the ability to drag a team through with zarya
But he doesn't have the track record 
decay is not even close
win something first
if he leads justice to 2 owl titles
then we can talk
Once he wins something he for sure could be up there tho 
About goat, i've heard viol2t thrown out as a candidate
But it's hard to figure one out
we need like 5 more years of owl
Yea
like if in 5 years
choi still one of the best ot? viol2t?
maybe them then
profit gets another fmvp? maybe him
It's funny though how a year or so ago all the people we'd be considering goats are lowkey washed now
Like jjonak 
another thing is most players have stood out for maybe parts of a season or just one season
Like are there any 2017 very beginning owl players that are still around and actually good lmao
void
carpe
he gotta win smt doe
Void in 5 years could be boomer
Linkzr is still decent
linkzr garb
profit?
I feel like if shanghai and seoul flipped records last season there would be like no hesitation to call profit a goat
The 12-12 holds them back 
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Insane. Mechanically gifted. Built different.
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member when sparkr was in this server
good times
and now he's promoted to owl
imagine
mayhem tweet is........ interesting
im not gonna speak on there findings of whos guilty or not but including the @ of the 'victim' is just a stupid move
rip
I can’t believe it, this is the first year where there’s players in owl younger than me and it’s just hit me
wow, you forgot sp9rk1e
Sparkle is older than me
by a year
is anyone here a overwatch player
took them a while to get there
Very cool of them to @ the victim and not the one who's been accussed of anything
This is sarcasm by the way
Probably stepped out of the box for this but I believe it will be a very good idea if this does not get discussed here
Was an analyst for Defiant
from defiant to boston
S1 Florida
Lmao
Flexibility would be an issue and they would end up needing more players
Imagine if season one Florida had nevix
what happened in the Mayhem?
idk pedo incident
uhm.. ok
he supposedly sexually harassing a women
so he went dark
and became an mc youtuber
then mayhem said "oh shit he isn't guilty tho nvm"
This isn’t a topic for here, take it to dms please
I just wanted to know who lol
if it's a player/coach that is important
but fair enough
libero paris announcement when
libero justice
Does mykaylee play tracer and mccree?
Someone explain to me how libero plays genji at 800 and 3.5
striker plays tracer at that
as far as earlier goes, shitty org and that is fax
💩
@plush light I play sombra and tracer at 1600 1.7
In masters
So i can see how
The real question should be how did haksal play genji at 800 and 30
Built different
The real question is how does gido play tracer and genji
And how does lhcloudy live with 1600 and 16
Like the only player higher is a ball player called gun that plays at 1600 and 20
Lhc plays mt so it’s not that bad
Depends on mouse dpi but for reference Ans/diem/a bunch of others play 800 dpi 4 in game sensitivity, this translates to 800 x 4 edpi, which is 3200, then some play at 1600 2 which translates to 3200 as well. With 800 being probably the most common dpi Haksal plays 800 30 which is 800 x 30 which is 24000edpi. The average edpi is 3200-7200 or so range and Haksal plays at 24000 thousand, so in short, yes anything above 10 on console is abnormally fast
I meant pc
Bruh why'd I say console

Basically Haksal and high sense players in general are fucking nuts bro I can barely manage 3760 edpi I play on
Im used to cs tho where low is king
Ah I see
Sensitivities nerd shit 
So 800 x 4 is pretty much exactly the same as 1600 x 2?
Yeah pretty much, I think there are differences in like how the mouse registers movement or something but it should feel the same
But basically to compare sensitivities of players just multiply dpi by sensitivity and compare the number
Higher standard my ass bruh, that's just human decency man 
it interesting how he feels that way
But alas that probably isn't allowed here to be talked about
But shameful org response either way 
like his involvement must have felt important enough to tweet about it
always funny how a communication strategy would put people on the same page
and somehow, you end up with this delivery
Looking back, they @ ed the person in the original tweet announcing he would be put on unpaid suspension
That doesn't sound like mutual agreement to part ways


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