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cedar oasis
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literaly bottom 5

next mesa
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ikr

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lmao

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this man's just said

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top 5

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sus

cedar oasis
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voncouver paris london boston atlanta

earnest leaf
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atlanta will be mid tier again

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iris and pelican will just hard carry

cedar oasis
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nope

earnest leaf
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I'm curious to how well florida will do

tidal ridge
raw ermine
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ripa pog

tawdry hamlet
hot heart
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ATL have a top tier dps line in edison and pelican and a mediocre tank and support line

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Ir1s looked good though

tawdry hamlet
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Sharp isn't that bad either

hot heart
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Ye

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But

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He isnt benching either of them

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Pelican plays everything

tawdry hamlet
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but edison is a little underwhelming I would put them slightly below top tier

hot heart
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Yeah

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Same

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Like

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Potentially could be top tier

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But as it stands

tawdry hamlet
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if they had been able to keep erster edison and pelican they would potentially have the best dps of the season

hot heart
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Not there yet

tawdry hamlet
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but probably too expensive

hot heart
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Ye

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I mean jesus

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Imagine a dps line consisting of erster Pelican and someone like diem

tawdry hamlet
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shame they weren't able to keep erster and drop sharp and cheap out on someone else

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would have been nice

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but erster probably got a fat offer

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from shanghai

vagrant jacinth
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Pog ripa

cedar oasis
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Atlanta sucks

balmy wolf
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shut up

cedar oasis
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Their coaching is gold players

trail perch
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Lol atlanta better than valiant

cedar oasis
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Gator is only good on sigma

balmy wolf
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gator is good on orisa and ball

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other tanks are medium

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hes not bad

trail perch
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Masaa is still very good

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and Lr1s doesnt look bad

balmy wolf
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masaa is the worst player

tawdry hamlet
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Masaa I think is alright but I never see him shine, I think main supports never look good on unsuccessful teams

balmy wolf
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on the team

trail perch
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I think hawk is the worst

balmy wolf
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nah

tawdry hamlet
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Hmm

trail perch
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imo

tawdry hamlet
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Hawk is actually ok I think

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They dropped their main extras

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Which is good

balmy wolf
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hawk is pretty good

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needs coaching

tawdry hamlet
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Dogman and Saucy and fire and frd were all downgrades so good drops

trail perch
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Unpopular opinion Saucy wasnt that bad, he had the misfortune of hopping on the burning ship that was 2020 atlanta

tawdry hamlet
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I mean, idk, that 4 minute tire and then next round soon getting tire in 28 seconds lmao

balmy wolf
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hes hitscan on projectile thats just unfair

trail perch
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Hes not ment to play junkrat

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I really only knew him for his zarya and hitscan

balmy wolf
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idk what they tried to do

trail perch
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So when they threw him on proj I was vry confused

balmy wolf
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yep

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poor man

karmic grotto
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ripa

vagrant jacinth
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Ngl, i thought London were gonna just announce the full roster

slow lodge
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Any Philly fans here?

vagrant jacinth
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Highly likely

tawdry hamlet
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looks like kellex is getting in the league again

vagrant jacinth
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Fuze gon, I'm shocked I tell you

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Ok so maybe they will announce more today

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Let's go kellex

tawdry hamlet
plush grail
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wait so they ended up dropping fuze lmao

raw ermine
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Schwi retired and went to valorant

vagrant jacinth
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Rip fuze/ripa

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And fair, I wasn't that big on schwi

feral zodiac
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I mean, 1 is owl, 1 is ladder player

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯

vagrant jacinth
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Who teru?

earnest leaf
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who

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ah he's from o2 blast

tropic herald
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O2 blast flex dps

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Pog

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I wonder if Titans have the proper infrastructure for a mixed roster

next mesa
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a korean

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joining titans

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he really must have ran out of options

earnest leaf
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hey

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he got a contract at least

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ez money to be bottom 3 in the league

plush light
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The question is, will linkzr be stuck on hitscan? If you recall, he is a flex dps with a good widow

earnest leaf
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linkzr is hitscan

plush light
next mesa
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dont matter now he hitscan now

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bich

earnest leaf
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He's hitscan for owl lol

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When he is mainly playing widow/ashe/cree in OWL

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he is hitscan

next mesa
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he can play some other heroes doe

earnest leaf
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Also OWL players want to practice other heroes or just relax on ladder, so they aren't gonna perma tryhard on their best heroes

plush light
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That is like saying that glister or Ta1yo is hitscan

raw ermine
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teru?

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recognize the name

next mesa
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ta1yo is hitscan

plush light
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Or that Dalton is flex

raw ermine
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strange pickup

next mesa
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glister too

earnest leaf
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Ok so you're just trolling at this point lol

next mesa
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dalton is a hitscan

earnest leaf
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Super is a flex dps player 🙂

tropic herald
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For OWL purposes, Linkzr is a hitscan

plush light
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What i am saying is that just because a player is forced to play a role does not mean that is their best role.

tropic herald
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If flex is his best role than why do teams keep signing other flex dps to play flex and have him on hitscan?

plush light
next mesa
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no because he is better at hitscan

plush light
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linkzr's best heros are widow hanzo genji

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He is flex

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Not projectile, but FLEX

next mesa
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it's literally irrelevant

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which heroes are your best

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he wasn't the best genji on houston

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it was blase

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you dont play your second best genji player

plush light
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Is it just be, or was fl0w3r the biggest disappointment in owl

next mesa
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they put linkzr on widow

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and danteh on genji

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soooooooo

silk frost
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Holy fucking shit I predicted that Fuze would stay with them

raw ermine
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lemme ask you a question

silk frost
vagrant jacinth
silk frost
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Why tf are Koreans joining Vancouver again tho

raw ermine
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why is anyone joining vancouver

tropic herald
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It’s quite simple

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At least 50k for the year with housing

silk frost
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Fair enough

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Its sad that they'll be treated like shit though

tropic herald
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All we can hope is that management got better

silk frost
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Doubt it

feral zodiac
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The free housing probably seals it for a lot of people

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Don't have 2 pay rent/mortgage and u get a solid wage

next mesa
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tragic

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I hope titans dumpsterfire

silk frost
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who was a bigger disappointment?

feral zodiac
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Kaiser maybe?

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Did fl0w3r actually get into owl?

tropic herald
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I wish instead of random trinkets that owl teams had custom key caps or mice

raw ermine
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fl0w3r did

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he hardly played

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despite all the hype

next mesa
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Kaiser didn't get in owl..

raw ermine
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were getting awfully close to another 4 team player

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cmon rascal

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we need you

feral zodiac
next mesa
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Ohh

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DIYA

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Well this season

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DIYA DUDE

vagrant jacinth
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Diya... 😔

silk frost
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Diya ;-;

worn falcon
next mesa
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second place irrelevant 🗿

silk frost
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so NA was better than APAC last year?

next mesa
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yeah

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I mean

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NA team won

silk frost
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I disagree that NA is better than APAC/EU

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I think Exo, sheer cold, and New Kings would all shitstomp DarkMode, Uprising Academy, and Revival or whatever the 5th best NA team is

next mesa
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I just do

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Best team in each region

sullen berry
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Meanwhile

next mesa
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which region wins

sullen berry
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Team CC having an incubator moment

next mesa
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wdym

sullen berry
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Well what's missing

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They had their supports and tanks picked up

next mesa
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oh

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yes

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well superich still there

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but yes

silk frost
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AND FUCKING DIYA

next mesa
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Crime

sullen berry
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Bring back mizuki

vagrant mason
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SEO10k SeoulDynasty Top500 \

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ik

feral zodiac
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Meanwhile runaway probs 4-0s everyone lmao

sullen berry
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inb4 Team CC strikes back

cinder sorrel
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is TTuba playing for Justice next season?

plush light
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Yes

raw ermine
next mesa
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glad he found

silk frost
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2020 was Diya/CC doing "a new hope"
2021 is Korea Strikes Back, where Runaway comes in and blasts everything
2022 Return of the China, who wins OWL

trail perch
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I think rn china is the strongest region in ow

tropic herald
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I believe the general order for regions is China Korea EU NA with certain teams in each regions being outliers

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this is for contenders

cedar oasis
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Literally every good Korean contenders team goes to owl

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Or most of their members

tawdry hamlet
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Currently I think china is strongest because team cc but overall Korea is easily the strongest overwatch region of all time

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Literally like 90 percent of the league is korean

trail perch
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Also billibilli stomped on korean teams

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And FFF

tropic herald
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I dont even believe its a stretch that China has been this good for a while

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Just a lot of people in denial

cedar oasis
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Korea is better tho

primal minnow
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i'd think theyre pretty equal

cedar oasis
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Imagine all the Korean teams back in contenders like runaway element mystic lunatic hai

digital cloud
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not sure lunatic hai could compete anymore

cedar oasis
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Yea but runaway

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Element mystic

digital cloud
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they probably could

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the young talent is pretty insane now though

tropic herald
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There has been 3 of these this year

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CC won 2 of them and were the runner ups of 1

cedar oasis
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Have any members of cc been picked up

tropic herald
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Gaga Lige and 1987

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To Chengdu Hangzhou and Chengdu respectively

next mesa
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imagine not getting all picked up

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if someone picked up all of team cc

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I could totally see them competing for like a top 5 deadass

cedar oasis
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Idk

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Apac is stacked

feral zodiac
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I think it's 54% of owl players are korean

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Either china or america has the second highest %

silk frost
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Probably China

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Between Spark, Hunters, and Charge

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Plus Shanghai too now

next mesa
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well

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oh yeah dragons have molly now

cedar oasis
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Are there any au players in owl

worn falcon
cloud latch
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adam from valiant is from au I think

silk frost
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Ok so korea is 56%

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Then US at 13%

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And then china at 11

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Sorry china at 8

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At least for season 3

next mesa
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will be more

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there's been like

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5 more right

vagrant jacinth
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Kellex PogChimp

wanton birch
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damn there is now as many owl players from china as Na

hidden vault
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kellex is still wanted for the main healer

silk frost
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the fact that Diya isn't on Chengdu is criminal

vagrant jacinth
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Absolutely

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An 11 man Chinese roster with no Diya, I weep

noble nexus
raw ermine
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noice

cedar oasis
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Who would have guessed

feral zodiac
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Hour

next mesa
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very big surprise signing

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no one saw this coming smh

earnest leaf
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Mhmm

tawdry hamlet
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🥺

raw ermine
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what next?

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molfig?
lol

earnest leaf
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Molf next?

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Since they did two supps, now two tanks

tawdry hamlet
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I pray for a surprise signing that fucks power rankings

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but it won't happen 😦

raw ermine
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meko to london

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lol

next mesa
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that wont really fuck up the powerankings

raw ermine
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molf would be better

tawdry hamlet
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like just out of nowhere drop a massive pickup like libero or fissure or something 😮

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would be wildn

raw ermine
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cause synergy and language

next mesa
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fr

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makes no sense to sign korean player

raw ermine
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rascal

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now thats a signing

vagrant jacinth
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YES! YES! YES! YES!

tawdry hamlet
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I think washington can easily be top 4 na if they get rascal

cedar oasis
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they are already top 4 without rascal

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decay is built different

balmy wolf
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mag fury decay rascal holy

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actually no2 team

wanton birch
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Which would be better: Glads with GaeBullSsi or Washington with rascal

balmy wolf
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idek

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glads have better supps i think

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wash tanks are better tho

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dps are equal

tawdry hamlet
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lowkey think justice has more flexible dps lineup

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with a more reliable projectile

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but they are very close

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depends on if ttuba performs like playoffs ttuba or not

hot heart
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Ttuba has apparently been absolutely fucking

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Rolling the best of flex dps players OWL has to offer

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If thats the case i wont be sad if they dont pick up rascal or libero

tropic herald
hot heart
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Ttuba and decay is fucking monstrous

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Big boy Molf

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Makes me wonder if they'll sign another dps

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And have blasè sparkr

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And someone else

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Danedd has been formally released from hurricane so it seems like he won't join the rest of the team in OWL

visual cloud
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imagine your team winning a single match in the finals smh

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this post was made by the fusion gang

earnest leaf
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Let's just hope ttuba performs super well

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Outside of playoffs and genji meta he looked pretty meh

next mesa
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He was improving at least

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playoff ttuba (?)

tawdry hamlet
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playoff ttuba meaning ttuba playing better than usual but nothing amazing he was just on a winning team hehe

earnest leaf
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yea I think with a much better tank line he'll improve quickly

tawdry hamlet
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he played tracer I think idek

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lmao

next mesa
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his tracer honestly pretty good

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I feel like they should let ttuba grind tracer

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let decay take care of widow ashe cree

tawdry hamlet
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idk I think decay should cover tracer since jerry would have nothing to do if decay was only hitscan outside of double sniper

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jerry just feels so limited since all he has is cree and ashe really

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and his ashe is pretty meh

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I guess he has reaper too

next mesa
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Idk

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his ashe was really popping in the playoffs

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well

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on boston for like 2 matches

limber pine
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devil's advocate

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Jerry doesn't have to be the carry

next mesa
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well no

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it's gonna be decay

earnest leaf
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With decay/fury/mag on the team no lol

next mesa
limber pine
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that's my point though

earnest leaf
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Jerry basically needs to not throw

limber pine
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yes

earnest leaf
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also imo justice's seasons rides on the supports playing up to the level of the rest of the team

limber pine
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he doesn't have to be what Boston wanted him to be

feral zodiac
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Considering they want to win, I assume they impressed in tryouts

next mesa
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is that a devil's advocate doe

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yes

feral zodiac
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Wdym

cedar oasis
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mag needs to be good aswel

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and not flop like roar

feral zodiac
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Hopefully

next mesa
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isn't devil's advocate like

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"hot take"

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anyway doesn't matter

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I doubt mag will flop

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wasn't he like #1 tank prospect last year too just too young

cedar oasis
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so was roar

raw ermine
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Devil's advocate means arguing with someone for the sake of arguing

plush grail
next mesa
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like defending an unpopular opinion

plush grail
next mesa
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also wasn't the deadline for 7 players yesterday

vagrant jacinth
next mesa
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london still got like

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5

vagrant jacinth
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Yeah, they're probs signed just not announced

plush grail
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wasn't it the 7th of january?

next mesa
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idk based on liquipedia

vagrant jacinth
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It was 4th of jan

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Ow 2 will release before London announce their roster

worn falcon
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so london is basically getting BH?

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  • blasé
plush grail
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its interesting how almost every team is going budget except for spark and chengdu

next mesa
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idk

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wouldn't call dallas going budget 🗿

feral zodiac
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It is literally just london and paris who have gone budget

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Everyone else is powering up

next mesa
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fr fr

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houston too not very budget

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u could argue nyxl

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but they are signing some banger talent

plush grail
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well at least alot of 7 man rosters

feral zodiac
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It is sort of

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January

plush grail
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its december

feral zodiac
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R u good

plush grail
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cant wait for dallas to sign muma and bench fearless

feral zodiac
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Lmao

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Dallas are kind of lacking depth though so I do see what u mean

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A lot of teams r

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But that will probs get sorted over time

slow kraken
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It’s tough for teams not to go budget

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Especially in today

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But I guess China pours money into esports anyways

feral zodiac
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?

vagrant jacinth
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I don't think Dallas are lacking depth lmao

feral zodiac
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Only 1 main/off tank

raw ermine
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depends on your definition of depth

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hero pool depth

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maybe just tracer

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roster depth

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a decent amount

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I love how seoul's academy team has an academy team, and it has an academy team, of which has its own academy team

white verge
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Inception

plush light
trail perch
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Also doha can play ashe

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just btw

tawdry hamlet
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Doha genji monkaS

normal bramble
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.

raw ermine
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just realised bdosin isn't in the league

plush light
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Bdosin washed

plush light
next mesa
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Bdosin not washed

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He's crusty approved

plush light
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Ok
I will admit that I only said that because creative was being played over him.

next mesa
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true true

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creative might be up and coming i dont know man

vagrant jacinth
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Ah I didn't realise

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Now I'm sad

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Save bdosin

tropic herald
forest raven
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He'll still be casting for OWL as a freelancer

tropic herald
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Given that he’s doing LCK I’d imagine whatever work he does in OWL is limited

digital cloud
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curse you owl, for letting this man go

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so to speak

worn falcon
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does this mean no more owl?

worn falcon
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Well more like limited casting

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Sadge

limber monolith
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i’m trying to get into the overwatch esports envoirment, i wanna get signed by a team and start playing or at least get into a envoirment with scouts but i don’t turn 18 for another year and a half, how do i get into the environment

tropic herald
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First, what’s ur sr

limber monolith
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pushing master

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diamond right now

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wait no

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plat sorry

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plat pushing diamond

tropic herald
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So you’re going to have to look for teams at your sr

limber monolith
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where would i look

tropic herald
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Other ow servers should have stuff similar

limber monolith
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where do teams compete?

tropic herald
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In tournaments generally

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If you have higher sr it will be easier to get into better teams

limber monolith
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and from there you get recruited by blizzard into league if your good enough?

tropic herald
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Yeah, but you have to be really good, like you need to be ~4.3 to be considered for OD teams

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Then make contenders by winning a lot of getting picked up directly

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Then you have to prove yourself in contenders to be picked up into OWL

limber monolith
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i see

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thanks

hexed kestrel
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london are get the hurricane and blase in the squad

hazy stream
sullen berry
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two more at least

hazy stream
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Was from 2020 releases @sullen berry

plush grail
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Rip london

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Not having fuze anymore is a big loss

hazy stream
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ye

plush light
vagrant jacinth
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Hope wolf and achilios stay, they gave off chill vibes during the apac games

noble nexus
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who would've guessed

plush light
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He is ok

noble nexus
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Toyou on seoul will be great for them

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they can actually play offtank heroes at a decent level

plush light
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They should have gone for jjanu though

noble nexus
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Jjanu not getting signed is incredibly fucking stupid tbf

plush light
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It would be perfect because jjanu isn't great at sigma

plush grail
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meko could also be picked up

feral zodiac
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I assume there were tryouts

next mesa
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YEAH

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BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

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toyou is awesome

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SEOUL S READY

plush grail
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seoul has sbb

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ofc they're ready

gray steppe
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guys wanna hear a joke

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I wanna go pro in overwatch in 2021

plush light
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They would probably sign you

gray steppe
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nah i might just be too good and make boston less of a meme 👁️

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in all seriousness yall think boston still be the worst next season?

feral zodiac
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No

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With soon, stand1 and im37 coming in

raw ermine
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probably not

feral zodiac
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They'll probably be above london, Vancouver and paris

raw ermine
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all teams will be good

next mesa
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I wouldnt be surprised if they put toyou in main tank

raw ermine
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yeah they'll prolly be better

next mesa
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"It worked wym"

feral zodiac
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I'd say as they stand they're on par with Houston

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That's on paper tho

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Pretty insane how much everyone has powered up though

hot heart
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Gesture Marve1 Toyou

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Nice

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But tbh

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Idk about toyou

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He'll be fine

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But not great

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You really need a star at OT so im concerned

next mesa
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nah he's fine

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his dva really synergized well

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with like gesture and marve1

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in those few games he played

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he should grind dva & zarya & new ots

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because they will run marve1 sig

hot heart
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Yeah i said he's fine

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But do you like

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See him even beating poko in a duel

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Idk if i do

next mesa
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yes

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def

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good potential

hot heart
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Idk

next mesa
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probably worse than lige though

hot heart
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I could see him matching poko at times

next mesa
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but we'll see

hot heart
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But never better than poko

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Who knows though

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I could be dead wrong

next mesa
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I think poko is not gonna get much better

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but toyou might

raw ermine
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poko and alarm bromance is stronger that any other offtank partner

hot heart
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Yes

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Dude

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That letter

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So wholesome

wanton birch
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You gotta feel bad for jjanu

next mesa
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nah like lowkey

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he didn't really wanna play anymore?

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so I dont feel that bad

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he's gonna retire with stitch

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he said he only joined justice in the first place because of stitch soo

plush light
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Stitch kinda garbage

trail perch
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not rly

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Playoffs he was insane

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And early season pre covid he was cracked

plush light
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Playoffs he had all the space in the world

trail perch
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Covid just took alot of the motivation out of it for him and jjanu

next mesa
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stitch was at least mid tier

plush light
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Because everyone was running away from decay

next mesa
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turned it up in playoffs doe

trail perch
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He literally out dueled ans

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And BQB

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And KSP

next mesa
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I honestly think he's better than jerry

#

I think jerry was a replacement

trail perch
#

same

next mesa
#

because stitch wanted to leave

#

"fuck this shit"

plush light
#

Stitch was only good on ashe

trail perch
#

Early season cree

#

Also stitch is just a good player

plush light
#

His tracer was meh, his mcree was passable, his widow is nothing special

trail perch
#

sure he had some bad performences on a bad team, he also popped off

#

He was an easy mid tier hitscan

plush light
#

I like stitch, but he just isn't that good

trail perch
#

If he played for a better team we would think he is one of the best

#

the second he had tanks that made space for him he popped offfffff

plush light
trail perch
#

You would think, I dont think the crusty diff is that big

next mesa
#

crusty diff is humongous

trail perch
#

Look at shanghai

#

They got along just fine without it

#

So did Philly

plush light
#

The crusty difference is what made super stop feeding. Can anyone else do that?

#

I bet crusty could make sideshow Winston owl level if he wanted to

trail perch
#

The KDG diff made sado good

plush light
trail perch
#

The moon diff saved s1 valiant and made one of the most dominent teams in owl history

#

The packing 10 diff made a team of random nobodies into a scary team

plush light
trail perch
#

The kuki diff make kris good

#

There are alot of insane coaches out there

#

Who work with alot less talent than crusty

#

and still get results

next mesa
#

no

#

crusty is just god

plush light
#

Why did moon put kariv on dps and kuki on main support

next mesa
#

who knew ans was so good

#

no one

trail perch
#

Kariv played dps in s1 and preowl

plush light
trail perch
#

that wasnt something new

#

Ans was a figure on KR ladder for ages

#

Even runaway feared him

#

He duoed with Whoru for a long time

plush light
trail perch
#

Remember that clip of Maejaegon and mirage bullying him

trail perch
plush light
#

In apex moon put erster on ana over kariv

plush light
trail perch
#

Then he coached the valient to a 2nd place finish and a stage 4 championship

#

And coached shanghai to one of the best records in history

#

And one of the most dominent performences in owl

plush light
#

Shanghai had fleta with an ok team

next mesa
#

Ladder is different than owl

#

I thought this was like

#

common knowledge

plush light
#

Fleta only had one feeder on his team instead of 5

#

The one feeder being ljg

trail perch
#

Did the shock have 5 feeders?

#

Ljg was the best mainsupport all season

#

One bad appearence in Gf bracket doesnt change that

#

That would be like saying nenne has a shit zarya bc he missed that one grav in stage 1

plush light
#

He was trying of grav a sombra to take away emp

#

Also nenne is kind of shit

#

At the moment

mental coral
trail perch
#

Brig

#

end of story

plush light
#

Ljg was only good at brig

trail perch
#

Lucio and mercy

#

Lol

next mesa
#

that's so wrong

mental coral
#

moth's mercy and lucio is so much better

next mesa
#

They are not so much better though

trail perch
#

He's way to passive

next mesa
#

like a bit better

trail perch
#

But since ljg is the best brig

plush light
#

Ljg got punished on Lucio against good teams

trail perch
#

and moth like isnt even top 10

#

Ljg wasnt the same in playoffs

plush light
trail perch
#

No

plush light
#

Its like what you can get away with in gold vs masters

trail perch
#

If you actually watched any APAC all season instead of just supers stream than you would have seen how he played differently

mental coral
#

i just dont think leejaegon is the best main support

trail perch
#

Instead of taking someone elses opinion

plush light
#

I watched every apac game

next mesa
#

wdym better competition

plush light
#

And every na game

trail perch
#

Then your just blind

next mesa
#

only better team is shock

trail perch
#

Also apac overall better than NA

#

NYXL and Guangzhou where def philly level

plush light
trail perch
#

Even chengdu was better than like reign

plush light
#

Philly fucked nyxl

trail perch
#

In week like 5 lol

#

and wasnt it a close series?

plush light
#

I remember because I was excited and thought nyxl would be the first to beat Philly

#

I used to like nyxl

#

No longer

mental coral
#

IMT kinda ruined nyxl

#

im happy for whynot

trail perch
#

Wynot pog

cedar oasis
#

Everyone hates IMT

plush light
#

#nopinenowin

cedar oasis
#

But he is a number guy now

mental coral
#

true

cedar oasis
#

Head of data

mental coral
#

bring back pine

#

he was cracked out of his mind

next mesa
#

it was a close series yes

#

saying nyxl is worse than philly because they lost to them in like the first month of the season peeplaugh

plush light
#

Imagine playoff profit playing double sniper with peak fl0w3r

wanton birch
#

I mean moths brig isn’t that good but it’s still not below top ten

cedar oasis
#

Imagine thinking philly has a chance in playoffs

#

When they beat shock there was hope

plush light
#

Moth is good and has never had a bad game

#

He is the most consistently good player I've ever seen

mental coral
#

he just seems like a good guy

cedar oasis
#

Shouldent philly be known as chokers now

silk eagle
#

whats good guys

silk frost
#

Tmw to you but not jjanu

hot heart
#

Nice pfp tymunster

silk frost
#

Thanks its the org I coach

slow kraken
#

For some reason the defiants always brought philly to map 5

silk frost
#

Really?

normal bramble
#

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

gilded dagger
#

Is pokpo still on reign?

#

Hybrid joins

cedar oasis
#

Who dat

raw ermine
#

british hitscan dps

#

played on doge a while ago

vagrant jacinth
#

Pog

tawdry hamlet
worn falcon
#

so basically promoting all the BH + blase

tawdry hamlet
#

Minus danned

#

Plus hybrid

feral zodiac
#

Poor danned

worn falcon
#

gotta wait for SparkR

feral zodiac
#

Will be interesting to see how a full contenders team does in owl

#

Probs better than boston lul

worn falcon
#

remember vancouver?

feral zodiac
#

That was Korean contenders though

#

Not eu lul

worn falcon
#

the other vancouver

feral zodiac
#

Ohhhh

#

Ye that was a mish mash of teams tho

earnest leaf
#

boston might not be that bad this season

#

If the two rumored pick ups are true, even more so

cedar oasis
#

Boston still bottom 5

worn falcon
#

i am kinda sad for the veterans though

#

rascal, libero, mek0, soon, benbest, rjjh

raw ermine
#

soon got a team

#

but the others yeah

#

at least rascal will

worn falcon
#

oh yeah, soon in uprising

vagrant jacinth
#

Still surprised benbest hasn't been picked up

next mesa
#

it was close between him and daan

karmic grotto
#

hybrid pog

vagrant jacinth
#

Oh didn't know. Maybe someone'll pick him somewhere down the line

feral zodiac
next mesa
#

on paris

feral zodiac
#

Ah

feral zodiac
earnest leaf
#

Valentine and some other player

next mesa
#

faith

earnest leaf
#

yea that's the other

#

So it would be chex/soon/valentine/stand1/fusions/punk/myunbong/faith

#

So not bottom tier

trail perch
#

Ok wait since we arent going to be getting important news anytime soon

#

Who do you thing the GOAT of ow is?

#

I say Profit

next mesa
#

multiple candidates

trail perch
#

if u say rjh

next mesa
#

He's one of them

worn falcon
#

alarm

next mesa
#

also profit

#

maybe miro just because of the winston impact

#

sinatraa

#

striker maybe

trail perch
#

Alarm? When he was MT on BK stars?

#

Sinatraa?

noble nexus
#

Rascal?

#

Rascal is very epic gamer

next mesa
#

idk about rascal

trail perch
#

Haksal?

next mesa
#

choi maybe

raw ermine
#

GOAT's shouldn't be defined yet

next mesa
#

yes

worn falcon
#

sinatraa lul

next mesa
#

sinatraa won everything

#

well

#

if he was also fmvp this season

#

he would be goat

#

for now

worn falcon
#

not the best tracer of the world

trail perch
#

profit or haksal has the best claim to it, imo

#

They where both superstars during Apex

#

and Owl

#

Profit being grandfinals mvp twice

#

and Haksal being rookie of the year

#

and on the og runaway since the start

next mesa
#

not haksal

#

he basically only has a contenders title

#

multiple second place finishes

trail perch
#

2nd places in apex

next mesa
#

stage 1 champion

trail perch
#

1 in owl

next mesa
#

he didn't win owl

trail perch
#

2nd place in owl

#

2nd place in stage 2

#

1st in stage 1

worn falcon
#

Carpe sadge

trail perch
#

not even close, carpe on bk stars wasnt anything special

noble nexus
#

I feel like a player has to be consistently top tier throughout their career to be a goat and not just one or two good seasons like sinatraa

worn falcon
#

Gotta respect the man still grinding and being always the second

#

Sinatraa was meh in season 1

#

Season 2 okay ish

noble nexus
#

although he was incredibly good he wasn't the best at much outside zarya and maybe doom

worn falcon
#

Carpe was consistent at least

noble nexus
#

but zarya being one of the strongest heroes in season 2 helped his case ig

worn falcon
#

Maybe not so much in season 2

feral zodiac
#

I consider profit the goat rn

#

The man has been consistently at the very very top of ow for 4 years

#

And performed

trail perch
#

5 years now

feral zodiac
#

5 damn

#

I'm old

#

Striker a nominee as well

#

Gesture?

#

Tobi has been doing it for a long time as well

#

Carpe of course

#

Wait guys I got it

#

Super

next mesa
#

carpe hasn't won shit

#

win something

#

then we talk

feral zodiac
#

Tbh

trail perch
#

Striker carpe and super didnt have pre owl careers

feral zodiac
#

?

#

Pretty sure super did

trail perch
#

Like sucsess

feral zodiac
#

O

next mesa
#

tobi is pretty good

feral zodiac
#

I mean

trail perch
#

Carpe was a genji player

feral zodiac
#

Didn't team envy have success pre owl

#

Remember

#

Lmao

trail perch
#

Striker was off in never-land with crusty

#

Super played for Birdnoises

#

Like we need someone on runaway, lunatic hai, GC Busan Wave, etc.

feral zodiac
#

Ryujehong?

#

Twilight?

#

Trying to rememeber everyone I can

next mesa
#

jehong not having success in owl was like only 35% his fault tbh

feral zodiac
#

Would say fissure if he played this season

tawdry hamlet
#

Carpe is good but imo I think he's always been just barely a step below diem and ans monkaS

#

On widow

#

Not other heroes

feral zodiac
#

Carpe is way more flexible than those two

#

Imo, gotta be more flexible to be up there as the goat

#

Smurf up there

tawdry hamlet
#

I think as just raw flexibility a jack of all trades like fleta should be up there with profit

#

Not sure who's better flex though

next mesa
#

right now pretty tied

feral zodiac
#

Yeah it's pretty close

tawdry hamlet
#

What all does fleta play? I mostly slept through apac and watched the big matches

next mesa
#

fleta

feral zodiac
#

He plays the meta

next mesa
#

he plays everything

tawdry hamlet
#

I only really know echo and reaper and like Hanzo and stuff but what are his best

next mesa
#

he was a bit uncomfy un hanzo

#

on*

feral zodiac
#

Name a dps and he can play it in owl

next mesa
#

profit better

#

profit better hanzo and tracer

#

fleta better echo mei

feral zodiac
#

Profit better genji

next mesa
#

fleta tracer was also really good

#

yeah I dont know fleta genji should be really good but in summer showdown liek idk

#

profit genji good

feral zodiac
#

What is their pharah like?

next mesa
#

Fleta didn't play

#

Profit looked like the best pharah

#

but that's because

#

he was like one of the few that played

#

but he did look very dominant

feral zodiac
#

Hmm

tawdry hamlet
#

Profit is the best pharah

#

Then after that like rascal or whoever on shock played her lmao idek

#

Profit in playoffs got his pharah ult in like 20 seconds though that was pretty nuts CATJAM especially for someone playing pharah into ans widow

next mesa
#

shock didnt play pharah

#

except like

#

on kings row

#

striker pulled it out for the luls

tawdry hamlet
#

Bruh moment

next mesa
#

striker can play some projectile

#

pharah junk

tawdry hamlet
#

I think decay could be a goat contender, a top tier widow and mcree and the ability to drag a team through with zarya

#

But he doesn't have the track record sadthonk

next mesa
#

decay is not even close

#

win something first

#

if he leads justice to 2 owl titles

#

then we can talk

tawdry hamlet
#

Once he wins something he for sure could be up there tho monkaS

earnest leaf
#

About goat, i've heard viol2t thrown out as a candidate

#

But it's hard to figure one out

tawdry hamlet
#

Violet does literally make zen work by being a nut

#

So that is true

next mesa
#

we need like 5 more years of owl

earnest leaf
#

Yea

next mesa
#

like if in 5 years

#

choi still one of the best ot? viol2t?

#

maybe them then

#

profit gets another fmvp? maybe him

tawdry hamlet
#

It's funny though how a year or so ago all the people we'd be considering goats are lowkey washed now

#

Like jjonak monkaS

earnest leaf
#

another thing is most players have stood out for maybe parts of a season or just one season

tawdry hamlet
#

Like are there any 2017 very beginning owl players that are still around and actually good lmao

next mesa
#

void

earnest leaf
#

carpe

next mesa
#

he gotta win smt doe

earnest leaf
#

jjonak is honestly still decent

#

Super maybe? but he was mediocre at the start

next mesa
#

Void in 5 years could be boomer

tawdry hamlet
#

But bro, Linkzr still around monkaS

#

The true gamer

earnest leaf
#

Linkzr is still decent

next mesa
#

linkzr garb

cloud latch
#

profit?

tawdry hamlet
#

I feel like if shanghai and seoul flipped records last season there would be like no hesitation to call profit a goat

#

The 12-12 holds them back CATJAM

earnest leaf
#

Well Seoul is just 50/50

#

Either they are good or ass

next mesa
#

seoul poopoo coaching

earnest leaf
tawdry hamlet
karmic grotto
#

member when sparkr was in this server

#

good times

#

and now he's promoted to owl

#

imagine

balmy wolf
#

remember endoken?

#

still banned

#

imagine

karmic grotto
#

wasn't he muted

#

last time I heard he was muted

wanton birch
#

mayhem tweet is........ interesting

#

im not gonna speak on there findings of whos guilty or not but including the @ of the 'victim' is just a stupid move

worn falcon
#

endoken still muted

#

apparently he didnt appeal

#

lol

#

he left the server, sadge

balmy wolf
#

rip

tropic herald
#

SparkR still here

#

Proud of him

worn falcon
#

wait, sparkr doesnt play till past june

#

rip

#

because underage

tropic herald
#

I can’t believe it, this is the first year where there’s players in owl younger than me and it’s just hit me

worn falcon
#

wow, you forgot sp9rk1e

tropic herald
#

Sparkle is older than me

worn falcon
#

by a year

cunning rock
#

is anyone here a overwatch player

next mesa
#

everyone here is

#

awk

raw ermine
#

You'd be hard pressed to find one on the r/Overwatch discord server

#

oh shit

digital cloud
#

took them a while to get there

tropic herald
#

Very cool of them to @ the victim and not the one who's been accussed of anything

#

This is sarcasm by the way

feral zodiac
#

Guess what

#

Wait no

tropic herald
#

Probably stepped out of the box for this but I believe it will be a very good idea if this does not get discussed here

karmic grotto
#

so you are 16? eh, alright then

#

who's barroi

tropic herald
#

Was an analyst for Defiant

karmic grotto
#

from defiant to boston

feral zodiac
#

Lmao

plush light
#

Flexibility would be an issue and they would end up needing more players

#

Imagine if season one Florida had nevix

silk frost
#

what happened in the Mayhem?

next mesa
#

idk pedo incident

karmic grotto
#

uhm.. ok

raw ermine
#

he supposedly sexually harassing a women

#

so he went dark

#

and became an mc youtuber

#

then mayhem said "oh shit he isn't guilty tho nvm"

tropic herald
#

This isn’t a topic for here, take it to dms please

silk frost
#

I just wanted to know who lol

#

if it's a player/coach that is important

#

but fair enough

plush grail
#

libero paris announcement when

silk frost
#

libero justice

plush light
#

Does mykaylee play tracer and mccree?

#

Someone explain to me how libero plays genji at 800 and 3.5

tawdry hamlet
#

striker plays tracer at that

#

as far as earlier goes, shitty org and that is fax

#

OWLFloridaMayhem 💩

trail perch
#

@plush light I play sombra and tracer at 1600 1.7

#

In masters

#

So i can see how

#

The real question should be how did haksal play genji at 800 and 30

obtuse socket
#

Built different

plush light
#

The real question is how does gido play tracer and genji

#

And how does lhcloudy live with 1600 and 16

#

Like the only player higher is a ball player called gun that plays at 1600 and 20

obtuse socket
#

Lhc plays mt so it’s not that bad

feral zodiac
#

Is 16 high on pc?

#

As in, what is 100 like

tawdry hamlet
#

Depends on mouse dpi but for reference Ans/diem/a bunch of others play 800 dpi 4 in game sensitivity, this translates to 800 x 4 edpi, which is 3200, then some play at 1600 2 which translates to 3200 as well. With 800 being probably the most common dpi Haksal plays 800 30 which is 800 x 30 which is 24000edpi. The average edpi is 3200-7200 or so range and Haksal plays at 24000 thousand, so in short, yes anything above 10 on console is abnormally fast

#

I meant pc

#

Bruh why'd I say console

#

Basically Haksal and high sense players in general are fucking nuts bro I can barely manage 3760 edpi I play on

#

Im used to cs tho where low is king

feral zodiac
#

Ah I see

tawdry hamlet
#

Sensitivities nerd shit CATJAM

feral zodiac
#

So 800 x 4 is pretty much exactly the same as 1600 x 2?

tawdry hamlet
#

Yeah pretty much, I think there are differences in like how the mouse registers movement or something but it should feel the same

#

But basically to compare sensitivities of players just multiply dpi by sensitivity and compare the number

feral zodiac
#

So

#

Cloudy plays on like

#

20k

#

Something around there

tawdry hamlet
#

Higher standard my ass bruh, that's just human decency man yep

sullen berry
#

it interesting how he feels that way

tawdry hamlet
#

But alas that probably isn't allowed here to be talked about

#

But shameful org response either way CATJAM

sullen berry
#

like his involvement must have felt important enough to tweet about it

#

always funny how a communication strategy would put people on the same page

#

and somehow, you end up with this delivery

earnest leaf
#

Looking back, they @ ed the person in the original tweet announcing he would be put on unpaid suspension

feral zodiac
#

That doesn't sound like mutual agreement to part ways