esports-discussion

[silk frost]

that's really sad actually

[cedar oasis]

he only shows up on playofs

[silk frost]

I'm sad

[plush grail]

profit is still in our hearts

[cedar oasis]

and in phillys bakck line

[dawn wadi]

I hate loving Atlanta

[true osprey]

i love hating atlanta

[cedar oasis]

imagine loving atlanta

[feral zodiac]

Profit is still here

Also why isn't gesture a notable player wtf

[wanton birch]

who are the best na players in contenders at the moment ?

[raw ermine]

American tornado has a bunch of good players, seeing as they beat British Hurricane

I'd look to there tank line

Sh2pe and Cucumber

[silk frost]

I like s9mm

[balmy wolf]

how old to play overwaTCH ESP

[raw ermine]

to play esports?

the OWL requires a minimum 18 years of age

contenders can be less than 18

I'd imagine its same for trials and open division

[balmy wolf]

frick

im 14

[next mesa]

yeah u can be 14

for contenders

[cedar oasis]

Careful tho

Boston players are not child friendly

[trail perch]

who was the pedo s2

[raw ermine]

There wasn't one s2

s1 was dream

s3 was mouffin

[trail perch]

Maybe odd numbers are pedo seasons

[karmic grotto]

I don't agree with mouffin one, but with the first I do

[silk frost]

you mean Voldemort

[feral zodiac]

I agree with both

[balmy wolf]

hi nice to meet u guys!!!!!!

[vagrant burrow]

Yay ! Onigod back in owl (yes news hit me slow) Happy Norwegian

[next mesa]

turtle

[vagrant jacinth]

Happy new year my owl masters

[next mesa]

Happy new year baby 🎉🎉

[raw ermine]

i got 4 hours

[plush light]

Me to

[raw ermine]

https://twitter.com/i/events/1340754949840334849
me when Boston and Atlanta play next season

Gators at Sooners

Twitter · Dec 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

[raw ermine]

oof iddqd's birthday is today

[sharp fern]

wait seagull was in owl?

[forest raven]

Yes

[sharp fern]

s1 correct?

[forest raven]

Ye

[sharp fern]

when did he leve

[forest raven]

idk

[sharp fern]

because i honestly have no recollection of him ever playing in owl

[trail perch]

All of s1 he was in owl

He played dps and D.va

He left in the off season

He played for the Kyky era dallas fuel

[plush tundra]

Wasnt he like backup player more than active roster?

Seagull I mean

[raw ermine]

Seagull was first a flex dps, then an off tank

he played dva a lot as the main player, as mickie was too aggressive on dva

and mickie was playing brig

[balmy wolf]

seagull got the bench treatment even know he was a serviceable projectile dps at the time

[raw ermine]

cause yknow, akm genji > rascal and seagull genji

happy new year btw every1

[balmy wolf]

yea that was weird

but that dallas was just horrible, tho apparently not bad enough to be dragons or mayhem somehow

[slow kraken]

He retired due to goats

[balmy wolf]

no

he was just tired being a pro

and he had some medical issue that affected him during the season

[tawdry hamlet]

Seagull

Controversial figure go brr

[hot heart]

Seagulls d.va was pretty good

[karmic grotto]

xQc and space had to play together

Wasted chance by the team coach

[feral zodiac]

Seagull was underwhelming

[tawdry hamlet]

How good was xqc? Was he like the best of his time or was he like muma where he's bad but he's popular?

I know he is more personality based but I never watched him back then and he was always fucking suspended for this or that so catching him playing was impossible

[vagrant jacinth]

He was good. Nothing super amazing or anything but he was alright

[balmy wolf]

for a western MT? probs one of the best during his short time in the OWL

which is not saying much

considering muma was one of them

[vagrant jacinth]

I do remember one match vs glads I think where he was dunking on them

Yeah, there were only 12 teams too

[balmy wolf]

s1 in hindsight was just real bad imo

so many garbage teams

[feral zodiac]

Probably the best western winston we've ever seen

But there aren't many western Winstons

[hot heart]

S1 london is the only team that could be mid tier next year

Low to mid tier

[plush light]

Super?

[forest raven]

Calling xqc the best western winston

[vagrant jacinth]

Yep, talent has become incredibly better

[feral zodiac]

Does super play winston?

The only 2 western winston players I remember are muma and xqc

[tawdry hamlet]

I can't name one lowkey

[plush light]

Shredlocked and nomy and numlocked

[tawdry hamlet]

I know super has mid monke but smurf plays so idk

[plush light]

And gator

[forest raven]

Super's monkey is good

Smurf is just a fucking animal

[hot heart]

Yep

I'd bet he could start one monkey on most teams in OWL

[forest raven]

Absolutely

Super would be the starting main tank on at least 75% of teams

[true osprey]

hes embraced monke

[forest raven]

Smurf's 2 best heroes are horse and monkey

Coincidence?

[feral zodiac]

Super would be the starting main tank on every team below the top 6

Oh wait he probs wouldn't start on justice rn

Or dallas

[plush grail]

But super is the finisher

He finishes people

[cedar oasis]

Rien one trick

[plush light]

Super is the shock's new flex dps, right?
He's their gengi specialist.

[cedar oasis]

Yea

They only play him against Boston tho

[trail perch]

But Dallas is prob top 6?

And justice might be number 6

[feral zodiac]

Going off last seasons standings

muze as well would probably be picked over super

[cobalt spoke]

Doesn't justice just have mag

[feral zodiac]

Yeah

Mag will be rookie of the year contender

Unless he seriously underperforms

[cedar oasis]

Like roar

[balmy wolf]

Anyone here ever heard of The Esport Company before?

[cobalt spoke]

No

[earnest leaf]

I want a mt to win mvp

So we get a cool skin for one, besides orisa

[karmic grotto]

same

support and dps getting skins

bs

[tawdry hamlet]

[random relic]

how would i make my ESL team

from scratch

[plush light]

Did you know that unkoe uses a higher sens that pine?
Pine uses 500 at 15
Unkoe uses 800 at 12

LhCloudy uses a higher sens than haksal
Haksal uses 800 at 26.5
LhCloudy uses 1600 at 16

Yes, I am a settings nerd

[karmic grotto]

Bruh

[raw ermine]

1600 at 16 yikes

he wants to hit everyone around in with one swing on rein

[karmic grotto]

[next mesa]

Okay guys

Im not gonna lie

I didn't know crusty was bilingual LOL

[raw ermine]

English and Korean?

He's tweeted in english a lot

[plush light]

Wtf
He coach team korea, which speaks Korean and the shock, which speaks English

[next mesa]

Yes translator

[feral zodiac]

When you are rein precise aim doesn't matter that much

[gilded dagger]

https://twitter.com/T1/status/1345173017131888641?s=19

T1 (@T1)

Welcome to the team, @OW_RoKY!

T1 오버워치 팀을 이끌어갈 "RoKy" 박주성 코치님을 환영해주세요! 팬 여러분들의 많은 관심 부탁드립니다.

We are thrilled to announce that "RoKy" has joined our @PlayOverwatch team as a coach.

#T1WIN #T1Fighting

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Twitter · Jan 2, 2021, 1:00 AM

Oooh

[raw ermine]

so they have 2 main support coaches

not bad

[balmy wolf]

guys can I aske

ask*

when is the next world cup

[feral zodiac]

Probs not gonna be confirmed until covid clears up

[forest raven]

Since when did T1 have an ow team

[sullen berry]

It's formed out of the remains of the Korean Fusion Uni core

[forest raven]

Neat

[inland flare]

Im join TI

[plush light]

You mean na1st

[plush grail]

overwatch esports is serious business

[tawdry hamlet]

[plush grail]

do you ever sleep

[tawdry hamlet]

actually my current schedule is fall asleep anywhere from 4pm-7pm and wake up at 12am so I really don't miss anything atm

is a very annoying schedule but I can't seem to break it

[cedar oasis]

Yes

Kebab burger is very good

Soon there will be some news

Soon

[tawdry hamlet]

London Roster when

[cedar oasis]

Never

Only blase

[tawdry hamlet]

[cedar oasis]

Is London the only team left to announce their players

[tawdry hamlet]

I think so yeah

Oh and rascal/libero I think

But idk if libero gets picked up

[cedar oasis]

He must

Literally top 3

[tawdry hamlet]

Im Guessing philly or justice for them 2

[cedar oasis]

they must

literly the top 2 best flex dps players

[vagrant jacinth]

Announce the roster london

[wanton birch]

who hasnt picked up a full roster yet?

if gaebullssi and rascal dont get signed .......#

[plush grail]

london, nobody cares about you

just announce it

[raw ermine]

RIp Kaiser is FA

[plush grail]

man idk if cheaper fissure is gonna make owl

[raw ermine]

doubt it

not this year

[cedar oasis]

?

fissure is good at monke

[raw ermine]

I meant Kaiser to OWL

[cedar oasis]

That will probably never happen

[silk frost]

and that's just tragic

[trail perch]

I mean Kaiser was good earlier in the year, but yakpung kinda stole the show

[silk frost]

Kaisers been good forever to be fair

[earnest leaf]

I'd imagine if he wanted to coach he could easily get an owl assistant coaching position

since he can speak english and korean fluently

[raw ermine]

Yakpung was the orisa-winston player probably

and ball

which is much more common

[plush grail]

damn if yakpung never benched kaiser

kaiser could have made it onto nyxl

instead of yakpung

he was so close

also isn't kaiser one of the most decorated and well known players who hasnt made owl yet

[grave sail]

kaiser is terrible

[raw ermine]

He had a chance at OWL before s2 started

cause of goats

but after that

it was over

Imagine Jehong to philly

lul

[silk frost]

jehong to spark

[tight hill]

Nooooooooooo

[feral zodiac]

Didn't kaiser fail tryouts because of a teamwork problem

[raw ermine]

kalios is gone as well

[karmic grotto]

Sad

[next mesa]

Spark already got 2 crackheads of fs

Isn't coldest better than mcd

😔 benched

[wanton birch]

spark chengdu strong

people are sleeping on those two

[next mesa]

Still won't be better than shanghai doe

Shanghai still the closest team to shock imo

[feral zodiac]

Dallas possibly

Depends how the team shows up

Glads could be a big hitter now as well

So many teams have seriously powered up for next season, it's pretty exciting

Mag and muze I think are gonna seriously impress

[next mesa]

dallas is less flexible

but we shall see

dps diff

vs dragons

[vagrant jacinth]

On paper, lots of strong contenders

[next mesa]

yes

[balmy wolf]

lots of strong contenders

but only like 4 of them will be consistent top tier imo

[silk frost]

Dallas overrated imo

Xzi and Fearless are really good, so is Hanbin, but everyone else I have questionmarks

[next mesa]

they should just let sparkle grind tracer, keep genji and pharah and let doha handle the rest

[silk frost]

and doom

but otherwise yes

hard agree

[next mesa]

yeah

[normal bramble]

So I don't play overwatch

[next mesa]

maybe new hero

[normal bramble]

😐

[next mesa]

that is projectile

[silk frost]

not to be rude, but why are you talkin here if you don't play OW juan?

[normal bramble]

why not

[silk frost]

like you tryina learn or you just watch or somet;hing like that?

[normal bramble]

tryna learn

[silk frost]

aight pog

ask questions as it goes along I'm ok with answering them

[normal bramble]

I'll start playing it tho

[silk frost]

ok

Doha is like way better than Sparkle imo

his flexibility and intelligence are both noteworthy

[trail perch]

tf

r u on

Like what crack

Like I want some of that strong stuff

Even back on EM Sparkle was better

On all proj heros

Especially genji and doom

Doha doesnt even come close

[silk frost]

I think sparkle is WAY more mechanically skilled, but Doha strikes me as a smarter player

[trail perch]

Ok that makes sense but this phrasing is just a little sus

[silk frost]

fair enough

[hidden vault]

Any specific incidents that doha dod that made you think that way?

[silk frost]

well his flexibility is a big one

and when I think he's super consistent and stable

meanwhile Sparkle is a fragger

feast or famine

doha is never famine

[trail perch]

Also sombra=brains

[balmy wolf]

doesnt help that projectile heroes were under powered the majority of the season

expect when they got big buffs or when echo was 1st released

[jade burrow]

I've only been playing OW for a month/2 months. I have no idea when OWL season begins.

When does it start?

[raw ermine]

Unsure due to the possibility that ow2 might be released

If it's part of s4

[jade burrow]

Dang

[raw ermine]

April

If not

February

[worn falcon]

Im betting on ow2 for like late 2021

While we play regular ow for OWL

[next mesa]

That'd be trash

Tbh

[jade burrow]

I agree

[worn falcon]

Nah, because would makes sense, if released of February it would be hard to be familiar with game modes and new heros, specially if we waiting like 5+

So wouldn't be fair for teams burn the fuck out in 2 months

If is late, they can grind in off-season

[silk frost]

Well if that were the case I'd release beta in February

And full release in april

So OWL players and coaches will be used to game modes and we get it before covid 57

[hot heart]

Sp9rk1e is the literal best player at doom and genji

And a damn good pharah

Other than that

Not great

[earnest leaf]

Haksal genji

[hot heart]

But he's talented enough to learn

[earnest leaf]

[hot heart]

Nah

I think sp9rk1e was matched with or better than haksal

[earnest leaf]

I think haksal was slightly better

[hot heart]

Ye thats fair also

[earnest leaf]

Sparkle just looked a lot better since his team was much better at the meta

[hot heart]

NYXL didnt exactly do him any favours

[earnest leaf]

Sparkle still easily a top 3 genji in the league

actually probably the best now

since haksal is gone

[hot heart]

Yeah

Whos top 3 on genji and doom actually

Sp9rk1e
Eqo
Rascal

?

Idk

Probably missed someone

And for doom

I think there's sp9rk1e at the top

A tier break

Then the rest

It's insane how good his doom is

Haksal and sinatraa are the only two people i can think of to ever play at that kind of level

[earnest leaf]

Blase honestly has a nasty doom

[hot heart]

Yeah

[feral zodiac]

Why u question mark fielder

Man kept up with viol2t whilst on 200 ping

[hot heart]

The only people you could possibly question on dallas are jecse and rapel

Literally everyone else has proven to be top tier or can hit top tier

[karmic grotto]

They can be coached and they're also underrated

[hot heart]

Yep

[vagrant jacinth]

^^

I could see rapel being good. Jecse is the only one im doubting

[tawdry hamlet]

We forgetting profit genji

And Eileen

Rascal genji isn't super special imo

[plush grail]

Eileen is so overrated

[tawdry hamlet]

Eileen is better than eqo wym?

[noble nexus]

Rascal hadn't played genji in weeks and came into a map for the shock and dominated

if Rascal practices that hero enough he's easily top tier

he just has too big of a hero pool to practice all of his heroes consistently I think

[grave sail]

how is eileen overrated

hes so flexible and is an insane player

yet people still rate nero over him

😐

[noble nexus]

Eileen is better than Nero rn

not sure how that comparison will hold up next season with Nero on the shock

[plush grail]

??? how is he better than eqo ???

[grave sail]

eileen is easily better than eqo

eqo genji was bad after ss

and even in ss eileens genji was similar

[plush grail]

i legit never remember eileen being any good

ever

[grave sail]

well then you havent watched eileen

ever

[balmy wolf]

tru

[plush grail]

i watched like every apac game

yall are 🧢

[grave sail]

well then ur blind

[balmy wolf]

ye your blind

youre

[grave sail]

eileen outclassed profit on tracer, destroyed fleta in ss, kept up with lip on sombra, destroyed nenne on hitscan etc.

now he has arachne

MonkaW

[plush grail]

we'll see in 2021

he's gonna be meh again

[grave sail]

he was never meh

lmfao

[plush grail]

charge was only decent during double shields, after that they were meh

[grave sail]

u really think eqo>eileen

what a terrible take

[plush grail]

we're gonna see it happen in 2021, eqo vs eileen

[grave sail]

they were more than decent

and the reason they were meh outside is cuz of terrible coaching and rio not being on orisa

[plush grail]

charge kinda whack

[grave sail]

that charge roster had insane potential

idk what games u watch but charge were very solid until after ss

[plush grail]

yeah some insane potential like neptune and chara

[grave sail]

chara has a lot of potential?

neptuno is shit tho

chara had insane lucio mechanics in t2

and he was arguably the best brig in s3

his mercy was meh tho

[plush grail]

charge bad

[grave sail]

alright

lmfao

u cant argue ur point so u say that

[plush grail]

charge is one of the worst teams in apac

its like

[balmy wolf]

hes trolling at this point

[plush grail]

shanghai - philly / seoul - spark - charge - chengdu

and london and nyxl are wildcards because new teams

im not joking

charge was never good outside of double shields

[balmy wolf]

never the best

like paris

paris was still strong

[plush grail]

yeah, in certain metas only

[balmy wolf]

your take is unreasonable

[grave sail]

charge was solid in dive

but that was mostly down to cr0ng dva

[balmy wolf]

charge was 2nd best all season long

[grave sail]

yeah until the end

where they were shit

[plush grail]

then why did they just fucking flop in the playoffs

the one time when it matters

they just fucking flop

[grave sail]

dude

they were bad in that meta

last season psris bad ig

they flopped when it mattered

paris is terrible

they lost to the 19th plaved justice

[plush grail]

3-0'd by nyxl, im a huge nyxl fan but at the end of the year nyxl was garbage

[grave sail]

lmao

gz and paris the dogshit teams who were both top 5 in the regular season

let me guess seoul is a top 3 team

[plush grail]

seoul might be top 3

it's just kinda seeing if the other contenders click

glads looks good, could be shit

dallas is good, but not flexible

[grave sail]

seoul is not that good

[plush grail]

im just hoping moth leaving the shock made them a little worse, i dont wanna see them win again

[grave sail]

but i cba to argue with someone whos argument is gz bad they flopped in playoffs

[plush grail]

charge overrated

[true hound]

regular season irrelevant when blizzard drops a patch that changes everything right at start of playoffs👍

[tawdry hamlet]

[primal minnow]

seoul top tier team obviously 🙄

[feral zodiac]

Nyxl were still decent

Not the same as they have been for past 2 seasons but they weren't bad lmao

[cedar oasis]

Nyxl were like 7th overall

[sullen berry]

This I can agree on

[sullen berry]

Also proven to be true - once the second shield was missing in the meta, Rio couldn't perform when a clear threat to his hero pool was tested

I hope he can smokes a Chengdoobie so I can see more of his A-Tier Wrecking Ball

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/OverwatchNaeri/status/1345746998167707652?s=20

Naeri X 나에리 (@OverwatchNaeri)

Overwatch New MVP Legendary Skin!

Overwatch New @ow_fleta 2020 MVP Legendary Skin is a Devil and Angel Concept 😈👼

Also, the hero who will receive the new skin is Echo.

🎨https://t.co/2zlsP9FnpY

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Twitter · Jan 3, 2021, 3:01 PM

New echo skin pog

You better start saving up this year

[plush grail]

still so dumb how they wait a full year to release it

[sullen berry]

Define wait

Making a new skin with a fast turnaround is not part of the OWL script

[plush grail]

the fuckin echo skin is probably gonna release right after fleta retires

[cobalt spoke]

They traded the best main support for the 3rd best main support

Nothing changed

Maybe even shock is better

[plush grail]

still i like shock but im kinda tired of them winning

[barren quest]

Well maybe other teams need to improve

[cedar oasis]

Shock is cock

[mint mantle]

i disagree

[next mesa]

shock still favourites

100%

dragons close

glads unproven

we'll see

[vagrant jacinth]

All in all, shaping up to be a very very exciting season

[noble nexus]

the dragons' next season depends on how much Fate improves

Fate is pretty good but he's not Fearless

[vagrant jacinth]

Fearless moving on was a pretty heavy blow

He was super important last season

[hot heart]

Ye

[silk frost]

Crusty is too strong

[tawdry hamlet]

If metas didn't exist and every team just straight played their best heroes I wonder how games would go. Like if sparkle just played genji every game and super played rein 24/7 etc.

There would still be better heroes than others and those would end up winning but in a perfectly balanced world I wonder how it'd be

[next mesa]

Sparkle win

[tawdry hamlet]

Imagine running rein brawl every single owl game and nothing else

One can dream

[cobalt spoke]

I wish

[tawdry hamlet]

Damnnn

[karmic grotto]

?

[cobalt spoke]

Thats real too

[tawdry hamlet]

Bromance vibes

Although hoping contextually it isn't as yikes as it looks lmao

[next mesa]

Would shock be better at dive or double shield

[tawdry hamlet]

Probably double shield, I think peak dive was shanghai s3

[next mesa]

Or rush

[earnest leaf]

Without rascal and moth I would say dive

With moth and rascal, rush all the way

[tawdry hamlet]

Brig zen widow tracer double shield seemed to do really well for them

[earnest leaf]

Granted even now with fdgod they are probably the best rush team

[tawdry hamlet]

[tropic herald]

I think Their double shield would still be best

Viol2t zen

Twilight Bap

[earnest leaf]

Yea

[tropic herald]

Just support diff anyone else

[earnest leaf]

Shock just has the pieces pretty much for each of the styles

[next mesa]

I was thinking more viol2t bap and fdgod/twilight brig

[tropic herald]

If double shield came back it’d be Bap Zen for sure

Zen is broken in this meta

[cobalt spoke]

Nah

[earnest leaf]

Still fucking scary how shock has twilight and viol2t

[tawdry hamlet]

Lowkey violet forced zen meta by being so good

[cobalt spoke]

Brig is a broken ass hero

Dont forget it

[earnest leaf]

the 30% discord is too good rn

Brig isn't even broken rn

[tropic herald]

Brig is good rn Bc she can sit on zen

[earnest leaf]

It's legit zen with bapt/brig/mercy

zen with pretty much anyone but lucio

[karmic grotto]

shock is cheating

[earnest leaf]

or ana

[tropic herald]

Ana Zen can work

Can

[cobalt spoke]

Never has

[tropic herald]

But it’s a super greedy comp

[tawdry hamlet]

Brig is broken in good hands, in most hands she has the rein issue where she's melted before she can get value

Imo

[cobalt spoke]

If you get dived playing zen ana you just lose

And in ball tracer meta theres alot of dive to go around

[tropic herald]

Consider the following

This is Shock right?

[raw ermine]

I wanted to see ana zen in the playoffs meta

[cobalt spoke]

Yea

[raw ermine]

ik mercy ways good

[tropic herald]

Twilight ama

Ana

Viol2t zen

[raw ermine]

but imagine a hog naded then discorded

[karmic grotto]

guess ill die

[cobalt spoke]

Thing is thats just not a good comp, I garuntee you shock probably tried that in scrims and figured it was booty

Also shock has a good enough brig and mercy anyway

So theres nothing to worry about

[tawdry hamlet]

I think that sigma ball tracer echo is great fun to watch but it really makes you wonder what the skill ceiling is when teams like bh have to transition to different comps

[next mesa]

We don't know how is fdgods mercy

Prob like

B tier right now

[cobalt spoke]

Thats all it needs to be

To be better than ana zen

[cobalt spoke]

Hog isnt good, also if ana zen was possible teams wouldve tried it in playoffs

[raw ermine]

hog in the playoffs?

wasn't good?

[karmic grotto]

It was good for a while

[cobalt spoke]

Hog isnt good right now

[raw ermine]

I didn't say rn

[karmic grotto]

But dive is the better comp

[raw ermine]

I said playoffs

[cobalt spoke]

And ana zen wasnt played in playoffs anyway

[tawdry hamlet]

I don't think ana zen would work with shock since violet tends to keep orb on striker and ana would be way more focused on tank heals in most comps

[raw ermine]

Here

[cobalt spoke]

Ohh

Well it wouldnt exist

[cobalt spoke]

Also its just bad, which is why not a single of the 20 teams even tried it

[tawdry hamlet]

still boggles my mind that striker plays on one of the lower sensitivities by league standards and is the best tracer

man moves his arm

[cobalt spoke]

Yea

[tawdry hamlet]

800 3.5 when the average dps is like 800 4-10

or 1600 2-4

like ksp

[solar bison]

Probably has a mile long mousepad

[cobalt spoke]

He does

[solar bison]

A quarantine mousepad

6 feet long

[tawdry hamlet]

like ans plays 800 4 and fleta plays 800 7

and this dude out here on 800 3.5 with a tracking hero

mad man

reminds me of watching haksal on hanzo

21000 edpi and dumpstering gm players

haksal is just a nut

[solar bison]

Too bad he retired

[tawdry hamlet]

haksal was the main retiree I was sad to see go

he is so epic

even if he isn't as good as he once was

[next mesa]

Too bad titans management is like hey I'm gonna do a negative iq move and dissolve the second greatest roster in the league for some shit na contender players

[solar bison]

He was still good

[tawdry hamlet]

yeah, but at this point I would lowkey say sparkle has passed him in genji

[solar bison]

And NYXL just said fuck coaching

[tawdry hamlet]

I want covid to fuck off and die already so we can watch more cross ocean competition again 😦

[solar bison]

Not just that

People with mental problems like Space would probably feel better without Covid

See the fans again

[feral zodiac]

Space has mental problems?

[cobalt spoke]

No

Not those kindof mental problems

Just a bit boomed

[karmic grotto]

Well, if you had bad supports

I would be boomed as well

They can't possibly lose with their new gladiators team

[raw ermine]

Covid booms all

[solar bison]

I sure hope so

[fierce trench]

kk bap op af

[silk frost]

dude the 2021 glads are insane

[tawdry hamlet]

I just hope birdring can keep up

he seems like the only weak link so far

and by weak I mean not top tier

like the rest of team

kevster looks insane and space is high B tier off tank, Moth is top tier main support and shu looks good but I didn't watch him much on charge

Birdring tho, there are a few dps who are just better than him

[next mesa]

space is pretty a tier

[tawdry hamlet]

I meant b if there was no s

a if there is an s lmao

also forgot Mirror existed lmao

[next mesa]

oh yes

[karmic grotto]

XD

[tawdry hamlet]

is he any good?

my man the latvian vietnamese dps who is the only man to play all 3 roles post role lock

king

[lost echo]

The justice has a good tankline, i wish the rest of them didnt suck

[tawdry hamlet]

lmao

[raw ermine]

decay?

doesn't suck

[tawdry hamlet]

I pretend I do not see it

lmao

[raw ermine]

ttuba and jerry are decent, not great

and closer+bebe, maybe suck

[tawdry hamlet]

closer and uh the other guy are just existing

[lost echo]

precisely

[tawdry hamlet]

at least closer won a world title

I think

right

[lost echo]

ttuba is bad

jerry is ok i guess

Who do you guys think was the best echo in the league in season 3

[tawdry hamlet]

Boston coaching never should have picked up jerry

since chex was an equal or better hitscan with like maybe a pharah that they called "flex" and made him play mei

sadge

they should have invested in a better flex and kept chex on hitscan

or a tankline

at least now they have options

TTuba isn't great but he had his moments towards the end

was aimgod any good?

or was he just another nobody support that came and went like Halo and the old glads duo

Shaz uses this mouse and I have never seen it in my life

[next mesa]

aimgod was not on boston though

wait he was

oopsies

[tawdry hamlet]

bruh moment

[next mesa]

he was good?

[tawdry hamlet]

tbh very forgettable team and player so understandable

[next mesa]

🙏

[tawdry hamlet]

kind of annoying Rascal still hasn't been announced 😦

I need to know

they probably have the ability to choose their next team with the amount of offers

like an offer from almost everyone I would imagine

albeit some offers shittier than others lmao

[next mesa]

Titans: "plz rascal we need u"

Rascal: "I would rather eat my own shit lmao"

[tawdry hamlet]

😎

rip dding and luffy 😦

the last bits of mediocrity trimmed from the team and now they sit teamless

a tragic story

molly is such a nice player for shanghai to have

I like it

[next mesa]

Yeah rather molly than luffy

Although honestly luffy is still pretty good

[lost echo]

leejaegon is a genuine plat. cant change my mind

[tawdry hamlet]

Leejaegon was out of his mind in brig days

now he just exists

[lost echo]

On brig? maybe. Not lucio. His lucio is plat

and people think hes better than moth

and they are wrong

[tawdry hamlet]

Brig is his only exceptional hero imo, the rest are just upper mid

[lost echo]

Upper mid, like above average. Like plat

[tawdry hamlet]

https://twitter.com/cyy_ow/status/1343612929883529216?s=19

cyy (@cyy_ow)

Very cool that someone who was featured on the Blizzard launcher leaves the game after getting told to swap off Ana! 😃 https://t.co/PqfWMaGdaE

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Lmao the comments are epic

I forgot a lot of the contenders players are pretty wild on twitter

Tbh forgot how much drama happens between overwatch community members in general lmao

Like everyday there's a new big name overwatch creator "exposed"

[plush grail]

london needs to have a full team in 3 days

did they decide to not promote british hurricane fully or something?

[raw ermine]

Danedd kinda just left

idk if hes going

but molfig,kellex, and sparkr got confirmed by spitfire on twitter

[tawdry hamlet]

molf kellex blase sparkr fuze are all confirmed afaik and then the ones like hybrid that are rumored and halo said something about hadi

[raw ermine]

fuze has been re-signed?

well I guess he hasn't been announced to leave

[feral zodiac]

Esports players in general are weird on Twitter

[fringe bronze]

They just having fun

[solar bison]

Aimgod was good on zen/ana, maybe b tier

He got a lot of damage and kills in

On other healers, he was stuck healing when r0ar fed

[burnt marsh]

toronta diffiant or vancoover titans

?

[raw ermine]

?

which are better?

[burnt marsh]

yea

[plush grail]

both are ass

[raw ermine]

toronto is better

they're mid tier

ik I am a toronto fan

[burnt marsh]

yea

[raw ermine]

but we have a top 4 coach

a top main tank

and solid parts around us

[plush grail]

beast

[raw ermine]

we do have a rookie support line

sado?

[burnt marsh]

paris did good in summer show down

[next mesa]

toronto is so much better

[plush grail]

BEAST

[next mesa]

sado and michelle is good

[burnt marsh]

i like paris

[next mesa]

they have heesu

the best flex support talent coming from contenders

[plush grail]

LOGIX

[raw ermine]

paris dropped all the players and coaches on the team lul

[next mesa]

idk about ansoonjae though

logix is okay

[raw ermine]

logix isn't gonna start over heesu in general

[next mesa]

yeah

[burnt marsh]

Michael “RhynO” Willoughby is godly

[raw ermine]

isn't he a t2-t3 mt?

[burnt marsh]

i think

[plush grail]

idk why toronto even has beast

he's decent

but is he ever gonna play over sado

[next mesa]

he's dogshit

no

[raw ermine]

he probably got re-signed b4 kdg came on board

[next mesa]

change of plans middle of the season I bet

[plush grail]

shut up jhong fanboy

[next mesa]

they didn't think they would get kdg

[raw ermine]

I would never, if I was an OWL team, sign/ drop a player before we get a good coach

like toronto did

[burnt marsh]

moth would do shit if he was on shock

he has a diff play style then most of them

[plush grail]

yeah moth is a giga virgin

shock is made up of chad feeders like super

[burnt marsh]

what team is ANS on?

[plush grail]

shock

[burnt marsh]

is he still on shock

ok

[plush grail]

yeah

[burnt marsh]

is sparkle still on paris

[plush grail]

nope

dallas

[burnt marsh]

ok

[plush grail]

most of the old paris left for dallas

[burnt marsh]

is benbest still on paris or dallas

[next mesa]

no team

[plush grail]

last seen in the gauntlet i think

[raw ermine]

he plays for YAB

[smoky violet]

[cobalt spoke]

Moth was literally the best main support when he was on that team

????

Has to be troll

[burnt marsh]

no

theres a reason he left

and hes better on the team hes on

[next mesa]

oop

found a stupid big poopoo brain

[silk frost]

thought benbest was on Dallas, thinks Moth sucks on Shock

[tawdry hamlet]

Rhyno is odyssey main tank in contenders gauntlet 2nd place team and 14 years old

[cobalt spoke]

He left for money

Shock didnt want to pay him that much so he left

It has nothing to do with him being better on another team

????

[burnt marsh]

ok what ever

cool

sparkel is still better

[cobalt spoke]

Than who

?

Moth?

[burnt marsh]

moth

smh

[cobalt spoke]

Why are you comparing a main support player and a flex dps player

[burnt marsh]

bc when sparkle playes support he shits on moth stat wise

[cobalt spoke]

When did sparkle play support?

[burnt marsh]

summer showdown

[barren quest]

[cobalt spoke]

Yea I know

The reason why some players have random really good stats is because they played for like 2 minutes, got a good amount of kills or heals and then left

That doesnt make them a good player

[burnt marsh]

fair point

[cobalt spoke]

Sparkle literally never plays support

He probably just got subbed in to troll or something

[burnt marsh]

true

[barren quest]

We all meme of Chipsa being undefeated by having a 100% winrate but that's only from one game lel

[cobalt spoke]

Exactly

Not even 1 game

1 map

[earnest leaf]

the Korean name is Edison

imagine having to play vs that lmao

[next mesa]

Yikes

That's an all stars team

[silk frost]

only thing I'd do is replace jecse with tobi

[cloud latch]

is that really choi?

[cobalt spoke]

Yea probably

Everybody knows the only shock player that doesnt troll their ranked games is viol2t

And then again

He does sometimes

[sullen berry]

@barren quest well now we need the 100%ers in each season to duke it out: IDDQD, Diya (Subbed for one map on Anubis S2), and Chipsa

[tawdry hamlet]

Rascal said he left in hopes of getting more playtime elsewhere since he became free agent and I am sure other teams offered more

iirc

[sullen berry]

Still waiting for Libero announcement

[balmy wolf]

im pretty sure they got signed somewhere but the teams dont want to announce it yet

[sullen berry]

Wherever he goes doesn't matter to me, but the announcement will be incredibly sweet

Two more days to lock in 7 players

News of who they sign will just have to wait

[balmy wolf]

they dont have to announced they signed someone

the window is getting smaller tho

[karmic grotto]

Soon teams have to have their roster complete

[tough wharf]

no, only 7 playera

not the same

[silk frost]

Justice will have Libero right?

[karmic grotto]

Not sure. Honestly I don't see a reason why

[silk frost]

Libero decay line slaps

And consider how much of an upgrade that is from decay Jerry or decay Ttuba

[karmic grotto]

That's if they have the budget

[silk frost]

I mean the only pricey players they got were probably mag and Fury

I'd expect decay was a reasonable price since he could have the team shaped around him and no chance Ria, Jerry, Closer, Bebe, and Ttuba are expensive

If they really want to win, they should get Libero and maybe tobi

[lost echo]

Alright boys, dream team, 6 players. Go!

All players, all time retired or not, contenders or owl

[cobalt spoke]

Smurf, choihyobin, ans striker, moth viol2t

[lost echo]

congrays, its the shock

[cobalt spoke]

Unsuprisingly

But seroiusly

Smurf, void, diem, fleta moth viol2t

Imo all the best talent the game has to offer right now is right here

[plush grail]

nobody likes the charge

[cedar oasis]

Why is it numbered like that

[feral zodiac]

Apac and Na seperated

How the fuck have people put the charge so low

Also I would put in striker over diem yubo

[forest raven]

Putting diem in over striker

[quartz cairn]

When do they announce the next contenders skins

[karmic grotto]

good question

i need zarya skin

[quartz cairn]

i want for ana

[hot heart]

Super Smurf Void Fleta Striker Moth Alarm Viol2t

That squad wouldn't lose a single match

Honestly I'd take Alarm over viol2t if i had to pick

And smurf over super and fearless just because orisa is meta alot

[next mesa]

Fearless Smurf Void Profit Fits Moth Viol2t

If we really want to have best team for every meta

Replace profit Fits with profit fleta striker diem

And add twilight

[feral zodiac]

between twilight and alarm for me

[vagrant jacinth]

People really don't like charge huh

[feral zodiac]

If that list is accurate, all of apac would be top half of na lmao

Wait where is the list from?

[vagrant jacinth]

I'm not sure tbh

Are London actually moving to na?

[next mesa]

charge is below dragons awk

[next mesa]

seems like it

[vagrant jacinth]

That sucks smh

[next mesa]

y

at least will get some wins against paris and titans

[feral zodiac]

Idk about that

At least toilet bowl will be exciting this year

[vagrant jacinth]

Just hoping games don't be on too late lmao

[feral zodiac]

Boston might actually win a game against a team other than glads

[vagrant jacinth]

That and I wanted a couple more teams in apac

[limber pine]

have they announced officially whom will be where?

[hot heart]

London and Paris will be moving to EU

They'll be playing on ping

But the opposing team will be given artificial ping to even the playing field

[feral zodiac]

That makes it pretty interesting

Do we finally get fielder on good ping

And kevster on good ping

[next mesa]

one day everyone will be able to play at 29 ping 🙏

[limber pine]

I meant whom will be playing in APAC

I know the EU teams will be in EU

[hot heart]

So

As it stands

APAC:
SHD
PHI
GZ
HZ
CDH

[plush grail]

HZ over GZ for sure

[plush light]

Korean quick play lol

[plush grail]

im pretty sure top 500 comp games > contenders na

[wraith vortex]

im in school rn

[feral zodiac]

Bro what happened to nyxl

[plush grail]

they got deleted

did you not see the news

''local overwatch team gets zapped from existence''

[raw ermine]

I think liquipedia is down

rip

[limber pine]

we've seen top 500 vs contenders teams and contenders generally win

[feral zodiac]

Because contenders usually scrim instead of playing ladder

path to poverty

[tough summit]

contender teams are usually top500

[plush grail]

contenders is low gold

[solar bison]

Depends what region

Australian contenders is low gold for sure

China/korean contenders is not

[wanton birch]

man apac is strong

[silk frost]

Who did that power rankings

[wanton birch]

the fact hangzhou is seen as 4th

not sure

[next mesa]

charge above spark

at least

[cedar oasis]

I'm glad we can all agree that Atlanta is bottom 5

[silk frost]

I don't see how anyone can put glads below justice

Fuel sure, I can see how misguided you can be to put fuel below that mega fucking team

But the team with 3 good players?

Nah

[next mesa]

glads do look like the second best team right now in na

def a tier above valiant reign mayhem

[cedar oasis]

If they pick up libero

Then defanitly

[limber pine]

Gladiators have no more excuses, and have their best team on paper to date

anything short of top 2 is a failure

[hot heart]

The glads have the 3rd best or even 2nd best support line in OWL

Shu Moth is fucking cracked

https://twitter.com/HoChiLeeOW/status/1346100826419339266?s=19

HoChiLeeOW (@HoChiLeeOW)

Got an offer for an OWL team. Salary will be set in stone tomorrow meeting. Excited. Mom I've made it.

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Twitter · Jan 4, 2021, 2:27 PM

So

Who is this guy?

[tropic herald]

GroundZero coach

[tawdry hamlet]

could you imagine he gets his offer revoked for tweeting about it early

[tropic herald]

Australia

[tawdry hamlet]

[digital cloud]

would be funny

[raw ermine]

He's the assistant coach. interesting

[hot heart]

Probably goes to like boston vancouver or paris

Possibly even houstan

https://twitter.com/leakmafia_OW/status/1346130829601333248?s=19

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

@benji0562 Trialed for some teams but as far as we know hasn’t landed on a team

Twitter · Jan 4, 2021, 4:26 PM

RJH might've trialed for a couple of teams

Interesting

Didn't expect that really

[next mesa]

pog

kaiser lft too

boomers unite

[hot heart]

So

[cedar oasis]

kaiser is low tier

[hot heart]

Apparently ttuba boomed the likes of rascal and libero

Jesus

[cedar oasis]

nah

[hot heart]

If he can do that

[next mesa]

there's no way

[cedar oasis]

that doesnt sound correct

[next mesa]

nobody booms libero

let alone rascal

[hot heart]

And closer has improved massively

Honestly

[cedar oasis]

ttuba is no longer a genji one trick

[hot heart]

I could see ttuba being a nur

*nut

I could see him being better than libero

Not rascal though

[cedar oasis]

no one is better then libero

not even libero

[cloud latch]

or they were just too expensive

[cedar oasis]

there are so many good flex dps

i think flex dps is the most stacked

[next mesa]

flex support

[cobalt spoke]

He goes to shock

[cedar oasis]

there are more good flex dps then flex support

[next mesa]

how

[cedar oasis]

the top 6 flex dps would destroy the top 6 flex support in a game

[hot heart]

https://twitter.com/Baaz0leakboyceo/status/1346148338169614340?s=19

baaz0 (@Baaz0leakboyceo)

@gengutastic @leakmafia_OW They got wrecked by justice in scrims.

Twitter · Jan 4, 2021, 5:35 PM

[cedar oasis]

who are they

[hot heart]

https://twitter.com/leakmafia_OW/status/1346147070873366535?s=19

leak mafia (@leakmafia_OW)

@gengutastic Not enough info on Defiant. Strong teams include Shanghai, Florida, and the Justice.

Twitter · Jan 4, 2021, 5:30 PM

[hot heart]

Defiant

Dear lord we might be underestimating justice big time

[next mesa]

florida?

[hot heart]

I mean

[cedar oasis]

we knew justice would be top 4 or 3 easily

[hot heart]

Im not very surprised

[grave sail]

ttuba has never been trash

[next mesa]

I wonder who better justice or fuel

[grave sail]

hes always been nuts

[hot heart]

Probably justice by the sounds of things

But

[grave sail]

i can see him being a top 3 fdps next season

[hot heart]

Wouldn't be surprised if dallas pulls out some monstrous play

Oh and

[cedar oasis]

wasent he only good on genji

[hot heart]

Dallas havent started scrims as of now

[grave sail]

he was good on genji doom pharah hanzo mei during regular season and tracer/sombra during playoffs

and his echo fucks now

ttuba mvp 2021

[cedar oasis]

i am pretty sure he was a lower mid tier dps last season

[wanton birch]

Seemingly GaeBullSsi is locked for glads as well 👀

[grave sail]

he was on justice

and had zero resources

he was just forced onto hitscan which he wasnt that good on

[primal minnow]

Ttuba was improving quite a bit throughout the season and when he got resources given to him when genji was meta he was quite good

[wanton birch]

tbh its looking like dallas is 4th in na at the moment

[raw ermine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDdTsCV7Eb0

[vivid dawn]

I might even say 5th

Behind shock justice glads and Atlanta

Or maybe even Florida

[earnest leaf]

I mean justice has a solid core

Fury/mag/decay

No roar so no losses ez

[karmic grotto]

ez clap

[next mesa]

did u just

say atlanta

ok-

[karmic grotto]

Well Atlanta is not bad

You never know

[next mesa]

pelican

only hope

[cedar oasis]

atlanta is trash